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Corey Heim
Is it time for the Winner segment?
Dylan Hart
Speaking Speaking of rivalries.
Corey Heim
Speaking of rivalries. That's a good transition.
Dylan Hart
Hang on, hang on Let me ask you one thing, okay? After the race. So leading into this 67 restart. Are we going to restart? Right? Leading 45 gets bias driving the chicane. 67 rolls the center a lot quicker than you do. Gets in the back heavy and spins out, right? You drive back to 19th after spinning out after the race. We're always on guard when stuff happens, right? Like, I'm on channel two. Like, Dan's our car chief, cj, all the guys. I mean, hey, be at the car because I don't know what's going to happen or, hey, watch this guy, because I'm not sure what's going to happen. I'm standing on the roof and I don't see you. And I don't see you, and I don't see you. There goes 67. So I'm like, okay, well, he didn't go by the 67. What took you so long to get back to the. To back to pit road after the race?
Corey Heim
So I, you know, I crossed the line. I like, kind of took my helmet off, took my gloves off and everything, and I just went really slow and I just enjoyed the views. Like, I was like, yeah, I was like, throttle whopping at, like, fans and waving at home and everything because, like, a lot of them were cheering and, like, they're probably like, yeah, first lead lap finish on a road course.
Sponsor/Advertiser
Congrats.
Corey Heim
I'm sure they do that. Yeah, they. But no, I was just, like, I was just growing super slow. Like, I was like, we're not gonna come back here or a good shot of not ever maybe experiencing this. And I was. I was just really happy with my performance and everything. I felt like we did a really, really good job on, like, the car and direction. And so, like, I was, like, really content with, like. And we, like, went back forward. Like, we ran down the pack and then passed some more cars to get some more spots. So I just went really slow and, like, got to, like, just embracing it. Embrace the. Brace it with fans and, you know, I look like a parade lap on a local night. Like, I was waiting and I was like, you know, they probably thought you won the race. No, seriously, I was like, yeah, I was joking. I was like, man, I was not robbed of victory. Yeah, but the, you know, the fans were. Yeah, you know, they were going to see the greatest celebration of all time. Because I was. Somebody asked me, they're like, ah, you know, what happens if you win? What are you going to do when you win? And I was like, number one. I was like, bro, of Course I'm not winning, but I was like, dude, if I do win, I tell you exactly what I'm doing. I'm going to roll over to turn seven and I know exactly where a gap is. I'm going to stop my car, I'm going to roll out, I'm going to run over towards the aircraft carrier, and I'm going to go jump in the water, and I'm going to have a Navy guy come get me out. And then I'm just going to just try to go find the aircraft carrier or I'll go try. And I wanted to go drive. I knew exactly where a gap was. I was like, man, what if I went into the center of the military base past the guys?
Dylan Hart
What they are.
Corey Heim
No, no, not past a damn. A.
Race Analyst
No, no.
Corey Heim
On turn seven, where you are now, turn five, you like where the buildings were. And you could turn. The bus was. No, you could turn left where the hangars were and stuff.
Dylan Hart
Okay.
Corey Heim
I was just wanting to turn left and just go see what was around there. And I was going to go do a burnout there. I was like, I'm just going to go do a burnout in a random spot on this racetrack that they wouldn't expect me to just go do a burnout. I was just going to do it right in the military, like right in the middle of the racetrack. Right route and it. And do it. I mean, I probably got like, they would have not been thrilled about me. They probably wouldn't even had cameras there, but somebody with an iPhone would have saw it. They would have been pumped. So that's where I was like, you know, that's why I just kept reminding stuff like, I was not robbed. Yeah, the industry was, but it was gonna be. But no, I was just really happy with my performance, how fast we were, everything that I was just like, you know, I. I kind of like had the talk pre restart 2 to myself of just like, I don't know, for whatever reason, like, I wasn't like. I was just like, you know, this is all gravy. This is all house money. You know, just, you know, whether, you know, late last restart of the day, we're leading the race at a road course.
