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Thursday, July 24th, 2025 Today, Judge Xinis bars ICE from detaining Mr. Abrego in Tennessee and Judge Crenshaw orders Mr. Abrego’s release on bond; The Wall Street Journal drops another bombshell reporting that Pam Bondi told Trump he was in the Epstein files two months ago; a DoD watchdog reports that Kegseth’s Signal chat messages came from an email marked classified; 140 members of the National Science Foundation have penned a letter of dissent amid fear of retaliation; Louisville Kentucky is changing its jail policy to get off the “sanctuary city list”; The Pentagon withdraws the Marines from Los Angeles; California’s Department of Motor Vehicles is seeking to ban Tesla from selling cars in the state because of how it presented automated driving; and Allison delivers the good news.
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Allison Gill
MSW Media hello and welcome to the Daily beans for Thursday, July 24, 2025. Today, Judge Sinis bars ice from detaining M. Abrego in Tennessee, and Judge Crenshaw orders Mr. Abrego's release on bond. The Wall Street Journal drops another bombshell, reporting that Pam Bondi told Trump he was in the Epstein files two months ago. A Department of Defense watchdog reports that Kegseth's signal chat messages came from an email marked classified. 140 members of the National Science foundation have penned a letter of dissent amid fear of retaliation. Louisville, Kentucky, is changing its jail policy to get off the sanctuary city list. The Pentagon is withdrawing the Marines from Los Angeles. And California's Department of Motor Vehicles is seeking to ban Tesla from selling cars in the state because of how it presented automated driving. I'm Allison Gill.
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Dana Goldberg
And I'm Dana Goldberg.
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Allison Gill
See, everybody? I promised Dana would be back, and she's back.
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Dana Goldberg
I am back. Thanks for covering me yesterday. Just a reminder, just a little vulnerability for all of you out there who are of age, please get your colonoscopy. I have two dear friends. I've lost one. The other one is still fighting the battle. It's not the most fun experience, but it's necessary. So please, if you are of age or you've got things going on with your body that you don't recognize, take yourself to the doctor. That's all.
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Allison Gill
Yes. Yes. So if you know where our ad bumper after these messages, we'll be right back. If you know that jingle, go get your colonoscopy.
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Dana Goldberg
There you go. Absolutely. If you know where that originated, it is time. If you know any of Allison's pop culture references, it is time to get your colonoscopy 100%.
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Allison Gill
So we got a great show for you today. Later in the show, I'm going to be talking to the executive director of Swing Left, Yasmin Raji.
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Dana Goldberg
Nice.
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Allison Gill
And you're going to want to hear that because Daily Beans listeners, you are record holders in something. You have set a record just by existing. And I want you to hear about it. Yasmin Raji's going to tell us about it.
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Dana Goldberg
Fine.
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Allison Gill
I know. Also, I have an interview that I just did with Adam Klassfeld, Substack Live. You can watch it for free on my substack@muellershiroad.com. it's about what Judge Senior and Judge Crenshaw did today. So, Dana, this was a one, two thing. I thought these judges might be working together in the Abrego case. Right. Because Abrego has a civil case and a criminal case. Civil case is in Maryland with Judge Sinis. His criminal case is in Tennessee with Judge Crenshaw. And see, like the Department of Justice has said, if he gets out on bail on his criminal charges, his bogus criminal charges, ICE could come in and swoop him up and send him to a third country without any due process. And because we're allowed to do that, and apparently we can't stop ourselves from doing that, even though the Department of Justice wants him to go to trial for these two crimes in Tennessee. So what Judge Cenis did was, after a hearing that happened a couple weeks ago, she ordered that ice, if they're going to detain him, if he's released on bail, if they're. And ICE detains him, they have to give 72 hour notice before they deport him to a third country so that he has adequate notice so he can, you know, get due process and oppose that. And also he can't be detained in Tennessee because then he'll just be floated to Louisiana or Texas and then on a plane to God knows where. And so she came out with that ruling and then like a minute later, Judge Crenshaw came out with his ruling that he gets to be released on bail.
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Dana Goldberg
So I love that I seem like they're working in tandem.
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Allison Gill
Yeah, I think he was waiting when Judge Sinise's order came out, protecting him, giving him due process from ice. And so. So that went down. And then in a completely separate case, just bizarre timing, Virginia Giuffre's case to release some of her civil case discovery and testimony and depositions. This is posthumous, a posthumous win for her because she died by suicide earlier this year. But the 2nd Circuit has said, yes, we are for transparency and has sent this back down to the lower court to work it out. So we may actually get to see some of the Epstein files, just in a completely unrelated case that just happened to come out today.
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Dana Goldberg
That's amazing. Yeah.
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Allison Gill
Now, it's a long, protracted process. We'll see what happens. But that also happened today.
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Dana Goldberg
All right. And also, federal judge down in Florida denied Trump's request to release Epstein grand jury material. By the way, there is still a motion in New York that has different rules now, so we're going to see what happens there. But the New York judge has denied Gaylene Maxwell's request to review the grand jury material. I basically told her lawyer he wants her views and if he wanted them, he'll ask for them, which is really interesting. And I know that they're also. In order to make that happen, the judges have said, we want Galene Maxwell's reason for doing this, but we also want to know how the victims feel about the grand jury material being released. So that would be interesting there.
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Allison Gill
Those are the two New York judges now, because Florida said, we're not releasing it. New York was like, you didn't even try Ham Bondi to do this. Right. Which just kind of goes to our argument, Dana, that it's bullshit. They know that. They want the court to say no.
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Dana Goldberg
Absolutely they did. And they're both. Because they want to come and be like, we tried. We tried the courts. And courts said no. And it was, you know, a liberal justice room. New York City said no. But speaking of justices, and this should surprise no one, the supreme court in a 6:3 shadow docket ruling is actually allowing Trump to fire members of the Consumer Product Safety Commission. Seems kind of like they're important, I don't know, you know, protecting consumers.
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Allison Gill
Fuck your safety.
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Dana Goldberg
I literally just did a gala and I know you read one of the lawyers good news submissions yesterday, who's amazing, by the way, if you're listening, it was so nice to meet you. But it's for public justice. And they've been working on cases for 27 years, some consumer cases, bottled water cases, environment cases that are hurting consumers and have been fighting this. And these assholes want to get rid of the members of the Consumer Product Safety Commission that really do protect us from stuff like this. It's just mind blowing.
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Allison Gill
Yeah, well, they see, they want the companies to be able to murder us and make money off of it. That's what it boils down to.
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Dana Goldberg
It keeps us sick. It keeps us sick. A lot of people get lots of money from keeping us sick. Yeah.
