Trump Gets Made-Up “Champion of Coal” Award & Guts EPA Regulations | Mayor Jacob Frey

Summary

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The Daily Show: Ears Edition

Episode: Trump Gets Made-Up “Champion of Coal” Award & Guts EPA Regulations | Mayor Jacob Frey
Date: February 13, 2026
Host: Jordan Klepper
Main Guest: Mayor Jacob Frey (Minneapolis)

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Overview

This episode is classic The Daily Show: acerbic political satire with a focus on current events involving former President Donald Trump being awarded a tongue-in-cheek “Champion of Coal” honor, Trump’s dramatic gutting of EPA regulations, and a feature segment on American digital nomads gentrifying Mexico City. The episode concludes with an in-depth interview with Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey on immigration enforcement and civic protest in his city.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump’s “Champion of Clean Coal” Award & Regulatory Rollbacks

• Fake Awards for Real Policies:
  Trump receives a made-up award — the “Undisputed Champion of Beautiful Clean Coal” — from a lobby group, spinning up a sharp critique of both the performative nature of such recognitions and their linkage to actual policy rollbacks.
  • “Congratulations to Donald Trump on winning the inaugural award for undisputed champion of beautiful clean coal. And so soon after winning the inaugural FIFA Peace Prize.” (Jordan Klepper, 01:31)
• Satirizing Trump’s Acceptance:
  Klepper parodies Trump’s acceptance, mocking his praise for coal miners and likening the pageantry to childlike play-acting and narcissistic spectacle.
  • “If this was a toddler saying their first words, I'd... But for a president of the United States who's actively having an aneurysm, I'm also pretty impressed.” (Klepper, 03:05)
• Executive Order Favoring Coal, EPA Regulation Rollback:
  The real-world impact of this spectacle is Trump’s order directing the Pentagon to purchase power from coal plants and his signing of an executive order stripping the EPA of its main ability to regulate greenhouse gases.
  • “The President this afternoon just stripped the EPA of its most powerful tool to regulate air pollution and greenhouse gases.” (News team, 05:41)
• Mockery of Anti-Science Justifications:
  The segment lampoons administration officials for anti-scientific defenses of increased carbon dioxide.
  • “CO2 was never a pollutant. When we breathe, we emit CO2. Plants need CO2 to survive and grow...” (Interior Secretary Burgum, 06:35)
  • “Now I understand you're a idiot. ... We need water to live, too. But the crew of the Titan submersible is not living extra hard right now.” (Klepper, 06:49)
• Comic Interruption by “The Coal Man”:
  A sketch character, “Coal Man Coulerson,” calls in to dispute Trump’s newfound coal champion status, satirizing "real" vs. "performative" coal enthusiasm, in surreal fashion.
  • “I mine coal, I burn coal, I eat coal bricks, and I piss coal dust. Frankly, that does not sound normal.” (Coal Man, 08:42)
  • “Cole can be gay when you're down in these mines long enough.” (Coal Man, 09:53)

Timestamps

• Award segment begins: 01:22
• Coal Man sketch: 07:30–11:00
• EPA rollback commentary: 05:41–07:10

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2. Digital Nomads & Gentrification in Mexico City

• Digital Nomads as New “Immigrants”:
  Reporter Grace Colenschmitt profiles American remote workers flooding Mexico City, poking fun at their self-concept and the economic ripple effects.
  • “Opportunity, prosperity, freedom. That's the American dream. And in recent years, migrants have gone through hell... So I sat down with one of these brave migrants who ventured here in search of a better life.” (Colenschmitt, 13:06)
• Lifestyle Lampooning:
  Americans describe casual lifestyles, inadvertently highlighting cultural insensitivity and privilege.
  • “Usually wake up around 9, 9:30, maybe 10. Really freaky early… get a coffee, dance with some Taylor Swift.” (Henley, 13:54)
• Rising Costs, Displacement, and Cultural Erosion:
  On-the-ground interviews show locals’ frustrations as rent and cost of living soar, spurred by dollar-wielding expats.
  • “You come in here with dollars and price is out because we cannot compete with that. And at the same time, there have been many cases of eviction… Airbnb...” (Activist Carla, 16:19)
  • “Sometimes you do hear more Spanish in Brooklyn than you do here in Condesa.” (Carla/Klepper, 16:49)
• Expat vs. Migrant Semantics:
  Americans resist the label “migrant,” highlighting privilege and problematic double standards.
  • “I don't really feel like a migrant. I feel like an expat.” (Henley, 18:40)
  • “Say it proud. I'm a migrant.” (Colenschmitt & Henley, 18:51)
• Satirical Solution:
  Integration is depicted as eating fiery local food... with predictable gastrointestinal consequences.
  • “Okay, this quesadilla is so good, I'm never leaving. Also, I literally can't get up because I shit my pants.” (Colenschmitt, 19:23)

Timestamps

• Segment begins: 13:05
• Local interviews: 14:43–16:53
• Language/identity discussion: 18:15–18:51

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3. Interview: Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey on ICE Surges and Local Resistance

Headline Issue:

Minneapolis had become a battleground in federal immigration enforcement — “Operation Metro Surge.” The episode interviews Mayor Jacob Frey about government resistance, civic protest, and national implications.

Key Topics:

• ICE Drawdown Skepticism:
  Mayor Frey expresses disbelief in federal promises to withdraw ICE, instead crediting local residents’ resistance.
  • “I will believe it when I see it... Give it to the 435,000 Minneapolis residents… They are the defenders of this great republic in this moment.” (Frey, 22:45)
• Ground-Level Impact of ICE Presence:
  Details on how the operation has upended daily life for immigrants and the city’s response through legal action, support, and city-wide protest.
  • “We have seen a variety of unconstitutional acts… Never in a million years would I think that a federal government would be invading a great American city.” (Frey, 24:17)
• Commitment to Lawful Resistance:
  Frey outlines legal challenges and rental assistance as practical responses, emphasizing peaceful protest and body cameras on police to safeguard evidence.
  • “We are preemptively and responsively suing… just approved rental assistance… have our community service officers delivering groceries and food...” (Frey, 31:57)
• Balance as a Pragmatic Progressive:
  Navigating allyship with activists and adhering to rule of law, Frey calls for loving cities “more than our ideology” and “not countering Trump’s chaos with our own.”
  • “We've got to be loving our cities... more than our ideology. When it comes to loving our neighbors, that's an area where you just don't back down.” (Frey, 29:50)
• Lessons for Other Cities & Call to Action:
  Frey suggests that the Minneapolis experience is a warning for other cities, urging American voices to speak up and even come visit for solidarity.
  • “One of the best things you can do for Minneapolis right now is come to Minneapolis.” (Frey, 37:18)
  • “To do your duty as a great American. Come to our city. ... Show this administration that when you come for one of us, you come for all of us.” (Frey, 38:03)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You do not hold an entire community accountable. You do not hold an entire city accountable for the actions of a few.” (Frey, 28:32)
• “Don't take the bait. ... We're not going to counter Donald Trump's chaos with our own.” (Frey, 30:30)
• “God bless the people that are out there delivering food, those that are peacefully protesting... that's a public service. That's patriotic in of itself because you're adding sunshine as a disinfectant.” (Frey, 30:07)
• “We operate in the reality business. ... Whether you're Mayor Mamdani or even Mayor Rudy Giuliani, even he recognized the importance of having a separation ordinance.” (Frey, 35:18)

Timestamps

• Interview begins: 22:19
• ICE skepticism and local protest: 22:45–25:10
• Legal and practical responses: 31:57–33:28
• Support and call to action: 36:51–38:43

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Notable Quotes by Timestamp

• Trump Coal Award Mockery:
  “If this was a toddler saying their first words…I’m also pretty impressed.” (Jordan Klepper, 03:05)

• EPA Rollback Satire:
  “Goddammit. Where’s Captain Planet when you need him?” (Klepper, 05:46)

• Digital Nomads Skewered:
  “I don’t really feel like a migrant. I feel like an expat.” (Henley, 18:40)
  “Say it proud. I’m a migrant.” (Colenschmitt & Henley, 18:51)

• Mayor Frey on Local Resistance:
  “I will believe it when I see it…Give it to the 435,000 Minneapolis residents…They are the defenders of this great republic in this moment.” (Jacob Frey, 22:45) “We have seen a variety of unconstitutional acts…Never in a million years would I think that a federal government would be invading a great American city.” (Frey, 24:17) “We operate in the reality business.” (Frey, 35:18) “To do your duty as a great American. Come to our city, help us out right now and show this administration that when you come for one of us, you come for all of us.” (Frey, 38:03)

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Language and Tone

The episode blends political wit, exasperation, absurdist comedy, and earnest civic engagement. The tone is biting but hopeful, with satirical sketches (“Coal Man”) and glib field reporting giving way to a sincere, passionate conversation with Mayor Frey.

