
Wednesday, August 27th, 2025 Today, a Trump appointed judge has thrown out Trump’s case against the entire Maryland bench; leading election denier Cleta Mitchell has been appointed to the DHS election integrity unit; Judge Lamberth orders Kari Lake to sit for a deposition about whether she is operating Voice of America up to legal minimum standards; Trump says he’s firing Federal Reserve board member Lisa Cook; an appeals court says Pennsylvania mail in ballots cannot be thrown out over misdated envelopes; the US says it will resume neighborhood checks for immigration applications; FEMA officials warn that Trump policies could lead to a Katrina level disaster; Jack Smith’s legal team fires back against Trump’s investigation; and Allison and Dana deliver your Good News.
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MSW Media. Hello and welcome to the Daily beans for Wednesday, Aug. 27, 2025. Today, a Trump appointed judge has thrown out Trump's lawsuit against the entire Maryland bench of judges. A leading election denier has been appointed to the DHS Election Integrity Unit. Judge Lamberth orders Carrie Lake to sit for a deposition about whether she's operating Voice of America up to legal minimum standards. Trump says he's firing Federal Reserve Board member Lisa Cook. An appeals court says Pennsylvania mail in ballots cannot be thrown out over misstated envelopes. The United States says it will resume neighborhood checks for for immigration applications. FEMA officials warn that Trump policies could lead to a Katrina level disaster. And Jack Smith's legal team fires back against Trump's investigation. I'm Allison Gill.
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And I'm Dana Goldberg.
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Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike. It's hump day.
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Oh, man, we're. I with Allison. I, uh. We're exhausted. Hey, everybody, we're gonna pull it together. We're gonna bring up some energy. But, man, every once in a while, I just hit a wall. Like a Mac truck.
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Yeah. Right before we hit record, I was like, I can't wait to put on my jam jams and sit on the couch and watch my programs and have my programs. Oh, my goodness. But we're gonna, we're gonna do this. It's the beans. And I can't wait for the good news today. There's some really good stuff in there. I'm also going to be talking to Mrs. Frazzled later in the show. She's been on the show before. I love her. Now, I know you want to play president, but we can't play president right now. Okay. She's so great. We're going to talk about the Department of Education. Also, you and I had a live video podcast with politics girl, Heather Cox Richardson, Joanne Carducci. It was awesome.
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I mean, five, including myself, just incredible people that we had talked about. At the moment we logged on, it felt like this really safe wormhole of community where all of a sudden we were like, oh, we can see each other. It was a beautiful thing. So obviously, Allison's gonna put that up somewhere where people can see it. No, no, no, I'm not.
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Yeah, it's a bunch.
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Enjoy. I mean, just enjoy it. Just go watch. There's a couple very poignant things and also some hopeful moments. You know, Heather's incredible. Absolutely incredible. They all are. I look at Heather as scripture in many ways right now, and I think she's just a brilliant, brilliant woman. So is Lee McGowan and JoJo, just. And you already know how I feel about you. So, yeah, it was just a great afternoon.
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It was, it was wonderful. And yeah, that's up now@mullershirote.com so you can watch it the first 15 minutes or so. The sound was really bad, so we like cut that out. But there's a really good, like at least 30 minutes of awesomeness that you can watch again. Military wrote dot com. It's free. All right, we have a ton of news to get to. Let's hit the hot notes. Hot notes. All right, first up from the Times, lawyers for Jack Smith. Remember him? I miss him. Former special counsel who investigated Trump. They have struck back for the first time against some of the accusations that conservatives have leveled against him, denouncing an ethics complaint as imaginary and unfounded. For months, Mr. Smith has remained silent as the president and some of his senior advisors, including top Justice Department officials, publicly attacked him, accusing him of engaging in wrongdoing for overseeing two criminal inquiries and indictments of Donald Trump. The investigations involved whether Trump mishandled classified documents. That's actually called illegally retaining them. And obstructed justice after he left office, as well as efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election.
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Both things he actually did.
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Both things he totally did. And of course, now he wants to search execute a search warrant at John Bolton's house. Like anybody gives a shit. On Monday, Mr. Smith's legal team sent a letter to the Office of Special Counsel. Not like that. Has no affiliation with Mr. Smith's former position. Like he was, he was an appointed special counsel. There's an actual Office of Special Counsel and the Office of Special Counsel conducts ethics investigations of government employees, primarily into whether people have violated the Hatch Act. Act, which bars federal workers from using their jobs to work on behalf of a political campaign.
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I'm giggling because the amount this family, the Trump family, has made.
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Yeah, they were trying to go after me for the Hatch act, too, because of the Mueller She Wrote podcast. And they failed. Andy McCabe and I are going to go over Jack Smith's lawyer's letter in detail. This letter to the Office of Special Counsel. We're going to do that on this weekend's Unjustified podcast. So tune into that for more details.
