Trump Attacks CNN's Kaitlan Collins Over Epstein Q & Renovates D.C. in His Image | Ms. Pat

Summary

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The Daily Show: Ears Edition

Episode: Trump Attacks CNN's Kaitlan Collins Over Epstein Q & Renovates D.C. in His Image | Ms. Pat
Date: February 5, 2026
Host: Michael Costa
Guests: Grace Kuhlenschmidt, Ms. Pat

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Daily Show riffs on current events with signature satire and wit. The focus is President Trump’s attack on CNN’s Kaitlan Collins over her Epstein-related questions, his flamboyant plans to redesign Washington, D.C. with extravagant new monuments, and a feature interview with comedian Ms. Pat, creator and star of the acclaimed “Ms. Pat Show.” Using sharp monologues, on-the-ground field reporting, and a comedic biographical segment on Gavin Newsom, the show deconstructs the intersection of politics, power, celebrity, and pop culture.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Trump’s Deflection from Epstein Questions

• Trump is launching yet another “America is Back” merch push, met with skepticism by the hosts.
• CNN’s Kaitlan Collins presses Trump about the redacted Epstein documents, referencing survivors’ anger at the lack of transparency.
  • Michael Costa mocks Trump’s deflection and inappropriate response urging Collins to “smile,” calling out the optics of belittling a female reporter asking about sex-trafficking.

    "I don't know if there's ever a time to tell a reporter to smile, but I'm almost positive it's not when she's asking you about sex trafficking victims." — Michael Costa (03:04)

• Jokes riff on Trump’s tendency to dodge questions about his connection to the Epstein investigation.

2. Presidential Overhaul of Washington, D.C.

• Trump’s grandiose architectural ambitions are dissected through satire, including:
  • A 250-foot “giant arch” modeled on the Arc de Triomphe.

    “Trump is building Washington, DC’s hottest suicide destination.” — Michael Costa (04:37)

  • The Kennedy Center’s two-year closure for another renovation, after Trump purges the board and names himself Chairman.
  • An absurd rendering for a $400 million White House ballroom.
  • Fantastical proposals, including a small Trump statue on Lincoln’s lap and a second dome on the Capitol “because, you know, boobies.”
• These projects are lampooned as a mode of marking territory and a metaphor for Trump’s legacy obsession.
  • Grace Kuhlenschmidt: “Donald Trump is just like a dog. Specifically, one of those dogs that got too inbred and now has all these weird health problems. Like, I didn’t even know a dog could get cankles.” (09:36)

3. Satirical Field Reporting with Grace Kuhlenschmidt

• Reporting from D.C., Grace speculates about the endless wave of Trump-branded constructions.
  • Grace Kuhlenschmidt: “Because he’s a good boy. He is president good boy. And that’s his spot. And that’s his spot.” (10:08)

4. Daily Showography: Gavin Newsom

• A tongue-in-cheek documentary segment follows the career arc of California Governor Gavin Newsom.
  • Nepo baby origins mixed with tales of humble beginnings.
  • Landmark achievements (and failures) in homelessness, high-speed rail, early support for gay marriage.
  • Scandals: divorce from Kimberly Guilfoyle, rumors of alcohol abuse and infidelity, “French Laundry” COVID-19 blunder.
  • Surviving a recall, angling for the presidency, and Twitter beefing with Trump.

    "We need to change the conversation. And that's why I'm launching a new podcast." — Michael Costa as Newsom (18:53)

  • The sketch positions Newsom as a “Christian Bale type,” ready for Hollywood and national office.

5. Interview: Ms. Pat

• Ms. Pat discusses the journey and ethos behind her acclaimed sitcom, “The Ms. Pat Show.”
  • Comedy rooted in truth, refusing TV’s “cookie cutter” approach.
  • Tackling real issues: immigration, LGBTQ topics, family abuse—with humor and candor.

