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Do It For Dale, Hauler Fights, Moonshine: Best of DJD
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Do It For Dale, Hauler Fights, Moonshine: Best of DJD
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Hey everybody, it's Dale junior Here for the Dale junior Download. And over the course of this year and years in past, we've had so many great guests on the Dale Jr. Download, we've compiled a best of show for you to enjoy. Here it is. Struggling to see up close. Make it visible with viz. VIZ is a once daily prescription eye drop to treat blurry near vision for up to 10 hours. The most common side effects that may be experienced while using VIZ include eye irritation, temporary dim or dark vision, headaches and eye redness. Talk to an eye doctor to learn if Viz is right for you. Learn more@viz.com Guys, thanks for helping me carry my Christmas tree. Zoe. This thing weighs a ton. Drew Ski, lift with your legs, man. Santa. Santa, did you get my letter? He's talking to you, Bridges. I'm not. Of course he did. Right, Santa, you know my elf Drew Ski here. He handles the nice list. An elf? I'm six' three. What everyone wants is iPhone 17 and at T Mobile, you can get it on them. 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This is the most fun I've had in this chair in the last hour and a half. Yes. I don't know if we've ever argued. Did I piss you off over the weekend or. I'm still sour that I wasn't the best man at your wedding. Who was your best man, Dale? Tj. Tj. You don't need a cool vest for that race. What are you thinking? Get him, DJ Hell. Way to start the show. All right then. All right. So sitting here with Chris Stapleton and Justin. Justin and Chris. I mean We've been working on this minute for a long time, trying to put together something that's not easy to put together. But we're here today and announcing, finally able to share, I guess, with the rest of the world what we're up to. And I kind of want to get Yalls individual feelings about the realization that this is going down. It's a real thing. It's been cool for me. You know, the process of this is kind of superseded me being a part of it, just trying to get to the end of the year. Obviously, we were going for a championship last fall, and so the question never got asked if I would drive it. But when the question finally came of, you know, would you be the driver? When I walked into the office, I'll never forget, the faces were pretty stoic, and I thought maybe I was in trouble. Right. Like, I didn't know what to expect. And so they started running through the process of what was going to happen and that Travelers was going to be part of it and you were going to be part of it, and. And I kind of thought in that moment that we were just. They were going to tell me the program and tell me who was going to drive it and just what Junior Motorsports was up to. And when I got asked to drive it, it was really special. And then to see. To see your involvement, to understand what you've wanted to get out of this, it's been special. Right? And I mean, the Daytona 500, you've lived it. You. You've been a part of it. I've been lucky enough to race it twice now, and there's no race like it. So this is. This is a really cool experience and cool that we're able to get all together like this. And to have this program going for me, I, you know, selfishly just wanted to see the car. But beyond that, I just love the history of racing and whiskey a little bit. And that's kind of how it all started, I think. And when I thought about pie in the sky kind of things that I would want to do to kind of advertise this product that we have that I'm real proud of, this was one of those kind of like, what if we could do this? And. And I happen to know Rick Hendrick, and he kind of hooked us up, and we built it from there, and it seemed it was a very easy process to me. I don't know how you felt about it on your end. I was like, this is really happening. Okay, cool. When we said a couple rounds of designing this car together. And here it is, the day, and it's a real thing. And I got to see it today. And it was. Sometimes in those moments, I can feel like I didn't think those things could really. Those things really happen, you know, like. And then we're here doing this, and I'm going to show up at and get to watch the Daytona 500 with a car that has a whiskey that I'm involved in on it. So I think that's, for me, I don't think it's going to get much better than that. Just going to feel like I already feel like winning the super bowl or something. It feels like that. Just to get to make the thing, you know? And I think I love creating things. And as somebody who likes to create things, my part that I can contribute to it is done. So. And you guys obviously have a lot more real work to do in it than what I do. But I'm. I'm thrilled to be just a tiny part. Been a couple of reality checks in this process, unveiling the car and all of those things. Can you imagine what that might. It might feel like to stand on the grid is Justin's starting to buckle up. I don't. I don't think I'm going to be able to know what that is until I'm sure you. I'm sure you see, I think. I think you guys are sitting here smiling about it because you're like, he doesn't know what's. To be honest with you. Like, I mean, I've said it before, but, like, I've done this as a driver for many times, I've done it as a driver, and there's a. There's excitement, but also pressure, nerves. And you're the one kind of in control of everything in terms of how things go that day. But as an owner, the thing about being an owner, and I think you may also experience this, is once it's on the grid and before, gentlemen, start your engines, it's out of your hands at that point. Right, right. And. And so there's a lot of. There's not so much pressure anymore. Yeah. But it's a pride's thing. It's like watching something you had an involvement in creating go out and do what it's supposed to do. But all how he turned, where, how he turns the corner is up to him. Right. It's no longer in my hands. And so. Which is kind of nice, you know. All right, it's time to bring our next guest onto the show. This is going to be a lot of fun for me. Cletus mcfarland, what do you think of the quote, do it for Dale? I love it. And when, you know, all these years later, I said this when he passed away, and I said it for probably a decade or so, Everybody would be like, you know, what's your thoughts on losing your dad? And I'd go, my fear is that he'll one day just be forgotten. With time, my worry would be that he would just. He would just disappear into the distance. Right. As we get further and further removed from his career, I was like, I just hope he's never forgotten because he left such an impact on the sport. And so that kind of thing is the staying power that is the reminder to me like, that he's. He resonated with people. Now that you say that, I would say that he has the most long standing, legendary status of any real motorsports driver, maybe. I think he does. And so when I hear things like that, it's like, yeah, yeah, he still matters. I say it at the end of every one of my videos, Every YouTube video I've ever had. Yeah, maybe a few I missed, But I always just say, thanks for watching. Do it for dale. I love it. Do it for dale is like a nod to dad and his. His legacy. And. And it's. It's tasteful. It's, you know, I like, I'm thankful. I'm glad you like it. I know I'm not the one who invented it. I just, you know, I think it's a great saying. It's like a lifestyle. My buddy Justin Keith said it to me one time, and I was like, dude, for dale, yeah, it's literally. That's kind of like how we live our lives. Like, we're just doing it for dale. That's right. That's cool. I'm glad you like it. All right, man. Here on the Dale Jr. Download with