Trump Puppy-Dogs Japan’s New PM and Rants About Magnets to U.S. Troops | Lucy Dacus

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The Daily Show: Ears Edition

Episode: Trump Puppy-Dogs Japan’s New PM and Rants About Magnets to U.S. Troops | Lucy Dacus
Date: October 29, 2025
Host: Jesse Lydic (with Mike, Lucy Dacus, Troy Iwata)

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Episode Overview

This episode blends sharp political satire with pop culture commentary, focusing on President Trump’s diplomatic visit to Japan—including awkward gifts, military speeches, and bizarre magnet obsessions—while the U.S. government shutdown drags on at home. Later, Grammy-winning musician Lucy Dacus joins to discuss writing love songs, coping with fame, and her unique intersection of art and activism.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Government Shutdown and Trump’s Asia Trip

• Shutdown status: As the government shutdown reaches day 20, the team lampoons the country’s increasingly dire situation, covering impacts on air traffic control, SNAP benefits, and general public function.
  • Jesse: “The government still hasn’t come back from buying cigarettes.” (00:11)
• Trump in Japan: Trump visits Japan to meet Sanae Takaichi, the country’s first female Prime Minister.
  • Commentary on the significance (or lack thereof) in Japan, quipping how it would be bigger news if she was "America’s first Japanese female prime minister." (02:01)
• Diplomatic Gifts & Ceremonies:
  • Takaichi gifts Trump a golden golf ball and golf club—much to the panel’s amusement. (03:19)
  • The team riffs on Trump being paraded “like a show dog,” leading to an extended, mock commentary segment on “the old American beaver hound.” (04:22)
  • Jesse: “It kind of makes me wonder if Donald Trump could have a real future as a show dog.” (04:05)

2. Presidential Antics and Magnet Rants

• Awkward interactions: Trump’s ceremonial blunders and the forced camaraderie between leaders are highlighted.
  • Jesse: "Wait, wait, wait, wait. Mr. President, where are you going? Nope, that’s the kitchen." (03:51)
• Address to U.S. Troops:
  • Trump delivers a meandering speech about U.S.-Japan relationships “born out of the ashes of a terrible war,” to visible discomfort from Prime Minister Takaichi. (05:29)
  • Jesse: “That is the look of a woman who’s going to be talking about this ashes of war thing the second they get to the car.” (05:48)
• Magnet obsession:
  • Trump claims new aircraft carriers use magnets, not hydraulic systems, leading to jokes likening his confusion to 1980s infomercials. (07:14)
    • Trump (clip): “You take a little glass of water and you drop it on magnets. I don’t know what’s going to happen.” (07:28)
  • The hosts brutally dissect the nonsense:
    • Jesse: “You don’t know what’s going to happen? If you get water on a magnet, the magnet gets wet. That’s it.” (07:36)
  • Trump also polls troops on their hydraulic vs. magnet preferences for machinery:
    • Jesse: “Which option do you like? The one that I, your boss, prefer, or the one I have an unhinged vendetta against?” (08:44)
  • The segment closes with analysis of Trump’s chronic confusion over magnets, drawing comparisons to a child whose parents wouldn’t put his art on the fridge “because all the magnets got wet.” (09:33)

3. Trump’s Take on "Good-Looking People"

• Trump unexpectedly admits:
  • Trump (clip): “I don’t like good looking people. I never liked good looking people. I’ll be honest with you, I’ve never admitted that before.” (10:02)
  • The team jokes about the paradox, speculating it’s because he’s “attracted to them,” drawing a parallel to magnets (10:20).

4. “Japan Guy” Stereotype Analysis (Troy Iwata in Tokyo)

• Cultural commentary: Troy explains the “Japan Guy” phenomenon—Americans who over-identify with Japanese culture after visiting.
  • Troy: “A white guy goes to Japan, has a great time, you know, and then he comes home obsessed with Japanese culture, talking about all the bullet trains, mounting a katana on his wall, pronouncing it karate like it’s karate. Karate.” (11:34)
  • Hosts and Troy joke about these behaviors, sushi orders, and the different "rolls" (12:25–12:39).
  • Troy draws a comparison between Japan and the U.S. as “dominant” cultures, credits both for “lovers of beef, some of the world’s best and most creative porn.” (13:10)
  • Irony as Troy realizes his own “American guy” tendencies, having sung “Sweet Home Alabama” at karaoke and ordering a cheesesteak in Tokyo (13:32–13:37).

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Memorable Quotes

• On the shutdown:

  • “The government still hasn’t come back from buying cigarettes.” — Jesse Lydic, (00:11)

• On Trump’s ceremony with the PM:

  • “It kind of makes me wonder if Donald Trump could have a real future as a show dog.” — Jesse Lydic, (04:05)

• Satirical breed introduction:

  • “The old American beaver hound... Lively, aggressive, and incredibly horny, the beaver hound is especially popular among rural white families.” — Lucy Dacus, (04:22)

• On gifts from PM Takaichi:

  • “A golf ball covered in gold. That is a combination of two of Trump’s favorite things.” — Jesse Lydic, (03:23)

• On magnets confusion:

  • “You don’t know what’s going to happen? If you get water on a magnet, the magnet gets wet. That’s it. It’s a mag, okay? Not a gremlin.” — Jesse Lydic, (07:36)

• On becoming a “Japan Guy”:

  • “You go over to their house and they answer the door in a kimono asking you to take your shoes off. You’re like, okay, Brandon san, like. You live in a walk up in Brooklyn. My shoes are the cleanest thing here.” — Troy Iwata, (12:04)

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Interview: Lucy Dacus

Segment begins: (15:01)

1. Creativity and Writing Process

• Jesse welcomes Lucy, noting her album “Forever is a Feeling” was dubbed “the most romantic album of 2025.” (16:09)
  • Lucy: “I love love songs that admit that you don’t know everything... Some love songs... I need you forever, or I’ll die without you... Those are great songs, I just don’t think it’s aspirational.” (16:47)
  • Jesse: “You said writing is the research project of my own thoughts. What was the writing process for this album compared to previous ones?” (17:20)
    • Lucy: “On my other records, I was writing about things that happened years ago, like processing them finally. [This time] I need to be thinking about it right now because I have decisions to make. And so it felt very urgent.” (17:38)

2. Coping with Loss and Cynicism in Love Songs

• Discussion of lyrics from “Lost Time” about love’s impermanence.
  • Jesse: “So when it comes my time to lose you, I’ll have made the most of it, which Feels equal parts deeply romantic and cynical all at the same time.” (18:29)
  • Lucy: “I don’t know about cynical. It’s sad... But I think that’s real.” (18:50)

3. Fame & Artistic Process

• On fame: Lucy reflects on maintaining authenticity amid increasing public scrutiny.
  • Lucy: “You’re the same guy, but everyone else changes. You’re like, wait, why do you think I’m different? But you are different as much as anyone else is. It’s just that everyone’s watching you. So it’s more obvious.” (20:10)

4. Art, Politics, and Upbringing

• Discussion about art as inherently political.
  • Lucy: “When you’re born, you have every art available... What actually happens is you’re told, or you think, ‘I can’t do it’... So I’m just lucky that no one told me I couldn’t.” (21:28)
• Family support:
  • Lucy: “My mom is an elementary school music teacher and my dad is a freelance graphic designer... There was actually a rule in my house that I wasn’t allowed to say I was bored. It was treated as a bad word equal to the real bad ones. And my punishment was that I had to make a drawing.” (22:23)
  • Jesse: “I’m gonna steal that... I truly believe that... my son’s best ideas come from when he’s incredibly and deeply bored.” (22:58)

5. Weddings at Concerts & Activism

• Lucy discusses becoming ordained and performing weddings for her fans at shows, initially as a response to Trump’s assaults on LGBTQ+ rights.
  • Lucy: “We started doing this in July... People have signed up to get married and it’s been really sweet. The thought occurred about a year ago when Trump took office and... came for trans rights so quickly... I think it’s November 7th that they’re hearing cases in the Supreme Court that might affect equal rights.” (23:51)

