
Tuesday, September 30th, 2025 Today, the Republicans are poised to shut down the government at midnight as Trump and Kegseth meet with flag officers in Quantico after deploying the National Guard to war ravaged Portland; Portland threatens to evict ICE out of the detention facility over permit violations; the village of Broadview in Chicago has opened a criminal investigation into ICE attacks on a reporter; Obama appointee Judge Simon in Oregon has called for an emergency hearing to consider the restraining order filed to block Trump’s deployment of the National Guard; the ICE agent that slammed the woman to the ground at 26 Federal Plaza has been returned to duty; Eric Adams has dropped out of the New York mayoral race; the FBI has taken over the investigation into the Michigan LDS church shooting; Alex Soros says of Trump’s investigation into the Soros foundation that they would back down over his dead body; Steven Miller played a key role in the attacks on Venezuelan boats; Mol...
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MSW Media hello and welcome to the Daily beans for Tuesday, September 30, 2025 today. All right, deep breath. The Republicans are poised to shut down the government at midnight as Trump and Kegseth meet with flag officers in Quantico after deploying the National Guard to war ravaged Portland. Portland threatens to evict ICE out of their detention facility over permit violations. The village of Broadview in Chicago has opened a criminal investigation into ICE attacks on a reporter Obama appointed. Judge Simon in Oregon has called for an emergency hearing to consider a restraining order filed to block Trump's deployment of the National Guard to Portland. The ICE agent that slammed the woman to the ground at 26 Federal Plaza has been returned to duty. Eric Adams has dropped out of the New York mayoral race. The FBI has taken over the investigation into the Michigan LDS church shooting. Alex Soros, that's the son of George Soros, says Trump's investigation into the Soros foundation. He says they would back down to Trump over his dead body. Stephen Miller apparently played a key role in the attacks on Venezuelan boats. No surprise there. Moldova's pro European Union party has won a decisive victory despite Russian interference and bad money is gonna be playing the super bowl halftime show in February, which is certainly going to piss off a lot of maga. I'm Alison Gill.
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And I'm Dana Goldberg.
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Dana, that might be a new record for headlines.
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It might be. I know we've had some pretty good ones, but yeah, that last story, we're gonna cover it. But I hope Bad Bunny doesn't say one lick of English. Just not any English, all in Spanish. I would love understand half of what he says. So that MAGA gets angry and loses their mind. But he's in pretty. We'll talk about it more during the story. But I actually am very impressed with his integrity about the way he's handled his tour.
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Me too. Yeah, me too. And Charlotte Clymer has written up something about it at Charlotte's Web thoughts on her substack. We're going to report what is out, I think from CNN in the news a little bit later in the show. But there's so much news. And over the weekend, Dana, I covered Ryan Walters, you know, anti LGBTQ libs of TikTok library appointer, just porn addicted a hole stepping down as the Oklahoma school superintendent. I did that on the Midas Touch weekly wrap up, but we didn't talk about it here on the Beans. So I was curious as to your thoughts because he's apparently going to take over as CEO of Like some organization that is just going to try to completely dismantle teachers unions and, you know, shove church down everybody's throat.
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Well, that's what he's trying to do is he's trying to get enough teachers that are anti trans to come onto this organization and wipe out the teachers union. That is going to be a tall feat. I mean, teachers already aren't protected. They don't get the funding they need. You think you're going to convince enough of them to leave a teacher's union when they're not even bigoted assholes like you are to somehow join this organization? So I'm really hoping this thing blows up in his face, but he's out as the superintendent. I do hope they get a better one in there. And I think we covered it. The Republican governor of Tennessee or attorney general, one of them.
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Attorney General.
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Yeah, Even him. He's like, since he's been in there, it's just been drama and antics. And we need someone who is actually gonna. Gonna care about the education of the state, because I'm pretty sure Tennessee is real close to 50th if they're not 50th.
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Oklahoma.
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Yeah, Oklahoma. Thank you. Oklahoma. Good correction there. But Oklahoma, I'm pretty sure is 50th.
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Yeah, they are. And yeah, thank you for the correction.
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Yeah, I just. It's wild to me that he thinks this is gonna be successful, but at the same time, I have been unpleasantly surprised, unpleasantly surprised by some things that have been successful over the last eight months, much less 10 years. But I'm hoping enough people are gonna shut him down.
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Yeah, same. And speaking of shutting down, the government might at midnight tonight, Tuesday, September 30th, if there's no continuing resolution. Again, we've said Republicans can do this without a single Democrat if they change the rules with a simple majority over in the Senate to allow a continuing resolution to be passed with a simple majority. They have the power to do that. So just remember, if they really want to keep the government open, they can do it without us. So don't let anyone tell you that the Democrats shut this down. And, you know, today Hegseth is getting all the flag officers together in Quantico, Virginia, and I don't know, he's gonna have push up contests with him or something and talk about warrior ethos. And then Trump caught wind of the meeting, is like, I want to go. So he's gonna be there. It's gonna be. I don't know what they're gonna do, but we'll keep an eye on that and report and report back to you tomorrow. Also, later in the show, I'll have the second half of the Simon Rosenberg interview from the Hopium Chronicles. So you can look forward to that. All right, we have so much news to get to. Let's hit the hot notes. Hot notes from Politico. Oregon and its largest city, Portland, are suing to block Trump from deploying the state's National Guard, calling it an unconstitutional abuse of power. The lawsuit follows Trump's announcement on social media Saturday. He was ordering the Defense Department to send troops to Portland to use full force if necessary. Remember how, Dana, he wanted to be able to shoot people protesters during the George Floyd protests?
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Yes, I do.
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He wanted to combat protests that he said were interfering with immigration enforcement. Trump described the decision as a result of a request from Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem. Now, lawyers for the state say protests against Immigration and Customs Enforcement have been small and subdued routinely, featuring about 30 people, and that there have been no arrests related to those protests from June until now. During a Sunday morning phone interview with NBC White House correspondent Yamichel Syndor, Trump made some remarks that seemed to indicate he might back off his military plan for Portland. Trump referenced a weekend conversation with Oregon Governor Tina Kotak, and he alluded to being told by Kotak that the reality in Portland is different from what's being portrayed to him. I spoke to the governor. She's very nice. But I said, well, wait a minute. I'm watching things on television that are different from what's happening. My people tell me different. They're literally attacking and there's fires all over the place. It looks terrible. So clearly, Stephen Miller is showing him videos of something else that's not Portland and telling him tall tales to get the Guard deployed. That's what we've been saying is going on. And Trump is, I think my people might be telling me the lies. Okay, well, yeah, now there's a hearing right now as we're recording this in Judge Simon's courtroom, who, by the way, is an Obama appointee and also I think the nephew of the playwright Neil Simon, which is interesting, huh?
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Interesting.
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Yeah. And so he's having an emergency hearing to consider a temporary restraining order, the one that was filed by Oregon and Portland. And we'll let you know how that turns out as soon as we know. But there's another fight between Oregon and the Trump administration. The city office that oversees land use and zoning notified the owner of the building that ice leases that detention facility from, that, that ice has violated a conditional use permit that was approved, gosh, 14 years ago.
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Oh, wow.
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Yeah, Dana, that permit, it limits the number of detainees that ICE can hold at that facility each day to fewer than 15 and the duration for which they can be held to less than 12 hours. The permit also bars ice from housing anyone overnight. The building's landlord has 30 days to correct the violations. There have been many. And if it fails to comply, the city will assess a monthly fee. ICE is allowed to continue operations as the process continues, but they are trying to evict them, so they're pretty mad about that.
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All right. Thanks, Allison. This one's from abc. All the victims have been accounted for in the mass shooting in the arson at a Michigan chapel after a gunman opened fire while hundreds were worshiping on Sunday morning. This is from officials. This is one of several mass shootings, by the way, over the last 48, 30, 48 hours.