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Summary Table

| Segment | Start | Key Topics | |-----------------------------------------------|----------|-----------------------------------------| | Trump “Champion of Coal” Award | 01:22 | Satirical award, executive orders, EPA | | EPA Rollback/CO2 Defense Parody | 05:41 | Regulation cuts, anti-science argument | | The Coal Man sketch | 07:30 | Real vs. fake coal enthusiasm | | Digital Nomads Mexico City | 13:05 | Gentrification, expat privilege | | Mayor Jacob Frey Interview | 22:19 | ICE surge, local resistance, call to action |

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For Listeners Who Missed the Show

This episode expertly blends satire and substance, skewering Trump’s coal posturing with mock awards and comic sketches while landing real critique on environmental policy rollbacks. The field segment unmasks the cultural arrogance of America's “digital nomads” in Mexico City, and Mayor Jacob Frey’s interview is a rallying cry for local resistance and national attention to civil liberties under threat.

Whether you tune in for comedy, analysis, or a dose of civic inspiration, this episode delivers on all fronts — with enough wit and intelligence to make even the most sober subject matter sharply engaging.

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Transcript

[A]

This episode is brought to you by Ninjalux Cafe, the three in one machine that makes espresso, drip coffee, and cold brew. No barista skills required. You're listening to Comedy Central. From the most trusted journalists at Comedy Central. It's America's only source for news. This is the Daily show with your host, Jordan Clover. Welcome to the Daily Show. I'm Jordan Klopper. We got so much to talk about. Tonight, Trump adds a new trophy to his fake award shelf. Immigrants are ruining Mexico. And we'll talk about the big Minneapolis news with the mayor himself, Jacob Fry. He'll be here. So let's get into the headlines. You know, we are in the thick of awards season, which means only a few more weeks of pretending. I saw Hamnet, which I loved, obviously. All the ham and the nets. And when the ham went into the nets, you know, masterfully done. Anyway, yesterday, another major award was presented. The Washington Coal Club presented the president.

[B]

With the inaugural undisputed champion of beautiful clean coal award. The Kofi says, the undisputed champion of beautiful clean coal.

[A]

Thank you, sir. Oh. Incredible. Bravo. Oh, oh, don't, don't, don't. Don't be jealous. Don't dispute the undisputable. You all. Oh, no. Congratulations to Donald Trump on winning the inaugural award for undisputed champion of beautiful clean coal. And so soon after winning the inaugural FIFA Peace Prize. And if you're thinking this guy sure wins a lot of awards that were created just this year for him in particular, you're right. That's why tonight, we're proud to present President Trump with the inaugural award for winning the most inaugural awards. Congratulations to our one and only nominee. But back to the Cole Award. Mr. Trump, would you like to say a few garbled words? You've never had a better friend in the Oval Office than me. And I'm proud to officially name the undisputed. When did this come out? Mr. Speaker? Is it really undisputed? Seems like your brain is disputing it as you speak. If this was a toddler saying their first words, I'd. But for a president of the United States who's actively having an aneurysm, I'm also pretty impressed. Which is why I'm presenting you with our inaugural Best Undisputed Award. Congratulations to President Trump, of course. Of course. Like any award recipient, Trump made sure to thank the little people who did all the actual work. Our amazing coal miners. Thank you very much, fellas. That's great. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You made them keep the hard hats on in the White House, you don't make NFL players wear their helmets when they visit. I mean, why do these poor guys have to. Is this like a Disney World thing where they can't take off the costume in front of Trump because it'll ruin the magic for. Sorry, I interrupted you, Mr. President. Go ahead and show your appreciation for those coal miners in the most condescending way possible. And you wouldn't want to do anything else? You wouldn't switch with a guy who had a beautiful penthouse apartment on Fifth Avenue. You wouldn't switch with that Me? What? What the hell, man? Coal mining is their job. They're not gophers who have to keep digging to file down their nails so they don't grow inward like some biological necessity here. Although, that being said, a. A coal miner switching with a New York billionaire is my favorite Olsen twins movie. So now. You know what? If this were just a silly little award to make the President feel like a special boy, no one would give a shit. But unfortunately, unlike the FIFA Peace Prize, the President seems intent on actually earning this award. The President just signed a new executive order for the Pentagon to buy electricity from US Coal powered plants. Oh, okay. You know what? I don't know what's worse. The fact that Trump is directing our military to prop up the dying coal industry or that Seal Team 6 will now have to travel on coal powered helicopters. Wasaba Bin Laden, put up your hat. Just give me a Marco Polo. Marco. You know what? You know what, Donald Trump, you may want to promote coal, but don't forget this country has something called Environmental Protection Agency. And I think the EPA will have something to say about that. So the President this afternoon just stripped.

