The One Thing Keeping Dodge From The Cup Series...

Summary

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The Dale Jr. Download – "The One Thing Keeping Dodge From The Cup Series..."

Podcast: The Dale Jr. Download
Host: Dale Earnhardt Jr. (Dirty Mo Media, SiriusXM)
Date: July 3, 2026
Episode Focus: The status of Dodge returning to NASCAR's Cup Series, with extra stories and insight from racing insiders.

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Dale Jr. Download delves deep into the persistent rumors and realities regarding Dodge’s potential return to the NASCAR Cup Series—spotlighting the key obstacle holding it back. Alongside this central discussion, the crew shares stories from the road, reflects candidly on the current state of NASCAR, and offers personal insights on life, faith, and family.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Dodge and the Cup Series: Breaking Down the Barriers

[19:08 - 21:45]

• Rumors addressed: Dodge could enter Cup as soon as 2027, but nothing is final.
• Key obstacle: Engines.
  • Unlike other NASCAR series (e.g., Trucks, where spec engines are allowed), Cup requires manufacturers to supply their own engines.
  • Matt Colletti: “The only reason Dodge left...is they didn’t have an engine...Penske was building engines. They had no engine and nowhere to go.”
    [20:21]
  • On Ram’s return: It’s viable in Trucks due to spec engines from Ilmor, but not Cup.
  • Colletti: “In Cup, you have to have your own engine. So engine is the biggest problem right now.”
    [20:21]
  • On rumors: “Are we working hard towards it? Absolutely...It would be great for the sport.”
    [20:36]
  • Engine development is not as easy as "just doing an engine."
  • The Colleague Racing team expresses their passion for making Dodge’s return a reality, but stresses there is no formal commitment yet.

2. SVG’s Road Course Dominance & Championship Picture

[07:08 - 13:40]

• Discussion on Shane van Gisbergen (SVG) and recent road course races.
  • Elliott Sadler highlights SVG’s unique approach: “There’s a few [corners] where it’s like: wow, I never thought to approach that corner that way.” [08:06]
  • Drivers are catching up to SVG’s techniques, narrowing his advantage: “The field sees that and eventually, they close it.”
• Chase prospects debated:
  • SVG not always in the best car, but extracting maximum performance from what he has.
  • Avoiding “out to lunch” races and maintaining consistent finishes (16th-18th) will be crucial.
  • Sadler: “If you can avoid [bad weeks] over the next eight weeks, I think he can hold that over a Cedric, Jones, Keselowski...” [11:53]

3. Inside Stories: Life on the NASCAR Road

[01:31 - 06:29]

• Post-race camaraderie in California:
  • The group shares a travelogue from San Diego to Santa Barbara to Monterey along the Pacific Coast Highway.
  • Bar-hopping and the amusing "miniature Jesuses" hidden around a dive bar. Steven B.: “All around the room, they had all these tiny little Jesuses hiding everywhere...so I brought them.” [03:06]
  • Sparked an on-air prank of hiding mini Jesus figurines around Junior Motorsports.

4. Heartfelt Faith & Resilience After Loss

[21:45 - 28:27]

• Chris Rice and Nate open up about sustaining family faith after the loss of loved ones (including Coy Gibbs).
• Chris Rice: “I would say the greatest thing that I hope is for them to see that I don’t have the strength by myself...it is an absolute foundation in faith and trusting God through it.” [21:54]
• Emphasis on perseverance, honest emotion, and relying on faith to get through adversity.
• Reflections on how children process grief and how families can move forward by “celebrating and remembering.”

5. Grassroots Racing & Reality TV

[16:02 - 19:08]

• Matt Colletti relates the chaotic beginnings of a racing reality TV show for Ram (Dodge's truck brand).
• Challenge: organizing races, handling logistics, and accidentally becoming a commentator.
• Results: over 30 million views, validating the "crazy" approach.
• Key takeaway: It was about more than competition—it was about teaching life lessons.

6. Life Off the Track: Road Construction & Parking Woes

[31:43 - 36:59]

• Amy recounts a comically relatable story about dealing with torn-up roads and fierce competition for public parking near their home.
• Her “Karen” moment: reserving parking with cones, confronting a honking driver.
• Amy: “You probably shouldn’t be honking then. Like, what are you doing?” [35:23]
• Delivers a slice-of-life moment highlighting the everyday challenges faced even by racing celebrities.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Dodge’s struggles:
  • Matt Colletti [20:21]: “The only reason Dodge left...is they didn’t have an engine...In Cup, you have to have your own engine. So engine is the biggest problem right now.”
• On SVG’s performance:
  • Elliott Sadler [08:06]: “There’s a few [corners] where it’s like: wow, I never thought to approach that corner that way.”
  • Sadler [11:53]: “If you can avoid [bad weeks] over the next eight weeks, I think he can hold that over a Cedric, Jones, Keselowski...”
• On faith after tragedy:
  • Chris Rice [21:54]: “It is an absolute foundation in faith and trusting God through it...Our home isn't here. We're not meant to be here forever. Our home is in heaven.”
• On everyday problems:
  • Amy [35:23]: “You probably shouldn’t be honking then. Like, what are you doing?”

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------------|---------------| | Road trip stories & miniature Jesuses | 01:31–06:29 | | SVG’s road course prowess & championship math | 07:08–13:40 | | Dodge-to-Cup inside scoop (Colletti) | 19:08–21:45 | | Faith, loss, and resilience (Chris Rice) | 21:45–28:27 | | Racing reality TV show origins | 16:02–19:08 | | Amy’s parking war & beach-life moments | 31:43–36:59 |

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Overall Tone & Style

• Candid and wide-ranging; conversational, heartfelt, often irreverent, blending deep technical insight with plenty of personal storytelling.
• True to Dale Jr.'s and his team’s style—mixing hard NASCAR knowledge with humor and real-life relatability.

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This episode delivers a thorough, up-to-date look at NASCAR’s manufacturer landscape and the human side of the sport, tying in technical reality, personal faith, and the quirks of everyday living.

Transcript

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[Dylan Hart Jr.]

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[Steven B.]

Usually when the race is over, we all, everybody goes home. You know, San Diego, a lot of people stayed out there for the, you know, couple at least a day or two and then drove or flew to Sonoma. And so that's our plan. So it's kind of cool going to the hotel and hanging out and seeing, seeing folks, your peers. And man, we had a lot of fun. We drank a little bit, got up in the morning and drove to Santa Barbara and then we went from Santa Barbara up to Monterey. We spent the night in Santa Barbara. Then the next night we spent the night in Monterey. Monterey's badass little town.

[Adam Alexander]

Sounds like it.

[Steven B.]

It was Santa Barbara's great. We get to Santa Barbara and Monterey, both towns. We get on our phone, found the closest bar and like a block and a half from the hotel and we went to the me and Stefan and Latart, his family, Adam Alexander, we went, we went and had drinks and stuff and just hung out. And

[Dylan Hart Jr.]

that was pretty cool to be

[Steven B.]

able to kind of sit in these little dive bars you'd never have a beer in. And Drink in one of the bars in Monterey. We were sitting there, and I noticed that

[Elliott Sadler]

in.

[Steven B.]

They had this thing on the back wall, and it had all these little buildings on it. And in the doorways of all the little buildings were these little miniature Jesuses.

[Chris Rice]

And.

[Steven B.]

You ever seen things? Oh, yeah. And so, you know, after about, I don't know, six or eight beers, I was like, man, you've got those little miniature Jesuses all up in the buildings there. And he's like, oh, man, there's. There's a lot of them in here. I was like, yeah. He's like, how many do you see? I was like, well, I'll probably see about four up there. He's like, there's a whole lot more in this room. He's like, you gotta take a look around. And so all around the room, they had all these tiny little Jesuses hiding everywhere. And I thought, that's hilarious. And, you know, six or eight beers, I'm like, you know, I'm going Amazon. I'm gonna order me some tiny Jesus. So I brought them.

[Jerome Davis]

I just wondered what you brought in.

[Dylan Hart Jr.]

There's a box full of them.

[Adam Alexander]

Nice.

[Steven B.]

Look at that, man.

[Jerome Davis]

Are you just gonna put them throughout Junior Motorsports?

[Steven B.]

I'm just gonna hide them places. There's already one in here.

[Adam Alexander]

Here, dude, I've already got them.

[Dylan Hart Jr.]

Oh, you don't want one?

[Adam Alexander]

Well, I've already got.

[Jerome Davis]

How could you say no to Jesus?