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Five over the weekend.
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Five. While that asshole is talking about his solid gold shit in the White House, more people are dying from gunfire.
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Five mass shootings, Dana, none of them perpetrated by far left radicals or whatever.
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Nope. And definitely not trans people. A lot of old white CIS men, actually. Now, four people were killed and eight others injured, officials said at the press conference Monday afternoon. The gunman, this is what we're talking about. 40 year old Thomas Jacob Sanford. He drove his truck into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints in Grand Block, Michigan on Sunday morning and then he started shooting at the congregants and then he set the building on fire. This is according to officials. The gunman was then killed in a shootout with police responding to the scene, law enforcement officials said. A source briefed on the investigation told ABC News that the detectives are urgently working to determine the motive behind the shooting. And I'm surprised Kash Patel didn't put out some sort of engravings on bullets.
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Oh, he's there. He'll come up with something.
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He sure will. During Monday's news conference, Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer cautioned the public to be patient as investigators seek a motive in the shooting. The FBI has taken over the probe, assigning 100 personnel to the investigation. President Trump said he had been briefed on the shooting and the fire, and that's what he said. On social media. He said this appears to be yet another targeted attack on Christians in the United States of America. Now, the gunman had a sign emblazoned with the last name of Donald Trump outside his house. Meanwhile, a family photo posted on Facebook shows Sanford posting alongside his wife and 10 year old son wearing a Reelect Trump 20 T shirt. The shirt from when the first of Trump's two presidencies ended in defeat to Joe Biden carries the logo make liberals cry again. So the motive not determined. The political affiliation Leaning right.
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Leaning right. Right leans Republican.
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Yes indeed.
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All right, next up from CBS the village of Broadview says they've launched a criminal investigation after a CBS News Chicago reporter had a projectile fired at her vehicle by an ICE agent late Sunday morning. Reporter Asal Rezay said there was no active protest or protesters at the facility. She was alone with no one around her at the time. In a report filed with the Broadview police, Rece said she was driving her truck with her driver's side window down While approaching the 25th Avenue entrance to see if any activity was taking place before she was going to leave the area. That's when she said a masked ICE agent who saw her window down shot a pepper ball about 50ft from inside the fence, hitting her truck driver's side panel, causing the chemical agents to engulf the inside of her truck. Broadview Police Chief Thomas Mills responded to the incident in a statement saying the Village of Broadview Police Department has launched a criminal investigation into an allegedly unprovoked attack on CBS Chicago TV news reporter her vehicle by a chemical munition fired from the direction of U.S. immigration Customs and Enforcement Detention Facility. The victim declined medical attention at the time. The Broadview Police Department expects the full cooperation by the U.S. department of Homeland Security into our criminal investigation. So this is good. Local police are investigating attacks on reporters by ice. So glad they've opened this criminal investigation. And this should be a call to all local law enforcement and governors and mayors. You can investigate ICE for assaulting people.
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Yes you can. You are the law enforcement there. And this one's also from cbs. An Immigration and Customs Enforcement officer who was initially relieved of his duties after being captured on video pushing a woman to the ground outside an immigration court in New York City has apparently returned to duty. The move is a striking about face, by the way, just a few days after the DHS released a statement announcing the officer's conduct as an, I quote, unexpectedly acceptable and beneath the men and women of ice. Apparently not anymore. The ICE officer's actions garnered national attention last week after videos surfaced on social media depicting his confrontation with a visibly upset Ecuadorian woman at the 26 Federal Plaza building, which houses Manhattan's immigration court. The officer is then captured on camera pushing the woman to the floor in front of her Children and a crowd of journalists and federal and court officials. The ICE officer is heard saying adios, obviously, or goodbye several times during the altercation.
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Yeah, I covered this on my weekly wrap up. I was like, how many days till he's back on the job?
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Yep, yep.
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So anyway, that whole Trisha McLaughlin statement about this is unacceptable. This is beneath the ice officers. It was just lip service. Yeah. So. All right, next up from the Guardian, Stephen Miller, the White House Deputy Chief of Staff, has played a leading role in directing US Strikes against suspected Venezuelan drug boats. And that's according to three people familiar. @ times, his role has superseded that of Marco Rubio, the actual Secretary of State and National Security Advisor. The strikes on the Venezuelan boats allegedly carrying narcotics, which has not been proven and many stories are coming out that these were fishermen. The administration has claimed these were necessary strikes because interdiction did not work. They've been orchestrated through the Homeland Security Council hsc, which Miller leads as the Homeland Security Advisor. Miller empowered the HSC earlier this year to become its own entity in Trump's second term, a notable departure from previous administrations where it was considered part of the National Security Council and ultimately reported to the National Security Advisor. As a result, the HSC has taken the lead on engaging the Venezuelan boats, a situation evidenced by his top deputy, Tony Salu and others being the gatekeepers to details about what boat to strike until they're about to occur. This was the case, for instance, with the second Venezuelan boat hit with Hellfire missiles on September 15. While the White House was informed the Pentagon had identified the boat as a visible target more than four days before. Many top White House officials only learned of the impending strike hours before it happened. So Stephen Miller, it's another Stephen Miller joint. So he's showing bullshit videos to Donald Trump of fake fires and ravaged war tor in Portland to get the National Guard deployed there. And he's also making shit up to strike these Venezuelan boats that are probably just carrying migrants or fishermen.
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He is such a piece of shit. I tell you what. I mean, I know that everyone wants Donald Trump to be gone, but there are some really bad actors and players in his administration that I would be fine if they went first. Yeah, this one. Eric Adams. Eric Adams has dropped out of the New York City's mayoral race Sunday. I know. Amid escalating pressure to clear the crowded field in a last ditch attempt to stop socialist. Socialist Zoran Mandani's election to City Hall. That would be the mayor.
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And the reason it says socialist is because this was originally broken by The New York Post.
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Oh, got it. I was like, where's the source on this? I guess we were like, we don't even want to give them credit.
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That's why they're calling Democrats or on Mamdani a socialist.
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Okay, that makes sense. Thanks, Ag. I was like, huh? The bombshell move came after weeks of back and forth over whether Adams would bow out of the race, in which he is pulling fourth, by the way, far behind Mamdani and former Governor Andrew Cuomo and also Republican nominee Curtis Sliwa.
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Sliwa.
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Yeah, Sliwa. And I can already say that Sliwa is going to be the next to go. We know that this is a plan to consolidate votes.
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Yeah.
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The mayor noted his campaign's inability to fundraise, taking aim at the city's campaign finance board for repeatedly denying him millions of dollars in matching public funds, which put him at a massive disadvantage compared to his opponents. And I'm sure. I'm wondering if they were like, we don't know what you're going to do with the money. That's the first thing.
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Oh. With Dana, what it is is that you have to raise like, $327,000 on your own or something to get a 5 $1 match. And he couldn't. He lied. Actually, he faked it. Kind of like George Santos did, kind of like Andy Ogles did. And so the Board of Elections was like, you can't have the money. Sorry, bro. And he's like, it's not fair.
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Yeah, they're going to get rid of them very quickly. Curtis is probably the next one to go, so they don't split the vote. And Mamdani's gonna have to work hard. But he still has a lead, a massive lead. And New York is behind him. They're fired up. And I sure hope if it is Cuomo against Mamdani, that these senior Democrats don't drag their heels and just get behind him.
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Yeah, that'd be nice. That'd be real nice. Yeah. All right, next up from the Times. During a panel discussion featuring world leaders and philanthropists in Manhattan on Thursday afternoon, Alex Soros said that the $23 billion philanthropic organization that he leads would not cave to pressures from Donald Trump. Mr. Soros, son of billionaire investor and Democratic mega donor George Soros, who, you know, pays all of our checks. Dana.