6. The Song “Modigliani”

• Inspiration: Lucy explains the lyric, "You make me homesick for places I’ve never been before," and how it came from missing a friend while sick with Covid.
  • Lucy: “If someone who’s really close to your heart goes somewhere you’ve never been, a piece of you is actually there.” (25:40)

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Notable Timestamps

• 00:11 – Sharp opener on shutdown
• 02:01 – Trump meets Japan’s first female PM
• 03:19 – Diplomatic Gold Gifts
• 04:22 – Trump-as-show-dog parody segment
• 07:14 – Trump rants about magnets to U.S. troops
• 10:02 – Trump’s “I never liked good looking people” confession
• 11:01 – 13:37 – Troy Iwata reports from Japan / “Japan Guy” discussion
• 15:01 – Lucy Dacus interview begins
• 16:47 – On writing realistic love songs
• 20:10 – Navigating fame and authenticity
• 23:51 – Performing weddings at concerts
• 25:40 – Inspiration for “Modigliani”

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Tone & Language

• The episode is laced with sharp, absurdist humor, lampooning political figures and American cultural habits.
• The interview shifts to a more reflective, inquisitive, occasionally therapeutic tone while maintaining wit and levity.

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In Case You Missed It

This episode delivers a satirical exploration of Trump’s Japan visit—skewering ceremonial gaffes, gift exchanges, and his bizarre obsession with magnets. The panel’s running jokes on “show dog” politics and “Japan Guys” land perfectly for anyone weary of stateside political insanity. Lucy Dacus provides a heartfelt, occasionally poignant second half—exploring artistic vulnerability, the creative urgency of love songs, the challenges and oddities of fame, and her unique way of combining activism with fandom by marrying couples at her shows.

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Best Quote:

“When you’re born, you have every art available to you. And what actually happens is you are told, or you think, I can’t do it... I’m just lucky that no one told me I couldn’t.” — Lucy Dacus (21:28)

Transcript

[Jesse Lydic]

You're listening to Comedy Central.

[Mike]

From the most trusted journalists at Comedy Central.

[Jesse Lydic]

It's America's only source for news. This is the Daily show with your host, Desi Lynette. I'm Jesse Lydic. We've got so much to talk about tonight. The government still hasn't come back from buying cigarettes. Trump tours Japan and manages not to do the accent. And later on in the show, Lucy Dagus. Unfortunately, she said, I cannot sing back up. So let's kick things off with the headlines. The government shutdown is on day 20, which is when it sheds its uterine lining. So buckle up. It's gonna be a rough ride. And the longer this goes on, the worse things get. Air traffic controllers are getting exhausted, Americans are about to lose SNAP benefits, and the White House is falling apart. Oh, I'm sorry, what? Oh, that was done on purpose. This is the perfect time for President Trump to meet the moment. With his famous deal making skills and master negotiating to end this shutdown, President Donald Trump currently on his way to Asia for a high stakes tour of the region. Okay, government will be here when you get back. Maybe.

[Lucy Dacus]

Boys trip.

[Jesse Lydic]

Let's get into it with our ongoing segment, Trump meets world.

[Mike]

International humiliation. One after another.

[Jesse Lydic]

Donald Trump is spending the week in Asia. And today he was in Japan to meet their new Prime Minister, Sanae Takeichi. She's Japan's first female prime minister. She's also their first Japanese female prime minister. Although I'm told in Japan that's not really a big deal if she were America's first Japanese female prime minister. I mean, come on. Cursory. Anyway, good news. It's already looking like the beginning of a big, beautiful friendship. In her diplomatic debut as Prime Minister, Sanae Takechi heaped praise on President Trump and vowed to make new investments in the US Very strong handshake. So if you see any weird bruises on my hand, that's why. Although it's not surprising when a woman has a strong handshake, we build up our strength by clutching our keys between our fingers at night like a patriarchy. Edward Scissorhands. Now, the purpose of Trump's visit was to discuss critical trade agreements and reaffirm our alliances. But first, Donny gets presents. Takahichi. Even at this bilateral meeting, we saw her gift Trump a golf club.

