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You're listening to Comedy Central. Yo, yo, what's going on out there, everybody? My name's Asher Womack. Stand up comic and writer for the Daily Show. And today you are listening to this edition of the Daily Show. Behind the show and we got our illustrious illustrious six correspondent, Mr. Charlamagne. Nagai.
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Ashton Womack. What's up, brother? Are you related to Bobby?
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No. You know, it's very interesting. Black people, they go Bobby Womack. White people, they go astrocutcher. And I'm like, no, just broke. Just broke.
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You're not broke. You're just in between blessings.
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Yeah, and also, I'm not broke. For real.
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Yeah, you're not broke. You're right on the Daily Show. You're not broke.
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Cut it out. But yeah, no, today we're discussing important topic this week. I don't know if you guys have been online. Trump is the president. He is now the president. I don't know if you've seen, if you're finding out from this podcast. Damn, dawg. What have you been on welcome Home.
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Using solitary confinement for the past 20 years?
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That's right. I hope your ass is not Mexican. Cause you are getting deported.
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No, can't say welcome home to you.
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But Trump is president. And for some odd reason, people, when the inauguration happened, people weren't mad at Trump. They seem to be mad at rappers Snoop Dogg and Nelly in particular. And if you saw online, Charlamagne addressed this, and that's what we're talking about on this week's episode of the Daily show with Charlamagne. Why? There was anger where people chose to direct their anger. They weren't angry at Donald Trump. They were angry at rappers.
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The first week of Trump 2.0 is almost up. And one thing is clear. Some of y'all are not gonna make it through four years. Okay? Because you could barely handle these last four days. That's right. People are losing their whole damn minds and it's causing them to lash out at the wrong targets.
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Snoop Dogg, Nelly are facing backlash right now. After performing at Donald Trump's inauguration party.
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Today, fans took to X to express.
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Their anger with one user saying that they no longer respected the artist for participating.
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Snoop performing during Trump's inaugural weekend.
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Not this Snoop Dogg.
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Yeah, everyone's talking about Snoop and Nelly. I knew Trump would take America backwards, but I didn't think it would be the 2003 people. Please stop wasting your energy attacking old school rappers. The only thing they did wrong is inspiring. Mark Zuckerberg's new look. Yeah, he looks like Flavor Flav if the flavor was mayonnaise. Yeah. Look, man, the reason people are mad is because back in 2017, Snoop denounced artists who played Trump's first inauguration. But in his defense, you think Snoop remembers 2017? Snoop has burned more trees than the LA wildfires.
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Charlamagne, what's your take on this? Why did that upset you that people were angry at rappers?
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I just think it's silly, and it just shows how unserious we are as a country. And, you know, we tend to put everything on the same scale, but then we actually, you know, make things that are heavier, lighter, and things that are lighter, heavier. And, I mean, I think it's just that train of thought is what got Donald Trump in the White House in the first place, because, you know, Snoop Dogg, Rick Ross, Nelly, Soulja Boy, performing at a crypto event, Inauguration weekend, that is inconsequential. You know, I think that the energy should be directed towards the elected officials, the Democrats who called Trump things like a fascist, who said he was a threat to democracy, who likened them to Hitler. But then soon as the election was over, they were like, welcome home. Literally, President Biden was standing in front of the White House saying, welcome home. President Obama was at President Carter's funeral just showing all his teeth, laughing with Donald Trump. And I'm like, as a voter, that confuses the hell out of me. Right? It confuses the hell out of me because when I see Republicans say something about Democrats, they stand on it. You saw Senator Fisher's husband. I think his name is Bruce Fisher. He didn't even shake the VP's hand. You understand what I'm saying? 100%. When Donald Trump said the Democrats stole the election in 2020, he acted like it. He didn't go to the inauguration. He didn't do no peaceful transfer of power. He's still saying to this day that the election was stolen. And I think, you know, when it comes to political optics, you know, that goes a long way with voters, especially their base. And I think, you know, with Democrats, it's the complete opposite. It makes what should be their base look at them and be like, what do they even believe? Yeah, who are they?
