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Episode: Marcus Smith on Why The ROVAL is Gone…For Now

Air Date: February 3, 2026
Host: Kelly Earnhardt Miller (filling in for Dale Jr.), Dirty Mo Media
Guest: Marcus Smith, President of Speedway Motorsports

Episode Overview

This episode focuses on a major schedule shakeup in NASCAR: Charlotte Motor Speedway's Roval will revert to the traditional oval layout for the playoff race ("for now"). With Dale Jr. away, Kelly Earnhardt Miller hosts an insightful, candid conversation with Marcus Smith about the reasoning behind these changes, their impact on teams and fans, additional updates on North Wilkesboro Speedway and Dover, and broader themes around NASCAR's culture, innovation, and point systems.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Why the ROVAL is Replaced by the Oval (04:11–10:20)

• Genesis of the Decision

  • Decision sparked during a routine Charlotte team strategy meeting in January, led by Jessica Fickensher, who suggested returning to the oval for the October playoff race.

  • The idea had been floated before (especially by Dale Jr.), but the timing and context made it resonate this year.

    “Jessica Fickensher said, smart lady—she said, 'What do you think about going back to the oval in October?'...I said, if you guys think the fans will like this and it'll be the best thing, certainly the racing is good…so that was kind of how it happened.”
    — Marcus Smith (04:19)

• Fan and Partner Feedback

  • Marcus emphasized that fan excitement and preferences guided the final decision, validated through conversations with NASCAR, TV partners, and Bank of America (the event sponsor).

  • The initial introduction of the Roval in 2018 came as road courses were surging in popularity; however, recent changes to the car and officiating diminished its excitement.

    “...the way NASCAR officiates the racing hasn't been as exciting as it had been initially. So, you know, we want to deliver excitement...Those amazing, highlight worthy moments in racing.”
    — Marcus Smith (06:44)

• Impact on Teams, Drivers, and Fans

  • Return to the oval allows expanded camping (especially in Turn 1 & 2), simplifies operations, reduces conversion labor, and could increase event atmosphere.

  • Drivers have mixed, but generally positive feedback. Dale Jr. notably claimed vindication:

    “The best driver feedback I had was from Dale. He said: ‘If you’d start listening to me, you’d make this decision two years ago.’”
    — Marcus Smith (07:50)

2. Strategic Outlook: Will the Oval Stay? (10:20–11:26)

• Marcus indicated adaptability is key: The Roval isn’t gone forever, but the classic oval is “here for now”—they’ll revisit which layout best serves fans and the sport on a year-to-year basis.

  “...after reviving North Wilkesboro Speedway, there’s nothing that’s not doable...for now we’re going to be running the oval, but we’ll see what happens.”
  — Marcus Smith (10:28)

• The Roval will still be used for sports car experiences and private events outside of NASCAR.

3. North Wilkesboro: From Abandoned to Points Race (16:16–20:22)

• Marcus detailed the emotional and economic revitalization of North Wilkesboro, crediting team effort and especially Dale Jr.’s advocacy.

• The Speedway, once thought “impossible” to revive, will now host its first points-paying NASCAR race in 30 years.

  “To me, it actually kind of feels like a mission trip...This is rebuilding a special place in a community that brings the community together, that creates great economic impact.”
  — Marcus Smith (17:39)

4. All-Star Race Moves to Dover: The Rationale (19:13–22:48)

• The All-Star Race shifts to Dover for the first time. This gives Northeast fans a marquee event and potentially better May weather.

• North Wilkesboro hosts the points race instead.

• The All-Star format was discussed: Marcus highlighted the race’s experimental history (choose cone, segment racing, restarts), emphasizing their willingness to innovate and take risks.