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Mine, too. I haven't gotten it, but yeah, yeah.
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He defiantly told attendees. Alex did. That the organization had done nothing wrong and would back away from its human rights work. Quote, over my dead body. That's according to two people who attended the panel who spoke on the condition of anonymity because it an invitation only event. The remarks came in response to a question about a report in the New York Times revealing that a senior Justice Department official had instructed more than half a dozen U.S. attorney's offices to draft plans to investigate the Open Society foundations, which was started by Mr. Soros's father, George Soros. Now, if you happen to have a copy of that memo, I don't think we've seen it. But you. My signal information is in my Blue sky bio. So if you, if you have eyes on that memo, I would love to see it. You could send it to me. I'll keep you anonymous.
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There you go. All right. And this one's from cnn. President Donald Trump on Saturday shared an apparently artificially created video of himself promoting a cure all bed with origins and conspiratorial corners of the Internet. QAnon origins, everyone just gonna call it what it is. The video, which has since been deleted, was intended to resemble a Fox News segment on the show, hosted by the president's daughter in law, Lara Trump, featuring an AI version of Trump promising access to new medical technology. This segment has never aired on the network ever. It was all made up, everyone.
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Do you think he saw it and was like, look at me, how good I look. I'm gonna share this.
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I think at this point, like who? Because I think lots of people run his social media. It's a distraction so someone will get talking about this instead of the Epstein files. And they'd be like, look what he's trying to do. And this is a quote. Every American will soon receive their own medbed card. And this is, by the way, this is what the false rendering of Trump said. With it, you'll have guaranteed access to our new hospitals led by the top doctors in the nation, equipped with the most advanced technology in the world. The med bed conspiracy, everyone. This theory has spread during recent years from QAnon circles. It's a modern manifestation of an older traditional belief, okay. By quack doctors and miracle cures. And it's rooted in a deep distrust of government and medical institutions. It's an idea that this med bed you're gonna lie in and it will cure everything. Everything. And everyone's gonna get a card for this. Not just the rich and the wealthy. Everybody. And the fact that he even shared this, if anyone was believing this, my God, he's insane.
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He's.
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Yes, well, we know that for sure. Yes, he does.
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Yeah. All right, here's Some good news. Moldovans gave the country's pro Western governing party a clear parliamentary majority in a weekend election, defeating pro Russian groups in a vote widely viewed as a stark choice between east and West European. Leaders on Monday hailed Moldovans for reaffirming their commitment to a Western path and a future membership in the EU in the face of alleged Russian interference. The country is small in size and population, but with outsized geopolitical importance. The outcome of Sunday's high stakes ballot was noteworthy considering Moldovan's authorities repeated claims that Russia was conducting a vast hybrid war to try to sway the outcome. Moldova applied to join the EU in 2022 in the wake of Russia's full scale invasion of Ukraine, and they were granted candidate status that year as well. So very small country with a very big stick that they're carrying around there in Europe. And congratulations on, on this. That's what we call a mandate. Donald Trump. Yeah, not, not a one point win, but, but that pro EU party. So that's fantastic. Good job.
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All right, everyone, we're hitting the Super Bowl. This is some more good news that we were talking about. And it's sports, but it's also politics. You'll make the connection, the announcement Sunday that the superstar Puerto Rican rapper. By the way, that is an American area. It's part of the United States. Puerto Rican rapper and singer Bad Bunny will headline the next super bowl halftime show. That marks the second time in a row that the National Football League has co signed an artist who is deemed quote, controvers by some of the league's supporters. I know now, Kendrick Lamar, a rapper from Compton we saw last year, angered some conservative viewers with the political symbolism he utilized. Yeah, but this is the thing. None of them got it until it was pointed out during his performance last February. And it was powerful. And it also, it wasn't for them. A lot of it was for the black community. Intentionally.
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It was so good.
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Yeah. Now, some of the costumes, choreography, and Lamar's lyrics, it referenced systemic inequality and racism in the United States, which is a real thing. And that game, by the way, was attended by Donald Trump. But as I remember, I don't think he even stayed very long. I think he left.
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It might have been nappy time. I can't remember.
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But while Lamar has mostly used his art to express his sentiments, Bad Bunny, he's been more overt about his dissatisfaction with the current administration. In 2024, he endorsed publicly Vice President Kamala Harris in her campaign for the presidency against Donald Trump. He reposted a video of Harris in a speech referencing Trump's leadership during his first term in office after Puerto Rico was devastated by Hurricane Maria in 2017. I'll never forget what Donald Trump did and what he did not do when Puerto Rico needed a caring and a competent leader. That's what Harris, by the way, said in a video. She said he abandoned the island. He tried to block aid after back to back devastating hurricanes and offered nothing more than paper towels and insults. Bad Bunny, whose nonstage name is Benito Antonio Martinez Ocasio, amazing, made the post after comedian Tony Hinchcliffe's remarks at the Trump rally in New York City in which he referred to Puerto Rico, a US Commonwealth, as a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean. Bad Bunny recently told ID magazine that he did not include, and this is what I was talking about earlier, he did not include the continental United states in his 202526 concert tour out of fear that the U.S. immigration Customs Enforcement, that ICE could potentially raid the concert venues. He missed out on millions of dollars to make sure and I know that his fans couldn't see him perform live, but to make sure that people were not grabbed up by ice at his concerts. By the way, Super Bowl 60 is scheduled to take place at Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara, California on Sunday, February 8, 2026. And I'm sure it'll be a very watched show.
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I'll watch.
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Yeah. Even if I just watch the halftime. I'm watching.
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Yeah. Yeah. And like you said, he, he continually performs only in Spanish.
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Yeah.
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So people are going to be real mad. There's going to the, the fuck your feelings crowd is going to be really, really upset and they're going to need a safe space for this.
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They've needed one every single Super Bowl. I can't even remember a Super bowl halftime show that didn't offend them from A million moms or whatever. The mother's Liberty, blah blah blah blah blah.
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Remember Janet Jackson's boob, huh? Yeah. They were all like, that's it. Everyone's going to hell. Yeah.
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Oh my God.
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And Prince and his guitar. Yeah. Oh, with the big. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about.
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Yeah, I do.
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Anyway, quick update for you, Judge Simon. In the Oregon case that I was telling you about, he's convened the parties for a scheduling call on the guard deployment and he just set a Friday hearing at 10am Pacific Time for the restraining order hearing.
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Right.
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The Department of Justice is arguing that the 200 member guard contingent doesn't warrant emergency treatment, that Oregon Contends.
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That's interesting. So they're putting in troops because there's an emergency.
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Yeah.
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And the judge is saying there's no emergency that is necessary for that. Interesting. Okay.
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No, the DOJ is saying.
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The doj. Excuse me.
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Yeah, that's their argument that why there shouldn't be a restrained temporary restraining order, because temporary restraining orders are for emergencies only, and this is only 200 National Guard members. So there's no emergency, but there's totally an emergency.
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Exactly. Thank you for unwinding that from international.
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Yeah, no, you hit the nail on the head. You are exactly right, my friend. That is the dumbest fucking argument it could possibly.
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Didn't you guys send these fucking troops because there was an emergency in Portland? And now you're saying there's not an.
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Emergency for this, there's an emergency, but 200 isn't an emergency.
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Right.
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It's another. It's a different emergency, but our response to the emergency is not an emergency.
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I can't wait to hear these arguments. And I hope the judge is like, what the fuck are you talking about?