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Yeah, it's like, oh, I'm not even. Not only am I with the losing team, my team can't even lose.
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Like, my team don't even stand on business.
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Yeah. And to your point about, like, Republicans, they stay on. They. They stay on their messaging. They. They. Democrats are like, yeah, they ignore that they called him a Hitler. They ignore that they call him A fascist. Meanwhile, Republicans are still like, obama's a Muslim. He's a Muslim. He's.
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That's right.
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Just nowhere tied to the truth. But they still, even in, like, Lost, they still stick with their little lives.
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And we've seen it every single time. When President Obama won in 2008, they kept that same energy his whole first term. When he won again in 2012, they kept that same energy that whole second term. When President Biden became president elect in 2020, they kept that same energy. They filed articles of impeachment on him on the first day. So it's just like, I just wish for once Democrats would treat Republicans the way they treat them. And I know people say things like, oh, that's just politics. That's just the political norm. And like I said on the show, politics haven't been normal since Donald Trump came down that escalator. We can't sit here and act like that was normal political rhetoric we heard in 2024. I didn't hear nobody. I've never heard anybody liken to Hitler. I think they actually might have likened Obama to Hitler at one point. I don't.
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Oh, socialist.
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Socialist, yeah. But calling somebody a fascist, calling them a threat to democracy, liking them to Hitler, that's not normal political rhetoric. And if it is, or it's going to be, people got to act like it after they say it.
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Do you think now there's a bunch of people who are, like, I saw online, when you see the show, you'll see a few clips of the people who were upset at Snoop Dogg and who were upset at Nelly. Do you think that, you know, it's mostly people from the black community. You don't think there's. We don't have a. Somewhat of a. We don't. We should hold our celebrities accountable, at least to what they say. I know. Snoop Dogg and Nelly aren't. No, like, it's like Dave Chappelle famously said, who cares what Ja Rule? What does Ja Rule got to think? No, of course we don't care what Ja Rule has to think. But, like, is there something. Is there something to just holding our own people accountable? Like, in our own.
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In group, you can be mad at them, but what does it matter? And I wouldn't have any problem with people holding them accountable if I saw that same level of accountability. You know, if I saw them holding Obama and Biden into that same level of accountability. I bet you if you did search social media impressions to see, you know, who got more slander because they were cozying up With Trump, Snoop Dogg, and Nelly would quadruple what Obama and Biden got. And to me, that's just. It's just silly. It really just shows how unserious we are as a country. Because there's no way in hell I should be caring about what rappers do more than I care about what my elected officials do. Because you know what's going to happen two years from now? We gonna be spending so much time, you know, focusing on the wrong things that when the midterms come, they're not gonna be organized. And by they, I mean Democrats. Democrats aren't gonna be prepared. And then what's gonna happen? They're gonna lose the midterms. Because I guarantee you, in two years, people are not gonna be remembering Snoop performing at no crypto ball, but they will remember Obama and Trump smiling. Smiling with each other. Cause, look, I'm a person that got used, misused during this campaign, right?
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Because I would love. Please.
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Because I had an opinion about that transgender commercial. And so they ran that. Donald Trump turned that into a campaign ad or a pact for Trump turned that into a campaign.
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Adam, what was the slogan? I'm for you. Kamala's for they. Them.
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For they them. Right? So imagine what they gonna do with pictures of Obama and Trump. Chummy, chummy. You know what they're gonna do with pictures of Joe Biden saying, welcome back, Trump. What do you think? What do you think? Like, how can Democrats ever say something negative about Republicans in the future that we're going to believe? Like, they got to show us now.
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It's literally like being like, Jeff Epstein is a pedophile. Oh, let me take a picture with him. Like, after. Like, why would you. You know, he's.
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That's right.