[Adam Alexander]

I've got a lot of them.

[Dylan Hart Jr.]

How could you say no to this little guy?

[Adam Alexander]

Oh, my God. I've got a lot of them on.

[Dale Earnhardt Jr.]

I have one.

[Steven B.]

Yeah.

[Amy]

All right.

[Adam Alexander]

My mom gave me one of them.

[Steven B.]

I'll give you a handful.

[Adam Alexander]

My mom gave me one of them. She's like, here, you need.

[Dale Earnhardt Jr.]

Hey, I got an idea. We could.

[Jerome Davis]

We could hide them in Mike's office.

[Adam Alexander]

You need to put a whole bunch of them in there.

[Steven B.]

So you keep them.

[Dylan Hart Jr.]

You walk around and you just put

[Steven B.]

them places when people aren't looking. So Steven's sitting next to me, and he ordered a box, too, and he just tried to bring them in here and give them to me. I'm like, no, that's your box, man.

[Jerome Davis]

I thought you had trading cards he was bringing in.

[Adam Alexander]

That's what he had. That's what he.

[Jerome Davis]

That's hilarious.

[Steven B.]

I'm like, that's your box of miniature Jesuses.

[Adam Alexander]

I lined up my spare bedroom in my house with those things.

[Steven B.]

Did you?

[Adam Alexander]

My mom gave me one, so I'm like, okay.

[Steven B.]

They've been around a while, huh?

[Adam Alexander]

So, yeah, so I bought A box, like you did. And I put them in her room whenever she comes, and they're all. There's like a hundred of them in there.

[Steven B.]

Things are awesome.

[Adam Alexander]

They are. You put them all over the place.

[Dylan Hart Jr.]

Race cars.

[Steven B.]

Yeah, for the race. For the.

[Adam Alexander]

For the race on Saturday. We drive, walk up and give one each driver.

[Steven B.]

Yeah. Yeah. I have one in my backpack that somehow I got it. Somebody gave it to me.

[Adam Alexander]

Yeah,

[Steven B.]

well, I thought that was funny.

[Dylan Hart Jr.]

We drove up.

[Steven B.]

There's a name for this road. What is it? Yeah, there it is. Why do they call it that?

[Adam Alexander]

Pacific Coast Highway.

[Amy]

Okay.

[Steven B.]

There you go. All right. See, I'm not familiar.

[Dylan Hart Jr.]

The pch. So we drove up that thing.

[Steven B.]

Man, it was a. It's badass. If you go on Google or go on your phone and take a look at that road or the pictures of it, you'll. The pictures that you see, that's what it looks like. It's badass. The whole way up, just on the. On the edge of a mountain. Probably hundreds, maybe thousands of feet.

[Adam Alexander]

Yeah.

[Steven B.]

Or hundreds of feet up from the coast. But you can see. I mean, just the ocean. See it as far as you can see. And so that was a blast. We stopped and ate it. Some little restaurant on the side of the road.

[Dylan Hart Jr.]

Man, it was just fun.

[Steven B.]

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[Jordan Bianchi]

Is there anything new to say about SVG winning this race?

[Dale Earnhardt Jr.]

He looked human or like less than soup.

[Jerome Davis]

He wasn't like Superman out there, I would say.

[Matt Colletti]

Yeah.

[Elliott Sadler]

I mean, I don't know. I started within a row of him, which was fantastic, because I could kind of watch a little bit, and it still looked rather impressive to me, you know, Was it the big gap over the field that we've seen at other tracks? No, but I think what the field is starting to figure out is his approaches to speed in certain corners. I think that that's where he'll struggle to maintain. The big advantage that he has over the field is that when I watch him approach, you know, 11 corners at Sonoma, there's a few where it's like, wow, I never thought to approach that corner that way. And, and so I think the field sees that and eventually they close it. You know, does his. Is his really acute awareness of what he needs out of his car, his techniques and all that stuff, Is that able to be replicated? That's likely a tougher discussion. But I do think the field can close and. And if on a given day, like it seems like the, you know, the Gibbs Gibbs cars definitely were the next best cars or next best in speed to him, sure, you could, you could beat him. But it, you know, you're. You still got to put in the back of your mind that, you know, the trackhouse cars still have not been great this year. So he's probably not driving the fastest car, but he's driving it the fastest. You know, he's got the car, he's got the fastest. So, you know, so it. Maybe he gets that advantage back when his cars get a little bit faster. So he makes.

[Dale Earnhardt Jr.]

You have to be perfect, though.

[Elliott Sadler]

Yes, yes. Because he's just not going to make that many mistakes. You know, the, the work. You know, this is crazy. Say, like, the worst driving I've ever seen him do was actually when he was racing Connor at Watkins Glen last year. Or not Watkins Glen, Sonoma, when they were racing head to head. Like, you would see SVG miss corners and you'd see him lock up tires and it was like, whoa, okay, he. He doesn't run just every lap perfectly now, but that was the first time that we saw him really have to.

[Jordan Bianchi]

You need someone behind him to keep him honest.

[Elliott Sadler]

Yeah, you got to keep him honest. Right? So. But that's just as long as he's got this little gap on the field that he's got, he can. He can run it at 95% and still, you know, keep. Keep his pace and distance.

[Jordan Bianchi]

So we made some predictions two weeks ago as to how many points above the cut line he would be out of these two road course.

[Elliott Sadler]

I think I said 60.

[Dale Earnhardt Jr.]

He ain't 64.

[Elliott Sadler]

I know he's not 64, Travis.

[Dale Earnhardt Jr.]

No, I'm just.

[Jerome Davis]

No, I'm just saying that, like Diego

[Elliott Sadler]

had he, by the way, take where he was running versus where his position was at San Diego and he's like 70 up, but he's not right. Yeah, this is.

[Lenny B.]

That.

[Elliott Sadler]

That's racing wrong place, wrong Time and, you know, so how do, how do

[Jordan Bianchi]

we feel about his, his chance for the chase? That's what I'm getting at.

[Elliott Sadler]

It's got to be Jones. Kozlowski, Joey's 20th. I mean, holy cow. I mean, A.J. with Kaulig having no support or anything, is ahead of Joey at Penske. It's just wild to put, wrap your head around, but they just, you could just see that there, there's just not much speed there. Um, and, and if you mix in a few bad finishes, you know, you get these wrecks and things that happen, and especially where he's running, you're more prone to get in those things. I think, man, can he avoid the 30th place finishes. You know, he just has some weeks where it's like SVG is out to lunch and he's, he's spinning and spinning and crashing multiple times per race. It's like, if you can avoid that over the next eight weeks, I think he can out. I think he can hold that over a Cedric Jones, Keselowski because it's not like those guys were having 50 point days. Right. I mean, what would you say? Can you tell me, can you tell me the last. Has priest had a 50? Has any of those guys had a 50 point day?

[Dale Earnhardt Jr.]

I don't think without researching, I'm gonna say no.

[Lenny B.]

Right.

[Elliott Sadler]

I'm gonna like. Me neither. Let's save ourselves the time. I just don't think they have. So he can bleed a little bit.

[Jerome Davis]

Would you be worried about like, Erik

[Dale Earnhardt Jr.]

Jones,

[Jerome Davis]

who's of late has been racing really well.

[Matt Colletti]

Yeah.

[Elliott Sadler]

But I still think there's some chinks in that armor. I think that. Do they have the short track speed? Like, we're going to a few short tracks too. Right. So their bigger track program has clearly gotten better, but what about the other tracks? And in this little stretch of eight races, is there like one mile and a half?

[Jerome Davis]

We've got Chicago, Atlanta, North Wilkesboro, North

[Dale Earnhardt Jr.]

Iowa, Richmond, New Hampshire, Daytona.

[Elliott Sadler]

So where. Where Legacy has seemed to taken the jump, there's Chicago, Indy. Right. I think svg, he, he's gonna have to be tidy, tidy with his weekends.

[Jordan Bianchi]

I mean, I think this just comes down to can he average a 16th, 17th, 18th place finish from here on out?

[Matt Colletti]

Mm.

[Jordan Bianchi]

And that seems like a challenge. That, that seems like an uphill battle because again, like you said, one of

[Elliott Sadler]

those depends on how you approach it. Yeah, it depends on how you approach it.

[Dylan Hart Jr.]

Right.

[Elliott Sadler]

Do you want to be the, the guy that's going all out on kill on restarts trying to get every spot or you are you willing to take the risk to do that to get a better finish or and then maybe put yourself in a bad spot? I. I don't know. I I truthfully don't know. And I think it's going to be very close and this whole thing is going to be very interesting to watch.

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[Matt Colletti]

I love to tell this story. So I get this text from the Nate, the guy at Ram, and he says, can you meet this guy? Can you and Ty meet this guy Wednesday?

[Steven B.]

Yeah, sure.

[Matt Colletti]

He sends a picture of him. I have no idea who he is. Don't. Couldn't tell you anything. I'm a racer. I grew up in South Boston in a trailer house. I don't know. I don't know any of these people.

[Lenny B.]

This guy, he lived on the same side as Ward. I don't know if you're gonna see his twang, but him and Ward, we'll

[Matt Colletti]

get it out in a minute.

[Amy]

The more we get going.

[Lenny B.]

Yeah.

[Amy]

We're only in the first part of the show.

[Matt Colletti]

This guy shows up, and his name is Craig Paligian. He started Lionsgate. Do you know what Lionsgate is? Where they. Where they go on the screen?

[Lenny B.]

Yeah.

[Matt Colletti]

Still had no idea. They walk in and they have just like, what you have here? And they gave us this. They said, hey, we need 15 race trucks. We're going to take them to Las Vegas and we're going to do a reality TV show. I looked at him and I go, no, you're not. We don't have one. And another thing. You can't test them. And he's like, what? And he literally sit there, and this is a month and a half before the show started and balled it up and threw it to the side. And he says, what are we going to do month and a half before the show thing? And I cold sweat again. I'm like, oh, Ty and I were sitting there. I said, first thing is, let me text my mom said, I need five racetracks. Can you help me with this? And that day, we sit in there for two and a half hours, and we looked at how we would get the drivers to where we needed to get them. Okay. And then we started working on it. We'll go to South Boston. We'll go to Ace. We'll do this, we'll do that. I love dirt racing. So we did it almost like the dirt weekend, just like they do at heat races. And then you gave them brackets and you let them race inside the brackets. And we came up with the point system was the best thing ever, because then, you know, it's not cheating. The guy that wins the points wins it. And what we taught them and what we learned is that it's teaching them life. I had no idea they were going to take their cell phone from them. I didn't know that part of It. I didn't know the TV side of it. I just knew that we needed to figure out that it didn't look cheesy and shady and all of that stuff. I didn't know that I was going to be a commentator. That happened the first episode. Like, we were at a speedway and we're standing up and they said, just comment about the guys. Craig Palagian sitting behind us, he goes, why don't y' all be commentators? And I'm like, uh, oh, I've always wanted to do this, but not on a reality TV show where we're judging the kids or young men. And we came up with it. Ty, myself, Matt Colleg was involved every single time. 15 days, 20 hours a day straight. Right after the season was over. When we got done, I actually caught the norovirus. I was sick for three days. I was down and out. I had to have five IVs. I was about. It was bad, so. But it was a lot of fun. It come from marketing. It worked. I think they told us two weeks ago they have had over 30 million eyes look at it. You know, views and stuff. So it's actually worked. Mini Tyrell won. It did a really good job. It was very dramatic. At the end, we gave $50,000 to the winner of the money race, which was for Carson Ferguson.

[Amy]

Yeah.

[Matt Colletti]

And we've actually raced him. We're going to end up racing him three times. So he actually got more than that. Jordan Bianchi, the athletic reports that Dodge could move to the Cup Series as soon soon as 20, 27. Who should we ask?

[Chris Rice]

What's the tea, Chris?

[Nate]

What's the T?

[Chris Rice]

What's the tea?

[Matt Colletti]

Well, I'll tell you this. We would love to. We would love for Dodge to do it, but they have not committed to do it yet. But it's a lot of fun. I appreciate everybody pushing Dodge to do it. I appreciate everybody talking about it. We would love to have them here. Yeah, absol. Are we working hard towards it? Absolutely. But you didn't think we were going to sit still as colic racing doing nothing.

[Lenny B.]

Look, let's just.

[Matt Colletti]

Are they coming? Let's just not as of today.

[Lenny B.]

Let's just throw it out there. What is the biggest hurdle? Everybody?

[Matt Colletti]

Engines.

[Lenny B.]

Right. Everybody needs to understand this. Not many people listening so we can talk about this. So what is not many people.

