
Dale and TJ Clash Over Brad Keselowski & Austin Dillon Wreck
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Denny Hamlin
Thursday night, we'll go all night. And we went. When I say all night, I'm talking about Dale Jr. At the house all night.
TJ Majors
Oh,
Dale Jr.
see the sun come up.
Denny Hamlin
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Dale Jr.
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Dale Jr.
The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. This is the most fun I've had in this chair in the last hour and a half. Yes.
TJ Majors
I don't know if we've ever argued. Did I piss you off over the
Dale Jr.
weekend or I'm still sour that I
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wasn't the best man at your wedding.
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Who was your best man, Dale?
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Tj.
TJ Majors
Tj.
Dale Jr.
You don't need a cool vest for that race. What are you thinking? Get them, dj. Hell. Way to start the show.
TJ Majors
All right then.
Dale Jr.
All right, everyone.
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We're back again for another episode of the Dale Jr. Download here in the Arby's studio. Don't forget about Arby's new meet and three box. Get more meal for your money.
Dale Jr.
At Arby's. We have the meets. TJ Majors.
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My co host is here, Travis, part of the Denny Bros. Crew.
TJ Majors
Gosh dang.
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All excited about this weekend's win. Denny Hamlin crossing the finish line first. Pretty incredible race, tj.
TJ Majors
Exciting race. Nashville. Nashville always brings. It started off kind of slow, but it always kind of brings it to the end.
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You probably missed part of it.
TJ Majors
Definitely missed a little bit on the
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plane a little early.
TJ Majors
Definitely got out of there a little early.
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Yeah. What time did you get home, TJ? Like 10?
TJ Majors
No, it was. I mean, it was till 1 o'. Clock. Ish. Probably.
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Yeah, yeah, I got. We got home 3:45 in the morning.
TJ Majors
No, it was late.
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It was late.
TJ Majors
Way late.
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All right. So the battle for the win, pretty incredible. Three wide down the front straightaway into turn one. For everything that we say is wrong with the next gen car put on hell of a race.
Dale Jr.
There was.
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Larson spun on the inside.
TJ Majors
Yeah, I was going to ask you about that. I never saw tell what happened right there.
Dale Jr.
All right.
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Hey, had a left retire or right rear tire cut go down. Yeah, I forget what it was. There was some contact for him.
TJ Majors
It's already done there at the right rear tire.
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Oh, I know what it was. Brake rotor parts from the exploded brake rotor. I guess it was the crash that happened before this.
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Oh, the Ryan Priest.
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That's right. Ryan Priest.
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TJ Majors
Yeah, that.
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So Bush blows the brake rotor into turn three. Apparently the five must have ran over something. And when they get the restart, he's
Dale Jr.
got the flat tire.
TJ Majors
There's a lot of smoke.
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Well, he spun. He spun and he spun it out full throttle. So he's got the issue right there. He knows it. He's like, oh, man, what are we going to do here?
TJ Majors
She's hurting right here.
Dale Jr.
So he's coming down. He's slowed down. In complete control of the car.
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You know it's coming. TJ a little more speed going into turn three on the apron.
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And let's throttle up,
TJ Majors
go back just second one, like real quick. Oh, we went from. Look at this. You see the RPMs?
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What?
TJ Majors
Watch the RPMs.
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Okay,
TJ Majors
just watch. It goes like 7, 6, 7.
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Well, hey, listen, can't blame him. Trying to get himself a yellow there so he can get to pit road quickly. Maybe only lose.
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He would have stayed on the lead lap.
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I don't know, man. Caution comes out. That was some of pit road change.
TJ Majors
No, not there. They're already by him right here. They would have. They would have got laughed easily.
Dale Jr.
He spins out.
TJ Majors
But worth a. I mean, never know what happens.
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Yeah, worth a try.
Dale Jr.
Thank you.
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I don't condone intentional spinning, but hey, I've tried it.
TJ Majors
Good job. Nascar. Not throwing it right there. Not reacting quick and being like, oh, car spinning.
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Yeah, so. Well, we had a hell of a battle for the win. And
Dale Jr.
yeah.
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I mean,
Jerome Davis
what.
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What are we.
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What are we missing?
Dale Jr.
It was just incredible race.
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You know what was interesting is when you're a broadcaster, you got to try to.
Dale Jr.
Everybody does it different.
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This is what I do. I got notes for notes for notes for days and days and days. And I have a filing cabinet at my house. And every race, every filing, every folder there's is a racetrack. And so I get out that weekend's racetrack, I go through all of the notes. Everything that I've written down that was an issue or an interesting thing that happened in every race is in those notes. It's just pages and pages of, of handwritten notes. And I start, I kind of cherry pick out of that from the years before what I think is important. There's a bump in this corner. There's a bump here. The drivers didn't like this. Some guys spun out doing this, and some guys had brake problems at lap, you know, started hearing about brake problems at lap 60 last year. And that was one thing that I wrote down in my notes.
Dale Jr.
I was like, had some guys talking about brake problems.
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And we're going with less drag and more horsepower, so you probably cut more mile an hour faster at the end of the straightaway. A little more brake pressure, little brake issue. So we get to the racetrack and garage is going to open up at 8 o' clock in the morning on Friday. Go down in there and I'm wandering around, I'm trying to find a crew chief to talk to. And I was looking at all the team's brake ducts and man, they're all so different.
Dale Jr.
Typically, everybody's kind of close.
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Guy might have a little more opening, less, you know, than the others, but not vast, not vast differences, right?
Dale Jr.
And a lot of Fords were sealed solid.
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A lot of, a lot of chevrolet solid. Like 75% of the garage didn't have any opening. And I was like, okay, that's interesting. No brake cooling whatsoever.
Dale Jr.
So there was a couple guys that
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had little slits, like a quarter inch opening. And then I saw the 45, the 23, the 19, maybe one one or two other cars wide open on top. And I'm like, oh, I wonder what that's all about. Like, surely they're, they're gonna, they're gonna tape up more after, you know, during practice or there, I don't know, you know.
Dale Jr.
So I start talking to some crew
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chiefs and they're like, nah, man, this is how we're gonna run it. We got this rotor, we got this pad, we got this master cylinder. We're doing this, we're doing that. And wide opens the way we want to be. And there's other people like, yeah, we can't, we can't get them hot enough. You know, the guys that are tape solid, they're like, we can't keep the temperature in the rotor. We don't want it to cool down. So the rotor is so efficient. Like, everything on the next gen car is over done.
Dale Jr.
And the rotor blows so much air
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through it that it spikes up to a thousand twelve hundred degrees or whatever when used in the corner. Like, you mashed a break, go down the corner, mash the brake. The temperature goes fast from like 600 to a thousand degrees, like, quick. And then you let off, and you go down the next straightaway. And it's so efficient in cooling. Air comes from the inside of the. Inside of the rotor, around the hub, around the spindle, and out toward the wheel through the veins of the rotor.
Dale Jr.
And that works so well.
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Kind of like a turbine engine or whatever, right? And the thing cools down 400 to 600 degrees on the next straightaway. So that's a big rubber band in temperature. Up, up 400, down 400, up 400, down 400. Twice every lap.
Dale Jr.
Twice a lap.
TJ Majors
So not good.
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Not good.
Dale Jr.
That's why it cracks.
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It cracks right around where it's bolted to the hat, and it. And it comes apart. And so
Dale Jr.
the.
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The thing is, is, like, man, we got to keep the temperature in it. We don't want it to cool down that much.
Dale Jr.
So they put these pieces on the inside of the hub to restrict the
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air that can go through it. Same way you're seeing them tape up the grill, they're restricting the air. That's. They do that as well with the. With the rotor. Sorry. So it's technical, man. And it was fun to talk to
Dale Jr.
these crew chiefs about what they thought was the best way to do it. We talk about the next gen car being this kit car you can't change.
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And.
Dale Jr.
And that's true in a lot of ways.
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There's not a lot of things they can do with the track in terms
Dale Jr.
of shocks and springs and fun they used to do years ago. But the rotor brake situation. There are many ways to do it. And for the most part, everybody that raced the other night didn't have a failure.
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There was a couple cars, a few cars that did. Two teammates at trackhouse.
TJ Majors
Yeah, there was.
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You guys had a failure on rfk, yeah.
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SVG when he saw us, was freaking out, and they're like, don't worry. Your setup is totally different.
Dale Jr.
Right? Yeah.
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Which I love.
Dale Jr.
I went to a couple teams, too, that said, yep.
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My teammates, not the same as me.
TJ Majors
And what do you think that means?
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Well, that. Well, I went to one team, and one was tape, solid. One Was wide open. And one had different brake pads.
Dale Jr.
Different, different, different.
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You know, the brake pads. Some run hotter than others. You maybe want that. You may want less temperature in your pad. And so they were, you know, they were just. Their tape was completely different. 1, 1, 1. One Toyota was wide open, one Toyota was tape solid. And I'm like, man, why are y' all so different? You come out of the same shop, you have the same information, same data, just different ideas. Yep. And so I love that.
Dale Jr.