[Lucy Dacus]

She also gifted him a golden golf ball.

[Jesse Lydic]

Wow. Okay. She is a great gift giver. A golf ball covered in gold. That is a combination of two of Trump's favorite things. I mean, how could you even top that? Maybe an Epstein island made of Lee Greenwoods. And after the gift giving, it was time for some ceremony. So the Prime Minister showed off her new friend Trump to a gathering of uniformed soldiers. We see here in this moment of respect, two allies totally in sync. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Mr. President, where are you going? Nope, that's the kitchen. Whoops. Nope. Over here, Mr. Trump. Back over here. Hold on. Oopsie daisy. But aside from that one slip up, President Trump did a great job of letting the prime minister walk him from one side of the room to the other. It kind of makes me wonder if Donald Trump could have a real future as a show dog.

[Lucy Dacus]

Introducing one of the favorites of tonight's show, the old American beaver hound.

[Troy Iwata]

He is in the care of expert handler Sanae Takaichi.

[Lucy Dacus]

Lively, aggressive, and incredibly horny, the beaver hound is especially popular among rural white families.

[Jesse Lydic]

That's right. And judges tonight will be looking for the hallmarks of a good beaver hound. Strong veneers, Girthy cankles.

[Lucy Dacus]

Whoops. It looks like he's wandered away from his handler. That's going to cost him some points.

[Jesse Lydic]

Okay, he looks like he's back on track now. Excellent form on that turn. The beaverhounds golden name is glistening indeed. And now one final trick. A leap onto the platform. And nailed it. Wow.

[Lucy Dacus]

What a performance by the old American beaver hound.

[Jesse Lydic]

Who's a good president? Not you. Not you. Of course, it wouldn't be a Trump trip overseas without a visit to the US Troops who are stationed in every country in the world for reasons that are never quite clear. And after the prime minister made Trump feel so comfortable, he thought it was only fair for him to return the favor by bringing her along to make her feel uncomfortable.

[Mike]

But the cherished alliance between the United States and Japan is one of the most remarkable relationships in the entire world. Really? There's never been anything like it. Born out of the ashes of a terrible war, our bond has grown over eight decades.

[Jesse Lydic]

Oh, my God. Look at her face. We all know that face. That is the look of a woman who's going to be talking about this ashes of war thing the second they get to the car. I'm not going to embarrass you in front of your friends, but we will talk about this later. But I'm glad the president is having such a fun time while the government's shut down. Speaking of which, let's just check in to see how the negotiations are going.

[Mike]

People keep commenting to me.

[Jesse Lydic]

You look so tired on tv. I am so tired because we're not sleeping a lot. We're working overtime.

[Lucy Dacus]

Oof.

[Jesse Lydic]

Yikes. Yeah, it's okay, though. In my experience, Attired Johnson should be back up and ready to go in, like, 30 minutes. 20 if he's been eating oysters. And look, Mike, I know shutdown negotiations are tough, but President Trump is in Japan working just as hard. It's fun to stay in the ymca. Now, remember, troops, don't be gay. Now, I don't want this to imply that this speech was entirely jerk off dancing. Trump did have some important updates for the troops stationed in Japan.

[Mike]

I'm going to sign an executive order. When we build aircraft carriers, it's steam for the catapults and it's hydraulic for the elevators. You know, the new thing is magnets. So instead of using hydraulic, you can be hit by lightning and it's fine. You take a little glass of water and you drop it on magnets. I don't know what's going to happen.

