Jersey Drones, Person of the Year, and an Anti-Holiday Rom-Com | Peter Sarsgaard

Summary

The Daily Show: Ears Edition – Episode Summary Release Date: December 13, 2024

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Introduction

Hosted by Michael Costa, The Daily Show: Ears Edition dives into a mix of current events, satirical commentary, and exclusive interviews. This episode tackles Time magazine's latest Person of the Year reveal, the baffling surge of drone sightings in New Jersey, a humorous take on holiday romance in movies, and an in-depth conversation with actor Peter Sarsgaard about his new film.

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Time Magazine’s Person of the Year

The episode kicks off with Michael Costa discussing Time magazine’s annual tradition of selecting the Person of the Year. Highlighting the decline of print media, Costa humorously remarks, “Time magazine still exists... not like cable. We're doing great. Thank you” ([03:00]).

Sam Jacobs, the editor-in-chief of Time, announces Donald Trump as the 2024 Person of the Year:

“Donald Trump. 2024. Person of the year.” ([03:30])

Costa quips about the lack of enthusiasm in the reveal:

“That's the most unenthusiastic reveal I've ever seen. That's how I act when my sister gives me scented lotion for Christmas.” ([03:39])

He further satirizes the selection of finalists, mocking the absence of notable figures like Joe Biden and the inclusion of Kate Middleton:

“No disrespect, but Kate Middleton was a finalist over Joe Biden... It should.” ([04:08])

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Mysterious Drones Over New Jersey

Transitioning to a bizarre local issue, Costa addresses the recent spike in drone sightings across New Jersey. He sets the tone with skepticism and humor:

“UFO's over New Jersey. Or as they call them in New Jersey, unidentified F objects.” ([07:19])

Sam Jacobs and Peter Sarsgaard join the conversation, with Sarsgaard adding:

“A New Jersey legislator posting on X that the drones appear much larger than typical hobby drones, in some cases up to six feet.” ([07:07])

The discussion escalates into a mock conspiracy theory when Jeff Van Drew, a New Jersey Representative, humorously claims the drones are part of an Iranian mothership operation:

“Iran launched a mothership probably about a month ago that contains these drones. That mothership is off the east coast of the United States of America.” ([09:58])

Costa retorts with sarcasm:

“Holy shit, there's an Iranian mothership launching drones off the East Coast. This is a national emergency.” ([10:43])

The Pentagon quickly debunks Van Drew's claims:

“There is no Iranian ship off the coast of the United States and there's no so-called mothership launching drones towards the United States.” ([10:46])

The segment humorously highlights misinformation and governmental confusion, culminating in Van Drew’s playful admission that the drones are actually “Santa Claus drones”:

“They're Santa Claus drones. No. Great. Now look, he's pulling them away. And Christmas is canceled.” ([13:07])

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An Anti-Holiday Rom-Com: The Daily Show Movie

Embracing the holiday spirit with a twist, The Daily Show presents a parody of traditional Christmas romances. The mock movie features Peter Sarsgaard grappling with forced holiday cheer and unexpected romantic advances.

Key humorous exchanges include Sarsgaard’s reluctance towards festive traditions:

“I want to move to Canada. Dad. I'm not kidding.” ([18:46])

And his skeptical take on the commercialization of Christmas:

“Santa's getting old. You try shimmying down a chimney with hypertension and a hernia, right?” ([13:28])

The segment satirizes the clichéd tropes of holiday movies, blending exaggerated drama with sharp wit, ultimately mocking the obligatory romantic subplot typical of the genre.

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Exclusive Interview with Peter Sarsgaard

In the latter half of the episode, Michael Costa sits down with Peter Sarsgaard to discuss his new film, September 5th. The conversation delves into the film’s depiction of live journalism during the 1972 hostage crisis in Laos.