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God. Anyway, all right, so that hearing is going to be Friday, so we'll keep an eye on that for you. And then also, everybody, we do have some good trouble today, but it's up first in the good news. But before we get to the good news, you can hear the second half of the Simon Rosenberg Hopium Chronicles interview, which is also available on substack Military road dot com. Stick around. We'll be right back after these messages. We'll be right back. What I think we're seeing here with, you know, standing up to a bully, people are learning. Maybe they didn't believe it at first, maybe they didn't take E. Jean Carroll's word for it that when you stand up to a bully, when you look at him across a courtroom and see nothing more than a small, mediocre man, that is not a threat, and you stand up to him, you can win. We've seen some of the law firms do this. We've seen the Wall Street Journal, believe it or not, hold their ground on the Epstein birthday book. We saw the invasion of Los Angeles and D.C. and then the threats of the invasion to Chicago. But then we saw JB Pritzker stand up and put his foot down and say no. And those didn't materialize to the length that I think that the Trump administration would have wanted that invasion of Chicago to. To materialize into. We saw Kimmel and Disney fight back. And that was an historic night in television. I Cannot tell you, you know, and it's not about the fact that it's Jimmy Kimmel or the content of his monologue, which was great because I happen to agree with what he's saying. But it was that somebody stood up to him and he came back and across platforms got 26 million viewers. Yeah, it was amazing for that monologue and his return. And that's a huge win for free speech. We see the Epstein files with Adelita Grijala winning. Actually, it didn't matter who won in Arizona. Both the Republican and the Democrat were going to be the 218th signature on the discharge petition to release the Epstein files. But Grijalva won 7030. It's a Democratic district, Arizona 7th. She took the last 15 months of the seat that was vacated when her father Raul sadly passed away during complications in cancer treatment. But she won that election. And now we're seeing a panic at the disco in the top echelon of the Republican Party about how are we gonna block the Epstein files. I think they thought it would go away when they all sat down in the Situation Room. They went into the Situation Room, the place where we planned how to take out Osama bin Laden and devised an Epstein plan. And their plan was to go to the court to try to get a 76 page FBI transcript and make sure the court said so that they could blame the courts and then, you know, to keep trying to push back on this Epstein story that is just not going away, which is interesting because they themselves perpetuated it. And so we're there now and we're about to get that final signature. I'm sure there'll be shenanigans, Mike Johnson shenanigans. But that's good news. And also what I like to look at polls are interesting. I like to watch the polls that you get the Simon Rosenberg treatment because they pull out the Tony Fabrizios of the world and the Rasmussen's of the world. But aside from that, we are just smashing elections. Every single election, I think, except for two. Florida 1 and Florida 6 we've won. And in Florida 1 and Florida 6 we made up 12 or 22 points respectively. And to see that, that people power beats money, I think really is a shot in the arm for folks. When we saw what happened in Wisconsin where Elon dumped $25 million and we won there. When we see what happens with Cuomo getting all this money dumped into his race in the mayoral race for New York and Mamdani being so far ahead because he's running on a message of affordability and actually going and talking to the people and finding out what they want and running on what the people want. It's really fantastic to watch and it does give me a lot of hope for, for where we're headed.
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Listen, I think that just in using traditional elections. Right. As a, as a guide and because so much of what's happening is outside of traditional politics right now, you know, we're doing, we've had a great year and we have been overperforming at a very elevated level, almost too high in some ways because it can't really be true. But, you know, we're overperforming at a higher level than we were at this point eight years ago. And we won the midterm elections by 8.6 points in 2018. I was a chief strategist for the DCCC in that cycle when we flipped the House. And so we're actually doing better in local and special elections than we were eight years ago. And it was a blowout win. And so we should be encouraged that assuming we have elections next year and that everything happens, that we're on track to have really good midterms. And I think that the fall elections are all very promising. Abby Spamberger and Mikey Sherrill have sturdy and significant leads, and the California ballot initiative looks very promising. We have to make sure people turn out and vote. I mean, that's a big unknown there. California's had significant drop off in recent elections and turnout problems. New York, you know, is settled in my view, you know, unless something dramatic happens. And so, and then Pennsylvania, I'm optimistic about us retaining those Supreme Court seats. And so, you know, we talk at Hopium about winning the fall. And winning the fall has two pieces. One is winning all these elections and, and hopefully by large margins that make it clear that Trump is being repudiated and this kind of politics is being repudiated. But it's also about winning the debate over what's happening around the budget. Because the, as you pointed out, there's two steps to the budget now, right? There's the continuing resolution, which just gives them more time to go negotiate because so everybody understands fiscal year runs out next on Tuesday and there is no budget. I mean, there's supposed to be a budget. They're supposed to have passed it by now. There isn't any budget. There's nothing to negotiate over. There's nothing. And what the Republicans thought they would do is get what's called a clean cr, which is just create another month or two months for negotiations to happen, but they weren't willing to negotiate over that. And so why did we believe there was going to be negotiations over the budget? Right. Because to pass a budget under the current system, they need seven Democratic votes. And so what's happened is that Schumer and Jeffries decided to sort of accelerate the budget debate by saying, if you want our votes in the cr, these are the things we need, which we were going to ask for anyway. Right. In the end budget negotiation. But people should realize that this budget debate that we're in now is going to be taking place over the next two to three months. There's going to be the initial skirmish over the cross. But, you know, at some point, an actual budget of the United States has to pass. And what's going to be interesting is whether or not there's anything the Republicans can put forward that would get seven Democratic votes or are we going to see them getting rid of the filibuster and passing the budget along a party line vote? Which is, you know, my assumption is that it is, let me say this, it's, I think it's very likely that this debate over the next two to three, four months is going to end up in them getting rid of the filibuster. Because I don't know, I don't know how Democrats can vote for tripling the budget of ICE or for the tariffs or for make your own list of stuff. They've, it's been so extreme. And so, you know, this is why this is a, I think this is a more titanic and big fight. And the fight that we're really in now is not about health care. It's about Trump's betrayal of the country, his failure to deliver for the American people, his failed economic strategy. All of this stuff is all fair game in this coming fight. And I think we've started with healthcare. But my assumption is, Alison, that you're going to see Democrats expanding the attacks on him to include the economy and the threats to democracy. And even if you look at the ads, you often know where a party is based on their ads, not based on whatever they're saying. The DCCC's main ads in the swing districts this week are on a tariffs and affordability, healthcare and shutdown chaos. The DNC ads that have gone up in four state, in three states are about threats to freedom of speech and the First Amendment. So we have ads on the air now that are not just about healthcare, but they're also about affordability and the economy and about threats to Democracy, in my view, that's a welcome development because these are, I think, more where the voters want us to engage based on polling. And we're now sort of going to the place where we have greatest advantage and where he's most vulnerable. So I. I've been very encouraged this week at kind of a nerdy, tactical political consultant, strategist level, that the evolution that I'm seeing in the narrative and story is where I think this needs to go. And it's making us stronger, our arguments, you know, more durable over many months. And that, you know, and. And the point you made earlier is Schumer and Jeffries, you know, are fighting, and. And Hakeem has clearly found a higher gear in the last few days. His public commentary has been. It's organic. It's coming from him. Right. It feels good. I think they're just really happy to be let loose and fighting with this guy. And so what it means for all of you watching today is that we needed to be doing everything we can not only to win these fall elections, but we need to win this big debate with the Republicans about what they're doing to the country. And that debate is now joined, and it's the debate we've all wanted, and now we gotta go win it.