[Jesse Lydic]

What? What the are you talking about? You don't know what's going to happen? If you get water on a magnet, the magnet gets wet. That's it. It's a mag, okay? Not a gremlin. Here, you know what? Let me show you. Water. Magnet. Magnet and water. See? Nothing happens me. Damn it. Well, when he's right, he's right. Now, Trump obviously didn't spend the whole time talking about magnets. He also asked the troops how they felt about magnets.

[Mike]

Which is better, hydraulic or magnets? What the hell is wrong with these people?

[Jesse Lydic]

Well, that's a scientific poll if I've ever seen one. Which option do you like? The one that I, your boss, prefer, or the one that I have an unhinged vendetta against? I am so curious how military recruitment is going to work in this country. Question 1. Do you promise to serve this nation and protect the Constitution? Question two, do you with magnets? By the way, Trump has been baffled by magnets for quite some time now.

[Mike]

All I know about magnets is give me a glass of water, let me drop it on the magnets. That's the end of the magnets. Instead of using hydraulic, they used magnets. Magnets. And nobody needed magnets until they convinced everybody 20 years ago. Let's all do magnets. But it should have never gotten that way because we should have been doing the. They call it magnets.

[Jesse Lydic]

Well, I guess this is what happens when your parents don't want to put any of your pictures on the fridge. Oh, oh, honey. Oh, honey, we'd love to, but all the magnets got Wet. No, that's how they work. They work. Anyway, it was your classic Trump speech. Weird, nonsensical ranting. A weird, nonsensical survey. But there was one moment I didn't quite expect.

[Mike]

I never forget that our ultimate strength does not come from equipment, comes from you. People. Incredible people. Good looking people. Too many good looking people. I don't like good looking people. I never liked good looking people. I'll be honest with you, I've never admitted that before.

[Jesse Lydic]

What? You don't like good looking people? That's the last category of people we thought you liked. We already know that you don't like fat people, ugly people, women people, democrat people, prosecutors. Why not good looking people? Because you know they're attractive and you're attracted to them. So the two of you are drawn together like a pair of magnet. Oh, okay. Now it all makes sense. I see. For more on Trump's visit to Japan, we go to Tokyo with our very own Troy Iwata. Troy, what's the latest?

[Troy Iwata]

It's wild Desi. President Trump stomping all over the place, humiliating them and embarrassing their prime minister. This is the worst thing America has ever done to Japan.

[Jesse Lydic]

I can think of worse things America has done to me.

[Troy Iwata]

Oh, yeah? Name two.

[Jesse Lydic]

Never mind. But look, it seems like the trip is going pretty well for Donald Trump at least.

[Troy Iwata]

Yeah, yeah, a little too well, if you ask me. Really not looking forward to our President becoming a Japan guy.

[Jesse Lydic]

Sorry, what is a Japan guy?

[Troy Iwata]

It happens all the time. A white guy goes to Japan, has a great time, you know, and then he comes home obsessed with Japanese culture, talking about all the bullet trains, mounting a katana on his wall, pronouncing it karate like it's karate. Karate.

[Jesse Lydic]

Oh. Oh, my God, you're so right. Those guys are the worst of all the guys.

[Lucy Dacus]

I know, I know.

[Troy Iwata]

And, you know, they seem normal at first, and then you go over to their house and they answer the door in a kimono asking you to take your shoes off. You're like, okay, Brandon san, like.

[Jesse Lydic]

You.

[Troy Iwata]

Live in a walk up in Brooklyn. My shoes are the cleanest thing here. And they love talking to me because I'm half Japanese, I'm from California, okay? And I don't watch anime. I'm an adult.

[Jesse Lydic]

Yeah, I know what you mean, Troy, but isn't it just respectful to show some appreciation of Japanese culture?

[Troy Iwata]

No, no, they take it too far with everything, okay? When you order sushi, Alaska roll, California roll, Philadelphia roll, those are named after places you know for a reason.

[Jesse Lydic]

Okay?

[Troy Iwata]

Those are Your roles. Know your role. But, like, Japan guys are diving way too deep into the menu. Like, do you really want Donald Trump trying to say the word nigiri? No, it's too close. It's too close. It's not worth the risk.

