What’s Going on With Ross Chastain and Daniel Suarez?

Summary

The Dale Jr. Download – Episode 698

Title: What’s Going On With Ross Chastain and Daniel Suarez?
Air Date: March 17, 2026
Host: Dale Earnhardt Jr.
Co-Hosts: TJ Majors, Russell
Podcast Network: Dirty Mo Media, SiriusXM

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EPISODE OVERVIEW

In episode 698 of The Dale Jr. Download, Dale Earnhardt Jr. and co-hosts TJ Majors and Russell deliver candid and insightful commentary on the latest NASCAR headlines. This week, the show’s main focus is the escalating tension between Ross Chastain and Daniel Suarez, two drivers with intertwined histories and recent on-track friction. The crew also covers the state of the Cup Series after Las Vegas, Denny Hamlin’s 61st win and championship chances, the performance of major teams (Hendrick, Gibbs, Penske, RFK), an Ask Jr. mailbag, paint scheme nostalgia, and betting previews for Darlington. True to form, Dale and his crew keep it real, blending deep racing knowledge with laid-back banter and memorable stories.

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MAIN THEMES AND DISCUSSION POINTS

1. The Ross Chastain and Daniel Suarez Situation

[06:18–18:57]

• On-Track Incident: At Las Vegas, Chastain and Suarez raced each other aggressively, leading to some questionable moves, air-blocking, and a dramatic post-race pit road confrontation.
• The Footage: Dale and TJ rewatch the incident, noting hard racing but no obvious foul play. They point out Chastain's swerve at Suarez post-race and both drivers exchanging words on pit road.
• Suarez’s Perspective: Dale shares Suarez’s vlog statement, including that he approached Ross to apologize but took offense to "chicken stuff" Ross said after the race.
  • Quote [14:12]: Suarez: “I have known Ross for a long time, and I’ve always known that he and I were very different kinds of people. But that’s okay. I have a lot of respect for him, but the kind of words that he said after the race, it’s just completely unacceptable… That’s chicken stuff.”
• Underlying Tensions: The team attributes the friction to “bad blood” from prior years as teammates and Suarez’s departure from Trackhouse.
• Chastain’s Silence: Ross refused to comment, a shift since his high-profile dust-ups (notably with Denny Hamlin after Darlington).
• Analysis of Personalities: The crew notes that both drivers have chips on their shoulders—Suarez trying to prove himself after being let go, Chastain with an aggressive reputation.
• Will It Continue?: Both drivers aren’t afraid of confrontation and likely will butt heads again. Dale notes: “I don’t think it’s over... That’s far from it.” [12:29]
• Is It Overblown?: TJ downplays the incident itself but admits underlying tension will persist.

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2. Las Vegas Recap & State of the Teams

[21:13–40:51]

• Denny Hamlin’s 61st Win: The hosts break down Hamlin’s milestone win, discuss tire fall-off, race conditions, and Hamlin's ability to “overcome a speeding penalty, which he seems to do every other race.” [04:46]
• Hamlin as a Champion: Dale boldly declares Hamlin his pick for the year’s championship:
  • Quote [25:34]: “I’ve seen enough. Denny Hamlin is my pick for the championship this year.”
• Hamlin’s Aging Like Fine Wine: The group admires Denny’s consistent performance as a veteran, discussing parallels with legends who maintained speed in their 40s and 50s.
• Hendrick and Chevy’s Form: Discussion of the new nose on Hendrick Chevys, solid performances by Chase Elliott, Byron, and Larson, and adaptation to subtle aerodynamic changes.
• Bowman & Vertigo: Dale shares inside stories of Alex Bowman’s health challenges and the impact on the 48 team.
• Ford’s Struggle: Penske and RFK’s lackluster showing at Vegas provokes questions about Ford’s competitive standing. RFK is seeing incremental improvement, and hopes are pinned on the summer swing.
• Team Power Rankings: Lively debate over whether Penske still belongs in NASCAR’s “Big Three,” with indications the hierarchy is shifting to Gibbs and Hendrick (1A/1B), Penske next, and 23XI/RFK closing the gap.

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3. The Playoff Picture & Points Talk

[40:52–47:55]

• New Points System: The importance of stage points is emphasized; top drivers stack them weekly.
  • Dale: “Stage points… are telling us they're very critical this year.”
  • Bubba Wallace highlighted for accumulating the most stage points and staying near the top of the standings.
• Cutoff Lines and ‘Who’s Out’: Dale draws a hard line at 8th place as the lowest realistic championship contender:
  • Quote [43:15]: “My cutoff line is eighth place, William Byron.”
  • Arguments follow about which drivers (e.g., Ty Gibbs, Chris Buescher, Kyle Busch) could break into title contention by getting hot over the summer.
• Consistency vs. Wildcards: The updated format puts a premium on regular, strong performances—wildcards can’t sneak in with just a win.

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4. Ask Jr. Mailbag

[51:11–66:35]

• