
Corner-Cutting & Soul-Crushing Losses
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Dale Jr.
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TJ Majors
I don't know if we've ever argued that piss you off over the weekend.
Dale Jr.
Or I'm still sour that I was the best man at your wedding.
Russell the Professor
Who was your best man, Dale?
Dale Jr.
Tj. Tj? You don't need a cool vest for that race. What are you thinking? Get him, DJ Hell. Way to start the show.
TJ Majors
All right then.
Dale Jr.
Hey, Everybody, it's Dale Jr. Back again for another episode of the Dale Jr. Download. It's Tuesday. It's dirty air. I'm here with my great friend and co host to TJ Majors, spotter extraordinaire, working with Brad Keselowski.
TJ Majors
I appreciate you introducing me like that today.
Dale Jr.
Well, hell, man, I am a lean on you a little bit. All right. Because I didn't watch much of the race. I just saw the end.
TJ Majors
I watched every lap.
Dale Jr.
Did you? All right, well, one particular car for every lap. Yeah.
TJ Majors
Scanned around a lot too. So. You always do.
Dale Jr.
I. I saw all of the xfinity race and all of my cars tore race from the passenger door or passenger window, because I was sideways.
TJ Majors
But why are you letting it push around like that?
Dale Jr.
I was loose.
TJ Majors
I would. I would imagine.
Dale Jr.
I was trying to.
TJ Majors
Behind me, they had your quarter panel all pushed up in pretty far.
Dale Jr.
One of them little smart asses walked up to me and asked me if I didn't hear my spotter. I said, I'm just trying to keep you behind.
TJ Majors
Dang.
Dale Jr.
Yeah, man. It's kids. You believe it. Anyways. Anyways.
TJ Majors
Did you get mad?
Dale Jr.
No, it's. It's all. It's what it's all about.
TJ Majors
Yeah.
Dale Jr.
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TJ Majors
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Dale Jr.
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TJ Majors
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Dale Jr.
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TJ Majors
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Russell the Professor
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Dale Jr.
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TJ Majors
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Dale Jr.
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TJ Majors
It is. Yeah.
Dale Jr.
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Russell the Professor
I've got a couple.
Dale Jr.
And I don't know. Last time I went into a Bass.
TJ Majors
Pro, I was actually. Travis is one of them.
Dale Jr.
Oh, yeah. You got a couple Bass for hats.
Russell the Professor
Yeah.
Dale Jr.
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Russell the Professor
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Dale Jr.
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Russell the Professor
I have shopped online, though, on their website.
Dale Jr.
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TJ Majors
We can't tell.
Dale Jr.
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TJ Majors
Dang.
Dale Jr.
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TJ Majors
That's great. And, dude, I do the same thing.
Dale Jr.
Hey, the club card for Bass Pro Shops. If you love Bass Pro Shops. If you're an outdoorsman, hunter, fisherman, you know, camping, whatever it might be. I'm telling you, man, if you had the card and you're just going about your daily life, right? Paying for all your utilities and all the things that you need for quality cost of living, you know? Yeah. You're gonna catch some breaks when you need to go buy something from the Bass Pro. I love it. Plan your next adventure at a Bass Pro Shops near you or online@bass pro.com. i got the app. We got a lot to talk about. Let's jump right into the Xfinity race. The. Oh, yeah, I heard you had a take. I heard you had a take on Connor Zillich and his move at the end of the race.
TJ Majors
Yeah, I don't. I mean, it's not just Connor.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. Well, let's talk about Connor.
TJ Majors
Connor did a great job.
Dale Jr.
All right. I mean, was Connor's move legal?
TJ Majors
Yeah, it was. According to the precedence or the rules? They said yes.
Dale Jr.
Connor's. Connors move legal?
TJ Majors
Yeah, it was. I don't. I mean, they.
Dale Jr.
You think, though, that. Okay, we're fine. I thought you were going to say that it was not legal.
TJ Majors
No, it was legal. According to what they. According to. Well, I mean, he didn't run the full chicane still. You know what I mean?
Dale Jr.
That's the rule right there. Either one of those yellow lines there.
TJ Majors
Yeah.
Dale Jr.
I mean, he run one of them.
TJ Majors
The problem with this is the the penalty for cutting the course is not worse than the racetrack itself.
Dale Jr.
That ain't his problem.
TJ Majors
No, I'm just. What I'm saying, he, you know, he did what he. I mean, I don't blame him. I mean, that's smart doing.
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
TJ Majors
I mean, great job doing that. But this, the shortcut for missing a corner should not be a. Should not be faster.
Dale Jr.
I know.
TJ Majors
Why do we stop everywhere we go? If you cut it at all, you have to stop. But we go to here and they say go ahead.
Dale Jr.
I can't argue that maybe how they did it at Portland wasn't as much of a deterrent. And so, you know, I would just say I'm glad we're not going back.
TJ Majors
Oh, for sure.
Dale Jr.
You know, and it's nothing to do with location or really anything else, but the fact that that turn 12 combination is just not good.
TJ Majors
And I thought, you know, they move restart zones around there. I thought maybe, you know, the resar zone must be too far up still, because they are all over each other.
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
TJ Majors
Well into the first corner still.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. I mean, I just feel like that, that, that type of a turn, being the first, that type of a. That turn, that little kink, chicane, whatever you want to call it, that being the very first turn you're going to enter after a restart for any racetrack is a bad idea. It's just not a good design. Sorry.
TJ Majors
And do you think even across like Formula one series is a bad design too? Or do you think. Well, that's their. That's what they mainly run is. It's definitely a bad. I think it's definitely bad for.
Russell the Professor
Bad for Formula one's different though, because they know that if they barely touch their like cars ruins, so they have basically avoid trying to touch.
Dale Jr.
I mean, we got. We got 4. 4 wide on that final restart. Yeah, that's 4 wide. The majority of the cars miss the inner cut. The inner curb. The majority of the top five cut turn two.
TJ Majors
And yep, the sixth car in line here is the first car to make it. Carson Kwapple is the first car to make it. Carson is actually seventh into that corner.
Dale Jr.
Carson is the first car that drove it correctly and he was sixth or seventh going into the. Going into the turn. Yep, six place that right there isn't any fun. I don't. I don't know that. That's just something we really don't need to be doing, I guess.
TJ Majors
Do you think moving the restart zone.
Dale Jr.
No further would the corner is the problem corner? Just get rid of the corner.
TJ Majors
Yeah.
Dale Jr.
Can we go straight? Could we just run straight down into turn?
TJ Majors
No.
Dale Jr.
Why?
TJ Majors
Because that next runoff. Well, I mean, why couldn't you. Because it's pretty narrow there too. It's a right hander. It's another right hander. It's not quite as sharp. It's not sharp. It's not as sharp. But it's a second gear corner. Could be second on the edge of third.
Dale Jr.
I don't know, man. I think that there's a lot of pavement right there where you could probably design something just a little bit different. I think that, that, that hard right hander to get over to turn two is just way too much going. That's just way too much. So for the NASCAR series, if we ever do go back to Portland, they need to redesign this part. They just do. It's just.
TJ Majors
How is that any different than Watkins Glen?
Dale Jr.
Watkins glen has a 90 degree turn in turn one and then you drive straight into another 90 degree turn.
TJ Majors
But I mean the first corner is pretty much a 90 and they're still diving in there. They're still gonna. If this is a 90 degree corner, them guys up the inside, what are you still going to hit?
Dale Jr.
Arguing.
TJ Majors
They're still going to hit. Whether it's a 90 or a cutback.
Dale Jr.
I don't got a problem with them hitting.
TJ Majors
So you're just saying you don't.
Dale Jr.
I don't like the fact that none of them make turn to tj. This chicane is bull. That you shouldn't have this, this aggressive. Okay, you're saying this aggressive of a chicane at the end of the front straightaway, especially when you're going to have a green, white checkered. The same damn thing. The same problem we had at Indianapolis road course.
TJ Majors
It's just the exact same thing as Indy.
Dale Jr.
Yeah, that's. It's just no fun. Like is this, this ain't, this ain't what we're trying to do here.
TJ Majors
But doesn't some of that fall in the driver's hands too though?
Dale Jr.
No.
TJ Majors
You don't think any of the.
Dale Jr.
Not at all. That car's got to give them a little better situation here. I would say if I'm the promoter, track owner or the series manager, I would say I didn't put them in a good position to succeed.
TJ Majors
You're definitely kicking the door wide open and saying, here you go guys, I run a series.
Dale Jr.
So I feel like I would say if I'm running, if I'm owning a series, say, and they're getting ready to have this restart this would be what I'd be afraid might happen, not be this. You know, I don't know how people feel, but I would not want this be the result. Right.
TJ Majors
Oh, I agree with that.
Dale Jr.
T.J. me and you are standing there in the booth. We own the series. We're getting ready to see the final restart. Is this what you hope happens?
TJ Majors
It's not what I want to see happen, no.
Dale Jr.
Right. So I don't want to see this happen. So what can I do?
TJ Majors
I do want to see the. I do want to see first and second going there side by side.
Dale Jr.
What can I do? Me and you're the series owners.
TJ Majors
All right, what can we do?
Dale Jr.
What can we do to try to prevent this before they even get on the track?
TJ Majors
I mean, don't create it first of all.
Dale Jr.
Create what?
TJ Majors
That corner, right?
Dale Jr.
Change the corner.
TJ Majors
Don't give them the opportunity, just get rid of it.
Dale Jr.
This is F1. This is IndyCar bullshit. That's fine in any car and F1 for them to run that. That type of a corner. We don't need corners like that. That's it. That's the answer. Get rid of the corner. We don't have this no more. We don't have to worry about it. Nobody likes this corner. Nobody's sitting there going, oh man, don't get rid of that corner.
Russell the Professor
Nobody can be happy about this now.
Dale Jr.
Nobody's. Are we. Where's the. Where's another corner like this on the schedule? Turn one at Charlotte, 9° left Roval right term, which is fine. It's not a switchback. I'm just saying the switchback bull is what we. What we need to avoid. We've had problems with it at. At the Indy road course. I would say that, you know, just don't need to do this. Do this kind of stuff. Run this type of racetrack.
TJ Majors
Indy, coda, anytime, a little bit.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. Code is a little bit of a problem.
TJ Majors
It's worse because it's not a 90, it's a U turn.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. I don't love that track anyways, but I mean, good race there this year.
TJ Majors
Yeah, it was better. Yeah, it was better this last year. They cut off.
Dale Jr.
I just. Not a. I'm not like. If you had a. If you're like, hey man, you're going to go to 10 races, right? Coda wouldn't make my list. I'd go to some different tracks, but that's just me. I'm personal opinion.
TJ Majors
I actually liked Coda this year with the short track.
Dale Jr.
I did too.
TJ Majors
I liked that a lot. And I remember.
Dale Jr.