I thought that was, I thought that was interesting.
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I, I don't think we need to.
Dale Jr.
I don't think we're putting the drivers
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in a, In a dangerous situation. I think that it's, it's. There's a balance of.
TJ Majors
I don't think it's.
Dale Jr.
No, no, no. I know people are going to. Well, there are people on the Internet that'll say all these crappy parts.
TJ Majors
You know, this is all self inflicted.
Dale Jr.
Well, I think that there needs to be. There needs to be some, you know, this needs to be a test of man and machine.
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And the machine was tested.
TJ Majors
Nashville brings it.
Dale Jr.
And so, you know, I think I
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miss the days where, you know, you get in a car and you're like, man, I hope the engine can make it.
Dale Jr.
Let's not run a lot of laps
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on it and practice. You know, let's, you know, let's, let's take, you know, we, you know, motors for the most part are bulletproof, for the most part wire. And there's never, you know, we years and years ago used to have coils go bad, ignition boxes, wiring, wiring gremlins and motors breaking valve springs.
Dale Jr.
And boy, we got a bad batch of valve springs.
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We keep breaking valve spring.
TJ Majors
You know, we used to go out to make a run in practice and Stevie be like, oh, we can only run five laps here. We're limit.
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Yeah, it just, you know, I, I miss that because that was.
Dale Jr.
You always kind of need that suspense
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or that fear to. Is a nice ingredient to the, to the whole thing.
TJ Majors
Yeah. You're pushing things to the limit.
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Yeah.
Dale Jr.
And that was what the brake issue
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brought was this sense of, you know, this ain't gonna be just a walk in the park.
TJ Majors
So tires are similar. I mean, we have soft tires and people run them low air and tires.
Dale Jr.
Exactly.
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Yes, T.J. yes. So I'm.
Dale Jr.
While I, I mean, good Goodyear is
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building great tires and they're doing a good job trying to give us softer tires. I'm not sure we had the exact tire we needed this weekend. It didn't really rub the track in as well as we'd like.
TJ Majors
But still lasted a long time.
Dale Jr.
It did last a long time.
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Too long. They could have been a little more aggressive.
TJ Majors
They right side tires.
Dale Jr.
Should they bring the Dover tire?
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They brought a Charlotte tire. Yeah, I guess there's a little difference there. But yeah, you could see it on the racetrack. It never really rubbered in.
Dale Jr.
Not big like, oh, wow, you know,
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there's a ton of rubber on the track like we saw in the O'Reilly race.
TJ Majors
O'Reilly race. Rubbered up.
Dale Jr.
It did.
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So that's something they can gain on. But you're right, the teams can get aggressive on. On the air pressure and put themselves in a bad spot with tires and fail tires and so forth.
TJ Majors
And it's not just the, you know, it's the drivers, how drivers drive to. A lot of drivers use a lot more brake than others.
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I love all of this because it gives me. It's. That kind of stuff is going to be in my notes when we come back here next year. We're going to go, hey, we're going to still have this issue. Going to walk around the garage, you're going to talk to guys, you're going
Dale Jr.
to feel like, all right, we got it under control.
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Or no, we're not sure.
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Next year, I think it'll be a little. One thing I've liked about this year is with the added horsepower, teams are having to deal with sim. They're. They're kind of guessing, and then they're going to the track and they're. Some teams are missing.
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And so let me tell you, mark this down. St. Louis, we run the same package. St. Louis is harder on breaks than Nashville. St. Louis, you're going to have some guys that fail. All right. You're going to have some people there.
Dale Jr.
If they don't fail.
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It's because everybody, you know, got a bigger bit of a reality check this weekend.
TJ Majors
Yeah, I think everybody goes bigger. Like, I. I feel like they go more short track stuff there.
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But everybody had it there. Everybody had it. Yeah.
TJ Majors
It's going so much to me, you're going so much faster at Nashville. But, I mean, I like Nashville. It's. It's a trying race.
Charles Barkley
The.
Dale Jr.
The track. It. St. Louis is harder on brakes.
TJ Majors
Is that a daytime race or. Yeah, nighttime race.
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Daytime.
TJ Majors
Oh, yeah, that's. It's 200 degrees.
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It'll be. It's harder on break. There's more brake pressure. They're long straightaways, tight corners. And then you. You don't, you know, the Problem is, is like it at that track. If, if the, if the cooling down
Dale Jr.
of the brakes is kind of your
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nemesis because you want to keep the temperature in them. If the cool to a point, right. You don't want to, but you want
Dale Jr.
to keep them glowing.
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You want to keep them warm. You don't know. Glowing is probably the wrong thing to say there. You want to keep them hot. You would rather them not rubber band in temperature. And when you go to St. Louis, you got this really tiny one and two. You use a ton of brake pressure getting into term one really you have a big three and four where you
Dale Jr.
don't use as much brake. So you really get that brake rotor hot and then it cools all the way around the racetrack the rest of the way you use a little bit
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of break into turn three. But you know that the temperature is going to come out of that rotor around. That's, it's a, that's going to be interesting to watch. We won't be broadcasting that one, but I'll be tuned in.
Dale Jr.
They didn't have a lot of brake
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problems there last time, so. But again, less drag, more horsepower.
TJ Majors
I think the bigger issue there might be low air.
Jerome Davis
We'll see.
TJ Majors
But we'll see. Yeah. Who knows?
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Austin Dillon, Brad Keselowski.
Dale Jr.
So Brad and Austin had a couple of bang, bang run ins.
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Ends up getting Brad wrecked like hell here on the front straightaway. And you come over the radio, you said it was intentional. Brad watched the replay and at the outside, the infield care center said, man, that looked intentional to me. You guys have had a chance to kind of look at the SMT data and go over everything. I've had a chance to talk to Austin. What's your opinion?
TJ Majors
I'm still the same way. I still feel like Austin was looking for him. I don't think he, I don't know if Austin meant to turn him like that, but I do think Austin was mad from earlier. He obviously was.
Dale Jr.
Why would he not be mad at
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17 trying to find him? 17's the one that spun him out.
TJ Majors
I don't, I don't know why, but it's always they've had run ins. Remember Loudon when he just got mad under caution started Michigan? Yeah, but that's what I'm saying though, so. And then Loudon happens and well, maybe
Dale Jr.
he, maybe he's got over there.
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Maybe y' all are the ones hanging on to that.
TJ Majors
Maybe he didn't.
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I don't know.
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But what did you see from the actual.
Dale Jr.
You, you got some Guilt on your heart from wrecking Austin. So you think next time he runs into you, he's, he's mad he done it on purpose.
TJ Majors
Well, when he gets. Does it and he is, and he, and he calls him out and then calls me out too. I mean, then he's obviously called out. Huh?
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He called you out after this?
TJ Majors
Yeah, he said my name on his radio. I was listening during this race. Yes.
Dale Jr.
What'd he say?
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I.
TJ Majors
It broke up a little bit, but I heard him say something. T.J. i mean, I, like, I don't know what he said.
Dale Jr.
He said, what the hell is TJ Thinking there?
TJ Majors
He might have. I don't know. Yeah, but, yeah, I don't know. I mean, well, I just watching it, to me, like, you're, he's just tracking him, like, out of the corner. He's just like, oh, I'm going where he goes, like, like he's looking for him. Like, when you come out of the corner, like I, and you know, and his guys down there, like, you know, Brad's anything, you know, for about what? For about wrecking everybody right there. I'm like, what are you talking about? You got bumped by the 17, not us. And I mean, like, I mean, he's not going for a hole right there.
Dale Jr.
Well, everybody's checking up.
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Brad checked up.
Dale Jr.
Look, the force goes up track. Everybody's like, whoa, whoa.
TJ Majors
I don't know. I, I, I know and I hear you, man. I mean, if he says on the radio, I'm done with this guy. What happens before that? If he says on the radio, how's that look?
Dale Jr.
Well, everybody says that.
TJ Majors
I'm just saying.
Dale Jr.
I get it. I know, I know. You're saying. But he lifted for the hit.
TJ Majors
So priests.
Dale Jr.
Priests lifted.
TJ Majors
I mean, priest lifted when they hit.
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No, in Texas, he lifted before he hit you. Why would you be wrecking a guy?
TJ Majors
Well, you don't want to knock your nose off. He said that earlier, whenever he, in the first wreck there, he said he lifted more. Chris got him. Cause he didn't want to hurt the nose.
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So my opinion is that you. He does. Did he try to wreck you on purpose? I don't think he did. Did he give a. That you got wrecked? No, but I don't think, considering everything that they've had to go through the last couple of weeks, that they want to be out there wrecking people.
TJ Majors
I don't think he meant for that wreck to happen like that. I don't think he did. He didn't go into there saying, well, this is how I want it to happen. I want to get him. I want to end his night.
Jerome Davis
Yeah.
TJ Majors
Do I think he wasn't going to cut any brakes right there? Absolutely.
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That's different. That's different than being intentional while driving into.
TJ Majors
Striving into somebody on purpose is intentional.
Dale Jr.
Well, I think everybody was checking up.
