Carson Hocevar Took Over DJD For An Unforgettable Episode

Summary

The Dale Jr. Download: "Carson Hocevar Took Over DJD for an Unforgettable Episode"

Date: June 23, 2026
Host: Carson Hocevar (guest host), Tyler Green (guest/co-host), Alex (producer), occasional phone-ins by Dale Earnhardt Jr. and others
Podcast: Dirty Mo Media, SiriusXM

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Episode Overview

This special episode of The Dale Jr. Download sees young NASCAR Cup driver Carson Hocevar taking the reins while Dale Jr. is on vacation. Carson brings a fresh, self-deprecating, and insider vibe to the show, joined by his longtime spotter, Tyler Green. The two share personal anecdotes, deep-dive into the unique challenges and drama of recent races—including the San Diego street course—and candidly discuss NASCAR's culture, rivalries, silly season, and the future of the sport. The episode mixes humor, behind-the-scenes race talk, and honest opinions about what’s happening on and off the track.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Hijinks & Taking Over

• Carson’s first time hosting; immediate FaceTime interruption from Dale Jr. as a gag.
• Carson and Tyler banter about show attire—Carson wearing a Dale Sr. shirt with tag still attached, likening it to a first day of school moment.
• Timestamp: [01:54 - 04:31]

2. Tyler and Carson’s Working Relationship

• They reminisce about their first races together during COVID: “Dover was the first oval we did and...my radio doesn't work and you legitimately spotted nobody with nobody in the stands. Loneliest I've ever felt in my life.” (Carson, [05:07])
• Carson's knack for putting Tyler in awkward situations, like wrecking Harrison Burton’s car right before Tyler had to inform the team he was leaving.
• Timestamp: [04:31 - 06:11]

3. Spotting at the San Diego Street Course at Naval Base

• The logistical insanity of having to run between viewing positions because the building blocked half the track, with some spotters clocking a half-mile during the race.
• “I was one of the few that did not run across the roof...I did not choose to do that.” (Tyler, [08:08])
• Carson’s disappointment the course didn’t go through a hangar: “It would have been so cool if we turned in earlier and went through one of those old hangars.” [13:12]
• The visuals of San Diego vs. Chicago’s street race, and how the military base felt a bit deserted for TV.

4. Race-Day Anecdotes & Chaos

• Hilarious DoorDash bike misdelivery—Carson thinking he’d “stolen” a bike from a random family’s yard.
• The story of a fan “fan-jumping” the track in flip-flops: “Being a little under the weather, you know, with all the alcoholic beverages, probably. The flip flops and only losing one and grabbing it back—it was impressive.” (Tyler, [16:49])
• Tyler and Carson debate whether the fan’s ploy was planned or just a bet-fulfilling dares gone awry.

5. Deeper Race Analysis & Drama

• Discussion of the role of spotters at street courses—split-second calls, trying to help drivers with line and placement, and avoiding wrecks in blind spots.
• Comparison of San Diego’s unique street race with Chicago: less “eye candy” on TV, more industrial backgrounds vs. lively city vistas.
• Major incidents dissected:
  • Austin Hill, SVG, Zillich crash: “They both drove in the corner too deep...SVG was just there when they hit the wall… people want to start blaming on Twitter, or whatever, [but] he had one world.” (Tyler & Carson, [21:18-22:33])
  • Hostilities between Noah Gragson & Kevin Magnussen: Recap of escalating bumper-tag and on-track tempers. “Noah gave him the finger and they started playing bumper tag after that...The third time was the knockout.” (Tyler, [37:29])
  • The hosts debate when such drama gets blown up mainly because one participant (Magnussen) is a one-off who might not return soon.

6. Behind the Scenes: Life as a Young Driver

• Carson prepping for street races, including setting up a sim on the team’s private jet: “Now it’s, man, we need to put that thing out every week...” [59:24]
• Tyler shares his own background as a racer, why he transitioned to spotting, and reminisces about the locked-out talent era in NASCAR.
• Inside team dynamics: nearly every decision-maker on the 77 car has real racing experience.
• Timestamp: [79:11 - 84:56]

7. The “Silly Season” and NASCAR’s Youth Movement

• Discussion of impending generational change—Denny leaving, new blood like Cruz, Jesse Love, Zillich, and Carson himself rising.
• "You’re gonna get to a point that the top 25...the only thing we’re talking about is just if they’re going to switch rides." (Carson, [62:28])
• How rivalries may reignite as newer, less-“family-close” drivers enter the sport.

8. Respect, Racing Etiquette, and Viewer Perceptions

• Hocevar and Tyler critique what’s “good racing” in incidents like the Heim-Reddick finish: "From a fan perspective, does this not devalue how much the drivers want to win?” (Carson, [47:59])
• Cultural divides in the garage: Old school “don’t touch each other” mentality vs. win-at-all-costs new breed.

9. Fan Engagement, Funny Stories & Pop Culture

• Carson’s Disney fixations (and how Tyler is a “closeted Disney adult”).
• Story of Lights, Motors, Action! stunt show at Disney—a tale of Carson scheming to repeatedly get picked as the “kid driver.”
• Twitter flirting with K. Adams (sports host): “It scares me when it works.” (Carson, [128:47])

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On the loneliness of COVID racing:
  “Dover was the first oval we did and it was during COVID and it was the most alone I’ve ever felt. My radio doesn’t work...spotting nobody with nobody in the stands.” — Carson ([05:07])

• On fans jumping the fence:
  “The flip flops and only losing one, and grabbing it back—it was impressive… Being a little under the weather, you know, with all the alcoholic beverages, probably.” — Tyler ([16:49])

• On the changing face of NASCAR:
  “You’re gonna get to a point that the top 25...the only thing we’re talking about is just if they’re going to switch rides.” — Carson ([62:28])

• On racing etiquette and respect:
  “From the fan perspective, does this not devalue how much the drivers want to win?” — Carson on the Heim/Reddick incident ([47:59])
  “I think there’s a box you play in...you have the respect to not just run over someone, but you also have to position yourself to take advantage of people.” — Tyler ([52:01])

• On being a visible, unapologetic personality:
  “I just think it’s funnier when you do it, like, publicly… everybody’s like, get a room, get in the DMs, like, nah, that’s weird. That’s weird.” — Carson, about flirting with K. Adams on Twitter ([128:26])

• On the future of NASCAR rivalries:
  “Do you feel like with the older generation getting older, you didn’t have as many rivals?… With the new guys coming in… I think that is gonna get better.” — Tyler ([63:52])

Important Segments & Timestamps

• Carson’s show take-over & Dale’s FaceTime: [00:57 - 03:01]
• San Diego naval base, spotting logistics: [07:23 - 09:49]
• The “bike heist” DoorDash story: [11:37 - 12:28]
• Race analysis (SVG, Hill, Zillich crash): [21:18 - 24:13]
• Noah Gragson vs. Kevin Magnussen breakdown: [34:44 - 39:50]
• Generational change in NASCAR discussion: [62:28 - 65:16]
• Carson's sim racing on a private plane: [57:34 - 61:03]
• Disney, the Stunt Show, and being a ‘Disney adult’: [121:16 - 126:45]
• K. Adams Twitter flirtation: [126:54 - 128:47]

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Tone & Style

• Highly conversational, irreverent, self-deprecating, and honest. Carson and Tyler banter like old friends, poking fun at themselves and the sport.
• Stories flow from candid inside-baseball to relatable tales of travel mishaps, providing listeners with an intimate view of NASCAR life.
• Frequent tangents—about Disney, sim racing, fan antics, and food—keep the episode lively and human.
• No sugarcoating about the politics and drama of the sport; the hosts are refreshingly transparent.

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For Listeners: Why This Episode is Worth Your Time

• Provides a rare lens into the mindset and day-to-day reality of NASCAR’s younger stars, with no PR filter.
• Deep insights into recent race chaos (street courses, restarts, garage drama).
• Frank, funny takes on NASCAR’s “silly season,” silly rivalries, and the upcoming youth movement.
• Entertaining off-track stories, from DoorDash debacles to theme park nostalgia.
• If you want to understand the next generation of NASCAR—how it thinks, jokes, and argues—this is a must-listen episode.

Transcript

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[Dale Jr.]

Hey, everybody. This episode is presented by Arby's, right here in Arby's studio. Don't forget about Arby's new meet in three box. You get more meal for your money. At Arby's, we have the meats. I've also decided that I'm going to take the week off. I'm taking the family to Sonoma. But don't worry, you're in good hands. I hope. I want to thank Carson Hosvar for running things here on the Dale Jr. Download this week while we're out of town. Enjoy. The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. This is the most fun I've had in this chair in the last hour and a half.

[TJ]

Yes. I don't know if we've ever argued. Did I piss you off over the

[Dale Jr.]

weekend or I'm still sour that I wasn't the best man at your wedding.

[Alex]

Who was your best man, Dale?

[Dale Jr.]

Tj.

[TJ]

Tj.

[Dale Jr.]

You don't need a cool vest for that race. What are you thinking? Get him, DJ Hell. Way to start the show.

[TJ]

All right, then.

[Carson Hosvar]

Well, thank you, Dale. Happy to take over. Hold on. You're in. Hey, man.

[Alex]

Hey.

[Dale Jr.]

What's up?

[Carson Hosvar]

I. I literally just said thanks, Dale, for, you know, I just started, so.

[Dale Jr.]

Thanks. Oh, you're just starting?

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, I'm just starting. Oh, it's 1103 here.

[Dale Jr.]

Well, I start the show at 8:30 in the morning.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, they gave me. I'm on west coast time still, so. 10, nine, eight. Yeah, yeah, I started at eight?

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Dale Jr.]

If you're on the East Coast.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah. No, I know, but, you know, it's eight. Eight somewhere. So I started the show at eight.

[Dale Jr.]

Okay. All right. I Just Checking in. I figured you'd be dumb now.

[Carson Hosvar]

No, I lit. I mean, I legitimately said, thanks, Dale, and was getting ready to say, all right, welcome to the Dale Jr. Download. And I look at my phone, and I was like, oh, God, somebody's interrupting. And it says, Dale Earnhardt Jr. Is FaceTiming you.

[Dale Jr.]

Well, what a coincidence.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah. All right, I'm gonna get back to your show here.

[Dale Jr.]

Have fun. I'll check in later.

[Carson Hosvar]

All right, see you. Well, that's good. They're gonna think that's planned perfect.

[TJ]

That is great.

[Dale Jr.]

On cue.

[Alex]

I didn't realize I had a missed text from Dale.

[Carson Hosvar]

I was like, how it went?

[Alex]

Yeah, he was asking me how it went. I didn't realize.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, I thought it was over.

[Alex]

Yeah. We normally tape 8:30, but no.

[Carson Hosvar]

All right, well, there you go. There we go. Moving on.

[Tyler Green]

Okay.

[Carson Hosvar]

All right. So, Tyler Green, thank you for coming on. Thanks for, you know, replacing tj. I think you're taller than him, so it works out.

[Tyler Green]

Big shoes to fill.

[Carson Hosvar]

Big shoes to fill, though. How was your. Well, first. Hold on. I like to remind people I went to the Met Gala. What are we wearing today? Who are we wearing?

[Tyler Green]

I am wearing my Uncle Jeff's number eight scheme shirt that he won Vegas with the very first Vegas bush race back in the day. Dimer Ridge.

[Carson Hosvar]

Wait, where?

[Tyler Green]

Oh, is that, like, Diamond Ridge team.

[Carson Hosvar]

Diamond Ridge Team, Yep.

[Tyler Green]

Before he was at PPC with the Nesquik and the Nesquik car.

[Carson Hosvar]

Perfect.

[Tyler Green]

Yes.

[Carson Hosvar]

Well, I got gifted this over the weekend not knowing I was going on the show or they weren't knowing I was going on the show. So it worked out perfect.

[Tyler Green]

But looks pristine.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yes.

[Alex]

So for the audio audience, what are you wearing?

[Carson Hosvar]

For the audio audience, I, you know, love them to death. I wear Dale Earnhardt Senior original printed. This has never been worn. It still has a tag on it. So this is the first time it's been worn, so it's perfect. So I. I saved this. I look like a complete fool to my friends because I had this laid out since I got back from San Diego. Like, it's the first day of school, sitting on the counter, like, ready to go.

[Tyler Green]

It's the only thing that's not wrinkled.

[Carson Hosvar]

It's the only thing not wrinkled. And, like, I. I had it set and, like, you know, all nice. And, you know, because I was like, I'm not gonna accidentally put a different shirt on and walk out. So it's perfect.

[Dale Jr.]

So.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah. See, how. How long have you been spotting for me?

[Tyler Green]

Six years.

[Carson Hosvar]

Six years.

[Tyler Green]

A long time. Long enough not to remember my first race, obviously.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah. So the first race we had together was. You said Daytona.

[Tyler Green]

I said Daytona road course where it was hot.

[Carson Hosvar]

No, no, it was Dover. Dover was the first one.

[Tyler Green]

The year before that.

[Carson Hosvar]

No, no, no, that year.

[Tyler Green]

Okay.

[Carson Hosvar]

Oh, you're right. No, you are right. It is Daytona. But the second race. Well, the first one, I fell out of the seat. It was like super hot.

[Tyler Green]

Couldn't hear me, so it didn't matter. I mean, I was doing this coaching.

[Carson Hosvar]

Dover was the first oval we did and it was during COVID and it was the most alone I've ever felt. Second, like third ever truck race and my radio doesn't work and you legitimately spotted nobody with nobody in the stands. So you spotted nobody. That's what they pay me to do. And then I was running around in a circle all by myself. Couldn't hear anybody. Did a green flag, pit stop by myself, and there was nobody in the stands. Loneliest I've ever felt in my life, but. Poor guy. Yeah. So that was how our little marriage here has started. And then that was our truck starts. And then on the cup side when you were with Harrison burton with the 21 team. And then I love putting you in awkward situations and so I wreck your car. Wreck the hell out of you.

[Tyler Green]

Well, the day before I was going to tell him that I was making a change.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah. So exact day before I wrecked the hell out of the 21 car. And then Monday you walk in to tell them I'm.

[Tyler Green]

I'm out. Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

Sorry to go. Way to go. I'm great at putting you in awkward spots.

[TJ]

Okay.

[Carson Hosvar]

I think you've. I think you've grown with it.

[Tyler Green]

Yes.

[Carson Hosvar]

At a while. You were a lot. Yeah, you were a lot. You're a lot more on me about it.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

Now. Now you just kind of par for the course.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

I think you. I think you secretly enjoy it now.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

Course. How was your experience on the naval base? Like spotting how, you know, rolling around on the bus the whole day.

[Tyler Green]

I enjoyed it. Family was military, grandparents were military. So I've always been interested in the military stuff. So, like the history of it was

[Carson Hosvar]

super cool for me.

[Tyler Green]

Like all the barracks and all the old buildings and stuff like that. Didn't get to see much of that, which I'm sure you did. So I'd like to hear your Insight on all that, but just the history of it being on the naval base was. Was super cool for me.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, it was cool. Like, so one of the guys, we.

[Dale Jr.]

They.

[Carson Hosvar]

They had, like, a. I'm gonna completely botch the. The kind of a segment was of the military or Navy or whatever was sponsoring, like, a car or was, like, directed to a car to kind of give everybody somebody to root for. And so I had Cyr and the guy that was, like, you know, that was, like, walking across the stage with me and everything. He was a race fan, and he, like, plays iracing and does everything and, like, he was, like, super cool and everything. So that was fun.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

The only thing I was disappointed was that, like, because I got to go way early when it was like, a naval base and everything was that the eye bar wasn't open. So you could have seen that, like. Yeah, it was. That would have been cool.

[Tyler Green]

But that's when you shot all those videos.

[Carson Hosvar]

That's where we shot a lot of those videos in the bar and everything.

[Alex]

It was open Sunday night.

[Carson Hosvar]

I know you, Travis.

[TJ]

Soon.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah.

[Tyler Green]

Thanks, Travis.

[Carson Hosvar]

Thanks to that. That really early in the show.

[Tyler Green]

So that guy gave you the mail truck? Same guy in the picture?

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, he gave me the little mail truck.

[Tyler Green]

That's cool.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, so he. We did all that and everything, and then. Yeah, it was super cool. What was the spotting like? Did you. How much running did you do?

[Tyler Green]

Well, so I'm a runner by trait, but for some reason, when I don't have to run, I don't run. So I had an extra up there. I was one of the few that did not run across the roof. I'm pretty sure someone started their. Their Strava and got about a half mile in before the middle of the race. So there was a lot of running back and forth, but fortunately, we had enough people to. To go on the other side for me, so I didn't have to run back and forth.

[Carson Hosvar]

So the. So for the people that don't know, like, you guys are on a building right at the chicane, the last chicane and everything. But there was stuff blocking, or the building itself was blocking, because you could only see half the track from one side of the building and then the other half from the other side.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah, the building was. Was big enough, and there wasn't enough room on the corner where there was a wall to see both sides. So you either had to run from one side to the other in the corner. So you run from here to here, but you also miss half the things as you're running through, and half of them are out of breath, sucking wind. Right. So I did not choose to do that. I chose to have another person up there, which was fortunate enough. So, yeah, you couldn't see both sides. Almost like a pagoda at Indy.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah.

[Tyler Green]

You had two guys. Same, same theory. And that the reason why I wanted someone else up there was I was doing Justin Marks in the truck. He ends up wrecking out of 15. I didn't have anyone over there. And he's like, it's junk. And I'm like, this is not good. And all of a sudden I see a puff of smoke coming out and I'm like, well, I guess he crashed. And the guy beside me didn't have anyone on the other side, and he about ko'd him. So I was like, okay, hang on. The safety thing, we need two people up here and not have to worry about that area if it's going to be an issue.

[Carson Hosvar]

How did it compare to, like, spotting at, like, Chicago, like, for street courses?

[Tyler Green]

Similar, similar. I mean, you only have your one spot that you can talk. And it's funny, the. The spots that I had to talk were super limited. And with you and I spot for Sammy on the o' Rally side, there's. It's. It's already chaos, right? And you're hitting bumps and. And swatting flies, and I'm in there just trying to talk to you, trying to help you with. With lines and placement and stuff like that. And, you know, it's. It's a lot going on. So you have a limited time to talk, and it's already rough and you're already hanging on for dear life, catching

[Carson Hosvar]

us in where you were at, where you were in 15 out of 15 out of 15 into the chicane. They don't count as corners. 16:1, which is the most chaotic of the weekend.

[Tyler Green]

So, literally, I would talk to you out of the chicane, get off the radio for you to hit the bump, and then get back on the radio, talk to you for a second, and then get off the radio for the bumps.

[Carson Hosvar]

I never realized it's what you're doing. I appreciate that.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah, you're welcome.

[Carson Hosvar]

Because I needed that. And every time I hit that bump, I was nervous. I learned my lesson.

[Tyler Green]

Like, Saturdays for Sammy is usually calm, collected, and Sundays is usually a little more chaotic on the radio, you know, a little more amplified. And Saturday, supposedly, someone took too much caffeinated gum and got excited, and Sammy was like, man, you can't talk to me right there.

[TJ]

I Gotta focus.

[Tyler Green]

I'm like, okay, well, I learned my lesson. I'm not talking here anymore. And on Sunday, I'm doing the same thing.

[Carson Hosvar]

That's perfect. Yes, that's right. Well, thanks, Sammy, for, you know, doing that for me. But no, that was, it was a fun experience. Like, it was cool. I, I. Everything getting to the track was by far cool. Like, I had the bike.

[Tyler Green]

Oh, yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

Bicycle that I got tired of walking, so I doordashed. I got tired of trying to find a place to park, so I doordashed

[Tyler Green]

it and tell the door.

[Carson Hosvar]

Well, I put the wrong address. I was, you know, like, c app. And it came up on doordash Coronado app. And I was like, oh, that's the same thing.

[Tyler Green]

Got to be the same thing.

[Carson Hosvar]

Got to be the same thing. And then I see the picture. I was like, not the same thing. So, you know, there's like, a family playing outside and everything. So I roll up to this walk away, and, you know, I was like, all right, you know, you know, I could leave leaf. Hopefully a lifelong lasting impression here. And so I had a doorbell. Yeah. So I, I kind of, like, look around. I huff that bike up, you know, pick it up like this, you know, up to, you know, into my armpit, Pick it up. And I just full sprint past like a family of three.

[Tyler Green]

So if anybody has a video of this on your doorbell camera, please send it in.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, I wish. I really was hoping there was a ring camera. I was gonna, like, press it just. And just, you know, I was just wanting that, like, you know, just imagining of, like, honey, I think somebody stole our bike. And. And then they're, like, confused that I didn't order a bike.

[Tyler Green]

Did you ever legendary shorts on? Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

I had the whole shebang. Perfect hold the whole shebang. That's why I left the racetrack. So I left the racetrack in practice. So it was like, yeah, fifth in practice. You know, NASCAR driver, you know, wanted for bike theft of his own bike. Yeah. So. But I thought it was super cool. I felt like on the. So there's one thing I really was, like, disappointed of is, like, we never. They didn't drive. Put the track to drive through a hangar.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

Like, because when that by the water, the 6 and 7. Yep. When we turn left, you kind of come around the hangar.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

It would have been so cool if we turned in earlier and went through one of those old hangars. Yeah. But part of me thought, like, when I rewatch it on tv, like, part of me didn't really, like, realize the expectation of everything. It was like mind blowing of. I felt like I was over expecting like the visuals to be like insane like with all the colors and everything. And I realized like man, like runways are not great asphalt to look at or concrete to look at. The. You know, the buildings are tan and the ships are gray. It's like damn. Like I wish you. Cuz like you go to like Chicago and like that one shot of it going over the hill and like with the train moving in the. Like you watch it. People like live their life. It just. The military base looked like, I want to say like deserted, but it looked like we took it over. You know what I mean? Like where in the street course at like Chicago. It looked like exactly. You know, you can see life moving on. Like it's. And I was like dang, like I wish we got to see a little bit more of that or like more planes. Like closer to the deal. But I was, yeah, I get. They can't, you know, they can't just take planes that are inactive. Yeah. You know, military deal and just be like, ah, we're just going to set these aside and you know, make them be like props.

[Tyler Green]

It would be cool if we could go buy more buildings. Yeah, you're talking about like split the, split the barracks or split the. The hangers or. Or something.

[Carson Hosvar]

If we could have went through a hangar, that would have been so cool. Like they could have like a camera

[Tyler Green]

on top or even between them. Right.

[Carson Hosvar]

Like if you have sets between the hangers, that would have been cool.

[Tyler Green]

Something like that.

[Carson Hosvar]

That would have been cool. But like I. I just think I was. My expectations were like building up for two years on like what the visuals of it and Chicago being really good. Like everything. Everything on like in person was like awesome and like I love running that track and like everything. But I feel like Chicago took like an. I. Like if they were gonna win one category, one. The eye candy test of like the visuals, the colors and everything, like on

[Tyler Green]

tv, was there more when you visited the base the first time, was there more stuff there? Like did they take more stuff off the base or locate it?

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, there was a. There was a lot more aircraft and aircraft and stuff. Like, like, you know, I. I even think the Navy, when we were talking to them, they were like, oh yeah, there should be a line of like 10 helicopters like right on, like right on side. So they're pro. That was probably the reason my expectations were so high because I think they're.

[Tyler Green]

They're expecting the same thing.

[Carson Hosvar]

They were expecting the same thing. Of they were like, yeah, you're going to go down a straightaway and there's going to be Hapachi, you know, helicopters on this side and there's going to be Navy jets on this side. And, you know, there's going to be massive carriers and everything. And it's just like, that's gonna be unbelievable. And then it's just like, oh, you know, there's two aircraft carriers. And yeah, I was like, ah, well, it's cool.

[Tyler Green]

Turn three was super cool, though.

[Carson Hosvar]

That was cool.

[Tyler Green]

That was cool.

[Carson Hosvar]

But then it was like, yeah, the other half, it's like, damn, I wanted that the whole track. Yeah. But, you know, greedy as always. But the O'Reilly race, the fan jumped the racetrack. That was funny.

[Tyler Green]

It was. I didn't see it at first. Sammy came over the radio. We were involved a little bit in that crash. Sammy come over the radio and he's like, hey, man, there's a fan that just jumped the fence. And I'm like, haven't checked the damage. And obviously Sheldon thought the same thing, right?

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah.

[Tyler Green]

So that was, that was interesting. I mean, I, I applaud the guy for, you know, he was probably, probably the flip flops.

[Carson Hosvar]

Well, no, the flip flops were impressive, but being.

[Tyler Green]

Being a little, little under the weather, you know, with all the alcoholic beverages, probably. Yeah, the flip flops and only losing one and grabbing it back, it was, it was impressive.

[Carson Hosvar]

It was, it was a very impressive run at it. Lack of execution on the escape part of it, like, or the, you know, get out of jail plan, basically of, you know, just putting his phone up to next to his, you know, face cops and just like, I'm just on the phone, you know, I don't. Did you see that? See what I did?

[Tyler Green]

But at the same time, I mean,

[Carson Hosvar]

if, what are you going to do?

[Tyler Green]

Run?

[Carson Hosvar]

Like, oh, but you got at least change your shirt or like, you know, take the shirt off, put a bandana on, you know, have a host of our shirt, sunglasses on.

[Alex]

Do you think the girl that was by the fence was like the girlfriend?

[Carson Hosvar]

So I never saw the girl. I never saw the girl. Like, when. Did she say something?

[Alex]

No, but. So I'll pull up a tweet from.

[Carson Hosvar]

He definitely wasn't alone. He definitely wasn't.

[Alex]

She walks off like a mad spouse.

[Tyler Green]

I think she turned when he was in handcuffs and they said something to her.

[Carson Hosvar]

Okay, so we're watching him jump back over the fence with flip flops. Oh, yeah. No, the fact he just like, basically bunny hops the second fence is Unbelievable.

[Tyler Green]

Loses it. Grabs a flip flop. Yep.

[Carson Hosvar]

He's like, I got it. Hops over.

[Tyler Green]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

She's walking. She knows the girl walking, right? Yeah, she knows. Yeah. She's just like, yeah, that's. That's impressive. She's got to be related, but, like, smart on her not to talk to him. Just be like, all right, now we're rolling. Now we're out. You know, go to a different spot. I mean, they could at least, like, changed hats or, you know, exchanged hats

[Tyler Green]

or something like that because he was wearing flip flops. And because of the way they acted after, there was no way. It was, like, premeditated, Right? Like, he didn't go to the racetrack saying, I'm gonna do this. It had to be a spur of the moment.

[Carson Hosvar]

No, no, he was like a plant. Like, NASCAR had that plan.

[Tyler Green]

No, no, not nascar, but, I mean, you know, if you're.

[Carson Hosvar]

There's no way. There's no way. Sandy, before.

[Alex]

That's what it was. A friend said. Yeah, text him 500.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

Oh, it was a. Oh, okay. I thought you were saying, like, pre

[Tyler Green]

race, like, they're doing.

[Alex]

No, no, no.

[Carson Hosvar]

Like, I'm gonna go to the race. I'm gonna do this. No, I think it was more like, if anything, it was like, hey, you know, like, tapping him on the shoulder during the red of like, hey, I'm bored. You know?

[Tyler Green]

Bet you won't.

[Carson Hosvar]

Bet you won't do that. Bet you won't do that.

[Tyler Green]

It's impressive.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, I bet you he did that. I wonder what the. I wonder what.

[Tyler Green]

His bail was higher than a normal race.

[Carson Hosvar]

I mean, it's got to be on the side of, like, super bowl, right? Like, is it, like, similar charge, similar shebang?

[Tyler Green]

It's not a. It's not just a sporting event. He jumped the fence at a Navy one.

[Carson Hosvar]

More wall.

[Tyler Green]

He would have been at a hangar with airplanes.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, because we.

[Tyler Green]

Honestly, when the red flag was out in O'Reilly, didn't have to worry about it in the cup race because you didn't have any damage. But in the O'Reilly race, there was a few of us that thought about trying to walk over there because it was just. Just a run, just concrete, an opportunity in between the damage. And we're like, yeah, to go see the damage. And there's like, if there wasn't planes there, maybe. But, I mean, that guy broke into naval base, basically.

[Carson Hosvar]

Well, he didn't break into the naval base. He was already on the naval base. He just went into a truck.

[Tyler Green]

He was in his secured area for fans. He was going into the area that wasn't for fans.

[Dale Jr.]

Right.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, right, right. No, that. That is true.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

I don't know.

[Tyler Green]

It's probably worse. I wouldn't have done it.

[Carson Hosvar]

No, I don't think I would have done it either, but, yeah, I don't know what got me to.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

You know, respect, honestly. Did they. Do you think they ever caught that guy from Watkins Glenn? He never caught him probably, but they

[Tyler Green]

probably just, like, I've never.

[Carson Hosvar]

No, I know the rich big guy got in trouble.

[Alex]

Please don't do that again.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, yeah. They're just happy to have something to put in the commercials, like, for that place, you know, other than the crash, like Sam Hornish hitting the tire, you know, the. The Bundle or Michael Vidal bouncing off that and Jeff Gordon and all them, like, oh, the nose, Jeff Gordon crash. You know, other than those two clips, they just got the, you know, the race fan. They probably promoted him. If anything. They probably give him tickets for life. That guy.

[Tyler Green]

They'll probably promote this guy, too.

[Carson Hosvar]

Seriously.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

All right. Well, in the cup race, you had Austin Hill, svg, Zillich, crash. Who is at fault, Tyler?

[Tyler Green]

I felt like that front row was eager.

[Carson Hosvar]

You don't have to say names, but you get, like, who? Like, is it like, I feel like SVG the cause or no? Because I don't see where people are saying SVG created this wreck to happen.

[Tyler Green]

I feel like they both drove in the corner too deep. Austin Hill got a little bit out of line, didn't wrap the bottom close enough. Marbles, and they both hit the fence. I don't even know if. If Zillich would have made the corner if Austin didn't.

[Carson Hosvar]

So I. What I noticed because, like, you know, when I was on the front row, there was a ton of marbles, especially outside turn one, but also too, like, you were picking up marbles the whole time. So if you didn't have your front cleaned, you were probably going to go in the corner and shove, and then you're going to pick up marbles and you're going to shove even more. But I felt like the wreck looked bigger because obviously SVG was there. And so when they went to, like, hit the wall and bounce off, he was just there.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

And he's, you know, he just kind of like, kept them there, so they just made the heart even, you know, harder. But I was like, you know, people want to, like, start blaming on Twitter or whatever or like, even, like, people in the industry was like, ah, SVG could have lifted.

[Tyler Green]

I was like, he had one world.

[Carson Hosvar]

Like, he's. He's set up for, like, he lifted early and was it. The reason he was in the throttle and they weren't was because they were going to hit the wall. He lifted early knowing, oh, these guys overdrive. All right, let me lift. Yeah, it is point for the corner.

[Tyler Green]

Turn one is deceiving because after that, you were on the front row, and I went back to looked, okay, how hard can we drive in the corner? Because you don't think you're going that fast because it's a restart. And the restart zones right before, you're

[Carson Hosvar]

pretty much going the same, but you

[Tyler Green]

are going the same speed. And that's, you know, why I really don't drive any deeper than you were. Because that. I feel like that's what they did. They just overdrive thinking they're not going that fast because the restart zones right out of the last corner and just missed it.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, I mean, I was happy about it.

[Alex]

I was going to say, when that happens, you're just like, all right.

[Carson Hosvar]

So I remember. I wish I said something, because now I'm like, spinning unicorn. No. Yes. Poor Michael. But I wish I said something on the radio before the restart, because I was thinking. I was like. I was remembering the O'Reilly race, like, you know, field kind of flip people on old tires and everything. I was like, you know, I forget who. Who. They're like, oh, you just could be like LeBron and predict everything, you know, whatever. And I was like. I literally thought. I was like, man, like, yeah, it was a good shot. They, you know, they pile drive in here. I'm going to back it down and lift and everything. And all I remember is seeing just everybody far left, like, the whole. Most of the fields, like, far left. And I was like, I don't think they're making this. And, yeah, and there's no spotters or anything. So, like, I kind of like, round turn one. And it was even, like, a shock. Like, yeah. Jeff was just like, way to stay where to stay cool. And I was like, bro, I was cool. Like, I just kind of just like, come around. Yeah, they did wreck. And then just, like, pointed right there through the middle.

[Tyler Green]

You do have intuition. And even as spotters, like, you feel like there's. And there's intensification, like going into a restart or something, and something's not right. And a lot of times you pick numbers out. Like, Elena, that one year you said, okay, I'm going to wait till 43 to go and they're like, I'm going to wait a little bit. And then you said 37, and then they wrecked on 30.

[Carson Hosvar]

And then wrecked was 37. Perfect.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

So it is funny. I'm so happy that that works out more often than not for me.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah, that's good.

[Carson Hosvar]

It's so. It's so common. It seems like. No, it's fun. It is funny. Who do you have again? Oh, yeah, you had Justin. Yeah. In the truck race.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

Poor guy. Yeah, I saw. I saw him and I saw him after the race. I was talking to Tyler Rife. He obviously had a shot to win 42 car.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

And everything. So, like, I. I got over there, I was leaving the track and the restart was happening. So as I was leaving the track, how it kind of goes is like, as you're leaving the military base, you're going downhill to turn two. And I was like, man, I'm going to stop and see, like, what happens here and, you know, if it gets interesting. So I went and, like, I kind of, like, almost. Luckily, like, the cops looked at me and was just like, yeah, I don't know, whatever. It's two to go. Whatever he wants to do. But, like, I was like, outside the fence, there's, like a big box. I just started standing on the box, like, recording or, like, you know, showing my buddies. Like, I was like, we're on FaceTime and everything. And I was like, all right, I'm. I'm a stay and watch. Well, then all of a sudden, the 42, like, is up front. And I was like, well, damn, now I'm gonna have to fight all the way back in, try to figure out how to get in this base and, you know, get in the racetrack and everything and. Because I was gonna be really excited if they won and everything with Al and. And, you know, Al being a Marine and he. He's been there. I didn't know he, you know, gone through Coronado at some point and really been there.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

And I thought he hit the inside wall the whole time until I talked to Tyler and he said he locked up.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

Unfortunately missed it. He was so nervous thinking Lane was going to spin him.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

And I was like, man, they probably wouldn't spin you in that. I don't think. Like, I think you're going too slow in that. That chicane.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

I think you'll. I don't think you'll get spin. I think you'll just get moved. And then I texted him after Sunday, I was like, yeah, I was wrong.

[Tyler Green]

Unless you're in a Cup car unless

[Carson Hosvar]

you're in a Cup car. But.

[Tyler Green]

But in that. In that situation, like, being that. That's the first time he's led, right. Coming to the Checkers.

[Carson Hosvar]

First time I think he's led ever,

[Tyler Green]

you get anxious in overdrive. But the. As. As a veteran, you want to just slow down and make him move you, correct?

[Carson Hosvar]

Yes, 100%. That's why.

[Tyler Green]

Don't give it to him.

[Carson Hosvar]

I was like, let him make the choice of wanting to move you or

[Tyler Green]

not make him the bad guy. Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

You know, so, yeah, like, if you. You're. You're 51, 49, like risk, you know, trying to balance these decisions and you lower your percentage of chance to win if you just take yourself out of it.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah, for sure.

[Carson Hosvar]

By far. But, like, even two of like, lane moved him, you know, and you're side by side, then you could just now be the bad guy and, you know, just turn a ride and start dooring him or at least drag race and do the whole thing. Yeah, but.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah, but kudos for him for being there.

[Carson Hosvar]

But I was talking to Justin after, and Tyler's like, haha, you know, you know, I need to win to get more opportunities. And so, like, you know, just to kind of make the point, Justin was walking by. I was like, just, you have fun. He's like, man, I ran into everything. He's like, I was hoping just to finish. I was hoping to just do it. And he's like, I hit everything. I wrecked the hell out of this truck multiple times. And so I'm talking to him and I'm like. I was like, hey, man, have you. Have you met Tyler? And he's, you know. Or Tyler was just like, you know, said something. He's just like, oh, you could have done what I did. And Justin's like, I don't know who the hell you are. Like, I don't know what you did. And he's like, it was hilarious. Tyler goes, I'm Tyler Rife. I was winning the race.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

And he's like, oh, okay. Well, very nice to meet you. And, you know, he's just like, well, you know, you did a lot better than me and this and that. So we started talking and everything, and Justin left. And I was like, well, there you go. You met a Cup owner after, you know, throwing away a truck win. Congrats, you know, you've made it. I was like, a 42, throwing away plenty of wins. Palace. But no, I was. I thought he did a really good job.

[Tyler Green]

It was cool to see that truck up front, though.

[Carson Hosvar]

It was very cool. I was, I was super pumped. I was like, man, this best 40, you know, no disrespect to anybody else that's been in it, but I was like, man, like, it was awesome to see that thing up front. It was because, you know, they obviously put like ross in the 45 and he runs good, but like, they got so many new people over there and everything. But no, it was cool.

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[Carson Hosvar]

Cup race. Yeah, we were fast, which was fun for me. Was it? That's gotta be, like, the most fun road course spotting you've done in a long time, right? Yeah, yeah.

[Tyler Green]

It's always fun when you're running good.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah.

[Tyler Green]

You know, everybody's. Everybody's cutting jokes, you know, having a good time.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, it was fun. It reminded me of like, a, you know, our normal races, honestly. Yeah. Like, it just felt right at home. Right at home. Yeah. But, no, it was fun. Were you. Were you on the side where you could see when I got spun in the chicane, you could see that? Yeah, I thought so.

[Tyler Green]

Yep. I was there. I witnessed it.

[Carson Hosvar]

Did you run to the other side so you didn't have to, did you? I think I was completely fine. Like, I, I. I was just disappointed that I didn't get refired quick enough and everything, because the. When it. When I rolled back to get out of the way. To get out of the way I roll, I kind of, like, let off the break to kind of get out of the way, but also too, like, to kind of, like, position myself to, like, take off, retake off. Well, I think the motor spun backwards, so it was just backfiring the whole time. Yeah, I was like, oh, damn it. I was like, damn it. I should just stayed in the way now and hope.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

Block track. Like pusher did that one time. Yeah, I did. I never even got a shot to see that until way after the race. I didn't even realize that. Yeah, but I thought that was.

[Tyler Green]

You just saw a whole gaggle.

[Carson Hosvar]

No, I was so.

[Tyler Green]

Because you. You were probably. I was five seconds behind.

[Carson Hosvar]

I was. I was well behind because we, you know, we just pitted, and we had the spotters could only see the exit of that corner.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

And all of a sudden, I heard wrecking, wrecking. And it was hilarious. It was so funny. I started dying laughing because you could tell that everybody in the front or everybody, like, around me was getting the same information. Yeah, but just at different times. So you had, like, one guy, like, hand out the window, like, waving another guy kind of going. And, like, everybody's just stopping on entry. We haven't even seen the crash because

[Tyler Green]

the drivers don't know if someone's upside down.

[Carson Hosvar]

We have no idea. Yeah, we have no idea.

[Tyler Green]

Just wrecking.

[Carson Hosvar]

Just wrecking, wrecking. Maybe track block. You know, like, they were basically saying, stop.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah, definitely hard.

[Carson Hosvar]

And so everybody just starts slowing down. Well, then, like, because obviously, like, not the best spotters are in that corner. Right. Like, you know, not like. Or even not there to call record. They're literally just there to call wreck. Not inside, outside. Just literally just wreck. That's their whole job in that corner. And it was hilarious because he didn't know what to say. Philip Smalley was in that corner. He goes, wreck it. Go. And so I was like, okay.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

And so I started going. Well, then, like, some others, like, so everybody started going, like, randomly throughout the corner. And then once everybody saw it, then everybody went. And so that's why, like, four, all five wide, like, on top of each other, because everybody got told different information.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

And, like, some people could see it. So they're like, oh, I'm gonna stop. Some people couldn't. Some people couldn't. Like, it was.

[Tyler Green]

So they're on that bus, right?

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, they're on that bus and they're going.

[Tyler Green]

They're going away from the bus. So no one really what's going.

[Carson Hosvar]

Well, also, too, with all the cars coming around the corner, if Busher spawn in front of front of all these cars that are coming around the corner. Yeah. Busher's block. So they don't sideways or they don't know what he's doing.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

So no, that was really funny.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

But.

[Tyler Green]

But. And. And to that fact, talking about spotting there, we had six total spotters. Some guys had four. That's. We went with four, added more. One of your friends, Philip, you know, Greg and. And Sean also helped us. Dawson was on the roof with me. Like, having good guys up there makes my life a lot easier, especially because on, you know, normal weekend, I get to talk the whole time. Right. And see everything, and I don't have to give control to anyone. So having a good quality group like we had was. Was very beneficial.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah. Did you see. Did you see Noah and Kevin Magnuson?

[Tyler Green]

I did. I did.

[Carson Hosvar]

I would have died if. If. If the picture of John Gerard and Ricky Bobby and Magnuson and Noah is hilarious. And then Briscoe said, I cried laughing at the I play for keeps. If Noah said that, I would have. That would have been all time. It would have been in every commercial of all time. It would have been in every commercial. I would have bought a Noah shirt after that.

[Tyler Green]

How many times did he ask him why he wrecked him?

[Carson Hosvar]

I think he still asked. Like, when he got. No, no, no.

[Alex]

Yes.

[Carson Hosvar]

No, but when he got interviewed. Well, after the interview, he was still asking why. Why what? Like, I wish Kevin would have said just guys. No, I basically did. Yeah. He basically did. Because you're an idiot. Yeah. You know, F off. Yeah, like, he basically did. And, like. Yeah, I don't. I, I never really. So, like, I, I. You. Have you seen the, like when they're running into each other?

[Tyler Green]

I went back and watched the whole thing to see, like, was there more started. That is what started it.

[Carson Hosvar]

That cannot. There's no way that started.

[Tyler Green]

So Kevin must have been watching you at mile and a half and was making all his time up on entry. Okay, right, Fair. So that is what started it. Kevin was doing a great job of, you know, just outbreaking people and jumping out a lot.

[Carson Hosvar]

Well, I mean, that's the only way you pass, like, F1.

[Tyler Green]

So that's exactly what he was doing. He did multiple people, and then when he got to Noah, he tried to do the same thing, but Noah saw it coming, so he was already protecting it.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, but, like, what turn is that? What turn? No, no, no, no. The one before the first turn. The first turn where they ran into each other. 12. 12.

[Tyler Green]

So 12 C or F or whatever they want to call it.

[Carson Hosvar]

But, like, Noah stopped, like, really early. Right.

[Tyler Green]

It looked like he break checked him.

[Carson Hosvar]

That's why. That's why, like, I. There's no way that didn't. There's. There's got to be something from before. I miss it.

[Tyler Green]

I watched well before that, and that's the first thing that I.

[Carson Hosvar]

There is no then. Then. Noah has played a lot of F1 video games, and he is pissed at Kevin Magnuson. Yeah, maybe, you know, career mode.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah, maybe. So that, to me, that's what started it. He was protecting the spot, and he knew that he was going to drive in deep because he just stayed over there. Like, he didn't even try and make the corner. The four didn't even try to make any arc. So he stayed over there, got hit.

[Carson Hosvar]

I mean, we all probably all were doing that. We're all, like, protecting it, but also too, like, hit or miss if you have a spotter over there. So, like, you can kind of like, play ball a little bit there, like.

[Tyler Green]

But honestly, if he didn't have his head back, he's probably seeing stars with

[Carson Hosvar]

how hard he is, for sure, you know? Yeah.

[Tyler Green]

So he might not have been in his right mind the whole time after

[Carson Hosvar]

that, but how hard he did. The defensive driving from Noah's pretty impressive.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah. And then they. Then the same lap into turn two. Kevin kind of swiped him and got him a little free again, let him go, and then Noah gave him the finger, and then they started playing a little bumper tag after that. I think Noah might have hit him four times and then Kevin him three times. The third time was the knockout.

[Carson Hosvar]

So the thing is though, like, if you're spotting for Noah in that situation, are you not telling him, like, hey, this guy has nothing to lose. He's only here once. He's not like, are you not like, if that's. If I'm Noah.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

Are you not saying that?

[Tyler Green]

Team de escalation.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah.

[Tyler Green]

De escalate. Yeah. You guys do enough of escalating. Your. Your emotions de escalate on the radio as much as we can.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, because like I was saying, like, a lot of people, like, saying, like, how Noah, like, like, what do you, what do you do to like, get it back? Like.

[Tyler Green]

Well, he hit him the first time, got him the second time. The finger came out. Noah, Noah, Kevin outbreak him in the chicane and then Noah popped him. And Noah popped him good enough to almost knock him in the fence. And I think at that point it's like, okay, it's, it's over.

[Carson Hosvar]

Like, I feel like. I feel like the only reason this is a massive, like I say, massive deal, but like a bigger deal than it is is because Kevin's not. Well, yeah, because Kevin's not racing next week. He might not ran a cup car ever again.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

You know, like, so I think that's probably the biggest thing because otherwise it would just be like, we've seen this stuff before. Like, it's normal, like, road. Course I'm mad at you. All right, well, you're not getting by me.

[Tyler Green]

This is when. Oh, gets him back right here. Yeah, he, yeah, they go in the

[Carson Hosvar]

chicane and then I think at that

[Tyler Green]

point it's like, okay, you game on? Yeah, yeah. Game. You junked him or he.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, he got him back loose. Yeah, the whole shebang. Yeah, that. But I feel like it's. It's way blown out just because of like, because like going to Sonoma just be like, okay, you know, either, you know, if Kevin Magnuson was a full time guy, it would be like, okay, Magnuson's either pointing him by next week or he's getting spun. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, it was entertaining. I was very entertained.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

I mean, it. A fight so. Well, so no, I was rolling down pit road. You know, I have all my stuff off and.

[Tyler Green]

Oh, hang on. Well, I'll, I'll get back to that. Go ahead.

[Carson Hosvar]

Well, I saw a rolling down pit road and I look and Noah is like this, like, you know, like, because he's out. He's just waiting on it in street clothes, watching everybody roll on pit road. And like, I know I'm like the second to last car on a pit road, and I'm like, first of all, I'm like, checking myself. Did I do something to the four? I haven't seen the four all day. Okay.

[Tyler Green]

Is it bad?

[Carson Hosvar]

You have to ask? And then I off time, but I'm just like, all right. No, I'm good. Okay. Did I ever see the four wrecked? I mean, clearly he didn't finish. Yeah. Okay. All right. He's waiting on somebody for 40 laps.

[Tyler Green]

40ish laps. I think that rec lap happened around like 32ish.

[Carson Hosvar]

It did?

[Tyler Green]

Yeah. It was early.

[Carson Hosvar]

That was early.

[Tyler Green]

It was early.

[Carson Hosvar]

Oh, damn. Yeah.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

Oh, yes. Stage two, two to go.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah. So 38. Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

Was that a caution?

[Tyler Green]

It was. That was. That's the one that ended the second stage.

[Carson Hosvar]

Ended the second stage. Okay, well, so that's the thing. So, like, most of the time, like, I pretty much can know. Like, I watch the Jumbotrons while I

[Tyler Green]

race, and no TVs to watch.

[Carson Hosvar]

Caution, no TVs to watch, nothing to do. None of that. And a lot of times the cautious were like, self cleaning everything clear is just calling me now. Hold on. Hello? Are you talking about right now? You're on the air right now. Because, like, I'm. We're recording right now. Oh, well, that's even better. Yeah. Or do I need to call in via the link? Hit the link. They're. They're saying hit. Hit the link. So they could get, you know, they. They want to be able to put you in the thumbnail. All right, pause. What a guy. Well, so he calls me on every podcast that he, like, does and everything and guest appearances. So he called me. Well, he does his podcast at like 7:00am so, like, Dale does his at like 8:30. 8:30.

[Tyler Green]

Maybe it's a dad.

[Carson Hosvar]

Cletus does it at like 7 and whatever. And so legitimately, the Monday after today, he calls me and he's like, I don't know why you didn't answer. Like, bro. I'm like, I'm in bed. So then.

[Alex]

Because they're actually drivers, that's why.

[Carson Hosvar]

Well, I know, I know. But like, so the next week he calls me and like, it wakes me up. But like, I was. I look over and he's like, you know, I was like, Cletus McFarlane calling. And I was like, I didn't answer last week. I got answered. So I swipe And I go. I go, man. He's just like, what are you doing? I was like, I'm up, man. Or he's like, are you up? I'm up. What are you doing? And I, like, do this with my eyes, like, as I'm waking up. I look around and I'm like, what am I doing? I don't know.