I think rope courses in our series should be short in distance.
TJ Majors
We had a lot of good things. I think even you said after the. The show, after that, you. We were all about the shorter course there because they were just packed up more and racing more. So it was much, much better.
Dale Jr.
And the chance that the back. The front of the field might catch the back of the field during a stage. Right. The stages are so short.
TJ Majors
That's always good. Yes, that's always good.
Dale Jr.
All right. So you feel good about Zillich. You don't. Look. I mean, you don't.
TJ Majors
I don't love it.
Dale Jr.
You don't love. He had to go through the. He didn't do anything wrong with it.
Russell the Professor
The best driver won, though, so it's not as bad. Like, if someone else would have done that and won, I think we would have had a bad feeling.
TJ Majors
I would feel better about it if he just didn't intentionally cut the course on purpose. But, I mean, he's got to protect himself here, and if you don't, you're probably getting wrecked.
Russell the Professor
So.
Dale Jr.
But.
Russell the Professor
But Dale, you got to be saying, I'm glad he cut this. The course on purpose. Like, games.
TJ Majors
He's getting wrecked if he. If he tries to make that corner. He's getting hit by the 8, gets hit by the 48. Like, he's getting wrecked right here.
Dale Jr.
If I'm anybody in the. In the series that thinks they got a chance to win, I'm telling my driver on Wednesday. I want you to take a look at that. I want you to figure out how to get through there, because if you're leading this race, coming down into the breaking zone, if you're in a top three, I just want you to go through there. Don't even try to make the corner.
TJ Majors
Well, guys from the back were doing it regardless, just all the time. Yeah, I guess. I guess. One car made up 28 spots on restarts all day and ran the. Ran the shortcut every time.
Dale Jr.
You know who it was?
TJ Majors
Honeyman. So Denny said.
Russell the Professor
Ty Gibbs said when they were traveling to Darlington when he raced there that he did the same thing and went from, like, 28th to 5th.
Dale Jr.
Sure.
Russell the Professor
So, like, I don't know why we're. Why are we shocked that we've. This has happened before? And, like, I don't.
Dale Jr.
That's an even. That's. Isn't that. Shouldn't that even be a bigger concern?
TJ Majors
Is that why we didn't fix it?
Dale Jr.
We're. Well, there's. You know, we're going to look at The Connors move and focus on that. But. Yeah, but you see all them cars behind that are just going to go straight. They're not even trying to make the corner. They're just trying to gain all the spots because the guys that are stacked up, spun around and running into each other in turn to. What do you feel should be done about the cars that didn't make turn two, that didn't run the A frame but also didn't get around the curb into.
TJ Majors
I don't think they should get their finishing positions. If you cut the curb. Like I literally go back and look at like the roval.
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
TJ Majors
And guys were getting penalty penalties for being a foot inside the curb. These guys.
Dale Jr.
I wonder why. I mean, I probably honestly could have called somebody to ask this question. But why wouldn't you say, all right, you know, ten second penalty, something. Right. I mean this would. There's, there's. They probably can't just throw a 10 second penalty on you out of nowhere. But there's probably some protocol or something already in place. Everybody knew beforehand if you didn't do. If you don't run the A frame.
TJ Majors
Yeah. Your lap don't count.
Dale Jr.
It's like a lot of second. It's like 30 seconds or some. The penalty or your lap don't count. Why didn't they do that?
TJ Majors
If you blow the bus.
Dale Jr.
I mean, it's the most important lap of the race.
TJ Majors
If you load the bus stop at Watkins Glen. If you don't stop, your lap gets.
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
TJ Majors
Thrown out.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. But I would argue to TJ there's plenty of guys that run on the inside of the curbs there in the final few laps. We've had some incredible races where like you know Brad Keselowski.
TJ Majors
Through the grass.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. Going through the grass. I know it's not the fast way. They didn't gain an advantage, but they certainly didn't run. They did put four tires off the racetrack and cut the corner. And NASCAR hasn't stepped in to do anything before. Yeah. I guess they view this differently. Like, hey, they were trying. Yeah. You know, a lot of contact. It's hard to say what they might have been able to do if there weren't contact.
Russell the Professor
But you shouldn't be able to judge off intent. It's did you or did you not do it?
Dale Jr.
You know. Well, I think that there is that. I think that NASCAR's made it clear that they do judge off of intent and they try to. It seems like in a lot of cases they go with. If you can't tell Like a, like a guy spinning out on purpose. I can watch a race and I can. If a guy spins out on purpose, I can probably tell nine out of ten times. Right, tj, Wouldn't you be able to do that too?
TJ Majors
I think we know. Yes, we know.
Dale Jr.
But NASCAR is not going to call it unless there's an admit, admit. You know, you admit it or NASCAR won't call it all the time. Right. And you know, this guy spun out on purpose. And they don't, they don't call it unless you come out and admit it. And so they, they govern uniquely to what? Like, you know, it's easy for us to armchair quarterback this the day later or, or a couple days later, but man, in that moment, I would have been like, guns, I'm a, you know, I love you cutting the corners.
TJ Majors
I mean, a lot of them there, I think they saw one guy cut, so they all started cutting.
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
TJ Majors
Like there's, they're not wrecking through there. All of them are not wrecking. They're just turning left to cut it and going with it.
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
TJ Majors
So it's just frustrating.
Dale Jr.
I, I, I just hate the corner and get rid of the corner. We don't have the problem. But also, I wish they would have penalized several of these guys for missing the corner. But then, yeah, you know, you go back and look at other races in history that we even celebrate some really, really fantastic finishes at road courses. And there's some times when guys have cut some corners in those fantastic finishes that we love.
TJ Majors
Yeah. But I mean, even, even you go back to the Watkins going thing with Brad, there was, there was oil on the track as well.
Dale Jr.
I don't care.
TJ Majors
I'm just saying. I know what you're saying, but who.
Russell the Professor
Do you spot for again?
TJ Majors
Tj, why don't. Those guys were sliding into lines.
Dale Jr.
I don't even know if it was Brad that cut the corner. I'm just saying that this has happened before and they didn't do anything then. And we never, we as a fan never went, whoa, why didn't he get black flag, both of them off the track? You know, Kyle Busch is the winner or whatever. Right. So I just, this, I don't know, I think these, these like road course bowling down into turn one finishes. I don't like them. I do not like them. It's not, they're not fun.
Russell the Professor
It's not nascar.
TJ Majors
No, no. It's because like up the inside there, you got the guy from four rows back just.
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
TJ Majors
And he's not breaking to everyone Else, you know, they're.
Dale Jr.
I don't put it on the drivers at all.
TJ Majors
I mean, you have to put a little bit on the driver because they're. They're driving in deeper. When they got them locked up into the corner, that's not on the driver. You know your braking zone. You've had a lot of restarts here today.
Dale Jr.
Put it on the driver. I'm gonna say the track needs to get rid of that freaking corner. Otherwise, a pretty fun race to watch. Pretty entertaining race, my guy. I had a tough deal as an owner. Justin got spun out off the nose of Carson Quapple. Carson ran turn one like you're supposed to, and him and Justin ran. Ran into each other, and that sucked. They got spun around.
TJ Majors
I almost feel like Justin was expecting Carson to cut it.
Dale Jr.
I guess Sammy had. Sammy ran a great race all day. Sammy.
TJ Majors
He did.
Dale Jr.
Remember when Sammy did what he did at Martinsville, we all got in his.
TJ Majors
Yeah, about that.
Dale Jr.
We gave such a hard time, but he has done a really good job this year.
Russell the Professor
He's just gone about his business.
Dale Jr.
He just went back to work. We told him, too. We're like, man, everybody thinks you're punk. You're giving them a good reason to think that. Don't give them the reason. Right. You go out there and. Go out there and figure it out. Go out there and work, rebuild, gain back your reputation. He's worked hard to just be solid, and he has. He's starting to. We're starting to. I've seen him just get better as a driver.
TJ Majors
So if you could erase Martinsville, it would do wonders for him.
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
TJ Majors
I mean, when you say Sammy Experience, I think when you say Sammy Smith, the first thing you're going to think.
Dale Jr.
About that I said it, and you didn't even remember it.
TJ Majors
You said I was kidding. Because it was so, remember, memorable that you cannot forget that.
Dale Jr.
Well, 24 starts, eight wins for Connor Zillich. Having an incredible year, and there's still more season left. Justin Allgaier sitting there in second, 20 points back. Sam Mayor, Jesse Love, Austin Hill, Carson Kwaple, Brandon Jones.
TJ Majors
You got half of the top eight. Yeah, that's pretty good.
Dale Jr.
We've had a pretty solid year here. Motorsports, you know, we just got to get Carson, Kwapo in the victory circle. It's been a tough, tough, tough year for some of our teams. At different points. I don't know, we'll kind of see. Kind of see where we are. This is. This is the kind of where you get a chance if you've Been kind of clunking along and struggling a little bit. Maybe not really running like you want. The, the, the little quick, little brief like break between the clean break, I guess between regular season to playoffs is the opportunity to kind of hit the reset button. And we're going to more traditional style racetracks outside of the Roval, I guess. But the Roval's been pretty good for us too. But St. Louis this weekend, man, I had a good run up there once. Beat Randy Lajoy I think in 99.
TJ Majors
Back when it was super hot there and the day you raced in the daytime there, didn't you?
Dale Jr.
No, that one's night race. I ran, I ran in 97 and I got in a wreck and I joked that I got in the wreck on purpose because it was so damn hot. I was ready to get out. I really didn't run into that wreck on purpose, but I relief drove for Glenn Allen Jr. That day. That was fun.
TJ Majors
So the 99, yeah, he got out.
Dale Jr.
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Russell the Professor
Yo, TJ, I see you've been walking around with the new phone. Where'd you get that new phone?
TJ Majors
Yeah, man, I love this phone. I recently joined a consumer cellular family and they hooked me up, man. I got a great new phone and the service is awesome.
Russell the Professor
That's great. But like, how's it, Iowa, Richmond, some of these other tracks. Because it's great when you're at home, but like when I'm on the road, my phone is crap.
TJ Majors
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Dale Jr.
Before we go on to the cup race, Joe Logano had this comment on the playoff format. Jeff Gluck with the Athletic and here at dirtymo Media. Him and Jordan Miyake were at Fan Day over the course of the week where they talked to all of the playoff drivers about all the things going on in the, in the NASCAR universe before they went to Darlington. Joe Logano says, as a fan, I want to see drivers scared. And our playoff system does that. I've always been the person to say, if you're complaining about it, then just go do better. If you scored a bunch of points during the regular season and you didn't make it to the championship four, then shame on you. You had a head start and you still couldn't do it. But don't say it's not legit. You could have gone out there and won to get it and you didn't. Just because it didn't work out for you, it doesn't mean change the rules. The only thing, like I think first thing I want to say is this. You can believe that Joey Logano is a legitimate champion and still believe that the playoffs should Be different. So I, I think that Joey is a legitimate champion. I think that Joey's trophies that he has in his possession are as cool, as real and as real and as, and as historic as any other champion in our, in our series ever. Right. All through the history of nascar, every championship has been won under a different set of circumstances, whether it be how the playoff points are tallied, whether it be the competition level. You could argue, you know, in the 70s, there were eight capable cars of winning races. Maybe even less capable drivers of winning a championship.
TJ Majors
Oh, way less.
Dale Jr.
Right now we have. Oh, it's tough. You know, it's way more competitive. My point being that not just the playoffs and how you score points has changed. The sports evolved. Every championship is unique. So are Joey's. But I don't think that the single race format is the best way to decide.
TJ Majors
I don't either the champion.
Dale Jr.
It doesn't mean that Joey doesn't deserve to be celebrated and it doesn't mean that if they were to change, doesn't really dilute or take away from what he accomplished.
TJ Majors
What's done is done.
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
Russell the Professor
And he says you had a head start. Well, the points reset.
Dale Jr.
That's the other thing that he's missing. I think when he, at the, if you, if we could look at it, at the end of the regular season, he was over 200 points behind the leader. That advantage was erased in his favor. He went from how many races out of the points lead to like one.
Russell the Professor
And then they get erased after each.
TJ Majors
Round the same way.
Dale Jr.
Yeah, that's the way I see it.
TJ Majors
You're definitely. This, this system definitely benefits.
Dale Jr.
You went from eight races behind the leader in points to one race. I mean, that's nice when, you know.
TJ Majors
You end the season with some strong races for your company or your team. Like, you're gonna.
Dale Jr.
Yeah, all you.
TJ Majors
And he is, he is arguably the best at this type of system. He knows how to grind out every single point and take those. Like, he like.
Dale Jr.
Well, the other thing too is, is the 48 gets throwed out. He wouldn't even been in the next round if the 48 wasn't a limit. I mean, there was just so many weird things that happened. And, you know, I just feel like that change is coming and, and I think that NASCAR has warmed up to the idea that they're hearing enough to, to convince them that they probably do need to make an adjustment. Now. What that is, it's, it's. I would say, if I had to guess, we're looking at a probably A three or four race round to decide the title. And I think.
TJ Majors
I like.
Dale Jr.
I do too. I do too. I like it too. And, and. But I think that, you know, Joey can go to bed feeling comfortable and confident. I know people use him as an example as to why we need change. It's a good example to use.
TJ Majors
It is.
Dale Jr.
It is. But he did win it. He does have the trophy. Just like Benny Parsons one in 1973. Only finishing on the lead lap once all year long. Just like, you know, Kenseth in O3, I believe. Right. He. He wins the race and just consistently was awesome all year. So consistent then and wanted early over guys like Jimmy Johnson, Jeff Gordon. Really, really good competitive teams and he.
TJ Majors
Would qualify like 30 year.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. Hey, no matter how it's won, it's won. Right. But I think we can all agree that there's not a perfect system. There never will be a perfect playoff format. Never. And. But we all do think that there needs to be a little bit bigger of a sample size of final races for that final round. And I think that's probably what we're going to get.
TJ Majors
Do you feel like people complain about this system more than the original? Add the points up all year.
Dale Jr.
Nobody complained about that.
TJ Majors
Well, I mean, it was.
Dale Jr.
The only person that complained about that.
TJ Majors
Was there wasn't as much chatter.
Russell the Professor
You didn't have social media like you do now.
TJ Majors
We didn't. Yes, true too. There wasn't social media because when they locked the championship, leaving before the last race, that was.
Dale Jr.
So no one complained about that. I was around.
TJ Majors
I mean. Yeah, I know. I mean, I went through it too.
Dale Jr.
When somebody won the championship early, it.
TJ Majors
Was like, like, damn, you're good.
Dale Jr.
Badass.
TJ Majors
You were celebrated more.
Dale Jr.
Or when you were in such a good position, all you had to do was start the last race.
TJ Majors
I know.
Dale Jr.
Damn.
TJ Majors
I never been in that position, but that must have been pretty cool.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. I was in it in the Xfinity series and it was.
TJ Majors
Did they do the garage doll in the Xfinity series too? Remember when we were practice, the champion always got that first stall? They did that too.
Dale Jr.
I don't know.
TJ Majors
I don't remember.
Dale Jr.
I mean, yeah, I'm sure I always.
TJ Majors
Thought that was kind of cool too, but.
Dale Jr.
Well, nobody complained about the original 36 point, 36 race point system. I think Brian France didn't like what happened when Matt locked it up. The networks probably were thinking, you know.
TJ Majors
Yeah, there's no game seven.
Dale Jr.
Yeah, can we do something different? But as far as like a fan base, nobody Was complaining. No. Maybe if you had a Jeff gluck pole, maybe 5, 10% thought that there should be something different.
TJ Majors
I sure wish we could go back.
Dale Jr.
And guess, but it was not. There's not a lot of. And it's a damn shame because that probably would have saved us if there would have been a public poll. I bet it we still have the 36. 36 race points because they would have been enough evidence. Right. That there was, you know, good support for it.
TJ Majors
Do you ever see the page that actually calculates the points like how they used to? Like. I always look at that. I think it's kind of cool.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. Chase Briscoe's within is 18 point.
TJ Majors
Bell 30 something.
Dale Jr.
26. TJ.
TJ Majors
Sorry, the light.
Dale Jr.
Get some glasses.
TJ Majors
The light is glaring.
Dale Jr.
You need some glasses. So Kyle Larson 67 back. William Byron is 72 back.
TJ Majors
There's top six or seven that are still eligible point wise here.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. I have to be honest, I find that really entertaining. I don't know if that says anything.
TJ Majors
Yeah, I mean, I don't.
Dale Jr.
Am I looking? Is it only entertaining because it's nostalgic?
Russell the Professor
Yes.
Dale Jr.
Because it doesn't exist.
Russell the Professor
Correct.
Dale Jr.
Like, if it was the way it was, I wouldn't feel this way.
Russell the Professor
Yeah. Because you're yearning for it. So it's like you.
Dale Jr.
Yeah, but if that was. If somebody came in tomorrow and said, we're adopting this right now, going forward, this is what we're doing, would we all look at. Would we all kind of like it? Not like it. Not care.
Russell the Professor
You would love it.
Dale Jr.
I would love it.
TJ Majors
It might be a little closer. It might be a little closer to. Because we raised differently for play for, you know, stages and you flip stages more and stuff now for playoff points. So it might even be a little closer.
Russell the Professor
Fans like me would not like it.
Dale Jr.
You wouldn't like it?
Russell the Professor
No. Because I didn't grow up with the sport. I didn't grow up with this.
Dale Jr.
You don't like it that Briscoe won the race and now he's within 19 points. Like, that's four spots.
Russell the Professor
I like. I want to tweak the playoffs, but I like the idea of.
Dale Jr.
I mean, if Chase Elliott and him were going into the final race of the year, that's four positions, 19 points.
Russell the Professor
I don't disagree with your feelings about. It's just I didn't grow up with this, so I don't have this nostalgia. I don't miss it.
Dale Jr.
No, I get it. So either way, you're like, whatever. One or the other doesn't Matter to me.
Russell the Professor
I want the playoffs tweaked. But. Yeah, but if they went to this, I wouldn't be against it.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. In my mind, if you have a 36 race final round, you're literally starting the playoffs at Daytona. That's the way I think about it.
Russell the Professor
So how I look at it though is your, your fans are going to watch like no matter if chases win that a chance to win or not, the Chase fans are going to be there all the.
Dale Jr.
I don't agree with that.
Russell the Professor
So you think so if Chase isn't going to race for the championship. He's not. Their fans aren't going to watch.
Dale Jr.
No, no. I don't think we quantify fans off of like they're not comp. They're not compartmentalized into drivers. Like, you have people that love baseball, you have people that love racing. They love sports. They watch sports. They like a guy, they got a guy out there playing, but they still watch no matter what they're watching because they love the sport.
Russell the Professor
Okay, that's. So that's what I was basically saying is they're going to be watching. But how do you pull in the casual fan that is going to be flipped around looking for something and a 36 race format? I don't think that's why the playoff and the cutoffs, I don't think the.
Dale Jr.
Casual fan knows when they're tuning in.
TJ Majors
Yeah, I don't think that matters.
Russell the Professor
That might be.
Dale Jr.
I don't think your casual fan goes, I'm casual, you know, I'm going to skip the regular season. I'm tuning in during the playoffs. They're not casual at that point anymore, are they?
Russell the Professor
Now that you say that, I agree with you that if a fan turns.
Dale Jr.
On maybe the problem is we're allowing them to be calculative. Like, you know what, I'll skip this week. It's only the round one of the playoffs. I'll wait till they get to the final round.
Russell the Professor
You know, now that you say that I, I take back because I don't think a casual is going to be flipped around go, oh, Bristol, it's a cutoff race. So now like I'm, I take back what I said because.
Dale Jr.
And don't you think that it, you know, it allows you to like say, yeah, I might, I might, I might, I might be less likely to tune in in the first round of the playoffs because it's the first round and I don't know, nothing's really going to be decided tonight.
TJ Majors
I don't think it matters. I Think if you're a race fan, you're tuning in no matter.
Dale Jr.
Oh, the hardcore is for sure.
Russell the Professor
Yeah. But no, I. Now you said like I think if a casual fan is going to turn on their turn, they were going to turn on anyways. It's not like they're going to know what was at stake.
Dale Jr.
I didn't really want to get into this conversation today but I think what I'm missing and what I believe has more value than people realize is so we'd be racing along, right? We'd go to Charlotte in October. There's probably 10 races left. Eight, 10 races left in the season, right. Dad's right in the thick of the battle, right? Say he's 40 points behind Rusty Wallace or Mark Martin or somebody, right? And we go to Charlotte and 13 laps into the race broke a cam and run last. That was a gut punch equal to missing the final four. You would. You're sitting there in the regular season that we know today. But in a 36 race playoff you've broke a cam, finished last at Charlotte and lost 150 points. That's a big freaking blow.
TJ Majors
That's a lot.
Dale Jr.
Or say he's 40 points behind Mark Martin and Martin. Mark Martin blows the damn motor and dad runs and goes, wins the race.
TJ Majors
New point leader.
Dale Jr.
That, that kind of thing being that impactful in the middle of the season or even at the front of the season, right. That is missing now, right? Your driver goes to, you know, your driver goes to Daytona in the final race of the regular season and flips out and crashes. It's meh. Just is what it is. He's in the playoffs. We start the playoffs next week. So reset.
TJ Majors
Reset.
Dale Jr.
No big deal. Run 36. I don't. It's no big deal. Let me ask you this. So Ohio State, right? Is a Ohio State. They lose the sixth game of the season in a season, you know they can't lose games, right? What if they up and lost that sixth game the season? Think about the emotional roller coaster that you go on at that point of the year.
Russell the Professor
It used to be that way. Yeah. It's that one loss is like soul crushing.
Dale Jr.
Oh yeah. So that's what is gone. And those things had you plug in at race 18, 16, 20. Because that soul crushing moment was always around the corner or the opposite of soul crushing, right. That allay that moment of holy man. We have just. We've just busted out and got a hundred point lead today because this guy had bad luck. That moment was always possible in the regular season. So you were there to see it because you knew it could. You knew you needed to watch.
Russell the Professor
I mean, it's a good comparison because as they expand the playoffs, losses don't.
Dale Jr.
Losses have. They don't hurt as much. Right.
Russell the Professor
Yeah.
Dale Jr.
Would you say?
TJ Majors
And so once you get a win, you relax a little bit. You don't have that.
Dale Jr.
I know that too. I'm just saying, like, I'm not talking about drivers, industry mechanics, not their feeling. I'm talking about the fan that's wanting to tune in and watch this race. I miss wondering how that race 10 blown motor or you know, whatever that moment, that thing that was going to really twist up the point system and create like, you know, create this, you know, hill that had to be climbed to get back into it.
Russell the Professor
And fans are still going to get excitement from the races because the drivers are still like, even if you're out.
TJ Majors
Of it, you're still racing.
Russell the Professor
Still racing for the win.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. Chase Elliott, you know, at race 10, you know, has a problem, gets crashed early or something and loses his points lead. And now he's a hundred points out of the points lead. Well, I'm going to tune in the next week to see if he can claw back and get some of those back. He's got to get those hundred points back over the next several weeks. We got to get back in this points battle. You know, that kind of stuff there is gone.
Russell the Professor
You're pulling me closer to the 36 race.
Dale Jr.
That's. Well, those are the things that I think the, those are the things that I think that we're going to need. We're going to need some help with to determine. We need some smart people that could predict how the emotional roller coaster really affects fan engagement, long term growth and people tuning in. Right. Trying to have eliminations and game seven moments are beneficial, but at a detriment to other things that are now gone that we don't enjoy anymore or don't have anymore. And so the other things that would keep us hanging around, right, luring us in every single week wondering what we might experience. Anyways, we got deep into that, guys.
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Dale Jr.
Let's talk about the cup race. I said it, y'. All, Brisco, they are here. It's their time, man. We just had him on the show last week.
Russell the Professor
Do you want your flower? Like, do you want us to give around?
Dale Jr.
I think y' all also agreed.
Russell the Professor
I didn't.
TJ Majors
I think I might have said Briscoe because of that car's fast there. And you.
Russell the Professor
T.J. tims had Briscoe. Russ and I did not have Briscoe.
Dale Jr.
Yeah, I. I feel like that this is a, you know, we're sitting here talking to Briscoe last week, and I'm like, man, you hit. You kind of got things started clicking at Charlotte qualifying, good racing, good win at Pocono. Starting to run up front. Starting to be competitive. And Briscoe's a little different in the playoffs. And he said, man, I love pressure. So we talked about pressure. We talked about why he loves pressure. And he just won his second Southern 500 in a row. One of the hardest races to win in the year.
Russell the Professor
Two different manufacturers.
Dale Jr.
Yeah, dude, he is dangerous. I'd be a little concerned if I was the competition. I'd be looking at him going, he's got to be one of the guys I need to worry about.
Russell the Professor
Yeah. Now he's. And he's figured out this Toyota car, like, I think early in the year took him. James Small, I think, is the right crew chief for him. Fiery Guy.
Dale Jr.
Yeah, yeah. I don't know if he can win it all. I'm not ready to say he's got a chance to go win the championship, but he's going to ruin. And I think I said this, he's going to ruin someone else's. He's going to ruin another sure contender.
TJ Majors
He already has right now.
Dale Jr.
Who.
TJ Majors
I'm just saying Chase is like the way he's performing right now and this is.
Dale Jr.
But I mean if there's a, if there's a final four that you feel like are four locks, he's going to.
Russell the Professor
Knock out a head boot. Somebody out like Larson's going to miss her Danny or someone that. We wouldn't expect it.
Dale Jr.
Yeah, yeah, I see that too.
TJ Majors
He's competed for a championship in every series and trucks. He was. He wins Homestead got knocked out because of a motor issue at Talladega. Bless you. And his finity Woody win eight races that year.
Dale Jr.
So he won. He was the first driver to lead 300 plus laps in the Southern 500 since Bobby Allison in 1971.
TJ Majors
It's a long time.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. Henrik motorsport struggled. Chase Elliot 17th, Larson 19th, Byron 21st, Bowman 31st. I don't expect to see that to happen next week. You know why? Rick Hendrick has an unique ability to call everybody in on the carpet and ask for things to get better. And they always get better.
Russell the Professor
What was it like after a bad weekend for Hendrick as a team?
Dale Jr.
Imagine, you know, any kind of organization that just expects to win, expects to be badass, expects to succeed. Imagine going into that Monday morning meeting, right, and the whole place getting together and you're just all like, what the f. Right. What are we doing? On top of that, you put the big boss man in the room and ain't nobody talking. It's quiet. And he's probably going to say the first words in the meeting and he's probably going to say the last words in the meeting. And at some point he's going to tell everybody to figure it out. And he's gonna, he's gonna say there'll be department heads in there. He'll challenge the engine shop, he'll challenge everybody to make a gain. And he'll have his information, he'll have his facts, he'll be able to back it up. And he just has a way of making everybody go grab a little bit more gear, go dig a little bit harder. When you think that there's nothing else to find, there's not another 2 or 5% to learn, they go and get it Nobody stays on top forever. And even the best teams will have really, really rough days. But I've been in that room after a race like that, and Rick will. Rick will say what he has to say, and it'll be. It'll be. It'll influence you to want to go out there and make sure that you're not the weak link, you know, and you're not the reason why it doesn't succeed the next race.
Russell the Professor
Does he get louder? She just very stern to love him.
Dale Jr.
He's super calm, but it's like. It's not. He doesn't get loud. He doesn't raise his voice at all. But it is a very serious, serious. I'm disappointed. And I'm not, you know, I'm not. I'm not here to be a loser or failure. That's not what we're about. And it. It's pretty impactful.
TJ Majors
It's crazy that he can do it without the way that he does, without the yelling and without the. Like, he. He can get more out of people in a unique way.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. Josh Berry is in a tough spot. Wrecked on the first lap of the race. Car bottomed out really bad in the real bad.
TJ Majors
I saw it weird. There was a lot of bottoming out in the beginning of practice.
Dale Jr.
The first quarter was really.
TJ Majors
It hit really hard.
Dale Jr.
Well, that. That cost him a great finish. But, dude, I mean, when I. When I look at this, nobody's in big trouble, you know, Barry Bowman at minus 19. You can't have another bad race. Then it's over. But I think, you know, if you could. If you're Bowman or Barry and you come out of St. Louis at minus 10 or better, how are you feeling?
TJ Majors
I mean, you're. I don't know if that's enough still. I mean, you're feeling okay. Like, you still gotta. You still gotta feel like you're in the game.
Dale Jr.
All you're trying to do is give yourself a shot.
TJ Majors
Yes.
Dale Jr.
I. I don't see how Bowman or Barry looking at the, you know, svg, looking at the rest of these guys, man.
TJ Majors
I mean, but you got to. You got to think about, like, this. To me, you're not making.
Dale Jr.
You're not talking about making gains on the field. You're talking about making gains on the top 12.
TJ Majors
But you're talking about, like, Joey's probably going to. Joey's going to probably bump svg because Joey. I mean.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. And then Joey's taking a spot.
Russell the Professor
SVG is bumpable. But then after. That's what I mean. Yeah.
Dale Jr.
Like you're not.
TJ Majors
Pretty tough challenge.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. These are the. These guys are going to have to have problems, but you have Basically Chastain at +21 is pretty comfortable, right? Pretty.
TJ Majors
He had a quietly good night.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. So, I mean, from eighth on forward, I think barring any massive issue, they're cruising through this round.
TJ Majors
I go to ninth because Cedric won at Gateway last year.
Dale Jr.
Cindrick. I think Bell's good enough at +11 to not have to be concerned. Chase Elliott's consistent enough at place at +9. So I mean, Cedric and SVG, who we. But we all were talking about might miss the. You know, might miss the next round. Those are the only two guys that I see any of these four down here. Lugano, Dylan Bowman, Barry. I only see two guys, two spots available.
TJ Majors
Yeah, I only see one really, but.
Dale Jr.
Really?
TJ Majors
Yeah, I don't see them making up the. On the other. Unless someone has.
Dale Jr.
Could have a rough day. He shows up sometimes in a run 12. He'll show up some other times around 28.
TJ Majors
Those Penske cars were real strong last year. I hear you and it's just.
Dale Jr.
Look, I'm. I'm. I want to believe you.
TJ Majors
I just.
Dale Jr.
I just haven't seen enough over the course of the last, you know, several years to really know Cindrick's going to be a lock.
TJ Majors
I don't think he's a lot. I think he's got a good enough buffer here. To me, yeah, he's 21 or 12 points.
Dale Jr.
What if Logano outpoint is Cindric and then someone else out pointed svg?
TJ Majors
I mean, that could happen too. But with their from the same stable though, I don't see them. I don't see the gaps in points being that big.
Dale Jr.
Okay. It's only 15.
TJ Majors
I mean, that's.
Dale Jr.
Can Legano out point Cedric 15 points.
Russell the Professor
In the next pointing. Logano could go out there and can win.
TJ Majors
Okay, but Cedric out point of the Gano all night at Darlington.
Russell the Professor
Logano in the playoffs. You can never.
TJ Majors
That's what I'm saying. This system. Joey is a thriver in this system.
Dale Jr.
Well, we'll see.
TJ Majors
I mean, I look at SVG give up too many points right there. Do you agree?
Russell the Professor
Yes.
TJ Majors
I mean, we said he needed to come out of there with what, like 15 or something? Like a. Yeah, that was. That was a pretty rough. No, that was a rough.
Dale Jr.
Did we do a final four?
Russell the Professor
No, we just. We're doing round by round.
Dale Jr.
Yeah, I know. You feeling like you want to name a few?
TJ Majors
We could go for it worse. That Happens we miss.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. Who's you for? You've been thinking about it? No.
TJ Majors
Oh, he's only thinks about one. Danny.
Dale Jr.
I think Danny makes it.
TJ Majors
I do, too. He just. He's been. He's just consistent enough.
Dale Jr.
Does Briscoe upset? I think Briscoe might. No, no. What are the final. What's the second? What's the round? Martinsville. What is it?
Russell the Professor
Talladega, Vegas, Talladega, Martinsville.