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I don't think he was trying to. I don't think he drove into you on, I think, like, the tent. You and the 10 make a little contact. That wasn't intentional.
TJ Majors
If everybody's checking up, I usually go to the path that's more clear than the one.
Dale Jr.
I mean, he sees the four slide up the track. He's getting down the track just like you are.
TJ Majors
I mean, there's a. There's a gap on the end.
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He also sees. Yeah, the 10 is coming.
Dale Jr.
Yeah, the 10 comes down. Checks y' all up. Everything was kind of like, all messed up.
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Where should he be gone?
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Tj.
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TJ said he should have.
Dale Jr.
Where the six wasn't.
TJ Majors
I would have lifted. I mean, like, to me, he's just tracking Brad right there the entire time. I didn't like. Is he not.
Dale Jr.
All right, he is, but. So the twos tracking the 48. Other people are tracking other people. They aren't allowed to do that.
TJ Majors
Like, when you come off the corner, the momentum again.
Dale Jr.
Look at the two in the 48.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Okay.
TJ Majors
You've got your mind made up. It's one way. Like, look.
Dale Jr.
Oh, two is tracking the 48. Must be trying to wreck him. I don't know, man. I'm just saying that.
TJ Majors
But he doesn't do it well.
Dale Jr.
He 48 didn't lift.
TJ Majors
And, you know, after it happens, there is no. Oh, man. Hey, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to do that. Like, if you don't mean to do it, then.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah, well, I'm sure he's not sorry, considering the history I didn't even know about. I didn't think about all the history from Michigan and all that stuff. So I'm sure he's not like, oh, I'm so regretful.
Dale Jr.
He's probably like, yeah, that guy.
TJ Majors
Yeah. I mean, he said, eric, I'm all at the end of the Daytona 500 at one time, too. I mean, right?
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah, through a big block.
Dale Jr.
I mean, he stayed on 500.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
What are we talking about?
Dale Jr.
That's like the Daytona 500. This ain't the last lap. Turn three, Daytona.
TJ Majors
Does it matter what race it is?
Dale Jr.
Yes. Oh, 500. TJ, you're telling me you're going to compare this? I Mean I'm not three last lap.
TJ Majors
I'm not driving. I'm not going to drive. You head under the wall at Daytona
Dale Jr.
driving me head on the wall. He threw a block and he said you're not blocking me. That's totally different.
TJ Majors
I disagree with that but well listen, I don't think he meant for this big wreck to happen in the 2 car. I hate that the 2 car got tore up in it because he's been. Austin's been having a really good year and, and stuff but I do think like you said there was like ah, if it happens, it happens. I'm not.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I think that's kind of what it was. So if it happens it happens.
TJ Majors
But yeah, it's racing. We'll go on race next week too.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah, I did talk to Austin. Austin told me that I was dead on. But I mean that's his, you know, that's.
TJ Majors
I mean he's never, he's not going to tell you that he, that he did it on.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Why wouldn't he? If me and him talking in a personal conversation, he would tell me he done it on purpose. He'd say yeah, that guy.
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Cuz Dale's is not. Then Dale's not going to take that to the show then.
Dale Jr.
Yeah, we're buddies.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I mean he didn't, he didn't call me on a conference call. What a zoom. We just text him.
TJ Majors
I think it was awesome. Was fired up at the time when everything. I think he was pissed off in the race and it lined up right for it to happen like that.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah.
TJ Majors
And like I said, I mean I get along with Austin great. Like I get along with Austin fine. I, I got a lot of respect for Austin too. I mean I always, if I see Austin have good runs, I, you know him and Bob, I love Boswell over there too. I think Boswell's doing a great job. I think Boswell did a really good job after the stuff, managing, setting themselves up for later because immediately when they got lapped he was like setting up for fuel runs at the end of the race like trying to stretch it, things like that.
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Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Well, moving on the point situation, Denny Hamlin chops into the big lead that Tyler Reddick had and now it's 97 points. Denny's got two wins for stage wins. Redick has not gotten a stage win, but he has those five wins from earlier in the season.
Dale Jr.
And I'm telling you, man, I started to see I might people are, I
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
don't know how people feel about this. So maybe, maybe I'm going into some, some uncharted waters here.
Dale Jr.
But Tyler Redick wins the five races. Incredible. No doubt. Fantastic.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
We had him on the show. Awesome forever.
TJ Majors
It seemed like he was out. He was a part of co host.
Dale Jr.
Good cool deal, right?
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Awesome.
Dale Jr.
But when you look at, you know,
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
you got Daytona, that, that was like a last lap sort of being in the right place, getting the right run.
Dale Jr.
Atlanta, you know, they worked all day
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
to put themselves in position. But again, Atlanta and Daytona kind of similar. Good job.
Dale Jr.
But I don't think you leave Daytona
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
and Atlanta with wins going, man, we're good. You know, I'm looking forward to the
Dale Jr.
mile and a half.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
You know what I'm saying?
TJ Majors
Yeah, 100%.
Dale Jr.
Right. Well, they did get some other wins, but they weren't. Were they really like dominating races? Were they? Are they, Were they. Denny Hamlin, styles, you know, speed. And what I'm asking, or what I'm saying is like, all right, we go
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
to this racetrack this weekend, last weekend
Dale Jr.
at 600 as well, two pretty good
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
examples of what kind of racetracks we're going to run out predominantly throughout the season.
Dale Jr.
And all of the JGR cars were
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
a little bit better than 2311.
Dale Jr.
A little bit.
TJ Majors
A tiny bit. Yeah.
Dale Jr.
Right. Just a tiny bit. You know what I mean?
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
They have that edge that's right over
Dale Jr.
a 10 race stretch. the end of the season, I got to give the advantage to 20 to JGR over 2311. And I've, I've got to say, instead of just, can Redick beat Denny, my
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
question is, can Reddick compete with Briscoe, with Bell? When Bell gets his together, he's going to be all right. He's going to be tough.
Dale Jr.
So while Reddick sitting out here with
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
his giant lead, I'm not sure that
Dale Jr.
they're the best team in the garage. You look at this sheet of paper with the points and go, oh, this thing's dominating the series.
Guest or Additional Co-host
But you look at laps led.
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
TJ Majors
Well, if we start looking at these sheets, that number is getting smaller. A little bit fewer. Looking at a graph right now.
Guest or Additional Co-host
Yeah, but do you think then. I don't think. And Denny's basically said that he doesn't think he can get him.
Dale Jr.
I don't know if he'll get him.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I'm not really worried about that. I'm just trying to handicap the field. So I would say right now, Denny Hamlin's the clear favorite to win a championship.
TJ Majors
If he keeps jumping the start, he's not going to get him.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
He just done it first time.
TJ Majors
Make it. Can't make races hard on yourself.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
He did it first time in his life. He got. He got excited.
Dale Jr.
And hey, there is a rule that's written in ink in the rule book that says the starts, all of them
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
have to be in the zone.
Guest or Additional Co-host
Yeah. That's not the green flag.
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TJ Majors
No, it's. This is the same thing that happened at the All Star Race. We're on the Front row of Denny. And I told Brad, I said, brad, if he does not go by the end of the restart zone, hammer down, we are legal to go. What's Danny do? He waits till the end of the zone and we go and we get. Beat him on the start.
Guest or Additional Co-host
Yeah.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
So, yeah, it's in. It's in the rule book. If you read it, you'll see it.
TJ Majors
Flagman throws it on the leader with the pole setter.
Dale Jr.
All starts have to happen in that box.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Denny went before the line.
TJ Majors
Then he went and like, he went. He went like World of Outlaw style.
Dale Jr.
People feel like that's the starter waves
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
the green flag, is.
Jerome Davis
Yeah.
Dale Jr.
No, that's the rule.
TJ Majors
No, it's not the. He throws it when the leader takes off.
Dale Jr.
And plus, sometimes you have some yahoo
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
CEO up there waving the thing, might drop it. Or some retired race car driver.
TJ Majors
Yeah, you've done it.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah.
Dale Jr.
So I would say that Denny's the
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
clear favorite to win a championship behind him. Do we have another JGR guy? Do we have an HMS guy? I mean, who is the next.
Dale Jr.
I don't think it's Tyler Reddick.
TJ Majors
It's Bell to me.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
You think it's Christopher Bell?
TJ Majors
I think it's Christopher.
Dale Jr.
I think that's fair.
TJ Majors
Fair.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
What do you think there?
Guest or Additional Co-host
It's probably. I still think I would take Reddick over Bell.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah.
TJ Majors
But I don't know, man.
Guest or Additional Co-host
Bill, I'm looking at the standings like bell's only 10 back of Larson. Like he can. I think
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
my question is. Is like, I know that the Toyota's been great, but look at. Looking like, you know, Larson found a little speed.
Dale Jr.
He's gotten a little bit better.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
They didn't.
Dale Jr.
They didn't put together the best sort of race the other night.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
They had, you know, they had it
Dale Jr.
in control at one point, but they
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
lost a little track position and some stuff. You gotta be able to, you know, you gotta be able to maximize track position. And they just weren't where they probably wanted to be late in the race.
