Dirty Mo Live from Fan Day

Summary

The Dale Jr. Download – “Dirty Mo Live from Fan Day”

Original Air Date: May 23, 2026
Location: Junior Motorsports Fan Day, SiriusXM / Dirty Mo Media
Host: Mike Harmon (with appearances from Hermie Sadler, Jerome & Tiffany Davis, and others)

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Episode Overview

This special episode of The Dale Jr. Download was broadcast live from Junior Motorsports’ Fan Day, capturing the laughter, stories, and camaraderie that define the NASCAR community. Host Mike Harmon is joined by NASCAR legend Hermie Sadler and, later, PBR (Professional Bull Riders) icons Jerome and Tiffany Davis, newly launching their own Dirty Mo Media project. The episode weaves together racing tales, shared hardships, the launch of “This Cowboy Life”, and a lively Q&A with fans, making it a spirited celebration of motorsport and rodeo culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Memories of Making It in Racing

• Hermie Sadler reminisces about his racing roots and financial struggles, including stories about being “broke on his ass” while trying to make it in ASA, supported by his wife’s grandma.
  • “One time, pulled up to a 7-11... reached in there one day and there was no change... all I wanted was a bag of ice. [We] called Kim's grandma and she loaned us like fifteen hundred dollars.” – Hermie Sadler (06:32)
• Importance of repaying debts and staying true to one’s word despite tough times.

Racing Longevity and Legacy

• Hermie answers audience and host questions on his long career, particularly his 547 starts in what’s now the O’Reilly Series.
  • “I'm Jeremy Clements. Jeremy Clements is a wonderful individual... I definitely will hand him the keys over.” – Hermie Sadler (11:33)
• Discussion of being the most prolific starter in the series, while Jeremy Clements prepares to break Hermie’s record.
• Ongoing passion for racing:
  • “I love racing so much, I get emotional. I almost cry. I get goosebumps.” – Hermie Sadler (15:23)
  • Hermie shares dreams of running “one more O’Reilly race,” acknowledging both his own physical limitations and the emotional pull of competition.

Fellowships and Family in NASCAR

• Hermie and hosts reflect warmly on the deep, cross-generational relationships in the racing world:
  • “We both have talked about this before. I was born Rusty's brother. He was born Senior's son, and we can't help it.” – Hermie Sadler (10:44)
• Insights into the Allgar family’s foundational help to the Wallace brothers.

On Air with Fans: Q&A Highlights

Favorite Dirt Tracks

• “Probably Volusia... I was not a dirt racer. I didn't grow up racing dirt, and I had to learn at 40... I won my very first O'Reilly race... at Volusia.” – Hermie Sadler (25:13)

Sibling Dynamics

• No rivalry, only support and love among the Wallace brothers:
  • “When people try to pit me against my brothers, it hurts my heart. We're not like that.” – Hermie Sadler (28:39)

Chili Bowl Memories

• On why Hermie stopped running the Chili Bowl:
  • “It's not my lane. I'm no good at it. I'm a full bodied stock car guy. Stay your lane. I'm not Kyle Larson. He's a gift from God.” – Hermie Sadler (30:15)

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Launching “This Cowboy Life” with Jerome & Tiffany Davis

[34:13] – Major Segment Begins

The Davis Story: PBR and NASCAR Crossroads

• Introduction of Jerome and Tiffany Davis, PBR Hall of Famers, and hosts of the new Dirty Mo Media show “This Cowboy Life” plus a mini docu-series (premiering June 24; podcast launches July 9).
• The couple shares their journey from bull riding arena to podcast mic, including Jerome’s world championship, life-changing accident, and NASCAR’s key role in their recovery and ongoing lives.
  • “When they told Jerome... you're not going to walk again, his response was... ‘Are you saying I can’t ride bulls?’” – Tiffany Davis (38:17)

Dale Earnhardt Sr.’s Kindness

• Dale Sr. personally supports Jerome after his injury, both emotionally and financially (via the Justin Cowboy Crisis Fund).
  • “After the accident, Dale called to check on Jerome and later supported the Justin Cowboy Crisis Fund for injured cowboys.” – Tiffany Davis/Jerome Davis (61:01)

Comparing Bull Riding and Racing

• Community, family, and the importance of perseverance are central themes; parallels and mutual support between bull riders and NASCAR racers highlighted.
  • “He’s a champion... been dealt this card... but you’re doing even better. I love you very much for not folding your cards.” – Hermie Sadler to Jerome and Tiffany Davis (58:54)

Legendary Movie “8 Seconds”

• Jerome Davis reveals he’s actually seen in the movie—a fun, behind-the-scenes tale. He and Tiffany discuss the film’s impact, accuracy, and emotional portrayal of rodeo life.
  • “If you look really hard, I got a big nose. You can see it in that movie.” – Jerome Davis (43:37)
  • “After the movie, [Lane Frost's mom] realized it was all God’s hand... it brought a lot of sons and dads back together.” – Tiffany Davis (44:37)

The Heart of Rodeo in NC

• Discovering the unexpected depth of the bull riding scene in North Carolina. Tales of the Davis Rodeo Ranch (“Wild West Wednesdays”) and the colorful local tradition of community bull riding with 1,500–2,000 fans weekly.
  • “North Carolina is the belt... of the bull riders and the stock contractors and stuff.” – Tiffany Davis (47:30)

Origins of the PBR

• Jerome recounts scraping together the now-famous $1,000 investment (with only $500 at first) to become a founding investor in the PBR, which later blossomed into a national sports force.
  • “They were asking me for $1,000 to start the PBR, and I didn’t have it. I got 500, and I got some good bulls in California next week… that’s how it worked.” – Jerome Davis (49:16)

Wild Tales from Life on the Road

• From accidental crowd gatherings due to schoolyard fights arranged at rodeos to heartfelt community moments—life at the Davis ranch is never dull.
  • “The kids at the school had lined up a fight and they were going to fight at the rodeo that night.” – Jerome Davis (55:31)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Family in Racing:
  “You can’t apologize for being born. You make the most of it. Stay humble. And I love my brother. I thank him all the time.” – Hermie Sadler (11:14)

• On True Passion:
  “Every time they get in that shoot and nod their head, there’s a chance of them not getting out of the arena.” – Tiffany Davis (38:29)

• On Faith and Community:
  “Things happen for a reason... it brought a lot of sons and dads back together.” – Tiffany Davis on “8 Seconds” (44:37)

• On Dale Sr.’s Generosity:
  “Dale started the Justin Cowboy Crisis Fund. People didn’t know that, but he did. He would give to it every year for rodeo cowboys that got hurt.” – Jerome Davis (61:01)

• On Staying Competitive:
  “You walk it, too. We go to… we got lots of trophy. That’s right. Back it up.” – Hermie Sadler (48:25)

• On Building Dreams:
  “Guess what he did with that money. He built an arena in his front yard.” – Mike Harmon (50:39)

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Important Timestamps

• 06:32 – Hermie Sadler’s “broke on his ass” roots story
• 09:47 – On growing up amongst racing legends and knowing a young Dale Jr.
• 11:33–12:41 – Jeremy Clements poised to break Hermie’s O’Reilly starts record
• 15:23 – Racing passion and the emotional cost of loving the sport
• 25:13 – Hermie’s favorite dirt track revealed in fan Q&A
• 34:13 – Introduction of Jerome & Tiffany Davis and “This Cowboy Life”
• 38:17–40:13 – Story of Dale Earnhardt Sr.’s support for Jerome Davis
• 43:37–44:37 – Confessions about “8 Seconds” and its effect on the community
• 47:12–47:30 – The rich rodeo scene in North Carolina discussed
• 49:09 – How Jerome raised seed money for PBR
• 55:31 – Wild story: School fight at the Davis rodeo
• 58:54 – Hermie’s emotional tribute to the Davises’ perseverance
• 61:01 – Dale Sr.’s charitable legacy for injured cowboys
• 62:09 – Show closes with gratitude and celebration

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Additional Notes

• The episode features lively banter, a friendly tone, and constant audience engagement.
• The transition between racing and bull riding cultures showcases the shared spirit of grit and family.
• The Dirty Mo team encourages listeners and attendees to follow “Dirty Mo Rodeo” on YouTube for the Davis docu-series and future podcasts.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode of The Dale Jr. Download is a heartfelt, high-energy celebration of motorsport and cowboy culture. It bridges NASCAR and rodeo through personal stories, reflections on legacy, and the ever-present bonds of family and community. It’s both a look back on hard-won successes and a look forward, celebrating new chapters for beloved personalities—reminding us that true passion, persistence, and kindness endure across all walks of life.