Dale Jr.
Vegas, Talladega, Martinsville.
TJ Majors
Yeah, I mean, Vegas is one of Joey's best tracks, but last year he had to get.
Dale Jr.
Joey ain't gonna make it. That I'm. I'm not saying no. Joey to go. Any one of these mugs can make.
TJ Majors
It, but you just ruined it.
Dale Jr.
No, I'm a go. Briscoe. I gosh, I think Briscoe could do it. Briscoe.
TJ Majors
I've got three.
Dale Jr.
I just need a Byron Blaney. Danny Briscoe, Byron Blaney.
Russell the Professor
I like those picks.
Dale Jr.
And I feel like as much as I want to think that Blaney wins the championship between those four at Phoenix, I just feel like Byron does. I don't know why. I don't have any reason to think that. Honestly. Feel like Blaney wins it, but I keep picking Blaney every year. All right, before we move on, the Earnhardt family has relied on Bass Pro for our outdoor adventures. And that tradition continues with me today. I grew up shopping there, and now it's a place I love sharing with my own family, gearing up together for everything from weekend getaways to fishing out in the pond. I'm also incredibly grateful for the support that Johnny Morrison, the entire Bass Pro team, have shown across our business ventures. From the race team here, Dirty Mo Media, they believe in what we're building, and they've stood behind us every step of the way. They aren't just great partners, they're also great people. Be sure to check out all that they have to offer. No matter if you're going fishing, camping or hunting, you'll find everything you need at your nearest Bass Pro Shop store. You can also shop online. Check them out@bass pro.com bundle and safe. With Expedia, you are made to follow your favorite band. And from the front row, we were made to quietly save you. More Expedia Made to Travel savings vary and subject to availability. Flight inclusive packages are atoll protected. All right. Hey, everybody, it's Ask Junior. Another segment on the Dirty Air show this Tuesday. Having a lot of fun here, talking Xfinity cup and everything that's going on in our sport of nascar. This segment is brought to you by the booming speeds that you'll experience with Xfinity WI Fi. It's like the roar of a NASCAR engine on race day. XFINITY WI fi gives you the power and the speed of NASCAR in your home. Choose the right plan for you and you're off to the races with the best streaming experience for NASCAR or any of your favorite sports. We got NFL coming up this weekend. College football is underway. I'm about to place a bet right here. Nine leg parlay. Let's go.
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TJ Majors
Yeah.
Travis Tims
This first question is actually from a lot of people. They want to know how did the cars tour race go in Florence on Friday?
Dale Jr.
It went pretty rough for me. The series had a great night. The we had a great car count. We had pretty exciting race I think for the most part in the Keelan Harvick won the pro race which was cool and they had bandos and legends there. Kyle Busch was there with Braxton racing those so I mean for a fan it was probably cool night to be able to see some of the things that were going on at Florence. And I qualified 13th, which I was pretty happy with.
TJ Majors
Dang, it's a step up.
Russell the Professor
Let's go.
Dale Jr.
That's right. My car was really, really good in practice. We bolted on multiple sets of tires. That, that felt great. When the race started I didn't have any rear drive and I knew I was going to be in trouble but I thought maybe I could manage it and hopefully everybody else was experiencing the same thing. But I ended up burning the rear tires off of it and think we finished 18th but we were lost about five or six spots during the last 20 laps. It was, it was brutal and I got the left re quarter pound knocked off of it because I was trying to keep all them young lines behind me but my radio quit working.
TJ Majors
Oh yeah.
Dale Jr.
So not an excuse but when I race I'm the second car, right. So we're using like the B team on the radios. The radios themselves aren't all that great and so this one radio that I was using for the race, the connection and where the plug plugged into the radio itself was a bit faulty and it quit working in practice but I thought I'd fixed it. I'm out there running in the race and this is a multi groove track and I've got guys on both sides trying to get, you know, trying to run the top and trying to run low. And, like, lap 30, the radio just stopped. Like, I couldn't hear my spotter or nobody. And I didn't have a radio for about 50 laps. And so I ran one guy right off the racetrack. His name's Galinsky. I know he was pretty upset, but I really had no idea where he was at. Yeah, you know, but I knew he was somewhere trying to get to the outside, but I didn't know if he was there, and I didn't want to give up the spot if I didn't have to, but I wasn't really sure. And I ran over the right front of a couple guys getting down into turn three. Just. I knew they were trying to get underneath me, and I was just trying my hardest to keep them back here, but I didn't really have a spotter to tell me how. How inside were they? That's is fun. Had a good time. Race again in October and probably run a couple more next year. We'll just go. We're just gonna see how it goes.
Travis Tims
So are the mirrors not super reliable?
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
TJ Majors
Need a camera now, the mirrors.
Dale Jr.
The mirrors are reliable. They are, but, I mean, you know, it's a. It's a really short track. You're not really ever straight on the straightaway. You're small. You got a guy trying to get you outside, a guy trying to look underneath you. And, like, you got. Which mirror do you look at? You got two mirrors. You really. You're driving the. Out of this thing. Right. So I was just like, hey, you know, I'm just going to run my line and try my best not to. Not to make too big of a mistake. But it was fun. Had a good time. Tour has three races left before the end of the year. Closing in on the. You know, we got South Boston coming up in a couple weeks, and. And then there's Tri county, and then Wilkesboro is the final race of the year. And so.
TJ Majors
Crowd would look good.
Dale Jr.
Crowd was decent. Yeah, I would say it was. It was decent.
TJ Majors
It was really. I thought it was pretty good.
Dale Jr.
It was about half of what we had there for the. For the South Carolina 400, but still pretty decent.
Travis Tims
It's awesome.
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
Travis Tims
I went to the Wilkesboro championship race last year, and it was a good time.
Dale Jr.
Good. Yeah. I'm gonna try to go watch that one. I won't be able to get to South Boston, I don't believe, but, yeah. Looking forward to Track County. I'M gonna slip over there on a Wednesday or something and go test my car a little bit and see if I can't get something comfortable and try to have some fun on this last race of the year for me.
Travis Tims
Awesome. Well, go support our friend Brandon Brown, too, at South Boston.
Dale Jr.
Yes. He's a good dude. He's a general manager over there.
Travis Tims
Yes.
Dale Jr.
Good.
Travis Tims
Next question is from Kyle. They saw you retweeted Ryan McGee. He had a poll out on Twitter which was basically asking, like, what's the most appropriate way to play music at the beach?
Dale Jr.
Yes.
Travis Tims
And they wanted to know what was your vote on his poll? Like, what do you think is the most appropriate?
Dale Jr.
What were the options here?
Travis Tims
I'm pulling it up. The options were, where are y' all with people's Bluetooth speakers on the beach? Doesn't bother me. Reasonable volume is okay.
Dale Jr.
Reasonable volume is okay. Reasonable volume is okay. It's ridiculous. I looked in the comments, and there were people saying, hell, no, keep it turned off. It's like, who the hell are you to tell anybody that wants to go out on the beach? You're gonna tote all that shit out there, all the stuff for the kids, the balloon, you know, the umbrella and the chairs and everything else. Can't turn on a Bluetooth speaker. Come on. Everybody can turn on their speaker. I can get. Do you know, you. Even the people. I think the people that are saying, turn it off. Don't play your Bluetooth speaker on the beach. Don't even go to the beach. You can go to the beach, right? Turn on your speaker, walk 10ft away and not hear it.
TJ Majors
Yeah, I agree.
Dale Jr.
Because waves, waves, wind, kids, whatever. It's like it don't even. I mean. And you're. You know, I don't know.
TJ Majors
I'm sure there's the people that are.
Dale Jr.
Saying, turn it off, or just a bunch of grouches. I don't know about that. I'm playing the music, and I will be respectful. I'll keep it turned down. I. You know, you don't need to be blaring music on the beach. Right. You just need a little song here playing, you know, keep you in the mood.
TJ Majors
I think, like you said, it'd be. It'd be hard to be disrespectful beach.
Dale Jr.
And not hear music. Not.
Russell the Professor
I mean, what are you doing?
Dale Jr.
Yeah, what are you doing?
TJ Majors
You'd have to really turn it way up or have one of them huge speakers that really annoy people.
Dale Jr.
Well, I mean, some people do. I've been to the beach. And I've, I mean, I'll. My, my, my preference is to have it. No, my preference is to be like 20ft from people or more. Right. So like having a little bit of room.
TJ Majors
Right?
Dale Jr.
Yeah. And if I can hear your speaker from that distance, it's, it's, it's a little getting there.
Travis Tims
Little loud.
Russell the Professor
Reasonable volume, reasonable distance.
Dale Jr.
But the thing is, is like you might, I might, I might hear your speaker. As soon as I turn mine on, I can't hear yours.
TJ Majors
Yeah.
Dale Jr.
Once you. What's the deal? Just let people play their music two, three seats away.
TJ Majors
It's hard to hear anyway with your own.
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
TJ Majors
Most time. Right.
Travis Tims
Living, let live.
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
Travis Tims
Someone, eric, in the YouTube chat in all caps said, get off my lawn.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. Yeah.
Russell the Professor
Get off my beach.
Dale Jr.
You know, the. McGee is the one always talking about the guy with the leaf blower in his neighborhood. Oh, he. So he's very sensitive.
Travis Tims
I don't know about this.
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
Russell the Professor
Oh, he has a hatred for the.
Dale Jr.
Leaf blowers Every, every other day. Especially this, this time of year. Right. We're coming into that time of year, all leaves are gonna be going down. And get ready. Cause you're gonna see McGee every other day posting a video of just staring out his window into the neighborhood and this, you know, this, this leaf blower and he's gonna start cussing leaf blowers.
Russell the Professor
So I have a question though. So it's a little different for you because where you live you don't deal with it. But what time is too early to be like mowing your lawn or leaf blowing?
Dale Jr.
Well, where I was last night, somebody was having a little target practice. Yeah. And you know, it's, you're out in the country, you're like, I, you know, people doing a little target practice. Amy will come in. Golly, man. Who's shooting? I'm like, well, we're in the country, so I mean, they're shooting sometimes.
TJ Majors
Maybe they saw a coyote.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, maybe they're getting that coyote.
Russell the Professor
Like I've seen people mow at 7am like that's in like a residential area. Like that's a tad early.
TJ Majors
I think close to 8.
Dale Jr.
I don't think you should be doing anything that's going to wake people up before 8:00'. Clock.
Travis Tims
Yeah, I think that's fair.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. So I mean, you know, if you're, if you're outside moving before 8 o', clock, you shouldn't be making enough noise. It will get the attention of the neighbor.
Russell the Professor
I'm with you, lance.
Travis Tims
In the YouTube chat said never before 8am yeah.
Dale Jr.
So there you go.
Travis Tims
That's probably the rule.
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
Travis Tims
And probably watch your music at the beach before that time too.