Casey Kane. You know, I took six years off of nascar racing. And why? Well, I needed to. I needed to for myself and just kind of get away and do, you know, do different things. I put a lot into that for 16 years, you know, and just put. Put everything I had into it. And I feel like at times I got everything out of it that I needed, and at other times, it was difficult, just like racing is for. For most, you know, the ups and downs of racing. But yeah, I loved racing in nascar. And how hard was that to make that choice? I know you. You made the choice. You had a purpose and a reason behind it. But it's not like just. You don't just stop. Right. You gotta. How hard was it to wake up and watch that. That series keep going? I've experienced that. Right? Yeah. And so watch. How hard was it to wake up and watch them continue on and going down the road without you? Yeah. And it's. It doesn't slow down. They're doing. You know, it just keeps going. So that was actually pretty hard for a little while. And it made me not pay attention to NASCAR for a little while, you know, and I. So I tried to really get away. It hurt. Pay attention to it. Yeah. Because I felt that I should still be part of that. Yeah. I needed to get away because of, you know, personal health and things like that. Like, my body, it was struggling with those long races. Why? It just went down that path. Did you ever learn of dehydration? You know, it just went down that path and I couldn't fix it. The longer the seasons went, the harder it got to recover, the longer the week was feeling terrible and the quicker. I mean, by the end, like, I was done in practice. First practice at Darlington, I was sopping wet. If I stood in one area, it was a puddle underneath me halfway through practice. Wow. And my body just, you know, I don't know why it went that direction, but they say, I mean, you can't control those things. And off of environment and a lot of different scenarios is, you know, your body goes certain directions, but mine went that way with the heat and. Yeah. So it was. It was tough. And then the series just went on and it looked good without me. So that was, you know, it was kind of hard for a little while, and I stayed away from it. The other thing that. And we don't have to talk about this if you don't want to, Casey, because you've never really publicly talked about it, but head injuries, I think me. And you've had some pretty nasty wrecks, and I've been open about mine, but I was wondering if you thought that any of that ever had an effect on you personally? I think that it definitely has. I learned a lot about it after I left nascar. Before that, I didn't really pay attention to it. And when I crashed my sprint car hard and knocked out and took a little break and realized, yeah, yeah. Didn't you have to step out? Yeah, I stepped. I tried to race, and basically I was entering the corner. When I thought I was entering the corner at the right time, it was like 100ft late. Yeah. And I had no clue other than when I would get there. I was in a different spot than I had really thought I was in. Right. And that's when I realized. I mean, I. I was questioning kind of my head. So let me ask you this. So do you. That's interesting to me because there's like. When I had. When I got. When my. When I would have an issue, right. If I'd crash and I'd have it, I was like. I knew, like, yeah, I messed up. This is. I'm. There's a problem now when I. It. Give me a second here. When we're. When we're in our 20s or when we're young. Yeah. Right. I didn't. I had concussions and crashes and, and rang my bell, we'd call it. That I didn't think were a big deal. You know, we would erect it in 98 at the Xfinity race at Daytona. I flipped and hit my head on the door. On the door top and was dizzy and thought it was funny because in my mind I was gonna. It was gonna go away a couple days. One day, two day, whatever. Yeah. And no big deal. I didn't think anything about it being a long term problem or should I race next weekend? No. Is this fine? You know, and that there were other crashes that I was probably messed up and didn't know it. And then when I got older, it was real easy to tell there's a problem. And there are guys, there are other guys that I know that it's not as obvious to them when there's a problem. Right. There's. There's been other racers that I know that have crashed, and they're like, man, I felt fine. I felt totally fine. But then I got out there and this happened and I was like, oh, that's not right. But I felt fine. I had no clue. Yeah. And so. And it sounds like you kind of fell into that boat. Like you had this crash, you got knocked out, you thought everything was good. And then you drive in the car and you're like, that's not quite what needs to be happening. But otherwise, walking around talking every day, getting up in the morning, doing your thing, living life, you were oblivious. You had no idea that there was going to be this issue till you put yourself in stress. Right. And are in duress. Right. Right behind the wheel of a car. Is that kind of. So I'd say that's partly correct with me. So I just know of two concussions. One was the one that was in sprint cars four years ago, five years ago, and learned a lot about it since then. And after that I was like, man, I bet there was other times and didn't put it together right. There was another in 13. I crashed at Loudon, New Hampshire. Hit the inside wall. You gave this really crazy interview. Do you ever. Have you ever watched. So I've seen the interview and I'm just. It's very confused. Yes. Do you. And I caught myself after that. I would be driving down the. So I'd be driving from. I lived in Sherrill's Ford. I'd be driving into Mooresville and just be happy as can be running 25 miles an hour down the road, 35 miles an hour down the road, 50 mile an hour zone or something slow. And have no clue. Yeah. Right. So I caught myself doing things like that after that one. Yeah. But I never felt off in the car. But did you feel. But when I look back, I know I had to have been off in the car, but I didn't feel it. You know, the only things that were off to me was, you know, I'd catch myself doing things that I was surprised I was doing on the roads. Yeah. So that means, you know, in the car I might have been as well. Yeah. But always raced through it. Prior to that, I never felt anything different. Weird. Nothing. That's so frustrating because that there are people similar to yourself like, that haven't have an issue, but don't recognize it or don't. There's. It's not that it's not obvious. And I think, you know, I just watch drivers and I go, man, I. I wonder if he knows. Maybe he's not okay. Right. And they're just like. It was. It became a. It was easy, I guess, for me to tell, like. Like, I got a problem, man. I need to pay attention to this. And. But other people, it doesn't. It's just weird how it affects people differently. And I would say in some situations they might know something's off, and then others, they may not at all. Because I feel like I was on both sides of it. And I've looked a lot, you know, I've looked at it, you know, a lot since. Since I learned more about it. I went to pa, Learned a lot about concussions and how to help myself. Did you go see Mickey? Mickey, yeah. And it was. He's like the best. He's the man. The man, like the best doctor I've ever. He just. He makes you feel really good and understand what we're looking at, you know, and it's like, wow, that clicks. Like it was, it was really good, you know, visits up there. Yeah. I think I remember you going up there. I. So let me ask you this question. When you get, so you get past that crash in, in the Indy car, in the sprint car, you take the time, you do the right thing. Everything Mickey's telling you to do. Right. You do the homework, you're back at. You're back at full song. 70 races a year, three