  “If you’re not taking risk, then you’re not trying enough to move your business forward.”
  — Kelly Earnhardt Miller (22:42)

5. Upcoming Events: Ten Tenths Motor Club, Heritage Invitational, IROC Revival (23:23–25:57)

• Marcus announced the Ten Tenths Motor Club and a new Heritage Invitational event featuring the IROC (International Race of Champions) cars on a private road course in April.
• The event is open to the public and will celebrate historic racing with a car show atmosphere.

6. Playoff & Points System Shakeup (26:15–36:22)

• Both Marcus and Kelly reflected on the playoff/points format change: NASCAR is returning to a “classic,” season-long points system, eliminating cut-off races and the “winner-take-all” final.

• Marcus values simplicity—“just give me the rules and let’s go play.”

• Both shared nostalgia for the old system but recognized new fans might find it fresh.

  “You can’t really have one without the other. You’ve got to have the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat. Second place shouldn’t be all that great, I think.”
  — Marcus Smith (29:03)

• Marcus and Kelly discussed how many drivers (and likely crew chiefs and new fans) have never raced under this old system—making 2026 a unique, “back to the future” year for NASCAR.

  “It might be similar with our fans...We have new fans coming in all the time and they haven’t seen the old style of points racing before. So this is a kind of a back to the future moment.”
  — Marcus Smith (34:36)

7. Culture, Collaboration, and the “Underdog Mentality” (37:35–39:28)

• After years of legal tension, Marcus and Kelly express optimism for a more united NASCAR ecosystem in 2026: teams, tracks, and NASCAR aligning for fans’ benefit.

  “...if NASCAR and teams and promoters and our media partners...by working together, we can do really great things...And I hope that all of us...really consider ourselves as underdogs, because that’s when we’re at our best.”
  — Marcus Smith (37:41/39:28)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dale Jr.’s Influence on Oval Revival:
  “If you’d start listening to me, you’d make this decision two years ago.”
  — Marcus Smith (07:50)

• On Fan-Centered Change:
  “What I think is neat is that all of those parties care about what the fans think.”
  — Marcus Smith (06:05)

• On Taking Risks in Racing Promotion:
  “If you’re not taking risk, then you’re not trying enough to move your business forward, for sure.”
  — Kelly Earnhardt Miller (22:42)

• On the New Points System:
  “Just give me the rules and let’s go play and then see what happens.”
  — Marcus Smith (27:09)

• On North Wilkesboro’s Revival:
  “It actually kind of feels like a missions trip...rebuilding a special place in a community.”
  — Marcus Smith (17:39)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:51 — Marcus Smith joins; announcement tease.
• 04:11 — Decision process to drop the Roval for 2026.
• 07:50 — Dale Jr.’s feedback on the oval.
• 10:20 — Will the oval stay or could the Roval return?
• 16:16 — North Wilkesboro’s renaissance and impact.
• 19:13 — Strategy behind moving the All-Star Race to Dover.
• 23:23 — Ten Tenths Motor Club and Heritage Invitational/IROC event.
• 26:15 — In-depth discussion of the new NASCAR playoff/points structure.
• 34:36 — "Back to the future" for point systems—many drivers and fans haven’t seen this before.
• 37:35 — Renewed focus on collaboration and “underdog mentality.”

Tone and Style

The tone is candid, insightful, and occasionally humorous—especially with stories about Dale Jr.’s passion for the oval and Kelly's family anecdotes. There's mutual respect and admiration between Kelly and Marcus. The discussion is optimistic, emphasizing adaptability, innovation, and a fan-first approach.

Summary for Non-Listeners

If you missed it: This episode offers a rare insider perspective on how and why major track and format decisions are made in NASCAR, and the unique place the 2026 season holds as a bridge between old and new eras. Marcus Smith details the blend of nostalgia, fan demand, operational ease, and strategic thinking behind moving Charlotte’s playoff race back to the oval, what goes into such a significant change, and how Speedway Motorsports is innovating while paying homage to racing’s roots. The episode is also a great exploration of why and how the sport is constantly willing to evolve—sometimes coming full circle for the benefit of fans, teams, and the community.