Dylan Hart
Yeah.
Corey Heim
Not really on strategy. You know, a little bit on strategy, but we went, you know, the strategy got us from third to first.
Dale Jr.
Yeah.
Corey Heim
Like, all right, well, I'll call it not strategy.
Dylan Hart
Yeah, strategy plus a good car.
Corey Heim
Strategy plus good car, the whole deal. But no, I was. But that's why I was really slow as I, you know, I had my helmet off and everything, soaking it in. Do you think we're gonna fight?
Dylan Hart
Not necessarily. I mean, the way. The way you didn't say anything on the radio after it happened, I knew. You're okay.
Corey Heim
No, I mean, I felt like that was. I felt like that was four years coming. Ish.
Dylan Hart
Yeah.
Corey Heim
And I was like, all right, fair. Yeah.
Dylan Hart
Have you had a conversation with him at all?
Podcast Host/Interviewer
Yeah.
Sponsor/Advertiser
Denny said you asked for his number.
Corey Heim
I did.
Sponsor/Advertiser
He didn't know what happened.
Corey Heim
I did. No, I was wondering that.
Sponsor/Advertiser
Yeah. He said on his show that he. He thought you were just like. Then he saw what happened. He's like, oh, I had no idea.
Corey Heim
Nah, nah, I'm. I mean, obviously he. He is very good and I'm looking forward to racing his ass off for, you know, 20 years. But, like, I don't know. I. I do enjoy racing him. Like, like on the truck side. Like, I remember Texas. I, like, looked down pit road to look at the Tricon trucks and like, I looked over and I was like, I wanted to see who was in the one this week. And I was like, ah, it's not him. I was like, okay, we'll win this week, no problem. You know, I think we can beat him, but like, it's just like it's, you know, it's going to be probably between me and him, or I think the Tricon trucks are probably the best trucks, but he's definitely by far the best at like, taking advantage of them.
Race Commentator
Yeah.
Corey Heim
And everything.
Dylan Hart
For sure.
Corey Heim
So. But no, I was. But also too, like, I probably would have been more like, damn it. You know, other places. But like, road course. I was like, I was just happy. I was fast. Like, I'm just. I was just happy. I was enjoying it and everything. And I was just in a good spot that week and everything. But I was. I was just pumped that we were fast. That was ultimately the goal.
Dylan Hart
Yeah. Good weekend on the 77?
Corey Heim
It was great. Yeah. I was happy about it. Yeah. We're fifth in practice, got stage points,
Dylan Hart
whole shebang, almost got SVG in qualifying.
Corey Heim
I know if I didn't miss that chicane. I overdrive the chicane.
Guest Racer
Yeah.
Dylan Hart
At least you both did it. Like, if you're so.
Corey Heim
He did it too. So that's what made me feel at least somewhat better too, is that he did it too. Like, he wasn't thrilled with his lap. So I was like, okay, well, like, I'm not thrilled with my lap, but neither is he.
Sponsor/Advertiser
Yeah.
Corey Heim
So if he is his best lap, it would have Been better than mine. So I'm like, I. Deserving second. Yeah, deserving second. But, I mean, it was good.
Sponsor/Advertiser
So you. You were going to talk to him today, but he's out west, so unavailable. So will you reach out to him or.
Racing Veteran/Expert
No?
Corey Heim
Well, I mean, I was excited to do the interview. I was excited. I was. Do the winter segment here, but, you know, they must not have cell service in California. Can't call in time zones. Time zone. Oh, time zones. Yeah. Nine o' clock there. It's early. I mean, I had. I had a good few questions. Yeah, I was ready to go. I was gonna ask him what his next cup race was. I was excited. Go racing?
Sponsor/Advertiser
Yeah.
Corey Heim
What?
Podcast Host/Interviewer
Yeah.
Corey Heim
No, I just didn't know. I was like, I bet he's on. I wonder if he's on the entry list.