A
I agree. And speaking of the filibuster, I mean, that's what I've been saying all week, is people are saying Democrats are gonna shut down the government. And I said, no, it is 100% up to the Republicans. If they shut down government, the Republicans shut down the government. And somebody said, oh, yeah, but don't you need cloture? Isn't there a filibuster? I said, the Republicans have enough votes to change the rules even if they nuke the filibuster entirely, or maybe they carve it out for continuing resolutions only or whatever. They are in charge of the rules of the Senate, and therefore, if they feel that keeping the government open is crucial, they can do it. They can make it happen. And if the government shuts down, it's because they didn't make it happen. And I want to talk about what you said about assuming we have elections in 2026, because I know a lot of people fear that. But I do have some breaking news for you that I think you'll appreciate. Sinclair is putting Jimmy Kimmel back on the air in its 38 ABC TV stations. Sinclair said in a statement Friday will end its preemption of Jimmy Kimmel Live, and the show will return Friday on Sinclair's ABC affiliates. The September 26th airing of the show is a rerun of Tuesday's show featuring Kimmel's return after ABC suspended him.
C
Well, well, having worked at ABC in my youth and spent a year working for an executive there, dealing with the way that the 200 plus affiliates carry the news every night, this kind of break with the network from Sinclair and nexstar really is unusual, perhaps unprecedented. And it was gonna start raising questions about the overall affiliate relationship, the network. There's really never been anything done like this before that's been so dramatic and without, you know, knowing how this all works. The business side of all this, this was completely unsustainable. And I'm not really surprised that they're, they're capitulating because it would have, you know, I'm sure that ABC and Disney told them that, look, if you don't reaffiliate, if you don't carry the show, we're going to start questioning our broader affiliation with your stations. Right. And the network has a lot more leverage here than people really understand. And so I was a little surprised that Sinclair and nexstar sort of so kind of righteously immediately said we're not going to carry Kimmel because that was, you know, that was, you know, Disney and ABC have, you know, could de. Affiliate and then those stations are effed. Right.
A
Yeah.
C
From a business standpoint.
A
And shareholders were pushing back against this.
C
Yeah.
A
It's another example of people power over money. So many people, so many of us canceled and of course this is about the money for them, but that's because of us.
C
Right, Agreed. Totally agree. And I think that it's a big, you know, we'll see what happens with nexstar. And because they, they were the ones that had that merger. Right.
B
That they were more the tank, the techno merger.
C
Yeah, yeah. That they were more worried about. But we'll see what happens. Look, I think, I think you're right that the, and I love the way that you went through all of the wins and sort of the progress, the way I call it is that what the language I use is that the circle of defiance is growing. Right. And that, and that we need to keep growing the circle of defiance and sort of having awareness that companies like Disney and ABC have a role to play in creating greater defiance and that the movement to defy him has to include civil society organizations, not just traditional political organizations. And I agree with you. And I, and I, you know, I, I haven't written a lot about the Jimmy Kimmel stuff I show I in my writing I put his monologue, but it was really kind of an incredible thing to watch. If you don't mind me just reflecting because you brought it up. Is that about how real it was? We're in it now. We're in it. And I think he almost went down and he came back and he fought. Who knows what really happened? We all did our thing, but who knows what he did internally, you know, and it was a huge win. And he was so. His tone of his monologue was so amazing. He kept it together the whole time. He didn't over, like, dig at people, you know, I think he was, you know, felt fortunate and lucky that this had all kind of worked out. But he's now become a powerful warrior for free speech in our democracy. And who knows? You know, that's the thing, Allison. Right. Is that history calls people and sometimes they answer and sometimes they don't. Right. And Jimmy. Yeah. Look at Zelensky. Look at Jimmy Kimmel. Right. And I would say look at Hakeem and Chuck Schumer are starting. I think they are beginning to step into their own power. Right. And I think that this was hard for them for reasons that we could sit here and debate for three years. Right. But. But it is. It is happening now, and we have to continue to lift people up and encourage them. And one of the things that all of you do, we talk about this with Hopium all the time. You know, you can call your congressional offices and the Senate offices to. To. The line we use is that you have to let them know what's expected of them now. Right. Is that is the way we talk about it. But it's also to thank them. You know, I think it's really important for people to get used to calling their elected leaders when they do things that you're happy about. And they need to hear that, too, you know, and because I do think that part of our job and our movement is to lift people up and not just only tear them down. And I think that, you know, telling leaders that you're grateful for their leadership when they lead, it's an important part, a tactic for us.
B
Yeah. I'll tell them when I think they're.
A
Doing a poor job and when they do the right thing, I'll tell them that I think they're doing the right thing.
C
Yeah.
A
I think positive reinforcement is important. And, you know, you talk about the circle of defiance. I remember I interviewed Miles Taylor about his book Blowback, and he was anonymous when he wrote his op ed and his first book, and he talked about the price of dissent. And he basically brought up an old economics 101 tenet that if you want to decrease the price of something, you have to increase the supply. And when you talk about dissent or defiance, if you're only one or two voices, the price of dissent is very high. But when that circle of defiance grows, the price of dissent goes down. And that's why I think it's so very important that we're seeing a lot of that. We're seeing a lot of fact, core revelations from Christians on the right on TikTok over the last few weeks, especially since Charlie Kirk coming, waking up, so to speak, we're seeing a lot more people. And that, that expansion of the circle of defiance gives people a permission structure, makes it feel safer to come out and dissent and defy what's going on in their government. And I think it's crucial. And I love that you talk about that. And I wanted to, before we get out of here, we're already 10 minutes.
B
Over time, but thank everybody.
C
We can talk all day. We can talk all day.
B
I know, I know.
A
We've never talked before, so this is fantastic. But, but you had mentioned the elections. A lot of people, and I get a lot of folks replying to my social media posts saying it's funny that you think we're going to have elections in 2026 or 2028. Then I point out we've been having elections and we've been winning them by quite a bit. And I like to move forward with the assumption that we will have free and fair elections and that I will be voting in them because I don't want to discourage anyone. People spend on billions of dollars to make us think our vote doesn't matter and to fill us with apathy and to make us roll over and say voting isn't going to matter, there's not going to be an election, et cetera. And so I don't like to spread that message, but I do very much understand people's concerns about it. And I was wondering how you address that.
C
Yeah, you know, I, I'm. The way I address it is evolving a little bit. And I share your concern that people are very flippant about something that's so important and that by raising it, it's sort of demobilizing. I mean, if we don't act every day as if there's going to be free and fair elections and do everything we can to win them, then we won't. Right. And so anything that anybody does that discourages people from doing the work that's required to win these elections this fall or the elections next year by saying, well, what are you doing, Simon? And there's no elections. I mean, you are being as corrosive and damaging as MAGA is when you do that. Right. Because, you know, if we don't do everything we can to win the elections, then we won't win the elections. And so we have to act as if they are going to happen under any circumstances. But I do think that given what's happened in the last few weeks.
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We.
C
Have to take what I think what Trump and Stephen Miller and Kash Patel are saying at face value. And I think that it would be wrong for us at this point in this journey with Trump to do anything other than to take them at face value. And I think that the way I talk about this at Hopium is that his decline and his ebbing powers is what's accelerating and putting energy behind his escalation. That he is literally scared of people now. He's got the military in Washington to make sure he's okay, right. And protected, and that he's fearful of the people. He's become fearful of his decline. He's worried.
B
He's afraid of escalators, Simon, he's afraid of escalators.