TJ Majors
Like, the. The 20 makes moves like he. He passes a lot more car.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Tyler, just listen.
TJ Majors
Maintains.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah, I thought 20 was going to win the race. I thought he was car the other night.
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Guest or Additional Co-host
Yeah, Better than any.
Dale Jr.
So I like Christopher Bell. That's a good per.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
That's a good one to say who's. Who's second? Who's. Who's.
Dale Jr.
Who's the guy that's probably behind Denny behind thirds.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Right.
Dale Jr.
I mean, I think you could say
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
you can make an argument that Chase Elliott could. Kyle Larson.
TJ Majors
Yep. I would say. Yeah, I would say the 12. I mean, not. Not lately.
Dale Jr.
I am going to. I'm going to predict, as we've said,
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
that the champions coming out of the top six.
Dale Jr.
And I would say that,
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
you know,
Dale Jr.
Christopher Bell may leapfrog into the top six.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I don't know.
Dale Jr.
Let's say it's a top seven. I think that.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I would say. I would handicap it like this. I would. I would say, Denny, the 20.
Dale Jr.
Christopher Bale's too far back for me. Like, if he was third, fourth, I would say him.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
But I mean, if we said, hey, you're going to start. You're going to start like this. Tyler Reddick is going to be first. Danny Ryan, Chase Elliott, Ty Gibbs, Kyle Larson, Christopher Bell.
Dale Jr.
I would say that I think Bella
TJ Majors
will get a couple of wins, though, before, like, in the next couple month or so. I think he'll have a couple wins.
Dale Jr.
All right. I know.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I think.
Dale Jr.
I don't think you're wrong, but I'm
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
saying if we're starting like, we are right here.
Dale Jr.
Anyhow, I like Denny. And then I like.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
It's Kyle Larson or Chase Elliott for me.
Dale Jr.
Blaney
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
C. Bell, Reddick.
Dale Jr.
Like, I would put Reddick fourth, fifth or sixth.
Guest or Additional Co-host
What makes me nervous about, like, Larson is he can hit it and go on a run, but also, you know that he's some DNFs and some things like he's sometimes, you know, home run or bust. And it's.
Tiffany Davis
I don't.
Dale Jr.
I don't disagree with that. But what is your. Where's your. What is giving you all this confidence in Reddick? They didn't win a race last year.
TJ Majors
Well, he just has speed. He just has speed. His cars are fast.
Guest or Additional Co-host
They found something.
Dale Jr.
Yeah, they did.
TJ Majors
Their cars are fast. What scares me about Chase is I looked in the beginning of that race, and Chase is legit running, like 23rd or 24th and not moving like he's. It maybe not even that high. And then the pit, the thing flips. He's really good at. Chase is really good at putting together a race, but to me, sometimes they lack that speed to get. You know what I mean, to be up front.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I agree.
TJ Majors
And sometimes you get caught up.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
They don't. The Chevy's don't have it right now.
TJ Majors
Yeah. And it's harder to get there. He can do it, but you can get caught up.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
The fours don't have it, but they're starting to show some of it. There's like, they're starting to you're starting to see just a little bit of it.
Dale Jr.
Don't be surprised, man.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I'm telling you, in three or four
Dale Jr.
races, don't be surprised if the Toyotas aren't leading as many laps anymore. I think Denny Hamlin is Denny Hamlin.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
He's going to do exactly what he's doing right now all year long. No question. But I'm just curious as to what people's opinions are.
Dale Jr.
I. I'm read it could snap back, but I just don't see.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I don't see the speed and they're not maximizing races like they were at the start of the year. They did incredible things with strategy restarts. Reddick just being Reddick.
TJ Majors
He was just working.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yep. Working, working, working and just getting everything right. And that's what apparently they need for these race wins to happen.
TJ Majors
I mean how the last.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I just feel like some other guys have a little more pace.
TJ Majors
SVG's been. Yeah like a fifth place average guy here the last couple few weeks.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
All right, so s. That's another thing too. I wanted to look at big, big losers in the points. Braxlowski, Bubba Wallace. And both dropping two spots. Brad to 13th, Bubba to 15th, Priest four spot.
TJ Majors
Or was that one? No, that's one. Yeah.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
A.J. ahmedinger had.
Guest or Additional Co-host
He dropped three.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
A.J.
Jerome Davis
i'm a.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Had a bit of a chance to
Dale Jr.
try to race for that 16th spot
TJ Majors
as you did a good job.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
But they lost three spots in the points to 22nd.
TJ Majors
Yeah.
Dale Jr.
Ross Chastain lost three as well.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Down to 26. The big drop for those guys. And he's extremely frustrated. Bubble Wallace's interview. Boy, is he frustrated. He is down, down in the dumps about how his season's going.
TJ Majors
Do you think the averages they're posting right now of like the last three race finishes are really. Because you leave the Glenn's anomaly. That's a road course. So of course that's gonna. You're gonna have a couple different guys at the front in that. Then you go to Charlotte or. Where was it? Charlotte Watkins Glenn. What else is in there? The also race which doesn't count. So. And then we ran out qualifying. So the finishes are just carrying over for two weeks in a row. You know what I mean? Once you have track position these cars, a lot of times it's easier to keep that through. To me, in the last two, three races you've seen the same guys in the top ten.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah.
TJ Majors
You know what I mean? Like qualifying, being rained out. Really, really doesn't get a chance to Mix it up.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
The metric.
TJ Majors
Yes.
Dale Jr.
Oh, yeah.
Guest or Additional Co-host
Like, Ross would have probably been higher on the 100.
TJ Majors
Like a lot of guys. You look at the starting starting grid for Nashville, it was like, weird looking. It was so
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Mother Nature. She's undefeated.
TJ Majors
Undefeated ever since you came back. You brought it with you.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yep.
TJ Majors
I asked you about if you got content to fill in here. Now you need it.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Shane van Gisbergen up two spots to 12th. Incredible. He's doing it on the ovals.
TJ Majors
Racing the heck out of the guys, too.
Dale Jr.
Yeah, he should.
TJ Majors
Yeah, he's doing good.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
And I think they enjoy it, honestly. I mean, they race the out of him right back.
TJ Majors
Yeah, 100%.
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Dale Jr.
Hey, Everybody, it's Dale Jr and we
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
are here for another Ash Jr segment for the Dale Jr download with TJ Majors, my co host. We're in the Arby's studio. Don't forget about Arby's new meet and three box. And also
Dale Jr.
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Dale Jr.
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That's a long time. No surprises. No yet. Late yellows right to victory lane.
Dale Jr.
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Guest or Additional Co-host
First question comes from Twitter guy. Want to know what prompted you to ask Denny Hamlin about starting from the back?
Dale Jr.
Well, oh, you know, you get. So when we sit down in the morning and we have our meeting for
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
the production, they say, all right, we're going to have a driver talk to.
Dale Jr.
That's what they call it.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Right after or during the.
Dale Jr.
The grid, the starting grid. I like to do the whole starting grid.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I'm. I like. That's very nostalgic for me. So I like Adam or a mixture of all of us to read the starting grid, but which we did the first race.
Dale Jr.
This race, we put starting grid on the screen, and then we're going to
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
do driver talk, too, because there's a lot going on, like to get done during the pace laps in the broadcast booth.
TJ Majors
And it was kind of rushed, too, wasn't it, with the weather. The weather was kind of getting down to the pits.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
You got to do all kinds of stuff before we take the green flag.
Dale Jr.
So I was thinking, you know, you're always tasked to come up with something good and, hey, how's the car? Is fine. But
TJ Majors
that's the not normal question.
Dale Jr.
The guy's. Yeah, the guy's sitting in that car and he's like, I really don't want to do this. I'm trying to, you know, trying to
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
get everything right in here. I'm talking to my crew chief. We're going to come down pit road, check speeds. We're going to do.
Dale Jr.
I'm trying to get my head right wrapped around, like, firing off into turn one and leading this race and keeping
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
it, you know, keeping control of it.
Dale Jr.
That's like, you know, you're not. So I recognize that the driver's doing us a favor. And I was like, you know, Denny might appreciate this because he's a gambler. And so I thought, wonder what he would.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I really wanted to know the answer to that question.
Dale Jr.
I was like, I wonder what he
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
would take to give up, you know, this first place on the. On the grid and start shotgun.
Dale Jr.
And you risk the. You really. You take a risk of them, like,
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
scoffing at your question, which sucks because
TJ Majors
they laugh at it.
Dale Jr.
Well, most of these guys know you're
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
trying to do a job.
TJ Majors
Yeah.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
And like, play. You know, kind of play along. And I think Denny then he's. Then he's one of those guys.
Dale Jr.
So I was thankful that he.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
He.
Dale Jr.
He. He paused for a second, and I'm like.
TJ Majors
He's like, should I grill him or
Dale Jr.
should I play all he's gonna on this?
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
But now he. He answered it and come up with a good answer. Double the purse.
Dale Jr.