Sarsgaard explains his motivation:

“When I saw the Jim McKay footage from that day, that was really one of the things that pushed me over the edge.” ([25:06])

He reflects on the evolution of live news coverage:

“We have this rolling 24-hour coverage that's live. And I don't think it's been a great thing.” ([25:27])

The discussion highlights the film’s attention to historical accuracy and the challenges of portraying real events authentically. Sarsgaard shares insights into his character’s development and the technical aspects of filming on a Munich soundstage:

“Tim would say, first you have to hit this, then you have to point at that, then he's going to flick this thing. It was all accurate.” ([28:30])

Costa praises the film’s production quality and thematic relevance:

“The attention to detail in this film, shooting a TV show 50 years ago... blew me away.” ([26:51])

The interview concludes with anticipation for the film’s release and its critical acclaim, including a Golden Globe nomination:

“September 5th is nominated for a Golden Globe for Best Motion Picture Drama... starting December 13th, it will be nationwide on January 17th.” ([33:47])

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Conclusion

The Daily Show: Ears Edition wraps up with a humorous nod to continued topical satire and an invitation to tune in for future episodes. Michael Costa signs off by encouraging listeners to watch the show on Comedy Central and stream on Paramount+.

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Notable Quotes Recap

• Michael Costa: “Time magazine still exists... not like cable. We're doing great. Thank you.” ([03:00])
• Sam Jacobs: “Donald Trump. 2024. Person of the year.” ([03:30])
• Jeff Van Drew: “Iran launched a mothership... off the east coast of the United States of America.” ([09:58])
• Jeff Van Drew: “They're Santa Claus drones. No. Great. Now look, he's pulling them away. And Christmas is canceled.” ([13:07])
• Peter Sarsgaard: “When I saw the Jim McKay footage from that day... pushed me over the edge.” ([25:06])

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Transcript

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For me personally, I was one of.

[Troy Iwata]

Those people who, like many of us, weren't taught about finances.

[Michael Costa]

You know, my parents didn't know, but.

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[Michael Costa]

You're listening to Comedy Central.

[Peter Sarsgaard]

From the.

[Michael Costa]

Most trusted journalists at Comedy Central. It's America's only source for news. This is the Daily show with your host, Michael Costa. Welcome. Welcome to the Daily Show. I'm Michael Costa. We've got so much to talk about. Tonight, Time magazine reveals the Person of the Year. We reveal America's hottest Christmas movie. And drones turn out to be annoying. Who saw that coming? Let's get into the headlines. Let's kick things off with Time magazine. Every December, they reveal their Person of the Year so that people can remember that Time magazine still exists. Print media is dying, you know, not like cable. We're doing great. Thank you. So this morning, the editor of Time magazine to reveal who this year's person was, even though the moment you see the editor's face. You know right away, it's Donald Trump.

[Sam Jacobs]

And here to make the announcement, Times editor in chief, Sam Jacobs.

[Michael Costa]

I'm super excited to be here. Please, please don't be mad. When it's the person we had to pick, who is it going to be? The person of the year. Who, for better or for worse, had the most influence on the news in.

[Sam Jacobs]

20 is Donald Trump.

[Michael Costa]

Okay, there it is.

[Sam Jacobs]

Donald Trump. 2024. Person of the year.

[Michael Costa]

That's the most unenthusiastic reveal I've ever seen. That's how I act when my sister gives me scented lotion for Christmas. Okay, there it is. Pomegranate dream. Thank you. Now, obviously, Donald Trump is the person of the year at this point. He's basically America's main character, so him winning is not surprising. What was surprising were the finalists. These were the five finalists here, in no particular order.

[Sam Jacobs]

Vice President Kamala Harris, the Princess of.

[Michael Costa]

Wales, Elon Musk, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin.

[Sam Jacobs]

Netanyahu, and President Elect Donald Trump.

[Michael Costa]

Okay, look, no disrespect, but Kate Middleton was a finalist over Joe Biden. Joe Biden is the President of the United States. I mean, sure, Kate Middleton is the leader of Hamas, but still, it. It should. President as a finalist. But I guess once again, time has not been kind to Joe Biden. But also. But also, why did they put Kamala Harris on the list? I know they're trying to pay her some respect, but all they did was just make her lose to Donald Trump again. Kamala, we just entered you in a golf tournament at Mar a Lago. Oop. Guess you lost again. Longest tie contest. Oop, Lost again. Anyway, Donald Trump was happy to win, and he accepted his award with a speech at the New York Stock Exchange. Although, because he's the people's president, he made sure to highlight the very real stories of real Americans who are really suffering for real. I tell the story about a woman who. An old woman. An old woman, no money, went to a grocery store, had three apples. She put them down on the counter and she looked and she saw the price and she said, would you excuse me? And she walked one of the apples back to the refrigerator and came back to pay for the two apples. And she left with two apples. And the woman at the counter said, that was so sad.