[Tyler Green]

I'm just up.

[Carson Hosvar]

And I died laughing. Going back, but, like, I 100% just woke up. I had no idea. I had no idea that, like, I was in a daze. Cliffs, do you hear us? Yeah, I got you. You got me? Yeah, I got you. Well, so you call me all the time on the podcast, and I'm here. I got Tyler Green. He's filling in for TJ Majors. I'm Dale. Dale Jr. This week. I just figured I would call you. Did you watch San Diego? Absolutely. What. What do you think of the street courses? Would you be able to put. Would you be better at drifting around the street courses or driving a NASCAR around it? Brother, I think I'd do good at a street course. You know, it's a little more my style. All these guys have perfected turning left, so I think I'd have a little bit more even. So I, weirdly enough, feel like I'm way better at the street courses than I am the regular road courses because I have defined limitations of where I got to go. Yeah, you can only go to the outside wall on the inside wall. Huh? I mean, I just feel like it's more basic.

[Tyler Green]

Plus chaos. Let's drive in chaos.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, I mean, well, you're just a. You're a natural winner. You know, you're Carson freaking Host of our so obviously, you know, promo here. That makes a lot of sense. But I do agree. And, you know, I started out in road course racing versus, you know, this turning left in an oval situation turns out way more complicated than it looks. So I like the idea of just, here's. Here's where you got to go. And I'm. I can hit an apex, you know, I can't necessarily run the groove in the perfect. Well, I tell you what. I tell you what. There's less pit stops in road course racing.

[Tyler Green]

Less.

[Carson Hosvar]

Less green flag entries for you. That could be very helpful in my case. That's so good. That's pretty much all I had for you, brother.

[Tyler Green]

What's next?

[Carson Hosvar]

We'll find out what's next for you. Talladega, you know, our track, our spot. I'll be a dega in the niece truck. Oh, yeah, There you go. Nice truck. They almost had a shot to win that. I know, I know. I was pumped, too. It's looking good. All right, brother. Well, thanks for jumping on real quick. That's all I had for you, brother, but you have a great appreciate. I had to keep up the great work.

[Dale Jr.]

Thank you.

[Carson Hosvar]

Keep being a winner. I'm gonna try.

[Dale Jr.]

I'm gonna.

[Carson Hosvar]

I'm gonna keep it up.

[Dale Jr.]

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[Alex]

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[Carson Hosvar]

The Heim Reddick deal. Yeah, so I never really saw it. So, like, they were saying that Reddick basically, like, accidentally ran into Heim and then he just pulled over. Is that what happened?

[Tyler Green]

So Haim out, broke him into two.

[Carson Hosvar]

Okay.

[Tyler Green]

Gets by him. I don't think they ever touched when Heim passed him.

[Carson Hosvar]

Okay, so they go through three, four. Little touch there. That's fine.

[Tyler Green]

Little crossover.

[Carson Hosvar]

So they roll. They roll. Crosses him over through to. This is five.

[Tyler Green]

Going into five.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yep.

[Tyler Green]

Outbreaks him.

[Carson Hosvar]

Gets loose, little free.

[Tyler Green]

Moves up a little bit.

[Carson Hosvar]

Not much. I don't even know. Barely taps.

[Tyler Green]

He just stops, supposedly. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely slow. I don't know.

[Carson Hosvar]

All right. I mean, like, I. I, like, I get it 100%. Like, I understand the, you know, I mean, maybe I'm not, you know, the perfect, you know, cleanliness driver to you know, put my opinion on this, but from this, I'm thinking from like the fan perspective, if you are a race fan, does this not devalue how much the drivers want to win?

[Alex]

Yes.

[Carson Hosvar]

Like, thank you especially too. It is different. So one of my friends made a good point.

[Dale Jr.]

They.

[Carson Hosvar]

It was, it would be different if Redick was the guy running him down. Right. The faster car running him down got to him and moved him and moved him by accident and was like, oh, I want to do it. Right.

[Tyler Green]

Yep.

[Carson Hosvar]

Not the guy holding on, like, probably like that. He had to. He clearly felt like he had to make that move to crossover. Yeah. To hold him up, like, pretty much. You watch him get back out in front, Reddick gives him six car lengths, you pretty much turn your tee off or, you know, like, oh, it's over. Yeah.

[Tyler Green]

Or if you're the guys on the 45, like, you, obviously you'd be happy for the 67 guys.

[Carson Hosvar]

But also too, you aren't racing for points regular season champ.

[Tyler Green]

Like, and you are door to door with him. It's not like, yeah, you didn't pun

[Carson Hosvar]

him in the back bumper, like, spin him out and you know, like, if he spun him out, like half spun him and like, waited on him a little bit, but stayed in front of him, I'd be like, all right, little respect there. All right, whatever. But like, you gave him six car lengths, you're slower than him and you gave up any shot at the win.

[Dale Jr.]

You.

[Carson Hosvar]

You're racing for the regular season championship. And to the contact. Did it blow his tire?

[Alex]

I don't know when the tire went,

[Carson Hosvar]

but so he basically.

[Tyler Green]

But it was the left front that blew.

[Carson Hosvar]

It was the left front, so it shouldn't.

[Tyler Green]

But he could have ran over something right here.

[Carson Hosvar]

But with how sharp he might have hit the wall potentially. But, but still, like, from the. I feel like NASCAR struggles from the prestige side, the credibility side. You know, this is a massive race. Right. Like, you know, call it a one and done crown jewelish. Could be. Yeah. Like, like, you know, just brag your rights a little bit. But regular throw the regular season points on the lot out, out the window. You pretty much showed of like, ah, winning is not that important to the fan perspective. Like, the fan perspective would go, what the. Like, if I was a fan, I'd be like, what the. Like, I'm.

[Tyler Green]

I think winning the right way is the best way. But I don't think when you're, when you're door to door with someone and I mean, Redick was going to make the corner, it wasn't like he just ran in there and blasted him. When you're side by side.

[Carson Hosvar]

I mean, he made an aggressive move

[Tyler Green]

and may not hear him, but at least I touched him.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, at least. But they, I don't think Reddick clears him. Like, even if he did, like sort of a normal corner, I think Corey still would have been there and he would have out broke him. And then you race or two, maybe you like let, at least if you're going to let him go, let him go in like the next corner to like make it look better for TV

[Alex]

standards or your owner is Michael Jordan. Do you think like he's going to give the opponent. Yeah, imagine, imagine buying Russell.

[Carson Hosvar]

Imagine Michael like doing a dirty block and then going, getting the ball and be like, oh, I didn't mean to do that. Hold on or try again. Or quick, hold on. Here you go, here's the ball.

[Tyler Green]

If he had the ball, broke the guy's ankles and knocked him down. But then.

[Carson Hosvar]

No, it's the commercial.

[Alex]

It's a timeout.

[Carson Hosvar]

No, no, no. I touched the ball, coach. Oh, yeah. I touched the ball. Damn it, Alex. Is a championship game, not good sportsmanship. You know, pass it on. Like, dude, that's what it is. I hate that.

[Alex]

I don't like it.

[Carson Hosvar]

No, no. Well, just, it's just, it's just mess. I don't, I don't know. Like I, if you're a team owner, sure. Like, you know, because, you know, obviously, you know, you don't want your, your, your cars running into each other, you know, the whole deal. I feel like racing for the win in this scenario and everything, you know, that Reddit kind of has on the line of. It's just, it's just so devaluing of like the sport, everything. And that, that's now the narrative. Like you could add this awesome battle for the win that Heim does, but now it's just like, well, Reddick, let him go.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

And that's cool.

[Tyler Green]

I mean, you're going to have two different guys. You're going to have the old school guys that say, respect 100%, don't touch each other, be respectful, win at the clean way. Then you have the new generation that everyone talks about that, you know, puts people in bad situations, does things to win races. And I think there's a boxy plan, right. You have the respect to not just run over someone, but you also have to position yourself to take advantage of people. And he positioned himself to take advantage of him by outbreaking him door to door. I don't think you necessarily let him go like he did, but at least let him gather it up and stay close to each.

[Carson Hosvar]

It just very much felt like when you're on iracing and, or anything and you're racing with your buddies and you accidentally spin your buddy out and like, but you're not like racing. You're just like in a practice and you're just like running laps together and you spit them out. You're just like, all right, you know, just gather it up and I'll wait on you. Yeah, like, but like this is like a full blown cup race. Like, like you're hoping.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah, but at the same time, if you're Reddick and you do that, you move him when the 67 gets back to him, he's probably going to use him up and that's fair game in my opinion.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, well, I mean, if anything, like, if that's what I mean, like if Reddit got in front of him going in the Red Bull corner and was like, I'm probably going to get, you know, kind of shipped here or you know, now get dirtied up here and you move over and you kind of let him go and then, you know, like, hey, I let you go and then you go back racing. I feel like that's better optically for sure than just stop, you know, like, I feel like that that would have

[Tyler Green]

been better just at least keep the position, not let him get five car lengths in front of you.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, especially like, pretty much like a lot of my buddies were like, yeah, we were like really interested in this battle and everything. And then it's just like you saw that and it's like, oh, well, now it's over. Okay, well race over. But, oh, well, I mean, respect though, whatever the, the walls repair, they got pretty good at that.

[Tyler Green]

They did good.

[Carson Hosvar]

They did really good by the end of it. Yeah, I think it was for the first one, right?

[Tyler Green]

Yeah. The, the O'Reilly race, they actually, when mayor hit the fence, they actually had to replace the wall and the fencing. When our race, it wasn't that bad and they just drug it back out. But it was cool to see like when the, the manhole cover came up, instead of a normal welding truck, they brought out like a military truck.

[Carson Hosvar]

Really?

[Tyler Green]

Yeah, military truck with a trailer. And like the military guys were, they

[Carson Hosvar]

were ready to go.

[Tyler Green]

Oh yeah, yeah. And then the next day for the cup race, they had cement walls already on the military trucks, like ready to go. Like they're prepped and ready. So that part was Cool.

[Carson Hosvar]

That is cool.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Alex]

Did you see the truck practice one where the photographer jumps out of the way and.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yes, I saw that.

[Tyler Green]

That's when Justin hit the wall.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, when Justin hit the wall. Yes, I did see that. Yeah. There was a guy behind the wall right where Justin hit it at the fastest corner, which a lot of us thought going into the race based off the sim was this sweeping, really fast corner. Was not even really going to be a corner. It's basically a straightaway. You're going to hold it wide open. Yeah, we all got there. And slick. The slickest part of the track by far until it got rubbered up in later in the cup race. But, like, qualifying practice, truck race, O'Reilly race, you were nervous to ever, ever do that, go around through that corner,

[Tyler Green]

but with the walls there. I don't. As fast as we were going. Yes. You don't want to. You don't want to have any issues like a photographer standing there. But I think those walls giving somewhat way better because, like, Chicago, I didn't know this was. Somebody brought it up yesterday, Chicago, they butted up against the curb.

[Carson Hosvar]

So that's where. That's where, like, with mine, when I hit. There's a lot harder tunnel there. No, there was a tunnel, like, right behind the wall. So it hit the concrete behind the wall. So, like, it moved a little bit, but it stopped. Yeah. And I was like.

[Tyler Green]

So I think the. The wall giving was a good thing. Obviously, you don't want to break it,

[Carson Hosvar]

but I mean, like, with anchor him when he wrecked it, like, broke the wall. Yeah, but that's. I mean, that's good. Unless you, like, you know, it's perfect. It's perfect that it's gonna move until you maybe catch the other one and it rips the car open potentially. But, yeah, luckily, we didn't have that. And then you were. You were not on the plane, but I. Which. Luke, I'm pumped. Just everything in life I'm hoping that I can get away with. Most people want to work hard to achieve what they want to achieve. I want to achieve what I want to achieve so I don't have to work that hard. You know what I mean? Yeah. And so when I was going out to San Diego, I. Diego.

[Tyler Green]

Diego.

[Carson Hosvar]

Dude, you're seeing Anchorage. Is that now how they. San Diego, Santiago.

[Alex]

Okay.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah.

[Alex]

He nailed it.

[Carson Hosvar]

Come on, man.

[Tyler Green]

Sorry.

[Alex]

Come on.

[TJ]

Tyler, go ahead.

[Tyler Green]

Sorry to interrupt.

[Alex]

Wait, have you seen Anchorman now?

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, have you seen Anchorman? No. What do we. That's enough. That's enough. All Right.

[Tyler Green]

What are we doing, Carson? I have no Ferrell. Right.

[Alex]

Help him.

[TJ]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

All right.

[Tyler Green]

Okay.

[Carson Hosvar]

He's seen the clips. He's probably on TikTok. He saw the clips. Yeah. But anyways, so we're. We're going out there, and I line up my. You know, I walk through the airport and look like an absolute clown. But, I mean, I don't give. But look like an absolute clown. I have Ethernet cords, a wheel, a pedal, a laptop, you know, six bags around me. And I walk through the deal, and, like, there's other teams at the Concord fpo, and they're just like, you know, now at this point, they just kind of, like, laugh, and they're just like,

[Tyler Green]

yeah, there's host shocker.

[Carson Hosvar]

I mean, the week before, I had a train horn walking through the FBO just blasting it, but they're like, yep, there he goes. And so I set it up. We're, you know, plugging everything into the air, airplane and everything. I'm lining it up. And, you know, you're not on our plane. But so Sparks, the crew chief of the seven, takes a picture of me, and he sends it to Jeff Dickerson, our boss, and Jeff sends back of. Oh, that's awesome. I'm walking in to a meeting with Dan Towers and the whole deal about our future and our future state of the company, and you send me a picture of that. That's our future. Yeah. That's awesome. That's awesome. I'm in there in shorts with a little logitech wheel. On a desk. On a desk.

[Tyler Green]

First it was on your lap. All of it.

[Carson Hosvar]

Well, at first it was on my lap because you're not allowed to put the trade table up. Even in a private, you know, G4 or whatever, you can't put a trade table. So you follow the rules on the Right.

[Dale Jr.]

So I'm.

[Carson Hosvar]

But, like, I. It was a full mad rush because I had to. I didn't realize with Iris and UI, you had to have Internet to load it up because you could test drive off loaded.

[Tyler Green]

You're good.

[Carson Hosvar]

You could test drive offline, but to get to hit test drive, you have to have Internet. And so I didn't realize that. So I'm, like, on my hotspot, like, hustling, and I'm like, on my. You know, I'm trying to calibrate my wheel, do everything before we take off, and, like, we're on, like, the plane. Yeah, no, I'm getting ready to be like. Like, you know, pull the. I'm getting ready to, you know, start Trying to pull the lever to hit the emergency brakes. And so I'm trying to load this thing up. We finally get it loaded, and so I'm making laps, doing everything. And, you know, they're kind of like laughing, but, like, you know, they're like, okay, well, if this helps and everything, whatever. But obviously, you know, fifth in practice, second qualifying up front, stage points, post stages. Have a shot to win the race. Yeah, now. Now it's. Man, we need to put that thing out every week. You know, Sonoma, you know, you better be bringing it.

[Tyler Green]

Have you talked them into a permanent?

[Carson Hosvar]

No, I'm trying to. I'm trying to. I don't know how we could get that to work because we don't have a Starlink. And I'd really like to.

[Tyler Green]

Where there's a will, there's a way.

[Carson Hosvar]

Well, when there's a will, there's $250,000 bill, so there's that for the Internet. But we would have to, like, take the seat out. And I think we dry lease that plane. I think you break your lease if you start taking things off. So I'm like, probably wouldn't like that. No, they probably wouldn't.

[Tyler Green]

But it worked.

[Carson Hosvar]

But it did work. So, yeah, I'm going to try and try to keep that up. But, yeah, no, it was fun. I enjoyed. I enjoyed that. But if I ran bad, like, if we ran bad, then, you know, it would be like, all right, it's not worth it, you know, it's not worth the headache. Don't, you know, leave the damn, you know, Logitech wheel at home and leave it all. But they were like, yeah, you know,

[Tyler Green]

bring it every week.

[Dale Jr.]

Luke.

[Carson Hosvar]

Luke was like, yeah, bring that thing every week.

[Dale Jr.]

It was.

[Alex]

How many laps did you run on the flight?

[Carson Hosvar]

A lot. A lot. I mean, more. More minutes and hours than laps completed. I was wrecking a lot.