Transcript

[Dale Earnhardt Jr.]

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[Mike Harmon]

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[Hermie Sadler]

Arby's is the easiest sponsor of my life because I go to Arby's all the time. And, you know, I try to. I try to look good, so I try to keep my fat intake down. And I get that turkey, you know, with the bacon, but I take the bacon off because I don't. I don't need the bacon. And. But I do cheat. And I get potato cakes because I love them potato cakes. And then I get half and half tea. My daughter taught me that. Cut down on my sugar. So if you want healthy food, go to Arby's. They got a great menu.

[Mike Harmon]

Yeah, he's not paid to do this, but he just does it so dang well. In fact, I want to tell you something. When we talked about Kenny Wallace being here for fan day, man, I got excited because I'll tell you what, do you guys agree with me? Any day with Kenny Wallace is a better day without it, Right? Am I. Am I right? When I get on there and I see him, he'll do his. I'm gonna do it with the Arby's cup. And he's like, he. He puts this thing right up to his mouth, his coffee cup, and he's got that no go thing right there. I'm telling you, he's a sponsor's dream.

[Hermie Sadler]

And.

[Mike Harmon]

And he's just doing his natural thing because like you told me today, you're going to drink three cups of coffee every morning. You might as well just go ahead and make a video from it, right?

[Hermie Sadler]

Yeah. My. I love it because Mike says you're so consistent. I said, you know, Mike, I don't care where I'm at. If I'm on a cruise ship, me and my buddy Eddie Balcovic, we're going to drink coffee every single morning of my life. Might as well pull my cell phone out.

[Mike Harmon]

That's right. Hey, listen.

[Hermie Sadler]

Yeah.

[Mike Harmon]

They tell us we're live on Sirius XM right now. So I want to give a shout out to everybody listening on Sirius XM, NASCAR, Channel 90.

[Jerome Davis]

We're.

[Mike Harmon]

We love you guys. Thank you. Be safe. If you're driving, we're going to do a lot of things up here. You just going to have to imagine some of the visuals that Kenny Wallace is doing, like the Ric Flair thing, you know, what we're talking about. But we got a beautiful audience here today at Junior Motorsports Fan day. You agree?

[Hermie Sadler]

I do. And, boy, we are blessed with great weather, as they would say in the northeast. It's a steamer. It's hot out. But I, you know, it's been a long winter, and, you know, winter six months long. Did you all realize that? You know, when you Stop and think about, oh, it's hot. It's hot. It's kind of six and six. So I'm glad for winter to be gone.

[Mike Harmon]

Did you just say it was six months long? That does not seem accurate.

[Hermie Sadler]

Okay, what is winter when I. In September, so September, October, November, December, January, February. Well, how long do you think winter is?

[Mike Harmon]

Well, it feels like you're dipping in a little into the fall on the front end.

[Hermie Sadler]

Yeah, well, I only went 1 through 12. I'm not really super smart.

[Mike Harmon]

It's Kenny math. Hey, Kenny, math is good math. I like that. Hey, we got a bunch of people here today. I want this crowd to hear me on this. If you got something you want to ask the hermanator right here, by all means. We got open mics. I want to encourage you guys to do that. I've got questions for it, too. We got the algar sitting on the front row. Kenny.

[Hermie Sadler]

I've got.

[Mike Harmon]

I've got nervous all of a sudden.

[Hermie Sadler]

You have no idea how much I love those two. You know, we're. We're maybe 100 miles separated. You know, I'm down there in St. Louis there, and the land of Lincoln, Springfield, Illinois. But I love them very much. Without those two, Rusty Wallace would have never made it. And then, of course, because Rusty made it, then I made it. So.

[Jerome Davis]

Yeah.

[Hermie Sadler]

Thank you to Mike and Dorothy Allgar.

[Mike Harmon]

Yeah, y' all are legends.

[Hermie Sadler]

Yeah.

[Mike Harmon]

And your son is pretty good, too. That guy can win. He can wheel a race car. Can he, Kenny?

[Hermie Sadler]

You know, Justin is like fine wine. I find that the older Justin gets, he gets better. You know, Mike and Dorothy own. Own Hoosier tire Midwest, now he's got a big parts company. And Rusty and Paul Andrews, we had a company called poor boy chassis. We would build leaf spring dirt cars, and we'd give them to Mike, and Mike would sell them throughout the United States. And when we were broke on our ass, that man right there put a nickel in our pocket. So it goes pretty deep. You know, that's the thing about sports. We can pass each other in the nascar. Like Mark Martin. I mean, Mark Martin drives up my driveway, Right? That's because, you know, we're such good friends, but you don't know it because NASCAR is so competitive that we just pass each other in the garage area.

[Mike Harmon]

Yeah.

[Hermie Sadler]

So, yeah, they're family. All guys are family. And same thing with Mark. Mark the kid Martin out of Batesville, Arkansas.

[Mike Harmon]

Were you ever really broke on your ass?

[Hermie Sadler]

Oh, God, yes.

[Mike Harmon]

Okay. All right.

[Hermie Sadler]

One time, pulled up to a 7 11. Hey, 7 11s are making a comeback, by the way. I see that I pull up to a 711 in my 1976 GMC pickup truck. Had a little, you know, like a little deal here. And I'd always reach in there and get change. I reached in there one day and there was no change. I remember I had no money in the checking account and all I wanted was a bag of ice. So, you know, because I was trying to make it in ASA and I. That's a pivotal point in my life. I went, I mean, I'm broke. Like, unreal. Kim's working at a cafeteria. I'm repairing vacuum cleaners. And I think what we did is we called Kim's grandma and she loaned us like fifteen hundred dollars. Years later, when I made, I went to pay back Edna, Edna Pool. I went to pay her back the money. She looked at me, she says, you will not pay that fifteen hundred dollars back because you offered to pay it back. And nobody has ever paid me back. So. Because I was good to my word, that lady helped save Kim and I's life.

[Mike Harmon]

That's awesome.

[Hermie Sadler]

But always pay your debt off, no matter how long it is, and they'll love you.

[Mike Harmon]

Listen, there's a couple questions I do want to ask you and I do also want to encourage, you know, some questions, if there are any from the fans here because again, they're the best looking fans I've ever seen. So listen, you are Mr. O'Reilly series and you know why you are?

[Hermie Sadler]

I don't know.

[Mike Harmon]

Tell me, how many starts did you have in the O'Reilly series? I'll tell you how many starts it was. I think it had five different titles, sponsors during your course, how many starts?

[Hermie Sadler]

547. And Gator and myself, we talked about this and then, you know, we had Justin on Kenny conversation. Yeah, it's. It's been a hell of a career. Now, listen, I tell everybody I wasn't great. I was good. And I don't compare myself to anybody that is great in nascar, but I'm very humbled. I was lucky to make it, you know, nine Xfinity wins. That was. But listen, it was all good and I stayed in the game. And then, of course, 347 cup starts. 11, so total of 905.

[Mike Harmon]

And you're still racing?

[Hermie Sadler]

I'm still racing.

[Mike Harmon]

How many races do you think you've done in your life?

[Hermie Sadler]

Thousands.

[Mike Harmon]

Oh, for sure, thousands. You almost got a thousand just in NASCAR.

[Hermie Sadler]

Well, 905 NASCAR races. And then we ran ASA for three years, so hundreds there, and I'm well over a thousand. In dirt racing, we don't. We don't try to do this. It's life.

[Mike Harmon]

Yeah.

[Hermie Sadler]

It's like you're. You know, it's like, I know your story. I guarantee you, when you was working for Jimmy Spencer, you didn't think you'd be running one of the greatest shows of all time. Dirty mo media. Here you are. Same with me.

[Mike Harmon]

Not that I'd be at a junkyard or in Pennsylvania or somewhere in trouble with Jimmy.

[Hermie Sadler]

You mess with the bull, you get the horns.

[Mike Harmon]

That's right. Jimmy Spencer never forgets Mr.

[Hermie Sadler]

Assignment. Yeah.

[Mike Harmon]

God love him.

[Hermie Sadler]

I, growing up in St. Louis, you know, I would. I would see Richard Petty, Kale, Yarborough, David Pearson, and that was like. That was too far away. I would never know those people. They're too famous.

[Mike Harmon]

Yeah.

[Hermie Sadler]

Like, if I saw them, I'd be speechless. And so to be Kyle Petty's friend and to see Richard and to know Dale Junior, Dale Junior's relationship and myself is crazy. Maybe three miles from here. Junior's just a kid, and we're both racing slot cars up here at. What was it? The race car driver forgot his name, but we're racing slot cars, so I've known Junior way before he was a race car driver. So when he became famous, I walked in Dale Junior's motorhome, and I just looked at him. It's one of those moments. I said, wow, you're really famous. Kind of a fun thing. And Junior had the best response. I know he's over signing autographs. He looked at me and. And his take was brilliant. He goes, I can't help it. You know, that's a.

[Mike Harmon]

That's also a flex, I think. I can't help it. I'm just famous.

[Hermie Sadler]

Well, listen, we both have talked about this before. I was born Rusty's brother. He was born Senior's son, and we can't help it.

[Mike Harmon]

Yeah.

[Hermie Sadler]

You know, I mean, without our brothers or without our dads, it's like the Andrettis, you know, these people wouldn't be where they're at. So when people say to me, you wouldn't be where yet without your brother, you know, I say. I say, and you wouldn't be born without your mom or dad.

[Mike Harmon]

That's true.

[Hermie Sadler]

We can go as deep as you want to go.

[Mike Harmon]

Well, I just started a podcast called Sons and Daughters on that same premise, so I agree with that 100%.

[Hermie Sadler]

You can't apologize for being born.

[Mike Harmon]

That's right.

[Hermie Sadler]

You make the most of it. Stay humble. And I love my brother. I thank him all the time.

[Mike Harmon]

But here's what I want to get back to. How important you had the most starts or have the Most starts in O'Reilly series history. Is that. Is that right?

[Hermie Sadler]

Yes. I'm.

[Mike Harmon]

There's. There's somebody that's on your tail.

[Hermie Sadler]

Yeah. I'm Jeremy Clements. Jeremy Clements is a wonderful individual with a great family. I know the Clements for building. Gator knows this. The Clements built the world's greatest dirt racing motors. It's like, hold on, Clements Motors. That's Jeremy. So when you get shocked and you're like the kid Jeremy is dad. I mean, and Jeremy plays it down because I had him on Kenny Conversation on Dirty Mo Media podcast. But it is amazing that he is going to break my record. They're wanting to fly me out to Colorado or no, San Diego. What's that called? Coronado.

[Mike Harmon]

Coronado. Coronado. Yeah.

[Hermie Sadler]

They want me to go out there. And I do want to go out there, but we've got Rusty's place rented in Cabo. And I said, listen, you tell my wife, so we'll see what happens. But I definitely want to congratulate Jeremy. I definitely will hand him the keys over.

[Mike Harmon]

They want to. They want you to go to San Diego because that's where he's going to end up becoming the most starts in O'Reilly history. That's where he's. Or is he going to tie your record that week?

[Hermie Sadler]

He's going to break it.

[Mike Harmon]

He's going to break it that week. And they want you there just to kind of be an honorary.

[Hermie Sadler]

I'm at 547. He's going to be at 548 out there. And it's a big deal.

[Mike Harmon]

It's a big deal. But here's my. Here's something I want to ask you.

[Hermie Sadler]

Yeah.

[Mike Harmon]

You're still racing.

[Hermie Sadler]

Yeah.

[Mike Harmon]

And I know a building behind me that has some. Some cars. Do you know where I'm going with this?

[Hermie Sadler]

You have no idea how deep I can go.

[Mike Harmon]

I call you could start adding to your total again. Hey, it's a race with the Clements.

[Hermie Sadler]

Let me tell you something.

[Mike Harmon]

I got people cheering for this right now. Getting back in the O'Reilly series. Mr. O'Reilly series belongs back in the O'Reilly series.

[Hermie Sadler]

Okay. Now I'm jacked up on Sundrop. Let me tell you the story. We all have dreams. Like, my dreams are real. I don't know about you all, and I dream that I'm at Richmond and I'm trying to run one more O'Reilly race. So I called Dale Junior and I said, Junior, I said, Help. I got to run one more race. And he talked me out of it, and he says, no, you're going to run. You're going to run my cars tour. So we do it. We put it together. We get rained out up at Tri county, and. And I go run South Boston. And so if I could ever run, I mean, I would get ready.

[Mike Harmon]

Well, here's what you got to do. Go to San Diego, make the Clements think you're going out there to hand the keys, but start the race.

[Hermie Sadler]

Ladies and gentlemen, I'm here to run one more O'Reilly race. And then. But no, that's a look.

[Mike Harmon]

Start, start, and park. You just get to start. Think that's all you have to do.

[Hermie Sadler]

You know what? That is such a call it. Scrambled eggs. It's. My head's full of scrambled eggs right now. You know, we all want to run one more time. You know, and I hate to keep talking about Junior, but we do. We do communicate. When we communicate, it's about heartfelt things because he's a sweetheart. But, you know, you watch Junior go to Nashville and run one more late model stock race. You know, you watch Clint Bowyer run one more truck race. You watch Harvick run one more truck race, and it's like, Damn, they're running 15th. You know, I want to race, but I know. I know that I could go and I could probably be competitive, but, man, this right shoulder of mine, I got. I got two torn tendons. 80%. My last O'Reilly race at Iowa, we get about lap 250 of a 300. I'm rotating down into turn one, and my shoulders start hurting really bad. It didn't show up at. At that night at South Boston two years ago, I think, because I had better power steering.

[Mike Harmon]

Well, that would help.

[Hermie Sadler]

But, yeah, I mean, I dream of always running a couple more NASCAR races because I love racing so much. My problem is I love racing so much, I get emotional. I almost cry. I get goosebumps. Hell, Rusty shed tears yesterday. His boy went to YouTube and brought up Rusty's win at Wilkesboro, where he popped Bodine in the ass because Bodine popped him in the ass. I looked over, and Rusty's eyes were watering because he was so young. And Rusty's like, damn. And that's what happens to the athletes.

[Dale Earnhardt Jr.]

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[Mike Harmon]

You know what? I want to take a moment here and give you a lot of credit. And. And also another gentleman who I wish he was here, and that's Mr. Ken Schrader.

[Hermie Sadler]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike Harmon]

So listen, one of the blessings in my life is that we get to publish a show called Herman Schrader every single week. Where this is just. I never take it for granted because you and Schrader together, y' all are still racing. You're still getting after. In fact, you were just in a gnarly wreck.

[Hermie Sadler]

Yeah.

[Mike Harmon]

A week or two ago, right?

[Hermie Sadler]

Yeah.

[Mike Harmon]

So, like, in. In Ken's up in Canada right now.

[Hermie Sadler]

Yeah.

[Mike Harmon]

Is that right?

[Hermie Sadler]

Yeah. Kenny Schrader's got a book out. It's called Gotta Race, and it's so accurate. I know Kenny Schrader better than anybody, except Ann. And Kenny will get depressed, like, if he's somewhere he doesn't want to be. Like, we got to the very end of the Kyle Petty charity ride. We're doing good deeds. We're raising $2 million for the victory Junction Gang camp. And I could tell Schrader was getting depressed, and I knew what that meant. He has got a weird situation going on in his brain that if he's not at a racetrack, he gets sad, gets weird. And he knows this. I tease him about it all the time. And Anne's like, oh, yeah, he can smell the racetrack. It's. He run home so he could get in the holler and drive 20 hours up to Oshweakin and, you know, to all these racetracks, but he's got a race.

[Mike Harmon]

Did you ever think that you and him would be doing a podcast together?

[Hermie Sadler]

Never in a million years. You started that.

[Mike Harmon]

But when you do a podcast with him and you just wind him up and let him go, like, what's going on in your head?

[Dale Earnhardt Jr.]

He.