years in a row. How do you measure, Like, I have girls, you've got kids. How do you measure the risk at this age? Right. Like we're doing this bonus racing. Right. Right. Like I, I, my idea of, my idea of playing it safe is pretty silly. I'm like, you know, I just don't need to race every week. I can race a couple here and there, and that really lowers my odds of getting myself in trouble because I, I don't need to hit anything. Right. And now could I hit something and be fine? More than likely. But I don't need to test that theory. Right. And so that's why I race. Very minimal and. But you're back at it. Hard at it. Seventy races a year. You're as you're in the throws, putting yourself at risk like any other racer in the sprint car world. Yeah. How do you, how do you, you know, how do you justify that? So I talk to Amy about it, you know, and, and make sure that we're on the same page with it. That's important. I think about it probably more than what I should. Well, that's okay. But you're 44 years old. Yeah. You know. Right. You have to. I have to. And I feel like I want to. And because of that, like, every single time I learned from that last wreck that, well, that wreck where I'd hit my head hard, that I just need to be more like, really do a much better job of understanding where I'm at and who I'm around and, you know, and their tendencies, you know, and just how maybe they race and just do a, you know, just basically use my head more than just going out there and going as hard as you can. Yeah. So I look at everything a little differently now. Aura Frames is the answer to every holiday gifting moment. Never struggle again to find the perfect holiday gift. Enjoy unlimited free photo and video uploads. Simply download the Aura app, connect to WI Fi and start adding memories in seconds. Every gift can be personalized with a custom message that appears when it's first turned on. A thoughtful touch for any occasion. 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H E L p.com dalejr all right, so the Dale Jr download here on a Wednesday guest segment and one of our most requested by far has been Carl Edwards. And we are lucky to have the chance to have Carl here today. Let's talk about Homestead. I'm in my bus, I believe, and I remember the sound of the cars slowing down and I thought, there's a yellow. And I look out the window and here comes this car down across the apron with a flat tire and I thought, I can't believe they threw a yellow. That's Carl's championship. He's trying to win a championship here and had it. You had raced your whole life trusting that the green flag would drop and the checkered flag would end it. And that. There would be nothing in between that. That wasn't pure. Yeah. And between the tie with Tony, that was. There was no shenanigans going on there. But between how difficult that must have been to sort of go by, go get. Get past, right, this. You know, this questionable yellow. You had given everything you had to this sport. You'd been a good shepherd. You'd been a outstanding citizen in the industry. You know, you'd done everything right. I felt like I was sitting there watching this break you entirely, and I felt like it just took. It took all the passion that you had for this away. And I wonder if you could feel that same way that in, you know, I know you can gain it back. And I know you. Look, you're coming back. You're. You're gonna. You're gonna broadcast, you want to reconnect with the sport. You felt like you walked away from it. You felt like you turned your back on it. That's what you said. But, I mean, dude, you had every right, if that's what you did. Because, I mean, I felt like that, that. That you didn't deserve that. And I don't know how that you. I don't. I don't know how that must have felt for you. All right, man, you. You teed that one up. So what I'm sitting here thinking about. My hands are sweating when you're saying all this, because I don't know how honest I want to be about all this, but I think I'm just gonna tell you how it is. So there's a couple things here, and they're. They're really big deals to me to say. So first of all, I don't deserve anything. And I've learned this, that, you know, we were at church the other day, and anybody who knows me well knows I'm not. I'm not a. I'm historically an atheist at best, but I've come to realize at 45 years old that if I try to write down a list all the things that God didn't give me, that I did myself, there's an empty sheet of paper in front of me. So when I start there and I say, hey, everything's. Then it's just a gift. And what do you do with a gift? If I send you a gift, your only job to do is enjoy it. And so for me, I was wrestling with some things like this at the time. I was seeing them. I was living them right there. I was living that it wasn't my plan. It wasn't what you just described. It wasn't that I worked so hard my whole life, and I deserve to win this thing, and it was taken away from me. What I realized is that there was a bigger plan than mine and that all that stuff played out just perfectly, and I was just along for the ride. And. And so when I got out of that car, I was feeling something that was a lot bigger than me, and I wasn't sure how to deal with it, but it was the strangest feeling. Dale. I knew that whole weekend, and I was not a believer at that time, but I knew that whole weekend. My wife will tell you, there were so many crazy things that happened. My motorhome broke down at least once or twice on the way to the racetrack. I didn't have a motorhome. Had all sorts of issues going on at home that were very strange. Danica and I almost wrecked in practice. We had the fastest car, and it was this crazy thing in the middle of the race. We either we had a bad pit stop towards the end, or I screwed something up and I came out and I almost gave up. I remember pulling out, weaving behind the pace car, thinking, I did it. I gave up my whole. Everything I ever worked for. I'll never forget Dave Rogers coming on the radio and saying, we got them right where we want them. And we went and we passed every single one of the guys I had to beat. And there was something about that caution. It was like the final thing to say, damn it, you're not supposed to win this thing. This is not supposed to happen. And I know NASCAR was throwing those cautions to make it more exciting. That's a fact. And I specifically talked to people about it, and that's that. And. And we're all in this sport to entertain, and they were trying their hardest at the time. But my point in saying all of that is. Is that it was an outstanding set of circumstances. It was very odd. But now I realize it was the best thing in the world, you know, for me. And I was able to get the message that I did not belong in a race car. That's not what I was supposed to be doing with my life. And looking back, I'm so thankful for it. I mean, it's. It changed my life at that moment in a way that I. I could never have understood how great it was. So I know that's a roundabout answer. It might be too much to swallow, but that's. That's the way I see it. So, yeah, I think it's Just. I find it just hard to believe. Which parts. Hard to believe. Sorry. So you. You don't. You didn't have a choice but to experience it. It's what happened. Yep. Yep. In. In the moment. Yeah. And I could understand and anyone could understand how that would break your spirit. Yeah. If you just. We're just talking about your passion and love for racing and. Right. I could. I would give you that. I would say, hey, yes. Be. Be a broken man for a while. Yep. But to have. But to think I don't belong in a race car anymore or my life isn't. I'm ready to put this part of my life away. Yep. I just. Let me bridge the gap for you. Okay. So you're exactly right. I wanted to win that championship. It's everything. I mean, you know, you know, the. It's everything I'd worked for. That's it. That's the prize you want more than anything in the world. And yes, I believe that was snatched. Okay. So there. That's. That's part of it. Yes. The, The. And that was very difficult. Okay. So I had to look and say, okay, let's just go to the next year. Let's go to 2017. Right. Let me just be real smart. Let me just think this through. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to go and I am going to continue. I'm going to put everything in my life, second in the back seat, and I'm going to go start at Daytona and I'm going to drive the hell out of this race car like I've been doing for 13, 14 years, and I'm going to run this thing all the way to the end and give everything I got another year of my life. And all the stuff that you, you know, the head injury stuff started to really be a factor for me, you know, because I didn't think about that. And now I'm like, man, I'm not just giving up my time now. There's all sorts of things that I might be giving up in the future. And then I'm going to get to Homestead at the end of 2017. I'm going to do everything just right. And they're going to throw a caution with five to go, and we're going to put all this on a restart. And I thought, damn, I don't know if spending a whole year of my life and all the things you give up and possibly give up for, you know, one restart, like, I don't know. That's part. Yes, that's a big deal. You have to weigh that. And so. So, yeah, I guess really disappointing, but it actually helped me to say, hey, you know, this is the reality. This is how it could go, and is it worth it to you? All right, so right here on the Dale Jr. Download, we've got quite the group of guys assembled for this show. We're going back to the 2001 Daytona 24 hours and the Corvette that Dad and I was a part of. Doug Feeham was a team general manager. You're here today, Doug. Thanks for coming. And then Kelly Collins was one of our co drivers. And then Andy Pilgrim, also one of the co drivers. Right after the race, we were up on the podium and then everybody kind of. I had to go to Seabro or down to West Palm beach to test some cars for Skip Barber. And he comes running over and he goes, hey, when am I going to see you again? I go, I don't know, soon. We're going to, you know, you've talked about plans and stuff. That was it. Yeah. When was the last time you talked to him, Andy? The very last time I talked to him, mate, was actually during the 500. Oh, yeah. With the long yellow with Tony Stewart. And he said to me, because he'd invited me for the 500. Yeah. To come. And so, yeah, I actually stayed on his boat the night before the race. Yeah. And so it was like when you. When you. When you're towards the end of the race. He said, make sure you get back to the bus at the end because I'll be ready to go. He said that, you know, and there was an SUV there when I got back to the bus, and there's an SUV there back at the bus. And there were, you know, two police officers there with motorcycles, and that was it. But I walked back during that Tony Stewart yell. I walked back and when I got back to the bus, Theresa was there and she said when I got in the door, she said, he's been asking for you. And I said, oh. And so I didn't immediately think about it, but then that was there like three or four minutes. It was still under yellow. And he said, does Andy have his ears on yet? And I heard it on the radio. And she said, here, he wants to talk to you. So I got on the radio and I said, hey, Dale's Andy? He said, you having fun? You having a good time? I said, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm back at the bus. You know, everything's good. And he said, all right. He said, so anyway, you know, we Got you got any advice for me here? That's what he said. Can you imagine a road race? He got any advice for me? And I laughed just like you did just then. I just, I kind of laughed at no Dale. I mean to me watching the race as I tried to with my inexperienced eye, it looked to me like he had a 15th, 20th place car. And he just kept working his way back up to the front. So I said, dale, just keep doing what you've been doing, man. You're doing great. You're doing awesome. I'm like, what the heck else can I say to the guy? I didn't know that. That's wild. And that was it. And then it might have been the last person. Yeah, well. And there was an open overall call on the, on the radio that said green this time. And then I was like, okay, you know, see you later. Damn. Crazy. Yeah. You've never told me that. I. Yeah, we didn't speak too much after that. You know, those are things, honestly. I mean there was a lot of stuff. These letters. I kept them for 20 years before I actually started bringing them up at enthusiastic for people that would appreciate them. Yeah, yeah. I think they. You the same way. Yeah, it was. I know. I think it was just out of respect for everything. But when people come in my house and I read that letter, they're like, oh my God. Yeah, like that's Dale. And I like, yeah, yeah, Dale. Yeah, yeah. Four emails. Yeah. For email. Looks like an email. There was email. There was email. You know, and I only bring that up because after the race, after I got hundreds of emails and some of them are looking at them. Were. Were you the Andy that Dale was talking to under the full course yellow before I went back to green? About. There were like four or five at that time and I still got them. Actually I printed them off because I just wanted to keep them. But it was, it was. Well, the, the emotional reaction, man. It was, it's. It was, it was. Yeah. People. People. Really, really. And Andy called me from the coach. Yeah. And you guys all knew. Yeah. Way before anybody else. Yeah. And I'm just sitting there, we're having some beers and we're all excited. And I just. My girlfriend at the time, I just turned white. It was so surreal at the time. I mean, obviously your dad might. Sure. Yeah. I. I'd gone down to Atlanta to be with Panos. I don't know if you ever met Don Panos. He's got Owens Road Atlanta and a bunch of other stuff. Kind of a crazy Guy. These guys know him. Yeah. And I was golfing and I had radio with me, and I'm listening to the race, and the end of the race was pretty exciting. Yeah. Okay. So I'm trying to pay attention to what I'm doing. Of course, the guys I'm playing with are pissed off because they're not race fans. And so I, you know, put the radio down and finished up, and I. And I walked in into the pro shop. Okay. And of course, the guys there are all NASCAR fans and they're all looking at the tv. Right. Race was over. And I look up, and now the full screen is a picture of your dad. And it was one of those pictures that wasn't a race winner picture. Sure. It was one of those remembrance pictures. And I'm looking at that and I'm looking around, and the place is just absolutely silent and everybody's just glued to the tv. And I said to the assistant pro guy at the corner, I said, what. What's going on? He said, see, Dale was just killing that racket. I said, no way. The race was just coming down. The race was over. Yeah. No. Yeah. No, I can just remember. I'll never forget just looking up at that TV and seeing that. I get emotional about it, but seeing that full frame, I mean, it was for everybody else, it was just unbelievable. Yeah, it was just. I. I couldn't. I couldn't accept it. Yeah, it's interesting. Go ahead. Yeah, no, it's just some of the. Some of the. The respect for the man. Yeah, there was, you know, the racer. In some ways, people either loved or hated him. Right. When they were doing the introduction to Daytona, the biggest raw was for your dad. I mean, it was. I was listening to all the introductions when I was sitting there, I was like. It was the biggest raw. Could hear some booze because people didn't like him. Oh, yeah. But, man, the respect was