[Jeff Van Drew]

Yeah.

[Michael Costa]

You know, never in America should an old woman be forced to return an apple to the refrigerator at the grocery store where they always keep the apples. Now that poor old woman can't afford her three apple lunch. She could Only buy two apples. And if she's anything like the old women I see at my grocery store and her carton of cigarettes and scratch off tickets. But by the way, that old woman's name, Granny Smith, really makes you think. Seriously, Seriously, that was the worst story I've ever heard. That's like when my daughter is refusing to go to bed and she asks me to make up a story. Oh, yeah. Once there was an old woman, she tried to buy three apples. Then she ended up buying two. Okay, sweetie, Dada has to go watch Shogun. Good night. Let's move on to another story that's been gathering steam for a few days. And the big question that's on everybody's mind. What is going on in New Jersey? Yeah, Beats me. I don't know. Beats me, buddy. But what's actually going on is pretty bizarre. People in New Jersey are concerned and demanding information after a wave of mysterious drone sightings since last month. Dozens, dozens of drones mysteriously hovering in the skies at night.

[Sam Jacobs]

A New Jersey legislator posting on X that the drones appear much larger than.

[Peter Sarsgaard]

Typical hobby drones, in some cases up to six feet.

[Sam Jacobs]

They often fly with their lights off, making them harder to detect.

[Michael Costa]

That's right. UFO's over New Jersey. Or as they call them in New Jersey, unidentified F objects. Oh. Now, mysterious drones in the sky are scary, and they raise a lot of questions. Could they shoot me? You know, and after the year this has been, could they please shoot me? And now the people of New Jersey are pointing their phones at the sky.

[Sam Jacobs]

That is not an airplane.

[Holiday Movie Narrator]

It looks like a spaceship.

[Michael Costa]

Not a plane.

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That is a drone in the airspace.

[Sam Jacobs]

Definitely not planes.

[Michael Costa]

And there were too many of them. There's no way planes could fly that close together. You can hear that one. That is definitely a plane. Don't. Don't worry, guys. New Jersey's on the case. And this drone. This drone looks a lot like my finger. Now, there might be a simple explanation for all this, but this is America, and we pride ourselves on doing our own research. So cue the X Files. What's going on in America? Why doesn't our government tell us what's going on in these skies? The other night, there was right here.

[Sam Jacobs]

Over at Picatinny, there was a drone just hanging out.

[Michael Costa]

I put my drone up in the.

[Sam Jacobs]

Air and went towards it.

[Michael Costa]

I had full battery life. Not three minutes into the flight, I lost control of the drone.

[Troy Iwata]

One family claimed they followed a drone in their car.

[Michael Costa]

And while it hovered above them, the clock in their car changed times. Then they say the clock Went back to normal after they drove off. You know, Americans aren't allowed to look up anymore. And this all sounds like the world's most boring Steven Spielberg movie. No, no, I wasn't abducted. But my clock was slightly off for one minute. People are so dramatic. But I'm sure the New Jersey cops can clear all this up. New Jersey State Police and the State's.

[Peter Sarsgaard]

Office of Homeland Security say that the state has no information about who is.

[Michael Costa]

Behind the drones and why they're flying them. Authorities in Toms River, New Jersey, launching their own drone offensive for a closer look. I think I know what's going on here. We spotted a drone in the sky, so we're gonna launch a drone to find out what. Holy shit. Now there's two drones up there. We should put another drone. Holy shit, there's three drones up. But you know what? Forget the local police. If we want answers, we should ask New Jersey's elected officials. They were elected for a reason. And they can provide us with sane, informed explanation. New Jersey Representative Jeff Van Drew on cable news claiming he's been privy to top secret information about the drones from.

[Jeff Van Drew]

Very high sources, very qualified sources, very responsible sources. I'm going to tell you the real deal. Iran launched a mothership probably about a month ago that contains these drones. That mothership is off.

[Michael Costa]

I'm going to tell you the deal.

[Jeff Van Drew]

It's off. The east coast of the United States of America.