[B]

The EPA of its most powerful tool to regulate air pollution and greenhouse gases.

[A]

Goddammit. Where's Captain Planet when you need him? Okay. Yep. I'm being told Captain Planet was deported to South Sudan. Shit. Okay, right. All right, fine. So Trump is killing the EPA's ability to regulate all the worst sources of greenhouse gas emissions. Power plants, cars and trucks, Sean Penn, all of them. It's going to have a devastating impact on human health and the environment. Personally, I'm concerned about this.

[C]

What do you tell Americans who are concerned that the $1.3 trillion in savings does come at a cost to public health and the environment? Based on science.

[A]

I tell them, don't worry about it. Oh. Oh, thank God. Because this seems devastating. But if you can't trust the undisputed champion of beautiful clean coal, who can you trust? You know what? Now that I Think about it. Are you saying, worry about it like it's going to be fine, or don't worry about it like what a mobster says while he drives you to an empty field? I mean, Trump clearly doesn't understand the science behind this. Interior Secretary Doug Burgum, can you ease my mind about all the carbon dioxide we're going to be pumping into our already overheated atmosphere? But CO2 was never a pollutant. When we breathe, we emit CO2. Plants need CO2 to survive and grow. They thrive with more CO2. Now I understand you're a idiot. Okay, okay, look, Nobody is saying CO2 shouldn't exist. The amount is the issue. We need water to live, too. But the crew of the Titan submersible is not living extra hard right now. So, look, look, I know facts hurt. Look, I feel that way, too. But when I take a step back and I look at the consequences on human health and the world at large, and I contemplate the ramifications of all of these actions, there can be no doubt. Donald Trump truly is the undisputed champion of coal. I can't think of anyone else that deserves that award. Not so fast, Jordan Kiefer. Wait, who said that? It's me. The coal man, Coulerson. I am the real undisputed champion of coal, and I'm coming for that title. Donald Trump. I'm sorry, what do you mean you're the real champion of coal? Did I stutter? No one touches me when it comes to coal. I mine coal, I burn coal, I eat coal bricks, and I piss coal dust. Frankly, that does not sound normal. It's not. My doctors are baffled, but I still love that beautiful, sweet coal. Everything I have is coal. My tv, my blender, my wife's vibrator. Wait, wait, your wife's vibrator? Did I stutter? No. Look, Mr. Kohlerson. Call me the coal man. Mr. Kohlerson's my father. We're not on good terms. Sorry, Coalman. I don't think you should take this personally. They just made this up for Trump to secure profits for the coal industry. It's a fake award, Jordan. Every award is fake. You think you're. Your Emmys are so real. Hey, the Emmys are real, you son of a bitch. You take that back. Okay, okay. Sorry, I touched a nerve. I sincerely apologize. Okay, that's fine. Accepted. Accepted. But you. You really think you deserve this Cole Award more than Donald Trump does? Of course. Okay. Trump is a coal poser. He only loves beautiful, clean coal. I love all coal, dirty coal, ugly coal, black coal, gay co. Cole can be gay when you're down in these mines long enough. It can, But that's where I belong. I belong in the mines. Except Saturday nights when I'm at Lincoln center watching the hit Broadway revival of Ragtime. Is that because the main character's name is Coalhouse? Of course. Okay, gotcha, gotcha. If Trump thinks he can take that title away from me, I will shove Cole so far up his ass, he'll be pooping diamonds. Wow. Wow, really? Did I stutter? No, you didn't stutter. Good, because I do have a stutter, and I've been working on it in speech therapy. Donald Trump has nothing on me when it comes to coal. I don't know, man. I know you love coal, but Donald Trump just repealed the entire legal foundation for regulating emissions. America's climate policy is effectively over. Holy shit, brother. I love coal. But we do need a few common sense regulations. We gotta be able to breathe, right? Queefer Klepper. It's Clepper, Essentially.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. Well, that doesn't scare me, Jordan, because I'm still coming for that title with this. Okay. And with this. Why do you have a dead canary? Oh, no, Mr. Feathers, he's dead. He's the only father I've ever known. We had tickets to Ragtime. I'm sorry, Cole The Cold Man Culerson, everyone. When we come back, we discover another immigration crisis. Don't go. From visionary creator Kenya Barris, creator of Black Ish, comes Big Age, the hilarious and heartwarming Audible original comedy about love, aging and finding your way in life's next chapter. Big Age stars comedy legends Jennifer Lewis, Cedric the Entertainer and Niecy Nash Betts. Big Age follows recently retired couple Dot and Butch Watts, reluctant relocation to their new Floridian home, Sunset Gardens, a senior community that is anything but relaxing. In Barris Retirement Community, Dot and Butch encounter a parade of unforgettable personalities who push their 50 year marriage to the limit. There's Butch's flirtatious ex, flame Ethel, played by Nash Betts, spiritually possessed neighbors, pesky pill pushing couples, and the ferociously competitive Stevenator. Through its blend of outrageous comedy, Key Party anyone. And touching revelations, Big Age explores what it means to grow older without growing old at heart. Listen to Kenya Barris new laugh out loud Audible original comedy Big Age. Starring Jennifer Lewis, Cedric the Entertainer and Niecy Nash Betts, Big Age does funny things. Go to audible.com bigageseries to start listening today. Welcome back to the Daily Show. There's been a lot of talk about America's immigration crisis, but we're not the only country with one. Grace Colenschmitt has more.

