The Daily Blade: Episode #246 – Kyle Thompson // What It Comes To

Podcast Hosts: Joby Martin & Kyle Thompson
Date: December 10, 2025

Episode Overview

In this episode, Kyle Thompson explores the unexpected depths of biblical truth found in unconventional worship music. Focusing on the song "What It Comes To" by the ska punk band The O.C. Supertones, Kyle aims to broaden traditional notions of worship, emphasizing that God’s truth can be found and celebrated in diverse musical genres. This episode zeroes in on verse three of the song, unpacking its line-by-line scriptural references and lessons for Christian living.

Key Discussion Points & Scriptural Insights

1. Challenging Worship Music Stereotypes

• Kyle Thompson:
  • Begins by addressing men who may not resonate with contemporary worship music, noting it's "not optional" to sing to God.
  • Argues for a broader definition of worship music, illustrating it with non-traditional genres like ska and punk.
  • "People that like those genres seem to really like them. And believe it or not, there are bands out there like the OC Supertones that cram a bunch of biblical truth into their songs." (00:42)

2. A Deep Dive Into The Lyrics (Starting ~01:30)

Kyle systematically dissects verse three of "What It Comes To," highlighting its rich theological themes and scriptural grounding.

a. Spiritual Struggle

• Lyric: "It's me against my desires and inclinations."
• Theme: The inner battle against the flesh.
• Scripture: Romans 7:15 – "For I do not understand my own actions. For I do not do what I want, but I do the very thing I hate."
• Kyle:
  • "This is the battle between our old sinful tendencies and our new spirit as a believer in Jesus." (01:50)

b. Refining Through Trials

• Lyric: "Pass through the fire into salvation."
• Theme: Purification and sanctification through adversity.
• Scripture: 1 Peter 1:7 – Our faith tested by fire.
• Kyle:
  • "Throughout our Christian walk, we will be tested. We will face trials by fire that will purify us..." (02:15)

c. Ministry and Spiritual Provision

• Lyric: "Bring water to the thirsty like irrigation."
• Theme: Providing for spiritual needs.
• Scripture: John 7:37-39 – "If anyone thirsts, let him come to me and drink."
• Kyle:
  • "This is the call for Christians to bring spiritual water to those who are spiritually thirsty." (02:40)

d. God as Our Strength in Battle

• Lyric: "When you go toe to toe, you don't go one on one."
• Theme: Relying on God, not ourselves, in spiritual battles.
• Scripture: Exodus 14:14 – "The Lord will fight for you, and you have only to be silent."
• Kyle:
  • "As men, we don't really like this that much because we want to rely on our own strength, but that's just not really enough..." (03:05)

e. Substitutionary Atonement

• Lyric: "But Christ in my place in substitution."
• Theme: Foundational Christian doctrine: Christ’s atoning sacrifice.
• Scripture: 2 Corinthians 5:21 – Jesus became sin for us.
• Kyle:
  • "I bet you didn't think you'd get a line about substitutionary atonement from a Ska Punk song, but, boom, there you go." (03:30)

f. Propitiation

• Lyric: "Showed me his grace's propitiation."
• Theme: Christ as the satisfying sacrifice.
• Scripture: Romans 3:25 – Christ as propitiation by his blood.
• Kyle:
  • "Christ's sacrifice paid our sin debt, which is a debt that we could not pay, and he did so in full." (03:55)

g. The Defeat of Satan

• Lyric: "Heard the devil laugh and he thought he had won."
• Theme: Satan’s false triumph.
• Scripture: Genesis 3:15 – Prophecy of Jesus crushing the serpent’s head.
• Kyle:
  • "This is Satan thinking that he's won, right? But good triumphs over evil." (04:16)

h. The Resurrection

• Lyric: "But then came the comeback, the resurrection."
• Theme: Christ’s victory over death and the core of the gospel message.
• Scripture: 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 – Christ's death and resurrection according to the Scriptures.
• Kyle:
  • "This is the sweetest biblical truth of them all, which is that Christ died and was resurrected." (04:40)

3. Key Message and Encouragement

• Kyle:
  • Marvels at the depth of scriptural truth found in just one verse of a single song.
  • Challenges listeners to expand their view of worship music.
  • "So the next time someone says that you can't get anything from worship music unless it's ccm, remind them that What It Comes To by a ska punk band, the O.C. Supertones, still exists." (05:10)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "Singing to God is not optional. My goal is to broaden what counts as worship music." — Kyle Thompson (00:24)
• "I mean, guys, look at all the scriptural truth and that's just from one verse of a single song." — Kyle Thompson (05:00)
• "Remind them that What It Comes To by a ska punk band, the O.C. Supertones, still exists." — Kyle Thompson (05:13)

Important Timestamps

• 00:20 — Kyle introduces the week’s theme: worship music outside the norm, focusing on biblical depth in ska punk.
• 01:35 — Begins line-by-line breakdown of the lyrics.
• 02:15 — Expounds on purification and trials.
• 03:05 — Discusses reliance on Christ in spiritual battles.
• 03:30 — Highlights substitutionary atonement.
• 03:55 — Explains propitiation.
• 04:40 — Celebrates the resurrection as the core of Christian faith.
• 05:10 — Summarizes the point: worship can be found in unexpected places.

Conclusion

This episode encourages believers to seek biblical truth beyond traditional boundaries, recognizing that powerful theological messages can be hidden in unexpected musical genres. Kyle’s breakdown of "What It Comes To" not only deepens scriptural understanding but also empowers men to worship more expansively and discerningly.

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