TJ Majors
Do you want to drive over to McGee's and with Leaf blowers and just stand outside?
Travis Tims
I want to know where he lives now.
TJ Majors
Let's just go over there, start blowing leaves.
Travis Tims
Is he like, that's my ring.
Dale Jr.
That's my ringtone for when he calls.
Travis Tims
But like, what's the alternative? Sometimes you just need to get a leaf blower out.
Dale Jr.
I guess that I probably, if I was him and I lived in town because he lives in like dense neighborhood. Every other day, some. Some neighbor is like, go out and blow my leafs this morning. And they can't all just have like a unified day. Like Thursday's the day. Nope, every other day. Like this guy over here, this guy over here, this guy over here. So this probably is annoying, but is.
TJ Majors
There that many in a dense neighborhood?
Dale Jr.
I'll be honest. Like, I would probably not even notice it.
TJ Majors
Yeah, I wouldn't either.
Travis Tims
Dense neighborhood. And I.
Dale Jr.
It's never crossed my mind somebody might go, man the leaf blower. And I'd go, oh, I didn't even notice. You know, I've got so used to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Travis Tims
God bless McGee. Okay, this next question is from James on Twitter. What did you think of Lee Diffie calling Carson Hosvar the Hurricane as his nickname? And what's the best nickname out there right now for the active drivers?
Russell the Professor
We're former drivers.
Dale Jr.
Yeah, I think that's fine. I. So I like that. Because nicknames should come from someone else. Yeah.
Travis Tims
Oh, yeah.
TJ Majors
Oh, absolutely.
Dale Jr.
You're not allowed to give yourself a nickname. No, you're not allowed. You can't self appoint a nickname. And so that's the perfect way to get one for Carson. Right. Is by getting it from the play by play guy. Perfect. Right. So I'm all in on that. Some of the best nicknames. I like the nicknames that have a little bit of a humor. Humorous humor to them and they may be a little deprecating to the driver. So when Kerry, he's my brother. Love him to death. When he started racing at Hickory, he bounced off of a lot of. So his nickname for a short period of time was ricocheted. You know, I think that's awesome. Yeah, right. You know, people. Ricky Stenhouse Jr. Awesome guy. Love him to death. I'd say we're great friends. People call him Ricky. Yeah, Ricky Stenhouse. Right. I think it's hilarious. Yeah, those are my favorite type of nicknames, honestly. But what are some other ones in the similar.
Travis Tims
Like Bowman the Showman. Sliced bread for Logano.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. Bowman the Showman is okay. Boy, that Jones boy. Yeah.
Travis Tims
I think silly like if I'm Eric Jones, I think that's badass because Ken Squire gave it.
Dale Jr.
I agree. Hunter. Yep. You got me there. Yeah. Yep.
Travis Tims
I don't know. I think Hurricane Josevar the Hurricane. Especially how he just barrels through everything is fine. Pretty darn good.
Dale Jr.
It's good.
Russell the Professor
Rowdy. We like that.
Travis Tims
Oh, Rowdy's good.
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
Travis Tims
Rowdy's classic.
Dale Jr.
Was that self appointed?
TJ Majors
I think I feel like it was because I feel like he put it on a scheme that he had.
Travis Tims
Yours was just like June Bug. Yeah.
Dale Jr.
I don't know. Darrell Watt used to call me that. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know that I had.
Travis Tims
A nickname I didn't like. I couldn't really think of anything that came to mind outside of that. Junior.
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
Travis Tims
But that's also kind of my name. Your name?
Dale Jr.
Not really my name swerving for Ernie Irving. Swerving. Irvin. Perfect.
Travis Tims
Oh, that's good.
Dale Jr.
Perfect.
Travis Tims
Iceman. Terry Labani.
TJ Majors
That was good.
Dale Jr.
Rusty was Rubberhead or Rubber Neck or something like that. Rubberhead.
Travis Tims
T.J. do you have a nickname?
TJ Majors
I didn't have a nickname.
Travis Tims
Should we give you one?
Dale Jr.
Let's ask.
TJ Majors
No, I actually will just call me the General.
Dale Jr.
But yeah.
Travis Tims
General.
Dale Jr.
We call him the General because he thinks he knows everything. Is that it? Tj? No, that's not it.
TJ Majors
I mean, maybe I don't know. So he doesn't know somebody needed. Never wrong what to do. That's. That. That is accurate.
Dale Jr.
TJ is the General because he's never wrong.
TJ Majors
That's accurate. Very accurate.
Dale Jr.
That and two, I'll say this. Like TJ is a commissioner for like TJ as a commissioner for like fantasy football or you know, esports, college football league or whatever. That's, you know, he's good at those type of things. Kind of corralling, running, managing job.
TJ Majors
I'm the General.
Dale Jr.
Thank. Yeah. And it's. He gets. That's a bit of the. Where he gets the nickname from. Yeah. We call him the General.
TJ Majors
Somebody's got to make a decision and stick with it.
Russell the Professor
So did we have. We advanced?
TJ Majors
What are you talking about? Oh, yeah. We're winning. We're rolling.
Dale Jr.
Supposed to advance tonight.
TJ Majors
Yeah, we are.
Dale Jr.
My tags on all my stuff is unical. Yeah, my. I love the. I don't know that. You know, I'm apologetically nostalgic as hell. And love the orange and blue unocal 76 colors and all that represents to like historic NASCAR. And when we used to race online before, like, you know, my. My earliest custom schemes were all like number 76, unocal blue and orange. I just thought those are cool colors. And so when I would play any kind of shoot em ups, Battlefield, whatever my call, my gamer tags. Unical.
TJ Majors
Oh, no, mine. I used to go by that. We watched that western one time a long time ago. The Stranger.
Dale Jr.
Oh, yeah, the Stranger.
TJ Majors
Remember from Eastwood?
Dale Jr.
Eastwood.
TJ Majors
Yep.
Dale Jr.
Yep.
TJ Majors
So I would just be the stranger in a lot of things.
Dale Jr.
That's not really a nickname, but that.
TJ Majors
Well, that was mine.
Dale Jr.
A cow's kind of like how people in the gaming.
Russell the Professor
Yeah. They know you by.
TJ Majors
Well, yeah. I don't see anybody walk down, walk into the store and be like, hey, what's up, Unical?
Dale Jr.
Some people call me that.
Russell the Professor
That'd be cool though.
Travis Tims
I'm gonna start calling you this Stranger.
Russell the Professor
Well, I thought that the stranger's here again.
TJ Majors
I thought that movie.
Travis Tims
Yeah, Stranger kept showing up.
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
TJ Majors
I started using it in like Call of Duty and all that Battlefield and st. Least I started using that because I liked that movie was really. I'd never seen that movie until that day and I thought it was badass, so I started using it.
Travis Tims
Well, good. I'm seeing a lot of good nicknames in the YouTube chat as well, if.
Dale Jr.
You want to share them.
TJ Majors
Yeah.
Travis Tims
Skull Bandits.
Dale Jr.
Oh, yeah. The Bandit.
Travis Tims
Fireball.
Dale Jr.
Clyde's a good one.
Travis Tims
Yeah, it's a lot of good ones.
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
Travis Tims
And we have some more good questions.
TJ Majors
What do you think Chase's nickname is?
Dale Jr.
Chase Briscoe.
TJ Majors
What do you think his nickname is?
Travis Tims
Oh, I don't know.
Dale Jr.
Turn Chase on.
Russell the Professor
Yeah, we need to.
Dale Jr.
Why can't we do both?
TJ Majors
We can't roll it because we're not set up for.
Dale Jr.
Hey, fans, you know what?
TJ Majors
Guess who's joining. Yeah, me.
Dale Jr.
Chase Briscoe just called in and we were gonna bring him on into this YouTube live.
Russell the Professor
We can't show.
Dale Jr.
Travis won't allow it.
Travis Tims
We are live on YouTube.
Dale Jr.
We're live on YouTube.
Russell the Professor
We can't show him.
Dale Jr.
Why can't we show him?
Russell the Professor
Because we don't have that set up.
Dale Jr.
So we can hear him. Can't we hear him?
Russell the Professor
And then I need to unmute him.
TJ Majors
Unmute him.
Dale Jr.
Can he talk?
TJ Majors
Jerks. Unmute him.
Russell the Professor
Second here. Does he want to go live? Nod, Chase, if you're okay.
TJ Majors
Yeah, Chase.
Travis Tims
He's giving a thumbs up.
Russell the Professor
Okay, his volume is up.
Travis Tims
What was your name?
TJ Majors
What's your nickname Chase, right off the bat.
Dale Jr.
I don't.
Chase Briscoe
My dad always was Risky Brisky, so sometimes people call me. Yeah, I remember I won a race when I was younger in the newspaper called me Frisky Brisky, but I didn't.
Dale Jr.
Frisky Brisky. Oh, my gosh. That's hilarious. That's good.
Travis Tims
Well, why don't we wrap up as Junior the fans got to hear Chase Briscoe and this is a good, you know, segue to.
TJ Majors
Fans love Frisky Brisky.
Travis Tims
Tune into the full show to hear that. But thanks to Xfinity for this.
Dale Jr.
That's right. Thanks Xfinity for bringing up today's Bringing us today's Ask Junior segment in racing and in live, speed is an optional. It's exciting. Expected. As a driver and Xfinity series owner, I rely on things that perform under pressure. That's why I go to Xfinity. Wi Fi. Fast, reliable Internet with one price locked in for five years. No contracts, no slowdowns, no nonsense. Xfinity, proud premier partner of nascar. Thank you all for your questions today. And yeah, tune in later to hear the full interview with with Chase and everything else we had to say today.
TJ Majors
About Honey, do not make plans.
Dale Jr.
Saturday, September 13th, okay? Why? What's happening? The Walmart Wellness event.
TJ Majors
Flu shots, health screenings, free samples from those brands you like.
Dale Jr.
All that at Walmart.
Russell the Professor
We can just walk right in, no appointment needed.
TJ Majors
Who knew we could cover our health and wellness needs at Walmart?
Dale Jr.
Check the calendar.
Travis Tims
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Dale Jr.
You knew. I knew. Check in on your health at the same place you already shop.
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Dale Jr.
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Dale Jr.
All right. So, Chase, thanks for tuning in, man. Coming off of, do you think that it was a good luck charm that you did the guest segment of the Dale Jr. Download last week?
Chase Briscoe
Yeah, I was going to ask if you wanted me to come in the next nine weeks and knock it out.
Dale Jr.
Yeah, well, hopefully this, just this, just this conversation alone will carry on some good luck. But you're locked in to the next round. So tell me, I mean, you've probably been in this situation before. What is this feeling going into the next couple of races, being able to kind of leap ahead in preparation and put your focus into the next round?