[Michael Costa]

Look, I know some of you are like, hey, can you stop making fun of New Jersey? You elected this guy. No. Holy shit. There's an Iranian mothership launching drones off the East Coast. You know what? Probably to gather intelligence on New Jersey's rich tapestry of shopping malls. This is huge though. This is a national emergency and a Congressman said it, so it's definitely true.

[Peter Sarsgaard]

The Pentagon Wednesday striking down claims that.

[Michael Costa]

Iran is behind those drones.

[Peter Sarsgaard]

There is no Iranian ship off the.

[Michael Costa]

Coast of the United States and there's.

[Peter Sarsgaard]

No so called mothership launching drones towards the United States.

[Michael Costa]

No mothership. So you're telling me is that Iran doesn't have Independence Day technology. Can I still blame Iran for all my other problems? Because that was going to be my defense on all those reckless driving tickets. But this is progress actually, because clearly the federal government knows what these things are and all we got to do is ask them. Tony Gonzalez, the Congressman, had this question for the Assistant FBI Director. Watch. You're telling me we don't know what the hell these drones are in New Jersey are? Is that correct? That's right. Wait a minute. The federal government, despite the bazillion dollars it spends every year on surveillance, doesn't know what's going on here. I texted the word vacation once to my wife three weeks ago, and Google's still serving me ads for Airbnbs. But there's an invasion of sky robots right now above our heads, and the FBI is like, oh, no. You know, this tells me two things. One, we need to devote way more resources to our oppressive surveillance state. And two, there's some really good deals on Airbnbs in Slovenia. So pack your bags. To find out the truth about these drones, we go live to New Jersey with Troy Iwata. Troy, Troy, please tell me you learned something out in New Jersey.

[Jeff Van Drew]

Sure, I came to New Jersey and learned something. That's hilarious. Michael, back to you.

[Michael Costa]

Wait, no, no. Troy, we sent you out there to find out about the drones. This is important. Tell us about the drones.

[Jeff Van Drew]

Yes, well, I asked some questions, and I realized I shouldn't have been asking questions, so let's just mind our own business and move on. Merry Christmas, Costa.

[Michael Costa]

No, no, no. I don't accept that. People are freaking out about the drones, and if you know something about it, you should tell us. You should tell, right? Everybody, tell us. Tell us. Tell us. Tell us.

[Jeff Van Drew]

Okay, fine.

[Michael Costa]

Shut up.

[Jeff Van Drew]

It's Santa, okay? They're Santa Claus drones.

[Michael Costa]

Santa.

[Jeff Van Drew]

No. Great. Now look, he's pulling them away. And Christmas is canceled. You're not going to get your precious wicked dolls anymore. I hope you're happy. I hope you're happy now, you nosy bitch.

[Michael Costa]

That's impossible. Santa Claus has a magic sleigh. He comes down the chimney.

[Jeff Van Drew]

Santa's getting old. Okay? You try shimmying down a chimney with hypertension and a hernia, right? So now he uses drones to get gifts across the world and to spy on people's bedrooms, to watch them cheat on their spouses.

[Michael Costa]

Oh, so he can put him on his naughty list?

[Jeff Van Drew]

Sure, yeah, yeah. It's not a power and control thing.

[Michael Costa]

But I. Oh, man, I had no idea. Now I'm embarrassed. We were thinking it was the Iranians gathering information.

[Jeff Van Drew]

No, no, no. Although Santa is selling some of that information to Iranians. Yes.

[Michael Costa]

But why would Santa do that?

[Jeff Van Drew]

Santa has bills to pay, Michael.

[Troy Iwata]

Okay?

[Jeff Van Drew]

Do you think he can cover his rent with the two Chips Ahoy cookies you put out for him? That's super generous. Like most of us, Santa sells a few state secrets to Iran, and they get along because they're both Muslim.

[Michael Costa]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Santa's not Muslim.

[Jeff Van Drew]

Um, he has a long beard and he works on Christmas, Costa. Or at least he did. But now that the secret's out, it's all canceled.

[Michael Costa]

Oh, man, I'm sorry, Troy. I feel like. I feel like I ruined Christmas.

[Jeff Van Drew]

No, you don't have to say that. Remember, Michael, this is New Jersey. No one deserves to have joy here. And that is the true meaning of Christmas.

[Michael Costa]

You know what? You're right. Troy Iwata, everybody. When we come back, check out this year's hottest holiday movie. So don't go wrong.