    “Networks are so scared today to tell the truth... All of us is from somewhere else. This is nobody country.” — Ms. Pat (23:39)

  • She recounts the censorship struggles:

    “We started out at Fox. Fox sold out to Hulu. And I said the N word. And Hulu said, hell, no, and dropped the show. And BET said, well, come on over here, black people. We’ll let you be black.” (25:36)

  • Ms. Pat’s path from last comic standing, surviving violence and trauma, to comedic success.

    “I just tell people, believe in yourself. Nobody’s gonna believe in you like you believe in yourself.” — Ms. Pat (29:22)

  • On prepping for political unrest: stockpiling supplies, buying gas masks (“the kids can use towels”).
  • Advice to young fans: Own your story, persist, and self-belief.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Costa on Trump’s Merch:
  “It’s bad enough they release hats as often as iPhone updates, but it doesn’t even look like Trump’s heart is in this one.” (00:59)

• On the Arch:
  “Get excited, people. Trump is building Washington, DC’s hottest suicide destination.” — Michael Costa (04:37)

• On Marking Territory:
  “Mark his territory? You’re making him sound like a dog.”
  “Yes, exactly.” — Costa & Kuhlenschmidt (09:33-09:36)

• On Ms. Pat Show’s Realness:
  “The networks are so scared today to tell the truth. And I. You know, immigrants are in my neighborhood. Be honest. All of us is from somewhere else. This is nobody country.” — Ms. Pat (23:39)

• Ms. Pat on Network Hurdles:
  “BET said, well, come on over here, black people. We’ll let you be black.” (25:36)

• Personal Resilience:
  “Believe in yourself. Cause nobody’s gonna believe in you like you believe in yourself.”— Ms. Pat (29:22)

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Notable Timestamps

• 00:10 – Episode launch, Michael Costa’s opening monologue on “America is back” and raspberry inflation
• 01:58-03:26 – Trump dodges Epstein survivor questions, tells Kaitlan Collins to smile
• 03:47-05:46 – Discussion of Trump’s “giant arch” and other D.C. building projects
• 06:24-07:54 – Kennedy Center closures and more Trump renovations
• 08:37-10:31 – Grace Kuhlenschmidt satirical field report on Trump “marking his territory” across D.C.
• 11:59-19:44 – “Daily Showography” of Gavin Newsom, covering his life, scandals, and hypothetical future
• 22:11-30:22 – In-depth, hilarious, and moving interview with Ms. Pat
• 29:22 – Ms. Pat’s advice to young people
• 31:56 – “Moment of ZAM:” DOJ attorney admits the system for processing immigration cases “sucks”

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Tone & Comedic Style

Throughout the episode, Michael Costa, Grace Kuhlenschmidt, and guests deliver rapid-fire jokes, biting satire, political commentary, and a blend of irreverent and heartfelt humor. The show skewers both politicians and the culture industry, always circling back to the human element, as exemplified in Ms. Pat’s segment.

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Conclusion

This episode skewers Trump’s distraction tactics and self-aggrandizement, lampoons Gavin Newsom’s political trajectory, and celebrates Ms. Pat’s unfiltered comedic force. With sharp insights into media, politics, and entertainment, The Daily Show uses its platform to expose absurdity, champion authenticity, and keep listeners laughing and thinking.

Transcript

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[Michael Costa]

You're listening to Comedy Central. From the most trusted journalists at Comedy Central. It's America's only source for news. This is the Daily show with your host, Michael Costa. Yeah, we got a good one tonight, boy. Welcome to the Daily Show. I'm Michael Costa. We've got so much to talk about tonight. Gavin Newsom is ready for his close up. The Kennedy center about to get that bbl and you won't believe this. Trump acted like a dick. So let's get into the headlines. It's no secret that things have not been in the old US Of A. Lately. Government shock troops are rampaging through the streets, billionaires are stripping our last remaining news outlets for parts, and I just bought a pint of raspberries that cost $43. But don't worry, President Trump has an announcement that's going to turn everything around. America is back. This is a new hat. We just came out. America is back. America. America is back. Thanks for that inspiring halftime speech, coach team. I know we're down 55 to zero, but on the other hand, I made a hat. Hope that helps. Good luck in the second half. It's bad enough they release hats as often as iPhone updates, but it doesn't even look like Trump's heart is in this one. Can someone ask him a fun question to cheer him up a bit? And please make sure it's not about a subject that he's desperately trying to avoid.