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And this one's from the post. More than 180 Federal Emergency Management Agency employees sent a letter Monday to members of Congress and other officials arguing that the agency's direction and current leaders inexperience. It harms FEMA's mission and could result in a disaster on the level of Hurricane Katrina. The letter on which three dozen employees signed their full names, says that since January, staffers have been operating under leaders which are Homeland Security Secretary Krissi Noemi, Little Puppy Shooter, Active FEMA Administrator David Richardson and former leader Cameron Hamilton, all who lack the legal qualifications and the authority to manage FEMA's operations. This has eroded and hindered the agency's ability to effectively manage emergencies and other operations, including national security work. This is what this letter says that all of them signed after Hurricane Katrina became one of the worst disasters in the nation's history other than the presidents of the United States right now, in part because of failures by local, state and federal governments. By the way, that was the Bush administration, okay. That caused a lot of that. Congress passed the post Katrina Emergency Management Reform act to give FEMA more power and responsibility. The resulting legislation allowed FEMA to better prepare communities for and help them recover from disasters. But the letter warns that the Trump administration is sending the agency and the country back to a pre Katrina era by not having a Senate confirmed and qualified emergency manager FEMA's helm, by slashing mitigation, disaster recovery training and community programs and by thwarting officials ability to make decisions because of a restrictive new expense policy. The letter demands that federal lawmakers defend FEMA from the Department of Homeland Security interference. It demands that it protect the agency's employees from political motivated firings that conduct more oversight then ultimately take FEMA out of DHS and establish it as an independent cabinet level agency in the executive branch. And I quote, our shared commitment to our country, our oaths of office, our mission of helping people before, during and after disasters compel us to warn Congress and the American people of the cascading effects of the decisions made by the current administration. This is what the employees wrote, adding that they are sounding the alarm, they said so that we can continue to lawfully uphold our individual oaths of office and serve our country as our mission dictates.
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Yeah. And that restrictive new expense policy means that anything over a hundred thousand dollars has to get the personal sign off of. Of the puppy killer.
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Yep.
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And we know that that delayed response to the Texas floods by the whole, that whole weekend. Yeah, well she was out riding horses with Lewandowski in Argentina or whatever the that we paid for.
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Yeah.
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All right, next up from. I would love that by the way, if FEMA became a cabinet level.
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Oh yeah.
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Agency. Next up from cbs. The Trump administration is reinstating a long dormant practice of conducting neighborhood checks to vet immigrants applying for citizenship and that's expanding its efforts to aggressively scrutinize immigration applications. That's according to a government memo obtained by cbs. The neighborhood checks would involve on the ground investigations by officials at U.S. citizenship and Immigration Services. That would include interviews with neighbors and co workers of citizenship applicants. So this is another one of those snitch on your neighbor programs.
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Boy.
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The government investigations would be conducted to determine if applicants satisfy the requirements for American citizenship, which include showing good moral character, adhering to the US Constitution, and being well disposed to the good order and happiness of the United States. How. What the. What kind of dystopian Gilead Stepford Wives is that? Well disposed to the good order and happiness of the United States. That's so. That's so Nazi. To qualify for citizenship in the first place, applicants typically must have lived in the US for three to five years or as a legal permanent resident. They must also not have any serious criminal records and pass a civics and English test. The process is known as naturalization. The Trump administration's memo upends a decades old US Government policy. While the neighborhood investigations for citizenship cases are outlined in US law and they can also be waived, which is. That's what the government's done since 1991. So basically they're bringing back an old arcane zombie Nazi law that we've been waiving since 1991.
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Oh boy. On a white supremacist. I'm sure it's a. Miller is behind this. Of course.
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Yeah.
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All right, this one's from Democracy docket. A leading election conspiracy theorist described by the anti voting lawyer Cleta Mitchell as a quote, wonderful person. So that'll give you an idea of who this is. Has been named to a new Election Integrity post at the U.S. department of Homeland Security. This should be also a little bit of an alarm. According to the leadership chart at DHS's website, Heather Honey was appointed earlier this month as the Deputy Assistant Secretary for the Elections Integrity in the department's Office of Strategy Policy and Plans position reports to David Harvlitz, DHS's assistant secretary for Cyber Infrastructure. Risk and resilience. Appears to be newly created. Okay, no such role even existed under Biden's administration. As the founder of pfe, Honey has led efforts to remove registered voters from states voter rolls using false and misleading data called from unverified sources. This is horrifying. Honey also played a key role in the right wing effort which much of it was driven by conspiracy theories to pressure states to withdraw from the Electronic Registration Information center or Eric A nonpartisan organization that helps to coordinate accurate voter registration data between states across the country. So if this gerrymandering doesn't work, and we know that the federal government doesn't really control elections, however, they've now installed one of their own into a part that actually does take care of some things with our federal elections.
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Yeah. And just a role that they've created. I remember they had the Elections Integrity Board or whatever, that and that. Like, they went to out looking for voter fraud, and there was never any. So they folded that whole operation. Trump put out two research, paid $1.5 million for two research firms to see if there was any voter fraud in 2020. There wasn't. And he never told anybody about it. It's long been debunked that there was widespread voter fraud in these elections, 2020, et cetera. So it's just, it's ridiculous. But Cleta Mitchell's awful, so anyone she likes is also awful.
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Yeah.
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And the fact that they are withdrawing from Eric, that electronic registration information center. We've talked about that before in the show. Is frightening. All right, next up from Politico, President Donald Trump Monday said he's firing the Federal Reserve Governor, Lisa Cook, escalating his pressure campaign on the central bank to lower interest rates. In a social media post, Trump shared a letter addressed to Cook asserting the Department of Justice's inquiry into whether Cook lied on a mortgage application, whether that lie amounted to sufficient cause to remove her from the Fed board. I told you this would happen.
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Yep.
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Okay. Federal Housing Finance Agency Director Bill Pulte of Pulte Homes filed a criminal referral to the Department of Justice this month alleging Cook claimed two homes as her primary residence. One of a number of mortgage fraud investigations he's launched against presidential political targets, including New York Attorney General Tish James, California Senator Adam Schiff. And many of These folks have two primary residences because they work in D.C. and where they live. And then in Tish James's case, she was a co signer on a mortgage for her niece, and that was actually her niece's primary residence. So, like, it's all BS that he's just trying to find for cause because he knows the Supreme Court wants to protect the Fed because they're all super rich.
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Yep.
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And, and so now it's the leopards eating the face type situation.
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Love it.