[C]

Opportunity, prosperity, freedom. That's the American dream. And in recent years, migrants have gone through hell, crossing borders, risking life and limb to achieve that American dream here in Mexico City. So I sat down with one of these brave migrants who ventured here in search of a better life. So where are you from? Colombia, Nicaragua, Venezuela. I'm actually from Atlanta. Atlanta, where is that? Georgia.

[A]

Whoa.

[C]

Henley is something called a digital nomad. A group of wanderers who work remotely in foreign countries. And they've been pouring into Mexico City by the thousands, bringing the hard working mentality that immigrants are known for. Usually wake up around 9, 9:30, maybe 10. Really freaky early. Usually walk around the park, get a coffee, dance with some Taylor Swift, come back, work for a few hours on my computer. I do marketing for a social media analytics company. That is really hard. And then it's margarita time, baby. Everything is so much cheaper here. You can just go out, order as many drinks as you want, and your bill's like 70 bucks for the whole night. I can see why they risk so much to come here, but is this American welcome in Mexico? I hit the streets to ask real Mexicans what they think. How do you feel about digital nomads in Mexico City?

[A]

Yeah, you don't got to translate.

[C]

I speak English. You are not a local. So how many generations has your family been here?

[B]

Zero. None.

[C]

Your abuelita doesn't live around here.

[B]

She's in Boca.

[A]

I'm from Montana originally.

[C]

I'm actually from Austin, Texas. I'm from San Francisco. Okay. California. And none of those are places is in Mexico.

[A]

Correct.

[C]

I couldn't find a single Mexican, but the American immigrants were taking over everything. Mexicans must be loving that.

[A]

Mexico City, where another protest against unaffordable housing and gentrification took place over the weekend.

[C]

Residents there saying some neighborhoods that are popular with digital nomads are leading to rising costs making their own neighborhoods too expensive for them to live. Uh oh. Seems like not everyone was happy. I went to an open house to talk to a realtor about the impact these immigrants were having on the housing market.

[A]

Hi. Hi. Do come in. Nice to meet you.

[C]

And I was stunned by what I saw. This is ridiculous. Americans were renting two bedroom apartments like this for only $600 a month. That is such a good deal.

[A]

Oh my God. I take it you're interested in the Lease.

[C]

Would you like me to send over the papers?

[A]

I'd love it here.

[C]

But I still had to meet with an anti immigration activist, so I invited her to my new perspective. What's Mexican for pied a terre? She insisted on wearing a mask. Probably so she could harass digital nomads without getting doxxed. Okay, Carla, let's get down to what's really important. What do you think of this place? I'm thinking of relocating and I want to really love it. I mean, that is the main issue. You come in here with dollars and price is out because we cannot compete with that. And at the same time, there have been many cases of eviction of places to be turned into kind of like this Airbnb. Carla was clearly giving some get off my lawn energy.

[A]

Did you hear me? I said get off my lawn.

[C]

And like your racist uncle, she was mad. Things aren't the way they used to be. Even the culture itself is changing at its core. Sometimes you do hear more sense Spanish.

[A]

In Brooklyn, you know, than you do here in Condesa.

[C]

You said Condesa. Now is that cool neighborhood where there's matcha places. C O n D E S A. One of the main issues is that like la salsas yano pican, like spice, like salsas are not spicy anymore because now they're catering to that gentrified palate. And I'm not arguing, I'm just saying a gentrified palate is the reason we do have the culinary delicacy of ranch. I want to be appreciated over your cultural traditions of ranch. There's always going to be that exchange of cultures and migration of movement. We just want you to do it in a way that you're not making us lose our homes. Okay, that actually sounds reasonable, but is this message from the protesters getting through to Henley, or is she guzzling down enough tequila to drown it out? Most of our friends that are from here are doctors or lawyers or business owners. And from what I've heard from them, it's generally more of the low income people that are protesting. It is heartwarming to know that at least we're not gentrifying rich people out of their neighborhoods. It is heartwarming. Maybe I could bridge the gap. How should these digital nomads behave so that these gringos can turn into gring stays?