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Why would you do it? What are you doing? You've been saying this guy's a. And now you're taking pictures with him. That's insane. That's optics of that. Also, I think that one of the things that, like, really, I think just. It was a gut kick, was not just seeing Obama smile. And I'm speaking personally, it was. It was not just seeing Obama smile at this. At the inauguration, at the funeral and the inauguration, it was combined with the fact that the first day of his presidency, I'm seeing, you know, these, like, mothers, these migrant mothers who are coming into the country legally, being locked out. Out. Right. Hours in through the legal process, Trump signed executive orders to stop them from being able to come in a legal way. And so you have all these migrants, these mothers, you see all these People devastated.
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Listen, the first four days of this administration, Donald Trump has done everything he said he's going to do. No surprises. He told us he was gonna pardon the January sixes. He told us about birthrights. He said he was gonna do all of these things, so there's no surprises. So my thing is, if he said he was gonna do all those things on the campaign trail and y'all were calling him a fascist and a threat to democracy and likening to Hitler, once he gets in and he's doing them, where's the rhetoric, people? Where's the rhetoric?
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You should be like, holy shit, that's right. Hitler's in the White House. We should be freaking the fuck out.
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They should be saying, I told you so. I don't care about no damn Snoop Dogg performing, no crypto bar. And that goes for all the media personalities, all the cable news folks. That goes for everybody on social media. Get focused, man. You know what I mean? Get your priorities right.
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I want to see, instead of Obama smiling with Trump, I want to see Obama down at the border with the families that are being affected or. Or just actively in the communities that are about to be affected by this cause.
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Or I don't wanna see Obama at all. Cause guess what? We ain't see Michelle. Michelle said when they go low, we go high. Michelle ain't even go at all this time. Okay, Michelle didn't go at all. She didn't go to the funeral. She didn't go to the inauguration. She didn't go at all.
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Okay, Shout out to Michelle. Yeah. She was like, fuck that. And like, we say he had to come home to that. I hope she gave him nothing but shit.
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You know, he got hit with the he. You know that.
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Now I'm like. Now I will say, like, when it comes to, like, Nelly and Snoop Nelly, I give less. I give less of a, like, shit to, like, performing there. Cause Nelly got a bad bitch and they are kind of expensive to hold. I don't know. Damn. So I know he needed that check.
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But Snoop, Snoop, I don't use language like that towards women, even if Trump is in the White House.
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A baddie. I apologize. A baddie. I'm just trying to give it the vibes of 2025, you know?
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That's all.
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That's all. But, you know, it is this weird thing whenever. Like, whenever white people do something, black men get blamed, I feel like, by other black people. Yeah. Do we have too high of a standard of ourselves?
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I'm not gonna say we have too high of A standard of ourselves. I just think we have, we have too high of a standard of, we have too high of a standard of entertainers. Entertainers get paid to entertain. Like, I don't know if there should be, you know, we should be worried about what entertainer represents what as far as political party. I care about their music. You know what I'm saying? I care about what they give me in movies, what they give me on TV shows. Like, I'm not tripping if somebody chooses to go perform at a crypto bar. Cause that's not, that's not an indication of what they believe. I don't, you know what I'm saying? Just because somebody, you know, performs at a crypto ball. I, I, I, I don't even know why this has been such a discussion, to be honest with you. Like, I'm not even joking. Like this would be based on everything we've seen over the last two weeks. This is what the topic of discussion is.
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You, I, I, I agree, I, 100%. It's a sad state of affairs that we have to like lean in on. Like we, we give celebrities opinions so much like weight in society either way. Like that's already bad, you know, for me, including me.
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I'm not, I don't even consider myself a celebrity. But it's just like, well, here's the thing.
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Charlamagne, you one. That's delusional. You're definitely a celebrity. You interview celebrities. You are celebrity.
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I just wanted to hear you say it. Ain't nothing wrong, a little ego boost every now and then.
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You see the shit I gotta do to earn my check around here.
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Thank you.
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The shit they make me do to give a check.
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I appreciate how you see me. Thank you. Tell me more.