[Matt Colletti]

You got a lot of. I looked at it yesterday when they asked me to be on, like, holy cow, you guys got a lot of listeners.

[Lenny B.]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some people claim that they are the number One podcast in nascar. But, you know, we can. We can argue with that.

[Matt Colletti]

Are you talking about Denny again?

[Lenny B.]

No, no, no, no. Denny's. He's way behind.

[Amy]

Freddie's not on here, so we're not talking about Denny.

[Dylan Hart Jr.]

Why?

[Lenny B.]

Because people don't understand why you can just. What is the hold up?

[Matt Colletti]

Yep. So engines are the holdup in nascar. You're supposed to have, you know, your engine in a car. Well, when Dodge. The only reason Dodge left. Guys, don't many people know this is they didn't have an engine. If you think. If you remember back Penske went to Ford, Penske was building engines. They had no engine and nowhere to go. They were done. And then, you know, through. Through the businesses, you know, I want. I want to say this. Tim Kaniskis is. Is the man. Like, he's a guy that makes it happen. He is the one. Tim Kaniskis is awesome for bringing Ram back to nascar. You can do Ram because they're Elmore engines. They're spec engines. You can do those in nascar. In cup, you have to have your own engine. So engine is the biggest problem right now. Are we working through it? I actually had a call on here, and you probably better see it on tv. That was about engines. When we were getting ready to go, that's what the vibration was like, because I got to meet with them this afternoon. So, like, engines are the problem. Are they coming back to nascar? I can tell you on this show right now, Colleague Racing, Matt Colleague, Chris Rice, everybody, Colleague Racing would love to have them back. Yes, immediately. Fast as we can go. Get them in the sport. It would be great for the sport. It would be great for Chevrolet. It would be great for Ford. It'd be great for Toyota. More people in here trying to sell cars would be great, but the engine is an issue. So, you know, it's been people reaching out. I can do an engine, man. It ain't that easy. Yeah, it's not that easy.

[Nate]

And how you've handled your world since then, what do you hope they're taken from all of this and that you're giving them?

[Chris Rice]

I would say the greatest thing that I hope is for them to see that I don't have the strength by myself. That it is an absolute foundation in faith and trusting God through it. I got to spend time with Samantha a day or so after losing Kyle, and I told her. She's like, is it going to get. You know, what's it going to be like? And I'm like, it absolutely sucks. It's awful. And My heart broke so much. But I said, your kids are going to watch you and you're going to find strength. You're not going to have it on your own. You have to have a relationship with the Lord. Have to trust in him, because he's going to sustain you no matter how upset you are with him right now. And it's okay because we were made to have emotions. But he's going to walk with you through the darkest moments, which we're in right now, and through the highest moments and back to the dark moments. And if you don't have that foundation, you're going to be lost, you're going to be bitter, you're going to be empty, and no one on earth can fulfill that. And I think for my kids, also understanding that our home isn't here. You know, we're not meant to be here forever. Our home is in heaven. And knowing, you know, it means so much more to me now. I grew up a Christian family, and knowing, you know, growing up understanding Grandma and Grandpa are in heaven. But when you have someone, your beloved that is there, I wanted to understand every part. What is he seeing? What is he under, you know, what's going on? And it counts so much more. And I think my kids have seen, you know, like, this is a moment that we're here. Work hard, be relentless in everything you do. Show compassion to everyone. But this isn't forever. So it counts what you're doing here now. And I think that's what I want them to see. I want them to see that it's funny. People are like, it's okay. Cry in front of your kids. And I'm like, no, nobody wants your mom to cry in front of them. They want to see strength. And I remember those first few days of waking up and putting makeup on, and finally my daughter's like, are you all right? You know, because she's. You know, weekends, I have no makeup, my hair is a mess. And so. But I wanted, you know, just to be able to show up and show them we are going to get through it. And right now it's going to be hour by hour, and then it's going to be day by day, and then it's going to be week by week. But. And remembering Coy, we tell funny stories all the time. We want to be happy, we don't want to be sad. And we want to celebrate him and remember him. So it's in everything. I mean, he is kind of a once in a lifetime. And so I think our kids so many times Will be like, okay, what would dad do? And Ty's like, dad's going to kill you. What are you thinking? So I love seeing that in all

[Nate]

of keeping that at the front and center. Yeah, the faith is big. I, you know, same thing growing up, went to church.