C
He's afraid, but he's afraid of that. You know, the guy in the, in the, in the walled castle, he's afraid of the peasants with the pitchforks outside, right? And I think he has become scared because he can't. He's been unable to stop his decline. And polling matters to him. I mean, this stuff. He wants adulation, right? He wants to be liked, he wants to be loved, and he's being hated. The intensity of his opposition now is much higher than where it was eight years ago. And that's the fuel that we're using to do the, you know, the no Kings rallies and everything else. But the way I talk about the election is that I think now that we have to both do everything we can to operate within the traditional political and electoral domain and win and keep prosecuting our advantage. And there needs to start to be the separate conversation about his growing illiberalism and his descent into authoritarianism and ways of mitigating that damage. And one of the things that I've. I'm going to start doing my own homework on is that there has been writing done by people who study this stuff in other countries that when you pre. But that when you start engaging the public in now in the threats to the election and what they might do it actually makes it far less likely that they will actually execute on these plans. Right. Like, and so we now have to start taking this seriously. The way we were talking earlier about the polling is kind of this new information domain. Right. We need to take the question about what is it that they could really do in this highly decentralized, federalized system that we have and to start normalizing it with people that they may try this stuff. And so if it starts happening that they're not. They don't think we're conspiracy theorists. Right. Like, we've, I think we've got educating to do in our own communities and our own public. But to both, by the way, to narrow down what's the realm of the possible. I think there's a lot of kind of conspiratorial. He's just going to cancel the elections. Well, that's not possible. Right. Like there's. So the question is what is possible? And then. And for us to not, you know, neither come at this either. Like anything else, if you want to win, you got to have realistic understanding. You've got to have a strategy and you got to go execute against it. And right now I think we don't have any of that and that we need to develop that. And happy to do that with you in collaboration with you because you're very thoughtful on these matters. But I also think about that because.
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I think we're going to see troops at the polls. We could see. And we won't know which polls that they're going to be at because there's not enough National Guard in the world to go to every poll. I think we're going to see. We've already seen gerrymandering in Texas. We might see it in Indiana.
C
Yeah, there's going to be. What we have to do is we have to go through a process as a family with people that have gone through this in other countries and studied this to create a likely set of scenarios. Like what are the, what's the likely stuff that could happen as opposed to the fear and loathing, right, like, oh my God, they're going to cancel the elections and stuff that's not going to happen. But what could happen. Right. And I think that part of what I was, I was listening to you is that one of the things that people need to realize is one of the most powerful things that we have tools that we have is early voting. And it's why everyone has to vote early. If you have the luxury of voting in any of these states this year, you need to vote as early as you possibly can for two reasons, right. One is. Yeah, mail or in person. I mean, I prefer to vote in person. It's my own preference, but that everyone has. I just feel like I watch it happen and I just feel good about it. Right. And. But there are two reasons why the early vote matters so much. One is that it makes it much harder for them to disrupt voting on election day if 60, 65% of the vote has already come in. Right. And, and the second reason why is that the way politics works, elections work, is that when you vote early, the campaigns know that you voted early. They don't know how you voted, but they know that you voted. And then you come off the GOTV roles. And what it means is that they can now move on to lower propensity voters faster. And when they do that, that increases the number of Democrats that vote. So voting early actually increases turnout and makes it more likely we win. And so for those of you watching and listening today, or when you get to this, this, it's critical that for those of you who are living in Pennsylvania, California, New Jersey and Virginia, that you vote as early as you can, whether it's the day the mail ballot comes, or if you prefer to do it in person, do not wait, do it as early as you can.
A
I have a third reason for you, too. Because Donald Trump controls the mail, so you want to get it in as early as possible.
C
There, there's a way, the reason that they, that I think that Trump has been so antagonistic to this expansion of, of voting, which happened, you know, in where it's. We've made it much easier for people to vote in America because we know from data, by the way, that one of the biggest inhibitors to voting was just people working on Election Day. Right. It was just, I mean, honestly, it wasn't intent. It was that they just couldn't make it fly. They got kids, they got a job. Right. Everything else. And you would be shocked with how much of a factor that is actually in people not voting.
A
No, I mean, it's the difference between the 2020 and the 2024 election. It would be easier to vote in 2020 because of COVID and because 30 states had mail in voting that didn't have it before. And we saw the difference. When it's easier to vote, it's much better for, you know, for the, for, for our side.
C
Yeah. And so to your point is that. But it's just very important that we have to recognize that using the system to vote early, because the Other thing that happens, by the way, is that it means that if anything were to happen on election day, some kind of intervention, an attack, anything, right. There's a massive amount of vote that's already come in that can't be wished away. And so I think that Trump really, I think he came to this kind of attack on the system. One is it because he felt it benefited us, but the other reason is that it made it harder for him to manipulate election day voting. And because most countries don't have the kind of early vote stuff that we have, everyone is small countries. This all go vote one day, Right. And I think that, look, I will end with this, is that I think that we're going to come to know in future years that Trump's relationship to Putin was a mentor and student, he was a Padawan to. To the Jedi Putin, that Putin coached him and schooled him and how to do what he's doing, because he's been too. Because Donald Trump is an idiot and he's. And he's crazy and he's been too good at this. And I think that he's gotten coaching. And I think that one of the things that he and Putin talk about is this crazy election system that we have where people have all these alternative ways of voting other than election day, because it's much harder for an autocrat to control the elections if everyone votes in person on one day. And so I do think it's been. It's a sort of. There's dark reasons, I think, also why, you know, that he's pursued this path in attacking and undermining our election systems. But, yeah, I think I really appreciate that question because this comes up a lot in the Hopium world and about sort of how do we handle this threat to democracy? And I think we have to view it as just another element of the broad threat that he represents to our democratic system. It's just one piece of it.
A
It's an obstacle that has to be negotiated. Yeah, we've long seen voter suppression from the right and we've negotiated it. We're already down seven points on the general ballot just because of gerrymandering in this country. So we've long seen it's just on steroids now because the party in power has these big, huge levers that they can try to pull to impact it. But, yeah, it's just an obstacle that needs to be negotiated. And if we know those obstacles ahead of time, right, it's far more likely that we can negotiate them with some steel and alacrity. And effulgence and success. Yes, and success. It's been amazing talking to you, my friend. I hope we get to do this again sometime. And I want to thank everybody who's been listening. If you get a chance, please subscribe to the Hopium Chronicles. It's well worth that little bit of sunshine in your inbox. And you know, Simon gives it to you straight, too. It's not just all, you know, rainbows up your, you know. And also if you get a chance, subscribe to my substack Mueller. She wrote there's sometimes breaking down of legal analysis. Sometimes I actually get some scoops from some folks inside the federal government, like Ghislaine Maxwell's Bureau of Prisons point screen that I was able to report. She got that sex offender waiver stuff like that. So we really look forward to communicating with you and growing these communities and like you said, and growing the circle of dissent. So we really appreciate everybody being here. Do you have any final thoughts?
C
No, just thank you. It was great to hang out with you. I've been a follower of yours for so long and just appreciate all the work that you do and it was just fun to come hang out today and chat and thanks everybody for joining us and being part of this. We, you know, we need to go win the fall together and we need to make this, we need, our goal should be together to have the story of the end of the year of politics, be that the tide has begun to turn against Donald Trump and maga. And can we do it? Well, let's go try as hard as we can.
A
Yep. Win the Fall. And I look forward to working with you on a project 2026.
C
Yeah.
A
Thank you so much.
C
Thanks, everybody.
B
Thanks.
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We'll see you next time. All right, everybody, welcome back. It's time for the good news. Who likes good news? Everyone? Then good news, everyone.
B
Good news.
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B
Very nice. I'm gonna be happy to be in Minneapolis that day. So I'm gonna see if I can find the no Kings in Minneapolis.
A
Dude, Minneapolis is seriously. It's one of my top three cities. I love Minneapolis.
B
Oh, it's fantastic.