Dylan Hart
He might be in the truck race.
Corey Heim
He wasn't on the entry list. There is no truck race this week.
Dylan Hart
No Wilkesboro.
Corey Heim
Be the next one. When is his next cup race? Chicago.
Sponsor/Advertiser
Chicago. Two weeks.
Corey Heim
This is calling me now. Hold on. Hello, brother.
Guest Racer
Are you talking about right now?
Corey Heim
You're on the air right now. Because, like, I'm. We're recording right now.
Guest Racer
Oh, well, that's even better.
Corey Heim
Yeah.
Guest Racer
Or do I need to call Envy? The link.
Corey Heim
Hit the link. They're. They're saying hit. Hit the link so they can get, you know, they. They want to be able to put you in the thumbnail.
Guest Racer
All right, stand by. I'm coming.
Corey Heim
All right, pause. What a guy. Well, so he calls me on every podcast that he, like, does and everything and guest appearances. So he called me. Well, he does his podcast at like 7:00am so, like, Dale does his at like 8:30. 8:30, maybe.
Dylan Hart
It's a dad.
Corey Heim
Cletus does it at like 7 and whatever. And so legitimately, the Monday after Tall Day, he calls me and he's like, I don't know why I didn't answer. Like, bro, I'm like, I'm in bed. So then.
Sponsor/Advertiser
Because they're not active drivers. That's why.
Corey Heim
Well, I. I know, but like, so the next week he calls me and, like, it wakes me up. But like, I was. I look over and he's like, you know, I was like, Cletus McFarlane calling. And I was like, I didn't answer last week. I gotta answer. So I swipe and I go. I go, man. He's just like, what are you doing? I was like, I'm up, man. Or he's like, are you up? I'm up. What are you doing? And I, like, do this with my eyes. Like, as I'm waking up, I look around and I'm like, what am I doing? I don't know. I'm just up. And I died laughing, going back, but, like, I 100% just woke up. I had no idea. I had no idea that, like, I was in a daze. Cliffs, do you hear us?
Guest Racer
Yeah, I gotcha. You got me.
Corey Heim
Yeah, I got you. Well, so you call me all the time on the podcast, and I'm here. I got Tyler Green. He's filling in for TJ Majors. I'm Dale. Dale Jr. This week. I just figured I would call you. Did you watch San Diego?
Guest Racer
Absolutely.
Corey Heim
What do you think of the street courses? Would you be able to put. Would you be better at drifting around the street courses or driving a NASCAR around it?
Guest Racer
Brother, I think I'd do good at a street course. You know, it's a little more my style, so I. All these guys have perfected turning left, so I think I'd have a little bit more even.
Corey Heim
So I, weirdly enough, feel like I'm way better at the street courses than I am the regular road courses because I have defined limitations of where I gotta go. You can only go to the outside wall and the inside wall.
Guest Racer
Huh.
Corey Heim
I kind of see that basic plus chaos.
Dylan Hart
Less drive and chaos.
Guest Racer
Yeah, I mean, well, you're just a. You're a natural winner. You know, you're Carson freaking Host of our. So obviously, you know, here how much that. That makes a lot of sense, but I do agree. And, you know, I started out in road course racing versus, you know, this turning left in an oval situation turns out way more complicated than it looks. So I like the idea of just here's. Here's where you got to go. And I'm. I can hit an apex, you know, I can't necessarily run the groove in the perfect.
Corey Heim
Tell you what, I tell you what, there's less pit stops in. In road course racing.
Dylan Hart
Less.
Corey Heim
Less green flag entries for you.
Guest Racer
That could be very helpful in my case.
Corey Heim
That's so good. That's pretty much all I had for you, brother.
Guest Racer
I think next year we'll find out what's next. Vega Talladega, you know, our track, our spot. I'll be a dega in the. Nice truck.
Corey Heim
Oh, yeah, There you go. Nice truck. They almost had a shot to win that.
Guest Racer
I know. I was pumped, too. It's looking good.