Chase Briscoe
Yeah, I mean, the only real experience I guess I have is in the Xfinity series. I think I was able to win the first race of two rounds. And it definitely changes your outlook, I guess, or your preparation just for the, you know, knowing kind of what the first race is in the next round. You know, like, for, for me, Loudon is something that I'd already told James I wanted to work on kind of in advance just because it's a track I feel like I really struggle at. So we'll probably just put a little more emphasis on Loudon than what we typically would as far as, like, how early we start doing that. But I mean, for us, it's still super important these next two weeks to go and you try to win stages and win the race. I mean, even at Darlington and we went from, you know, 10 playoff points to 17, we basically doubled our playoff points, which is going to be huge for the rounds going forward. So, I mean, that's a huge point of emphasis for us these next two weeks is, you know, let's try to get as many playoff points as we can. That'll help us in these later rounds. And now having the win in the bank, you know, we can definitely, you know, be a little more aggressive on strategy and, you know, we're not point racing like everybody else is, so we can, you know, maybe make a little more, you know, off the wall call.
Dale Jr.
Last this past weekend. Watching the several, you know, the final few laps of that race was really fascinating to me. You know, Redick's car was pretty incredible. He had a little more pace than you. What are you thinking in those final few laps? What are you needing to do to make sure to, you know, make things as difficult as you can on him? What are you concentrating on making sure you do correctly?
Chase Briscoe
It was definitely tough, you know, when that final caution came out, you know, I think it was going to be a 48 lap green flag run. And I knew I was going to be in trouble, truthfully, just because my car, I mean, was phenomenal. For 25 laps, like, I felt like I had three to four tenths on the field a lap. But on the back end of those runs, I was four to five tenths worse than, you know, Redick especially. So I knew when that final run came, if it went green to the end, I was gonna be in a world of hurt. And, yeah, he caught me with, like, 20 to go, and I just had to start changing what I was doing. You know, all night long, he. We'd saw him kind of do that, you know, high entry into turn one, and that was something that I just have never really done there. I've always ran.
Dale Jr.
Honestly, it's the Denny Hamlin line.
Chase Briscoe
Yeah, like, I've always been the opposite. I run almost way lower than everybody into one. That's just how I've always ran that place. And as he got to me, I just had to kind of learn on the fly, you know, what I needed to do to run that upper lane. And my car was so loose. It just was honestly putting me. I felt like really vulnerable spots. But the big key for me was just making sure that I just nailed three and four. I felt like if I would nail three and four, you know, I would typically at least have five to, say, maybe eight car lengths through turns one and two. And I felt like I would lose, you know, four car links almost every single time through turns one and two. So I just had to get through three and four good. And that was my main focus. And I think a lot of it helped me, you know, truthfully, just having all the experience I've had at Darlington and, you know, late race situations, battling for the win there, you know, if there's going to be any place I'm in that situation, you know, Darlington is the best place for me to do that, just because I feel like. I felt like with all the experience I've had in different races there, I've kind of learned what to do and what not to do. And, you know, I felt like I definitely used that those last, you know, 10, 15 laps this past weekend.
Dale Jr.
Well, in the next round, you have New Hampshire Motor Speedway. Do you guys go to St. Louis this weekend trying to kind of learn or compare because of the similarities between the two tracks?
Chase Briscoe
I do think that you can maybe learn a little bit. I mean, it's tough because Loudoun is so much rougher than what St. Louis is. But, you know, if your car turns good at Loudoun or turns good at St. Louis. It should turn, you know, you would think decent at the other ones. So, yeah, I'm sure that there's something, you know, you can learn this weekend. You know, obviously I'm not the setup guy, right.
Dale Jr.
But.
Chase Briscoe
But I do think that as a team, there's got to be something they can learn this week. Week to apply for, you know, two weeks down the road.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. Is there a track in that round with New Hampshire, Kansas and Charlotte, the Roval that. That concerns you?
Chase Briscoe
I mean, Loudon would be the only one that really, like. It doesn't concern me because I know that we're going to be fast still. It's just as a driver, I feel like Loudon is, you know, one of those tracks I've always felt just truthfully, extremely lost. It's always been Sonoma, Richmond and Loudon for me, that are just three tracks that I just, I don't know, like, I can't quite figure them out. But this year, just with the prep work of how, you know, JGR kind of prepares me for the week, you know, honestly, Sonoma, we. I mean, we ran second all day long. It went from being my worst road course to arguably our best this year, and then even Richmond, you know, I was probably a top five car all night. So I know that going to Loudon will be good again, but definitely, I'll just have to put a little more emphasis on, you know, driving techniques and he can try to learn some stuff there. But fortunately for me, my teammates are really, really good there. I mean, Christopher's probably the best guy there is around that place, so I'll have all his stuff to look at and just try to copy it as best I can.
Dale Jr.
Absolutely, man. Well, we appreciate your time today. Congratulations on a win at one of the toughest racetracks to drive in the series. It's gotta be a proud thing for you just personally as a driver to have two wins back to back at Darlington because everybody knows and respects the guys that can go there and win races in this. In this deal. So congratulations. Appreciate you coming on the show and have fun this weekend.
Chase Briscoe
Appreciate you guys having me.
Dale Jr.
Place your bets, ladies and gentlemen, place your bets. All right, it's time for the Dirty Modo here with Tampa. Tim's joining us also is Russell the professor, T.J. travis, Tims, we're all here together. The manufacturing parlay. Let's take a look here. Did anybody get it right?
Russell the Professor
You went two for three.
Dale Jr.
Oh, damn. Well, Almondinger was the best Chevrolet. No one had that Crazy. No, that's crazy. Yeah. All right. Almond nigger screwed up.
TJ Majors
That predictor did not have AJ up there.
Dale Jr.
Where was he on the predictor?
Russell the Professor
He was higher up than he usually is, but he was not. He was not the best Chevrolet by far.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. Maybe we shouldn't look at the predictor point blank.
Russell the Professor
You didn't go with the predictor last week, so.
Dale Jr.
Well, what I'm thinking is maybe we should know. Maybe we should identify when the predictor says, this guy's a little higher than usual.
TJ Majors
Okay.
Dale Jr.
Maybe we should take a little note. Yeah.
Russell the Professor
Yeah, but he wasn't like.
Dale Jr.
I don't know. I get it. No, he shouldn't be. He's never going to be way up there. No predictor is going to put him in the top three. But if the predictor said, you know what? AJ's about five spots better this week, you're right.
TJ Majors
He should have been a long shot.
Dale Jr.
We should have. We should have all. If I had the predictor in front of me or if one of us, maybe we would have noticed, but we only got one guy looking at it.
TJ Majors
Can you not share one set up?
Dale Jr.
Share your screen.
TJ Majors
Yeah, Share your screen. Russell, we gotta have some stuff.
Dale Jr.
All right. Yeah. Or you really have to share your screen. I don't think I want to know what's on that screen. It's just a picture of his Emmy.
TJ Majors
Probably a Bowman back. His backdrop is Bowman.
Dale Jr.
Oh, can always see his Emmy. He's got his Emmy tiled across the screen.
TJ Majors
Actually, he's got Alex Bowman holding the Emmy.
Dale Jr.
All right, well, the betting favorites for this week at St. Louis, Blaney plus 400.
TJ Majors
Yeah.
Dale Jr.
Wow. Bell at plus 500. Hamlin, Larson, and Legato at 950. Man, I don't know.
Russell the Professor
For the record, Hamlin is 650, Larson's 850.
Dale Jr.
Glad you got that in.
Russell the Professor
Well, the way you said it, you grouped them together.
TJ Majors
Steady bros. Yeah. Hey, hall of Famer.
Dale Jr.
Let's. Let's see what. Let's see what Russell thinks about the favorites for this particular weekend.
Russell the Professor
I don't. I don't disagree. I like Bell as well.
TJ Majors
I rhyme.
Russell the Professor
But Logano is got to be the overall favorite. He's been top five in all of these. He's won here. He's been good in Xfinity here. So I. I think the. The Logano one is the overall favorite, and it's a Penske track. They won two to the two of the three here. I like Cindric as well. Cindric's way higher on the predictor than he usually is. You want to look at that?
TJ Majors
There it is. Thank you.
Dale Jr.
There we go. So he's been. He's gonna.
Russell the Professor
He's been first, 13th, and 11th here. So, like, that's. This is a great track for him.
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
TJ Majors
According to him, he's gonna lose some points this weekend.
Dale Jr.
We'll see.
Russell the Professor
And then I also like Josevar as a sleeper. Tim's Cendrick is 1600.
Dale Jr.
I don't love that.
TJ Majors
But, I mean, this is a Penske track. They're so good at these types of tracks. Of this group, I actually like Logano, even though he's plus 950, which isn't great. I. I think he's. So he wants out. Won the first year, right? Yeah. And then where. Where did he finish the next two?
Russell the Professor
It was like third and fifth.
TJ Majors
Russ, what about Tyler Redick?
Russell the Professor
He was fourth last year and then struggled the two before that. But I would say he's mid pack, like, on these types of tracks. I have a mid pack as well.
TJ Majors
I like Larson here. Just so you know, Larson tested here, so I feel like. I feel like he's going to come with some heat here.
Russell the Professor
How important is that to. To test there?
TJ Majors
I just think anytime you get a test any, he's going to go back, and his first laps on the track are probably going to be a little crisper and a little, you know, cleaner than the other guys. Haven't been there in a year. So I feel. I don't know, I just feel like he's due for a rebound, and I think. I just think he's going to be strong.
Russell the Professor
Yeah. Overall, this is not a good track for Hendrick, though. I'm surprised Travis didn't tell us about Denny.
Dale Jr.
Denny's good.
Russell the Professor
I mean, he does have two top fives, not two top times. He was runner up the last two years.
Dale Jr.
And then the other one was his.
Russell the Professor
His fiasco with Chastain, with.
TJ Majors
With Ross. Yeah.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. What makes you think Bell's going to be so good?
Russell the Professor
Just these kind of tracks he runs.
Dale Jr.
Well at, he's kind of been quiet.
TJ Majors
I think you're forgetting Briscoe again.
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
TJ Majors
Briscoe did sit on the pole here and lead a bunch to his left rear, blue. So I think Briscoe goes back with a. I just think they're hitting their stride, too. They got a lot of confidence in each other. Briscoe's got a lot of confidence in qualifying. Just one race. I think, you know, if I had to pick three, it'd be Blaney, Briscoe and Larson would be my three.
Dale Jr.
Who's the best Chevrolet?
TJ Majors
I would go Larson.
Russell the Professor
It's Larson or Byron for me.
TJ Majors
Byron was a little bit off at Darlington, though, but it kind of concerned me a little bit because he's been strong there.
Russell the Professor
They. I think Rudy was like, they just missed it.
TJ Majors
Yeah. Yeah.
Dale Jr.
The Chevrolet thing just seems a little murkier. It's kind of like become what the Ford usually is. You know how hard it is to fit to pick up the best Ford. That's just Chevrolet. Just like, God, that's crazy about NASCAR is like every single week, the storylines turn upside down.