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So very much so. All you gotta do is send all that to us, attach your photo, and you're set. And you can do that@dailybeanspod.com and click on contact. A little bit of good news. Our special report on Andy McCabe speaking out for the first time on the Unjustified podcast on MSW Media. It's almost got 700,000 listens on Midas YouTube channel. So I'm just so heartened that there's that many people out there that care about what Andy McCabe has to say in the face of the Comey indictment. And Nicole Wallace actually played clips of our Unjustified podcast on msnbc. Today. I got a bunch of notifications letting me know that our little MSW media podcast was. Was featured on msnbc. So very cool. Very cool. So thanks to everybody for supporting us because it's this is this kind of stuff happens because of you. All right. Our good trouble is up first and it comes from Dana Plea. I hope I'm saying that right. Pronoun she and her. I'm a co leader of a red wine and blue local trouble nation group. I love this. We are called the mainline good troublemakers. We do a monthly educational meeting either focusing on education, LGBTQ + rights, women's rights, immigration or democracy related topics. We also do at least one in person event every month and that may be a protest, poster making, crafts for democracy, community support efforts, a self care event, or just dinner out to be in the community. This group has been a lifesaver for me and it's so empowering to be actively dissenting against this crazy authoritarian takeover. I discovered your podcast three months ago from Jess Craven who does chop water, carry, carry wood, chop wood, carry water, chop wood, chop the water, carry the wood. Anyway, it's a very very fantastic substance and she says I've not missed a day since I started listening. Dana, thank you so much. I love this. You and Dana are a dynamic duo and I feel so informed and supported every time I listen to your podcast. So thank you for all you do. I would highly recommend that anyone needing a community to look in your area for the local Trouble Nation group. We'll have a link in the show notes where you can look it up. Women Empowering women is the key to fighting this My pod pet tariff is our nine year old, very quirky Weimaraner named Adie who keeps us on our toes. She loves the water and makes me walk three to four miles a day and is the most human like pet we've ever had.
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And we love oh my God, she's so cute.
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Look at the doggles.
B
Weimaraners are so cute and photogenic and they like to pose for pictures and they're amazing.
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They're hams. Yeah, hamming it up for the camera. Amazing. Thank you so much Dana and welcome to the Laguminati. We're glad to have you.
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Absolutely. All right. From MK in Colorado Pronouns she and her the comment on John Figelsang's hair had me laughing. I'm in my happy place, a cabin near Durango, Colorado and reading John's book. In my head, it's his voice at 1.5 speed as that's how I listen to the daily beans. I have a list of people I need to buy copies for. It's that good for my pod pet tax. There's a picture of Fergus who is experiencing a blazing fire for the first time. Perhaps I should send it to Susan Collins so she knows what concerned actually looks like. For Fergus is a cockapoo. No mystery there. Fergus is frickin adorable.
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He definitely looks concerned.
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He's like excuse me mom, the wall's on fire.
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Oh my God. I love this cabin. I love the woods. I need a Cabin. I need to go to a cabin. Mk.
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Yeah, me too.
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I love that you listen to it, that it's in your head at 1.5 speed because that's how you listen to John on the Daily Beans. It is a fantastic book and I love that he made the bestseller list without going on a single corporate media outlet. All right, next up from Amy Pronoun. She and her dear ladies of the beans. Honestly, I just love listening to your show. I know everyone says it, but I will say it too. Today, I'd like to share a little story about my dad. Pretty much everyone that knew him fell in love with him and I could only agree. He was the best and a little complex. After being married to my mom for 25 years, he finally came out of the closet. Somehow my parents navigated their divorce and they remained best friends until he passed away from dementia related sickness just a few years ago. I'm so sorry, Amy. An amazing example of what the work of love really means. Wow. Somewhere during that divorce, he wrote his doctorate thesis entitled Resallying Kids. Resilience of Queer Youth in School Kids is spelled Q I D S. It was a groundbreaking work, requiring a new set of vocabulary to encompass the concepts that he researched. He researched the journey of 10 kids and they're coming out and the role that the school played in it. It was a tremendous piece of work that remains painfully relevant 20 years post publication. After he passed, my husband ran the entire PDF through a graphics program. All pre AI folks. He fixed the typos and made it all beautiful so I could publish it into a blog for the world to read. In these days of hateful voices, here is a story of love and understanding for the entire LGBTQIA community, written for them and all those who would be their allies. For my POD Pet tariff, we'll have a link in the show notes. By the way, for my Pod Pet tariff, I'm including two pictures. One with my dad having a quiet moment with Serendipity, his friend, and Cuddlebum during the last years of his dementia. After he'd gotten to the point where he could no longer walk in the other one, he is getting ready for a walk in my yard. It was a cold day and since he always took his friend along, Serendipity had to be dressed for the weather as well. Fond memories that will last a lifetime. Keep up the good work, AG and dg. Keep your heads up and your hearts strong. Oh, Amy, thank you so much for this. I needed that today. I needed to hear that this is Very sweet. Look at the pup.
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I know.
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Oh, oh, wait, no, it's a stuffy. Oh my God, I love this.
B
Yeah, it's a stuffy monkey. I think.
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Serendipity Cute.
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Cute. All right, thank you. Next up we've got Katie Pronoun. She and they. Hi, Beans buddies. I've been pretty overwhelmed for a while now and it's felt like there's nothing to look forward to. Everything is more expensive. Plus home car repair expenses have led to pretty much just staying home. I tucked my part through an overnight trip, so I have some good news from that. We moved to Indianapolis over a decade ago and never made it to Holiday World Amusement park in Santa Claus. Santa Claus, Indiana, about three hours away until last weekend. On the way down, we stopped at the Tasty Plate Cafe in Morgantown, IndiaPopulation 998 in 2024 and had some wonderful vegan food. We stopped in Bloomington, Indiana and grabbed some vegan donuts, then passed through Lagudi, Indiana. Lagudi, Indiana, population 2,600 in about 2024 on our way to Jasper, Indiana. 16,000. Almost 17,000 people there, where we stayed 30 minutes north of the park. Jasper was lovely. Our hotel was along a small river with a park that had historic buildings and scenery. We had an amazing vegan burrito bowl at a place called Retro Mexican. Then we went to Holiday World for bonus twilight hours, including with our Sunday ticket shout out to vegan options even in small towns.
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Yeah, I was gonna say, this is so cool that there's all these vegan options in these tiny little towns in Indiana.
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The park was fun, we had a nice time, but that's not really why I wanted to write in. One of the things my partner and I were planning to watch for was Trump stuff. Since we were driving out of the city. We saw one shirt on a boy too young to vote when we were at the park and that's it. No yard signs, bumper stickers or anything. I feel like that's a bit of a win. Anyway, back to sitting at home playing video games I already own for a while. For my pod pet tariff, I'm sending Liara and Varric, who I have sent before. Oh my God, they're very cute. Liara is the spotty one that my friend says looks like she has a dick and balls mark on her face. She does. Named after Liara Tsoni from Mass Effect and Varrick, a flame point Siamese named after Varric Tethras from Dragon Age. We adopted them from the same shelter as adults. Liara varrick cats. Hashtag liaraverraric cats is the most socials, if you're interested.
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Oh, my gosh.
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In most socials. Liara, varic cats.
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L, I, a R a V A R, R, I c. Cats. Look at the babies.
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I know.
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Yeah, that's a dick and balls right there on the face.
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Sure is. I gotta say things I have never said before, by the way.
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Yeah, nope, nope. You've never had. I'm sorry. My plastic surgeon said I can't do any activities where balls fly at my face.
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Well, there goes your social life. All right.
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Sorry. A little bit of a. What movie is that? What is that?
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There you go.
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All right. Next up from Preston, pronouns, he and him. This shout out goes to my wife Michelle as We celebrate our 20th anniversary today. She's also most likely listening as she gets ready to head off to work at a local Montessori school. My wife has been an amazing partner and mother to our two teen boys. Some months back, Michelle had me spotlighted on the shout out after dealing with a major heart attack. I remember this. She truly has been by my side and overwhelmingly supportive through all of this. And I couldn't have been able to recover the way I have without her support. Her heart, on the other hand, remains constantly full of love and compassion for others. Michelle passes this love onto her students and all whom she meets. I know she will continue to keep me healthy and Strong. To celebrate 20 more years and beyond for my pod pet tax, I'm including a picture of Michelle during the no Kings march in San Diego. We were very fortunate to march a short distance with a local celebrity. The second picture is Michelle with our two boys on their first cruise this past spring break. Lastly, these are our two cats, Scout and Goose. Oh, my goodness. Look who.