[Jesse Lydic]

Not worth the risk. Too risky. But, look, maybe this will work itself out. Trump's on his way to South Korea. Maybe he'll get into their culture and just forget all about Japan. Excuse me.

[Troy Iwata]

Okay, Korean culture will never overpower Japanese culture, All right? Japan is dominant. It's basically the America of Asia, okay? They colonized everything. Lovers of beef, some of the world's best and most creative porn. Okay, I'm getting big America vibes here in Tokyo.

[Jesse Lydic]

Wait, Troy, you're in Japan right now talking about how influential the United States is. I hate to say it, but you're kind of being an American guy.

[Troy Iwata]

Oh, my God, you're right. Last night, I sang karaoke, I sang Sweet Home Alabama, and I went to a wagyu place, and I ordered a cheesesteak. Go birds.

[Mike]

What am I saying?

[Jesse Lydic]

Oh, my God. Don't worry, Trey. We'll get you home. Troy Iwata, everyone. Welcome back. When we come back, Lucy Jacobs will be joining us, so don't go away. When did making plans get this complicated? It's time to streamline with WhatsApp, the secure messaging app that brings the whole group together. Use polls to settle dinner plans, send event invites and pin messages so no one forgets mom 60th. And never miss a meme or milestone. All protected with end to end encryption. It's time for WhatsApp message privately with everyone. Learn [e-mail] this episode is brought to you by State Farm. Listening to this podcast. Smart move. Being financially savvy. Smart move. Another smart move. Having State Farm help you create a competitive price when you choose to bundle home and auto bundling. Just another way to save with a personal price plan. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there. Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state.

[Lucy Dacus]

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[Jesse Lydic]

Availability, amount of discounts and saving and eligibility vary by state. Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guest tonight is a Grammy Award winning musician who recently released an expanded version of her latest album, Forever is a the archives. Please welcome Lucy Dacus. Oh, my God. Oh, I don't think our staff has been so excited to have a guest before. Everyone is thrilled that you're here, as is the audience, obviously. Oh, my God. Thank you for being here. Congratulations on everything. Your new album, Forever is a Feeling was described as the most romantic album of 2025.

[Lucy Dacus]

Cute.

[Jesse Lydic]

What a perfect time to have you here. The most romantic season in the holiday of Halloween. So romantic.

[Lucy Dacus]

I know a lot of people who got together on Halloween.

[Jesse Lydic]

I bet you do. I feel like the costumes alone.

[Lucy Dacus]

I know. I mean, everyone's in their sexiest little thing.

[Jesse Lydic]

Oh, yeah. So totally. A lot of love starts there in sexy little things.

[Lucy Dacus]

I guess so.

[Jesse Lydic]

It totally does. I want to talk about the creative process for writing this album. You talked about how this was your first time really exploring writing love songs. What do you think makes a great love song?

[Lucy Dacus]

I love love songs that admit that you don't know everything. I think that some love songs that I still love are like, I need you forever, or I'll die without you or something. And. And though those are great songs, I don't think it's, like, aspirational. So it's a little dramatic when you think about it. So I tried to write a lot of songs that were still very passionate, but based on the reality that everything passes, including maybe the love that you're so passionate about in the moment, but it's still worth doing.

[Jesse Lydic]

Yeah. I love that you. You said writing is the research project of my own thoughts. What was the writing process like for this album compared to other previous albums?

[Lucy Dacus]

I guess on my other records, I was writing about things that happened years ago, like processing them finally. Have you ever done therapy? Wait, I shouldn't ask?

[Jesse Lydic]

I mean, can we treat this like a session now? I can't get enough therapy. Do we have too much? Yes, please. Bring them out.

[Lucy Dacus]

But, like, in therapy, sometimes there's, like, a red alert crisis, and you need to talk about that as it's happening. And then other times you're like, you know what? I'm ready to talk about my mom 10 years ago or something. Love you, Mom. I don't know. I'm not talking about you in therapy at all.