[Tyler Green]

So.

[Carson Hosvar]

Because the force feedback didn't work. So it was really difficult because, I mean, you know, you'd have a little bit turbulence and then, you know, then. Then it doesn't match up with the bumps. And then the wheeled has no force feedback.

[TJ]

So I'm like.

[Carson Hosvar]

Because I didn't get a shot to. I had to hit force. I had to get the force feedback calibrated with Internet. And so that was the only thing I didn't get done before we got off the air. Yeah. But no, it's funny.

[Tyler Green]

So you're taking a Sonoma?

[Carson Hosvar]

I am taking. So I'll take a Sonoma. I mean. I mean, I don't Know how many laps I'm going to do? Because like I do at least no Sonoma. But I, But I have to bring it just now because I mean, what

[Alex]

else are you going to during the flight though, too?

[Carson Hosvar]

Like, no, seriously. Well, that was the biggest thing was like, it's a long flight.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

So it really helped. And we would start putting other people though on the. On it. Matt McCall got on it and he. I don't think he ever completed a lap, but he started to see a little bit every corner at some point. But yeah, something we were talking about, Tyler yesterday was the fact that, man, the field is going to be pretty locked out here soon. You know what I mean?

[Tyler Green]

Like new blood coming in.

[Carson Hosvar]

New blood with Cruz. He'll, you know, I think he's destined to take over 11 here soon. And like, you know, Jesse Love, Zillich, you know, myself, you know, a lot of like, it was funny when I was in quarter midget race in like 2010, somebody was like, you know, we're talking about what we want to do. I was like, man, I think I'm gonna make it to Cup. And they're like, why? I was like, well, because it times out perfectly well, you know, in 10 years. Yeah, these guys are out. These guys are going to be out. Yeah. So I mean, there's a lot less people here soon that will be like, you know, going out and there's basically, you're going to get to a point that the top 25. The only thing we're talking about is just if they're going to switch rides.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

Less about who's going in and out,

[Tyler Green]

who's going to replace someone. Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. Like Denny being on the way out, Cruz possibly filling his seat. Zillich, you, Jesse, all those guys, you know, feel like Josh Berry could still be going somewhere else in the cup series. Like, like all the, like there's like,

[Carson Hosvar]

but like even too, like, even, like the guys that like, like a Zane Smith that is like front row. Todd, like Todd, like he, like Zane's too good that you're not gonna. Even if they, he has a bad year, you know, he could do it. Todd, it seems like they like him over there and he has some good runs. But like, you know, the only thing is that, you know, they might switch teams and you know, within the next three, five years. But like, otherwise they're probably going to be there for a very long time. They're not going to look to switch them out. So it's like, okay, well, they're going to be there for a while. You know, it's just like, man, like there's we. I think we counted, like, there's like five guys, five rides that within the next three, five years that they'll probably fill out with, like, a young car, young driver, and then that's going to be your top 25 field ish for the next 20 years.

[Tyler Green]

So does this make new rivals in the Cup Series?

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, probably. I mean, at some point you're going to have your. Yeah, you're going to have your guys for the next however many years.

[Tyler Green]

Do you feel like with the older generation getting older, you didn't have as many rivals? Everyone lived in the motorhome lot together, kids played together, wife's shop together. You have the new guys coming in that are eager to prove themselves. Do you feel like. I think that is gonna get better.

[Carson Hosvar]

That's because of that point, I think ultimately, like, yeah, I think that's a. I think that's it. I haven't even thought of that. That I think it could just from the standpoint of, like, they're not all friends, per se. Yeah. Not that they're on all friends, but their wives aren't friends. Kids don't play together. You know, Like, I. I obviously can't speak from experience, but it's got to be awkward when you wreck somebody or you get into it with somebody or you're having a heated discussion or you argue on pit road and then you go over your kids and they're playing with the guy you just had an accident with or whatever. And now they're either probably talking about like, oh, now we can't be friends, or now they're arguing and everything, and now they're not friends anymore. Like, I'm sure that's a weird dynamic. It kind of like an awkward having

[Tyler Green]

to have a conversation with Harrison after Nashville when he allegedly got him the what allegedly hooked him at Nashville under caution.

[Carson Hosvar]

I had to have a conversation.

[Tyler Green]

Same kind of theory.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah.

[Tyler Green]

Lessons learned.

[TJ]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

Speeding ticket.

[Tyler Green]

But new rivalries could come out of it. Better racing. Well, I mean, maybe more entertaining racing.

[Carson Hosvar]

The only thing that I hope does not follow to the cup series is I wish every TV person would stop saying Jesse Love and Connor Zoich are the best of friends. I wish they would stop that.

[Alex]

Are they not?

[Carson Hosvar]

No, I know they are, but you don't have to say it in every interview.

[Alex]

It's the same thing as, like, Jordan. Jordan Smith and Justin Thomas that always, like, it gets brought up every time.

[Carson Hosvar]

No, but I'M just like, damn it. Like, I do. I like you. Like, they can be friends, but it's like, every interview, it's just like, what's it like racing your. Your best friend that you go out with every night and do everything? Like. But, like, it's. That's not doing anything to help the sport. Like, I'm like, I feel like all it is is just making the stereotype is like, all the drivers are too close of friends or to, you know, they're not going to race each other super hard and everything. Like, I just feel like that's just feeding that even more. And now it's feeding it with, like, you know, the next guy's in cup, and it's like, I hope that doesn't, like, you know, it's cute and O'Reilly, but I hope it doesn't translate to cup from the TV perspective of everything. Like, they could be friends and everything, and, you know, they could talk about it, but it's the second they're on a racetrack together or the second they're in an interview, it's every time.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah. It's like, oh, like, we need enemies, not friends. No, I know for good quality racing,

[Carson Hosvar]

like, just put me and Corey Hyve on a racetrack and just line us up and put us on the front row. There you go. Let us know about it. That's what I mean.

[TJ]

Yeah.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

But now that's the only thing. But I've. I've been wanting to say that for a while. It's just like. Because, like, obviously I was a fan, like, watching them, you know, go at it in the championship. But it's like, how can you set the promo? Like, the whole championship is like, how. You know, the whole championship promo was not like, these guys are racing against each other. It's just two best friends are racing each other. Exciting.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

And it's like. Like, I, like, can. At least for the one week, the race for a championship, can we drop the friend? Like, I get. It's a. It's an interesting question, but when it's like, 38 to go racing for a championship, we don't need to hear it again, you know?

[Tyler Green]

Yeah, it's like best friends.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, best. I mean, they are best friends. I mean, they're. They're inseparable. I mean, it's awesome. Like, I'm good for them, happy for them. You know, I feel bad for their girlfriends or whatever, because, like, I think they have a bigger bromance than any relationship they could ever have, but I'm happy For them.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah.

[Tyler Green]

But it's not your thing.

[Carson Hosvar]

Not, not. Oh, I just, I just don't want it. If I'm a fan. I don't know if I want to hear that every time it's like, no.

[Tyler Green]

Like, unless they race hard enough to, you know, make each other mad.

[Carson Hosvar]

So that's the thing. So that's the thing. Wait, to where they like run into each other or they like have an accident together or they run 1, 2. It's just like, you know, then bring it up. But when you're bringing it up every time, it doesn't add the weight. It would in that moment of just like, man. How's it feel when you just got, you know, used up by your best friend? How does it feel when you just got drove around by your best friend, you know, for the win? It would add more weight. Yeah. You know what I mean?

[Tyler Green]

There's a time and place.

[Carson Hosvar]

There's a time and place. Like if they just do it every time, then it's just saturated. Yeah. It's just oversaturating.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

I don't know. That's just what I have. But I just, I thought, I just haven't heard. I just feel like, you see, you've been seeing so much stuff about the silly season and everything, but you haven't been seeing, you haven't been hearing the conversation of. We are getting to the truly the next era here of the field locking out.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

And it's going to be really, really difficult for truck or O'Reilly guys to get there.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah, for sure.

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[Carson Hosvar]

Is it time for the winner segment? I'm excited.

[Tyler Green]

Speaking of rivalries.

[Carson Hosvar]

Speaking of rivalries, that's a good transition.

[Tyler Green]

Hang on, hang on. Let me ask you one thing, okay? After the race. So leading into this 67 restart. Are we going to restart? Right. Leading 45 gets bias driving the chicane. 67 rolls the center a lot quicker than you do. Gets in the back of you and spins out. Right. You drive back to 19th after spinning out after the race. We're always on guard when stuff happens, right? Like, I'm on channel two. Like, Dan's our car chief, C.J. all the guys let me. Hey, be at the car because I don't know what's going to happen or, hey, watch this guy, because I'm not sure what's going to happen. I'm standing on the roof and I don't see you. And I don't see you, and I don't see you. There goes 67. So I'm like, okay, well, he didn't go by the 67. What took you so long to get back to the. To back to pit road after the race?

[Carson Hosvar]

So I, you know, I crossed the line. I like, kind of took my helmet off, took my gloves off and everything, and I just went really slow and I just enjoyed the views. Like, I was like, yeah, I was like, throttle whopping at, like, fans and waving at home and everything because, like, a lot of them were cheering and, like, they're probably like, yeah, first lead lap finish on a road course. I'm sure they do that. Yeah, they know. I was just, like, I was just going super slow. Like, I was like, we're not going to come back here or good shot of not ever maybe experiencing this. And I was. I was just really happy with my performance and everything. Felt like we did a really, really good job on, like, the car and direction. And so, like, I was, like, really content with, like. And we, like, went back forward. Like, we ran down the pack and then passed some more cars to get some more spots. So I just went really slow and, like, got to, like, just embrace it. Embrace the. Brace it with the fans and, you know, I look like a parade lap on a local night. Like, I was waving and I was like, you know, they probably thought you won the race. No, seriously. I was like, yeah, I was joking. I was like, man, I was not robbed of victory. Yeah, but the, you know, the fans were. Yeah, you know, they were going to see the greatest celebration of all time because I was. Somebody asked me, they're like, you know, what happens if you win? What are you going to do when you win? And I was like, number one. I was like, bro, I'm not winning. But I was like, dude, if I do win, I tell you exactly what I'm doing. I'm gonna roll over to turn seven and I know exactly where a gap is. I'm gonna stop my car, I'm gonna roll out, I'm gonna run over to. Towards the aircraft carrier, and I'M gonna go jump in the water and I'm gonna have a Navy guy come get me out. And then I'm just gonna. Just try to go find the aircraft carrier or I'll go try and I wanted to go drive. I knew exactly where a gap was. I was like, man, what if I went into the center of the military

[Tyler Green]

base past the guys, what they are.

[Carson Hosvar]

No, no, not past a damn. No, no. On turn seven, where you are now, turn five, you like where the buildings were. You could turn.

[Tyler Green]

The bus was.

[Carson Hosvar]

No, you could turn left where the hangars were and stuff.

[Alex]

Okay.

[Carson Hosvar]

I was just wanting to turn left and just go see what was around there. And I was going to go do a burnout there. I was like, I'm just going to go do a burnout in a random spot on this racetrack that they wouldn't expect me to just go do a burnout. I was just going to do it right in the military, like right in the middle of the racetrack route and it. And do it. I mean, I probably got like. They would have not been thrilled about me. They probably wouldn't have had cameras there, but somebody with an iPhone would have saw it. They would have been pumped. So that's where I was like, you know, that's where I just kept reminding stuff like, I was not robbed. Yeah, the industry was, but it was gonna be. But no, I was just really happy with my performance, how fast we were, everything that I was just like, you know, I kind of like had the talk pre restart to. To myself of just like, I don't know, for whatever reason, like, I wasn't like. I was just like, you know, this is all gravy. This is all house money. You know, just, you know, whether, you know, late last restart of the day, we're leading the race at a road course.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

Not really on strategy. You know, a little bit on strategy. But we went, you know, the strategy got us from third to first. Yeah. Like, all right, well, I'll call it not strategy.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah, strategy plus a good car.

[Carson Hosvar]

Strategy plus car, the whole deal. But no, I was. But that's why I was really slow as I, you know, had my helmet

[Tyler Green]

off and everything, soaking it in.

[Carson Hosvar]

Do you think we're gonna fight?

[Tyler Green]

Not necessarily. I mean, the way. The way you didn't say anything on the radio after it happened, I knew you're okay.

[Carson Hosvar]

No, I mean, I felt like that was. I felt like that was four years coming. Ish.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

And I was like, all right, fair.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Tyler Green]

Have you had a conversation with him at All.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah.

[Alex]

Denny said you asked for his number.

[Carson Hosvar]

I did.

[Alex]

He didn't know what happened.

[Carson Hosvar]

I did. No, I was wondering that.

[Alex]

Yeah. He said on his show that he, he thought you were just congratulate. Then he saw what happened. He's like, oh, I had no idea.

[Carson Hosvar]

Nah, nah, I'm. I mean, obviously he, he is very good and I'm looking forward to racing his ass off for, you know, 20 years. But like, I don't know, I. I do enjoy racing him. Like, like on the truck side, like, I remember Texas, I like looked down pit road to look at the tricon trucks and like, I looked over and I was like, I wanted to see who was in the one this week. And I was like, ah, it's not him. I was like, okay, we'll win. So this week, no problem. You know, I think we can beat him. But like it's just like it's, you know, it's going to be probably between me and him or.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

I think the tricon trucks are probably the best trucks, but he's definitely by far the best at like taking advantage of them. Yeah. And everything. For sure. So. But no, I was, but also too, like, I probably would have been more like, damn it. You know, other places. But like road course. I was like just happy. I was fast. I'm just, I was just happy. I was enjoying it and everything. And I was just in a good spot that week and everything. But yeah, I was, I was just pumped that we were fast. That was ultimately the goal. Yeah.

[Tyler Green]

Good weekend on the 77?

[Carson Hosvar]

It was great. Yeah. I was happy about it. Yeah. We're fifth in practice, got stage points,

[Tyler Green]

whole shebang, almost got SVG in qualifying.

[Carson Hosvar]

I know if I didn't miss the chicane. I overdrive the chicane. Yeah.

[Tyler Green]

At least you both did it. Like if you're they.

[Carson Hosvar]

So he did it too. So that's what made me feel at least somewhat better too, is that he did it too. Like he wasn't thrilled with his lap. So I was like, okay, well, like I'm not thrilled with my lap, but neither is he. Yeah. So if he is his best lap, it would have been better than mine. So I'm like, I deserving second. Yeah, deserving second. But I mean, it was good.

[Alex]

So you, you were going to talk to him today, but he's out west, so unavailable. So will you reach out to him or.

[TJ]

No?

[Carson Hosvar]

Well, I mean, I was excited to do the interview. I was excited. I decided to do the winter segment here. But you know, they must not have cell service in California. Can't call in time zones. Time zone. Oh, time zones. Yeah. So it's 8 o' clock there. It's early. Yeah. I mean, I had. I had a good few questions. Yeah, I was ready to go. I was gonna ask him what his next cup race was. I was excited. Go racing?

[TJ]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

What? Yeah. No, I just didn't know. I. I was like, I bet he's on. I wonder if he's on the entry list.

[Tyler Green]

He might be in the truck race.

[Carson Hosvar]

He wasn't on the entry list. There is no truck race this week.

[Tyler Green]

No Wilkesboro.

[Carson Hosvar]

Be the next one. When is his next cup race? Chicago.

[Alex]

Chicago. Two weeks.

[Carson Hosvar]

AI Love AI. Just Google it, dude. Seriously.

[Tyler Green]

Well, she got any. Any good Dell Junior stories you want to tell anyone or junior stories?

[Carson Hosvar]

I don't know.

[Tyler Green]

Tie it all back in.

[Carson Hosvar]

What's your first Dale Jr. Story?

[Tyler Green]

Probably that picture I sent you the other day of when I was probably 7 or 8 and my dad was running the Busch series. My uncle Jeff was where they're all racing against him in the three. And I had my Dell junior T shirt on. Supporting my dad, but supporting him at the same time. And I think I went over to him after a race and got his autograph. I don't know if my family was very thrilled about it, but I was excited. So I'd say that's one of my earliest memories of him. Just my dad and uncle is racing against him. Right. Like Dale Hurt being the legend he was. And then. And then Del Jr being the. The new kid coming in when my dad and uncles were racing each other.

[Carson Hosvar]

So for the people that don't know. You raced yourself?

[Tyler Green]

Yep.