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You created this monster Supreme Court. Now, Cook argued that Trump's cause for removing her is illegitimate, and her attorney pledged to challenge the president's actions. Quote, president Trump purported to fire me for cause when no cause exists under the law and he has no authority to do so. I will not resign, she said. I will continue to carry out my duties to help the American economy as I've been doing since 2022. That's what she said in a statement to Politico and Abby lol. Cook's attorney said President Trump has taken to social media to once again fire by tweet and once again his reflex to bully is flawed and his demands lack any proper process or basis or legal authority. And he went on to say we will take whatever actions are needed to prevent this attempted illegal action. But this past may, like I said, the conservatives on the Supreme Court said that while Trump can fire members of the National Labor Relations Board and the Merit Systems Protection Board, he cannot fire members of the Federal Reserve Board. So we'll see if they fall for Trump's for cause, mortgage fraud bullshit or not. I bet they will.
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I wouldn't put it past them. But there is better news. This one's from Politico. Yes, we're ready for something. Mail in ballots that Pennsylvania voters submit without proper dates on the return envelope. They may not be discarded. This is from a federal appeals court. That's what they ruled on Tuesday. And this is the latest twist in a years long legal fight over mail voting rules in the battleground state. Pennsylvania election officials, they've rejected thousands of votes in recent years under a state law that requires voters to handwrite a date on the outer envelope when voting by mail. Well, that practice disproportionately affects Democratic voters who are far likelier than Republicans in this state to vote by mail. Meaning Tuesday's ruling, if it stands, would likely boost Democrats in future elections. Please, God, please. Democrats have repeatedly sued to get those undated and wrongly dated ballots counted. And On Tuesday, a three judge panel of the Philadelphia based 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals concluded that the state's rejection of undated ballots imposed an unreasonable burden on voters ability to cast ballots with virtually no benefit for preventing fraud. And only with some counties the judges noted offered voters a chance to correct their errors.
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Okay, so that's interesting. I remember that coming up in 2020, you know this has been going on for a long time.
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Yeah.
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And if you put the wrong date or sometimes I write my numbers backwards.
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Yeah, same.
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You know, they were like, no, those count. And like you said, only some counties offer ballot curing. So it's, it's so obvious. Like they just don't want people to be able to vote.
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No, especially in Pennsylvania. It's a Very important state.
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Yeah. All right. More better news. This is from Politico. A federal judge has forcefully rejected a highly unusual and completely stupid lawsuit that the Trump administration filed against all 15 judges on the Maryland bench whom the Justice Department accused of hindering the president's mass deportation agenda. In tossing out the lawsuit, U.S. district Judge Thomas Cullen, a Donald Trump appointee, lamented what he described as the White House's months long smear of the federal judiciary. For months, Cullen wrote, top executive branch officials have attacked judges who rule against the administration as left wing liberal activists, radical, politically minded, rogue, unhinged, outrageous, overzealous and unconstitutional, crooked and worse. Quote. Although some tension between the coordinate branches of government is a hallmark of our constitutional system, this concerted effort by the executive to smear and impugn individual judges who rule against it is both unprecedented and unfortunate. That's what Cullen said. The Trump administration filed a lawsuit in June against all 15 judges who sit on the federal district court in Maryland. It's so stupid. The lawsuit challenged the court's policy of automatically pausing any deportation for two business days if the potential deportee files a special legal petition contesting deportation, which they're allowed to do. Quote, whatever the merits of its grievance with the judges of the United States District Court for the District of Maryland, the executive must find a proper way to raise those concerns. This is what Colin wrote the Trump appointee, and went on to say. All of this isn't to say that the executive is without any recourse, far from it. If the executive truly believes that defendants standing orders violate the law, it should avail itself of the tried and true recourse available to all federal litigants. It should appeal.
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What a great statement, right? Finally, every once in a while, even a broken clock is right twice a day. It's nice to see that not everyone has sold their soul. All right, this is from npr. A senior federal judge on Monday ordered Trump's administration official, Carrie Lake. God, I'm tired of hearing her fucking name. To submit to questioning under oath in ongoing litigation over her efforts to effectively dismantle Voice of America despite congressional mandates that it be maintained at a court hearing. U.S. district Judge Roy C. Lamberth, who we hear about a lot, said Lake was, and I quote, verging on contempt of court for failing to comply with his request to orders to make information available about her intentions for the future of the federally funded international broadcaster. He said Lake and two aides had to testify by Sept. 15 and provide the court with detailed information. She had to date withheld about Voice of America and its federal parent, the U.S. agency for Global Media. One of the aides is Frank Wuko, a political appointee who helped investigate Voice of America journalists for perceived anti Trump bias at the end of President Trump's first term. A different federal judge, by the way, later found that to be unconstitutional. Now, during Monday's two hour court hearing, Lambert blasted a U.S. justice Department attorney for his handling of the defense, saying he was offering only vague assurance that the government had acted reasonably instead of substantive responses. And he said that's just a hide the ball answer. That was Lamberth tersely. That's what he told Michael Vilcik. He's a senior counsel for the U.S. department justice who made his first court appearance in the case Monday.
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Hide the ball. I've heard multiple federal judges say that about this Department of Justice map all right, well good. She has to be deposed by September 15th and hand over her stuff or I think we'll get to contempt.
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I hope so.
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Thank you so much for having me.
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Thank you. I really am so glad to see you. And I, you know, I've been a fan for forever, and my best friend's wife is a preschool teacher, so we'll go out to, like, drag shows or drag queen bingo or whatever, and she will continue to talk like Ms. Amanda. And we absolutely love it. So thank you so much for joining us. Because right now, one of the things that I've been talking about a lot on the podcast that I host is the privatization of government function, whether it's the Postal Service or the Department of Veterans affairs or healthcare in general or prisons, like we're seeing with these concentration camps that are going up everywhere using our Medicaid dollars that have been gutted or Medicaid or Social Security or privatizing the irs. They want to do that with direct file and of course, privatizing education, like with the school voucher scams that are out there in a way for them to scoop up our tax dollars and give them to their billionaire friends and donors. So I really wanted to kind of talk about that with the Department of Education with you today because of all of the amazing content you create about education and government's function in it. So let's start there. Talk about what the Department of Education was designed to do. And what this administration is trying to give to their rich buddies.