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I was just leading into my next question, that's all. I wasn't trying to, trying to gas this man up. But you are famous. You've been famous for a long ass time, bro. And the thing is, and maybe this is my own like wrong perspective, so you can obviously correct me, but like black people, we don't have a lot of quality black leaders. We don't have a lot of black leaders. All the, y'all killed all the good ones. White people killed all the good black leaders. So we don't have this pool of good leadership that we can like look to. I don't even know who I would like. So by virtue, celebrities, black celebrities have become. I'm not saying I want this to be, but it looked like black celebrities are kind of our leaders. We look to they're the bigger figures in our culture. They're. You know, of course we got Obama. Of course we got political, like, politicians. But people listen to you. People listen to black entertainers. That's who we, like, listen to. And. And so I think that's maybe why we don't realize it. We don't have. We don't. It's a lack of leadership in our own community. So when Snoop Dogg turns his back on, like. Or not turns his back, but performs at the inauguration, we're looking at. We're like, whoa, what happened? Flavor Flav spoke at my graduation, my high school graduate. We didn't have no, like, leadership.
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Cause we went to school in Long Island.
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No.
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You didn't go to school in Long Island?
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No, I went to school in Texas.
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Oh, okay. Okay.
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No, no, but I'm just saying, like, that's why I think, like. Or that's why I think we have, like, such an emotional reaction to.
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I mean, there's nothing wrong with, you know, I guess you can have your disappointment. I'm just simply saying, like, it's inconsequential at the end of the day, because, like I said, you know, in two years, people are not going to remember Snoop Dogg performing at the Crypto Ball, but they're going to remember all those images of President Obama being chummy, chummy with Trump, right? They're gonna remember Joe Biden saying, welcome back, you know, to the White House in four years. They definitely gonna remember that. Like, the only thing that can fuck Republicans up at this point is Republicans. Like, Republicans have to literally. And I said this last time I did Daily Show, I actually encouraged Donald Trump to not prove his political opponents right. But if this first week is any indication, he definitely is. So the only thing Republicans can do at this point is implode. And when they implode and do everything that their political opponents said they were gonna do, then we see with our own eyes, oh, this really was a threat to democracy. Oh, this really was fascism. But if they just are regular conservatives for the most part, and just fuck up the economy and we end up in a recession, nobody gonna believe that. Republicans bad, Democrats good thing anymore. And I think that's what Democrats are banking on. And that's what bothers me. Like, it bothers me that, once again, what do y'all believe? What are y'all about? Like, don't just, you know, tell me Republicans are bad. Republicans are bad. Cause y'all don't look too good either.
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So. Yeah, actually, that's funny. You say that you're like, you wanna know what the Democratic. You wanna know what their messaging is? Have a. That's what I was gonna ask him. Like, what do you think the Democrats should be saying? Like, but you don't. You're saying they don't even have a platform, a messaging.
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They don't have any message. They don't have. They don't have any ideology. I don't know what Democrats, you know, believe. I really don't. I truly don't. Like. And, you know, everybody keeps saying they're leaderless. I think that there's some great Democrats out there, but, you know, they gotta be willing to really speak truth to power. And they gotta rip up whatever playbook politicians have had for the last however many years because the game has changed. The language of politics is dead and the game of politics is over. But for whatever reason, Democrats have not gotten that memo.
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No. Yeah. They're still playing, like, old school. Like, they still playing like Boomer politics. And Trump, he might be old. That dude is a Gen Z ass president. He is a brand. He is like a TikTok star. It's different.
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You know, it's crazy you say that because I say, you know, it's incredible to me how he's captured culture. And this is the second time we've seen him capture culture. And whenever we say the word culture, it's synonymous. With what?
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Black people.
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Black people. Democrats got all these black people in their party. They're surrounded by black people, all of these black voters, and they don't understand culture at all. Not even a little bit. That is mind blowing. Mind blowing to me.
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We should be eating. We should be killing them.
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Allegedly.
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I mean, you do. That's a fact, though. But it's like, it's the authenticity. Like, oh, I can't even say the word. I got a lisp. It's the authenticity.