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[Michael Costa]

Welcome back to the Daily Show. It's December, the time of year when TV networks drop dozens of holiday movies where people fall in love thanks to the power of Christmas. But even though this year might not have left people feeling very romantic, that hasn't stopped our holiday movie from trying.

[Holiday Movie Narrator]

She was a big city career gal in the big city with a career. And she was sparkling with holiday spirit.

[Peter Sarsgaard]

This year sucked. I just can't wait to go home and hide from the world.

[Holiday Movie Narrator]

But to fully embrace this Christmas season, she had to leave the cold, heartless city and head to her charming, small hometown.

[Peter Sarsgaard]

Wow, dad.

[Troy Iwata]

So what do you want to do, kiddos?

[Peter Sarsgaard]

I want to move to Canada. Dad. I'm not kidding.

[Holiday Movie Narrator]

After all, tis the season to fall in love.

[Michael Costa]

Me, Christine. Dad, you're back in small Townsville. Would you want to go ice skating with me later today?

[Peter Sarsgaard]

No, I'm not doing this whole thing. Not this year. Bye.

[Holiday Movie Narrator]

Sometimes the thing you need the most is waiting for you back home.

[Michael Costa]

Hey, it's in the neighborhood. It got me thinking that the cosmos is.

[Peter Sarsgaard]

I'll take this.

[Holiday Movie Narrator]

Though it might not be the Christmas she expected, but magic is in the air.

[Sam Jacobs]

Yum.

[Peter Sarsgaard]

Thank you.

[Michael Costa]

The secret ingredient to all my pies is love. You know, Christmastime is the best time to fall in love.

[Peter Sarsgaard]

Not this year. Not this year.

[Holiday Movie Narrator]

Sometimes you need good friends to point out what's been right in front of you all along.

[Peter Sarsgaard]

Guess who's here?

[Michael Costa]

It's Scott from high school.

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He's become quite the handsome widower.

[Michael Costa]

I think he likes you.

[Peter Sarsgaard]

How many times do I have to tell you people? I am not down for a rom com right now. And for the last time, I'm not joining your mlm.

[Holiday Movie Narrator]

Christmas is when wishes come true. And this year, she's wishing for true love.

[Peter Sarsgaard]

No, I'm not.

[Holiday Movie Narrator]

But it's Christmas.

[Peter Sarsgaard]

Don't care.

[Holiday Movie Narrator]

And you're home for the holidays, where the magic of Christmas romance takes hold.

[Peter Sarsgaard]

You know what? Read the room buddy. Did you not see the election?

[Holiday Movie Narrator]

I only exist in Christmas movies. What's an election?

[Peter Sarsgaard]

Christine, there's someone here to see you.

[Michael Costa]

Christine, I know it's Christmas Eve and I'm just a single dad with three adorable kids. Will you be our mommy?

[Peter Sarsgaard]

This is literally the first time we met.

[Michael Costa]

And I know you're a big city Christmas journalist and I'm a rugged man who works at every small business in town, but Christine, Christmas is about being with the people you love.

[Holiday Movie Narrator]

That's what I keep telling her.

[Michael Costa]

That's what I told her too.

[Peter Sarsgaard]

Oh my God. All right, enough.

[Michael Costa]

All of you.

[Peter Sarsgaard]

Wait. Why do I even have to go home for the holidays? It's not even my real mom. It's just some Canadian actress.

[Michael Costa]

Hey, are you single? We wish you a merry Christmas we.

[Jeff Van Drew]

Wish you a merry Christmas.

[Holiday Movie Narrator]

So get cozy with the one you love because this holiday season, the Daily Show Movie Network presents a very 2024 Christmas wish.

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You a merry Christmas and a happy.

[Michael Costa]

When we come back, Peter Sarsgaard will be joining me on the show. So don't go away.

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[Troy Iwata]

Thank you.

[Michael Costa]

Is this film going to make me respect sports reporters? Because I don't want to.

[Troy Iwata]

You know, I always loved Jim McKay, who's in this movie.

[Michael Costa]

Yeah.

[Troy Iwata]

You know, and a lot. I was a huge sports fan growing up. I still am, I guess. Some of my favorite people, sports reporters. So deal with it.