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Allison Gill
And we're going to talk about how sometimes California doesn't stand for that at the state level. And so that's why our DMV is opposing this Tesla cars. That's going be interesting to see how that rolls out.
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Dana Goldberg
Oh, my God. The Tesla Cafe opened up, I think, in West Hollywood. That's how you know where all the douchebags are now. They are all. It's literally there's a parking lot for all the dumpster trucks to go charge. And what's crazy is it's sort of this drive in movie thing where they put up two giant movie screens that are now blocking the views of apartment buildings that bought apart, like renting apartments and maybe even bought apartments because of the view. And Elon blocked them. And I Don't know how the city approved this. It, it's, it's mind blowing. But since you brought up the, the ketamine. The ketamine kitten. I don't even know what to call him. But yeah.
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Allison Gill
Tesla Cafe. Oh, my God.
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Dana Goldberg
Just stop. Just stop. Just gross. Gross. Enjoy your coffee.
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Allison Gill
Enjoy your coffee. All right, everybody, we have a lot of news to get to. Let's hit the hot notes. Hot notes. All right, first up, as you know, about four days ago, I put out a story where sources had told me that Trump is not only in the Epstein files, but that they tracked the mentions of him in a master spreadsheet. Well, today the Wall Street Journal confirms that Trump is in the Epstein files. And remember when I said that Wall Street Journal probably has more and it's going to drip out 100%. Yeah. Well, here's what they released. On Wednesday, when Justice Department officials reviewed what Attorney General Pam Bondi called a truckload of documents related to Jeffrey Epstein earlier this year, they discovered that Donald Trump's name appeared multiple times. That's according to administration officials. In May. In May, Dana Bondi and her deputy informed the president at a meeting in the White House that his name was in the Epstein files. Many other high profile figures were also named. Trump was told being mentioned in the records is not a sign of wrongdoing. The Wall Street Journal just puts that out there. They told the president at the meeting that the files contained what officials felt was unverified hearsay about a lot of people, including Donald Trump, who had socialized with Epstein in the past. Now, one of the officials familiar with the documents said they contain hundreds of other names. They also told Trump that senior Justice Department officials didn't plan to release any more of the documents related to the investigation of the convicted sex offender. So they made this decision in May because the material contained child pornography and victim's personal information. Now, Trump said at the meeting he would defer to the Justice Department's decision to not release any files. The administration didn't publicly announce the decision until weeks later, on July 7, when the Justice Department posted a memo quietly on its website after a holiday weekend. FBI Director Kash Patel has privately told other government officials that Trump appears in the files as well. That's according to people close to the administration. And Dana, Politico reports President Donald Trump is angry. His team is exasperated. The Republican controlled house is near rebellion. Quote, POTUS is clearly furious. That's what a person close to the White House said. It's the first time I've seen Them sort of paralyzed. A senior White House official told Politico the President is frustrated with his staff's inability to tamp down conspiracy theories they once spread. And by the wall of media coverage that started when Pam Bondi released information from the Epstein case that was already in the public domain. Phase one, quote, he feels there are way bigger stories that deserve attention. Of course he does what the senior White House official said. So that's interesting. He's real mad. He's big mad that we're still talking about it.
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah, I think there's two interesting things here, because he's. I don't. I don't know anything about the files. I'm not in the files. I don't know, blah, blah, blah. And then the Wall Street Journal just puts this thing out that says, well, you were in the files. There's this weird drip, drip, drip, like you said, happening, and there's gonna be a dam breaking somewhere. We know there's something big happening. Alison and I have been trying to figure out what it is. We're gonna stay on this and let you know. But the other thing, this whole bullshit about Bondi not releasing more of the evidence, I just. And there's a trigger warning here. I need people to understand that. There are child pornography pictures in this file that have the victims, but they also have the Johns in the photos with them. Epstein kept blackmail on the victim so they would not go to the police, as well as his client list so they would not go to the police. And for Pam Bondi to say, I'm protecting the victims, that why we're not releasing them, I call bullshit. I think she is protecting the Johns because if she cared about the victims, there's a lot of them are still here that are willing to testify as adults on what happened to them. And if you cared about the victims, you would call them in front of Congress, period. The end. Instead of Galene Maxwell. Who gives a shit what she has to say? She's not the victim and she's not going to tell the truth in this. She's a liar and she's a victim in another way. So please don't let me say that. However, when it comes to this situation, let's hear from the people that were actually abused by Jeffrey and all of these other Johns.
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Allison Gill
Yeah, I agree 100%. And there. And there's ways to. You know, that's what a lot of the FBI analysts I spoke to objected to, was the fact that they didn't want to get these survivors names and information and photos out there. So, yeah. And when Pam Bondi filed in Florida and New York to release the grand jury transcripts, didn't tell the victims that they were doing this. And that's why the judges are now demanding to hear from the victims. The judges in New York, that the Southern District of Florida judge said, no, I'm not releasing anything. But the New York judges are, like, you didn't even bother to say anything about the victims here. Have you contacted them? No, I don't see anything. No. No due diligence here whatsoever to protect the victims. So bullshit on that. Yep.
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Dana Goldberg
All right, I'll keep going. This one's from the Post. The Pentagon's independent watchdog has received evidence that the messages from the Defense Secretary's Pete Kegset's signal account previewing a US Bombing campaign in Yemen derived from a classified email labeled, and I quote, secret, no foreign. Okay. People familiar with this matter. That's what they said. The revelation appeared to contradict longstanding claims by the Trump administration that no classified information was divulged in unclassified group chats that critics have called a significant security breach. The messages about the bombing campaign posted in at least two group chats using the unclassified messaging app Signal are the focus of an inquiry by the Defense Department Inspector General's office requested in April by the Republican and Democratic members of the Senate Armed Services Committee. They actually care about whether our country is being protected by this jackass. Now, the strike plans had been shared in a classified email with more than a dozen defense officials by General Michael Eric Kurilla. This is the top commander overseeing U.S. military operations in the Middle East. And then they were posted in the unclassified group chats by an account affiliated with Kegsep on March 15th. That's shortly before the United States began the attack on the Houthi militants. The secret classification of Korilla's email, which has not previously been reported, denoted that the information was classified at a level at which unauthorized disclosure could be expected to cause serious damage to national security. The quote, no foreign label means it's also was not meant for anyone who is a foreign national, including senior officials of close allies of the United States. So the fact that this person in any other situation in the military would probably be charged. Would they be court martialed? I feel like there's something big that would happen to something like this.
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Allison Gill
They'd probably be criminally charged and court martialed. Yeah.
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Dana Goldberg
But this guy. Nope. Gets to keep on going.