[Hermie Sadler]

Kenny, does not want to burn any bridges. Me, I'll. You know, and I told you this earlier, brother Rusty says it best. You know, I'm controversial, but Rusty says, herman, you take the knife and you. You know, you poke the skin, but you never draw blood. Kenny Schrader has some of the greatest stories, and when I can pull those out of him, I feel like it's a victory.

[Mike Harmon]

Yeah.

[Hermie Sadler]

So leave it up to me to make the controversial statements. Leave it up to Schrader to tell some of the greatest stories in NASCAR history.

[Jerome Davis]

Yeah.

[Hermie Sadler]

But to pull a controversial subject out of Schrader, he's such a quality human being that he doesn't want to hurt NASCAR's feelings. He doesn't want to hurt anybody's feelings. I'm like, fine, I'll hurt their feelings because they hurt my feelings my whole life. You know, people talk crap about me my whole life. So it's game on.

[Mike Harmon]

Listen, I just want to say, and I think our friends right here in the audience would join me in saying thank you for what you and Herm do or you and Schrader do every week for us. And also the fact that you are still getting after it. Well, listen, you guys are our heroes. I grew up. Listen, my. I grew up in 90s NASCAR, right?

[Jerome Davis]

Yeah.

[Mike Harmon]

I was at the Talladega race in the stands when you and you pushed Big E that way. I was in the grandstands as a fan, and I'm sitting here on a stage with you, and it's just such an honor. But you and Schrader, every single week, we get to listen and tap into your worlds because you allow us.

[Hermie Sadler]

So thank you. Thank you. That's very nice of you. You know, he likes to race everywhere, so it's getting difficult right now. And I think we got to buy him a Starlink because.

[Mike Harmon]

Oh, we got to get him some Internet that.

[Hermie Sadler]

This past show was brutal. You know, we're losing him because he's on the road and he. He's not going to quit racing to do Herman Schrader.

[Jerome Davis]

Right.

[Hermie Sadler]

So we need to call Elon Musk and get a free star link. So Schrader has full time wi fi because I take my hell. I go to Rusty's, I go to my mom's, I got my little bag, you know, and we're gonna. We're gonna do Harmon Schrader come hell or high water.

[Mike Harmon]

Yeah. No matter where we're at, you guys are awesome. Listen, in a second, I got some people that I want to introduce to you guys and also to. To Herm here. But before we get into that, is there anybody here that would like to ask. Yeah, we got somebody here. Alex Tims. Is there a microphone? Yeah, they're getting a microphone dialed in. Speak. Tell us your name and where you're from, and let's get to these for a few minutes, and if we don't get to you right now, we'll get to you at the end of the show. Here we go.

[Jerome Davis]

Tom Lund, Stony Point, North Carolina, via North Dakota.

[Mike Harmon]

Right on.

[Jerome Davis]

I have my favorite dirt tracks. Grew up racing dirt tracks in North Dakota. What's yours?

[Hermie Sadler]

That's a great question. It would probably be Volusia. And I raced all over north and South Dakota. The reason Volusia is because it's heartfelt. I was not a dirt racer. I didn't grow up racing dirt, and I had to learn it at 40. I started dirt racing at 44 years old. And the only place I could learn to get my reps in was speed weeks at Volusia. So eight years ago, we would run eight nights in a row and, you know, and I won my very first O'Reilly race when it was asphalt at Volusia. So I won my very first NASCAR O'Reilly race there when it was asphalt with Bobby Labani and all, you know, the Burtons. And so many years later, I'm like, they put dirt on it. And I went back there before the Gator. They had an eagle and I won. So it's Volusia. It's very heartfelt for me.

[Mike Harmon]

Yeah, it's a good one. There was some other. Here, Alex. Oh, the Gator. He's like, does he owe you money?

[Hermie Sadler]

I owe him a lot of money, actually. No, he doesn't, but. But I'd like to hear your favorite David IFT Toucan story. Oh, my. This is great.

[Mike Harmon]

All right, tell us who this is.

[Hermie Sadler]

Okay, so David Iftt is a legendary gold wrench crew chief. Why his name does not come up anymore. So if you look through the archives of nascar, David Ift is another Ray Evernham. David Iftt is another Tim Brewer, one of the great crew chief, took Careborough to a lot of wins. MC Anderson. Guys, I'm going on 63. I don't know NASCAR like Junior, but David Ift when I moved out of St. Louis and we put together Rusty. If it weren't for Rusty, I wouldn't be where I'm at. I love my brothers Rusty and Mike. So David Ift down in Lake Wylie puts together this bush grand national team for me, and he says, I got a crew member. We got a hire. His name's Toucan. I'm saying, what's his real name? It's Jim Murray. So Toucan loves his Coors Light. And the reason he got the nickname Toucan was because they're out there in Ontario, California. And Toucan's driving the MC Anderson Cale Yarborough, number 27. And he's hauling the race car out there and back. And all the team members are like, toucan, bring some Coors Light back. Because they didn't have Coors Light here. It was, you know, a Colorado thing. He got cases and when he came back, he only had two. Two cans of Coors Light left. It broke apart in the trailer. He was trying to save it and the crews were just devastated because you could only get Coors Light out there. And so his nickname forever was toucan. Toucan is 88 years old. Great timing because there was a picture just posted on Facebook. He's still. He's working for Richie Waters on the lathe. And yeah, if it weren't for David if and Toucan, you know, we sit on a pole my first time to Daytona, 192.7 and a cheated up Pontiac

[Mike Harmon]

Grand Prix, I believe it.

[Hermie Sadler]

And that was Toucan. And so, yeah, they are. They define my career, those two do. And, you know, we forget about things. But thank you for bringing it up. Gator.

[Mike Harmon]

Oh, Alex, back here. I want to know what your brothers are doing.

[Hermie Sadler]

Like Steven Wallace and Mike Wallace. Great question. I've already told everybody how much I love my brothers. We have no sibling rivalry. We love each other very much. I think it's very important to tell everybody. When people try to hit me against my brothers, it hurts my heart. We're not like that. We don't have a sibling rivalry. I seek attention. That's always been like that. But that's on me. I don't want their attention. I just want to be part of the family. Brother Rusty, I just saw him yesterday. He's got all the money he needs. He owns 11 dealerships in Knoxville, Tennessee. So what Rusty enjoys doing now is raising money for the NASCAR Foundation. And then out there in Sturgis, he gives away money out there for special needs. So Rusty, all he does is raise money. Brother Mike, he makes money on land himself. He go to county courthouse steps and bids on buildings and buys buildings for nothing and fixes them up, makes money. But that's what they're both up to. And right across the road here, they're building the best motorcycles in the world. It's called Southern Country Customs. And Rusty is doing that with Stephen Wallace. So hopefully that helps you.

[Mike Harmon]

Yeah, great question. One more before I bring up some special guests. Right over here. Alex is. I don't know where I. Abigail's got it right here.

[Hermie Sadler]

Hey, I'm Kate from Enid, Oklahoma.

[Mike Harmon]

Oklahoma. Right on, buddy.

[Hermie Sadler]

Oh, yeah.

[Mike Harmon]

But so I watched the Chili bowl every year. Why don't you race the Chili bowl anymore? Why don't you race the Chili Bowl?

[Hermie Sadler]

So, okay, I restored everything. I won three of seven races at Volusia. Tony Stewart came down and said, herman, the first win, I thought, okay, the second one, the third win, Tony Stewart came to me and he said, you're not a true dirt racer until you run the Chili Bowl. So I ran the Chili bowl, but I only made it to the J Main. So I saw slamming Sammy Swindell. And Sammy says, you ain't got any business being here. I said, you're right, Sammy. But Tony Stewart made me come here. And I. And I was so excited to run down there. Turn the fuel on, flip the ignition. Ignition switch. I love the Chili Bowl. I just promoted the 40th annual Chili Bowl. I go down there, all the open wheel people are my friends. The Blaney's, the boats, you know, Priority Aviation. I love open Wheel. They're my family. They sponsor me. Priority Aviation. So you know Ricky Stenhouse. So the reason I don't run the Chili bowl is it's not my lane. I'm no good at it. I'm a full bodied stock car guy. Stay your lane. I'm not Kyle Larson. He's a gift from God. Not everybody can be like Kyle Larson. Does that answer your question?

[Mike Harmon]

But there are a lot of people out there that aren't Kyle Larson. They're still in the race.