[Michael Costa]

Okay, so. But you were acting along with real doc footage. Doc footage. Because you mentioned Jim McKay, you actually are showing him in this pivotal moment in September 5, 1972.

[Troy Iwata]

Yeah, I mean, actually, when they were first talking to me about doing the movie and I saw the Jim McKay footage from that day, that was really one of the things that pushed me over the edge. It's like hearing, you know, your favorite actor is going to do it. I was like, my favorite commentator is going to do it.

[Michael Costa]

What drew you to the film besides that? Because we've had a movie about, you know, Munich. We've had a movie about that event.

[Troy Iwata]

We've had a lot of, yeah, great documentaries. There's Visions of Eight Day in September. I think it was the point of view. In some ways, it was almost like a submarine movie or something to me. All these guys in front of controls and the periscope is the camera and I think the live camera, the birth of the live camera, turning it from sports, which is what it was kind of meant for, and then turning it onto this hostage crisis in Laos. We have this rolling 24 hour coverage that's live. And I don't think it's been a great thing. So I think this is sort of the dawn of something that we kind of need to think about a lot of the issues that are in the film.

[Michael Costa]

Yeah.

[Troy Iwata]

From 1972 are still the same issues we need to be thinking about.

[Michael Costa]

That blew me away. How relevant so much of the journalistic stuff. I mean, now I can go live right now on this. Boom. By the way, I'm live right now.

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[Michael Costa]

And the amount of respect that was given to live in 1972 because it hadn't been done before.

[Troy Iwata]

Yeah. I mean, you know, what is it to have live news coverage? Why is that good? Right. You know, having your face right up to something like this and make it more understandable. Yeah. In some ways they had this new toy which, you know, Rune Ulrich, who I play, was known for really making the best seat for the sporting event. Be at home in your living room.

[Michael Costa]

Yeah.

[Troy Iwata]

You were going to know more, you were going to see more, you were going to have the background story. You had the on field camera. But is that really important for like a hostage crisis or a school shooting or something like that? Why? Why do we do that?

[Michael Costa]

You know, it's so true now with sports, where I go, you know, I'd rather sit at home. I'm going to get the speed of the ball, I'm going to see the revolutions. But I don't know if I'm a better person for that necessarily. And maybe in sport it's perfect because the stakes are low.

[Troy Iwata]

Yeah. I mean, the interesting thing is at first, you know, with Rune and all these ideas, they were afraid that they weren't going to be able to sell tickets. They didn't want the best seat to be at home.

[Michael Costa]

Right.

[Troy Iwata]

It didn't stop people from going to see it live.

[Michael Costa]

The attention to detail in this film, shooting a TV show 50 years ago. I mean, it's real tape, it's film. And then they had to do the graphics and they're actually putting typeface. It blew me away.

[Troy Iwata]

Yeah. And the way that they slow down the film to do the. You know, is that real?

[Michael Costa]

Was that bullshit?

[Troy Iwata]

No, that's the way they did it.

[Michael Costa]

Slow motion was a guy who just moved his hand slower.

[Troy Iwata]

Well, we had our director. Tim Felbaum was just obsessive when I met him. Yeah, he was showing. I remember one of the first things he did is he said, I'm thinking you'll shave at some point in the film. Look at this period correct shaver that I have. And I was like, this guy's clearly meant to do this. It's very helpful to have all of that real stuff in front of you a lot of times. Speaking of submarine movies, I've done submarine movies where it was like, it looks really cool if you flick this thing and pull this thing this way and then go like that, and you're like, what does that do? We have no idea. None of this is real. But Tim would say, first you have to hit this, then you have to point at that, then he's going to flick this thing. It was all accurate.

[Michael Costa]

That's the control room. And your character is pretty much in his office or control room the entire time.

[Troy Iwata]

Yeah.

[Michael Costa]

What was that? Shot over many, many days, obviously. But I mean, that was. Felt claustrophobic, almost like a submarine movie. But I guess that was the intended purpose.

[Troy Iwata]

We're filming in Munich at Bavaria Studios. And technically they should be able to make. We're on a soundstage, so they should be able to make the walls fly away.

[Michael Costa]

Right.

[Troy Iwata]

And you should. But he didn't want that. He wanted it to feel very tight. We had two cameras, three people on each camera, maybe eight actors in the room. It's hot, it's smelly, it's smoky. But I guess that's the way it was. He was very into making us uncomfortable.