Corey Heim
All right, brother. Well, thanks for jumping on real quick. That's all I have.
Guest Racer
Absolutely, brother. But you have a great.
Corey Heim
I had to Keep up the great work.
Podcast Host/Interviewer
Thank you.
Guest Racer
Keep being a winner.
Race Commentator
I'm gonna try.
Corey Heim
I'm gonna keep it up.
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Race Analyst
I, I think it is a very Tyler Reddick move. I think he, that's his character in a nutshell. If I have to give you my honest opinion, 99% of the field would just say, I'll apologize later. But that's, I mean, that's who Tyler Redick is and he wants to race fair. And, you know, I think he, when, when Quarry was behind him and Quarry chose not to touch him, he felt the need to pay that back. And I think what he felt as though. And again, I'm trying to play psychologist here, but you know, what if, if I'm good enough to win, I'll just pass him back. You know, you got a rookie here that only got a few races. Surely if I can just put pressure on him, maybe he'll make a mistake and I'm just going to get him back eventually, so I'm gonna give it up. I, I, I, I I. He was ahead of me before I did him dirty. So I'm gonna put him back where he was, where he belonged. And you know, it's interesting, things like that happen throughout the Field all the time. The, the people don't know it and the TV doesn't tell the entire picture. Like Michael McDowell came over to me after the race. He's like God, man, I hate I put you in that bad spot. He's like, I hope you saw that two corners later gave me the spot right back. You know what I mean? So like. Which impeded his progress that he was making at the time. But he was like eh. I just, he's like, I just didn't feel good about it and he gave me the spot back. So that's, that's, that's the right way to race.
And, and this too, this was very much a race between Tyler and Corey at this time. The third place is 10 seconds back. So by Tyler letting him go, he's not affecting his, his, you know, positioning, falling to third, whatever it may be.
Dale Jr.
Yep.
Race Analyst
It's just those two guys, one on one, some other drivers in the field. We thought this was going to be an SVG day through and through, but he ends this one in the garage.
You know, this is kind of like this is, this is the. What the field needs to beat him is he's just going to have, let me just say this, if it's based off of speed and all that stuff, he's, he's, he would win every time. But in NASCAR sometimes you get unlucky and he got unlucky today and I've been frankly very surprised he's not been caught up in something in other races. But I think he's just been so damn fast at the other races. He's in control of it. He'll flip a stage and still be so fast that he makes it back into the top 10 field pits, he cycles back to the lead.
Race Engineer/Mechanic
So
Race Analyst
this is like the only way to beat him, you know. And it's not intentional. You know. Austin Hill overcooked. He overcooked turn one. You know, I kind of watched it, saw where he drove into, got on the brakes hard, got you know, just up the racetrack in the Conner. Talk about a nightmare year. By the way, freaking Connor. I sucks for him. I'm a big Connor fan but it's, he has just had just some luck and some learning curve year. It's just not been good all around. But you know, an SVG was just wrong place, wrong time and just you know, got bitten by the unlucky, wrong place, wrong time, NASCAR bug.