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I got a list, too.
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We both struggling.
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Let's say this. Republicans are authentic, it seems like. And listen, I say that they're more sincere about their lies than Democrats are about their truth. Because when Republicans lie, it sounds like they're telling the truth. When Democrats tell the truth, it sounds like they're lying.
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No, that's fact. Like legit, legit fact. We mention it in the piece, but it's like when Donald Trump is talking about 2020 election, nigga was lying, but he said it so much sounded like.
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The truth and he acted like it. He did not go. And I hated that comparison. Everybody was like, when Michelle didn't show up to the funeral and Michelle didn't show up to the inauguration. People that were defending Michelle were saying like, well, Donald Trump didn't Show up in 2020. I don't even know why y'all did that because the reality is he shouldn't have showed up in 2020 cuz he accused him of stealing the election.
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You stole this from me. Why would I go to what? That is a crazy ass.
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Yeah, I guess it is kind of the same thing. Cause Michelle is like, look, I'm not going because we don't know why Michelle didn't go. We're just assuming. Yeah, we're assuming she didn't go because she believes all of the rhetoric that she said and others said about Trump. I'm a okay with that, actually. I respect that. I salute it. Same thing with Trump. Trump, you said they stole the election. You act like not only did he not do a peaceful transfer of power, he tried to lead an attempted coup. He tried to lead a coup in his country. That's how much he believed the election was stolen.
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At least my dog, Ashley Babbitt, that shit was.
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I'm just telling you, man.
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Yeah, that's, that is 100%, 100%.
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And if I, if you in the base, if I was in the base, I'd be like, man, he's, he believes in us. He's fighting for us.
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Don't believe in nothing that man says. Don't believe in none of the politics. Don't believe in none of the ideology. But I do know the anger speaks volumes.
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That's right.
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He used the anger as. That's, that's one point. He used Republican anger and like conservative anger. Like it was the perfect ingredient Right now people are angry. People on the Democratic side, they're just as angry as Republicans. You can see it. But they're turning that anger towards rappers. They're turning that anger silly.
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Turn that anger into organizing and planning and strategizing and getting ready for the midterm.
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What do we do with that anger? And like, it's because it's clearly palpable. Do we do Democrats storm the Capitol? Do we like, it's like, what do you do with that anger?
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I hear you saying organize, strategize, plan, prepare, get ready for the midterms. I don't even think you should spend all day, every day talking about every single move that Donald Trump is doing.
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That's the part I'm not looking forward to, bro. I learned the government based off of Donald Trump mistakes. That's literally. That's how I got Good at this job. He kept fucking stuff up. He's like, we getting out the epa? And I was like, what's the epa? It's the Environment Protection Agency. We need that, right? Yeah. That's how I learned about the epa.
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Cause the reality is, people will see what you're not doing, just like people saw what Democrats weren't doing. And trust me, when the Republican Party implodes, which it will, you've already seen things like Vivek Ramaswamy out of Doge. And you hear about Steve Bannon saying he want to get Elon away from Trump.
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Steve Bannon called Elon a Nazi.
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That's what I'm saying.
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Let that sink into your ears.
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So you're seeing them implode, and if these grocery prices don't come down, what a lot of people said they voted for Trump for, if people are still struggling, if people are still struggling, you know, 18 months from now, you know, yeah, they gonna be out there in the streets, you know, angry at Republicans, too, just like folks are angry at Democrats now.
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I just always. I'm just blown away because it's like, have they not been listening to the Trump's messaging? That's the part I'm confused on, because his messaging is also. It's hatefulness. It's like he's tapping into that anger. But also it's like, we're gonna tax. We're gonna get, like, we're gonna make tariffs 50% for Canada and Mexico. We're gonna buy Greenland. We're gonna change. Like, were these the plans that. Was this what they wanted?