[Jesse Lydic]

No, but we're all talking about our mothers in therapy, if we're being honest.

[Lucy Dacus]

Yeah.

[Jesse Lydic]

Yes.

[Lucy Dacus]

So, like, I think those records are more like, oh, let's go look at the backlog. Whereas this record was like, what is happening to me? I need to be thinking about it right now because I have decisions to make. And so it felt very urgent.

[Jesse Lydic]

Yeah. I want to talk about your song Lost Time. There's a lyric that really stuck with me. Nothing lasts forever, but let's see how far we get. So when it comes my time to lose you, I'll have made the most of it, which Feels equal parts deeply romantic and cynical all at the same time.

[Lucy Dacus]

I don't know about cynical. It's sad.

[Jesse Lydic]

Yeah.

[Lucy Dacus]

Like, just loss in general.

[Jesse Lydic]

Right.

[Lucy Dacus]

But I think that that's real. Cause whether you lose the person because you're not right for each other anymore, or, you know, death comes. Why am I always doing this?

[Jesse Lydic]

It's a very uplifting album. It is so uplifting.

[Lucy Dacus]

I think it is.

[Jesse Lydic]

No, it actually truly is. It truly is.

[Lucy Dacus]

No, but it is.

[Jesse Lydic]

It. It's deeply romantic and so inspiring and so beautiful. I want to talk about how fame has impacted your creative process. You had this incredibly successful solo career, and then you got together with your boys and boy genius took off like.

[Lucy Dacus]

Crazy.

[Jesse Lydic]

And you reached this insane amount of fandom and fame. How does that impact your creative process when it comes to writing? Because you're writing from such a deep, personal place, but you also have this other thing happening, which is this massive fame. Do you have to deal with those two things at the same time, or do you not let it affect you?

[Lucy Dacus]

Luckily, writing, I don't really know how it's happening. Like, I think I tend to write just whatever is coming to mind. And so sometimes I'll write about the experience of being known more because it's odd and it changes your personal relationships. Like, I think a really widespread feeling that, like, friends of mine have had, and I have, too, is that you're the same guy, but everyone else changes. You're like, wait, why do you think I'm different? Yeah, but you are different as much as anyone else is. It's just that everyone's watching you. So it's more obvious.

[Jesse Lydic]

Right? I say that. Like, I know, like, oh, right. Totally. Yeah. Cause it's. Yeah. Cause I'm so. I'm so famous. I totally get it. Lucy.

[Lucy Dacus]

You are. I'm in your house, actually, right now. So this is your table.

[Jesse Lydic]

This is my table. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's not forget. You heard her. You've said before that you don't see any separation between politics and art, do you look at those two things as clearly. One influences the other. But what came first for you? Was it freedom of expression that led you to music? Or did music. Did you just wake up and go, holy, I can sing? And that led you to explore your expression.

[Lucy Dacus]

I think that when you're born, you have every art available to you. And what actually happens is you are told, or you think, I can't do it. Like, you do wake up singing. Everybody wakes up singing. Everybody wakes up having images in their head. And dreams and things. So I'm just lucky that no one told me I couldn't or like no one got annoyed. It takes such a small thing when you're a kid. Like, if an adult says be quiet one time, you don't know if they mean for five minutes or the rest of your life. So.

[Jesse Lydic]

This is like a therapy session.

[Lucy Dacus]

I know.

[Jesse Lydic]

You would make a great therapist, by the way. I think you should keep doing what you're doing, but just know that you're also a great therapist.

[Lucy Dacus]

I have an off ramp if needed.

[Jesse Lydic]

What was that like growing up in your household? You must have had parents that were incredibly encouraging. Were you singing all the time from the time you.

[Lucy Dacus]

Yes. Shout out Sandy and Ben.

[Jesse Lydic]

I don't know.