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Allison Gill
Yeah. That's fantastic. Wonderful. So it's as we thought, it's clear classified. And now the inspector general of the Department of Defense has confirmed that.
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah.
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Allison Gill
All right, next up from the times, more than 140 employees of the National Science foundation have signed a letter denouncing what they describe as efforts to undermine one of the country's main science funding agencies. They accuse the Trump administration of abruptly firing workers, withholding funds and decimating the agency's budget out of fear of retaliation. All but one of the employees signatures are redacted. The letter, addressed on Monday to Representative Zoe Lofgren, the senior Democrat on the House Committee on Science, Space and Technology, petitioned it to define the mission of the National Science foundation and its employees. The NSF declined to comment on the letter. The formal protests by NSF employees followed similar ones made last month by National Institutes of Health and the Environmental Protection Agency, who criticized orders that they saw as unlawful and accused the Trump administration of endangering public health. The EPA suspended 144 of the signatories a few days after the letter was sent, a step that has been described by some as retaliation that should read a step that should be understood by all as retaliation. In a news conference Tuesday, Representative Lofgren said the letter was submitted to her office as a whistleblower complaint. In a statement thanking the signers, she added, I promise to do all I can to protect you, protect your agency, and protect our scientific enterprise.
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Dana Goldberg
Thanks so much, Alison. And in better news, thank goodness from the Post, state regulators argued Monday that Elon Musk's Tesla should lose its license to sell vehicles in California as the automaker fights allegations in courtrooms on both sides of the country that it dangerously misled drivers to believe its cars could drive themselves without human oversight. And I quote, tesla has been misleading consumers for years. This is from Christopher Beatty. He's a supervising deputy attorney general for California and he represents the state's Department of Motor Vehicles. In an opening statement at administrative court hearing in Oakland on Monday, that's what he said. The company's marketing materials for its Autopilot and full self driving features, quote, imply that its cars operate autonomously, which they don't. This is what Beatty added. Similar allegations were made in a Florida federal court last week by attorneys for the victims of a fatal 2019 crash in which an inattentive driver using Autopilot ran through an intersection and struck a young couple. The jury in that case will have the option of considering punitive damages against the company for the alleged failings of Autopilot and how it has been presented to the customers. Melanie Rosario is a commander sergeant with the dmv, testified in court Monday that Tesla's branding of its autopilot and full self driving capabilities, it was misleading and contradictory because she said those terms imply a vehicle can drive itself. Now, Rosario said she based her findings on review of Tesla advertising, emails, screenshots of the company's website, complaints from Tesla owners to the dmv, and her own understanding of what the terms autopilot and self driving actually mean. She also cited a state law that took effect in 2023 that bars vehicle makers or dealers from deceptively naming or marketing any feature that allows partial driving automation. Rosario said Tesla nonetheless continued to market its autopilot and self driving features, arguing that, and I quote, these terms should not be used. This case looks really bad for Musk's company. I have a feeling if they don't go to court, because I don't think they'd want to, there's going to be a massive settlement.
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Allison Gill
Yeah, we'll see what happens here. But it's interesting that, you know, she was testifying in that case. So, you know, it's, we're already in a courtroom so far as taking the cars off the market in the state goes. But as far as the people who like individual cases, you know, I have to assume that if, if the judge finds in favor of California here, that there we will see more cases about assume you're autopilot and self driving cars.
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Dana Goldberg
Set precedent, they're going to take it and go.
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Allison Gill
All right. From WLKY in Louisville. Louisville's changing policy to drop its sanctuary city status after threats from the Department of Justice. A sanctuary city in quotes, here is a municipality that limits its cooperation with federal immigration authorities, often to protect undocumented immigrants from deportation. In late May, the Department of Homeland Security put out a list of more than 500 cities it deemed sanctuary jurisdictions and the Trump administration viewed them as obstructing immigration enforcement. Louisville was on that list. While Louisville has not previously been considered a sanctuary city, in 2017, the metro did adopt a policy stating police would not accept requests from Immigration Customs Enforcement ICE to enforce federal laws and that it has remained in effect. Mayor Craig Greenberg said Louisville was put on the recent federal list for not holding inmates in custody at its jail for up to 48 hours on immigration detainers. On Tuesday, Greenberg announced the city will change its procedures on holding immigrants and it will start honoring the 48 hour federal detainers as soon as is practical. So they're changing their rules so that they don't have sanctuary city status.
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Dana Goldberg
My God. All right, thanks, Allison. This one's from the Associated Press. The Pentagon ordered the U.S. marines to leave Los Angeles on Monday, more than a month. God, it's been a month. After President Trump deployed them to the city against the objections of local leaders. The 700 Marines were deployed June 9, on the fourth day of protests in downtown LA over the administration's crackdown on immigration. Four thousand National Guard soldiers were also deployed. Their presence in the city it's been limited to two locations with federal buildings in Los Angeles, including the U.S. immigration and Customs Enforcement office and the detention facility downtown. So they're not just wall over Los Angeles like some people would expect you to believe. During their deployment outside a federal complex in west la, the Marines temporarily detained a man who said he was rushing to get to a Veterans affairs appointment. The decision to pull back the Marines comes after half of the National Guard troops were ordered to leave the city last week. The rest, by the way, they still remain here. Mayor Karen Bass held a press conference Monday morning ahead of the announcement with several leaders of the veteran groups who raised concerns about the deployment of military troops on domestic soil. They called for the remainder of the troops to be withdrawn from Los Angeles. And I quote, this is another win for Los Angeles, but this is also a win for those serving this country in uniform. That's what Bass said in a statement. Los Angeles stands with our troops, which is why we are glad they are leaving.
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Allison Gill
We love you. Get the fuck out.
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Dana Goldberg
I know.