[Michael Costa]

It comes across, and it's very entertaining to watch. And I thought, holy shit, I want to make TV in 1972, but instead I make it in 2024, and I'm a piece of shit. And, you know, I wish I could be in 1972. Sports journalists, to me, it's just, what do you do in the second half, Coach? Yeah. Yeah. And I was watching this thinking, wow, they. These sports journalists handled real journalism so well. And it made me think, if ESPN plus could pull this off today, if we have, you know, there's so many channels. Could they handle a hostage crisis so eloquently? Jim McKay looked like he was meant for it.

[Troy Iwata]

Well, it was a different time. I mean, these guys were real storytellers. That was the thing. And they were, you know, what happened at this moment. Because Ruin went on to do news. He was.

[Michael Costa]

Which is fascinating, too. Yeah.

[Troy Iwata]

And he actually did news and sports at the same time at one point. And so this idea of making sports entertaining for even people who don't follow sports, like the. Remember the. My Aunt Mary would watch the Olympics. She never watched anything else sports related. But the Olympics was like. We learn he came from Nebraska. He's shooting hoops in his backyard. She's. She's weeping after he has.

[Michael Costa]

Her father slipped on the steps when she was in eighth grade. Yeah.

[Troy Iwata]

But then he took that into news. And now we do have news that, you know, tries to be entertaining. Tries to compete with other news.

[Michael Costa]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[Troy Iwata]

And for better or worse, we need, like, tidy endings and, you know, beginnings, middles and ends. And I think that that's live audiences.

[Michael Costa]

And audience warm up, guys. I don't know. I mean, are we better for this? I don't.

[Troy Iwata]

I think what's good for you is that you acknowledge that you are both. It's the illusion that they are the other stations that we won't talk about.

[Michael Costa]

Man, you've played so many wonderful characters, characters that I love. The Apple Show, Presumed Innocent. You played the kind of dickhead lawyer. You played a serial killer in Boys Don't Cry. You were the villain in Green Lantern. You had this enormous forehead. Do we have a picture of this green. I mean. I mean, what? I. I'm sorry. You. You've played so many characters, but this costume. How did you lose the forehead weight? I'm gaining the forehead weight.

[Troy Iwata]

I'm gonna tell you something. I didn't know about the prosthetics until after I said yes.

[Michael Costa]

Right.

[Troy Iwata]

I actually arrived on set, and they were like, oh, and you're gonna go meet the prosthetics team. And I was like, oh, what prosthetics? And then they went, that is crazy. And it was New Orleans and it was summer.

[Michael Costa]

Yeah.

[Troy Iwata]

Which is why in many scenes in that movie, I'm not wearing trousers. Because it's from here up. That's the secret, actually, to that guy.

[Michael Costa]

Don't wear trousers.

[Troy Iwata]

No.

[Michael Costa]

I should try that here. Do you like playing bad boys? Peter, Peter. Peter.

[Troy Iwata]

Sorry.

[Michael Costa]

You know, I stood up.

[Troy Iwata]

Do I like playing bad boys?

[Michael Costa]

Was he trying to look at my dick? Peter, are you a bad boy?

[Troy Iwata]

Peter? I don't like the responsibility of playing a good boy. I guess I don't believe in them. Whenever I've met them in my life, I think they have some ulterior motive.

[Michael Costa]

Yeah.

[Troy Iwata]

I really appreciate the honesty of somebody that just wears their sins on their sleeve.

[Michael Costa]

Yeah. You know, comedians that are always like, I'm clean. I'm clean. They're always the most up. Yeah. Look, this film is excellent.

[Troy Iwata]

Thank you.

[Michael Costa]

It's nominated for a Golden Globe for best motion picture drama. That it's going to get even more. September 5th is in select theaters. Starting December 13th, it will be nationwide on January 17th. Peter Sarsgaard. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back after this.

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[Michael Costa]

That's the show for tonight. Now here it is, your momentum. Someone at the Patriot Awards told me. Tell Brian I don't get dressed when he tells me to. I stay. I watch Fox in my bathrobe. All right, send us pictures. No, no, do no, he's wrong.

[Troy Iwata]

Do not send us pictures.

[Michael Costa]

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