And you know what's funny is some. Some people on social media thought that I'm the one that's responsible for paying that.
TJ Majors
Yeah.
Dale Jr.
Like, at the end of the race, people were like, all right, pay up. Like, I didn't make a bet with the guy. I just asked him what it would take. Like, at the dirt races, they do this all the time.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
You know, they do it at Millbridge.
TJ Majors
They're like, hey, man, sounds like a verbal contract.
Dale Jr.
You're fast.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
You know, if you want to start
Dale Jr.
in the back, we'll pay you this
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
much more incentive, you win the race. And I'm like, man, what? That would be kind of cool.
Dale Jr.
Because, listen, Denny, if he. If he's the best car and he's
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
starting on the pole and we throw the green flag and he drives away
Dale Jr.
and leads every lap, I'm trying to avoid that. Right.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
As a promoter, broadcaster, as a fan. And so I'm like, man, I want
Dale Jr.
to put the best car at the
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
back of the field, make him have
Dale Jr.
to drive through it.
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And I don't think that's ever going to happen in NASCAR cup level.
TJ Majors
No way.
Dale Jr.
But maybe they need to do that at the All Star race. Right?
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Then he talks about how that million
Dale Jr.
bucks isn't enough anymore because it's been the same forever.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
He thinks that we ought to be paying more money for the All Star win. Maybe you could do that by saying, all right, man, you want.
Dale Jr.
You know, you want $2 million. Go to the rear of the field.
Guest or Additional Co-host
Way to get him amped up on the restart.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah.
Dale Jr.
Oh, is that what it was?
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I made him jump?
Guest or Additional Co-host
No, no, he's. He blamed himself in our bet that we had.
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Yeah.
Guest or Additional Co-host
As the reason.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah.
Dale Jr.
So anyhow, I wasn't.
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I wasn't suggesting that I was making a bet with him. It was just more like, hey, man, what would it take?
Jerome Davis
Yeah.
Guest or Additional Co-host
Next question. People know. What did you think of Cletus's performance?
Dale Jr.
Well, you know, it was a lot of mistakes. Listen, everybody in racing that gets into
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
it is going to bust their ass underneath somebody that. Especially that place, especially. And so, you know, he's getting pushed to try to get the lucky dog there. When he spun out trying, coming to the stage in. Jesse was trying his ass off to help him. Waiting on him to kind of, you know, either stay on a lap or pass this guy or whatever, which was kind of funny.
Dale Jr.
But he's out there running laps. He's not, you know, he. I don't think that he. That he made or ruined anybody else's race.
TJ Majors
No, I don't think so.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah.
TJ Majors
So he almost got caught up in some other people's messes. At times, you know what I mean?
Dale Jr.
So, yeah, I thought he did fine.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
My whole feeling about his deal is
Dale Jr.
if he could get himself two full seasons or a couple years in ARCA running all the ARCA races, all of them short tracks everywhere. If he could go do that, man,
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I think he would be way better off to try to tackle this O'Reilly stuff.
TJ Majors
He probably wouldn't have the solo spins, right?
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah.
Dale Jr.
So while I don't mind him running the One Off O'Reilly race every now and then, I just think he's going
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
to be frustrated because the results won't,
Dale Jr.
you know, he, the race started, he passed a couple cars, but it's like
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Joey Gase and those guys and he's like in a way better car than they are. And he, he called a few people
Dale Jr.
and that's, he's going to. That's, that's great. He was excited about that. But that's.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Eventually he's going to go, all right, man, I'm starting. I know I need to take this car and I need to be running up here. And when he starts to have that happen, he's going to get frustrated. He's going to get, try harder, try harder. He's going to make more mistakes, he's going to get miserable.
Dale Jr.
I just feel like he's, if he's in, if he's in it to have fun, run good and still learn at the same rate.
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You go do that in ARCA series and then run some.
Dale Jr.
He's got a prolate model that he built.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Go run that. I mean, he's got a racetrack.
Dale Jr.
I would be at that racetrack running.
TJ Majors
I know he's got all the tools to work on it.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Like right now on a Tuesday, he could, he could be just running tire running sets of tires at his track in his pro, you know, just spend an hour.
TJ Majors
Do you think he hired like, if you're him, do you hire. I don't know what it is. Budget for all that. Do you hire like a crew chief or someone to come in and, and coach you in these situations? I mean, I feel like he needs somebody to go down there and help the adjustments, you know what I mean? And, and work with him. Go look at data after the runs and things like that. Do you pro? Yeah. Or anything that he know what I mean?
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Well, I mean, I'll.
Dale Jr.
When he's run, when he runs the
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
RCR stuff, they're, they're.
TJ Majors
Oh, they got tons. Yes.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Filling him up with information. He's, he's doing great and RCR is A great, great, great place for him.
TJ Majors
Absolutely.
Dale Jr.
And I think in the ARCA series,
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
he probably doesn't get as much information and as much schooling and tutoring as he probably needs. But I mean, I think, I, I think that's probably going to get fixed.
Dale Jr.
But I think he should drive the pro race. I think he should test the pro
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
a lot before he goes and races it because he's going to make these same mistakes at the pro level and that will be, that'll be worse because there'll be more, There'll be crashes.
TJ Majors
Then I feel like instead of simple spins, it'll be crashes.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Crashes.
TJ Majors
O'Reilly car in Nashville. Man, that's tough.
Dale Jr.
It is tough.
TJ Majors
That's a slick place. Like, really hard.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
He's picked a few challenging tracks.
TJ Majors
I know some Rockingham and like Nashville. Yeah, I agree.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah.
Guest or Additional Co-host
Next question, next question. We were talking about him, right, for Ash Jr. Here. Do you think SVG is now a lock to make the playoffs?
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
No, not a lot. But he's going, he's going to.
Dale Jr.
I don't, I mean there's. Let's see, he's sitting there. No, he's not a lot.
Jerome Davis
I mean.
Guest or Additional Co-host
Well, two road courses coming up.
Dale Jr.
He's got about, almost 30 some points between him. He's got almost a race between him and ryan priest in 17th. Man, I don't know, it's tight. He could, he could have a couple
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
of bad days and be being a bad spot. But he's also got the road courses. If he gets another win or two at a road course, that's going to, that's going to put him about 50 points.
TJ Majors
I agree.
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And so if not more so, I
Dale Jr.
think if he gets another win at a road course. Yes.
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That's what's probably going to lock him in.
TJ Majors
It seems like every week.
Dale Jr.
And he should smoke.
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He should ask at San Diego.
Guest or Additional Co-host
It's over.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah, he should.
TJ Majors
I mean, like, I feel like we talk about people that win on here and then like two weeks later we're like, where'd they go? You know, it doesn't seem like, I mean, and he's on a hot streak right now, but like saying that he's a lock would be a stretch.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah, I agree.
Guest or Additional Co-host
Next question.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I think he makes it, though.
TJ Majors
Yeah, I do too.
Guest or Additional Co-host
Next question comes from Glenn the chat. He said that he saw you tweet that the race felt like 80s Bristol. He said what specific moment during the race made you feel like it was a old school race?
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
We used to sit on top of many. We used to Sit on top of a 15 passenger van in the turns at Bristol and I'm from me to you from the apron and there'd be a little guard rail and you literally could see the eyes of the drivers. You could see their hands in there moving and carrying on as they're going. They go into the corner and the car would hit the banking and you could just see right through the window, right through the pasture window and, or the driver window. And so it was just amazing, man.
Dale Jr.
We were right on top of it. And you could see the cracks in
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
the nose and the dents in the fender and you could see all of the damage just up close. And they would come into the corner and wipe out and you'd ha.
Dale Jr.
You'd see guys blowing up smoke, you'd see guys having problems.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
It seemed like back then the cars were so brittle, the engines and parts and pieces and the drivers were so mistake prone. They ran over each other and into each other and they'd get so mad and angry. All the battling back in the pack was just intense.
TJ Majors
Attrition was high.
Dale Jr.
And so while, yeah, you're sitting there
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
watching that race at Bristol, back then,
Dale Jr.
there was never a long green flag
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run with nothing going on. Never.
Dale Jr.
Every lap there was something to see
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or something going on. And the cameras rarely called it. You know, the cameras are mainly on, on the guys up front back then, even in those races.
Dale Jr.
And it was just entertainment.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
As a kid, you were always, you know, there was always somebody arguing with somebody else in the back of the pack and they would beat on each other for three or four laps.
TJ Majors
Not agreeing.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yep.
Dale Jr.
And that was, that was as close,
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I guess, as I've, I've. We've gotten back to that. The other night, you know, you had, you had the brake issues that really, that was the, you know, the attrition and the, and the imperfection of the car and all of that. So you had some guys making mistakes, running over each other in the corner and wrecking each other. And you know, we don't see that that often. We don't. And you know, our cup guys rarely make mistakes. They rarely spin out by themselves. They rarely run over each other.
TJ Majors
Do you feel like the cars then were much more of a handful to drive? Like not saying a cup car is easy to drive down because it's definitely a difficult.