[Grace Kuhlenschmidt]

A lot of women who are survivors of Epstein's are unhappy with those redactions that came out. Some of them entire witness interviews are totally blacked out.

[Michael Costa]

Kaitlan Collins. Ixnay on the dead Edophile pay. This is supposed to be a fun merch drop. Trying to hold the president to account is really killing the vibe here. Mr. President, why don't you answer the question in the dignified and respectable manner that we've come to expect? You know, she's a young woman. I don't think I've ever seen you smile. I've known you for 10 years. I don't think I've ever seen a smile like that. Well, I'm asking you about survivors. You know why you're not smiling? Cause you know you're not telling the truth. Damn, that is messed up. Can I talk to the President alone for just a second? Hey, dj. Few thoughts, all right? I don't know if there's ever a time to tell a reporter to smile, but I'm almost positive it's not when she's asking you about sex trafficking victims. I mean, even. Even if she did smile, would that make it better? Hey, I'd like to ask you about that pedophile ring, but to be fair to the President, he's really tired of being asked all these questions that he refuses to answer. I think it's really time for the country to get onto something else. Yeah, yeah, of course. You want to move on to something else. I would, too, if I was in the Epstein files thousands of times. I feel the same way when the IRS tries to audit me. Hey, guys, I appreciate your interest, but me and my business Jacuzzi are ready to move on. But you know what? Donald Trump is right about one thing. There are a lot of other important issues to focus on. Like what, exactly?

[Grace Kuhlenschmidt]

The President has announced his intention to build a giant arch across from the Lincoln Memor.

[Michael Costa]

Wee. I'm the president. My arch is gonna fly. And now it's fighting Godzilla. And now it's telling Barbie to smile. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. And now it's marrying the Washington Monument. Oh, yeah. Is that what you guys laugh at? Stuff like that. Okay, so the President has decided to spend his time building a giant arch. How giant are we talking?

[Grace Kuhlenschmidt]

The Washington Post reports it could stand.

[Narrator/Reporter]

As high as 250ft, just 40ft shorter than the US Capitol.

[Grace Kuhlenschmidt]

Two people say he's grown attached to the idea, despite some architectural experts being alarmed by the scale.

[Michael Costa]

I'd like it to be the biggest one of all. Wow. Get excited, people. Trump is building Washington, DC's hottest suicide destination. First off, it's never good when the architectural experts use the word alarmed. And secondly, do we need the world's biggest arch? This is how you can tell Trump doesn't live with Melania full time. Because this is one of those ideas men have when they're home alone for too long. Whenever my wife goes away two days into her trip, I'm like, actually, you know, we do need a skate park in this living room. I don't. And as for the arch design, it's basically just copying the Arc de Triomphe. And honestly, if we're going to be derivative of France, let's not just settle for their arches. How about socialized health care? Or even better, the right to. Yeah, or even better, the right to start a riot when your boss emails you after 5pm but fine, I guess go build your arch. Then we can get back to those important issues that you are so eager for America to return to. So what do you got?

[Grace Kuhlenschmidt]

President Trump announcing he will shut down the Kennedy center for two years for a top to bottom renovation.

[Michael Costa]

No, Trump is shutting down the Kennedy center for two years. But I promised my wife we'd go see the Bulgarian National Modern Jazz Dance Company. Damn you, Trump. Strange. He's doing this now since they already renovated the Kennedy center the last time he was president. There can't be another reason he wants to shut it down for two years. Right, right, right.

[Grace Kuhlenschmidt]

That planned closure is coming after a slew of artists canceled performances once the President purged the Kennedy Center's board, naming himself Chairman and putting his own name on the building.