[Carson Hosvar]

When did you stop racing?

[Tyler Green]

Probably seven or eight years ago when I started spotting more did go karts, junior dragsters, bandoleros. When we moved over to Charlotte, when my dad started running the Dr. Pepper car in 99, ran bandoleros against Logano, Kyle Grissom, Steve Grissom's son, Matt Martin. Yep. Hemrick was running Austin Hill. So we started running legends cars. They had those big races, the big money races. Daniel won the first one. I won the third and fourth one. Unfortunately, the first one was the big pay. The million 250 to win. The other two that I won were 25 grand. Well, 25 grand and 2500. Oh, that's a big drop off. I think it was 250, then 100, then 25, then 2500.

[Carson Hosvar]

So the opposite of what you would expect. Like they normally build it up. They just blew Their water right at the start.

[Tyler Green]

So it was all in one. The first one finished like fifth top five in all of them. But the last two I won, but they were the least paying. Austin Hill actually finished second to me.

[Dale Jr.]

The.

[Tyler Green]

The second to last one. So legends cars did some late model stuff. Went to the fairgrounds in a late model stock and raced against pro late models. They gave us a weight break but.

[Carson Hosvar]

Oh God yes.

[Tyler Green]

Ended up like 8th, I think so it wasn't bad. Had a good time. That was super cool.

[Carson Hosvar]

Fairground stopped where. What was the. Was it. Was it financial stopping? Was it just life stopping it?

[Tyler Green]

A little bit of everything with the legends car stuff. The way the tires were, you we cut them ourself. Then you had to go test and break them in before you can even race them. So like the money side plus the time side. And then I started spotting for my dad on the weekends and even before that with my dad racing. I didn't always race on the weekends because he was gone. Like I always raced with him. So if he was home off weekend we go run the late model. But if he wasn't off then we would have to go to the racetrack for him. Right. So didn't get to race a whole lot because of that. And then I started spotting for him. Saw a career path in it. Feel like spotting is the second best thing to driving. You know, helping. Helping the guys. I spot for as much as I can on the driving side. Always had aspirations to do it, you know, kind of wish I would have stuck to it a little longer just to see, you know, what I could have done. Like Corey La Joy was in the same path I was. Like I said Hemrick, obviously you need funding right. To, to get the opportunities. But it would have been, it would have been interesting to see how.

[Carson Hosvar]

How I.

[Tyler Green]

Well, I would have done. And then my cousin Austin, right. He get. He's got an opportunity last couple years has done really well. Definitely a great road course racer. Like I, I felt like I was pretty good in the road course stuff too. So it's. I, I would have loved the opportunity. But like I said, second spotting, second best to driving. And, and I've had a great time especially since I started spot for you.

[Carson Hosvar]

So I was gonna say the money probably was like probably pretty spread thing in the greenhouse. Just for the.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

Just for the fact there was so many, so many greens race. Like it's just like a little here, little here. Like once you sponsor green, you sponsor them all. Basically.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

It's so funny. No, I'VE never really asked why you stopped.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah. Even piggybacking off of what you said. When I was coming up in racing, I was at the wrong time.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah. It was like you were at where it was locked out.

[Tyler Green]

Yes. And now it's kind of opened back up to where you're coming in. So it's life's about timing.

[Carson Hosvar]

You were at the era of the, you know, the Boston Reeds of the world, where they get two shots in a bushcar and if you didn't win them, you're done. Like, it's like, you know, everybody had a Hendrick Gibbs, whatever team was around then, development deal and then, you know, ah, you know, ah, it's cool. You're out.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

You know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tyler Green]

So money, timing, timing. The whole deal. Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

You never did asa, Never did any of that.

[Tyler Green]

Just like most stocks. Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

Brandon, that was your own stuff. Yeah.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah. Me and dad built, built all our stuff. If, if we could build it, we wouldn't buy it. Yeah. Always our mentality, the old school racer stuff. So I always, I always enjoyed taking my car apart, building it through the, the off season, winter time, putting it back together, you know. Sam Mayer ran for us in legends cars.

[Carson Hosvar]

I didn't know that.

[Tyler Green]

Yep. Sam McCauley, who is the crew chief of the 20 O'Reilly car, him and I were good friends. We'd always work together, rebuild our cars together. My Snyder ran for us. So we've had a few, few people run through our legends car stuff. But yeah, I always had aspirations to drive, but just, just didn't work out just like it.

[Carson Hosvar]

Our teams unique. Like you raced Nicholas. So our lead engineer, he still races? Yeah. Yeah, well, he thinks he races. We tell him he doesn't. He just kind of rides around.

[Tyler Green]

He tries hard, but he tried.

[Carson Hosvar]

He tries really hard. No, he does. Well, he kind of got screwed that he. When he was coming up. I don't know how they do the legends cars, like formatting of like what series you're in, but when he was coming up, like he was pretty good, but now he's like hobby racing.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

Well, the problem is he's still like in the class he was when he was growing up trying to be. Become a race car driver. So now he's like with the guys trying to prove themselves. He's not in the hobby racing. So he, he's kind of dealt a bad hand on that one, but. And then Luke raced himself too. So like everybody on our team that has like a deciding factor raced and then even like Jeff like, he, you know, he would tell you for sure that he attempted racing. Did not do a lot of racing on, you know, on. But he did a lot of the try hard midgets and never ran sprint cars, but midgets and everything. And he flipped a lot. But. Yeah, but like, everybody that has, like, a deciding factor on the 77. Like, obviously me, but, like, you know, between you. So Luke and Jeff, like, all have racing feedback and experience.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah, yeah. Even Matt McCall, our competition.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, even Matt. Like, he was fourth in media week in the Gong Show.

[Tyler Green]

It's very true.

[Carson Hosvar]

I remind him of that every time he's fourth in media week. It was a big deal. It was a big deal.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

No, I remind him that all the time when he was on the sim, when he piled over that thing in the walls, like. Yeah, that's for the media week right there, pal.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

Showing us how you did. He loves it. No, I had. He had to put the driving line on. I won't. I want to put that out there. I had to make him put the driving line.

[Alex]

Oh, that's not good.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, he had to put the driving line on. That's rough.

[Tyler Green]

That's funny.

[Carson Hosvar]

If he had the driving line on and the Gong show, he maybe would have made it. He maybe would have made it. Love you, Matt. Love you, Death.

[Tyler Green]

Hell of a late model racer.

[Carson Hosvar]

Hell of a late model. So I spotted for. Yeah, remember that?

[Tyler Green]

So he won Southern national twice, and I was spotting for him, but then.

[Carson Hosvar]

Wait, you spotted for him when he

[Tyler Green]

won the two races he won back to back, I spotted for him. And then this last year, I didn't get the call.

[Carson Hosvar]

There's a spot for him.

[Alex]

Wait, did he win when you spotted Carson?

[Tyler Green]

Hell, no.

[Carson Hosvar]

He ripped the nose off. Lap zero. Like, lap zero legitimately. So he's like always on me. Like, me and him fight tooth and nail. We fight all the time.

[Tyler Green]

He keeps Carson honest. Yeah, he's like the uncle of the team now.

[Carson Hosvar]

Me and him argue all the time of, like, you know, I. I don't think there's a thing called, you know, there's. There's. I think saving tires is a myth. You can manage your tires. You can manage. You can manage the heat, you can manage where you cannot save them. You can physically not go slow unless you went, like, ridiculously slow, but you cannot go realistically slow enough to have more tire later. Eventually they just get hot and they wear the same. They're basically gonna wear. And sometimes they. You go slow enough that you're sliding them more and you end up wearing it more. This is a big, big debate. And so he thinks I'm full of. And I might be, but, you know, I'm not letting him believe that. And so anyway, so we. We go tooth and nail. So he, you know, argues with me all the time about patience and everything and, you know, racecraft and tires, tire saving. And I'm like, all right, well, Southern national late Mall race tires wear completely perfect timing to, you know, show me how to get it done legitimately. Corner one drives through this guy, knocks the nose. A hole in the nose, hole in the hood, and is then bitching out the guy in front of us. I'm like, dude, you just ran into him. Like, I thought we were saving. We were saving, you know, saving tires. And we literally get through the gears and then it's like, all right, guys, if you could get a chance, can you walk down to the front stretch, check the nose. We just hit something. So.

[Tyler Green]

No, he just wanted to make you feel right at home.

[Carson Hosvar]

I just.

[Alex]

I just.

[Carson Hosvar]

I'm just loving the crossover we have at Spirely. Everybody's just been everywhere. Like, you worked with Matt. Jeff Dickerson was Matt's agent at some point.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

Luke and Matt and Sparks all work together at different race teams you spotted. Wait, so hold on. Did you spot with Matt for the late miles when you were spotting for him with Murray? Okay, so that's the crossover. So you were Matt McCall's spotter. Obviously uncupped was Jamie McMurray and then Kurt Busch. Right. So, okay, so he was racing Elite Mall at that time. So that's why the timeline. Yes, I thought it was further before that. I was like, wait. Because I had always heard Matt was badass, but, like, I. He must have came back and ran.

[Tyler Green]

He did races.

[TJ]

Yeah.

[Tyler Green]

It wasn't like when he was.

[Carson Hosvar]

It wasn't like when he was in his prime, like, trying to, you know, go racing. Racing going to.

[Tyler Green]

When he wasn't doing full time.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, when he wasn't doing that full time. Okay, interesting.

[Tyler Green]

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[Dale Jr.]

All right, it's time for Ask Junior. I know I said that Carson Hosvar would be hosting the show, but I like doing this part. This part's fun. So me and TJ Are here for your questions. Xfinity's waving the red flag on Internet price hikes, and they're waving the green flag for savings. You get the speed and reliability that you need in your WI fi locked in for one price in five years. It's a hell of a deal. No surprises, no late yellows, just straight to Victory Lane. We've got a winner, folks, and it's Xfinity. Imagine that. Let's get to your questions.

[Alex]

All right, one of the big questions a couple weekends ago we didn't get to is, what was it like in Victory Lane again with Nicole and getting in the car?

[Dale Jr.]

Nicole, that was fun. We were at Pocono, and I went up to Justin before the race started. I told all the drivers this. I said, my girls are here. If you win, I'll hope. Hope you'll try to win, get us to Victory Lane so the girls can enjoy that, because I love giving them the opportunity to have those experiences. Justin said, if I win, they should go for a ride in the car. Well, he's done this with his own girls, so I thought, I'll give it a shot. Yeah, we'll see what happens. I don't know if they'll get in there. So we win the race. Justin's pit is down at the end of pit road, so we are running toward the flag stand where he's doing his burnout. We get about halfway there, and Isla says she doesn't love the smoke, doesn't want to go any further. And I grabbed Nicole's hand. I said, come on, Nicole. You want to go? And she's like, yeah. So we run up there, and I get to the wall, and I said, okay, Nicole, you want to go over closer to the car? And she says, yep. And so I'm all right, we'll go. We'll go closer. So we get over to the car because I'm waiting on her to say, nope, don't like this. Yeah, don't like it. Too loud, too. Too noisy, too hot. We get over to the car, and Justin is perfect. And I've said this a million times how good he is inside and out of the car. And this is what I'm talking about. We get over there, and he kneels down and Just gives her this perfect little fatherly talk of, hey, you want to ride in the car? It's going to be fun. You and your dad can get in there. I'll do it. Won't be loud. It won't be this. It'll be fine. You'll be. Yep. And she's like, yeah, I do. And so, right in the middle of all the going on there, him waving, you know, celebrating with the crowd and all that, he stops, gets down on a knee, and has this little quick conversation with her. And I'm like, all right, you wanting to do this for sure. She goes, yeah. And so I climb in the car. Well, the damn floorboards burning up.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Dale Jr.]

And Hollywood, he's standing there, he's like, dale, it's hot. Careful. Don't sit on it. And I'm like, well, I got her coming in here, so I can't get on my knees or whatever. So she's gotta. I've gotta sit down, so she's got somewhere to rest. So he takes his jacket off. His. Over his top.

[TJ]

Yes. Fireproof.

[Dale Jr.]

Fireproof top. And puts it under my ass, and I sit on that. And then she come in there and sit down, and they gave us the checkered flag, and she's holding it, and I'm holding her hand and make sure the flag don't go anywhere. And I'm like, all right, we're just gonna wave and woo. You know, we're just gonna wave and holler. And she waves and hollers all the way there to Victory Lane. She's. I'm listening. Looking at her. She's woo. Yeah. All the way there. She had a blast. And the best part about this is yesterday we were in my truck driving, and she goes, hey, dad, you remember us riding in the car with that guy? And I said, justin? She goes, yeah, in the race car. I'm like, yeah, I remember. She goes, I wasn't scared. Kind of makes me want to try to try to be a driver.

[Alex]

Oh.

[Dale Jr.]

And I was like, really? She goes, kinda. I'm like, all right. Like, we need to tell your mother immediately. It was hilarious.

[TJ]

Yeah. Because Isla's always been kind of the opposite, hasn't she?

[Dale Jr.]

Was.

[TJ]

That is kind of the opposite.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, she does.

[TJ]

Really.

[Dale Jr.]

Isa don't want nothing to do with noises and loud stuff and fast.

[TJ]

Anything.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah, Anything abrupt and aggressive.

[Alex]

Tj have you been able to take your kids to Victory Lane?

[TJ]

No, but I took them to the go kart track one time. Stella actually loves to drive. She's has no fear. She is nuts. Meline's kind of like eyelash. She just. It's not really for me, but Stella is the one that I'm. She has no fear.

[Alex]

Gotcha. Next question. Fan wanted to know what was the. The free agency like for you, Dale, when you're trying to decide between where to go? Hendrick, awesome.

[Dale Jr.]

Back then, there were a couple really good options on the table. And so I could talk. I talked to Richard childress about the three. I talked to Joe Gibbs a lot about the 18 and. And obviously, you know, talked a lot to Rick. And I wanted to go drive for Rick really bad. I felt like Hendrick, I don't know. You know, there's a family connection there. My grandfather worked there at Rick's forever. They were very close. Rick treated me like family and. And I'm glad I made that decision. I always wonder what it would have been like maybe to go to Joe Gibbs and race there. And the connection to Washington was a big deal for me.

[Alex]

That's some emotional polls for you.

[Dale Jr.]

I couldn't go to Richards to do the three, and I didn't want to go to Richards and do any other number. And I just felt like that that was just setting myself up and him and everybody up for. There was never. It was never going to be good enough. No matter how much success we had, that would have just been a real challenge. And so, yeah, I'll always wonder what it might have been like to race with Joe and his family. They're very loyal to their drivers,

[Carson Hosvar]

and

[Dale Jr.]

I felt like I would have been well taken care of. But I'm glad I made the decision I made. Rick was equally loyal. There was some years, very, very down years where I think a lot of drivers would have been let go there. He hung on to me and we fought to find a good balance and a package or setup that worked. And we finally did with the tarp. And me and Steve, we talk about it all the time. You know, that little run that we had and how. How good we had gotten as a team. And we're very proud of it.

[Alex]

What was it like? You hear sometimes a free agency, like clandestine, like meetings with teams or whatever. Was it very like hush, hush, when you're going to meet with a team?

[Dale Jr.]

Super duper. Yeah. I went all the way to Washington to. To meet with Joe and we were at Dan Snyder's house. Joe wanted us to meet there. And he. I guess they thought that the. The Washington at the time, Washington Redskins connection was a big plus in the negotiation. And we walked into this House. It was awesome. Really intimidating. Honestly. Hard. Hard to. Hard to think about racing and working with Joe and in that environment, it was hard to, like, think about what racing at Joe Gibbs would be like. And Joe gave us a. A term sheet. And the numbers on that made me physically nauseous because it was so big. Like, I had. I had been racing with Di for a long time under a very modest contract, which I knew was way undervalued, comparable to what we were. We were doing and what others were doing. And when I saw what the value was out there for me, and that was the first time, I think the first time I got a term sheet was through Joe Gibbs. It was insane. I was like, holy, Kelly. I said, we got to go home. I was like, we got to go home. We got to talk. We got to go home. Like, I don't know what Rick's going to put in front of me, but. But I'm ready to leave. Like, I didn't. It didn't make me not want to do it. It just made me want to go home and sit down and get somewhere safe and get back in your home. Calm down. Yeah. And then. And go and look at. I mean, it was just me and Kelly doing this together. We had nobody else, which is wild

[Alex]

when you think about it nowadays.