[Jerome and Tiffany Davis]

Didn't really.

[Nate]

My grandparents and all that were. Some were already passed and this, that and the other. So I didn't have, like, that modeled, you know, I just. Our parents sent us to church. It was the thing to do. We were in church every Sunday, even when they were on the road and all that, and kind of got. Didn't get away from my belief in God and everything, but kind of got away from the practice of every day. Right? You go to college, you do this and that. And honestly, my mother's death in 2019, it was just like. I mean, it just came as an aurora, like, you have to give this up and to have that peace about it. Because you're right, you will be bitter, you will be angry, you will have the regrets. You will, you know, ask question why and all those things. And that was the. That was the time for me, whenever that really resonated, to just hand it over and, you know, have that faith that, you know, I said earlier, God, God's wrote the story. Yes, we're living it. And that that belief helps you through worry. It helps you through the unknowns and all of those things, you know, that we just, you know, we can't. And it's hard. It's hard for driven. It is to, you know, relinquish kind of that control.

[Chris Rice]

It is so hard. So many times I'm like, God doesn't want my perspective or opinion. I'm like, if we did it this way, I feel like it would be, you know.

[Nate]

And we joked last night, we were talking about some decisions we were working on for Wyatt, and my husband goes. He goes, I'm just. I've got to let go of this. I've got to turn it over to God. And he turned and he just made a little quip and he goes, God, can you just please give me an answer by tonight?

[Chris Rice]

That's exactly right. Sometimes the timing doesn't work.

[Nate]

I'm like, I don't think that's how it works.

[Chris Rice]

It's so true, though, you know, I mean, I think with all the kids, with all my, you know, my boys. He's case has just finished his freshman year, went into the transfer portal. We've been praying about the right place. He just committed to College of Charleston, which I'M so excited to be close by. But it's. It's a huge leap of faith and a huge, you know, like, there isn't coy to be there to walk us through. And even though they lost, you know, their earthly father, they have a heavenly father that cares about them more than even I care about them. And it's hard to wrap your head around that.

[Nate]

Absolutely.

[Chris Rice]

But I think our family kind of verse was that even El used. It was, you know, going back to the story of Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego and, and what they went through and that we know no matter what. But if not, you know, it was the verse that God is with us, whether he answers it the way that we want to, whether the story comes out the way we want. And we know with losing Coy, it absolutely wasn't the story we wanted. It wasn't what we want. But we knew that God was with us and is and continues to carry through, you know, some days. Some days are tough, you know, and. And my kids are like, sometimes we don't act like Christians. And I'm like, it's okay. We're not perfect. But we know that that's our foundation. And that's the most important part.

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[Amy]

But I wanted to talk about the road construction because the last week I was here, I came down with the girls a couple weekends ago, I think over Father's Day weekend. You were in San Diego.

[Steven B.]

They're putting in a bunch of drainage.

[Amy]

They're putting in drainage pipes. So they've had the road torn up for a while. When it rains here, there's flooding all in the road.

[Steven B.]

Yeah. Drain. Drain. Yeah.

[Amy]

You're thumbs upping. I didn't know what was happening.

[Dylan Hart Jr.]

I'm glad they're doing it.

[Amy]

You're flailing.

[Jerome Davis]

I was confused on what the thumbs up was about, too. I was like, what is he doing?

[Amy]

I thought y' all had, like a secret thing happening. And I was like, I don't know

[Dylan Hart Jr.]

what Amy's about to say, but I'm

[Steven B.]

just saying I'm happy they're doing it.

[Amy]

I am happy. I don't know what to do with my hand. I am happy they're doing it, too. It just takes long. It takes a long time. And the timing of it isn't that great because it's 4th of July and it's going to be busy and the road's still turn up. But more than that, the weekend we were here, so I've talked about before that you can't pull into the driveway. So all the parking in front of the house is all we have. And it's public parking right there. So, like, the blocks are kind of funny around here. Some. Some roads have parking and some don't. So I was just having to bank on getting a spot in front of the house or schlepping the kids down the street or finding a spot somewhere, which is fine, except that it's, you know, it's a lot more stress with little kids doing that.

[Steven B.]

So can I say, if you. If you're in one of the public spots and you move to do anything, somebody is ready to take it.

[Amy]

It's like somebody came out of the woods just waiting for you to pull

[Steven B.]

out the public spot.