[A]

I worked really hard on that joke.

[C]

Try and respond perspectives. Try and learn some Spanish and start paying taxes. I'm not paying Mexican taxes because I pay American taxes and I don't have legal status here. And you know what's the point? The point is to contribute to the people and the infrastructure in which the city that you live. But TPH is so much paperwork. So I get it. Why would you? Many of them come and they call themselves expats because they don't even want.

[A]

To take that name of migrant.

[C]

I don't really feel like a migrant. I feel like an expat. Why don't you feel like a migrant? Isn't a migrant like someone who.

[A]

I.

[C]

Guess I am a migrant. I'm a frickin migrant. Say it proud. I'm a migrant. You just made every single person in Texas hate you. Turns out you can be both a migrant and a gentrifier. But in Mexico City, the key to being a good gringo isn't retreating into the creature comforts of home. It's immersing yourself in the rich cultural traditions of your adopted country, even if it lights your frigging guts on fire. Okay, this quesadilla is so good, I'm never leaving. Also, I literally can't get up because I shit my pants.

[A]

Thank you, Grace. When we come back, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry will be joining me on the show. Don't go away.

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It's a huge day.

[A]

Yeah, it's a huge day. Let's start with what happened this morning. Border czar Tom Homan said that he is withdrawing ICE agents from Minneapolis. He says he has talked to Donald Trump and that Operation Metro surge is over. Do you call bullshit on that? Is that really happening? Where are we at with it?

[B]

I will believe it when I see it. And if you're looking for anybody to give credit to for the end of Operation Metro surge, for the pressure that was put on the federal government for these incredible patriotic acts that have taken place over the last month and a half, give it to the 435,000 Minneapolis residents and have stood up. I mean, they are truly an inspiration. They have been protesting peacefully by the tens of thousands. They've been dropping off food for people that are otherwise scared to go outside and leave their homes. They're watching guard on a daycare. I mean, they are the defenders of this great republic in this moment. I mean, they are everything that it means to be.

[A]

I mean, it has been remarkable to see what the protesters have been doing in Minneapolis. I think there's still a lot of questions, right, about whether or not you can trust the Trump administration to follow up on its word. Do you have any knowledge right now of ISA agents being removed? I know there were 700 that were promised to be removed a few weeks ago. Like, I'm seeing things online. At least I was this past week. Images of ICE agents changing tactics and not leaving. Do you have any sense of what is happening right now on the ground?

[B]

Both my hope and my expectation is that this operation will be drawn down in the very near future. And by the very near future, I mean, in the next week or so and simultaneously, like I said, we'll believe it when I see it. We have seen a variety of unconstitutional acts that have taken place on the streets of Minneapolis, the kinds of things that have happened. Never in a million years would I think that a federal Government would be invading a great American city. And so it is my expectation that it will be drawn down. It is my hope that it will end. And here's the thing. It's not good enough for it to end in Minneapolis and then go to terrorize some other great American city.

[A]

What do you do? What do you do if a week from now, there's still 2,000 ICE agents in Minneapolis?

[B]

Well, look, we do everything that we can do under the law. We are preemptively suing. We have recognized that the kind of discriminatory actions that have taken, that have taken place are not just in violation of local law, but they violate the United States Constitution. I am expecting. I am hopeful again that in this next week, it will not just be drawn down. The Operation Metro surge will end. It will be back to the numbers that we saw before. And by the way, ICE has been in Minneapolis. ICE has been throughout the country for, like, decades now. We're not talking about ICE doing normal ICE stuff. What we saw was these roaming gangs walking down the street, terrorizing people, detaining them exclusively based on the fact that they looked like they're Somali or Latino, and then indiscriminate pickups thereafter. You can't do that in America. That happens in other countries. But when it happens here, it shouldn't be a Democrat issue or a Republican issue. It should be. Hang on a second. This is not how we conduct ourselves in this nation. We gotta stand up.

[A]

And our neighbors are. I'm curious, a lot of cities are looking at Minneapolis to see what happens if this lands in their city next and what happens to America, both from a protest standpoint, but also from a governmental standpoint. Tom Homan called this a success. I'm curious what conversations you had with Homan, what concessions you had to make. Like, what was given up for Tom Homan to feel this was a success.