Podcast Host/Interviewer
So you know, take me, take me from beginning to end in terms of either someone brings you a program that's going to happen or a car, the host of a win and the process and steps that that needs to happen
Diecast Production Expert
in that time frame, okay, they are, they are a little different. So when we're reacting truly to what's happening right. Right then, and then the car, it can be very, very planned out. So touch on the race win very briefly. So essentially we have a photographer that travels to every single race as a company that, that takes photos for others as well. Their job is once that car goes through victory, they take rotations of that car art and they send it to us by Sunday night. Typically, unless there's some uniqueness to the win, which we've had with Monster, we have some restrictions of what we can produce. So that that's a little bit different. But generally speaking, by Sunday night, that car is out and available for sale. We create item numbers depending on what happens, what track, what sponsor, what driver. We put that out to our customers. So when I say our customers, the NASCAR.coms of the world or the teams of the world, you know, the, the NASCAR hall of fame, anybody who sells Diecast. And then we also put it up on our site and we immediately begin accumulating orders. I'll pause there. On a normal car, what will happen is we will get car art from the team. The timing of that depends on what we've kind of touched on. Does the sponsor want to hold it back? Is, are they willing to work kind of in the background? When can we release the sales sheet? But essentially what happens is we get this, we get a piece of car. We then have to transfer that car art onto our template. Our template then wraps onto the wireframe which allows us to create a 3D, which is what you see on sale sheets or what you see online. We establish item numbers for it. It goes through approval process. So to make any car, we've got multiple licenses involved. We've got the team, which usually represents the driver, team, sponsor, although in historics and stuff like that, there, there could be multiple players in that space. We have a license with Goodyear that's an automatic. We have a license with NASCAR who has to approve it. And we have a license with whichever the OEM is. And so the OEMs typically have given us pre approval rights based on. Because they're really approving the marks on the car and the body of the car. NASCAR goes through and approves it, make sure everything, all their marks are in place. And then the team is obviously checking for the driver team and the sponsor side. So once the artwork is put on to our template and is put into that 3D rotate. That view that gets sent off, gets approved. Once we get approval, that gets uploaded to the factory. The factory then transfers it to essentially a decal supplier. So if you've ever done modeling, which we now have a whole category of models, There are the water slide decals. The kind of slimy little water slide decals. That's essentially how we decorate the majority of these cars. Um, and so a 24 scale will have roughly 18 different parts and pieces. So there's like the headlight area, there's the hood area, there's the roof flap. And somebody like the. The roof, when it gets put down, is entire decal. That somebody takes an x acto knife and traces the. Traces the flaps.
Podcast Host/Interviewer
And that's on every single car.
Diecast Production Expert
On every single car.
Podcast Host/Interviewer
So what part of these are automated or hand touched and done?
Diecast Production Expert
The deco is completely. I mean, it uses machines like it for. So for the marks on the windshields. That's a process we call tampa printing it. Basically, each station has a different color. So now they have multiple machines that do multiple colors. So, like, you can hit like, the black bar and then the white of the name on one machine.
Podcast Host/Interviewer
Gotcha.
Diecast Production Expert
But somebody is taking that windshield, Putting it onto a piece. It slides down, hits multiple times, and then puts it into the finish tray and then takes the next one. And so, you know, but the. The body of the car is decorated by hand through these water slide decals. Primarily. There's. There's. There are exceptions. Certain colors are better to be done through tampo printing. The metallics have to be done as a separate decal. So if we have a metallic number car, which I think we've had over there. Yep. So that has to be done through a separate decal.
Podcast Host/Interviewer
But.
Diecast Production Expert
But basically, after we've. We've put the sales sheet out, We've tabulated the orders, we've placed the P.O.S. the cars then get scheduled. So from P.O. to.
Dylan Hart
To.
Diecast Production Expert
To time, the ready to ship is eight to 10 weeks. It then goes in its package, which there's a whole other workflow for the package.
Podcast Host/Interviewer
Yeah. For approvals of all that.
Diecast Production Expert
That has to come together at the time we have finished goods gets on a container already, gets loaded here.
Sponsor/Advertiser
Yeah.
Diecast Production Expert
And then we ship it out. So it's.
Sponsor/Advertiser
It is.
Diecast Production Expert
It is a very exhaustive process.
Podcast Host/Interviewer
And so minimal. What can you do minimally in amount of time to make something happen?
Diecast Production Expert
Four months for a real production.
Podcast Host/Interviewer
Like if you just had everyone's cooperation along the way.
Diecast Production Expert
And yeah, I Mean, you got at
Podcast Host/Interviewer
least, of course you got to air freight or something.
Diecast Production Expert
But yeah, air, air freight would be in. So you're, you're at, I mean you're four.
Podcast Host/Interviewer
Yeah, four, four months. And at. And in most cases where it's probably a six or eight month process.