there. All right, so we got Robin Pemberton here on the Dale Jr. Download, an old friend of mine. I forget the race. Tony Stewart and Kyle Busch got into it on something, and then we called him to the hauler. Yeah. So might have been maybe Daytona. He was. There's a night race at Daytona. Daytona. Yeah, maybe. Or was it Kurt? Tony and Kurt? Because apparently the rumor was Tony popped Kurt in the hauler. Yeah. So we're in. Mike says, okay, you guard Tony and I'll take Kyle. This is Mike. Kurt. Yeah, Kurt. Yeah. You know, and I said, okay, well, you know, so they come in and they're sitting in this they're talking and they're not getting very far with the conversation. And it's not. Nobody's bending right? And they're starting to lean up. They're leaning, leaning, leaning. They stand up. So I stand, you know, I get up and I got Tony behind me, right? And I'm kind of keeping him away. And Mike's got Kurt up here, you know, just a little bit. And Tony comes across with a left hand and just drills him. So now, I mean, the shiners, it's gonna, it's happening already, right? And we said, you know, well, we're not getting anywhere, you guys, you know, we're gonna talk about this, whatever, whatever. So they walk out and I turn to Mike. I said, you didn't tell me Tony was left handed. I'm balking him like he's right handed. You didn't tell me he was left handed. He said, hell, I didn't know. I was like, oh my God. Watch Tony's left. Jesus. Oh, man. Was that as bad as it ever got in the holler? Yeah, I think so. Oriframes is the answer to every holiday gifting moment. Never struggle again. To find the perfect holiday gift. Enjoy unlimited free photo and video uploads. 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These are the perfect pants to be wearing out there to get the job done. Upgrade your day with workwear built like it matters. Get 15% off your first order@truwork.com with code dale jr that's t r u e r k.com Todd Bodine, one of the three Bodine brothers that had success in the NASCAR world, is going to come into the room here In a moment. In 98. 99, Drake racing for CC in the 66 car with me. Man, y' all were fast. Yeah. Contenders every week. I was really lucky to be in a pretty fantastic race car myself. That helped mask some of my rookie issues. And I had some really good people around me, so I was able to get out there and compete. But we raced good together, I thought. Until we did. Until one time. Yeah, one time. And I don't know. And it was my fault. Island. Really? Yes. If you not watched the video, I know I went down in there and got stuck around and. Yeah. Yeah, that place. So I had two. I had two races at Pikes Peak and. And two bad day. Two bad days. That was one with you. And the other was Tony Stewart put me in the wall and in. In the other one. But it was a fun racetrack, but very flat. And our cars. Yeah, I mean, our cars were kind of edgy and if you got underneath somebody, you know, it's a potential to happen. But I was pretty. I was pretty proud of myself back then. By that point in the season, I had, you know, oh, I can do this. I've won a few races. I know what I'm doing. And your last name was Bodine. So it was like. Didn't help. It was like an automatic trigger for Earnhardt. But then. But after that, I don't. That we never had. Do we remember nothing? No problems after that? No, no problems. I remember. God, we thought we were such big, tough Back then and. And that happening and saying that about you. And then I was like, I wonder how he's gonna react. I don't know. I don't know. Well, now you. I don't know you well enough. You said that, but you didn't let them know what you said. Who? Oh, I got out of the car and they interviewed me and I said that cue ball headed fool wrecked me and show them what I brought. You brought him a little present today to put on with the rest of his tchotchkes. A little cue ball signed by Todd. This is one of my favorite things in the room now. So. Cue ball headed fool. Yeah. I will ask you what was your reaction when you heard that? Laughed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you're right. You were young. I think it was your first year. Right. You know, and everything our families had gone through and. Yeah. And. And that was the thing. One thing, one of my big lessons growing up was. And it's. I feel this way still today is I don't hold grudges. I don't think. Try not to think bad of people and talk bad to people because especially in our sport and what we do gonna happen, man, it's just part of the nature of the game. And if you hold grudges against people, you're gonna have no friends, you're gonna have nothing. You know, And I just. It was funny. I don't know if you remember this. I tried to find one, but I couldn't find one. That next week I made some T shirts. Did you? You never. You had. I swear you got one. It was a rack of billiard balls, but we changed all the numbers on the balls to the race card numbers that we raced with. And yours was up front and I was the cue ball. And it showed the balls all getting broken apart. Yeah. We just gave them away at the racetrack the next week. Damn it. Yeah. We have two guests coming on the show. Rico Abreu and Tony Stewart. The focus. Driving the car literally hitting the gas and driving it to the finish line is cut a good reaction time. Keep the car in the groove and be ready if you have to pedal it. If you have to just abort the run, you have to. I told our cup guys last year, you know, bunch of young guys and that they all wanted to know about. I said, you know how we make split second decisions when we drive? We all know that. Now take that split second decision and make a split second decision off of that. That's how fast your brain has to react to what is going on and what Rico asked me when feeling the tire spin, I hit the gas. Somebody. Somebody asked me the other day, they said, what's it feel like when you hit the gas in those cars? I said, I really don't know anymore because, yeah, it's accelerating like crazy. But as soon as that light changes and my eyes go to my focal point, my brain goes to the back tires to feeling what those tires are doing. If it's, you know, starting to shake a little bit, if it does start to have a light shake, will it drive? Can it drive out of it? You have to make all these decisions so fast off of feel. So your brain literally goes backwards to the car. While your eyes and everything else is going forward, you're trying to put your brain on top of those tires to feel what's going on. So it's just a whole different discipline. You really don't see cars crash very often. And the crash that Doug and I had, I mean, Doug and I raced USAC for years together, never touched wheels. And that'd be the place where if it's going to happen, that's where it's going to happen. But it's not common in drag racing, first of all. And that was a situation that he did everything in his power to keep that from happening. I mean, we're both in the first round of the countdown. You know, he's second in the points at that point. We're leading the points on that run. And now we just crashed our cars. That got us to the dance, so. But there's nothing he could do, nothing we could do. And, you know, it's. But stuff happens very, very quickly in those cars. Yeah. You said you were knocked out for a little bit. Had you ever been knocked out before? I've been knocked down a lot. That's the problem. You know, for us, I think it's kind of like when people get heat stroke, it's the easiest thing, I feel like, that you can compare to. And once somebody gets heat stroke, it's easier for them to get it again. And with concussions, it's the same way. If there's not enough time in between to let your brain catch up and heal and it'll heal. You know, that if you don't give that your brain time to heal, you're susceptible to it even easier. And, you know, we had an