[Michael Costa]

Ah, yeah, he decided to close the Kennedy center the same way your friend who collects dolls decided to become celibate. Come on, Trump, you can replace those performers. There's plenty of great conservative artists like Nicki Minaj and Kanye west. And I'm sure someone else will also have a mental breakdown soon. Also, hasn't the Kennedy family been through enough? The assassinations, the scandals, spending Thanksgiving with RFK Jr instead of turkey, I spatchcocked a raccoon. But fine, I'll give you the arch and I'll give you the Kennedy Center. Just please, for the love of God, stop building stuff and focus on your actual job. The President has shared what he calls the first public rendering of the future White House ballroom. The estimated cost of the project has skyrocketed from 200 million to now. 400 million. Oh, that's right, the ballroom. I mean, I guess it doesn't suck, but for $400 million, it's definitely not blowing me away. I mean, who designed this thing? Frank Lloyd? Just. Alright, architecture slam. Let's sum up how we got here. The President of the United States is in the Oval Office insulting professional reporters for asking about his administration's mishandling of the highest quality profile sex trafficking case in American history. And instead of answering these questions, he'd rather spend his time on his construction fetish of building his arch, a new Kennedy center and a giant ballroom he and his friends can dance in while the rest of the country collapses around them. Or in other words, America is back. God, that enthusiasm is infectious. For more on the President's makeover of Washington, we go to Grace Kuhlenschmidt in the nation's capital. Grace, please tell me they are going to be done with all this soon.

[Grace Kuhlenschmidt]

Absolutely, Michael. After that arch and the Kennedy center, they're going to be all done.

[Michael Costa]

Great. Phew. Awesome.

[Grace Kuhlenschmidt]

Oh God, this is just the beginning, honey. Just you wait till they see what they got planned. They are going to build a small statue of Trump to sit on the lap of the Lincoln Memorial. Then Trump is going to add a second dome on the Capitol because, you know, boobies and every name on the Vietnam Memorial wall is getting Trump added to it.

[Michael Costa]

Wait, whoa. That seems really disrespectful.

[Grace Kuhlenschmidt]

Oh, how dare you say that about the thousands of Trumps who have died for this country.

[Michael Costa]

Grace, what is the point of all this? Why does he keep building stuff all.

[Grace Kuhlenschmidt]

Over D.C. well, Trump is very invested in his legacy. He wants to make his mark on the city's territory so people will always remember that he was there.

[Michael Costa]

Mark his territory? You're making him sound like a dog.

[Grace Kuhlenschmidt]

Yes, exactly. Donald Trump is just like a dog. Specifically, one of those dogs that got too inbred and now has all these weird health problems. Like, I didn't even know a dog could get cankles.

[Michael Costa]

Okay, so. So he's gonna spend his entire term putting up buildings around D.C. like a dog who pisses all over the neighborhood? No.

[Grace Kuhlenschmidt]

Eventually, he will run out of ideas for buildings.

[Michael Costa]

Okay, thank God. Yeah.

[Grace Kuhlenschmidt]

And then he will actually start pissing.

[Michael Costa]

All over D.C. why would he do that?

[Grace Kuhlenschmidt]

Because he's a good boy. He is president good boy. And that's his spot. And that's his spot. And that's his spot.

[Michael Costa]

Grace, he can't just pee on everything in D.C. he'll run out of pee.

[Grace Kuhlenschmidt]

No, no. He's 80 years old. It's like a water bottle in a hamster's cage down there. There's always a little bee dripping off the tip.

[Michael Costa]

Oh, my God. Grace. Grace, that's. That's really upsetting. The country's falling apart, and the president is spending his time lifting his hind leg and spraying a fine mist of pee all over our beloved capital. I gotta tell you, this is making me depressed.

[Grace Kuhlenschmidt]

Well, you being depressed is making the rest of us depressed. Could you try smiling a bit more fair.

[Michael Costa]

Hey, Grace Coolenschmitt, everyone. When we come back, we find out more than we wanted about Gavin Newsom. Don't go away.

[Grace Kuhlenschmidt]

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[Michael Costa]

Welcome back to the Daily Show. Gavin Newsom is a. Whether he's gearing up for a presidential run, beefing with President Trump, or more recently, beefing with Halle Berry. I mean, I'm not usually one to pick sides, but I gotta go with my celebrity hall pass on this one. So sorry, Halle Berry, but how did Gavin Newsom become the towering political figure he is today? We're about to find out. In a brand new Daily Showography.