Dale Jr.
I think it was about the same
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
because back then the tires were a little way different and it was a bi sply tire and you could really yaw it out and run sideways. Yeah, there's A.
Dale Jr.
They're. They're probably harder to drive in some sense today.
TJ Majors
I mean, I. I think it's harder. I think the harder hard part nowadays is just the, the gap from the guys up there are so good.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah.
TJ Majors
You know what I mean? To me, like, the guys, like, isn't. They're all really good. They can put them cars within a six inches every corner where they were.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah.
Dale Jr.
I think the difference is, is today's cars are harder to drive.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
You got to drive them on the edge, and there's a small window when you bust your ass. The little by the little short profile tire we have on here, you're either, you know, you don't. You.
Dale Jr.
You rarely save it when it steps out. Back in the day, you had the
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
base plate tire and you could damn near drive the sun bits like a dirt car. If you wanted to beat out of
Dale Jr.
the tire and blister it, you could. But you could drive.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
You know, you have guys sideways as hell all the time. Big window of getting out of shape and saving it.
Dale Jr.
But in the 80s, your car drove worse. Like your car. Your car drove worse, if that makes sense. Like your car didn't do anything good. It didn't turn good.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
The back wasn't hooked up.
TJ Majors
So a lot of horsepower too.
Dale Jr.
Could spin the tire more power. Well, back in the 80s, honestly, TJ,
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
the powers about as much.
TJ Majors
Could you. Could you wear them out and spin them easier, though?
Dale Jr.
I'm just saying, like, like, would you
Guest or Additional Co-host
have seen three drivers stay out on tires and that restart and wrap it like Denny did?
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Dale Jr.
Yes.
Guest or Additional Co-host
Okay.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah. I mean, tires are pretty hard back then. Pretty conservative. And when they started doing the tire. It's a long story. We're kind of getting in the weeds here.
Dale Jr.
But today's cars are harder to drive.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
The 80s cars drove worse.
Guest or Additional Co-host
Makes sense.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
That's two different things. So,
Dale Jr.
yeah, I. But it was just entertaining, you know, so here's. Here's what.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Here's the moment where, where, where I. Where I. I thought we were maybe in trouble
Dale Jr.
toward the end of stage
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two or the beginning of stage three. I'm looking out at the racetrack, at the whole picture, and there's not one car running off the bottom of the track. And I'm like, man, it is.
Dale Jr.
Three is two thirds of the way through this race, and we're all pinned on the bottom. That is a bad sign.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
So usually, you know, you want people by that point in the race moving up the racetrack. Everybody's chasing grip and turn.
Dale Jr.
They're way up the track.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
And you got guys all over the place.
Dale Jr.
And we weren't doing that. And that's a sign that, man, we might get a long, boring, can't pass green flag run because nobody can move
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
up and make speed. So everybody's running the bottom, and nobody can catch anybody because they're all running
Dale Jr.
in the same line.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
But, you know, we kept having the brake failures. We, you know, things like that were breaking up the race, creating cautions. And every time you have a caution at Nashville, you're 30% likely to have another yellow in the next five laps. Well, so we'd have caution after caution there. We'd have things that would kind of keep the race from becoming a bit of a snooze fest. And so that's kind of what. What Bristol was like. You were.
Dale Jr.
There was never a.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
A boring segment or a long run where nothing was going on. It's always entertaining.
Guest or Additional Co-host
Awesome.
TJ Majors
Yeah. That race kind of got in. It kind of had. At the end of the race, people, that. That race, if you get a caution near the end, it's going to be one after another there. I mean, it's just going to happen. It's hard to hold the bottom. I did, like, at the end of the O'Reilly race how high the groove was getting.
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Well, they had different tire.
TJ Majors
I know, but I was like. They were.
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I just need to say that. I need to say that to the world. Oh, yeah, the world needs to hear that their tire was better.
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Yeah.
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All right, well, that's it for studio this week.
Dale Jr.
All right, y'.
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Dale Jr.
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Dale Jr.
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Dale Jr.
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Dale Jr.
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Dale Jr.
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Tiffany Davis
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Dale Jr.
Wake up.
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I can tell that through all these stories, through all your, you know, your world championship. I know that in your head, you've
TJ Majors
always said, I'm going to be a podcaster one day.
Jerome Davis
You know, I hope that at the end of the day, that It'll bring somebody that hasn't really been around this life that we live, and it brings them to a whole new world. And somebody will say, dang, maybe them cowboys ain't so bad after all.
Tiffany Davis
I think if you can bring some smiles. I love to hear Jerome's stories and just how he carries himself. So I'm all about, if people can get a grin out of it, if they can smile a little bit, what's
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
it gonna be like, Jerome, to have
TJ Majors
Tiffany as a co host to a podcast?
Jerome Davis
Whoa, man.
Tiffany Davis
See this gift of gab I have? Maybe it'll come in a little handy on this.
Jerome Davis
If I keep Tiffany quiet every now and then so she'll let me talk. We'll be in good shape.
Tiffany Davis
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Jerome Davis
And they just get better every time.
Tiffany Davis
Yeah, they do get a little more added into them every time.
Jerome Davis
I don't know why she puts up to me and why she helps living this life that we go through, but she does, and she's. She's awesome.
TJ Majors
It's March 14, 1998, from when they open the gate to when you get hit.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
What do you remember from that?
Jerome Davis
The bull I had that night was Knock him out John. And I'd been on him before, and he had hit me in the face in Vegas one time, so I knew that I had to really stay over the front end and try not to let him hit me in the face. As it worked that night, he got me rocked back and hit me in the face and knocked me out. When he did, I dove in the ground, broke my neck. Went from being at the top of my game to the worst part of my life, you know, all happened within a gate opening at a bull riding.
Tiffany Davis
I was mad at God because I was like, why did you do this to Jerome? He's a good guy. You needed him on your team out here.
Jerome Davis
We were supposed to be getting married in May. Right after I got hurt, I was at the hospital, and I told Tiff. I said, I don't think this is going to work. You need to. We need to regroup. This is not the trail you need to be going down. And if she would have left that day, I wouldn't have blamed her. You know what I mean? And I never would have said a bad word about her.
Tiffany Davis
I never gave thought about leaving. That wasn't an option because I still had Jerome.
Jerome Davis
I couldn't talk her into it. So I was kind of glad she hung around. I'll be honest, I lived through it and it just made me tougher and I was able to make a pretty good living at the sport. It's been good to me when I look around and see, you know, everything that's here today. It all comes from the love of the sport. I mean, everything I wanted to do had to do with being a cowboy.
Tiffany Davis
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Jerome Davis
You just messed this whole shot.
Tiffany Davis
Keep I'm going to redo it, but I could the birds messed the whole shot up, not me. I thought we was getting ready to get attacked.
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You're like that dog that I thought
Tiffany Davis
the birds was coming after us. There was so many of them.
Dale Jr.
Just stay focused.
Jerome Davis
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TJ Majors
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Dale Jr.
All right, we got Denny Hamlin calling into the Dale Jr. Download and yeah. Celebration right now for the winner in Nashville Super Speedway. Then he got his guitar and Denny is happy. Hell of a race, man. I was telling everybody and I think
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I saw a lot of people say the same thing. I don't know if you've had a chance yet to really kind of look, look back at the night, but that was a fantastic race. Super entertaining. It had a lot of things going on. You had guys having some issues with their cars, which you love to see
Dale Jr.
the machines sort of get tested.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
And some people guess correctly on brakes, some didn't. And you had really good racing. I know we get on the next gen car at a lot of different racetracks and for a lot of different reasons.
Dale Jr.
Valid at times, but it, but it was a entertaining show.
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Couldn't, Couldn't complain.
Dale Jr.
Having the leaders three wide down into
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turn one, last lap, that's all you can ask for.
Dale Jr.
It was a classic.
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And y', all, y', all, I know you are a big student of it and you love being the guy that wins the big moments and you won an instant classic. And I know you're probably not the first one you've won, but you got to feel good not only getting your guitar, but also just winning a race that had such a. Such a very popular finish.
Denny Hamlin
Yeah, and not only that, I mean, I talked about it earlier in the week during my presser that, like, there, there are some weeks that mean more personally for different reasons. One is, okay, this would be a new racetrack for me that I haven't won at. I've been dominant there before, haven't won it. I, you know, I got the Denny Bros There for a guy's weekend. So you want to, you know, you want to win because they're like, we're going to win, right? Like, how are we going to do.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
And, you know, the pressure on.
Denny Hamlin
The pressure's on. And so I just, you know, there's more motivation when you have all that stuff going on. And so I just kind of resigned to the fact that with about, you know, 30, 40 to go, I'm like, yeah, we're just going to be a little short here. We just don't have quite enough to race those guys. And, you know, and then the final 10 minutes happens and it changes everything. So again, I like you. I thought that while Nashville is a very tough racetrack when it comes to dirty air and stuff like that, you still got some exciting restarts. You got a little taste of some long run there in stage three. And then you get a Shootout with four laps to go. And like you said, three wide at the white. So not much more you could ask for.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
That's right.