TJ Majors
The problem is if Hendrick lays an egg like they did Darlington, it's. And it could be anybody.
Dale Jr.
I know. It could be Austin Dillon.
TJ Majors
Yeah, exactly. You know, Josevar host. I mean, I honestly think Josevar could. Could be the. Have a shot of being the top Chevy this week. That's. He just. He adapts to that track really well. When he ran that. Which car did he run there? A few years ago, he ran the.
Russell the Professor
Spire car when Corey Lajoy got the.
TJ Majors
Chance in the nine and he ran like top 15, 16, like all day in it, which I thought was very impressive.
Russell the Professor
Then he had break problems and then he finished top 10 last year.
TJ Majors
Yep. I think he'll qualify well and that'll give him good pit saw pick. He'll have some confidence and I think he could race as well. Very good as well. But I got Blaney, Briscoe and Larson as my three.
Dale Jr.
I'm gonna go with Bell, Logano, Larson. Bell, Logano, Larson. I'm going.
Russell the Professor
Blaney, Larson, Hamlin.
Dale Jr.
I'm with you. Russ. I'm going.
TJ Majors
I'm going. Danny, bro this week. Denny, Logano, Larson.
Russell the Professor
I'm with Tim's on this one.
TJ Majors
The boots in the same page also.
Russell the Professor
Before we end the segment. TJ Tims, you had your moment last week. What? Texas. Do you seem pretty quiet.
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
TJ Majors
They bad game. Yeah. Are you really? I mean, you should have won by way more. Just so you know, if you went.
Russell the Professor
By an inch or a mile, it still counts as the same win.
TJ Majors
Not. I mean, not in college football.
Russell the Professor
The. It doesn't.
TJ Majors
If you win by a mile, you get definitely a lot more votes and you look better in the rankings and you like it matters.
Russell the Professor
What's better in the rankings? Iowa State. If they're undefeated, it's going to be number one. Doesn't matter.
TJ Majors
But if they lose, they doesn't college football.
Russell the Professor
If we lose, we won.
TJ Majors
Don't they take into account how Big of victories are and stuff like the point spreads and stuff.
Russell the Professor
If Ohio State goes undefeated, they're going to be just fine with the rankings.
TJ Majors
I'm worried about them going undefeated with barely winning over that sidearm. Uncle Rico over Texas.
Dale Jr.
Get out of here.
Russell the Professor
You got to play Penn State too.
TJ Majors
But just, just.
Russell the Professor
Yeah, I'm really worried about James Franklin.
TJ Majors
Listen to him. I mean he is. He is.
Russell the Professor
He'll be worried about James.
TJ Majors
Yeah. Annoying Travis. Ohio State. Travis is back.
Dale Jr.
That's true.
TJ Majors
Can we just put the screenshot of his face in that game up on tv?
Dale Jr.
Which one?
TJ Majors
It's multiple. Yeah.
Dale Jr.
I had a bunch of parlays put up and Boise State and Alabama ruined them.
TJ Majors
Oh, Alabama probably ruined a lot of them.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. This week on FanDuel there's a no sweat bet on the Cowboys Eagles game. Also a 50% profit boost on the same game. Might have to get into that.
TJ Majors
Yeah, it's like eight and a half percent profit.
Russell the Professor
Man, that's a tough one.
Dale Jr.
Yeah. Well I would probably take the money line on the Eagles and then just part put a couple of player prop in there some yardage.
Russell the Professor
What about the year Commanders versus Giants?
Dale Jr.
They're a big favorite.
TJ Majors
I mean man, the Giants look pretty decent preseason.
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
TJ Majors
Not that that sells anything but they.
Dale Jr.
Got neighbors at wide receiver. He's freaking cheat code. Yeah, but. And they. They got a new quarterback room this year.
TJ Majors
They just look different.
Dale Jr.
Know what to expect.
TJ Majors
They look different right now.
Dale Jr.
They'll be tough.
TJ Majors
I enjoy because I don't.
Dale Jr.
We played them so tough last year. Ended up winning the game on seven or nine field goals.
TJ Majors
I remember that.
Dale Jr.
Yeah, it was a record. We never scored any touchdowns but we won on field goals. But I think we'll just have to see our. I'm curious I suppose as to how, you know, can our defense be Bend, don't break. We were a little bend a little break last year so I think our offense is ready to go. But I'll probably do some more college football this weekend. I might slow my roll just a little bit. Let's. I want to build a parlay.
Russell the Professor
Give me SMU money line.
Dale Jr.
Against Baylor.
Russell the Professor
Yeah.
Dale Jr.
Dude, they. They were good last year.
TJ Majors
They were there. They still should be good. The quarterback still there?
Dale Jr.
Yeah. Why are they. Why is that not. Is Baylor that good?
TJ Majors
They lost.
Russell the Professor
They lost Auburn.
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
TJ Majors
I think they're right.
Dale Jr.
I think they're perceived as good. Baylor?
TJ Majors
Yeah, I don't think they're that good.
Dale Jr.
Who did SMU play this past weekend?
TJ Majors
I'm not sure if they had a tune up game.
Dale Jr.
A tune up.
Russell the Professor
All right, what do you got? Tim's NFL or college. Doesn't it?
TJ Majors
I'm gonna have to go with Florida over South Florida. It's a little juicy. I say 50.
Russell the Professor
Virginia Tech minus one and a half over Vandy.
Dale Jr.
I'll take Oregon State over Fresno. All right, that's the dirty Bo Dough segment. Thank you, Russell. Thank you, Tim's. That's brought to you by Fan Jewel, the premier gaming destination of the United States. Make sure you're out there following us and tailing our manufacturer parlay. Let us know if you got a parlay of your own that you got tuned up for this weekend. All right, it's time for the white flag. Started off with the tear down. It was live on YouTube, Twitter following the race and for part of the show, Chase Briscoe the winner. Darlington joined Jeff Gluck and Jordan. Appreciate him taking time out of his busy evening for that door bumper clear dropped on Monday. You were part of that, tj.
TJ Majors
Yeah. Filled in there for a little bit.
Dale Jr.
Flashback a little bit.
TJ Majors
Yeah.
Dale Jr.
Are you missing. Is that why you went and did that?
TJ Majors
I don't know. I think Freddie missed me up and.
Dale Jr.
Down race for Denny and the number 11 team. But a top 10 finish and he talked about all of that on actions detrimental. And Wednesday, my guest interview with Deb Williams. She's been in this business for a long time covering the sport. She's going to have a lot of great stories about a lot of things that she experienced and Herman Schrader and Speed Street. Also coming out on Wednesday, Thursday, another episode of Bless yous Heart. I'll be back in the studio with Amy this week. Thank you to Laura Boyer for filling in last week. I watched that show and it was a lot of fun.
Russell the Professor
Were you worried about maybe some stories they might tell you?
Dale Jr.
Not at all. I think that's what the show's great about is hearing about, you know, a little, little bit of the family side or the personal side of some of the. Some of the. Not only the drivers, but the wives as well. Yeah. On Friday, the Dirty 30 comes out, another episode. It's a recap show, 30 minutes long. Not everybody has time to listen to every show. So this is sort of the highlights of everything that we do here at Dirty Mo Media every Friday, the Dirty 30. Check it out. We'll see you. Have a great time. And tomorrow, Deb Williams, honey, do not make plans. Saturday, September 13th, okay? Why? What's happening? The Walmart wellness event.
TJ Majors
Flu shots, health screenings, free samples from those brands.
Dale Jr.
You like all that at Walmart?
Russell the Professor
We can just walk right in, no appointment needed.
TJ Majors
Who knew we could cover our health and wellness needs at Walmart?
Dale Jr.
Check the calendar.
Travis Tims
Saturday, September 13th Walmart wellness event.
Dale Jr.
You knew? I knew. Check in on your health at the same place you already shop.
Travis Tims
Visit Walmart, Saturday, September 13th for our.
Dale Jr.
Semi annual wellness event. Flu Shot. Subject to availability and applicable state law. Age restrictions apply. Free samples while supplies last.
Host: Dale Earnhardt Jr. | Co-hosts: TJ Majors, Russell "the Professor" and Travis Tims
Podcast Network: Dirty Mo Media, SiriusXM
In this engaging episode, Dale Jr. and his crew dig into the week's hot-button NASCAR topics—most notably, the Xfinity Series Portland race and controversial corner-cutting, the enduring debate about NASCAR’s playoff format, and “soul-crushing losses” in both racing and sports fandom. The crew also discusses standout performances during the Cup race, delivers behind-the-scenes anecdotes, breaks down playoff implications, and answers spirited fan questions—with plenty of humor and candid storytelling along the way.
Timestamps: 06:27–21:13, 52:05–61:14
Main Theme: The crew fervently debates the legitimacy and impact of Connor Zillich’s corner-cutting move at the end of the Portland race—a move legal by current rules but arguably unsatisfying from a competition and spectacle point of view.
Key Insights:
Memorable Quotes:
Proposed Solution:
Historical Context:
Timestamps: 26:21–43:03
Main Theme: A passionate, nostalgic debate takes shape over whether the current format—where points reset each round and the title decided by a single race—is fair, and if soul-crushing moments from the full points season era are missing.
Key Insights:
Memorable Quotes:
Timestamps: 46:23–56:15, 76:45–83:08
Darlington Southern 500:
Hendrick Motorsports:
Playoff Bubble:
Final Four Picks:
Chase Briscoe Interview: (full segment at 77:00+)
Memorable Quotes:
Timestamps: 58:25–73:17
Dale’s Florence Race Experience:
Beach Music Etiquette:
Nicknames in NASCAR:
Timestamps: 83:10–93:40
Manufacturing Parlay:
College Football Banter:
| Time | Segment | |----------|--------------------------------------------------------| | 06:27 | Portland Xfinity Race corner-cutting controversy | | 26:21 | Playoff format debate & soul-crushing losses | | 46:23 | Cup race recap & Hendrick postmortem | | 52:05 | Playoff bubble analysis | | 58:25 | Ask Junior (fan Q&A, Dale’s Florence race story) | | 74:18 | Chase Briscoe nickname origin | | 76:45 | Chase Briscoe interview (mindset, prep, late race) | | 83:08 | Dirty Mo Dough (betting picks, NFL/college football) | | 93:40 | White flag, episode housekeeping, wrap-up |
This episode offers a deep dive into what makes and breaks races, drivers’ careers, and fans’ attachments in modern NASCAR. From the controversy of strategic rule exploitation to the yearning for the lost drama of the old championship points system, and from wry locker-room stories to technical breakdowns of playoff scenarios, Dale Jr. and his team deliver humor, honesty, and unique perspective you won’t get anywhere else. The Chase Briscoe interview caps it with an active driver’s mindset and some classic nickname lore.