Diecast Production Expert
Closer to six.
Sponsor/Advertiser
Yeah, six months.
Podcast Host/Interviewer
Yeah.
Diecast Production Expert
There are windows. You know, the other thing we contend with is, and people have heard us talk about this Chinese New Year. Chinese New Year is a holiday that moves around.
Podcast Host/Interviewer
Yes.
Diecast Production Expert
Because it's the lunar New year. And so it has about a three to four week impact on the factories. Workers start leaving early, they're gone for the holiday. Then they, they trickle back. So, you know, that affects things. And it, it falls right around our super bowl, which is Daytona. Right. So it always makes it really challenging.
Podcast Host/Interviewer
Very challenging.
Diecast Production Expert
Yeah. You know, some, some years it's early, some years it's late. This year actually it was like almost right on Daytona, which was nice because you've got all that time to work up to the, the big race. So yeah, there's, there's all these factors that are kind of happening. Capacity, Peak season, we're at a toy factory. Right. So we're now entering peak season, which means there's a higher demand for workers. So we might have had a slightly better schedule going into this time of year. And now it's going to elongate by a week or two weeks for, for these things.
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Podcast Guest/Former Racer
Ray when did you kind of know that Jeff Gordon was going to be somebody or be a star? Early on?
Racing Veteran/Expert
First time I ever saw him drive, right? So the first time I ever saw him drive live, I used to watch him on Thursday Night Thunder. I was like this kid is before
Race Commentator
you were born again.
Race Engineer/Mechanic
He was.
Podcast Guest/Former Racer
I know what it is though.
Racing Veteran/Expert
I was looking something I I'm actually gonna drive a midget indy tomorrow.
Podcast Guest/Former Racer
Really?
Racing Veteran/Expert
Bc39 advertisement thing but I got the fire suit out and I was like, my fire suits older than you? Yeah, you wait.
Race Commentator
It better be approved.
Racing Veteran/Expert
It's better have those. My old IROC fire suit, you know,
Race Engineer/Mechanic
I think it's like 10 years or something, right? That's allowed. Yeah.
Racing Veteran/Expert
Well yeah, this is from, from 1980.
Podcast Guest/Former Racer
Well if it's older than me, it's at least 25 years old.
Racing Veteran/Expert
This is 1987. So. So. Andy Petrie was doing a program at that time with Leo Jackson's son in law and they said hey Phil and Steve Barkdahl and they said will you come down and help us with this kid? Because I had left IROC and I was trying to run all my own stuff. I was building cars and trying to race and all that and we came down to Charlotte so that would have been 90, 1990 and we had one car, right. And it was a Buck Baker School Car, a Pontiac with a Chevrolet V6. And it. We didn't have the Buick powerful motor, eight tires and wheels had borrowed everything. And Chuck Bowne was there, and he was the reigning champion at that time. And we got at Charlotte, you know, they got to observe Jeff to, you know, say he's approved for the race. And I said, chuck, will you just check this car out? And so he goes out and drives around. He goes, no, that's okay. Good for the kid. You know, talk to him a little bit. And so Jeff gets in the car, and I don't think anything of it. I climb up on top of the hauler. The radio's on. He's sitting there. He's like, just sitting there. And I'm like. And his hand comes out the window, and he goes. He motions, you know, come down. I go down the ladder. I was like, what's up? He goes, how do you start this? So, you know, we go,
Race Commentator
what a. Whatever.
Racing Veteran/Expert
But he went out. I guess what I'm saying is he went out, and then I think it was less than five laps. Maybe it was more than five laps. I don't know. But regardless, he was running about a tenth of a second faster than what Chuck Bound had run with the car. And he got in the bumps. Remember, the bumps used to be low at Charlotte? Got in the bumps, gets completely sideways, Just straighten something out, keeps going. I said, hey, man, come on in here. Let's talk. And he comes in, I go, you all right? He goes, yeah, I'm all right. Are you all right? You know, I said, you can't keep doing that, you know, it'll be. You can't, you know, or you won't be all right, you know, and he just was so good all day long. But his, you know, talking about Corey Heim, Jeff's maturity inside the car was like a different person outside the car. He's breakdancing, playing with a Game Boy. He. I mean, he had. But inside the car, yeah, Game Boy, yeah. Yeah.