[Hermie Sadler]

Yeah. And I went to the Chili Boat, but, you know, I. I need a lot more reps, you know, and. And Kim hurt. Tony Stewart stops at my house because he. He's gonna buy it at a moment. And so we're talking about Tony Stewart. You know, it's like 10 years ago. And it's funny, Tony says, okay, you got to run the Chili Bowl. I look at my wife, her nose, her nostrils start flaring.

[Mike Harmon]

Yeah, she's looking like that.

[Hermie Sadler]

She's like, I see those open wheel cars flip. That's what they do. They just flip.

[Mike Harmon]

They are nuts.

[Hermie Sadler]

And. And Kim's like, you are not gonna get my husband hurt. So it was Tony's job to keep me.

[Mike Harmon]

Yeah.

[Hermie Sadler]

In lane.

[Tiffany Davis]

Yeah.

[Mike Harmon]

Listen, I think I'm just going to go all in on this campaign to get you another O'Reilly start. That's what. Would Kim be on board with that?

[Hermie Sadler]

Oh, she going to have to be on board.

[Mike Harmon]

Yeah, I know there's not ever going to happen.

[Hermie Sadler]

If I could run one more O'Reilly race, I'd be jacked up on Sundrop.

[Mike Harmon]

He'd be dragged up on Sundrop.

[Hermie Sadler]

I would be.

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a special treat for you guys. I am so excited about what's to happen next. Now I don't know if you guys caught this, but we announced yesterday that we're starting another new show at Dirty Mo and this is with not racing. This is in the world of bull riding. And we are in the presence of legends.

[Hermie Sadler]

Yes, we are.

[Mike Harmon]

And we also have Jerome Davis. Now, the legend right here is Tiffany Davis.

[Hermie Sadler]

Yes, yes.

[Mike Harmon]

But Jerome Davis, come here. I'm going to give them a round

[Hermie Sadler]

of applause here, Stan. I mean, the man.

[Mike Harmon]

This is a hall of famer. These are awesome people, Jerome. And you got here. We're going to put this on you and I'm just going to brag on you just for the next half hour. Jerome, are you able. I don't know what. I don't know what the rule is for cowboys about their hats and headphones. Is that right? Okay, they discussed it. Herm, let me tell you something real quick. And then I'm going to let you loose on this.

[Hermie Sadler]

Yep.

[Mike Harmon]

I met so Austin Dylan, who we both know, he is the general manager of a team called the Carolina Cowboys. Now, I don't know if I am so new to bull riding, but Austin and I started talking about the pbr. Richard Childress owns this team. And Austin's like, you need to come to an event. So I went to an event. Me and Colby Bass went up there and we watched. It was at Madison Square Garden and they're loading these bulls in five levels up. And we were just like blown away by this. Well, in the corner of our eye, we're watching these bull riders on it, go on it. And in the corner of our eye, we see this blonde lady and her husband. And I could just see the entire PBR series just reacts to them. There's just this influence. There's this thing. And I'm like, who are they? That's the Davis's. That's Jerome Davis. Jerome Davis is a legend. And by the way, had a relationship with Dale Earnhardt, friends with Bobby Lobani. And I'm like, there's so much NASCAR cross section here. I got to meet them. Turns out they live an hour away from here, Herm. An hour. And they have a Davis Rodeo Ranch where they have bucking bulls. They breed them, they raise them, they get loose. Sometimes they get out of the gates, they chase them in the middle of the night. You got to follow their social medias. It is hysterical. And I said, I got to do it. I realized I started off going, I need to do a podcast with these bull riders. And then I quickly go, now they're the podcast. I need the Davis. So, ladies and gentlemen, welcome again Jerome and Tiffany Davis, the new host of this Cowboy Life, which I think I've got them dialed in. When does it start?

[Tiffany Davis]

Jerome, you want me to do this or you got this?

[Jerome Davis]

You better do this.

[Mike Harmon]

We're still working our talking points.

[Tiffany Davis]

So you. You've got. They've worked this team. Guys, we could not be more blessed with Dirty Mo Media coming to us. We were like, wow. If we were, we'd never even thought about doing podcasts. Everybody used to say, you only do a reality show. I'm like, I ain't doing a reality show. Well, then Mike come to us about the podcast. I was like, I don't know, but we fell in love with you guys. This dirty My media team here and the whole group, y' all are awesome.

[Mike Harmon]

Thank you.

[Tiffany Davis]

So anyways, what they started out, they said, we're not just going to start out with a podcast. We want to do a little mini docu series. They going Hollywood it up. So they wanted to tell our story.

[Hermie Sadler]

She talks like me.

[Tiffany Davis]

So they're going to start out with a mini docu series to kind of tell our story. Whether it's good or bad, I don't know. You're going to find out. But it starts June 24th. That's the first one. And then it'll roll three days in a row. 24th. 25th. 26th. All right, Joe, I'm putting you on the spot. So when is the first talk show podcast you got this drone?

[Jerome Davis]

June the ninth. July the ninth.

[Tiffany Davis]

July the night.

[Jerome Davis]

July the ninth.

[Tiffany Davis]

It starts with a J and the

[Jerome Davis]

N. They all run together.

[Mike Harmon]

It all runs together. So that's right. You. We're going to have a three part docu series just so you guys can know their story. It is an amazing story. Listen, Jerome was a bull riding world champion. World champion. He has an accident in 1998. As you were just saying about when race car drivers, you know, when this is all they know, you and you and Schrader, when Trader doesn't have a racetrack, what does a bull rider do without the bull?

[Jerome Davis]

Right.

[Mike Harmon]

And when they told Jerome about you're not going to walk again, his response was, what?

[Tiffany Davis]

Yeah. The doctor come in and they said, you know, we got bad news. And they was looking at them. They said, sir, you know, you're. You're paralyzed. You're not going to be able to walk again. And Jerome's looking at the doctor. He says, are you saying I can't ride bulls?

[Hermie Sadler]

That's.

[Tiffany Davis]

That was his response. That's how much he loved it. And I'm not playing because I was standing right there thinking, this kid ain't got a clue. He's not going to be able to walk. And he's worried about riding bulls. Because I remember when you first in the hospital, he was thinking, well, I'm going to be out the rest of the weekend. It still hadn't hit him. That's. That's how much he loved it. And that's how all bull riders are. I say this isn't a sport they do for a hobby or just cause it's fun. They have to have that passion and love for it. Because every time they get in that shooting nod their head, there's chance of them not getting out of the arena.

[Mike Harmon]

Jerome. Jerome, tell us the story you were watching in the hospital. A race. And then. But. And then your pal Bobby Labonte. Tell us the story.

[Jerome Davis]

So I'd met Bobby, him and Terry. I'd hung out at Charlotte with him just a little bit because there was a guy, an agent I had that kind of knew him. So I got to know him through them. And Bobby had a shop right there in Trinity, which is near where I live in Archdale. So we had stopped by and talked to Bobby. So I kind of knew Bobby a little bit. And so the next day, I got hurt on a Friday, Saturday, I'm watching the race.

[Tiffany Davis]

We're in Fort Worth, Texas.

[Jerome Davis]

We're in Fort Worth. I'm laid up in the hospital. And I'm watching this race because, I mean, I'm a fan. I watch racing. I grew up in North Carolina. That's what we do. So I was watching the race on TV and I kept telling. I said, tiff, Bobby's got a shot to win this thing. And I kept watching it. Kept watching it. Well, then at the end of the race that day, Bobby, they're on there, interview him, he wins the race. And he said. He said, I got a friend of mine that had an accident. And he said, I told my wife, before I run this race today, whatever we won in this race, I'm going to give it to my friend Jerome Davis, that ass. You know, and. And I thought, whoa, you know what I mean?

[Tiffany Davis]

Jerome was hitting me. He's like, did you just hear what he just said?

[Jerome Davis]

He did. It was like over $50,000 that he gave me. And you know, NASCAR, they're all.

[Tiffany Davis]

But he didn't stop after that. Bobby stayed connected. Well, all of NASCAR did. Because at the time, it's hard to get insurance if you're a bull rider. You know, nobody wants to insure a bull rider. So the PBR, their insurance tapped out like 20,000 or something. After that, we were on our Own. So. But Jerome, when you get to know Jerome, you do love him. Like, he. He's a good guy. I don't think he's got an enemy in the world.