Dale Jr.
I got to ask you, man, I was. I was not great at going into
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
these race weekends and getting out of the bus and enjoying, you know, the areas that we would go visit across the country. You talk about having your friends there, and I know you got out a little bit with the guys.
Dale Jr.
How do you manage that?
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Because they're going to go hard. It's Nashville, it's Broadway. There's a lot to do. You can't go downtown without. Without ripping and tearing.
Dale Jr.
So how do you manage that? To be able to spend some time
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
with your friends, but also, you know, remain focused on what you got to do that weekend? You got to prioritize your job.
Denny Hamlin
Well, I. Well, you got to go earlier because I told him, those guys, I says, you got me on Thursday night. Thursday night we'll go all night. And we went. When I say all night, I'm talking about Dale Jr. At the house all night. Oh,
Dale Jr.
see the sun come up.
Denny Hamlin
So that was. That was Thursday. Friday, back at Back it way down. Was it Friday, Trav that Me and you Irish goodbye the boys.
Guest or Additional Co-host
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dale Jr.
Travis.
Denny Hamlin
Oh, yeah.
Guest or Additional Co-host
I was, I was.
Dale Jr.
You had enough?
Denny Hamlin
I mean, Travis actually was the one saying, then he got to go to bed. It's time to go to bed. So he was the one pushing me. He really wanted this win really badly.
Guest or Additional Co-host
I saw his whoop score on Friday at lunch and I was like, give me your margarita. You can't have that. We got to get you good.
Dale Jr.
But you need a guy.
Denny Hamlin
I had one. I had one. And so I just put self imposed, you know, bedtimes for myself at, at, at midnight from, you know, Friday on. So that, that was super helpful because. And again, the schedule was one where we didn't even hit the racetrack, you know, till late Saturday. We didn't.
TJ Majors
It's weird.
Denny Hamlin
It's a late. It was a late Sunday start, so it actually, I. People were crapping on the night race. So I'm like, man, it was rather convenient for me in my going out schedule.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah, for sure.
Dale Jr.
So we, we talked about this during
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Ash Ask junior segment on YouTube. But during the. You've. You've been in the broadcast booth, you kind of know what the job is up there. And Evan, we're lucky to be able to talk to the drivers on pace
Dale Jr.
laps before the race.
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And that's kind of the. The time where you're trying to buckle in and Trying to do what you're trying to do. You're trying to think about all the things. You got to get right in the car and talk to your crew chief,
Dale Jr.
and there's a lot to do, and we're.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
We're lucky to get a chance to ask a question or two.
Dale Jr.
And I know you're a gambling guy,
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
so I thought it'd be fun to
Dale Jr.
ask you about what it might take for you to drop shotgun on the field. Do you feel like double a purse?
TJ Majors
I didn't.
Dale Jr.
I was surprised that you shot. Shot so low. I thought double the purse, man, that's not a lot. And I was thinking not so much.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Do you. Do you do. Do you want to rethink your answer?
Dale Jr.
But maybe that's how we get the money in the All Star race. What if. Yeah, what if you said, hey, instead of a million, you're $2 million to
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
start last on the field?
Denny Hamlin
I think it's an absolute fantastic idea. And I, and I think that. I think personally you should ask the. The poll winner that every single week and say, you know, you get 10 extra points, 15 extra points or something, just because what a storyline, right? It's like that person come from the dead last. And, And I know it seemed like, easy. Well, we did it right. We came from last to come back, but we had to have work out just right. I mean, cautions came at the right time. I got the restarts that I needed to at the right time. Our strategy flipped probably five to seven cars that I never had to pass. Never even saw them all day just because I never, you know, I never had to go through them. So things worked out. And so it's. It's very, very against the odds for. For it to happen. So I think it would be a fantastic challenge every week to, to offer some sort of care for someone to. To go to the back and. And give up their number one starting position. And I bet you some people would not do it because. Yeah, because they know that it's just, you know, they're not going to be good enough in traffic or what have you.
TJ Majors
But yeah, would you take points or money? What would be more incentive points? Probably?
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Points.
Denny Hamlin
Points?
TJ Majors
Definitely.
Denny Hamlin
Definitely.
TJ Majors
Yeah.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
So going to Michigan, is that a
Dale Jr.
track where you feel like y' all
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
can continue the advantage that Toyotas have?
Dale Jr.
I'm starting to see, you know, it's odd because we, we talk about how
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
good the Toyota's looked at Charlotte, we
Dale Jr.
go to Nashville, Toyota's look good again. But there was a moment where the 12 got the lead and drove away. The five got the lead, drove away.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
So there's some speed in those cars given the right opportunity.
Dale Jr.
When you go to Michigan, is it
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
a track that, you know, where the, you know, I feel like you're not. You're not maybe going to agree with this, but I feel like y' all have a little bit more of a handle on the body of your car versus the other teams. I think the Fords are at max velocity. I don't know. They got much more, but the Chevrolet's probably have a little bit to figure out on their balance, and once they hit that, it'll be good, but it
Dale Jr.
looks like they're getting closer.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
What do you think?
Denny Hamlin
I would agree with that. I mean, I think that, you know, do I think our cars have more speed than the other manufacturers? I would. I would tell you, no doubt. I don't think there's any doubts in that. I think our box is a little bit bigger and, and you know that, and we know that because it's not like me and Seabell and Briscoe and Ty Gibbs are on the same setups. We're, you know, we're all over the board. But if we're all running in the top five, that tells you that. That our box is a little bit bigger that we're working in. Right. So I, I think that that is the case. I mean, I think that there's. There. It's always been a manufacturer. It's just been a little bit more. I think it's a little more prevalent now right now than it has been in a while. But I also know that, you know, the Chevrolet guys are getting there. It seems like Blaney and then probably the RFK cars are like the, the next, you know, the order, the pecking order of speed when it comes to the Fords. So it's. Yeah, I, I still think that teams are making gains. I. I really feel confident that, you know, and for us, it was. I. I don't know. I don't think anyone regressed this year. I think our jump in the off season just was slightly more than. Than the other manufacturers or the other teams. And so everyone's still making gains. We haven't reached terminal velocity like you talked about with the speed of our cars. We're always still getting a quarter more, a half more of downforce or whatever it might be. And so I agree with you that the other manufacturers still have more to gain. I know they do. They will gain. It's just. Can we continue to hold our Advantage by gaining at the rate that they are. The.
Dale Jr.
The.
Denny Hamlin
The law of averages would say no. Like, we're. We're getting close to our peak, and you would think that they've got the room to go, but we just don't know how this is going to turn out until, you know, months from now.
Dale Jr.
Yep. Well, we're looking forward to the next one at Michigan.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Man, I got a question for you real quick. Go ahead.
TJ Majors
As a driver, your mindset down the front trash. Did your mindset change into turn one whenever you heard you were three y? Because to me, that's a little bit more. Doesn't that make it easier for you as a driver? Because, you know, you know, the 20 has got to keep the 19 from getting on his outside, so that lets you kind of free roll the bottom like.
Denny Hamlin
So I. That I. We had made contact twice. Once was off turn two, where, I mean, it was almost like our damn wheel wells got stuck together. Like it was. We weren't bouncing. It was just like a. We were glued together. And then we did it again off of turn four. And a lot of that came from. I was on the inside. And I'm thinking, all right, let me side draft, pull down and clear, you know, slide them. And I realized pretty quickly, there ain't no way he's going to let me clear him.
TJ Majors
Like, no, you were. You were nose to nose with him.
Denny Hamlin
He was driving in so deep to keep me from clearing him. I says, okay, we're not running optimum lap time at this time. So it's almost like match playing golf. You know, if I shoot a 10 on the hole, it doesn't matter as long as my competition shoots at 11. Like, we're not. It ain't about the lowest score. So on the last lap, I'm thinking, okay, I'm not going to be able to clear them. At best, what I can do is stay beside him. I'm going to run the fastest lap I can on the last lap. And the best way to do that is carve the bottom and don't worry about where he is, where he's at. And I think if I run the optimum corner, the best of my ability, that will give me the best shot to win. And it just so happens 19 gets to the outside. Christopher drives in so deep to make sure it's. I just run a good corner and I'm clear. So it was game over after that.
TJ Majors
Yeah, he shifted his focus from you to the 19, and then that was it from there.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yep, yep. Fantastic stuff, man. Thanks.
Dale Jr.
For the insight, look forward to this weekend in Michigan and we'll see you out there.
Denny Hamlin
All right guys, see ya.
Dale Jr.
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Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
but Denny Hamlin or any other Toyota that you like? Pick your flavor.
Dale Jr.
We're going into Michigan and let's see what the what the line is, what the odds are for race winner obviously.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
TJ they have Denny.
TJ Majors
Yeah.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
At plus 400.
Dale Jr.
Christopher Bell, Tyler Reddick, Kyle Larson, Blaney Briscoe, Byron Ty Gibbs, Chase Elliot, Shane Van Gisbergen.