[Dale Jr.]

And so it's me and Kelly. And I'm like, I'm looking at her going, holy, you believe what they want to give us. And she's sitting there going, she's got a business mind. And she's like, absolutely. I think this is a fair. I'm like, fair, holy moly. This is like life altering. And I wanted to leave. So I said to Kelly, I was like, don't you think we need to go home and sort of think about this? And I still want to meet with Rick and still want to go through this process. And she's like, absolutely, yes, we're going to do that. I think we'll go out there and we'll tell them, this is awesome. We want to go home and think about it. We've got a few other things to consider. So we walk out of the room and we go over to this living room area where Dan and Joe and all them are at. And we said that very thing. And Dan Snyder said, you're not leaving here without signing that. He's like, you're going to sign that tonight. And Dan Snyder started throwing all kinds of other things into it. The pot ownership of this business and stock in this and stakes in this. And I'm like, hey, stop, stop. I was like, I can't sign this. I need to think about this. This is a massive. What you've put in front of me is so overwhelming that I have to think about it. I've got to take a couple days. And. And Joe was like, I understand. No problem. We're. And I was like, I'm so thankful, but I'm just in shock. So, yeah, that was the first. That was the first meeting. We never had a sit down full that I remember. We never. That I recall, we never had a real full sit down pitch with. With Richard and the three. And then I went to see Rick and he tried to give me a term sheet, and I said, don't do that to me. I was like, I don't even want to see it. I was like, you and Kelly discuss the numbers and y'. All. Y' all can handle. I don't even want to look at that. I don't even know what you're going to pay me. I said, I want painted side skirts. I want. I want to. You know, I want my car to look badass. I know your cars will be fast. I'm gonna have fun driving them. I want them to look cool. You're gonna pay me a money that I probably don't deserve. And if it's anything like what they. They pitched me at Joe Gibbs, it'll be enough.

[Alex]

So as long as they pretty much met that you were gonna go to Hendrick. And did you ever give Joe a chance to.

[Dale Jr.]

No.

[Alex]

Could have got more.

[Dale Jr.]

I don't think I would have been. I would have not been comfortable asking for more.

[Alex]

That's an interesting story. Speaking of that, someone asked, did you get a John Riggins card this weekend?

[Dale Jr.]

Yes, I did.

[Alex]

Or last weekend. At Pocono.

[Dale Jr.]

At Pocono, I got a card from a fan. And, dude, he told me his name. I'm so apologetic.

[Alex]

Mike.

[Dale Jr.]

It might. Let's say it was Mike. He gave me. It's a $35 card. But, I mean, listen, it doesn't matter. I am a massive Washington fan, so this card might as. It could have been worth a thousand bucks. It doesn't matter to me. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's amazing. It's a Joe Gibbs. I mean, sorry. So it's a John Riggins. Modern John Riggins. Numbered like orange refractor. Some bull refractor, because there's a thousand of them. But it's a badass card. PSA10 and throw that right in my Collection. You know it.

[Alex]

Tj. What's a car that doesn't. Value wise isn't much, but you either

[TJ]

want or have same thing.

[Tyler Green]

Any.

[TJ]

Any Buffalo Bills players, Honestly, Is there like.

[Alex]

Is there one that's like. Like, obviously Josh Allen, but is there like a Buffalo Bills player that, like.

[TJ]

Yeah, I mean, he. Anytime you see like a Jim Kelly or a Thurman Thomas, like, those were heroes to me when. When I was young. Kind of like him with John Riggins, like, those were like, you know, the guys.

[Alex]

I think both Riggins and Thomas, I think are underrated. Players that don't.

[TJ]

Andre Reed would have been another one.

[Alex]

Yeah, those are fun. Those are awesome players.

[Tyler Green]

Yes.

[Alex]

Another question person wants to know what is your go to candy bar? Like, I'm a Snickers P1 right now.

[Carson Hosvar]

It's probably the.

[TJ]

The Hershey bars that are Oreo Cookie.

[Alex]

Oh, those are good.

[TJ]

So I like them a lot.

[Dale Jr.]

Oh, man. Dude, I'm glad you asked this question. I am. So I was gonna say. I was gonna run this on. Bless your heart, but we went to Hershey park during the Pocono weekend and had a great time. But I gotta know, man. You know, we give Hershey. We pick and joke about Hershey and how. How much fun we have at the. At the theme park, but I wonder why it feels to me like Mr. Goodbar when we're talking about candy bars. I think the Mr. Good Bar candy bar is a top three of all time. And I don't know why I feel like it's suppressed a little bit, because

[Alex]

it's not top three.

[TJ]

What is it? I don't think I've ever had.

[Alex]

It's a peanuts and chocolate bar.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah. It's good. It is.

[Alex]

I would go Snickers Twix Crunch bar crunch over.

[Dale Jr.]

Really good.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Dale Jr.]

All right, so let's look. Let's think about it. Let's just. I appreciate your opinion, and I share. There are some good candy bars out there. Let's stay in. Let's. Let's just go into the Hershey family. Okay. Just the Hershey family. When you get that assorted bag with Hershey's Crackle. And which ones are you eating out of there first?

[TJ]

The crackle. The regular crunch. What, the crunch ones?

[Dale Jr.]

Not the Mr. Goodbar?

[TJ]

No, no.

[Dale Jr.]

Wow.

[Alex]

A good part's good. That's.

[TJ]

Yeah.

[Dale Jr.]

I feel like it's better than good, and I feel like that Hershey does

[Alex]

be a great bar then.

[TJ]

Well, I feel like the crunch first, man. Crunches are just classic.

[Dale Jr.]

I feel like that Hershey isn't maximizing its potential.

[TJ]

I think they know what they're doing.

[Alex]

They.

[Carson Hosvar]

They've been around long enough.

[Alex]

One of them has to be the sleeper. It's underrated, I'll give you that.

[Dale Jr.]

I don't think they want it outperforming the mothership.

[Alex]

Yeah. You can't have it.

[Dale Jr.]

And it could and it would and it should.

[TJ]

I don't know. I think it's different now.

[Alex]

It says peanut allergies. It can.

[TJ]

That's what I was gonna say. Man, there's so many peanut allergies nowadays. And it's just.

[Tyler Green]

Just.

[Dale Jr.]

Just because your daughter has a pendered allergy.

[TJ]

It's not just mine.

[Carson Hosvar]

It's a lot.

[Dale Jr.]

I know, but. Dude, I mean.

[Alex]

But that's why.

[TJ]

Yeah.

[Dale Jr.]

Well, there's peanuts in a lot of candy bars. Some that you mentioned. Snickers.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Dale Jr.]

Holding the Snickers back.

[Alex]

But Snickers isn't just a chocolate bar and like little peanuts.

[Dale Jr.]

Oh, wait. But there's. You can still have a reaction to it, but it's. Regardless of how many peanuts are in there.

[Alex]

But it's so good that it's able to overcome their.

[Dale Jr.]

Is flawed because you've just mentioned candy bars you like that have peanuts in them.

[Alex]

But there's the. But the. How it's made is able to overcome the peanut allergies. Like the good. Like that's just not.

[TJ]

I don't know what you're trying.

[Alex]

Snickers bar is made better. It's got more than just chocolate and peanuts. And the peanuts are better.

[TJ]

I don't really. I don't know what he's trying to say.

[Dale Jr.]

Can your girl. Can your girl eat the Snickers?

[TJ]

She's going to avoid that as well, I'm sure.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah.

[TJ]

Yeah.

[Dale Jr.]

That doesn't seem to hurt their ranking because it's better, though.

[Alex]

So it's able to overcome it.

[Dale Jr.]

I like. I like the Mr. Good Bar. I think a lot of people do. I think that it is underrated and doesn't get the. The credit it deserves for being as good as it is.

[TJ]

And it probably never will.

[Dale Jr.]

And it probably never will because I don't think Hershey's needs it to kick ass.

[TJ]

I just think there's God's good. I do got things against it now, though. Like the pinot definitely plays against that.

[Dale Jr.]

But that there's a lot of peanuts in a lot of candy bars.

[TJ]

Yes, but. Yes, but it's never gonna top anything because it's just straight up peanuts. People are gonna be like, oh, it's got peanuts in it for sure.

[Dale Jr.]

Can she eat Reese cups?

[TJ]

No.

[Alex]

No.

[Dale Jr.]

All right. But. I mean. But Reese's is kicking ass.

[Alex]

But it's not. Yeah, it's how it's made. It's. What?

[Dale Jr.]

No.

[Tyler Green]

Yes.

[Dale Jr.]

Dude, he just told you she cannot.

[Alex]

No, I'm not. No, I know.

[TJ]

Yeah.

[Alex]

I know that if you have peanut allergy, you can't eat. That's what I'm saying.

[Dale Jr.]

Well, he says that's a big factor, but. It is.

[Alex]

But some things are able to overcome peanut allergies because of how it's.

[Dale Jr.]

No.

[Alex]

And it. They're not the same.

[Dale Jr.]

You think it's made differently, so it succeeds.

[Alex]

No, no, I'm not talking about.

[Dale Jr.]

No, no. I'm saying you. What's wrong with how the good bar is made? It's made just fine, but it's not

[Alex]

as good as a Reese's.

[Dale Jr.]

Why not?

[TJ]

It's not.

[Alex]

It's just not.

[TJ]

Definitely not.

[Dale Jr.]

Because I think it's as good. Ah.

[TJ]

I don't. I don't think it's as good. You can also. There's substitutes for the peanut butter cookies.

[Dale Jr.]

Like, they want to hear from the Mr. Goodbar fans. I can't.

[TJ]

There's. They substitute that sunbutter stuff.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[TJ]

Like, you can substitute some butter for, like, if you make. Or bit like. I don't know, you can substitute stuff to get similar to that. And they don't do it from Mr. Goodbar.

[Dale Jr.]

All right.

[TJ]

Honestly, I kind of forgot Mr. Goodbar was existing.

[Alex]

Yeah. I mean, it is underrated, I'll give you that. I feel like that's a good place for us to stop with you.

[Dale Jr.]

All right, well, thank you, Xfinity, for waving the red flag on Internet price hikes and raising the green flag. Flag for savings. You get more speed and reliability in the WI fi you need locked in one price, five years. No surprises, no late yellows. Straight to victory Lane. Just how you like it.

[Carson Hosvar]

Place your bets, ladies and gentlemen.

[Dale Jr.]

Place your bets. Get your bets down, ladies and gentlemen. Get your bets.

[Carson Hosvar]

All right, this segment of Dirty Modo is brought to you by FanDuel. I can't actually bet on the races, obviously, but we can talk about it and who we think will do well this week, we go to Sonoma, obviously. Sort of same contenders we have, you know. Yeah. You know, every week at the road, same heavy hitters. Same heavy hitters. Yep. Who's your pick? Who looks good other than 77.

[Tyler Green]

What about the 71? Can I say the 71? Yeah. He does keep It.

[Alex]

In the team.

[Carson Hosvar]

I mean, he. I think he has the best average finish at Sonoma.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah, he does really good on road courses.

[Carson Hosvar]

Really good.

[Tyler Green]

The. The Sonoma is probably one of his best places.

[Carson Hosvar]

So Super Bowl.

[Tyler Green]

It's true.

[Carson Hosvar]

Like, this, like, this is the, like, you know, like, ours is probably Atlanta, like, where I'm most excited going into it. Yeah. Michael's is probably Sonoma, like, where he's most excited.

[Tyler Green]

So pretty good weekend at San Diego. Not, not the best. Not what they wanted, but a good weekend for points. So they're trying to get yourself in the.

[Carson Hosvar]

They need to dig out of the hole. So, like, I mean, if you're going to come to a race where you're going to dig out a hole, this would be 1. Yeah. SVG obviously is going to be tough. Yeah, he obviously, I think, was expected to win everywhere on the last week, especially the way everybody was saying that he was going to win. And, you know, the question wasn't if he was going to win, it was just how margin. I was like, he's getting wrecked. Like, at some point something's going to happen. It's going to be similar to like Chicago when he went there the second time. Everybody's like, oh, he's, you know, he's just going to dominate. Which he was super fast. But at some point you get stuck in traffic. It's just the universe is gonna. Universe. Yeah.

[Tyler Green]

Cars change.

[Alex]

The interesting thing, though, is that he was getting past early in the race. It wasn't like he was dominating.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah. Got him for one corner and it wasn't. He was saving so much tire, though. But I, I don't know how good his car was.

[Alex]

Yeah, like, I don't, like, even if he was in the race, I don't think he was a guarantee to win.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, no, I don't. I don't think so.

[Tyler Green]

Everyone was lined up saving, and we were saving just as much as he was and we were backing up and like Blaine in if you guys were going forward. So I, I think.

[Carson Hosvar]

I don't think his car was, Was, was great now. I think as the track rubbered up at the end, it was his. His car would have shined like Sonoma with the most, but with how much tire wear we had at the start, his car was vulnerable.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah, I agree. And Sonoma ever want to be pretty much on the even playing field?

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah.

[Tyler Green]

Versus San Diego.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, it's going to be, you know, they're going to have a good balance, they're going to have a good setup, you know, it's not going to be a. Like I felt like at San Diego you might see some contenders kind of come out of the deal or you know, kind of rise or whatever or some contenders get thrown out of it. It was more or so not who hits on the setup. It was more about who doesn't miss. Yeah. Because I thought it was just going to be a bigger swing of just who missed versus like ah, they're a little better here. Like you weren't going to be able to see that too much.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

And make the difference. But you were going to be like oh they're terrible. Yeah. Like they're not. Like he's not even relevant to the, you know, X driver is not relevant. Yeah. I hope, hope for somebody I hope is not good just because where he is in points is busher but he's super good at Sonoma. But for, you know, considering he's seventh and we're ninth, I'm hoping he is not as fast as he normally is.

[Alex]

What do you think your chances are to have a solid day?

[Carson Hosvar]

I mean based after San Diego, I feel a little better for sure. And the, you know, Michael has really fast cars at Sonoma so like I'll have a good data point. Daniel's one at Sonoma. So they're super good too. Or I imagine they're going to be.

[Alex]

Do you sit down and talk to them or pick their brain or.

[Carson Hosvar]

No, I don't but like our crew chiefs do. Like they work really, really closely together. I don't know, I'm weird obviously but like I don't even watch other people's in cars. I watch my own.

[Tyler Green]

That's it.

[Carson Hosvar]

Like I think Dale asked me Saturdays like yeah, you know, what do you think SVG's in cars. I haven't watched a single lap of his in car. Like if I was slow I would probably watch it but like if I'm fast like I'm just gonna watch my own and I'll just be a self critic of myself.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

Cuz like I just know I can get into the zone of what my car feels like and everything. Like I don't know what he feels like. I don't know. I don't. Like I'm more so just reminding myself of what I had and like being like all right. I remember feeling like this and oh, I thought it looked better but I could have got further left or whatever.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

So yeah, I don't know. I look at. You know, as Tyler can attest, he sends me way more data than I ever look at.

[Alex]

Is there another driver that we should just be like thinking about for Sonoma?

[Carson Hosvar]

I. I got two already Tyler once.

[Tyler Green]

As far as who's gonna be good

[Carson Hosvar]

or who's gonna be good at something. He's gonna be good. I feel like Larson's a question mark. Like, like he.

[Tyler Green]

He probably in San Diego.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, he was good. That's what I mean.

[Tyler Green]

Yep. The nine. Nine could be good.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah. I would say, I would say Larson's probably likely to be fast for sure.

[Alex]

Yeah. I mean he was up there on Sunday.

[Carson Hosvar]

I think Reddick will be obviously fast.

[Tyler Green]

I think he'll be Toyota's. Yeah. Other than the Toyota is probably the 9 to 5 71.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah.

[Tyler Green]

So.

[Carson Hosvar]

So line up basically all the Toyotas. The 17.

[Alex]

Well 97. It'll be interesting though to see what the, the 20 does.

[Carson Hosvar]

Oh if they're gonna have him race.

[Alex]

Yeah, if they're switch again because that'll.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah. Last week didn't go good. No.

[Carson Hosvar]

Poor guy. So he just. Money shifted. Is that what happened?

[Tyler Green]

Double down off of data? Yes, off of that and the in car it sounded like it was about 10, 5 11,000 rpm for a couple seconds before it hand grenaded.