[Hermie Sadler]

No.

[Tiffany Davis]

And so they started doing these fundraisers, and the bull riders were donating stuff for fundraisers. But back home, when they would do them, all the NASCAR community come together. And the NASCAR people were awesome about all the things they donated and by the bull riders and the NASCAR community, everything that they put in for these silent auctions and, you know, the things, the fundraisers. We were able to pay all our hospital bills. When it was said or done. We didn't. We didn't have anything that was. Now, we did have a cop show up one day with papers because we hadn't got on page yet. We're like, it's coming, it's coming. So it wasn't easy, but because of our friends and family and NASCAR was a huge part of that.

[Jerome Davis]

A big part of.

[Tiffany Davis]

Yeah. That we were able to keep continuing on with life in this crazy world and buy crazy buck and bulls and

[Hermie Sadler]

go on the road. I'm really taken aback about this new show in a wonderful way. As crazy as I am, I'm a very emotional person. I love people. So I want to ask you a question in a good way, and I want you to comment on what I'm going to say. I watched the movie 8 seconds, and at the very end of the movie, the bull rider is up in like a 58 Baron, and they looked down and they said, let's go get their money. And then, of course, he gets killed. It's crazy because to this day, that. That is burnt into my brain. And I think there's things in our lives that are burnt. Whether we lost Dale Senior or a bull rider, you know, he was dominating. Tell me about that movie 8 seconds. And do you like it? Is it real? Tell me about it all.

[Jerome Davis]

Well, here's what I know about eight seconds. So I was in college, living in West Texas at the time. Time. And there's a. The bull riding that they won in that movie was Del Rio. That was the one. Lane one. Well, I was entered in Del Rio. I was down there and I, When I packed up in a minivan, left North Carolina and went to West Texas. I was just trying to get by, you know. Well, that movie, they said, hey, if you'll. If you'll put on this shirt and these chaps and this hat and ride in it. And I'd already paid my entry fees.

[Mike Harmon]

I'm competing.

[Jerome Davis]

We'll give you 50 bucks for every bull you get on. We had to get on three bulls. I said, well, that's 150 bucks.

[Hermie Sadler]

That's a lot of money.

[Jerome Davis]

Yeah, my fees were like 250, so I'm getting there. And they told me, they said, if you use it in the movie, we're going to give you another 500. I said, well, heck, that's a deal. I'm in. So we did. That's what we done. But here's to tell the rest of the story. I won Del Rio that day. I won the bull riding at Lane one. Well, when I won it that day, they actually use that part in the movie. And if you watch Lane at Del Rio after he gets stepped on and he has to win it, if you look really hard, I got a big nose.

[Mike Harmon]

You can see it.

[Jerome Davis]

You can see it in that movie. But anyway, that was. That was it. Yeah, the movie. What, what I didn't think was right about the movie was one thing. Cody Lambert didn't never write no poem from a poet.

[Hermie Sadler]

Hollywood. Yeah. She said, Hollywood. Here we go. There's a theme going on.

[Mike Harmon]

I'm not going to ask them to write poet tree on the show.

[Tiffany Davis]

You really knew Cody Lambert. And he's not the happy little go lucky guy in the movie. He's the hardcore old school cowboy.

[Mike Harmon]

All right, keep telling us the real stuff here.

[Jerome Davis]

So, and the other thing was Clyde Frost, Lane's dad, was not like that. He was not a mean guy. Like he was one of the most nice, nicest guys you ever been around. And, and I don't think they showed Lane's faith. Lane, I didn't get to know Lane. Lane. Lane got killed in 89. I really come on the scene 90, 91. After that it happened.

[Tiffany Davis]

So has anybody seen the movie? We're talking about eight seconds. So y' all know, okay, so y'

[Hermie Sadler]

all kind of one of the greatest movies of all time.

[Tiffany Davis]

And it is very, it's very pretty, you know, close to everything besides that thing. But Elsie, Lane's mom had told me that was one thing that really bothered her about the movie. But she had prayed about it, you know, it what didn't focus around their faith. And she wanted to focus and it bothered her, she said, but the Hollywood people that come in, the Baldwin guy and stuff that they got to minister to, she said what that went over the Hollywood set was amazing. And then the part she didn't like was how they portrayed Clyde as this hard nosed guy that him and Lane didn't And she said it was completely opposite. She said, but after the movie come out, she realized that was all God's hand in that because they have more people come up and said, you don't know how that restored mine and my son's relationship after we watch that movie. And she said she sees now that that all come about for a reason because it brought a lot of sons and dads back together. So, you know, things happen for a reason. But, you know, you was talking about the guys. Another little thing, you know, you just talking about them flying in. And one thing that always touches my heart, I get a little emotional thinking about. Cause I'm like, you, king. We got big hearts.

[Hermie Sadler]

We're badasses, but we are.

[Tiffany Davis]

Exactly. But you know, we love people.

[Hermie Sadler]

We love people.

[Tiffany Davis]

We love people. But you know, that day after Lane passed, so Cody and Tough was in that little plane, they. To get him home, they had to fly home with him. Yeah. So, you know, things like that and certain cowboys. And Lane's mom, she knew they were having to fly home with their best friend in there. So she had people there, she was already thinking of, of the other boys and she's like, have them met when they get out of the plane. Everything will be handled.

[Jerome Davis]

That's brutal.

[Tiffany Davis]

Yeah, yeah. So. But there's love, you know, it's a family. It's love.

[Hermie Sadler]

So for 27 years, I lived down here in Concord, North Carolina. My address, I remember it. 8995 Harris Road. Not Harris, not Harris Boulevard, Harris Road. Right around the corner was Steagalls.

[Mike Harmon]

Steagalls? Yeah. Roadie. Do y' all know about this?

[Jerome Davis]

Oh, yeah.

[Hermie Sadler]

Okay. So on Sundays, you know, we'd be racing and I forgot what night it was. But, man, I'm living there. I'm focused on my NASCAR career. And I had no idea. Some years went by and rolled down that road, Little two lane dirt road. And it opened up. It opened up and it was, to me, just unbelievable. And my girls would start going there. How many of these? I'm going to call it a rodeo. Joints are hid like that in America. Are they rare?

[Jerome Davis]

Oh, no, they're everywhere.

[Hermie Sadler]

They are.

[Jerome Davis]

Yeah. They really are. When I was a kid growing up, you could go to one almost every night of the week with about an

[Tiffany Davis]

hour and a half in North Carolina. You don't realize in North Carolina there's that many. North Carolina is actually, besides Texas, we've got a really big thing going on here.

[Hermie Sadler]

Hell yeah.

[Tiffany Davis]

Industry. Yeah.

[Mike Harmon]

Yeah.

[Tiffany Davis]

Like this. North Carolina is the belt of, of the bull riders and The. The stock contractors and stuff.

[Hermie Sadler]

It was hit right in there. I passed it 100 times. And I'd see the lights come on, you know?

[Tiffany Davis]

Yeah.

[Hermie Sadler]

And my kids started saying, oh, it's so much fun. Them bull riders are crazy.

[Mike Harmon]

Let me tell you something.

[Tiffany Davis]

Jerome's daddy was the announcer. He was the announcer. His daddy was a carry on like his dad was. He was as full as crap as you, and he would. He would carry on, and he was the announcer for that thing.

[Mike Harmon]

She knows you already.

[Hermie Sadler]

Hey, you know what was my comeback is I can carry on, but I go to victory Lane, too. That always messes people up. When I win a lot of races, they're, you know, they're like, I'll get out of the dirt car nowadays, you know, win a big race, 5,000 win. And they're like, it's really him. How does he act so silly? I'm like, there's a difference between silly and happy. I'm happy.

[Jerome Davis]

You got.

[Tiffany Davis]

You talk it. You walk it, too.

[Hermie Sadler]

That's right.

[Mike Harmon]

Yeah.

[Hermie Sadler]

We go to. We got lots of trophy. That's right. Back it up.

[Mike Harmon]

I want to tell you guys a story real quick, because, you know, you mentioned Steagalls and the having those rodeo. So when we went up to the Davis Rodeo Ranch for the first time, all I had was an address. I didn't know what to expect. Jerome, just so you know, let alone the fact that he's the coach of the Carolina Cowboys and also the 2025 coach of the year, by the way, all these things. This is. This is who he is.