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I've learned everybody doesn't pay attention to everything, but to that point that you just made, there is a lot of things that he spoke about that people just want. And I think that that's the other thing that America does not want to accept. America doesn't want to accept that. A lot of the things that he said he wanted to do, a lot of people in America wanted those things done. And that's why they went out there and voted for him.
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I agree. I think the immigration and sadly enough, sadly, the transgender issue, the immigration, I think those policies really. I know people I talk to, I think what they deem as common sense is like, they're like, there's people in this country taking my jobs. But it's more complicated than that. But, yeah, I understand it. There are. That is one part. One thing. Democrats are gonna have to acknowledge that there are people who want this where it's not just us.
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I mean, listen, rich white men have convinced poor white men that the liberal white man is giving away all they shit to niggas. And the niggas ain't even just black folks no more. I don't even think they really thinking.
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About us like that niggas is now all.
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That's right. That's right. It's. If you ain't white, you a nigga. Like straight up.
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But that's what I mean. And correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I'd be feeling like the. The split, the divide of the parties are. And I'm not. I'm not saying that Democrats represent niggas or anything like that, but I am saying I don't think that you quote that. You heard that on the Daily show podcast. But I do think, and this is my atomizing of the. Of the parties, my like, like, lowest common denominator. I can go with these parties. Republican Party is a white man's party. That is a white man, rich white man, rich white man's party. Yes, you can throw all the caveats in there all you want, but the core goals seem to be white, male centric, and Democrat ain't got no real messaging. But I do feel like it is the all y'all nigga parties. Blacks, Asians, Indians, women, gays. I feel like that is what the bubble of the Democratic Party represents, which to me, I probably lean more leftist. But I do think that I would rather be with everybody than just.
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I don't know if I think the Democrats tent might be too big.
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Do you think it's.
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Yeah, I remember. And I asked. I've been asking this question lately. On election night, we did a broadcast from Howard University, and it was the Breakfast Club, along with the Native Land Podcast, who is Angela Rai, Andrew Gillum and Tiffany Cross. And I asked that question that night. I asked them, you know, do you think that. Do you think Big Ten politics still works? And the reason I ask that is because you watch Republicans focus on their base and their base only, and, you know, they win elections because of that. I think that, you know, Democrats try to be all things to all people. And I don't know if that's possible because if you notice, you know, they lost a lot of their base, you know, this election, you know, there was just enough black men that went over and, you know, voted for Trump, even though we still were the second highest voting block for Democrats. You know what I mean? But it was just. It was just enough. I don't even say black men. Black people, right? Latinos oh my God. But more than half of Latinos voted for Trump. That's supposed to be the Democrat base. So I think that, you know, in a lot of ways, yeah, I just don't think you can be all things to all people. And I think they should really focus on their base more. I think if they focus on their base more, they'll energize their base more to come turn out during election time.
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Well, I see that. I can understand that. I would say like that identity politics, the hyper focusing on identity politics and making that the big tent picture, I think that was probably not the best strategy because it didn't really give people material things. I still, when it comes to big tent politics, I think about the laborers, I think about workers, and I think that at the end of the day we're all labor and workers. And I think if you make like a policies based off of laborers and workers, you'll help. You're able to pull up more people to the middle class. And that's what this country is built on. So maybe, I guess in my mind, the big tent politics obviously has its flaws. I think they fucked up by doing like making everything identity though and not working on like, cause everybody's a worker.
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I can see that. I mean, you want to focus on issues. People care about issues.
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Food in their stomach, health care, and.
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They want to be safe.
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Yeah, I definitely, I don't even know what the Democratic policies outside of like health care and just opposing Trump that became their identity.
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Well, if they do that for the next two years, they're going to lose the midterms. If they do that for the next four years, they're gonna lose the next election. So that's my whole message to Democrats, man, Everybody get focused, get your priorities in order. Stop targeting the rappers. And if you're gonna have anger and if you're gonna have vitriol, direct it towards the right people. And the people are the elected officials. It's the Democrats who lied to us and played in our face. Right. And man, I can think of so many lies that the Democrats told us that got us in this position. I can think about, you know, President Biden saying he was going to be a transitional president. President Biden, you know, deciding to run for a second term, but then stepping down too late, you know what I mean? Giving the VP only 107 days to run. The VP's team lying to us about what their internal polling was saying. Right. It's just a lot of different things.