event at Norwalk where we literally. The two qualified runs on Friday blew up, blew up again. First round of eliminations on. On Sunday and still won the round. Had changed motors and get ready for second round. But then the next week, the next event, we go to Seattle, we blow a motor and I get a concussion out of it. How? Because of the power of the explosion of it. And you. If you watch a slow mo. And I was in. I asked the same question. I asked Leah, because Friday night after the two at Norwalk, I said, why do they keep asking me if I'm okay? And she goes, watch the replay. And she goes, don't watch the tires and don't watch the pipes and the cylinders go out. She goes, just focus on your head. Watch your head. And we're talking about a car that when it blows up, it's not decelling. It's not like you're hitting the brakes all of a sudden. You're just not accelerating anymore. But I watched the replay in slow motion. My head, it looks like I'm trying to shove my head through the dash. It goes forward. So from the compression of that explosion. Compression. Wow. D. And that's what gives you the concussion. So, you know, we. We talk about wrecks and crashes and stuff. It's. It's not physically crashing the car into a wall. There's. When those things blow up, it is violent. Yeah. And we're talking about a dragster. Imagine Matt Hagan and John Force and J.R. todd and our buddies that drive funny cars, what they go through. Because it's like being inside a trash can and somebody throws a quarter stick of dynamite inside when those things blow up. So they're just violent race cars. And. And you know, the stuff that we're used to and the things that are. Were variables we had to watch out for are different variables that we have to do on that side. Yeah. Damn. Yeah. I saw in the video after the wreck, you're getting. You're a little bit slow moving, but I don't move super fast. Anyway, I know what you should look like wasn't the one you're used to seeing. Yeah. You just move a little slow there. Yeah. But you sound great. Thanks. Yeah, no, I feel fine. I mean, I felt like somebody had dropped, literally dropped a 15 pound bowling ball off the top of a large step ladder right on top of my head for about six straight hours. Yeah. But, you know, that got better. And it's, you know, here we are three days after it, and I just feel like a telephone pole walking around. Like all the muscles are tight. So we're just like when we. If we had bad wrecks and cup cars and Xfinity cars and Sprint cars. I mean, that's the way you feel the next day. But the best thing you do is just get right back in the car. That's what loosens it up. Yeah, I'd say driving sprint cars are world outlaw and wing sprint cars. And the high limit is quite spectacular at times as well. There's a very high element of danger. You talked about the wrecks at Eldora. The, you know, how do you, how do you manage? Because I went to, I went to a race, my first race, I think a year or two ago, Lernerville, I think you came to Learnerville. Never seen anything move as fast around an oval at the limit or out of control literally. To your point, you're. Everybody out there is driving the, driving them to the edge and the commitment that you have to have just watching a car run by itself in time trials is really impressive. But then to see you guys out there in the race dodging each other for clean air, dodging what's happening to the racetrack as it starts to sort of degrade in certain areas. I, you know, just, it's. I don't know if, I guess it's so risky. I guess you have to kind of compartmentalize that and set that on the sideline and not worry about it ever. Right. About what might or could happen when things go wrong. Because we've seen some pretty scary things happen in that type of racing. Yeah. And I mean, you think about it, I mean, while you're going out there, right. And over the last few years, you know, previously years, I've had some big wrecks. I mean, you've seen the violent wrecks. Sprint cars can, it can happen. And you know, from blowing a tire and hitting the wall to, you know, crashing and wearing open wheel cars so they're not meant to beat and bang and do each other, you know, and I've, I've really studied, you know, the racers that I race against and their awareness of who's around them and how they race, when they get around guys. And I've really understood that if I want to be in this sport long term, you can't have crashes like that and put yourself in those positions of uncomfort and really tried to learn how can I continue to do this without rattling my head every other weekend? Or even just big rough tracks where you're bouncing against this headrest in the seats. I mean you can get a freaking concussion doing that. So it's, it's about managing all of that, you know, understanding where you're racing, who you're racing against and, and not pushing that extra bit when you're outside of your comfort zone. I think that you, you know, you can put yourself in big, big bad spots and, and it can be catastrophic at times if you take those big wrecks and then you got to turn around and race the next night. That's, that's the toughest part. So it's, you know, I've really tried to learn not to put myself in bad spots. And you know, if I have a 15th place car, I'm going to finish 15th tonight and I'm going to make sure this car rolls into the trailer so we can work on it and get better for the next night because everything just starts right over and it's. You got to appreciate it and you got to respect the sport that we're doing out there. Yeah, that's the hard part about it too is, you know, you take a traveling series like High Limit or World Outlaws and they're going to a track that is a weekly track. Well, yeah, he can study the guys he's racing with every week that are running the touring deal. But now you roll into a place, you don't know this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy. And you don't know what their characteristics are. You don't know how they race. You don't know if they're respectful or if they're guys that kind of race a little on the dirty edge, you know. But that's the things that you have to. That's the hard part about running any kind of a touring series that you're going and racing with weekly racers is you, you don't have that opportunity. Like what Rico said, they're amped up to come beat you too, more than your traveling guys because this is their opportunity to come beat the best, right? You got your national series coming into town and they're gonna do, you know, wild things to try to run up front and that can, you know, it can affect the race for struggling to see up close. Make it visible with viz. VIZ is a once daily prescription eye drop to treat blurry near vision for up to 10 hours. The most common side effects that may be experienced while using VIZ include eye irritation, temporary dim or dark vision, headaches and eye redness. Talk to an eye doctor to learn if VIZ is right for you. Learn more@viz.com Tony Gibson on the Dale Jr. Download we got busted because we went to Darlington and we had. That cot had just come out and Tony Jr had figured out something. We made wing mounts in the wing mounts, right? Because we found out that the Distance between the wing and the deck lid was where the downfall, right? So we ended up making a set of wing mounts. And the only way to really tell was if you measured between the deck lid and the. The wing, how much will y'. All. How much difference do you think you'd gained? Oh, we gained. It was. Well, it was 60 thou offset, so it was over an eighth. 