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[Narrator/Reporter]

The state that brought you President Ronald Reagan and Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger comes an exciting new politician ready for his close up. Audiences and critics agree Gavin Newsom is inspiring, savvy and charismatic and has awesome tweets. He's now playing in select venues, but is preparing to be released nationwide. This is the Daily Showography of Gavin News Newsome leading man for your consideration. Gavin Christopher Newsome was born in 1967 to a family that was as San Francisco as stepping on a syringe in the tenderloin.

[Michael Costa]

San Fran, fifth generation.

[Narrator/Reporter]

And thus began Newsom's classic rags to riches story.

[Michael Costa]

My father is closest friends in the world were some of the richest families in the world.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Fine, he's a Nepo baby, but so is Dakota Johnson and we love her. Plus, Newsom can also do the humble beginnings thing.

[Michael Costa]

I grew up with a single mom and she came from nothing. She struggled all her life.

[Narrator/Reporter]

You see that he can play rich and poor. That's what I call range.

[Michael Costa]

Christian Bale has nothing on this guy.

[Narrator/Reporter]

After going to college on a baseball scholarship, Gavin followed in the footsteps of so many young graduates by opening a winery with nothing but his grit, his refined palette, and the financial backing of an oil tycoon. Yes, things were finally, finally starting to work out for this tall, handsome, athletic, well connected young man. Owning this small business gave Newsome his first taste of the issues affecting real Americans.

[Michael Costa]

Enough's enough. We're sick and tired of corky wines, wines that are painted, wines that are sent back in restaurants.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Move over, Bernie. There's a new man of the people in town. Newsom's wine company was a hit. He had the smell of success with some oaky notes and I want to say cherry. But soon a health code clash with city hall led to sour grapes. So Newsom took his complaint straight to the mayor, who had a strange counteroffer.

[Sponsor/Announcer]

Willie Brown.

[Michael Costa]

The mayor said, I'm gonna point you to the parking traffic commission because I Was bitching about doing business in San Francisco.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Getting appointed to a position he knew nothing about soon gave Gavin the confidence to aim even higher.

[Michael Costa]

Willie Brown was termed out as mayor, and there was an open seat. And I think at 33, I announced, why the hell not?

[Narrator/Reporter]

And with that stirring message as his clarion call, Newsome landed his biggest role to date. Mayor. He quickly made his mark, taking the lead on gay marriage.

[Michael Costa]

Separate is not equal.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Because he wanted everyone to experience the joy that he felt with his wife, Kimberly Guilfoyle, a California district attorney who definitely has a type. Gavin and Kimberly were practically San Francisco royalty, even if they didn't quite know how to use chairs. But like so many celebrity marriages, it ended in divorce, sending Gavin into his bad boy era. He lashed out at the press.

[Michael Costa]

That was a great shepherd. You can't help yourself.

[Narrator/Reporter]

He reached for the bottle.

[Grace Kuhlenschmidt]

Rumors of possible alcohol abuse have dogged the mayor.

[Narrator/Reporter]

There were even rumors of an affair with a staffer's wife. But of course, you can't believe everything you hear and read.

[Michael Costa]

I want to make it clear that everything you've heard and read is true. Oh, wow.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Okay. To get back on his feet, Gavin threw himself into his role as mayor. Tackling homelessness.

[Michael Costa]

We better solve the housing problem and high speed rail. We'll be back in 2017. Celebrating this completion.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Always yearning for a larger part, Newsom soon landed the role of California's official understudy, Lieutenant governor. Now he could focus on exciting new projects like ending homelessness and building high speed rail.

[Michael Costa]

This is the biggest infrastructure project in California's history.

[Narrator/Reporter]

But as a versatile talent, Newsom was able to tackle these tough issues while also starting a talk show.

[Michael Costa]

Hello, and welcome to the program.

[Narrator/Reporter]

A platform he used to ask the hard hitting questions important to the people of his state.