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I mean, really, when it comes down to it, the Department of Education was really just started to make sure that every kid has a shot at getting an education. So that means rich or poor, black or white, disabled, able bodied, whatever, that everybody gets a chance to access education. And of course, it's not perfect. I know we have more that we could be doing. But the thing about the way the Trump administration is going about this is instead of giving more support or looking at other countries for what really has worked, they kind of are doing the opposite at every turn and just trying to push their own agenda through. We're seeing just off the wall shit that nobody has ever said was gonna help education, that they just are going on extremist vibes alone, basically. It's really unfortunate. And the privatization of public education really seems to be the ultimate goal, in my opinion.
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Yeah, I think so too. And they still do these vouchers. They take our tax dollars that we should be putting toward public education and spending them on vouchers for private schools. And most of the families that use those have plenty of money. And then, you know, they funded these private schools, and then these private for profit schools get a ton of money that they can in turn donate to Republicans in dark money donations because corporations are people. And continue the cycle of electing Republicans to keep giving the money to these folks. And talk about what that looks like in practical terms with what's going on with the Department of Education wanting to send it to the states. Right? Like we like fema. They want to do this with fema. We should send it to the states. And then we've got 50 different departments of Education doing different things with different standards and without the money to do it. Because we, you know, in a, for a practical matter, we send our tax dollars to the federal government to fund the Department of Education, do we get to then keep those dollars that we would have otherwise sent for the federal Department of Education and keep it in the states to spend on our own? I mean, I'm confused by this.
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If only. I mean, what they're trying to do. They've kicked around a lot of ideas. So one of the biggest is talking about block grants. So let's take these categorical grants, these dollars that are already earmarked for specific functions within the Department of Education, let's just turn those into big lump sums of money and send them out to the states. And their argument is, well, states know better than anybody what to do. With their students, how to spend those dollars. So let's take the federal government out of it. The issue is the 8 to 12% that is sent to states from the federal Department of Education. It is specifically going to the most marginalized groups of people, students. It's going to fund idea for our disabled students. It's going to fund things like title one for our poor schools. It's money that if we don't have that money, a, you're going to see things like property taxes rise in states. Like if they just get a get rid of it totally, they're going to have to raise taxes. States are saying, we don't actually know how the hell we're going to find that money because we just don't have it. If they do block grants and just send that as lump sums, we're going to get back to why the Department of Education was founded in the first place. This became a cabinet level federal agency because states were not doing what they needed to be doing. They, after the Civil War, were not educating black people at all. And the north was in the federalist schools, but the south was like, you know what? I don't want to do that. So they were getting, you know, they were doing what they were doing now with the racism stuff. But I digress. We needed federal intervention to desegregate schools. We needed federal intervention to get them to start to educate disabled students equitably. It's still not equitable. Idea is supposed to be funded 40% by the federal government. They have never broken, I think, 14% of that promise. Like they've never gotten more than 14% funded. So if I could trust the states to do the right thing, it would be one thing. We cannot. They have lost that privilege.
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Right.
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I kind of see it like how I see Voting Rights Act.
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Yeah.
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You know, we've got all the states constitutionally are responsible for administering their own elections. But some states are super shitty about it and pretty racist about it. And so there are federal rules in place that make sure. Well, they've been gutted by the Supreme Court going back to 2013. But you know, there are things like, hey, Mississippi, if you want to change your voting rules, you got to clear it with the Department of Justice first to make sure you're not being super shitty. And now, of course, that provision is gone. We still have section two, kind of. And that might go away with this Louisiana case, but that's how I see it. Like you leave the states to it, but there's got to be federal stuff protecting and preventing states from stealing the money and spending it on and being racist or ableist or whatever by leaving marginalized groups behind. Which is tends to be what happens when you run your state like a business instead of a government that's supposed to be helping people.
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Yeah. And my favorite least. Oh, and I have to corrections corner already. I said federalist schools. It's freedmen schools, not federalist schools. Continuing different F word, but yeah. So if you look at Oklahoma. Oh my word. Like this crazy man, Ryan Walters, their state superintendent, because not a lot of people know that every state has its own department of Education in addition to the federal Department of Education. The man that runs Oklahoma has wanted to spend at $1.6 million on Bibles and associated legal fees because he knew that that was going to go all the way to the top of the court system because it's against the Constitution and it's against the Oklahoma Constitution as well. It's not just against like, you know, things that we have said in the regular Constitution. And this guy is running schools. Oklahoma is 50th or 49th in education in the entire United States. Where are your priorities, dude? Well, they're just. He wants to climb up Donald Trump's butthole. Like that's pretty much the whole.
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Maybe he thinks 50 is the best.
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He said. I would not be shocked. I mean, I don't know how incarnation. He thinks teaching the Bible from the Trump Bible, by the way, God Bless America edition. I don't know how he thinks that's going to help schools.
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69.99 Made in China, dead ass.
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Like this crazy person. So I'm like, I look at that and I'm like, you can't, you're not allowed to be left to your own devices, sir. Like what?