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Michigan all going, oh, it's just A.
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Lot of different lies that caused them to be in the position that they're in right now. And I just want us to get focused. That's it.
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And also if you mad at, you should expect rappers to be Republican. I mean bruh, Trump, first off freed every rapper.
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We don't even know if they're Republican or not even. Like they just performed at the crypto ball. Snoop is a Crip.
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Trump pardoned more rappers than I know any president's ever pardoned in my Life. Kodak, Black, A$AP, Rocky, Lil Wayne, literally every rapper.
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But that don't mean rappers got to be beholden to him. But once again, I don't even know what these rappers politics are. I have no idea. They performed at a crypto ball inauguration weekend. What does that mean? So, so, so, so by that logic, Donald Trump is. I mean Barack Obama's a Trump ratanin.
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Yeah, yeah.
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President Biden. By that, if that, if that, if that logic holds up, then Obama's Republican. That's what I'm saying. Like, so it's like, come on.
A
Just by virtue of being in the area because proximity. Yeah. Well gives it cosign saying you're saying, you're basically saying you're co signing this person in their actions and beliefs. Yes, that's probably the optics. We can admit. The optics don't look at all terrible. The greatest optics. But yeah, no, well, guys, man, brother.
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Thank you ready for this show.
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Always a pleasure for speaking to you. I know y'all get ready for this show. This has been another great episode of the Daily show behind the show. My name is Astro Wommack.
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Can I recommend the book real quick?
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Absolutely.
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Anita Kopax, the Wind on Her Tongue.
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The Wind on Her Tongue.
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The Wind on Her Tongue. It came out this week. It is the sequel to her book Shallow Waters and it's a release off my book in print, Black Privilege Publishing, Simon and Schuster. And I know people that listen to the Daily show podcast.
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Read. No. Yeah. Perfect place to plug a book.
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Absolutely. Anita Kopac, the Wind on Earth Tongue. Available everywhere. You buy books now.
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Check that out, check that out, check that out. And also check out this episode we got with Charlamagne the God. Thanks for listening.
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Peace. Peace. Explore more shows from the Daily show.
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The Daily Show: Ears Edition – Episode Summary
Episode: Behind the Show | Charlamagne on Misplaced Political Anger
Release Date: February 3, 2025
Hosts: Asher Womack and Charlamagne Nagai
In this engaging episode of The Daily Show: Ears Edition, stand-up comedian and writer Asher Womack teams up with the renowned correspondent, Charlamagne Nagai, to delve into the tumultuous political landscape following Donald Trump's inauguration. The conversation navigates through misplaced political anger, the unexpected backlash against musicians like Snoop Dogg and Nelly, and the broader implications for Democratic strategies moving forward.
The episode opens with Asher Womack announcing the surprising outcome of Donald Trump's presidency and highlighting the peculiar public reaction that followed his inauguration. Contrary to expectations, the initial public backlash wasn't directed at Trump himself but rather at prominent rappers who performed at the inauguration events.
Asher Womack (00:40):
"But Trump is president. And for some odd reason, people, when the inauguration happened, people weren't mad at Trump. They seem to be mad at rappers Snoop Dogg and Nelly in particular."
Charlamagne emphasizes the confusion and misdirection of public anger, noting that instead of focusing on Trump's policies and actions, the outrage has been disproportionately targeted at entertainers.
Charlamagne Nagai (02:54):
"Charlamagne, what's your take on this? Why did that upset you that people were angry at rappers?"
"I just think it's silly, and it just shows how unserious we are as a country." (02:59)
The discussion shifts to the backlash faced by Snoop Dogg and Nelly for their performances during Trump's inaugural weekend. Users on social media platforms like X expressed their disappointment, questioning the artists' support for Trump.