[Michael Costa]

You're not one of those method actors that becomes that character off screen. Or you are.

[Narrator/Reporter]

But this rising star couldn't be held down. And soon enough, Gavin ascended to governor, A role that would finally allow him to tackle important issues like homelessness and high speed rail.

[Michael Costa]

You can see the progress we've actually made. They're laying tracks to get to where they start to lay the tracks.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Soon, this futuristic bullet train will take people from the thriving hub of Merced all the way to the shining metropolis of Bakersfield. But governor Newsom has also faced setbacks, like having to hide half of his moneymaker during the pandemic and making some hard choices, like limiting public gatherings. Well, most public gatherings.

[Michael Costa]

Newsom broke his own rules by attending a lavish Birthday party at the famed French Laundry restaurant.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Like Chef Keller's short rib soupy, Gavin found himself in hot water.

[Michael Costa]

I made a bad mistake, so I want to apologize to you.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Such emotion, such pathos, such humility. He can do it all. It was a dark time for Gavin. He even faced a statewide recall election. Luckily, the COVID vaccine meant he could show his whole face again, so he won easily. Now, past the pandemic and the recall, no obstacle or small child could stand in his way. He was now totally free to work on his priorities, like high speed rail and homelessness. And this time, he actually made progress because company was coming over.

[Michael Costa]

Folks say, oh, they're just cleaning up this place because all those fancy leaders are coming into town.

[Narrator/Reporter]

That's true. Take note, Hollywood. That's how you appeal to the Chinese market. Soon, Gavin was preparing for the role.

[Michael Costa]

Of a lifetime president, Gavin Newsom, potential.

[Grace Kuhlenschmidt]

Contender to replace the President as a Democratic nominee.

[Narrator/Reporter]

But sadly, that year, there were two even more charismatic stars ready to shine. Then somehow, Donald Trump swept back into the White House and Gavin knew exactly what to do.

[Michael Costa]

We need to change the conversation. And that's why I'm launching a new podcast.

[Narrator/Reporter]

And while Trump was sending his soldiers into the street streets, Gavin was ready to fight back.

[Grace Kuhlenschmidt]

In the tweets, California Governor Gavin Newsom has been mocking President Trump with all cap social media posts.

[Narrator/Reporter]

It turns out Trump was the co star that Gavin had been waiting for his whole career.

[Michael Costa]

A political star perhaps has been born.

[Narrator/Reporter]

And so we ask that you consider Gavin Newsom a screen ready Christian Bale type, ready to tackle chronic problems like homelessness and high speed rail. Plus, he dances while he talks. For some reason, he's a governor with a future as bright as his smile. And as his former carpet mate likes.

[Grace Kuhlenschmidt]

To scream, the best is yet to come.

[Narrator/Reporter]

Gavin Newsom, he's more than a politician, he's a leading man.

[Michael Costa]

When we come back, Ms. Pat will join me on the show. Don't go away.

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[Michael Costa]

Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guest tonight is a comedian, actor and co creator of the Hit Bet series, now in its fifth season, the Ms. Pat Show. Please welcome Ms. Pat. Come on.

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We made it.

[Michael Costa]

You made it.

[Ms. Pat]

Oh, we made it.

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You made it.

[Michael Costa]

I mean, I remember 12 years ago I was performing in Indianapolis. You were at the club. You said, can I do a quick little guest spot? I said yes. And I learned right away don't ever give Ms. Pat the mic. You are so funny. You've been so funny. This show is great.

[Ms. Pat]

Thank you.

[Michael Costa]

How are you feeling about it all?

[Ms. Pat]

I never thought it would last five seasons and you know, every time they keep renewing it, it's the people. We've been nominated for three Eminem's first time forever for BET plus. So I'm just, you know, if it ends tomorrow, I did what I came to do.

[Michael Costa]

I mean, it looks like this traditional sitcom and except and Everybody Loves Raymond, his brother's car won't start in Family Ties. There's a problem at the high school prom. The Ms. Pat Show. You're harboring an immigrant from ICE. Yes. I mean, it's real shit.