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Allison Gill
And many of the National Guard troops, at least. I don't know if I've seen any talk about the Marines, but I assume it has to be the same. We're like, why are we even here? This is not what we're here for. This is not why we are in the military. So, anyway, I'm glad they're leaving. I consider this a cave by this Trump administration. This Pentagon is just so. Kegseth is a national security threat just all the way around. All right, everybody. Your good trouble will be in the good news today, which we will get to after my interview with the executive director of Swing Left. And you don't want to miss it because she announces that you, the Leguminati, the beans listeners hold a record, so stick around. We'll be right back after these messages. We'll be right back. Hey, everybody. This podcast is sponsored by Peak Life. Let's be real. Sleep doesn't always come easy, especially these days. Sometimes, no matter how much you need sleep, it doesn't happen. I've had those nights where I'm staring at the ceiling, my mind is racing, it won't calm down. And before you know it, the alarm goes off and I feel like I never even went to bed. That cycle changed for me with Peaks Re Fountain Electrolyte. All it takes is one sachet mixed into water before bed. I feel my body settle, my mind stops racing. It's like everything quiets down naturally and I wake up feeling completely rested, like my system got a chance to reboot. Now what sets it apart is Peak's triple biomaxed Magnesium. It's all about the magnesium. Three ultra absorbable forms of magnesium, glycanate, taurate and L Threonate. And these are designed to work with your body, especially your brain and your nervous system. You don't just read the label, you feel the difference. And Peak keeps it clean. No sugar, no synthetic flavors, no hidden fillers, just pink Himalayan salt, organic lemon juice and lemongrass. It is a crisp, delicious flavor I look forward to each night. And after just a few days, I felt calmer, clearer, and more in control. It wasn't just sleeping better, I was functioning better. Because you need sleep to do that. So if you've been looking for something to support deeper rest and better recovery, this is it. And there's something just for you. Peak is offering 10% off. For life. Yes, for life. Just for being a listener of the beans. They're even backing it with a 90 day money back guarantee so there's no risk. Head to peaklife.com dailybeans to try re fountain. Now that's Peak life. P I q u e peaklife.com dailybeans because better sleep isn't a luxury, it's a necessity. And you deserve to wake up clear, calm and ready to take on your day. Hey everybody, welcome back. So for a really long time, listeners of this podcast and listeners of MSW media podcasts have been fundraising for Democratic candidates based on great data models provided by Swing Left. And joining us today to discuss a new initiative. It's a multimillion dollar initiative called Ground Truth is the executive director of Swing Left. Please welcome Yasmin Raji. Hi, Yasmin. How are you?
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Yasmin Raji
Hi. I'm doing well. Thank you so much for having me on.
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Allison Gill
It is really good to see you and I'm so excited about this. First of all, thank you so much for partnering with us for so long to fundraise to win elections because it's been truly inspiring. I think. I think Swing Left having the data models that it uses to make sure. That every single dollar donated goes exactly where it needs to go to do things like flip the Senate, flip the House, et cetera. So just, first of all, thank you so much for all the work that you do at Swing Left.
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Yasmin Raji
Well, the thanks goes both to you and also to the listeners of this program. I was just mentioning to Allison before we got started. I think you all still hold the record as the single largest grassroots contributing force to Swing Left candidates, which is, I think, a testament to just how much the listeners of your program are not just consumers of news, but people who really take seriously the stakes of what they are learning from you and from your guests and turn that into action. So just, just tremendous gratitude and also gratitude that your listeners continue being as action oriented as they are. Because we've got a steep hill to climb and then we're good.
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Allison Gill
Yes, Sisyphus, our rock just got bigger, Our hill just got steeper, and we're continuing to push it up the hill. But that is amazing. Congratulations to all the listeners of the Daily Beans single largest contributing grassroots group. And that's, that's just amazing. Congratulations to everybody. And, and all of you know, so many victories and so many wonderful initiatives are because of y'. All. So let's talk about your latest initiative. It's a multimillion dollar initiative called Ground Truth. And its aim is to fix Democrats broken voter engagement ahead of the midterms in 2026. So talk about that.
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Yasmin Raji
Yeah, you know what? Ever since Swing Left was founded in 2017, what we have been is essentially a front door for people who, as we've been talking about, want to donate, want to volunteer with the goal of winning Democratic majorities. And that has worked really well, but it has also relied on existing Democratic infrastructure. And along the journey we've been on together, we have known that there have been some broken pieces of the foundation that we have been standing on, namely that a lot of the ways that we do voter contact, not just in 2024, but really for the past decade or so, starts that voter contact starts way too late. The conversations that we have with voters are way too superficial and way too surface level. And we are also standing on really broken data. And by that I mean anyone who's listening who's ever participated in a door to door canvas. We know that we often skip a lot of doors because we are trying to communicate with Democratic base voters or with persuadable voters. And oftentimes we are told we are talking to a certain set of people. And then the conversations we have are Wildly different. So many people experience the Saturday before an election going to talk to somebody who all they're supposed to do is convince that person to turn out, and that person is really angry at the Democratic Party or is totally undecided. And so what all of those things mean is that the efficiency and the effectiveness of our efforts, whether we are knocking on people's doors, whether we are talking to our friends, you know, in a sort of more relational voter contact way, whether we're calling people or texting people, we are standing on shaky ground. And so what Swing Left is doing, given the urgency of this moment, is we are no longer going to be standing on that shaky ground. We are starting now, meaning starting in early September, going to be talking to voters earlier than campaigns ever do. Most campaigns won't even have a field team, won't even have an organizing director, won't have the ability to go start knocking on doors. And some campaigns won't even exist yet because it'll still be a Democratic primary. We're going to start that work. And the way that we are going to structure those conversations are based off of the industry best practices of what's called deep canvassing. A really deeper, more curious conversations that are like 10 to 12 minutes long rather than 1 to 2 minutes long. And the goal of all of that is not just that we are dorks who do the research of what is really effective, although we also are that. But also, I don't think it's. It's a takes a rocket scientist to figure out that the Democratic brand has a real trust deficit. And our analysis, which is shared by anybody, I think, who's paying attention, is that part of our trust deficit is that we are doing way too much lecturing and not enough listening. And so if we really want to be committed to that deeper listening and to really meeting the needs of voters, we can't just do that in a vacuum. We've got to rebuild the data infrastructure, the campaign infrastructure. And the great gift that was handed to us during the 2024 cycle that didn't really kind of break news is that there was a big shift in federal elections law. And that shift means we can do all of this, and we can do it in a way where we hand over the information of what we learn from voters when they say, I'm really worried about the economy, I just had a kid, I don't know how I'm going to be able to afford diapers. We don't just sort of sit on that information. We can hand that information over to the Democratic nominee in that district to make their campaign, their messaging, their outreach that much stronger and informed by the ground Truth. That's the name of the program of what voters are saying and worried about that no campaign really is going to have the bandwidth to do on their own. And they rely on volunteers helping them to get the fingers on the pulse of their local communities.
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Allison Gill
Yeah, I love that. Like, tell us to tell us what you need and we'll fit the campaigns to your needs. What does this look like pre primary? Because this is interesting. You know, a lot of times we raise money for whomever wins the primary. That's right. And here on the Daily Beans, we tend to stay out of primary elections unless we have every single Democrat across that's running to come on and talk about their platforms so everybody can be prepped to vote for the candidate they want to be represented by. And also the DNC this cycle is staying out of the primaries. That was a very big concern for them, just so that they can come in and throw their support behind whomever the people select. So on the ground, what does it look like pre primary, do you say, to support our slate of candidates or whomever ends up, whoever ends up being chosen, or like, what does it like practically look like on the ground with grassroots canvassing?