[Lucy Dacus]

I'm like, looking. But my mom is an elementary school music teacher and my dad is a freelance graphic designer. So they both thought it was very important to make me do things. There was actually a rule in my house that I wasn't allowed to say I was bored. It was treated as a bad word equal to the real bad ones. And my punishment was that I had to make a drawing and my dad would be like, oh, you said you're bored. Five drawings and it'd be like being grounded.

[Jesse Lydic]

I'm gonna steal that.

[Lucy Dacus]

You can.

[Jesse Lydic]

I'm gonna use that with my son. Cause I will say I truly believe that some of like for my son anyway. Like, his best ideas come from when he's incredibly and deeply bored.

[Lucy Dacus]

Boredom is very fruitful. People should not be scared of that.

[Jesse Lydic]

Yeah, I'm stealing that. You don't mind, right? No, I'll give you credit.

[Lucy Dacus]

Give Ben Dacus credit. Yeah.

[Jesse Lydic]

They honestly, your parents must be so proud of you.

[Lucy Dacus]

They did cool.

[Jesse Lydic]

Yeah, they did a good job.

[Lucy Dacus]

Thanks.

[Jesse Lydic]

They. Your song Best Guest has been used by your fans for proposals and weddings so much that you decided to get ordained and have been performing weddings at your concerts. How did you decide to start doing that? What inspired that?

[Lucy Dacus]

I wish I had thought of it a long time ago, but we started doing this in July and I gave people like three days notice before our first show of tour. And people showed up and had their marriage licenses and danced on stage in every city that we've played since. People have signed up to get married and it's been really sweet. The thought occurred about a year ago when Trump took office and it just. He came for trans rights so quickly and that affected so many of my friends. And my mom actually was like, he's gonna come for gay marriage and or marriage equality. And I think it's November 7th that they're hearing some cases in the Supreme Court that might affect equal rights. Who knows? Whatever the case is, it's just such a colossal, miserable waste of time to, like, try and, like.

[Jesse Lydic]

Why?

[Lucy Dacus]

It's very confusing. So I just thought it would be fun. And it's really sweet. And I think we did 154 couples.

[Jesse Lydic]

Wow, that's incredible. Now, if some of those marriages don't go well, do you do annulment for the encore?

[Lucy Dacus]

We talked about this.

[Jesse Lydic]

You did?

[Lucy Dacus]

I don't know how. No.

[Jesse Lydic]

Hopefully you don't have to do that.

[Lucy Dacus]

Hopefully. Hopefully not.

[Jesse Lydic]

Yeah. God willing.

[Lucy Dacus]

Yeah.

[Jesse Lydic]

You're performing tonight. So excited. Your song Modigliani, my favorite lyric in this song. You make me homesick for places I've never been before. Can you talk about the inspiration behind this song?

[Lucy Dacus]

Yeah. My friend was on tour in Singapore, and I had Covid, and I was laying on the floor trying to. I'm basically saying the lyrics now, so this is gonna sound very funny when I play it. But I was literally on the floor trying to go to sleep, and I was like, I wish I could call her. She actually sang on the song Phoebe, who's in Boygenius as well, and she was just in a different part of her day. And so just that feeling of, like, wherever the people you love are just feeling, like, a kindredness with whatever they're touching or like, if someone who's really close to your heart goes somewhere you've never been, a piece of you is actually there.

[Jesse Lydic]

I love that that came out of you having Covid. When I have Covid, I binge watch Love island, and that's pretty much the extent of it. You are so into inspiring. Thank you for being here. Forever is a feeling. The archives is out now. Lucy Daggett, upgrade your laundry routine with a durable and reliable Maytag laundry pair at Lowe's. Like the new Maytag washer and dryer with performance enhanced stain fighting power designed to cut through serious dirt and grime. And what's great is this laundry pair is in stock and ready for delivery when you need it the most. Don't miss out. Shop Maytag in store or online today at Lowe's. That's our show for tonight. But before we go today is vote early day. And early voting means you can vote on your schedule. Find early voting options in your state by going to the link below. Now here it is, your moment of zest.

[Mike]

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[Jesse Lydic]

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[Mike]

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[Lucy Dacus]

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