[Carson Hosvar]

That's brutal.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

Bad deal.

[Tyler Green]

Brutal. But I feel like for Christopher Sonoma's probably a little easier. I don't know. A broken leg is how many.

[Carson Hosvar]

How many?

[Tyler Green]

A little different than a broken.

[Carson Hosvar]

How many points is he ahead of 6 or 17th. Like what's he above the cut? So. So he is 422 verse. 362 and Shane 17th. So like you're looking at like potentially not a max points but like a win bonus for Shane.

[Tyler Green]

Get close to him.

[Carson Hosvar]

That's getting tight.

[Alex]

Yeah but Shane's got a. His playoff chances just took a big hit.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, no, I know but I'm. I mean, but still like. I mean Christopher is going to be good but like you got to think like you're going to start going to racetracks like Indy like where you're throwing massive blocks down. Straight away he's. Christopher's not going to be able to throw blocks like that quick. I don't think one handed you would

[Alex]

know more than me about.

[Tyler Green]

No, I know but blocking or driving.

[Carson Hosvar]

No, just not even trying to make the joke.

[Alex]

I'm just saying in terms of driving.

[Carson Hosvar]

I know but like ah that'd be difficult. Like I know at Pocono he said he's like I threw a block on him once and he never even considered it. And like I went back and, like, I realized, like, yeah, he. Yeah, they. He said. He's just like, yeah, I can't turn left that fast. Like, I can't. I can't just take advantage of direction. So I was like, dang, I took it. I. Sorry. Sorry. Christopher took advantage of a poor guy with a broken wrist. Dude, he was. He. He. Does he like road course racing?

[Tyler Green]

Christopher? Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

I don't know, because he was so excited. Free race. He was so pumped. Like, I don't know if he just was, like, pumped to, like, leave early or something, but he was, like, super excited. Yeah. Unless maybe he thought Brent was going to win the race and, like, get him a lot of points. But I, like, I think we all were like, dude, like, what's. Like, you are right. Like, you've never been so personable. Like, you're so excited.

[Tyler Green]

This is Sunday morning.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah. No, this was on the, like, trolley. Like, the little tram. Like, you know, all the drivers are around, and even I, like, asked Christopher. I was like, dude, are you, like. Like, you know, they hit you with, like, some painkillers?

[Tyler Green]

He was getting out of the car at that point.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah. He was like, I'm getting out 20 laps or less. Yeah.

[Alex]

First caution.

[Carson Hosvar]

First caution. They knew.

[Tyler Green]

Maybe he's happy for Brent to get the opportunity.

[Carson Hosvar]

I think, you know, he's. Yeah, for sure.

[Tyler Green]

He's a genuine person. No, he is.

[Carson Hosvar]

He is actually like, super, like, loyal, like, type of person and everything, so. And, you know, Brett being a dirt guy, like, he. Yeah, there's. There's a really good shot that he was just super excited for Brett and that he felt like Brett was gonna do a really good job for him. So he's like, I, you know, I get out. You know, this is perfect.

[Tyler Green]

Maybe best of both worlds. More points than he thought He.

[Carson Hosvar]

I mean, like, well, definitely more points than.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah, well, brokers.

[Carson Hosvar]

Well, I don't know. More points, you know, with the engine failure, but, like, definitely more points than he would have done with a broken wrist. Yeah, for sure. I mean, I remember when I broke my ankle and Daniel filled in for me and Daniel finished seventh. I was freaking pumped.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

I was like, yes, dude, he got me. I, like, gained points, like, on. On the day. I was like, yes. Like, that's awesome.

[Tyler Green]

And that was right before Sonoma.

[Carson Hosvar]

No. Yes. So I broke my ankle. I qualified on the pole. I bet in the fence, but I still qualified on the pole.

[Tyler Green]

Got it. At Sonoma.

[Carson Hosvar]

At Sonoma. And trucks six, ten, smash into the field. Got him. But Daniel filled in for me. Because NASCAR was not going to let me do the race. They're like, you can do 10 laps and then swap. So I swapped out, did everything. And Suarez. Yes, Suarez filled in because the track house relationship. Yeah, I know.

[Tyler Green]

So I spotted for him. I didn't realize that because I was spotting for you.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, you did.

[Alex]

Yeah.

[Tyler Green]

I didn't even think about Daniel filling in for you that time.

[TJ]

You did.

[Tyler Green]

I forgot who did that.

[Carson Hosvar]

And Frankie was the second spotter that day.

[Tyler Green]

Little did we know.

[Dale Jr.]

No, I know.

[Carson Hosvar]

We're going to have a conversation about that. No, I know. But Frankie was the second spotter.

[Tyler Green]

Yep.

[Carson Hosvar]

And you were spotting. And so we were all in. In the. In the game here. And Suarez filled in. And Suarez drove forward throughout the race because truck race, you know, cup guy, not that hard for him. Drives through the field, finishes seventh. And I was pumped. I was like, good points day. You know, it cost me zero effort and I gained points on the damsel.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

Easy shoot. This ain't. This ain't that tough. You just. You get a cup guy to fill in for you and you gain points. Like, this is not that hard.

[Tyler Green]

Just don't ask Alma Roll about it.

[Carson Hosvar]

Poor guy. Poor guy. First career win.

[Tyler Green]

I know.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah. No, we talk about that consistently. Like, just our group of. Just like, just weird NASCAR stuff. Yeah. And it's just like Almirall's first win. Didn't get to do it.

[Tyler Green]

Milwaukee.

[Carson Hosvar]

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[Alex]

Should we do like, maybe they need to have like some host of our stuff in this one. This, this time. Like we do it each month.

[Carson Hosvar]

Can they get their hands on the host of our stuff?

[Alex]

If they have any, like any hosts of our. It doesn't have to be Diecast if

[Tyler Green]

it's not sold out.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

If it's.

[Alex]

If it's just anything host of our stuff, maybe that'll help them get to first place and.

[Carson Hosvar]

Absolutely. Yeah. We would never rig it. Yeah, I would never figure out a way to, you know, rig a, you know, memorabilia collection deal and have a winner be my diecast.

[Alex]

Doesn't have to be Diecast door panels

[Carson Hosvar]

or Anything anyway since 2010, bestselling diecast.

[Alex]

So yeah, if you have any host of our stuff, send that in. You'll get. It's like a fast pass to maybe when.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, no, it should be just like Disney. I was just saying just like Disney. Tyler's obsessed with Disney. He's a Disney adult. I didn't know two girls. Yeah.

[Alex]

Oh, you've got kids. That's okay.

[Carson Hosvar]

No, no, do not use. No, do not use that.

[Tyler Green]

I mean, I still have a good time.

[Carson Hosvar]

Do not use that excuse.

[Tyler Green]

Okay.

[Carson Hosvar]

Do not use it.

[Alex]

It's different.

[Carson Hosvar]

You would go on your own. No, you kind of have. Because the. Do you take the girls when you run? Yes, they go. Okay, yeah, that's fair.

[Tyler Green]

We all go. It's a family thing. It started as a family thing. But I'm not saying if we were down there like and we could sneak away. My wife might be really mad at me for going. But you know, if you want to go ride garden Disney adult.

[Carson Hosvar]

She loves it. Yeah, she loves Disney World. So I could say That I could. I could make fun of you. I'm not even making fun of you. I'm just more saying, you know, you'd go with me. No, no, I. 100.

[Dale Jr.]

No.

[Carson Hosvar]

I'm just insane. Embrace it.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah.

[Carson Hosvar]

Do not be a closeted Disney.

[Tyler Green]

I mean, I'm not wearing the Mickey ears or the tails or anything, but I'm there wearing my Mickey shirt.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah. No, so that's what I mean. When you're a Disney adult, I feel like that's a bad. You get a bad rep. You. A crazy Disney adult is the, you know, painting and, you know, wearing the Mickey ears and, you know, doing everything aggressively. Yeah. Just going and, you know, enjoying embracing your job.

[Tyler Green]

The churros.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah. Yeah. Wait, churros?

[Tyler Green]

Yeah, like in Cinnamon San Antonio. What? This is another movie reference out.

[Carson Hosvar]

No, that's a Charles Barkley reference.

[Tyler Green]

I don't know that one either.

[Carson Hosvar]

Travis, have you filmed me in. Have you heard that one? Yes.

[Dale Jr.]

Yes.

[Carson Hosvar]

Dude did churros. No, no, no. Oh, so I don't.

[Tyler Green]

We'll talk about later. Okay. All right, good.

[Carson Hosvar]

Churros. Yeah, I already got.

[Tyler Green]

I got Disney what you're talking about.

[Carson Hosvar]

We don't want to mix, but no, the trails are good. Yeah. I do enjoy them. No. So I have a absolute, you know, gripe or, you know, I don't know, grudge against Disney. They took out lights, motor action at Hollywood Studios.

[Tyler Green]

The show.

[Carson Hosvar]

Please tell me you've seen it. The stunt show. Yeah, yeah, they stole that. They took that out for Damn. Star wars. Apparently, you know, a multi gazillion. That's dollar.

[Tyler Green]

We got into the Disney stuff, but you missed out.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, dude, they had a Herbie and there was always a churros stand right next to Herbie.

[Tyler Green]

That have been a good.

[Carson Hosvar]

It was awesome.

[Tyler Green]

Well, now they have cars land. At least. I mean, it's not Herbie, but at least they have cars laying.

[Carson Hosvar]

They had like cars jumping and like blowing up. Blowing up and like going.

[Tyler Green]

Universal had something.

[Carson Hosvar]

They had like cars getting jumped and like going on to other cars. And they had like, like. It was literally like choreographed car drifting.

[Tyler Green]

Indiana Jones for cars.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yes, it was. That's exactly what it was. And you know, like cars blowing up, but like they had like guns and stuff and they were shooting each other and it was. And then they took it away for

[Tyler Green]

Star Wars 3 or 4 years old when this is going on.

[Carson Hosvar]

Right. So I 100% would cheat the hell out of the system. So they would always have. Would always have a kid get picked at the end towards the end, the end of the show. And they would. They. In one of the stunt cars, they had a car where it wanted to look like it was remote control. Like, so in the, you know, because Hollywood studios, they're pretty much going with the deal of, like, you're behind the scenes of like, Hollywood.

[Tyler Green]

Right?

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah. So you were basically watching like a car stunt show movie get played. Like, they had a director, they had Indiana Jones. Yeah, Indiana Jones. But you know, for that, if people know. And so they had a driver on the side of the door, and that's where he sat. So it looked like if you're on camera, there was nobody on the door. No, but like, actually on the side of the door. Like, side of the door. Like, he was not, like, visible if you weren't on the side he was on.

[Tyler Green]

Okay, yeah, he's hiding.

[Carson Hosvar]

He was hiding. Yeah. And so they had. They would get a kid to be convinced that they drive the car via remote control, but secretly they have a guy just on the side of the car. Yeah. And so I always thought that was really fun. So I figured out, because I had gone so many times, I figured out exactly where they picked the kid. Like, what section they would always go to, where, like, what to do. Oh, yeah, full blown rigging this thing. One time I got picked twice in the same day and I had a. I had the shows T shirt on, like, and I would always play the part. I was like, I don't. I don't know what's about to happen at all.

[Tyler Green]

So what would you do when they picked you?

[Carson Hosvar]

So they would be like, all right, you know, come down where you from? And you know, they'd be like, I'd be like, I'm. I'm Carson from Michigan. And they'd be like, all right, you know, hand clap for Carson for Michigan. Yay. He's gonna drive a real car with the remote control. And it's like, all right, you know, move it. Put your hand here and then move it forward. And then the car would move forward and then all right, back, back. And then they're like, all right. And now what you're gonna do now that you have the control is you're gonna run it wide open, and then you're gonna put it backwards, run it wide open to reverse. And then you're gonna. And then you can do whatever you want. So, you know, you then push it wide open and go wide open back. And then all of a sudden the car would start spinning and it'd be like, oh, what's happening? And then you. Then it would reveal, like, there's actually a guy driving it, not you. Oh, he was never driving it, but congratulations. So what did you do? What did I.

[Tyler Green]

No, I, like, turn. Did you just, like, go to the.

[Carson Hosvar]

No, I was on the jump. No, I was just on the Jumbo tr. No, I never exposed the show. No, I never exposed the show. I never exposed the show ever. You know, part of me always felt bad after that. I was like, man, I robbed a lot of kids of that opportunity. But I was like, man, I was. But I just. It was my favorite show all the time. All the time. I went to that show every day.

[Alex]

So before we wrap, though, we have one question. I think that. Well, the Internet has one question. K. Adams.

[Carson Hosvar]

What.

[Alex]

Where we at with this?

[Carson Hosvar]

I'm a fan. I like your show. I enjoy it. What about it? I just.

[Alex]

Everyone's been asking, you know, what's going on. You're firing off tweets. Do you know her age?

[Carson Hosvar]

Yes, I do know her age. I'm doing. I'm a fan. Yeah, yeah, I know. Like, so I went. So I introduced myself and everything in the Driver's Main, and she was laughing. She's like, man, you're, like, by far the most confident guy here. It's like, yeah, probably, you know, whatever. And she's like, yeah, I was told you're the bad boy of nascar. I was like, who said that? She's like, I don't know you. I was just told that's Carson and he's the bad boy of nascar, and you got to talk to him. I was like, well, you're talking. Yeah, here I am. Yeah. And so we started, you know, talking and whatever, and so we're done and everything. And she got me pretty good. So I, like, saw her. And so I, like. I walked over. I was like, hey, I heard you're in the pace car. And she's like, yeah, what does that mean? I don't even know what that means. What's the pace? Like, what is that? And I was like, you serious? Like, you know, like, it's the car at the front. You know, you'll be. And she's just like, yeah, I know what it is. Like, you know, whatever. I was like, oh, okay. And I was like, well, I actually qualified up front, so I'll see you up there. And so then I rolled up next to her, and I rolled up next to her, and she started waving. She had her phone out, and she started blowing me kisses.

[Tyler Green]

I was like, yes, yes, dude, yes.

[Carson Hosvar]

And so we're waving and everything. And then I just like having fun after that, you know, the tweets and stuff.

[Tyler Green]

So.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah.

[Alex]

All right.

[Carson Hosvar]

I don't know. I just think it's funnier when you do it, like, publicly. You know, everybody's like, get a room, get a D, get in the DMs, like, nah, that's weird. That's weird.

[Alex]

I agree.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, it's a lot more funny. And it's funny to be flirtatious while I do it for the fun of the game. It scares me when it works.

[Alex]

Sounds good.

[Carson Hosvar]

True. It's true. I do it for the love of the game. All right, well, that's it. Thank you, Tyler, for filling in for tj.

[Alex]

Yeah, I like this upgrade.

[Tyler Green]

Thanks.

[Carson Hosvar]

You're a lot more right on points and stuff.

[Tyler Green]

I will say. All circling back, the. My favorite thing about TJ is going back to Disney. His wife is our travel agent, so. Oh, yeah, I can't talk too bad. Yeah. Because they'll. They'll cancel our plan, so.

[Carson Hosvar]

But no, thank you to. Thank you to Dale, Dirty Mo Media, everybody, for, you know, considering me to fill in for. For Dale. This is obviously, I've been a fan of him for, you know, basically my whole life, so it's very cool. And, you know, thanks, Tyler, for be willing to step out of your comfort zone and talk for, you know, sometimes. I know you don't do that often, maybe don't do that for a living, but, you know, I appreciate you coming on here and being vulnerable and talking to the people and everything. Yeah. Appreciate it. Thanks, Travis. Thanks, everybody.

[Tyler Green]

Yeah, thanks, guys.

[Carson Hosvar]

Yeah, that's another wrap of this, this, this show. I'm sure there's a end card with Dale or something. Or if not, is there, Travis? Yeah, there is.

[Alex]

Perfect.

[Carson Hosvar]

All right, then that's it for me.

[Tyler Green]

Okay, thanks.

[Dale Jr.]

Thanks again for Carson and Tyler for filling in and giving us a great show today. I hope you guys enjoyed that. Maybe it'll encourage Carson to. To drop in even more and take over some hosting duties and give me an opportunity to take the family on some more vacations. TJ and I will be back next week in the Arby's studio. Don't forget about Arby's new meet in three box. You get more meal for your money at Arby's. We have the meats. We'll see you tomorrow. Check out Dirty Mo Media on Instagram, Facebook X and TikTok.

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