[Ms. Pat]

You cover it is because you know what I would say. The networks are so scared today to tell the truth. And I. You know, immigrants are in my neighborhood. Be honest. All of us is from somewhere else.

[Sponsor/Announcer]

Yeah.

[Ms. Pat]

This is nobody country.

[Michael Costa]

I don't know.

[Ms. Pat]

I don't know who told smallpecker white men that this is their country. But it's not. And without immigrants, what does this country will be? We can't laugh.

[Michael Costa]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ms. Pat]

So last year, when we got together, we decided to do an episode. And it was hard doing this episode. Cause the network pulled it twice. Not only did they pull it twice, they edited it. It was so much more that y' all won't get to see. Because they was like, no, no, no. But I'm glad they finally let it go.

[Michael Costa]

Yeah.

[Ms. Pat]

And, you know, we just wanna make a stand on real things in life. Cause we tired of everything. Put in a cookie cutter.

[Michael Costa]

It's great. I mean, immigration, lgbtq, sexual, gay daughter abuse.

[Ms. Pat]

I've been sexual abused.

[Michael Costa]

I mean, it is. It is an excellent show. It is raw. And when I watch it, I'm going, oh, this is Ms. Pat.

[Ms. Pat]

Yes, it is.

[Michael Costa]

This is your point of view. Excellent job pulling it off. You swear like crazy in it. I mean. I mean, it shit. You have a whole season, three different times. It's like, he eat my good. And I'm like, oh, this. This is a sitcom.

[Ms. Pat]

No, I never said, nobody eat my good. That's been since the 90s.

[Michael Costa]

Okay?

[Ms. Pat]

And I am a Christian now.

[Michael Costa]

Okay.

[Ms. Pat]

But we do curse. Because I curse in my everyday life. And I didn't want to be a mama. You know, they never betrayed a mother like me on tv. But let's be honest. No matter what your race is, I might not be your mama or your aunt, but you know, somebody like. And that's the person that I betray. And people think in real life, oh, my God. You my mama, you my aunt. I don't know you, but I can be that on tv.

[Michael Costa]

It's excellent. Was there pushback from the network on swearing? And.

[Ms. Pat]

Well, let me say this. We started out at Fox. Fox sold out to Hulu. And I said the N word. And Hulu said, hell, no, and dropped the show. And BET said, well, come on over here, black people. We'll let you be black.

[Michael Costa]

I love that. So, see, I didn't. I wasn't aware of the journey that.

[Ms. Pat]

It was five years creating that show, along with three writers. So many. I used to. It was a running joke for me. I was like, everybody has had a piece of the Ms. Pat show. And you know TV, you don't get a chance to recreate the same show three times. I was lucky. I got three deals and recreated that show three times. And I found a young man by the name of Jordan E. Cooper who understood my voice, who listened to me and helped me created the Ms. Pat Show.

[Michael Costa]

This is crazy to me because I'm just picturing us in some shitty comedy club green room.

[Ms. Pat]

Yes.

[Michael Costa]

You know, and again, I never should have given you the microphone. But you made it. I mean, it's not just the Ms. Pat show. You also your stand up specials. You made it.

[Ms. Pat]

Did we do Last comics standing together?

[Michael Costa]

I mean, we did last comic stand. I think I got eliminated pretty quickly, but we can. No, I think you went farther than me. I think we went farther. What was this cooking show you're doing? Cause you famously do not cook.

[Ms. Pat]

I do not cook. I don't know how to cook. A lot of people think I can cook, Mike. Cause I'm a plus size woman. This is strictly chick fil a body. Okay? But I decided one day, I was sitting there, I said, I can't cook. And it's the same old cooking shows all the time. I said, why don't I invite people into my home and show me how to cook? And I just started inviting people. Now I got people booked all the way up to March and April. And it's really cool. Cause we talk about real life and we really making the meal. And I'm really learning too now. I ain't gonna tell you. I'm gonna go do it again.

[Michael Costa]

Right? What are you learning? Where are you emotionally with our current political situation?