Asher Womack (02:05):
"Not this Snoop Dogg."
Charlamagne criticizes the misplaced anger, arguing that the focus should be on political leaders rather than entertainers whose primary role is to entertain.
Charlamagne Nagai (07:05):
"And I wouldn't have any problem with people holding them accountable if I saw that same level of accountability... Snoop has burned more trees than the LA wildfires." (07:39)
A significant portion of the conversation addresses the polarized political rhetoric that has intensified since Trump's rise to power. Charlamagne critiques the Democrats for their inconsistent messaging and failure to hold their elected officials accountable, contrasting it with the Republicans' steadfast adherence to their messaging.
Charlamagne Nagai (04:59):
"...they called Trump things like a fascist, who said he was a threat to democracy, who likened them to Hitler." (04:59)
He further highlights how Democrats have struggled to maintain a cohesive message, which has led to voter confusion and weakened their base.
Charlamagne Nagai (16:36):
"They don't have any message. They don't have. They don't have any ideology. I don't know what Democrats, you know, believe." (16:36)
Asher expands on this by pointing out that identity politics has diverted attention from material issues that resonate more broadly with the electorate.
Asher Womack (25:47):
"Identity politics, the hyper focusing on identity politics and making that the big tent picture, I think that was probably not the best strategy because it didn't really give people material things." (25:47)
The hosts argue that the Democratic Party's focus on identity politics has alienated core voters and diluted their message, potentially leading to losses in upcoming elections. Charlamagne warns that if Democrats continue to misallocate their anger and resources, they risk significant setbacks in the midterms and beyond.
Charlamagne Nagai (20:14):
"Turn that anger into organizing and planning and strategizing and getting ready for the midterm." (20:14)
He underscores the importance of redirecting public frustration towards actionable political strategies rather than superficial targets.
Asher raises a critical point about the lack of quality black leaders, suggesting that the black community often looks to entertainers as de facto leaders due to historical gaps in political representation.
Asher Womack (13:31):
"Black people, we don't have a lot of quality black leaders. We don't have a lot of black leaders. All the, y'all killed all the good ones." (13:31)
Charlamagne concurs, emphasizing that entertainers should not bear the burden of political leadership and that the community needs more substantial figures to guide its political direction.
Charlamagne Nagai (12:01):
"In group, you can be mad at them, but what does it matter?... what should be directed towards the elected officials." (07:05 continued)
The episode concludes with Charlamagne offering insights into how the Democratic Party can revamp its messaging to better align with voter concerns. He advocates for a focus on issues like healthcare, economic stability, and public safety over divisive identity politics.
Charlamagne Nagai (17:10):
"They gotta rip up whatever playbook politicians have had for the last however many years because the game has changed." (17:10)
Asher echoes this sentiment, proposing that the Democrats return to addressing fundamental issues that affect the daily lives of Americans rather than engaging in superficial cultural battles.
Asher Womack (26:40):
"Food in their stomach, health care, and..." (26:49)
This episode of The Daily Show: Ears Edition offers a sharp critique of the current political climate, highlighting how misplaced anger and ineffective messaging are undermining Democratic efforts. Through candid dialogue, Asher Womack and Charlamagne Nagai shed light on the need for strategic realignment within the Democratic Party to address core issues and regain voter trust. Their discussion serves as a compelling call to action for both political leaders and voters to refocus on substantive policies that can drive meaningful change.
Notable Quotes:
Asher Womack (00:40):
"But Trump is president. And for some odd reason, people, when the inauguration happened, people weren't mad at Trump. They seem to be mad at rappers Snoop Dogg and Nelly in particular."
Charlamagne Nagai (02:59):
"I just think it's silly, and it just shows how unserious we are as a country."
Asher Womack (25:47):
"Identity politics, the hyper focusing on identity politics and making that the big tent picture, I think that was probably not the best strategy because it didn't really give people material things."
Charlamagne Nagai (17:10):
"They gotta rip up whatever playbook politicians have had for the last however many years because the game has changed."
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