[Hermie Sadler]

Yeah. That's a big deal.

[Mike Harmon]

And not only is Richard Childress his boss, I guess. Or is it Austin?

[Jerome Davis]

I don't know both of them.

[Mike Harmon]

So. So we. We didn't know what to expect. We go up there. He's a. He's the one of the founding investors of the pbr. Okay, so you invested a grand total of how much?

[Jerome Davis]

A thousand dollars.

[Mike Harmon]

A thousand dollars. And you scraped together to get that thousand.

[Tiffany Davis]

He only had 500 when they all had 500.

[Jerome Davis]

I remember when. When. The same time I was getting that $150 to ride at Del Rio, they were asking me for $1,000 to start the PBR, and I didn't have it. I got 500, and I got some good bulls in California next week, and I think I'm pay you the rest. That's how it worked. And I.

[Tiffany Davis]

But y' all were room.

[Hermie Sadler]

Right.

[Tiffany Davis]

How many of there was y' all in that motel room?

[Jerome Davis]

There was 20 of us in a Motel room. Well, there was really about what everybody don't know. There was really about 25 of us, and there was five of them, and it was against it and didn't want to do it.

[Tiffany Davis]

Talking about forming the pbr, Right?

[Jerome Davis]

Right. And they. They were saying we was going to mess up what was going on.

[Mike Harmon]

It's like their streamline hotel, right?

[Hermie Sadler]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. And so my mind is going, yeah, so.

[Jerome Davis]

So now they're saying, hey, let's. Let's get in. Thousand bucks.

[Tiffany Davis]

And Troman didn't have enough.

[Jerome Davis]

And I thought, man, I'll be left out. But anyway, the guy. I wish I could see the guy. We gave our money to this guy. He cussed every other sentence. I mean, it was bad, but somehow it worked. At the end of the day, you

[Tiffany Davis]

had 500, though, right? 500.

[Jerome Davis]

Rode the bulls the next week.

[Tiffany Davis]

You said, I've got a good bull this weekend. Can I give you the other 500? They said, all right, we'll.

[Hermie Sadler]

We'll let you in.

[Mike Harmon]

So I say that to say this. The PBR eventually sold, and they sold for more than a thousand dollars. Kenny. Kenny Wallace, they sold for a lot more. And then all of a sudden, my man here goes. I got a little money. Guess what he did with that money. He built a. He built an arena in his front yard.

[Hermie Sadler]

Hell, yeah.

[Mike Harmon]

They're all laughing. I'm telling you something. If you go to Jerome Davis dot com, there's a video right there. When you go on it, look at this video. Think of the best high school football stadium. This thing's got a press box. It's. It is a bucking bull heavy. It's redneck Disneyland. Okay? It is. And. And I'm gonna tell you something. They put all their money. This is why, Tiffany, what do you call this place? What do you call it? Because you didn't get your retirement money?

[Tiffany Davis]

Oh, my lake house.

[Mike Harmon]

She calls it the lake house because

[Tiffany Davis]

you put them new bleachers in. I said, well, that was my lake house right there, if I was ever gonna get one. And every time, all them people sit down, like, I hope y' all like, sitting in my lake house. Cause that's it. I won't ever get no lake out.

[Hermie Sadler]

I got a good comeback for that. You know, here I've been racing my whole life. I'm supposed to be retiring, and my wife is like, you've been racing NASCAR and asphalt for 32 years. I'm not going with you to them. Them dirt racers. So, like, two years ago, I. And this has to do with you in the lake house and this other dream, you know, I told Kim, I said, okay, I think I'm gonna quit racing. She looked me square, nice. She goes, you are not gonna quit racing until your grandbabies go to Victory Lane. So, yeah, you know, roadie is all. You know, as Matt, you know, it's always a pain in the ass.

[Tiffany Davis]

Yeah.

[Hermie Sadler]

At rodeo or that racing.

[Tiffany Davis]

Yeah.

[Hermie Sadler]

But that is what. That's us.

[Tiffany Davis]

And we don't know how to do nothing else. I don't know what to do at a lake house, to be honest. So if there wasn't something to feed

[Hermie Sadler]

or fit, probably going to the. Yeah.

[Tiffany Davis]

So.

[Hermie Sadler]

Yeah, that's the way it is.

[Mike Harmon]

Tell us what you do with this big arena now that you've got it.

[Jerome Davis]

Yeah. So the first and third Wednesday during the summer, we do a rodeo because we're on the road from Thursday to Monday. So I told Tiffany we didn't have enough to do. So. So on Wednesdays, the 1st and 3rd, y' all need to come and see us. The first, third Wednesday we have Wild West Wednesdays. And man, we got young kids riding sheep.

[Tiffany Davis]

And it started out we're just do it for the community.

[Mike Harmon]

Yeah.

[Tiffany Davis]

It's just gonna be about. And there's a few hundred people there. Started out that way. Now it's turned into there'll be 1500, 2000 people on a Wednesday night. I'm like, drum, this is a lot of work for a Wednesday night.

[Hermie Sadler]

You know, Dale Jr. And Amy, they have that little. Well, it's. It's not make believe. Like it's real little western town. Yeah, right.

[Jerome Davis]

Yeah.

[Hermie Sadler]

Be really awesome. I'm thinking I'm vision. Maybe you all have a. Have a little western town up there. Like, you know, you go in there, there's a candy store for the kids. You go over here. That's such a great dynamic. You know, Mike, I'm looking at you now, and I never put two and two together. The Western store now with a rodeo, you guys could do a lot of videos down there at the Western store.

[Mike Harmon]

We just need y' all to just take the. Dale's got the blueprints built the western town under Archdale, North Carolina.

[Tiffany Davis]

Like a little Love Valley. Anybody been to Love Valley? Going to find out who the real rednecks are right now. If y' all been to Love Valley, y' all telling on yourselves.

[Jerome Davis]

We've been there a few times.

[Mike Harmon]

So you call it Wild West Wednesdays. It begins July, June, June 2nd. All right, see again now I'm mixing up my J's. So it begins and people can just come to these things on Wednesday night.

[Jerome Davis]

And then we've got the longest running outdoor PBR van. It's June 26 and 27.

[Tiffany Davis]

26 years we've been doing it here. 27 this year. Yeah, we've been doing. And it's a PBR event, so it's like your. How would you compare it to racing? What level?

[Jerome Davis]

I'll tell you a quick story. So right after I got hurt, we did the PBR in my. We did my grandpa's old cornfield. It's where this arena is at old dairy farm soil.

[Hermie Sadler]

Yeah.

[Jerome Davis]

So I told. I told daddy, we'll just, we'll just put the arena out here at the cornfield. There's enough room out here and we'll. We'll have it. There was so many people. So many people showed. We didn't have near enough seat. And people are on top of each other. But that's when I knew we had something. You know, I knew we was. We had started something because I got hurt. People were talking about it, wanted to see me, I guess. Cause I'd been hurt, you know, and I was back home and they just flooded that place.

[Mike Harmon]

You just reminded me of something, though. You got a story. Tell, tell, tell. Kenny and these guys here about the time that people showed up and you weren't prepared for it and why they showed up.

[Jerome Davis]

All right, so before the cornfield, where I grew up, we had another arena. In that arena, every Thursday night, April through October, every Thursday night, me and daddy had a bull riding. And it was one of them Steagall type. Yeah, it was a little. It was. It was held in the, in the, in the backyard pretty much. We buck bulls there all the time. Well, it was rough. It was really rough because the people who drink would get. Sit on one side and the ones that didn't on the other side. But this one particular night, people just kept coming in and they kept coming in. And I. You just had to know, me and my daddy, we'd just get by, you know, it's all we could do, keep the bulls fed.

[Hermie Sadler]

I said, daddy, look at all these

[Jerome Davis]

people that keep showing up. I said, they're just rolling in here. And they kept coming and kept coming. We'll find out. The kids at the school had lined up a fight and they were going to fight at the rodeo that night.

[Hermie Sadler]

Oh, my Lord.

