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Fair. Right. Need to even give more thought because this thought just popped in my mind. But, you know, obviously, yeah, we talked about the investment. So they've, they've sat here and they've made these investments under the business model that they knew was the business model and under the business model that Denny Hamlin's known ever since he's been in the sport. And so, you know, here he is, has brought Jordan in to the business model. They've invested all of this stuff. And then, not that it's all of a sudden a problem, but I think the real problem is the permanency, lack of permanency for the charter. Yeah, in the same breath, you know, and I said this to you in earlier, is what is it ultimately that they want? And you know, is, is it a certain level of investment return that they want? We were talking about one of the points that, you know, I thought was really interesting is there's a lot of conversation about NASCAR making $100 million last year. Well, every business that I know of is trying to be in business to be profitable. If you're not in business to be profitable, then I don't really know what you're doing in business. And most businesses want to make 30 to 50% return. So I don't know what a hundred million is of what I don't know the revenue number of NASCAR. If it's 10%, it's not that much revenue. Even though $100 million is a lot of money, but not in the scheme of the business that you're running. If it's 50%, then, hey, give up a little bit. But I think it's that permanency in terms of the seven year agreement. So they want to try to get more if it's going to be permanent. So this seven year, every seven years gives them the opportunity to negotiate for more. So I'm just really curious, like where, you know, I've seen the conversation with Jordan, you know, when he sold the Hornets, what he make, 400 million? I don't know. Something crazy, you know, is that what they're trying to get to when charters are only trading for, you know, 45 million right now? I think it's crazy that a charter trades for 45 million on a seven year, not permanent agreement, which is crazy. We've talked about that, you know, in our whole couple of years of trying to acquire charter. It's like you don't want to invest that much money when in seven years you don't know what it's going to look like. So I get that part of their argument. You know, I get that part of the argument. But at the same time, they've made a lot of investment. Bob Jenkins has made a lot of investment and he's been doing it for, I don't know how long he's been in business. Fifteen years, you know, and made the investments year after year after year and, you know, hadn't closed up or hadn't said a word or, you know, whatever it is. Right. So same thing for our business. We're in the same boat. You know, we make a little money some years. We don't make a little money some years. And we love what we do and, you know, it's what we know, it's our platform, it's our brand, you know, and we, you know, if we wanted to do something different, we would. Right. To go out and make money elsewhere or whatever. So, yeah, it's really interesting what the ultimate goal is for that they're fighting for. Well, I know what the lawsuit says they are trying to prove, but I don't know what their ultimate goal.