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Yasmin Raji
Really great question. Zooming out for a second. Just in kind of the landscape that we are, that we're looking at. Our earlier campaign is called Three to win because there are only three races that we need to win. Three Republicans that we need to defeat to win back a House majority. And I'm starting there because I think we're in a moment where we were, we're facing so much overwhelm of there is so much bad stuff happening every single day that we have sort of, we've begun to drink the sort of Kool Aid of the Trump campaign who's told us that they've won with a big mandate, that the country is, you know, whatever. Like, we know in our brains that that is not true. But in our bodies, we've sort of started to be like, man, like, how steep is the hill that we've got to climb? There's only three seats that we need to flip, and that is 7,000, 309 votes. That is a rounding error. We can do that. And so we're starting there. Of course, our goal is not just to get a razor thin House majority. We need to win an aggressive House majority. Not just because we need to be able to have control over a branch of government to actually have the ability to have a material check on Donald Trump, but because winning with a rounding error in the environment that we are in with people who are not surviving their terms in Congress, and the unexpected things that inevitably happen is just not the way when we are standing at the door of autocracy. So starting there now, what does that mean? In some of the seats that we're targeting, and we're starting with 15 districts that the Republican either won by 3 percentage points or less, meaning very, very, very close margins, or if they won the district by a little bit more than three, maybe they won by five or six points. It's a district that Kamala Harris won, meaning these are districts that Democrats can win in. We just saw that happen. But they're people who voted for Kamala Harris and then voted for the Republican because they mistakenly believe that the Republican is a moderate. So among those districts, there are some places where there's only one candidate. So we're going to support that candidate. We're going to start talking to voters about that person. A lot of those districts both have a competitive primary happening, and we share your belief. We stay out of primaries. We just need to defeat MAGA extremism and whoever is going to be our ticket to that we are happy with. But we also have an extra challenge, which is in states like New York, states like Arizona, states like Michigan, you have really, really late primaries. So what does that mean is by the time we know who the Democrat is that we're supporting, it's Labor Day of 2026. That means you've got September, October, and a couple days in November to talk to all of the swing voters that nobody has been talking to. Because in the primary, to state the obvious, you're just talking to the Democratic base. You're not talking to any independents. You're not talking to any squishy Republicans. And so what it looks like for us is In September of 2025, we are going to be talking not just to Democratic base voters, we are also going to be talking to the independent voters, the squishy Democratic voters, the squishy Republican voters, the people who have real concerns and have a real trust deficit with the Democratic Party or who might just have no idea, like, who even is, like the Republican who's representing my district. What do they stand for? Right? And so to us, those conversations have to start. And it doesn't really matter who the Democrat is, because so much of the work that we have to do is for people who are not paying attention to politics, which is the overwhelming majority of Americans. There are very few people as dorky as we are at Swing left who pay attention to every detail of politics. And I hope many of your listeners have that honor of being political nerds like we are. But most people are not paying attention. And so they are finding out about how profoundly extreme their Republican member of Congress is when they realize that their Medicaid is cut or in a lot of cases, they're going to find out about it in 2029 when a lot of the really horrible effects of what Doge and what this administration have done go into effect because they know there's got to be a lag time. So anyway, that's what we're going to be talking to voters about starting now.
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Allison Gill
Okay, I love that question also when you're canvassing and something I come across, and I know our listeners come across this when they talk to people about voting, is we hear the constant refrain of that's nice that you think that there are going to be free and fair elections in 2026.
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Yasmin Raji
That's right.
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Allison Gill
Now my pushback has always been we're having free and fair elections right now. Look at Wisconsin, look at Florida 1 and Florida 6. We lost those, but we made up like 20, 30 points. And you know, we like really closed the gap. Iowa is another great example. Nebraska, San Antonio, Mayor. We can look at Mamdani in New York. We see people, grassroots people on the ground getting things done now. And so that's one argument I use. And a lot of people are worried about possible gerrymandering and redistricting in Texas, for example, doing a mid decade census or whatever. And now California's like, oh, we'll do the same thing. I dare, you know, dare you, whatever. And so there's all this back and forth. But I think people, whether it's right or wrong to believe it, are concerned about the, the election process going forward. So what are your sort of objections to, to that, you know, part of the sale. So I'm, I'm sorry, sales. I did sales forever. So yes, yes, it's always be closing.
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Yasmin Raji
Look, I, I think that if we take seriously what we as a party have been saying for now several years, which is that not just Project 2025, but the agenda and the plans of the MAGA movement are to tear down our democracy. We keep on saying that and I think we believe it, but sometimes I wonder, right, I believe that. Then I think that those, those concerns that in a different political moment would sound kind of paranoid and a little out there. I think those are very serious. Right. And so I share with you, we continue to have free and fair elections. But I don't think that we should be naive to think that Donald Trump and the Republican Party are going to play by the rules because they have told us what they're going to do and everything that they are doing is directly in line with what they have said in their own documents they're going to be doing. So if we take seriously both what I think we really should take seriously, which is that we are standing at the front door of Autocracy and the stakes, it's not just that they've never been greater, it's that we have never been in a moment like this before, then it is kind of cuckoo bananas to then say, you know, let's just keep going on and going on. In one click we can stop Trump, sign this petition and it's all going to be solved. Right. We have to act differently. And that means that part of why we are thinking more ambitiously than we ever have at Swing Left is what volunteers are hungry for and what we hear from them all the time is that they want to sink their teeth into something that meets this moment. And that includes if we think that there is any threat to Donald Trump believing the results of the election, if they don't go in his favor in 2028 or running again for a third term in 2028, which I think is also a real threat, then we can't just be winning by one seat in 2026. We can't be winning again like the Republicans won from by 7,309 votes. If that is the margin that we win by and we take seriously what the MAGA movement is saying, then we are in real trouble. If we win a 20 seat majority, if we win full throatedly, then we are going to, I'm not saying that doesn't, there's no threats in 2028, but it is going to be a much harder sort of fight there. Particularly because as we all know, states remain in control of election integrity and that will remain the case as long as we keep actually showing up and fighting back against this agenda.
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Allison Gill
Yeah, that's the other, that's, that's my other argument, my back pocket argument that I don't really pull out. I'm like, even if only the blue states vote, we can still flip the House pretty considerably. And, and let's be honest, Republicans have been suppressing the vote forever. This isn't new. They just have a lot more guardrails out of the way to do it. So finally, before I let you go, what sort of best practices are you employing from the campaigns? For example, the Wisconsin Supreme Court, not just this one, but 2023, what we did down in Florida, even though we didn't win Iowa, Mamdani, et cetera. What sort of best practice? I mean, I'm assuming there's a best practices sort of Folder on the SharePoint that everybody's sort of dipping into. But I think that, you know, regardless of whether you support Mamdani, for example, or not, what he's been able to do on the ground is, I think, a great blueprint to be followed.