[B]

Well, first off, we did not capitulate. We did not back down. Clearly. Look, this was not about safety from the very beginning. This was not about immigration. This was about creating a political narrative about a democratic city in a democratic state and trying to show that these are places of chaos. But what we showed is that we're not going to back down. We're not going to get bullied. What we showed is that we're going to stand up for our neighbors. And, you know, here's the thing.

[A]

Is that what Homan is responding to, I can't say. Do you feel like he felt that was the police force? Did you allow the police force to get into the prison system. And, like, did he feel that he was. He was being met with care with the police force there? I know there's been a lot of criticism with the protesters in Minneapolis about the use of police and whether or not they're helping ICE with the protesters that are there. Like, how do you look back on what happened, and do you feel like they're starting to craft a different narrative about what actually happened on the ground?

[B]

Well, I'll tell you what has been happening on the ground, not just for the last, like, month and a half, but for the last several years. Yeah, we do work with the federal government when it comes to keeping people safe. We work with the DEA and the FBI and the ATF and the U.S. attorney's office to successfully drive down crime and, yes, arrest criminals. You know, I'll take a position that I think is one of the easiest positions I've ever taken before, which is in Minneapolis, we're anti murder and we're anti rape. I. You know, and the strength, you know, I mean, bold.

[A]

Bold positions. Bold positions. Very bold.

[B]

And if this were about that, yeah, we do work with the federal government. We work with any administration that is about keeping people safe. But here's the thing. It's not based on where someone is from. The important piece here. If you commit a murder or if you do something bad in the United States, you're held accountable as an individual. You do not hold an entire community accountable. You do not hold an entire city accountable for the actions of a few.

[A]

I'm curious as I look at what's happened in Minneapolis, and the activists in Minneapolis have taken on a lot of responsibilities. And you spoke to what is happening. People are staying home because they're afraid of ICE agents out there. And so other families are getting food to people who are in their homes, people who can't go to work. There's an organization to let people know when ICE is in certain neighborhoods. And then you have. You have progressive activists who are trying to stop ice, and then you have a progressive mayor who is a practical progressive. I know you call yourself, whatever you want to call it, a pragmatist, if you will. But what is the role? How do you balance a progressive, pragmatist mayor who wants to push back against ICE and activists who are doing so much. Is there a way you can help them more? How do you walk that line?

[B]

You do the right thing. I mean, I have long said that we've got to be loving our cities. We've got to be loving our country more. Than our ideology. And when it comes to loving our neighbors, that's an area where you just don't back down and you don't compromise. We have said very clearly you should be peacefully protesting to those that are out there in the public square videotaping what's happening. Well, that's a public service. That's patriotic in of itself because you're adding sunshine as a disinfectant. I mean, I mean, imagine if we didn't have visual footage of what took place during the killing of Alex Preddy. We'd be running with this garbage narrative that has no basis in fact or law. We would, I don't know, maybe be believing what this administration was saying, and we would all be living a lie. And so God bless the people that are out there videotaping. That's their constitutional right to do so. By the way, it's in public. You know, it's called in public for a reason. God bless the people that are out there delivering food, those that are peacefully protesting. And what we've said, and you asked about the balance, it's quite simply, this is. Don't take the bait. You know, we're not going to counter Donald Trump's chaos with our own brand of chaos in Minneapolis. We're going to stand up for what's right. We're going to stand up for our neighbors. And, yeah, we also abide by the law. Let that be a juxtaposition against what they're doing at the federal government.

[A]

But how do you do. So that's. I think you are articulating. You're articulating counsel for the activists. But are there things that you can do as a mayor? Can you stop eviction, evictions from happening? Can you freeze rent? And I know that sometimes happens at the state level, and maybe that's more so using your weight to get Governor Walz to enact that type of change. Like, is there more that you can do? Is there more you're considering doing to help these protesters who are taking on these jungle amounts?

[B]

The answer is yes. First, we are preemptively and responsively suing. We have an entire legal department that is set up to make sure that they're protecting the rights not just of our city enterprise, but of Minneapolis residents. Second, we've got a whole emergency management function. Third, we just approved rental assistance that is targeted towards the people that hopefully need it most. And I gotta say, like, for an administration that talks about caring so deeply about the economy, this has been devastating for the economy. Businesses have lost money the people who work at those businesses aren't able to pay the rent. And so we need to be doing everything possible to help them out, to get them rental support. We've got our community service officers that are out there delivering groceries and food to people that need it most. We're making sure that our police officers themselves have their body cameras on and activated. So to the extent that they witness something that is against the law, we can then use that evidence in court. These are just a few things that we're working on right now. And. And the reality is, is that when you've got a federal government that is coming in with three to 4,000 federal agents and you've got only 600 police officers, yeah, there's a differential there. But what American cities can show right now is that we do not act like the federal government does. We stand up for our constituents and we're gonna do right by them.