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Yeah, well, I mean I, I'm all for if I don't have to send my federal tax dollars to the federal government that would otherwise cover education. And we're seeing this in a lot of states now, a lot of blue states, they're calling it soft secession. Right. Where they're, where they're talking about not helping out this particular administration. But I don't know the, I'm not smart enough on the law and federalism to know whether or not like in California, if we can just not send our federal money to the federal government, probably not. That's probably there's. I'm sure that's breaking some sort of a rule. But if you're taking away my post office, my, you know, my government run healthcare, like Department of Veterans Affairs. You're taking away my Department of Education. You're taking away the things that my tax dollars pay for. I feel like, you know, I've seen a lot of people like, why do we even pay taxes? Well, to avoid going to jail. But like, what's the point of sending all our federal dollars to the federal government if they're not going to spend it on stuff for us and protections for those who need the protections?
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I mean, that's a fabulous question. I don't know the real answer to that either. I just know that we hear that argument a lot from the right too, where they're like, well, if I pull my kid out of public school, why should I send my tax dollars over?
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Because that's how you. That's what you. I don't have any children and I pay property taxes and I pay taxes for the Department of Education for the betterment of society. So that we become critical thinkers. I think that might be the problem that they have is actually educating the electorate.
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Oh, I 100% think so. Because if you look throughout history, we can trace the thread that education controls the narrative, it controls the future electorate. Like you said, it controls everything. I mean, if you look at patterns in education in different eras as well, you can also see, oh, during the Cold War, X, Y and Z was being pushed in school. During the space race, we were seeing this other set of stuff going on. You know, it's very tailored to the exact moment in time that we're seeing, like politically, if you know what I mean.
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Yeah, that totally makes sense to me. Before I let you go, I have a note here that we should. On Charlie Kirk if there's time. Yeah, we have time. Let's. On Charlie Kirk. What do you got?
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Well, you know, I was thinking about Charlie Kirk and I realized I hadn't thought about Charlie Kirk in a long time because I just find him very boring with the whole extremist shtick. I think it's very tired, it's very lazy. There's a million of them. He's a dime a dozen. I mean, I open Twitter and there's thousands of Charlie Kirk's just all over that place.
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Mediocre white men.
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Mediocre white men with a lot to say. Big old mouth and bad ideas. So what a loser.
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What's his. What's he done recently? He did something stupid recently.
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Get completely destroyed by 20 year old boys on different mediums. That's what I see college campuses across the U.S. dean is just chasing him around and saying debate me to Beat me. And he's running, which is very, very funny to me. I want to turn, but nobody will give me a turn. You know, they. But I have a dream.
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I'm very bad at debate. Or I totally would. Like, like, Mehdi Hassan is really good at debate. So good. I'm really bad at it. That's why I never. When I was a comedian, it's why I never did roast battles, because I would think of something really, really like a stinger, and then I'd be like, oh, that's too mean. And I'd be like, you look stupid. You know, like, I can't do it. I can't. If I was debating somebody, I'd be like, yeah, but you're dumb. You know, I have no idea. I'm just not that good at it. But I love that Charlie Kirk is running away. I think he's really mad about Cracker.
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Barrel, which is so. What a boring restaurant to be upset about.
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He really. He was really good at the triangle peg game, I guess. And bless his heart. And I still can't even figure out, is it because they took the old white guy off of it that they're mad?
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I can't think of. I assume. Like, I. I can't even figure it out by this. I can't either. There's a lot of things that they do and say on the far right that I'm like, I can't know what the. You're talking about the Cracker Barrel logo being like a point of just outrage. I. I'm shocked. I don't know they're calling it.
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How is. How is. Yeah, how is taking the old white guy with the barrel away going woke?
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Maybe they really identify as the old white guy with a barrel. They're like, I see myself in that motif.
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I don't understand.
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I don't understand.
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I don't understand. It's not like they put two gay cowboys up on there.
C
No, no.
A
Broke back Cracker Barrel. No, they didn't do that.
C
It's. I just don't understand what their even definition of woke is at this point. They have distorted it through several fun house mirrors.
A
They don't either. There was one time in court where somebody where Ron DeSantis had to answer or the lawyer for Ron DeSantis had to answer what woke was. And they were like, oh, it's people who care about social justice issues. Like, like, not that. Whoa.
C
Like, like, no, not caring about their latest is.
A
Their latest is you. Why should we give federal dollars to schools if they can't define what a woman is.
C
Oh, I hear that all the time. And I just. And then you hit them with like biology. You can be like, okay, well what do you think a woman is? Far right person. And they'll be like, they. They have babies. And you're like, well, seahorses. The men carry the babies.
A
Yeah, I can't have babies, by the way. I'm 51.
C
Correct. Does it make you not a woman when you no longer can or never can have babies, but they just. Their brains short circuit when you give any semblance of nuance and then like anything, like pointing throughout nature like, you know, not all biologically female anythings can have babies.
A
It happens. Xxy, there's xyy, there's all sorts of.
C
Things and they just can't fathom. And then I'm like, well, maybe you should go back to school. So if we're on the topic of school teach, let's go for biology class, bud.
A
Yeah, we're back on education. I always say when they ask me what a woman is, I always say, somebody who would cover their drink when you come in. That's really all I could think of.
C
Excellent.
A
Anyway, thank you so very much for joining us. I encourage everyone to listen to the teacher quit talk podcast, but you all and follow you on TikTok. You've got a zillion followers, but you have a substack now. Talk about that for a second.
C
I do. I really enjoyed the sub stack of it all. I have started doing like deep dives on substack. So, like, I think three of the things that you and I just talked about. I have deep dives on, like, different differences generationally throughout education and like the history of education, why education is political, why we need the department of education, all of these things. I just have really enjoyed writing long form stuff and adding more context that isn't necessarily in my videos, so. Oh my God.
A
Yeah, I like long form.
C
It looks like I'm crying. Do you have a video feed of this?
A
I can see you. Do you have something in your eye?
C
Yeah, but can the viewers see me?