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Yasmin Raji
Absolutely. A couple things. One is what every winning campaign recently has in common is an ability to in some way speak to the immediate needs that people have. And that is core to our program. That ground truth, both in doing that deep listening and also when people say, I'm really worried, I can't afford diapers for my newborn, we are going to follow up with them and try to make sure that they can get access to free or affordable diapers. Right. And so there, I think that is something that we're seeing more and more campaigns experiment with. But even if they're not doing that kind of immediate material support, any campaign that is disappointed, dismissive of what voters are saying their real concerns are, is not a campaign maybe they can win because of the demographics of a particular district that is not going to be a winning campaign for the long haul. And I think what we also have observed is the races that you just outlined really span the ideological spectrum. Right. We're talking about a nonpartisan race with a liberal leaning Supreme Court justice in Wisconsin. You're talking about a really, really progressive left race in Mamdani. I think if you do the Venn diagram of where those candidates, how they talk about the issues, where they are and some of the specific issues. There's overlap, of course, but it's not that overwhelming.
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Allison Gill
Right. Or like Florida1 or Florida6. Those platforms are very different for the Democrats than they were in New York City.
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Yasmin Raji
That's right. And I think, again, this is not an original framing by me, but it's one that we really believe in at swing Left, which is that the real divide in the Democratic Party right now is not a progressive centrist divide. It is one between the people who are demonstrating fight and the ones who are trying to sort of tweak things on the edges. And I think more and more what we and we're seeing this in the conversations with every single one of Our frontline candidates. Our frontline candidates feel the urgency of meeting people's material needs and demonstrating not just that they hear them, but that they are going to be with them in the fight forward. And that is, of course, related to economic issues and economic well being. But it's more than that in some issues in the California Central Valley, if you don't understand the urgency of water issues, you know, who cares how good your messaging is on. On. On plenty of other issues.
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Allison Gill
Yeah. Just like super progressive Bernie Sanders listens to his voters in Vermont who are mostly gun owners.
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Yasmin Raji
That's exactly right. And I think what is really essential for us to win moving forward as a Democratic Party is that we've got. We've not just got to be listening to people. We have to remember that voters are human beings and human beings are idiosyncratic. We are not developed in test tubes. And I think what one of our super volunteers out in California has said is that going out and doing voter contact face to face has made her much more patriotic because it has allowed her to see the idiosyncrasies of voters, which are human idiosyncrasies. It has deepened her curiosity and it has taken her out of flattening voters into, all right, this demographic is moving away from us, and this demographic is moving toward us and into humans who have weird opinions that are often in conflict with one another. And very few humans neatly fit into every single aspect of partisan framing. And the more that we understand that, first of all, the more we're going to elect candidates that reflect their districts and are going to be a little bit different depending on the flavor of those districts. But also, almost every issue in the Democratic agenda is a majoritarian issue. So the voters are on our side, but because of our trust deficit and because we don't sort of like openly demonstrate that we know that people may not agree with us on every single aspect of the details of framing. They can't hear us on the louder message, which is we're actually on their side and we're fighting for them on pretty much every issue that they care about.
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Allison Gill
Yeah. And that's true across the political spectrum. We aren't just fighting for health care for Democrats. We're fighting for health care for every single person in the United States. Thank you so much for joining us. Would you tell everybody where they can find support and follow you and swing left and get more information on Ground Truth? Because I think that this is an exceptional voter engagement initiative.
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Yasmin Raji
Thank you so much, Allison. And thank you to all your listeners for all they do. We would love for them to join us@swingingLeft.org there they can both read more about Ground Truth, see our initial slate of house targets, and also sign up to be the first to find out how they can join a canvas near them when we officially launch this fall.
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Allison Gill
Awesome. Thank you so much. It's been wonderful to talk to you and I hope we have you back on as we at least a few times before we get, you know, get down to it in 2026.
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Yasmin Raji
Yes, we. I'm thrilled to join anytime, any place. This community is so aligned with us and we are here to win together. So thank you.
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Allison Gill
Thanks Executive Director. Swing left. Yasmin Raji, everybody. Stick around. We'll be right back with the good news. Everybody. Welcome back. It's time for the good news. Who likes good news, Everyone? Then good news, everyone. And if you have any good news at all, no matter how small you think it is, it's going to be huge to someone else that can hear it, I promise you. We all need to microdose hope right now, so send in your good news stories to us. Confessions corrections, especially pronunciation corrections. If you have a shout out to a loved one or yourself or a small business in your area, or maybe your small business a government program that's helped you or a loved one like the Affordable Care act or SNAP, WIC, Head Start Section 8, anything like that, send it to us@dailybeanspod.com and click on Contact. And to get your submission read on the air, all you gotta do is pay your POD pet tariff, which means attach a photo of your pet. If you want us to guess the breeds in your dogs, we've done it right three times out of 8 million.
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Dana Goldberg
Yes, we have. We're proud of that though. We are proud of our stats, don't let you believe or not, we are very, very proud.
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Allison Gill
And like, like you said, Dan, we should have just hung it up last week when we got that third day.
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Dana Goldberg
Should have called it a day and been like, all right, that game's over. Thanks for participating, y'.
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Allison Gill
All. Oh yeah. If you don't have a pet, by the way, you can always send an adoptable pet in your area. We'll see if we can find him a forever home. If you don't have that, just grab a random photo of an animal off the Internet. We love baby animals especially. Send that to us. And if you don't have animal photos for Sirius, send us awkward family photos or your baby photos or your happy place photos. Maybe A nice sunset that you experienced recently that just really brought you at least, like, 17 seconds of calmness. We want to see it. We want to hear about it. And you could. Oh, bird watching, too. If you have photos of your family and friends flipping the bird to Trump or Musk, we want to see that as well.
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Dana Goldberg
We do love it.
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Allison Gill
Send it to us dailybeanspod.com click on Contact. Yesterday, while you were out, Dana, every single Good News submission was a bird watching photo.
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Dana Goldberg
That's awesome.
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Allison Gill
It was pretty great. All right, so, as I promised before the interview that we had with the executive director of Swing Left. And by the way, congratulations, Laguminati, for holding the record for grassroots fundraising at Swing Left.
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Dana Goldberg
You guys are amazing. Nice job. I know.