Race Commentator
But you don't even know.
Podcast Guest/Former Racer
I almost bought a Game Boy Lego set yesterday to make all this stuff from the 90s.
Race Engineer/Mechanic
90s is popular.
Guest Racer
Yeah, it's coming back.
Podcast Guest/Former Racer
I'm not bringing back low rise jeans, though.
Racing Veteran/Expert
He. Well, I'll. I'll tell you a story about. He used to tuck his shirt in those long jeans, too. So I still bust him about that. But his ability, you know, through my years at iroc, the one thing that I learned, the. The great champions have an ability to take describing the car to another level. And you've worked with people, you know what I'm talking about, right. And they. They go another level in description of what they're feeling or what the car's doing. And you're like, whoa, this kid is. I knew he was his ability to drive the car and then describe what it was doing. Like, things like, hey, when I go in the corner, I feel like the weight rolls over to here, and then it's in right front. And then as I'm getting to the gas, I feel honestly like the left rear is driving, has this thing got a locker in it, you know, stuff like that, you know, And I'm like, he's never run Charlotte before. And going probably faster than he's gone, you know, in that Midget. And boom, boom, boom.
Race Commentator
Tony Stewart was the same way when he first drove with me.
Racing Veteran/Expert
You're like, there's. It's just a different level. They've got a different dimension in what they feel.
Race Commentator
I watched a clip on Tony last night. I don't know what show it was on, but he described the. Some things. It's like, I wish all these kids would listen to this. I gotta go find it and post it. But it's a.
Podcast Guest/Former Racer
Post it on what?
Race Commentator
I don't know. I can tell my guy to post it. But, yeah, it's the. Again, the select few have that know all these things that can then pick these cars apart and do the things that need to be doing. I mean, Kyle Larson's.
Racing Veteran/Expert
Yeah, another one of those guys.
Race Commentator
Ones that fit. Fit in there. You know, it's.
Racing Veteran/Expert
Well, again, going back to that, slowing the game down, like a second to you and me is one thing. A second to them is much different. Yeah, much different. You know, like, I mean, I drove.
Dale Jr.
I don't know if you drove much, but.
Racing Veteran/Expert
But, you know, the point is, I'm driving around there and all I care about is not wrecking.
Race Commentator
Right.
Race Engineer/Mechanic
You know, like, mostly because it was
Race Commentator
your car and you didn't afford. You couldn't afford to put it back together in the beginning.
Racing Veteran/Expert
But the ability to do that and think and describe is that difference. And. And Roger Penske has a good saying about, hey, they look out of a bigger windshield. And that's really what it's about, you know, like, they're. You know, Jeff used to be able to think about positioning on the racetrack and. And getting ready to pit and. And saving fuel and doing all those things at the same time, leading those races.
Race Commentator
Yep.
Race Engineer/Mechanic
I. I call it higher mental bandwidth in sports car. I've gotten to Work with some gentlemen drivers and a lot of very high level pros and cons within the first five minutes on the radio. I can tell you who's who, even if you haven't anything about it. Just because they're so good at describing every little piece. And it goes back to your process discussion too. As a mechanic on pit lane, if I'm listening to a driver describing this, this, and this, I start thinking in my head already, all right, we're probably going to have to move the bar. We might have to get these springs or do.
Podcast Guest/Former Racer
Yeah, it kind of almost makes everybody better because you kind of already know
Race Engineer/Mechanic
what's coming up and makes your car faster. Yeah, you got to have those top level people to do do that.
Podcast Guest/Former Racer
Yeah, that's such an. Like, I. I'm just thinking about where we started with that and then where it ended and just the whole breakdown of how far into.