[Jerome Davis]

So they just kept coming. Well, I found out who it was. Well, I knew them kids dance. And I said, I said, hey, Look, I know y' all want them kids to fight, and if y' all wait till after this thing, promoter. I said, we'll just. We'll let them slug it out. Because I knew their dads, and they were good old boys. So I said, after it's over, we'll let them slug it out, and we'll be done. Well, that's what we done. We let all the people that didn't know what was going on leave. And they made a big circle out there in the park lot, and then two old boys slugged it out. And after it was over, it was done.

[Tiffany Davis]

Yeah, but tell them what you just said. You ask them.

[Jerome Davis]

So I got to talking to them guys, and I said, hey, you think we can line another one of them fights?

[Mike Harmon]

Fight promoter Dana White over here.

[Hermie Sadler]

Get a quick question in here. I. I flew in from St. Louis Sunday night. I got off the airplane. I saw two people with PBR stuff. Well, you mentioned it is pbr. I mean, you said North Carolina is big. Why would I have seen. I told Mike this. I said, what's going on in North Carolina? Was that luck? Chance?

[Tiffany Davis]

PBR finals just got over with. So you see them in the airport?

[Hermie Sadler]

I flew. I left St. Louis. I flew into Charlotte. So you think they were coming?

[Tiffany Davis]

They were coming. We just got through this past weekend. We've been out in Texas for 10 days. They were coming home from the finals. Yeah.

[Hermie Sadler]

That's so awesome.

[Jerome Davis]

Yeah. So some of you guys don't know. There's a. There's a individual season which ended last weekend with the pbr.

[Tiffany Davis]

That's where the guys are riding just for theirselves.

[Jerome Davis]

Yep. And then the team season kicks off in July.

[Hermie Sadler]

So that's what we have. A group of.

[Tiffany Davis]

Group of guys rides for the Carolina Cowboys. The, you know, in. Each team rides, you know, as a team. So there's two different seasons. Half and half now used to just be one individual sport. And the teams that. This will be the fifth year that they've started the teams and people are loving it. We didn't realize this team concept. People love rivalries and teams and stuff.

[Mike Harmon]

Herm, I'm going to tell you something. I'm new to this.

[Hermie Sadler]

They're talking in our ear.

[Mike Harmon]

I'm a taste. They are talking in our ear, but I'm a taste. Listen, I encourage. Just watch one of these team events. You'll see the Carolina Cowboys. You'll see this man coaching them, and he coaches them, too. It's really beautiful.

[Tiffany Davis]

Better yet, watch the podcast.

[Mike Harmon]

Well, hold on a Second, I'm gonna get there. But like, but, like, you'll see what we're talking about because they're really. They are really fascinating. And when they kick this team season off, they'll run through October. And the Carolina Cowboys won the championship. Well, Austin Dillon was racing in Martinsville when, when they were in Vegas at the championship. And, I mean, he was going crazy. But listen, I'm going to ask a favor from everybody right here. So right now you can go to YouTube, pull out your phones, and you can go to Dirty Mo Rodeo. There's a new YouTube channel. It's dirty Mo Rodeo. Go ahead, pull it by. You can do it right now. If you're listening on SiriusXM and you're driving, just promise that you'll do it when you do it safely.

[Jerome Davis]

Don't, don't.

[Mike Harmon]

Don't do it while you're driving. But listen, go follow the dirty mo rodeo YouTube channel, because if you do, you will get access to all the stuff that they're doing. It is not just going to be this cowboy life. They do stuff all the time. And you'll get access to that documentary and their stuff before it goes out to everybody else. So dirty mo rodeo YouTube channel, please go follow it, subscribe to it, do all those things because we really want people to learn their story and see what, what, how we just fell in love with this entire operation.

[Hermie Sadler]

Yeah. And for me, it's a story and perseverance.

[Tiffany Davis]

Yeah.

[Hermie Sadler]

You know, you're a great couple. You're a champion. And here you've been dealt this card. It kind of reminds me of Kyle, Betty, Cal Petty losing Adam. And he says, okay, we're going to go over here. We're going to start the Victor Junction Gang camp.

[Tiffany Davis]

Yeah.

[Hermie Sadler]

And. And that story Tiff that you told about him in the hospital, he's like, no, I got to get, you know, okay, it changed a little bit. But you're, you know, I think it's incredible what you're doing. I admire you both. I love you very much for not folding your cards. And, and you're. You're doing. You're doing even better. I know you won't be on that bull, but, you know, I said he

[Tiffany Davis]

ain't going to rust out. He might wear me out, but he rust out.

[Hermie Sadler]

Good job. We.

[Mike Harmon]

We've got less than three minutes and we're live. So they're giving always three.

[Jerome Davis]

Always three.

[Mike Harmon]

And that's a perfect way if you can do it in less than three minutes. Tell us your Earnhardt Crossroads. Tell us how big he came into your life?

[Jerome Davis]

Well, Dale called me when I was in the hospital, which he would always. So long. I know his pilot, Mike Collier. He rode bulls years ago. So Dale would always. Through Mike, I would. We was always passing stuff. Well, then when I got hurt, he. He come through at the. At the hospital. He called me and he said. He actually called tf Right. And picked up the phone.

[Tiffany Davis]

Me and Joe wasn't married. And when. When he called, he said, hey, Tiffany, how's our boy doing? I was like, oh, he's doing pretty good. He's hanging in there. I was like. He said, well, this is Dale Earnhardt. I was calling to check on him, and I was like. I said, what do you want to talk to him? So I handed him the phone. But he had even learned my name. Well. And I don't know, but that's how sincere and kind he was that he knew my name, too. And then him and Jerome talk for I don't know how long on there.

[Hermie Sadler]

I'm still afraid of Richard Petty to this day, when I see Richard Petty, I'm like, yeah, there's some people that are bigger than life.

[Tiffany Davis]

We have to tell you about the story on the podcast about Richard Petty. His grandkids coming to cowboy camp.

[Hermie Sadler]

Open up.

[Dale Earnhardt Jr.]

We open.

[Hermie Sadler]

That's another. That's another show.

[Tiffany Davis]

To be continued. Tune in.

[Mike Harmon]

Yeah, but isn't that awesome?

[Jerome Davis]

You know what was cool after that, though? Dale started the. The Justin Cowboy Crisis Fund. They'll started giving to it.

[Tiffany Davis]

Yeah.

[Mike Harmon]

Awesome.

[Jerome Davis]

People didn't know that, but he did. He would give to it every year for rodeo cowboys that got hurt.

[Hermie Sadler]

And we can raise some money in nascar. We can raise some money. We really can.

[Jerome Davis]

Yeah.

[Tiffany Davis]

You know, Dale's got a bunch of cowboys in his family, all his granddaughters and great. He's.

[Mike Harmon]

That's right.

[Tiffany Davis]

He's the genetics. The cowboys is in Dale.

[Hermie Sadler]

He is a cowboy.

[Tiffany Davis]

Yeah. Yeah, he really is.

[Mike Harmon]

I don't know. Wrangler sponsorship. Sure did.

[Tiffany Davis]

His daughter, granddaughters. All of them are cowgirls, Real cowgirls.

[Hermie Sadler]

Old Punchy Whitaker got a tire store down there 100 years ago. Senior said, herman, you go get. I moved from St. Louis. Dale Senior goes, herman, you get your tires. You go down to Punchy. Punchy said, man, every morning, you know, Senior used to live up there when he was broke, like, above the tire store. He said he'd hear Senior put on his cowboy boots every morning. So he really was a cowboy. Yeah.

[Jerome Davis]

Oh, yeah.

[Tiffany Davis]

Yeah, for sure. Yeah. He always followed Jerome's career what was neat, they'd always say. Dale said when Drum won the world, he was one of the first ones. They said, you know, congratulations and stuff.

[Jerome Davis]

That's amazing.

[Mike Harmon]

Listen, everybody, Jerome and Tiffany, thank you for being here.

[Tiffany Davis]

Thank you.

[Mike Harmon]

Thank you for doing this cowboy life. Thank you for being part of the Dirty Mo family.

[Hermie Sadler]

Family Herm.

[Mike Harmon]

Thank you for being Herm.

[Hermie Sadler]

You're going to count this baby, right?

[Mike Harmon]

I'm going nail it, baby. I'm going to nail it like a pro. But listen, thank you all. This has been Dirty Mo Live presented by Arby's Meet3Box. Thank you for being here. See y' all later.

[Dale Earnhardt Jr.]

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