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Allison Gill
And I promise that your Good Trouble would be here in the Good News. And here it is. It's from Shanzhi, and it's a human being hybrid. Good evening, lovely purveyors of the bean. I heard that the Tangerine Toddlers regime is trying to erase our historic parks. We might not be able yet to save, but we can do this. Basically, take pictures and upload them to this website. Save our signs. We're going to be putting this in this link to where you can do this in the show notes. Every teeny bit of resistance will be a work of art. Which reminds me, there's a book called Knitting the National Parks by Krista Ann. A way for this knitting bombshell to amp up the chaotic knittery. My pod pet tax includes mischief. My main crafting assistant, and my derpy floof burbs. Laverne. My derpy floof burbs. Excuse me, Laverne, Booker and Osgood.
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Dana Goldberg
Oh, my God. Look at the silky chickens.
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Allison Gill
That little fancy chicken.
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Dana Goldberg
Okay, I'm not gonna lie. It took me a second to find the head of these chickens.
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Allison Gill
Right. Which side is which?
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah.
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Allison Gill
Oh, my gosh.
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Dana Goldberg
They're really so cute.
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Allison Gill
I love chickens. And look at this kitty. We gladly feast on those who would subdue us.
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Dana Goldberg
I love that.
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Allison Gill
Fantastic. All right, we'll have that Good Trouble. Upload your national park pics in the show notes. Thank you so much for that Good Trouble.
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Dana Goldberg
Absolutely. This is from Bri Pronoun. She and her hi Beans team. I just wanted to reach out to share some small good news. I'm an amateur sewer who started learning how to mend and make her own clothes over the past year. And I fell in love with being able to create a garment with her own hands. And with some cat supervision, of course. While it's been challenging to go against my perfectionist mindset. I hear you. By the way. There's been something innately satisfying about using this growing skill set to create a usable object and then using said skill set to make huge pocket extensions for the fronts of my women's jeans. Which is great because the jeans, pockets and women so tiny. I've now had a taste of what power is and I can't be stopped. What was even more awesome is that while I've been on this exciting journey, I was recently contacted by my local library to assist in developing programming for their upcoming sewing Month in September. It'll be a month long program that we'll be discussing in detail about further this week, but I'm hoping to help build a small community of like minded individuals who also find joy in making sewn objects. So if you're in the Rahway Rahway, New Jersey area in September, every one of every level is welcome. For some background, back when my great aunt was alive in Kimberling City, Missouri, she helped run a quilting group that was part community building and part charity. This group would meet and create quilts for auction to help raise funding for their local library. I find it pretty inspiring when a small group of people can get together consistently and end up enacting change. I myself am hoping down the line, if a group is interested, we might be able to do similar or be wildly different. How about an inclusive fashion show to help raise money for community causes? Fingers crossed. Love you both and love the guests. Stay groovy. Now this organization, Bri, doesn't know I'm doing this, but I want you to look up magpies and peacocks. That's all I'm saying. Everyone, anyone who's interested in an organization that is doing good things with clothing and Bri, it might be someone for you to contact about this. Magpies and peacocks. That's it. Keep on moving.
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Allison Gill
Oh amazing. And look at this kitty asleep in the basket. That's adorable. And Bri, how cool is it that it's in your blood, right? Your aunt, your great aunt in Missouri had a quilting group to raise money for a library. And now the library's reached out to you to help put together a sewing.
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Dana Goldberg
Month that is pretty awesome.
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Allison Gill
That is so cool. I remember when I was researching like my family, I found out that I had a great uncle in Ohio named, oh, I'll think of his name in a second Reaser Harry Reeser, who was like the number one banjoist comedy guy at the time. He had A regular gig at the Clicquot Club in New York playing comedy music.
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Dana Goldberg
That's awesome.
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Allison Gill
And I was like, that's so weird. I did that for a really long time. So that's just fascinating that your great aunt was doing the same work. So wonderful, Bre. Thank you for that. Next up, from Meredith T. Pronoun. She and her hello, loquacious ladies of the legumes. I want to give a shout out to myself. I love these and share something that I do to help the homeless in central Florida. I'm a caregiver for the elderly, and frequently my clients no longer want their bottled or canned drinks that they once liked. I'll take these drinks and when I see a homeless person on the side of the road, I'll give them a cold drink. I keep Gatorade in the freezer, and when I leave for work, I'll bring a few along. At the beginning of the pandemic, I was an instacart shopper, and several times there were issues that happened with an order which resulted in me being allowed to take that order for myself. I kept what I liked and gave away the rest. Snacks, bottles of water, etc. Once my current stash is gone, I'll be washing, then filling up my own empty Gatorade bottles with water and keeping them in the freezer. So I'll always have cold drinks to give to those in need.
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Dana Goldberg
Nice.
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Allison Gill
This is something easy to do and I know how appreciated it is. I'm sure there's plenty of folks out there who just throw away or recycle their empty bottles, and it doesn't occur to them to use them to help others. It's a fantastic thing to do if you want to give them something but don't have a lot to give. Thank you, Meredith. That's amazing. Yeah. And dehydration. You know, I worked at the VA Hospital in Los Angeles, a huge homeless population in Los Angeles, and one of the number one things that brought people into the hospital was dehydration. They just weren't getting enough water.
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah.
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Allison Gill
So this is amazing. Thank you for doing this.
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Dana Goldberg
That's very cool.
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Allison Gill
All right.
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Dana Goldberg
This is from Lena Pronoun. She and her. Here's some good news that seems uniquely fit for the beans. Last week, when I was finishing up a conversation with my brother who supported Trump in 2024, he said, out of nowhere, trump is a fuck. Instead of saying, I told you so, I just said, yes, he is and always has been a huge fuck. I hope people across the country are Having this conversation with loved ones ready to leave the cult. For my part, I have used my expertise as a journalist to develop free public online document called Resistance Resources for political newbies. All about calling Congress, protesting, finding reliable news sources and more. I was invited to give a presentation based on it at my local library, which went so well that now, with encouragement from my network work, I'm going to develop a zoom session so people all over can learn to take action. Amazing. We're going to share a link to the Resistance resources in the show. Notes. By the way, for my POD Pet tariff, I'm attaching a photo of myself before my annual mammogram last week as a reminder to all of us over 40 lovelies to get their screening on the calendar. And a picture of my rescue dog, Ginny, whom you have seen before in all her eyebrow glory. She is so freaking cute.
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Allison Gill
I remember Ginny's eyebrows.
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah.
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Allison Gill
Oh, amazing. Oh, it looks like we can guess what breeds are in there.
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Dana Goldberg
Oh, I mean, she looks like a little Yorkie Chihuahua.
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Allison Gill
Yeah, she does. Look at the ear hair coming over there.
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Dana Goldberg
So cute.
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Allison Gill
She got Pappy on in there. Let's see. She's 95. Sure. She's a Yorkie Chihuahua mix. We've got four dogs.