8, 3, 16 at the deck lid. It was a lot. It's kind of like picture like this. It's kind of like the underwing or the diffuser on these cars. The closer you got that together, man, that hair would tighten up, and here would come. So Tony Jr. Figured out how to do all that and what we're going to do. So I'll never forget that. So we're pushing through tech, and we had already made it out of the Tech line, pushing it up the hill. And here comes officials. Hold on. Stop. Come back down. So we're like, what's up? Let's come back down. So we back it over there. Darby's like, back it over there against the building. So we backed it over there. And we're standing there, standing there, standing there. Here comes big Bradley. Bradley comes over there, and he's talking to Darby. And they're like, take those wing mounts off. Take the wings off. And I looked at Two Beer and I said, two Bear, they got us. He's like, oh, God. I said, well, I said, it is what it is. I said, let's just play cool, get it off the ordeal, and maybe they won't find it. They're gonna have to have a template to find this. So Bradley had stuck his little. Remember he had the little gauge, the 16. So he had stuck his gauge in it. When we went through for Tech, I'm thinking, well, that's kind of odd. Why would they do that? Who would know that? Nobody would know to check that. So somebody we feel like kind of ratted y' all out, but it is at this point. We're like, okay, we're busted. So I say, man, tell Tony Jr, tell Stiffy we're busted. Like, we're. We're done. So we back over there, take the wing mounts off and all that, and they check it, and they got this. They got a brand new set right beside it, and they got pins that drop in. So they drop them in. They wouldn't go in there, right? Yeah. So me and Two Bear are standing there, and so we're trying to find wing mounts put back on it. We're standing over there, and there's a table over there, one of them little fold up tables sitting over there. And they got them wing mounts laying. They just took off our cars laying on that table. And me and Two Bear are standing there. Two Bear looks at me and goes, oh, man, I'm gonna grab those wing mounts right there and I'm gonna take off running. He said, he says, if they can't find him, they can't throw us out. I said, two beer. They already know. He said, but if they don't have proof, how are they gonna know? He's like, I'm getting ready to grab them and I'm gonna take off running. I'll be out of this place in no time. And you know, Two beer. Oh, yeah. He was serious as a heart attack. Oh, yeah, said Two Bear. Please don't do that. He was crazy. So, Two Bear, they'll have dogs and helicopters after you hear about 15 seconds. Dude. I said, it's over, it's done. Yeah. So, yeah, they busted us. We put wing mounts on it and continued on. But Tony Jr. And that's the fun stuff that I learned from those guys was they were always thinking about, what's the next way I can stretch it? Where's that gray area I can get in or I can talk my way out of? And, you know, Tony Jr. Was always like, you always got to have a way to talk your way out of something. Whatever you get into, make sure you have a way to kind of talk your way out. At least a story. That sounds pretty good. All right, so it's going to be pretty exciting to talk to our Next guest, Edwin McCain. When I was 14 and 15, I thought that would be really cool to ride around my friends on Harley's and be rich and get wasted and, you know, but that's not. But a lot of people do that and they don't go to the place I went to. And, and what I would say is, and after going to rehab and doing a whole autopsy of the entire situation, it was an inevitability based on my brain chemistry, based on some trauma and, and based on my inability to create my own balance. And I sort of always thought that, you know, and I, I. It was my, my own doing. I never, I couldn't take my foot off the gas in. Bit in, in doing the business, like going and playing gigs and doing all that stuff, because you get a. You get to be in the cash machine for. You get to be in the thing for a minute and grab everything you grab. Yeah, no, it was like we would have family vacations planned, and you could count on two or three private events would show up right in the middle of the vacation. And my wife and I had this deal like, you know, if they come in with the number doing it, you have to, we have to, you have to do that, you know, and so I. Anyway, all that said, and part of my story was I'm so ADD and I was unmedicated, and cocaine really works well if you don't have the proper medication. So that was kind of part of my story. I started using cocaine to get up in the morning, to get up and sharp and doing that. And then we were drinking like crazy people for a two hour stretch after the show. I never drank before shows. I was always pretty disciplined when it came to that. But then, you know, we were sprinters, right? So we, like, you know what I mean? So the big, the big disaster would, would always be if there was like some kind of situation where I'd start day drinking. Like, if you, if I started drinking at noon, by 2:45, I'm a, I'm wrecked. And because I was a sprinter, I was like, yeah. You know, and, and so I remember actually, once again, at, at a NASCAR race, we had, you know, gone way off the deep end and I ended up, I think it was in Atlanta. We had just showed up as spectators, you know, and Dale Jarrett had gotten me tickets and stuff, and we all showed up in the infield and that was a disaster. And I remember catching a look on Dale's face where he was disappointed in the shape I was in. And I instantly was like, man, I got a problem with this. I got to do something about this. And I, I tried, you know, I did the thing. This is how bad an alcoholic I was. I did the thing where because everybody around me was starting to say, hey, man, you need to start, you need to think about, like, you need to tone this down. And, but, but they're not really, because I'm, I'm, I'm generating a lot of money, so there's not, they're not going to. Nobody's gonna make me stop. Yeah. Because I'm gonna tell you what to do. Yeah, I'm still turning up. I'm turning up. I, and, and so to get everybody off my back, I was like, all right, I tell you what, I'll quit drinking for a year just so you guys will know that I don't have a problem. Well, that's what real alcoholics do. So I white knuckled it for a year. Really. I got to the end of a year. You did a year? 100%. And I got at the end of a year, and I said, I tell you what, I'll throw an extra six months on it so I don't ever have to hear y' all talk about the way I drink that. Now think if put like that is some, like, next level matrix alcoholism to elbow yourself out space to really get to it the way you want to. And so when that six. That next six months got to the end, I literally went totally ballistic. And it did not take six months for me to be suicidal. Like, so bad off that I had to make the choice between living or dying. And. And. And that is such a common storyline. Like, I thought I was so unique, you know, I did. I mean, I really did. And I got to rehab and I had this terrible secret that I had, you know, planned on committing suicide. And I mustered the courage to tell this group I was in the next morning. I was like, I need to come clean about this whole plan I had. And I, you know, I told them my dramatic plan about killing myself. And this guy sitting next to me goes, yeah, welcome to the club. And everybody in the room was like, yeah, that's where it goes. That's how this ends. And I was like, wait, everybody? And they're like, welcome. Welcome to rehab. You know, And I was like, oh. And that began the journey of. Of getting rid of the ego and learning about acceptance and balance and being able to say no and. And. And owning your. And making the amends that you have to make and. And all of the. All of the things that I needed to be a good human and a good father and the friend my friends deserve and not just the ringleader of some crazy circus that I thought was hilarious. Carson Hocevar is going to be the guest to come in here. Who do you hang out