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Oh, my gosh. Look at who it is. Nice celebrity sighting.
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It's me. I remember cutie pie. Preston and Michelle. Yep, I got. Look my boots on. I'm very kind of. Look at that. Left wing militants that I'm.
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I love it.
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Portraying. Look at this beautiful family photo. Oh, my goodness. Gorgeous. Raising a couple of amazing people there, y'. All. Michelle and Preston, thank you so much for that submission. I love that.
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Yes. This next one's from Adrian, pronounced she and her. The tinfoil hat originates from 1927 Short story by Julianne Huxley titled the Tissue Culture King.
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Okay. I knew one of our listeners would know the origin.
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Yep. Some say it's shaped is based on a party hat shape. But my tinfoil hat theory is that it looks like A Phrygian. Phrygian. Phrygian hat. Phrygian hat. What the Smurfs wear, which has a larger history representing liberty in America. Example images are included, but I suspect the reality is it's the easiest shape to make after wrapping your head in tinfoil and then squeezing it to fit your head.
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Yeah, that's probably the truth.
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Funny.
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Oh, there we have an example, like of a Smurf hat. Phrygian cap. Okay. Wow. See? Brilliant listeners. I knew they would know. If I ever have a question, I just need to ask it on here, Dana, and we'll have an answer the next day.
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Well, yes, we will.
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That's how amazing it is. All right, you guys, thank you so much for sending in your good news. Please send us all of your good news and you can do it@dailybeanspod.com and click on contact. By the way, Dana, we've got a ton of people donating free one year premium subscriptions to the amazing. Yeah, people are so thoughtful and giving. So if you can't swing becoming a patron and supporting us. Patreon.com millershiro, you can go to dailybeanspod.com and click on Patrons helping patrons and get your name on a list to receive a donated one year premium subscription. So you get the shows ad free and early and all that. And it's. I think it's like 36 bucks for a whole year. If you want to donate one, that's also where you do it. Patrons helping patronsailybeanspod.com and you just scroll down to see to where that thing says patrons helping patrons and click on it. We've had thousands of donated one year subscriptions.
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I love to hear that. That's wonderful.
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That's how amazing people are. And thanks for everybody for coming out to the patrons, for coming out to Harry's birthday happy hour this past Friday. We had a blast. And Harry says thank you very much for being there. So that was thus patrons of Cleanup or the Daily Beans. That's all I've got for today. It was a lot of news. Thanks for hanging in there with us to go through it all. It was a lot and it's going to be a lot tomorrow. I don't see it letting up anytime soon. So y' all are amazing and resilient and incredible. So thank you for listening and thank you for being there. Dana, do you have any final thoughts?
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Not today.
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All right, we'll be back in your ears tomorrow. Until then, please take care of yourselves. Take care of each other, take care of the planet, take care of your mental health and take care of your family. I've been aging, I've been dietschy and them's the beans. The Daily Beans is written and executive produced by Allison Gill with additional research and reporting by Dana Goldberg. Sound design and editing is by Desiree McFarlane with art and web design by Joelle Reader with Moxie Design Studios. Music for the Daily Beans is written and performed by they Might Be Giants and the show is a proud member of the MSW Media Network, a collection of creator owned podcasts dedicated to news, politics and justice. For more information, please visit MSW Media. Com MSW Media.
This episode of The Daily Beans jumps right into a whirlwind of breaking political news—a looming government shutdown, escalating confrontations over the National Guard’s deployment to Portland, efforts to evict ICE, fallout from mass shootings, political shifts in New York, and international intrigue. “Winning the Fall,” the episode’s core focus, is explored at length with progressive strategist Simon Rosenberg, who shares detailed insight on Democratic wins, the evolving political landscape, GOP authoritarian maneuvers, and crucial strategies for defending democracy heading into the crucial fall elections.
The trademark Beans blend of breaking news, sharp analysis, snarky commentary, and a hopeful “good trouble” spirit drive the episode throughout.
Government Shutdown Imminent: Republicans are set to shut the government at midnight as negotiations stall. AG and DG stress that Republicans, controlling Senate rules, can keep government open without Dems.
Portland on Edge: Trump, with aide Pete Hegseth, visits Quantico after deploying the National Guard to Portland, framing small protests as war zones—AG notes: “Stephen Miller is showing him [Trump] videos of something else that’s not Portland and telling him tall tales...” [06:21]
ICE Under Fire: Portland attempts to evict ICE over permit violations; ICE agent who assaulted a woman returns to duty amid public outrage.
Violence & Investigations: FBI leads probe into a Michigan LDS church shooting by a Trump supporter; criminal investigation launched into ICE agent firing a chemical projectile at a CBS reporter in Chicago.
New York Politics Upheaval: Eric Adams drops from mayoral race, while Zoran Mamdani surges ahead; election financing scandals detailed.
International Beat: Moldova’s pro-EU party wins in spite of Russian meddling.
Super Bowl Halftime Storm: Bad Bunny announced as next performer, expected to spark right-wing outrage for his political stances and insistence on performing only in Spanish.
“I hope Bad Bunny doesn't say one lick of English... so MAGA loses their mind.” —Dana, [01:45]
Bad Bunny’s selection—politically potent, following Kendrick Lamar’s controversial performance. DG highlights Bad Bunny’s conscious exclusion of US tour stops over ICE fears:
“He missed out on millions of dollars… to make sure that people were not grabbed up by ICE at his concerts.” —Dana, [23:23]
“He continually performs only in Spanish… the ‘fuck your feelings’ crowd is going to be really, really upset.” —AG, [24:21]
Main Theme: How to “win the fall”—by both winning the coming elections and defeating GOP authoritarianism in the battle for the country’s future.
"Growing the Circle of Defiance": Rosenberg and AG focus on building momentum, citing Jimmy Kimmel’s return after network censorship as proof of people power:
“The circle of defiance is growing… companies like Disney and ABC have a role to play in creating greater defiance.” —Simon Rosenberg, [39:33]
Democratic Overperformance and Hope:
“We are just smashing elections. Every single election, I think, except for two—Florida 1 and Florida 6—we’ve won. And in those, we made up 12 or 22 points... People power beats money.” —AG, [29:50]
Framing the Fight:
“The fight we’re really in now is not about health care. It’s about Trump’s betrayal of the country, his failure to deliver… his failed economic strategy. All of this… is fair game in this coming fight.” —Simon Rosenberg, [34:10]
Budget Battles & Filibuster:
“It’s very likely… the debate over the next two to three months is going to end up in [Republicans] getting rid of the filibuster… Democrats can’t vote for tripling the ICE budget or tariffs. They’ve been so extreme.” —Simon Rosenberg, [33:29]
Importance of Early Voting:
“One of the most powerful tools we have is early voting. If 60–65% of the vote is in before Election Day, it’s hard for them to disrupt it. And as soon as you vote early, the campaign moves to lower-propensity voters, which boosts turnout.” —Simon Rosenberg, [49:39]
Addressing Fears of Election Theft/Authoritarian Moves:
“Anything that discourages people from doing the work to win elections—by saying ‘there’s no election’—is as corrosive as MAGA… We have to act as if they’re going to happen and do everything we can to win. And we need a conversation about the real, not imagined, threats.” —Simon Rosenberg, [45:59]
Sharp, irreverent, and energized—a blend of progressive hope, political wariness, and righteous snark. While the stakes are high and the news at times grim, both hosts and guest refuse despair, continually urging action, solidarity, and a focus on what everyday people can do to “win the fall”—both at the ballot box and in the public square.
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