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Dana Goldberg
All right, everyone, listen. We should really shut this down now.
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Allison Gill
Maybe we should keep going. Maybe it's a sign to keep going. Let's keep going. All right, Jane Pronoun. She and her Good morning, Beans Queens. It's back to school time. And once again my teacher group is collecting little golden books for kindergarten students. Last year, we gave away over 900 books to students in three school districts, and Beans listeners helped supply 60 books. We discovered that kids really like the books about their sports heroes and pop stars. So if any listeners of the BEANS would like to help us this year, we will share a link to the wish list in the show. Notes for Podpet tariff. I'm sending a picture of our Sparky. He crossed the rainbow bridge several years ago, but I love this Texas dog's reaction to the Iowa snow. I'm sure you can guess his breed to increase your number of correct responses. Looks like a King Charles.
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Dana Goldberg
I mean, let's see.
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Allison Gill
It looks like he's a Shih Tzu. Look, I even it up. I even that up.
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Dana Goldberg
Oh, it's all Shih Tzu.
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Allison Gill
It was the ears that got me. Beautiful, beautiful baby.
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Dana Goldberg
All right, this is found anonymous pronoun she and her standing up for what is right does actually get results. Last week there was an announcement in A local church's news bulletin the church is located two beach towns away from here, by the way, advising its members of a rosary rally, AKA peaceful protest to be held in front of local business establishment that hosts a monthly drag brunch. The word quickly spread on Facebook, which led to a call for the community to show up to peacefully counter protest in support of the business. As word spread about the counter protest, it also spread to the diocese. The official statement from the diocese was, and I quote, it has come to our attention that the announcement of a rosary rally sponsored by an organization not associated with St. Anne's parish in Bethany beach nor the Diocese of Wilmington was regretfully included in the most recent St. Anne's parish bulletin. The rosary rally is scheduled for this weekend outside of Rehobows beach establishment that is holding, quote, a drag brunch. To be clear, while we wholeheartedly encourage the praying of the rosary, this rally is not endorsed by the parish or the diocese. As Catholic Christians, we recognize that all of us are made in the image and likeness of God and deserve to be treated with love and respect. We apologize for any divisiveness that this unfortunate situation has caused and pray that all may be united as brothers and sisters in Christ. The official statement that came from the restaurant was that I quote for the past eight years, Gooley's Grill has proudly hosted monthly drag Brunch, a celebration of self expression, community and local talent. These events bring joy, laughter and support to our LGBTQ friends, families and performers. This Sunday, we understand that a peaceful protest is planned against our drag brunch outside of our business. While we respect everyone's right to free speech, we want to be very clear our drag brunch is a celebration, not a political platform. We are not promoting any agenda. We are supporting our community and creating a safe space where everyone is welcome. Our events are adult friendly and family optional. No one is forced to attend and guests come by choice. We will continue to stand with love, respect and dignity even though our brunch is sold out. We invite our community to come and support us not with conflict, but by showing up and supporting our staff and performers and helping us turn this moment into our one of unity, not division. We're here to serve great food, host great shows and stand for something greater. Love. When Sunday came, there was no visible rosary rally or representation from the church. However, there was a crowd of over 200 who came to peacefully support the business. It's great to live in a community that is welcoming, diverse and supportive and will stand up for what is right as my payment, I'm including only one picture of my three rescue pups because I also wanted to share some pictures from the counter protest. Oh my gosh, all these pubs are fucking adorable.
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Allison Gill
Oh my God.
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Dana Goldberg
And look at this counter protest.
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Allison Gill
Oh my gosh, I love this so much.
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Dana Goldberg
Anonymous where are we?
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Allison Gill
Rehoboth Beach, I think.
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah, it's right. Why would anyone think a protest against a cafe anywhere near Rehoboth beach would go over well?
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Allison Gill
And I love that the church was like, no, we're not. Oh man, I love that good news.
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Dana Goldberg
Yeah, temporary little tear.
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Allison Gill
I got a little choked up. It's good when Sunday came, right? So good. All right, everybody, thank you so very much. Congratulations Beans listeners, on being the record holder for grassroots contributions.
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Dana Goldberg
Yes indeed.
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Allison Gill
That's just so cool. You guys are badasses. Thanks for your amazing good news contributions as well. If you have any, send them to us dailybeanspod.com, click on Contact. Check out my interview on Substack with Adam Klassfeld about Mr. Abrego. He has so much really, really great information and it's free over there on Substack. And do you have any final thoughts, my friend?
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Dana Goldberg
Just a little mention that tickets for the 9pm show on Aug. 15 in San Diego are also going very quickly. So if you're just hearing about the show and you live in the San Diego area or driving distance to San Diego and you want to see me do my live long show, it's going to be at the diversionary theater on August 15th and you can get tickets@danagoldberg.com hit my appearances. There is going to be a link there. Don't just rsvp, go buy tickets. They're going quickly. Allison, I can't wait to see you in a few weeks.
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Allison Gill
Yeah, I'll be at 7 o' clock show. And by the way, I think like every single MSW media staffer who lives in the San Diego area and or vendor has purchased tickets. I know our accountant and her wife are going to be there. I know my our web designer and her wife are going to be there.
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Dana Goldberg
Oh my gosh, I'm so excited.
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Allison Gill
Yeah, like everybody who works for the Beans is like we gotta go.
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Dana Goldberg
We gotta go see. Oh, you have to drag your ass on stage. If we have too many daily Beans people in the audience, I'll find out during the show and then I'll be like, Allison, why don't you come up and say hi.
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Allison Gill
I've never been on stage. I don't know how to be on stage.
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Dana Goldberg
That's true. You've never done that before.
- [61:19]
Allison Gill
Never. Never.
- [61:20]
Dana Goldberg
I don't want to put you on the spot.
- [61:22]
Allison Gill
And I've never gotten three dogs, right?
- [61:24]
Dana Goldberg
Oh my God. Right?
- [61:26]
Allison Gill
Thank you all so much for listening. We'll be back in your ears tomorrow. Don't forget to get your colonoscopy, don't forget to get your mammograms. And until then, please take care of yourselves, take care of each other, take care of the planet, take care of your mental health, and take care of your family. I've been ag. I've been DG and emsa Beans the Daily Beans is written and executive produced by Alison Gill with additional research and reporting by Dana Goldberg. Sound design and editing is by Desiree McFarlane with art and web design by Joelle Reeder with Moxie Design Studios. Music for the Daily Beans is written and performed by they Might Be Giants and the show is a proud member of the MSW Media Network, a collection of creator owned podcasts dedicated to news, politics and justice. For more information Please visit msw media.com msw media.