[Jerome Davis]

It won't last 10 seconds.

[Amy]

And we're right here next to the beach inlet, too, so, you know, there's a lot of people wanting to park here just for that reason.

[Steven B.]

So since we can't use our own driveway because the road's torn out and they won't let us, it's literally like a foot drop off down into the Belly of the. Of the road, so we couldn't get in and out of there.

[Amy]

It's impossible.

[Steven B.]

She had to use some of the public parking.

[Amy]

I did. So that's fine. It's right in front of the house. But if you pull out and go eat or anything like that, it's gonna be a challenge to get it back. So I bought myself some cones. I ordered cones off of Amazon like a total Karen and was coning off in front of the house, willing to get a ticket, because I'm sure that's not allowed, right? Like, you're not supposed to put cones out in the public parking. And it worked pretty seamlessly, to be honest. I've had, like, cones for me. I had cones for my girlfriend. So it coned off honestly across the whole front, and it worked really well. Except the last time we were pulling out to go to dinner. Lisa's on the other side of the car trying to get the kids in the car seats. And I have pulled out a little bit so that she could put the cones back out, right? So I'm not actually in the spot anymore. I'm kind of hanging off in the road, but the barricades are in the road, too, so I'm not really, really messing up traffic. And anyway, so there's a guy coming through the stop sign, and he can't see that Lisa's on the other side of the car. He just sees that the Suburban's kind of pulled out in the road, and he decides to start honking at me. That horn thing, you know, that we talked about how rude that is, just honking for no reason. And we're at the beach, people. We're not going anywhere fast. So he honks, and instead of doing anything out the window to let him know we were like, hang on, we're coming out. I just get out of the car, and I walk straight up to his window.

[Steven B.]

Damn.

[Amy]

I walked straight up to his window.

[Steven B.]

I heard this story.

[Amy]

No, I haven't told Dale about it. I wasn't mad, but I was at the point of the day where we're putting the kids in the car for dinner. It's hot. There's four children trying to get into car seats. It's been a long day. I'm stressed out. I'm in that weird, fuzzy space between I'm having a good time and anything could set me off. So I just get out of the car and walk straight up to his window, and I just stand there until he rolls his window down. He's in there with his Wife. And he's like. I was like, listen, we have little kids are trying to get into the car. We're going to take a minute. Okay? You can see that I can't get into my driveway. This is my house. You're going to need to just chill out. And he goes, you scared the shit out of me. I was like, you probably shouldn't be honking then. Like, what are you doing? And so he rolls his window back up and I get back in my car and I take my ever loving time getting out of there because he was waiting to park in that spot anyway. I'm like, off, man. Now take me and my cones.

[Jerome Davis]

Like, the whole thing was, don't mess with Amy.

[Amy]

I know. Well, I had had enough.

[Steven B.]

End of the show, man. None of our topics are gonna top that.

[Jerome Davis]

I used the horn when I was in San Diego, but normally I have my IKEA and my horn when I use my Kia. It's like, you're not allowed to honk

[Amy]

at anyone if you're in Ikea, by the way.

[Jerome Davis]

It's like my horn's like a. Excuse me, but the Tahoe that I was driving out in San Diego was a rental. And I hit that and that thing was like, move, motherfucker. That horn was loud, and I just. Because it was just. It was supposed to be a gentle, but it was not a gentleman. I felt bad. I did the. Sorry.

[Steven B.]

I have a. I have a truck that has a train horn in the bed. It's obnoxious and it is freaking 100 decibels. And when you lay on that thing, you have to put to prime it. There's an air pump underneath the hood, so you flip on a switch to prime the pump and get the compressed air in the tank.

[Amy]

Why would you put something like that on your truck?

[Steven B.]

To be the biggest you can be.

[Amy]

And that's what your goal was.

[Steven B.]

I mean, if somebody deserves it, they're gonna get it, so.

[Amy]

Well, that took the Honda. Yeah. I've never heard you. I've never heard it. You've had the truck at the house to show. I love the truck. Cause it's huge. It's like a big monster truck. And she used to watch Blaze, and she looks just like Blaze, the monster truck. Blazing the monster machines. Yeah. So she's not at that point. She was the same height as the tire.

[Steven B.]

Yeah, it was.

[Amy]

It's huge.

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