A
No, we're just doing audio today, friends.
C
I'm crying. I do have something in my eye, but anywho. Yeah, that's a substack. It just makes me weep with joy.
A
You're crying because you're so woke and you don't know what a woman is.
C
Stop it. They'll clip it. They'll clip this. I'll be on Ben Shapiro again.
A
That's what I'll do. I'LL sell this to the right wing machine and say they'll love. Look, we made her cry.
C
We did it.
A
Oh, my goodness. It's so great to see you again. I hope we have you on again soon because they're already dismantling the Department of Education and we're going to be seeing and really feeling the effects and impacts of that. And so I look forward to checking out your substack, reading it long form, looking at the nuance and the deep dives, and then also we'll be happy to have you back on the show. So thank you.
C
Thank you, Ms. Frazzled, everybody.
A
Go follow her. Find her. You love her, you know her. You need it. Kneel before Zodiac. All right, everyone, I have to go gather the good news for the next segment. So everybody stick around. We'll be right back. Everybody, welcome back. It's time for the good news. Who likes good news?
B
Everyone.
A
Then good news, everyone. And if you have any good news, confessions, corrections, any good little thing, big or small, that's happened to you ever. Taylor Swift just got engaged. Tell me about that.
B
If you're a swifty, you're waiting for your save the date. I know it.
A
Do you see that ring, dude? It's like 50 million carats.
B
It's beautiful, though.
A
They're so cute.
B
I hope they make it.
A
They're gonna. I have a feeling they're like the all American couple, you know?
B
Yeah. Well, what does that mean right now? They're gonna burn in flames if they're all American couple.
A
Okay. The idea of America that works, I think Charlotte was like, somebody said, this is like our royal wedding. And I'm like, yeah, it kind of is.
B
Yeah.
A
So that's good news. Any good news that's happening, good. Any good, big or small, send it to us. Could be a shout out to yourself, a loved one, a small business, a non profit that's doing some great work you want to shine a light on. You can shout out a government program. Maybe let us know what you're making and creating, what you're doing to pass the for between now and 2029. Send us photos of that. You can also, like I said, shout out to a government program like student debt relief that's helped you or a loved one. It could be snap. Wic. Head Start is a great program. I know a lot of people have benefited from that. And all you got to do to get your good news read on the air, whatever it is, is just attach a photo of your pet. And if you don't have a pet, send an adoptable pet in your area. And if you don't have that, you can really just grab any random photo of an animal on the Internet. And even if you don't have that, any photo works, really. It can be your happy place. A sunset the last time you went on vacation. We would love to hear about that. National parks. Talk up your national parks. We would love to hear about those. Maybe a rally, some great signs that you've been to. And like no kings or hands off or a Tesla takedown or a fox takedown. Send it all to us. And if you don't have that, family photos, baby pictures, whatever it is, it's totally fine. Bird watching. We still do that, right?
B
Yeah, we sure do. I always will.
A
Yep. Or you flipping the bird to Trump or musk or some. Just any a hole, really. Send it to us@dailybeanspod.com and click on contact. And our first Good news submission is today's Good Trouble and it comes from Anonymous. It says, hey Beans, I just wanted to say thank you for being a bright spot. I work at Johns Hopkins University and learned today that they have quietly gutted the Office of Diversity and Inclusion and completely closed the Office of Inclusive Excellence, Education and Development. All of this after sending out messaging to all community members in January that operations would stay the same at Hopkins. The staff from these critical offices who were let go were offered measly severance packages and forced to sign NDAs before they could receive said package. It's maddening that an institution that touts its forward and innovative thinking secretively denies diversity resources to all of its members. I'm assuming in compliance with the Orange Julius Caesar. I am enraged and I want to push back. The efforts of one person won't be enough, though. So if anyone wants to express their disappointment with Johns Hopkins, you can email President Ron daniels@presidenthu.edu who approved this? And Dr. Laney Rutko. That's lrutkow R U T K O w@jhu.edu, we'll have both those emails in the show. Notes who actually swung the sword on DEI efforts. Hopkins is afraid of anything that looks like a PR nightmare. So if enough people push back, I'm sure these programs will be reinstated. Thank you for always fighting the good fight for humanity. My tariff is a pic of a badass Secretary Byrd.
B
I mean, this is a very cool picture.
A
I love Secretary Byrdes and he's fighting with the snake and winning. Okay. And I found out the reason they called him Secretary Birds are those little plumes on top of Their heads.
B
Oh. Like feather from felt pens.
A
They look like pens and pencils that you stood secretaries would stick in their hair.
B
That's funny. Thank you for that. All right, this next one's from Alexis. Pronouns she and her. Hey, Baines.
A
Queens.
B
This will be quick. I just finished listening to how's your eight Friends? Episode, and I couldn't run to the site fast enough to tell you that Earn More Sessions By Sleeving is from Roxanne with Steve Martin, which I must have seen about 100 times by now. It's such an infinitely rewatchable gem from my childhood. Yes, it is. Love what y' all do. Never stop. Never stopping. I'll be here next time with useless pop culture knowledge. Yours in 80s references. Thank you, Alexis. I love.
A
I love that we called the episode how's yous Eight Friends? Because Nancy Mace only got eight people.
B
Oh, my God. That's amazing.
A
Our producers are so incredible. They come up, they send me every night, they send me a list of possible episode titles, and I'm always just in stitches laughing, and I always pick my favorite. But, yeah, earn more sessions by sleeving. What did you think I said? I said, 10 more seconds and I'm leaving. Why? What do you think I said? I thought you said earn more sessions by sleeving. What the hell does that mean? I don't know. That's why I came out.
B
That's such a good film.