with? Just a bunch of my iracing buddies. Not anyone in the industry. Not anyone. No other racers? You have no other racer buddies? Nope. None. There's not one guy that races truck, Xfinity or Cup that you would call a friend? Not. I've only. I've only hung out one time with any other driver. It was SVG and Bubba at his property one time. SVG and who? Bubba Wallace, one time. So they're. But you don't. Oh, we don't. We don't, like, hang out. Like. It was just one time. Who do you see at the racetrack that says hi to you the most? I don't know. No drivers? No. When you go up on the platform and ride around on the. It. It. Whoever I didn't run into last week, like this week, it was. I got on the podium and it was. Bowman made a joke about how he. I was getting on the slow boat because they. They were all torn up and they're starting in the back and I was qualifying third and slow boat. I just, I went to the float that had the least amount of drivers on it, and I was just like, all right. Hi. Why did you go to the float that had the least amount of driver? I was the last one. I was last one there. But I just. I just know that I don't really talk to anybody. Why do you want to be friends with drivers or is it intentional? I mean, it's not like intentional or unintentional. It's just how it worked out, you know, Like, I don't. I don't go out. I don't. When you drink. Yeah. When you were racing short tracks, did you have friends that you raced with? No. No, not really. I mean, like, I had. You're incapable. You're incapable of making, I guess, friends with people you race against. I just have. I just want to hang out with my crew guys. When you raced in the truck series, did you have any kind of, like, not. Look, I'm not saying you got to go play golf with people. I'm just saying did you have somebody that, like, when you were on a driver's intro stage, you more than likely went over and talked to them? Maybe Zane and trucks. Zane, maybe. But he was going to spire. Yeah. So like, that was. But that was like year. There you go. But like, that was like. But now you see Zane and. No, I don't. I don't. I've never, I've never hung out with a driver my whole time here. Yeah, I've never, like, hung out and just like, other than that one time. Yeah. Our first guest of the 2025 season is Richard Childress. You had a history in bootlegging, like a real. You were a real live bootlegger. Is that true? Well, it's a long story also, but when I was a kid, the question is, did you run moonshine Illegal? Yes. But here's, here's what happened. I didn't bring it down from the mountains. I was running a service station. Yeah. 11 to 7, 7 o' clock in the morning. And moonshiners would bring you on the station. You work there? I worked there. I didn't own it. Okay. I had to work there and run it at night. Now what? But 17, I think 16. 17. And these bootleggers would park the car, come in there, give me some addresses, you know where to go. These drink houses, you deliver this there, you deliver this here and you deliver it there. And I would do that. Now I did move a couple down from the mountains, but most of the time drink houses. Yeah, but I toilet. What's the drink house? A drink house is. Is right in the roughest part of town. And here's a 16, 17 year old kid and I'll tell you why I got out of it. But I was there and I would take it whiskey. And I have to sell. Give my case here, give him a case there. And guys would go collect the money and then they'd give me money to go do it. Yeah, but that's how I would do it. Drink houses where you'd go drink all night and party and raise hell. Everything. You know, back in the day. And why'd you get roughest? There was a killing and I was in the wrong. I was in the right room. I heard the gun go off and I ran. So. Damn. So that's drink houses back up old Patterson Avenue, the roughest part of town. And it was. It was. It was something. I bet. God, I could still see some of that. So is the. Are those buildings still around? Some of them now I go up. I went up there a few years back and just every now and then I'll just ride around some of these old houses like Bowman Grace Stadium. I used to deliver meat to this community down there. Where Bowman Grace. I used to deliver more chitlins and salt fish and you could ever think about eating down through them house, they're no longer there. You've done it all. I've seen a lot. Yeah. Damn. All right, man. Well. Pretty incredible. When you want to write this book. I don't know. You better get on it. I keep talking about. I know I ain't getting those younger the damn. It's going to take a long ass time to write it Will. Let me ask you a question. You talk about age. If you didn't know the day you were born, how would you be? Huh? If I didn't know the day that you were born, I just had to guess. I'd say 35. There you go. So people ask me, you know, I said, I don't. If you don't know when you were born, you do it. Know how old you are? Yeah. So I think I'm about 40 with maybe 39 years of experience. How's that? There you go. But I. I enjoyed it. Junior, back up one minute. I'm not pissed off at you. I don't remember. I don't remember all that. I mean, I remember something, but I don't remember anything that was said. Well, I couldn't even remember what it was about. Almost called Austin said, you remember why I was pissed at Junior and Casey asked. Yeah. So you don't put up with no bullshit. I know that. I appreciate you. Great conversation with Jack Sprague. Jimmy Johnson calls me because I knew him because of the dealings with Robert and his car. There used to be. I want to clear this up for the listeners. There used to be a Jimmy Johnson that ran motorsports at Hendrick Motorsports. An older fella. Yep, Yep. One older then, but yeah. Yeah. So I knew him and he called me one day and he says, hey, he said, rick's rent in Concord, Wednesday or whatever day it was. He said, but he's got a buddy that wants a car to drive and they want to play. Would you. Would you be willing to do that? And I'm thinking, so, Jimmy, this is all I own in this world that's worth anything. I said, I'm leading the points. I. I have to race Saturday. He said, it'll be all right. He said, I promise you, if something happens, it's going to be all right. Yeah. And I'm sitting there sweating. I'm like, how do you say no? But no, I almost. Dude, I almost said no. I said no. I said, okay. Tells me what time to be there. My brother and I take the car over there, Jason, and unload it beside them. Rick ain't there yet. Nobody's there yet. Rick shows up nice as could be. Like always, this limousine pulls up. I'm like, what in the hell's going on here? Door opens here, steps out, Tom Cruise. And then here comes hall legs, Nicole Kidman. Oh. I'm like, holy. This big. So they go out there and play. And Rick, I knew could drive. I mean, he pretty good driver. So could Tom. Really? Oh, yeah, really good. I mean, they weren't three, four tenths off what I'd run in. Bull. Yeah. That's not bad. Yeah. Half second at the most. So they play all day. And finally, if you remember the super late models, I mean, you got a place to sit. Then you got this nice aluminum interior. There's nothing over there except X bar. That's right. There's nowhere to sit. There is nowhere to sit. Well, she decides she wants a ride. Nicole does. Puts helmet on. There's nothing over there. She sits in there on top of that X bar, digging her heels into my aluminum. My stuff was nice. Oh yeah. And it was driving me nuts. I'm like, oh, Marty, she's scratching my up. She's got her heels dug into my aluminum interior. She's hanging on to the X bar and the top roll cage. He goes out there with her and he's only 310 slower than he's running with by himself. I'm like, yeah, that's crazy. If he hits something, there's going to be parts everywhere. Oh yeah. 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