[Ms. Pat]

I'm at the same place you at.

[Michael Costa]

Okay.

[Ms. Pat]

I watch you every night.

[Michael Costa]

Okay. What preparations are you taking, if anything?

[Ms. Pat]

Doom day. So. So I've never been scared in my life. You know, I grew up in the inner city of Atlanta and I grew up in the places where white people have a vision of what black lives are like. That's what I grew up in. And I never had to buy gas masks in the hood. I got me two gas masks. I did not buy the kids one. Cause they cost a lot of money.

[Michael Costa]

Makes sense.

[Ms. Pat]

So the kids are gonna have to use a towel. If it come down to put the.

[Michael Costa]

T shirt up over the face.

[Ms. Pat]

Yeah, put the towel. I got really thick towels I stole from the hotel. Please steal from the hotel. They got really nice towels. And in my garage, I have two garages and they're just full of stuff. And my husband's like, what Is. And I was like, y' all don't understand what's coming. We might be stuck in our house. You know, ICE might. When they get through with Hispanic people, you know, we next. Yeah, we next. And I want you to come to my house, you jump my fist, and you gonna be chicken breast.

[Michael Costa]

Yeah.

[Grace Kuhlenschmidt]

I'm sorry.

[Ms. Pat]

I'm sorry. I don't have a fence. I have a gate.

[Michael Costa]

Right. Fair enough. You made it. You gotta get your.

[Ms. Pat]

I have not made it, Mike. I'm doing okay. Hey, you gotta stop saying that. I got relatives out there.

[Michael Costa]

Okay. Sorry. Damn.

[Ms. Pat]

I have not made it. I work for Costa. Soon as I get. Soon as you show this, everybody gonna be hitting me up through Facebook and say, the white man said you made it.

[Michael Costa]

You're in the fifth season of the Ms. Pat Show. Unbelievable.

[Ms. Pat]

I'm a PA.

[Michael Costa]

But in seriousness, I mean. I mean, your story is insane.

[Ms. Pat]

Yes.

[Michael Costa]

You've been shot twice.

[Ms. Pat]

I have.

[Michael Costa]

You have been sexually abused.

[Ms. Pat]

Oh, yes. Many times.

[Michael Costa]

You've lost a nipple. You've been incarcerated.

[Ms. Pat]

Yes.

[Michael Costa]

Yet here we are as a comedian, making art, making content. How would you advise younger people out there who aren't so sure of their path at the current moment?

[Ms. Pat]

I just tell people, believe in yourself. Nobody's gonna believe in you like you believe in yourself. There was so many times when I started to tell my story about what I had been. Had two kids by a married man by the time I was 15. Got shot, been in prison, dropped out of school in eighth grade, had been through so much, so many people did not believe in me and told me to stop. So many people say, how dare you talk about, you know, being sexual, being molested. How dare you talk about being shot and selling drugs? I said, this is my story, so I'm gonna tell it. So believe in yourself. Cause nobody's gonna believe in you like you believe in yourself. And I told my husband 20 years ago, I said, I'm gonna. I'm gonna make you retire. Guess what, y'?

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[Ms. Pat]

My husband is retired. Because I believe in my sister.

[Michael Costa]

Oh, I love that. Thank you for your word. You're so funny. You've always been funny. Please stay as funny as you are. The Ms. Pat show is now streaming on BET. Give it up for Ms. Pat. I'm gonna Quick mic. Be right back after this. You're the best. Thank you, Ms. Pat.

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[Michael Costa]

We heard you. Nine years of bring back the Snack Wrap and you've won. But maybe you should have asked for more. Say hello to the Hot Honey Snack Wrap.

[Ms. Pat]

Now you've really won.

[Michael Costa]

Go to McDonald's and get it while you can. That's our show for tonight. Now here it is, your moment of zam. A stunning admission in federal court today reveals the government is being, in their words, over overwhelmed by Operation Metro Surge.

[Grace Kuhlenschmidt]

A Department of justice attorney told a judge that the federal government system for processing and responding to immigration cases, quote, sucks.

[Michael Costa]

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