A
Next. I'm gonna watch it again tonight. I love it. Next up, from Beth Pronoun. She and her hi beans Queens. I love your show and rely on it daily has a correction. Hori in South Carolina is pronounced Ori with a silent H. It's the name of our county and a newspaper, although I agree that Hori News might be more applicable to sycophant Maca loyalists. Please keep up what you're doing. I've included a picture of an egret who was just chilling in the wild. Beautiful photo.
B
In the words of Susan Eddie Izzard, you say Ori and I say Ori.
A
Because there's a fucking H in it. You say herbs and we say herbs.
B
Because there's a fucking H in it. Thank you very much for that soft correction, Beth. I appreciate you. This is from Barry D. Pronounce he and him. I haven't always been a big fan of my adopted summer city of Superior, Wisconsin, but today I was beaming with pride when I drove down the main drag through town as a response to the insanity happening in Florida outside the former Pulse nightclub. I witnessed this group painting a rainbow crosswalk at the corner of 12th and Tower. There are other barricades on the street indicating that there will be several more rainbow crosswalks. In Florida, the police are keeping residents from painting the crosswalks. Easy to wash away by the way chalk is allowed, apparently. But in Superior, you'll find a uniformed police officer helping residents with the paint jobs. For my POD Pet tariff, I'm sharing a recent photo of my grandkiddy, Scarlet Goose, as they are bird watching out the kitchen window. This is really great.
A
High five. Superior, Wisconsin.
B
Yep.
A
Now I want to, like, do a show there. I know right now that I know that it's a friendly place. Look at the baby kitties, Goose and Scarlet. Wonderful. Thank you so much for that. That is really good news, Barry. All right, next up from Deanne Pronoun. She and her after hearing you talk about Twitler's current executive order, I had to share what I've been saying to my husband for the last several months. I think people in his administration, like Pee Wee German Miller, produced these orders to give Trump busy work so he can be on TV and act like a president for his MAGA cult, making it look like he's doing something. This gives those behind the scenes free rein to do their dirty deeds. I hope that makes sense for my podpet tax. Here's Addie, who invades my workspace daily if she believes she's not getting enough attention.
B
Deanne, I agree with you 150%. That's exactly what's happening. They're keeping Grandpa busy and they're fucking everything up behind the scenes.
A
I think so too. Look at these kitties. They're so cute.
B
So cute. All right, this one's from Carol. Pronouns she and her hi, ladies of the Laguminati. I wanted to share some good news and bittersweet news with you and your listeners. First, the good Today, the Utah Supreme Court overturned the Utah GOP redistricting maps and reinstated the original maps. The citizens of Utah voted for this seems more likely a Democratic district for Salt Lake City proper, which is blue but has been divided like a pie by the MAGA gop. This is a win for the Utahns. Yeah, our Utah County Indivisible group had 600 people in downtown Provo for hands off protests and it grew to 4,500 for no kings protests. Lots of horns honking and lone MAGA pickup truck got stopped by the police and given a ticket for driving too slow around the block.
A
Too slow. Chicken Moringo.
B
That's amazing. I'M sponsoring a Ukrainian teenager on the Cancel United for Ukraine program program. It's been almost a year since she's lived with me and she's learned to drive, gotten her license, taken a phlebotomy course, got a job at a hospital and started Utah Valley University to study forensic science. This is awesome. She also applied for a suij visa and the local juvenile judge granted her petition to stay in the United States. Now we just have to go through immigration and hopefully they will grant her a green card. My pop just celebrated his 100th birthday and even though his memory is failing, he still remembers he he doesn't like Trump. It's hard to find me. Finally, bittersweet news. My little dog Laddie passed away last week and I'll remember and miss him every day for the rest of my life. He's on the left and Lulu's on the right. Thank you for all you do and helping us make sense of the senseless. And thank you for the laughs and joy that you bring. What a fantastic submission. Carol, this is really wonderful.
A
Oh, incredible. 100 years old.
B
He looks great.
A
I know, right? And then look at the dogs. Oh, I'm so sorry for your dogs.
B
Truly, truly.
A
That's so great about the maps. I have that in the beans news ready to go for tomorrow's beans, by the way. Nice, but you beat me to it. Carol, you should start a new show. You're ahead of the curve. And, and by the way, when I said Too Slow Chicken Moringo, that's your 80s reference for the day. If you it might be early 90s, but if you can guess where Too Slow Chicken Moringo comes from, you get a prize. I don't know what, maybe a partially used glade air freshener. I don't have much, but Anyway, that's your 80s reference for today. Next up from Jen Pronoun. She and her hi beans Queens. I wanted to share some amazing health care I got at the VA hospital in Lake Nona. Is it Nona or Nona? You'll have to let us know, Jen. That's near Orlando. As a 10 year Navy veteran, I was accustomed to my female health being treated as kind of an afterthought. Yeah, no, right, so. And I wasn't expecting much when I got referred to the women's clinic in Lake Nona. I'm so happy to say I was blown away by the world class care I received there. In about two months, they found, diagnosed and surgically corrected an issue that had been going untreated for 16 years. I spent a few nights in the hospital recovering and every single doctor, nurse, Penns, orderly, pharmacist, everyone I encountered was so wonderful. I felt cared for in a way I've never experienced before. Yep. That is why the VA is the number one large system health service in the world. I know the VA as a whole is facing some tough funding cuts, but the people who are on the front lines caring for veterans through some of their most vulnerable moments are working miracles. They're truly heroes. And I'm so thankful for my pod pet tax. Please have a look at my girl Lexi. She's been curled up next to me through my recovery and she's the best pup bird ever. Thanks for the daily dose of hope. And to all the VA workers out there, thank you.
B
So sweet.
A
Jen, thank you so much for shouting out the VA health workers. They're so very important and amazing and they truly do provide incredible care. Look at the flamingo outfit.