Racing Veteran/Expert
You're ready to go back racing.
Podcast Guest/Former Racer
No, I'm not. I'm saying, like, I'm genuinely interested in the breakdown of it all. Am I done racing?
Racing Veteran/Expert
You're done.
Podcast Guest/Former Racer
I. I guess I'm like Tom Brady retired is what I call it.
Race Commentator
You are not Tom Brady.
Podcast Guest/Former Racer
I'm semi retired.
Dale Jr.
You.
Racing Veteran/Expert
You want to go run a midget tomorrow?
Podcast Guest/Former Racer
Yeah.
Race Engineer/Mechanic
All right.
Racing Veteran/Expert
I. I'll call Doug Bowles and say
Podcast Guest/Former Racer
hey, tell him I'll do inset. Yeah, my fire suits. SFI approved too.
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Racing Veteran/Expert
I think I just brought that out because I know if a spark hits, it'll just go poof.
Race Commentator
Oh, yeah, it'll disappear all right.
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Episode Title: Is Hocevar & Heim NASCAR's Next Great Rivalry?
Release Date: June 26, 2026
Host: Dale Earnhardt Jr. (Dirty Mo Media/SiriusXM)
This episode of The Dale Jr. Download explores the rapidly developing rivalry between NASCAR talents Carson Hocevar and Corey Heim. Through candid conversation and firsthand insight, Dale Jr. and his guests break down pivotal moments from recent races, discuss the nature of respectful competition, share behind-the-scenes perspectives, and reflect on what makes a great driver. The episode seamlessly blends humor, storytelling, and deep-dive analysis, offering fans both entertainment and education.
(Starts ~02:33)
Corey Heim:
"I just went really slow and I just enjoyed the views... I was, like, throttle whopping at fans and waving at home... just embracing it." (03:32)
Memorable Heim Moment:
"If I do win, I tell you exactly what I’m doing. I’m going to roll over to turn seven... and I’m going to jump in the water and have a Navy guy come get me out." (04:40)
(06:47 – 08:26)
(12:01 – 14:24)
Hocevar:
"Brother, I think I’d do good at a street course... these guys have perfected turning left, so I think I’d have a little bit more even." (12:31)
Hocevar:
"Next year we’ll find out what’s next. Vega, Talladega, you know, our track, our spot..." (13:57)
(17:52 – 19:56)
Race Analyst:
"If I have to give you my honest opinion, 99% of the field would just say, I’ll apologize later. But that’s who Tyler Reddick is and he wants to race fair." (18:12)
(20:07 – 21:57)
(21:57 – 28:09)
Diecast Expert:
"A 24 scale will have roughly 18 different parts and pieces... the body of the car is decorated by hand through these water slide decals." (24:56)
(30:09 – 35:46)
Racing Veteran:
"The great champions have an ability to take describing the car to another level... when I go in the corner, I feel like the weight rolls over to here, and then it’s in right front…" (33:18)
| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote/Highlight | |-----------|---------|----------------| | 03:32 | Corey Heim | "I just went really slow and I just enjoyed the views... just embracing it." | | 04:40 | Corey Heim | "If I do win, I tell you exactly what I'm doing... I'm going to go jump in the water and have a Navy guy come get me out." | | 12:31 | Carson Hocevar | "Brother, I think I’d do good at a street course... these guys have perfected turning left..." | | 18:12 | Race Analyst | "99% of the field would just say, I’ll apologize later. But that’s who Tyler Reddick is and he wants to race fair." | | 24:56 | Diecast Production Expert | "A 24 scale will have roughly 18 different parts and pieces... the body of the car is decorated by hand..." | | 33:18 | Racing Veteran | "The great champions have an ability to take describing the car to another level..." |
Fans of NASCAR and motorsports will appreciate the blend of candid storytelling, behind-the-scenes revelations, and the joyfully competitive banter that defines this episode.