[A]

Now, you're. You also. You met today here in New York with our mayor mom, Donnie. Yeah. I'm curious. What is that exchange of ideas? What does that meeting look like? Are you trying to figure out how you get that? Mamdani Riz.

[B]

It's never going to happen.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What stories are you guys swapping? And more specifically, I'm sure some of that has to do with what is happening in Minneapolis and what a mayor of a town like New York can do to prepare for something or something like that.

[B]

Yeah. Well, first we talked about Queens. It's where most of my family is from, from Fresh Meadows. You talked about bagels.

[A]

You talked about that in bagels. Yeah. There might be more important things going on right now, Mayor. Yeah, that's great.

[B]

And we got to that, too.

[A]

How are those Minneapolis bagels, by the way?

[B]

Yeah, we got some. Actually, we've got some great bagel spots in Minneapolis, believe it or not. We're coming into our own in a really beautiful way. Everybody's talking about in both Minneapolis and in New York. That's right. Step aside, New York City. You know, we also talked about the fact that this is not a time to, like, bow your head in despair. You're not going to avoid this kind of invasion by not speaking up and not speaking out. I've heard from both elected officials. I heard from CEOs that, well, we don't want to attract any attention. Well, here's the thing. We should all be paying attention to what's going on right now. We should all be speaking out by not saying something. By not saying something, you're going to Subject the next city and the next one after that to being subjected to this kind of unconstitutional action. I think what's clear is they're trying to enact a national agenda based on coercion of local policies and principles, trying to get us to abandon our separation ordinance, which says very clearly that we do not enforce federal immigration law. And, you know, these are principles that are really kind of obvious. If you think about it. We, as mayors, we operate in the reality business. And whether you're Mayor Mamdani or even Mayor Rudy Giuliani, even he recognized the importance.

[A]

Big Giuliani fans here, by the way.

[B]

I know. I know him. Even he, though, recognized the importance of having a separation ordinance. Why? Because he wanted everybody to feel comfortable calling 911 when they were witnessing a crime. He didn't want people living a life as a vigilante. He wanted people to call 911 without the fear that they would get deported based on their documentation status. That's not even a moral issue there. That's just smart policy to achieve safety in a city.

[A]

Now, we will see what happens here, whether or not we can trust what happens with the Trump administration, what happens with the ICE agents there. But as you look at a town like Minneapolis, what. What can you tell people? How do they support not only the protesters, but the people of Minneapolis?

[B]

Yeah, I'm sure there's a whole lot of people throughout the country right now that are inspired by activists and hockey moms, by local shopkeepers and fathers that are all standing up and saying, you know what? We love our greater and collective family. They're inspired by these people from Minneapolis. One of the best things that you can do for Minneapolis right now is come to Minneapolis.

[A]

Wait, in February?

[B]

I'm telling you, we embrace winter.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It is stunningly beautiful. We, by the way, are recognized as the happiest city in the entire country.

[A]

Is that right?

[B]

I don't know what criteria they used to arrive at that conclusion, but we are the happiest city I've seen that state fair.

[A]

It might be the access to gluttony that's there. You can eat whatever you want.

[B]

All of it. No. And I'm not from there. I'm from the east coast and I ran the Twin Cities Marathon. I fell in love with this beautiful city in a park. Best park system in the country, by the way.

[A]

You gotta go to one in the center of this city. It's pretty good, too.

[B]

I've heard about it. What is it called? Middle Park.

[A]

Yeah, Middle Park. You should check it out. Yeah, I'll drop a pin for you.

[B]

But come, come, come check it out. Go visit our Somali malls. Go check out these incredible Latino businesses that we have. I mean, these are places that deserve our support right now. You know, I don't want to undermine the fact that this has been catastrophic to small and local businesses throughout our city, that we're on a massive comeback. Crime was dramatically down, business substantially up. Minneapolis, on a great comeback. To do your duty as a great American. Come to our city, help us out right now and show this administration that when you come for one of us, you come for all of us. We stick together.

[A]

There you go. That is the best. Let me tell you, you can truly, you can show you're an American by coming to the Mall of America. Right? Get your ass there. Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry. We're going to take a quick break right back after this.

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