Guest or Additional Co-host
Well I think that's the books freakin
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
like what in the world. Listen, I love Shane but they got him. They got him as same odds as Busher and host of our. Oh better odds than host of our.
Guest or Additional Co-host
I think the book. That's the book saying people are he's going to win one soon maybe and they don't want to take a big hit.
Dale Jr.
Yeah, well, I.
TJ Majors
It's valid.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah.
Dale Jr.
In terms of top five finish,
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
let's see if we can find some good ones here.
Guest or Additional Co-host
That's top 10, I think you're looking at.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
You're right.
Dale Jr.
Top 10 finish. So for top 10 finish, Denny's at minus 500.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
You don't want to do that. I don't know. You could probably do that.
Dale Jr.
Denny Hamlin does, then he get a top five at Michigan.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
What do you think?
Dale Jr.
Or top ten.
Guest or Additional Co-host
If he gets a top ten, he gets a top five.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Keep saying top five.
Guest or Additional Co-host
I think he's going to be racing for the win.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah.
TJ Majors
I don't. I don't know how. Denny could probably drive the race backwards and finish top 10 at Michigan.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Well, at minus 500, I might throw that in a parlay. In a parlay. Well, that's the only way you're going to do this.
Guest or Additional Co-host
If you did Bell, Hamlin, Redick, you'd get plus money.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah, I like it.
Dale Jr.
I mean, those are the best three. All right.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Who.
Guest or Additional Co-host
Who does this track fit other than Denny?
TJ Majors
I'm here lately. Mine kind of being overshadowed by svg. Eric Jones has been pretty good lately. I mean, he's been in the top. Was he in the top 10 there? Nashville for a while, too?
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah.
TJ Majors
I think he's found something here lately.
Dale Jr.
Eric Jones plus 300 for top 10. I. Honestly, man, I feel like thinking about. Thinking about Michigan and how this track feels, how it drives.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I like the Chevrolet.
Dale Jr.
I think we're going to keep seeing progress. Mark my words.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I know y' all think I'm a
Dale Jr.
Hendrick fanboy, and, yes, I've drove Chevrolet my whole life, but Larson was looking better at Charlotte.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I thought I saw even more improvement in that car speed at Nashville.
TJ Majors
And does William Back bounce back?
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I don't know, man. They're struggling.
TJ Majors
It is. Yeah, they're struggling.
Guest or Additional Co-host
He's the biggest surprise to me this
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year, and they are. I can't. I'm surprised. It's.
Dale Jr.
It's not good.
Guest or Additional Co-host
I would have said he would be top three or four right now in points at the start of the sea. If you ask me.
TJ Majors
Start a season, I think Blaney will be up there.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah.
Dale Jr.
Listen, I think, you know, Denny's gonna run good. Christopher Bell.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
This could be the weekend where he's the.
Dale Jr.
He's the JGR driver that pops off the win.
Guest or Additional Co-host
I think it's got to hit for Bell soon.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah.
Guest or Additional Co-host
Like, I feel like he's just kind of.
TJ Majors
I feel the Same spin right there.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I feel the same way.
TJ Majors
Yeah, I agree.
Guest or Additional Co-host
Yep.
TJ Majors
And he's got speed. He's passing race cars.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah. So I don't know, man. I think Larson wins it.
Dale Jr.
I'm going Larson. I mean, we could sit here and just tic tac back and forth between Denny and Bell all day long, but
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
somebody, you know, we got to get off this island eventually.
Guest or Additional Co-host
And Larson's too good to go. As long as he's gone without.
Dale Jr.
I got Larson to win. I like Larson for a top five at 275. Minus 275 for top 10. Sorry, I keep saying top fives.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I don't know why we're doing top 10 finishes.
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Jerome Davis
I know
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I'm missing that top five column, man.
Dale Jr.
So I'm gonna go Larson to win. I'm going to put a three driver
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
top 10 parlay together with Larson, Christopher Bell.
Jerome Davis
And
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
how do you feel about Chris Busher, tj?
Dale Jr.
How are you guys?
TJ Majors
I feel like. I feel like Chris puts a good race together there. Yeah, I feel like he does. I mean, if I were, to me, my. I would take maybe Bucher. Josevar Jones would be kind of like my. The.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I can't put all three of them in the top 10. I gotta. I'm just gonna pick one of them.
Guest or Additional Co-host
Well, host of our. If you like, host of our Jones. I would just bet them straight up top 10, plus money.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah, I know, but I want more. I'm greedy.
Guest or Additional Co-host
But if you. If you wanted Joseph, our Buscher and Jones.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I don't.
Guest or Additional Co-host
I'm just telling.
TJ Majors
Yeah, yeah. Bet him straight up.
Guest or Additional Co-host
No, I'm telling. It'd be plus 1500. It'd be a good day if it hit right.
TJ Majors
Oh, wow. Okay.
Guest or Additional Co-host
So when Denny went to the back, he'd. His odds were like plus 1200. I know some people jumped on that.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I had a dream last night that I made a bet on an app and won several hundred million dollars. Wasn't that crazy? I did. I literally had that dream last night.
Guest or Additional Co-host
That'd be a hell of a.
TJ Majors
What'd you bet?
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I don't remember.
TJ Majors
That's good. Dang.
Guest or Additional Co-host
It's probably like a 50 leg parlay.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
It was a weird dream. It was a very weird dream.
Dale Jr.
I did. I. It was a single obscure, like, wouldn't
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
happen in a million years bet, and it actually hit.
TJ Majors
Buy some golf clubs for the kids.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
We're set, man.
TJ Majors
We need them, by the way.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Golf clubs.
Guest or Additional Co-host
Yeah.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Our kids are in golf.
TJ Majors
Yeah.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
My TJ and my kids are Going to golf school this week.
TJ Majors
Yeah, they're in golf camp.
Guest or Additional Co-host
Interesting.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yeah.
TJ Majors
Stella comes back, he's like, yeah, you know the sticks? She calls them sticks.
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
TJ Majors
Like, you mean the clubs. Yeah, I just call them sticks. I don't know.
Guest or Additional Co-host
That's.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Some people call them sticks.
Jerome Davis
Yeah.
TJ Majors
Get your sticks, Amy. Amy's like, ours are the only kids that don't have their own clubs.
Denny Hamlin
And I'm like, yeah, well, yeah, because
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Guest or Additional Co-host
You're not buying clubs.
TJ Majors
That's right. Golf is.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Amy sent me a picture and it's like all these boys and they're the only girls.
TJ Majors
Yeah, it was. Yeah, they were all lined up.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Yep. So it's. They saw these little 8, 7, 8, year old boys where their dads are trying to make them the next Tiger Woods.
Jerome Davis
Yeah.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
And then we got our three little girls out there that ever, ever held a golf ball. It just putters they've never even seen. Yeah, they don't even know what a golf ball looks like.
Dale Jr.
No, that's right.
TJ Majors
They liked it, though.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
I mean, yeah, they did have fun. They play tic tac toe chip. Chipping toe.
TJ Majors
Yeah, they were playing. Yeah, that's what Stella said.
Guest or Additional Co-host
That's fun. Anything else here?
Dale Jr.
Well, again, I'm going to do busher.
Co-host (possibly a NASCAR analyst or commentator)
Christopher Bell. Kyle Larson for top 10 parlay. Kyle Larson to win.
Dale Jr.
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Episode: Dale and TJ Clash Over Brad Keselowski & Austin Dillon Wreck
Date: June 2, 2026
Host: Dale Earnhardt Jr. (Dale Jr.)
Co-Host: TJ Majors
Guest(s): Denny Hamlin, Others
Location: Arby’s Studio, Dirty Mo Media
This episode dives deep into the hard-fought NASCAR race at Nashville, focusing on the contentious incident between Brad Keselowski and Austin Dillon. Dale Jr. and his longtime spotter and co-host, TJ Majors, passionately debate the intentions behind the wreck, dissect the technical parity and unpredictability of the Next Gen car, and analyze the championship landscape as the season heats up. Denny Hamlin, fresh off a win, joins for an in-depth debrief, while listener questions and lighthearted off-track moments round out a packed show.
| Segment Description | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------|-------------| | Brake failures and tech talk | 07:01–13:00 | | Tire/Stint Strategy | 15:02–16:34 | | Keselowski–Dillon debate | 19:02–25:05 | | Standings & JGR vs. 23XI analysis | 27:41–36:42 | | Listener Q&A / Old vs New Racing | 39:49–56:53 | | SVG playoff bubble | 48:31–49:55 | | Denny Hamlin interview | 62:35–74:46 | | Michigan betting preview | 76:26–81:44 |
This episode showcases what makes The Dale Jr. Download essential for NASCAR fans: deep technical knowledge, insight into driver and team psychology, honest debate, and a sense of history. The passionate argument over the Keselowski–Dillon incident provides a window into the sport’s intensity, while the evolving championship narrative, technical breakdowns, and Denny Hamlin’s candid reflections offer listeners depth and personality.
If you missed the Nashville race or just want to understand the stories behind the headlines, this episode is as comprehensive and entertaining as it gets.