B
It's hysterical. Little tutu.
A
Oh, adorable. Thank you.
B
Right. Okay, this is from Anonymous. Pronouns he and him. Hello, AG and dg. I wanted to shout out a local small business. Propagate Studios in Stewartsville, New Jersey is an amazing art studio that offers a range of creative classes and fun events. The thing that I love most about Propagate is that the studio also doubles as a thrift shop for gently used art supplies.
A
Oh, wow, that's so cool. Because art supplies are so expensive, the.
B
Thrift shops pay what you can policy for the supplies they carry. Really shows how much they value creativity. I recently started focusing more on my artwork again after the Orange Devil lied his way back to the White House. As a way to cope with some of the anxiety, it was nice to buy supplies from Propagate for new endeavors and to donate extra supplies that I had, knowing you'll end up with someone who needs them. For my Podpet tariff, I attached my cat Cheddar, striking his best seductive pose. He may not look like it, but out of our small pack of two cats and two dogs, he's definitely the alpha of the group. Fucking cat. Thank you to the whole crew at MSW for putting together an amazing collection of podcasts. Ag dg. You two are the bravest and badass women in the independence media.
A
Okay, so when with my screen, while you're reading that, I. I can only see the top of the photo. So I can only see the cat's head. Yeah.
B
And then it's just lewd.
A
Then as you scroll down, just lewd. It's him on his back doing a lewd and I love it.
B
So good.
A
Oh, he looks like the. I guess, is he the smartest? Because he doesn't look like he's got much going on behind those eyes. Gotta say. Yep, he's the Easy.
B
My work here is done today, and I'm just gonna relax.
A
I can't wait to be just like that.
B
Seriously.
A
All right. And speaking of can't wait to be doing this. I think I'm gonna go do this. I think I'm gonna go turn on the west wing and go be lewd in your pajamas. Go be lewd and watch that and Roxanne and maybe the show that Too Slow Chicken Moringo comes from.
B
There you go.
A
Anyway, if you have any good news, please, please send it to us. Thank you so much for sending in your good news today. I really needed it. You can send it to us@dailybeanspod.com and click on contact. Dana, do you have any final thoughts?
B
I actually do, but it's not that big of a deal. I just launched my new website we built out for those of you that have been going to my website, and I know that you have because you've been getting tickets there. I just launched my new website. I'm so proud of it. My manager built the whole thing out, so. So this is where you can find my calendar and my dates. It's danagoldberg.com and then there's also all kinds of stuff, like some of the organizations I work for, you can go visit them and donate if you want to. You can see some pictures, and then there's videos, old videos. Just go check out. It's danagoldberg.com. i really love it. And for those of you that had seen the old one, I think you'll notice the upgrade. It's fantastic.
A
It looks so good. I got to see a preview before it was published. When we did this show, when you did your show at Diversionary, and you're like, look, check it out. And we was just absolutely fantastic. I'm so glad it's been launched.
B
Thanks.
A
It's so good, everybody. Check it out. Danagoldberg.com and there's a new episode of Cleanup on Aisle 45 out today with me and Harry Dunn. And of course, Harry is on vacation, but he still came into work to record the podcast. He's in Hawaii.
B
Oh, my God.
A
Yeah, he's. He's in Honolulu. He's staying at the. Well, I'm not gonna tell you where he's staying, but it's.
B
Yeah, we're like, wait, he's at the Four Palms. His Route 64. Go visit him. Knock on door, bring him in a my tie.
A
Yeah, like, maybe I shouldn't do that. But he's having a blast there. But he, he came on, did the podcast. He's like, I love it. I love doing the podcast. So you can check out that episode today. Wherever you get your podcast, clean up on all 45. We'll be back in your ears tomorrow for the Beans. Until then, please take care of yourselves, take care of each other, take care of the planet, take care of your mental health and take care of your family. I've been ag, I've been DG and I'm the Beans. The Daily Beans is written in exactly Executive produced by Allison Gill with additional research and reporting by Dana Goldberg. Sound design and editing is by Desiree McFarlane with art and web design by Joelle Reader with Moxie Design Studios. Music for the Daily Beans is written and performed by they Might Be Giants and the show is a proud member of the MSW Media Network, a collection of creator owned podcasts dedicated to news, politics and justice. For more information Please visit msw media.com msw media.
Episode Title: Too Slow Chicken Marengo
Guest: Mrs. Frazzled (former teacher, host: Teacher Quit Talk)
Hosts: Allison Gill ("AG"), Dana Goldberg ("DG")
Network: MSW Media
This episode dives into a whirlwind of breaking progressive news—legal setbacks for the Trump administration, escalating attacks on federal agencies and democratic institutions, and new threats to immigration and voting rights. Allison and Dana pair their signature snark with deep concern as they discuss the latest developments, before Allison interviews education advocate and viral creator Mrs. Frazzled about the GOP's privatization push and the dismantling of public education. The show closes with hope: listener-submitted good news and community shoutouts.
"Our shared commitment to our country, our oaths of office... compel us to warn Congress and the American people of the cascading effects..." – FEMA staff letter (06:32)
"President Trump purported to fire me for cause when no cause exists under the law..." – Lisa Cook (13:33)
"This concerted effort by the executive to smear and impugn individual judges... is both unprecedented and unfortunate." – Judge Cullen (17:10)
Transition to feature interview with Mrs. Frazzled at 21:45.
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Notable Quotes & Moments:
The episode blends urgent progressive reporting with irreverence, dark humor, and relatable weariness. Guests and hosts deploy wit and sarcasm—often mocking right-wing figures or policies—while still grounding the discussion in policy impacts and social justice values.
Skip the ads and intros—the best meat is in the Hot Notes and the Mrs. Frazzled interview sections.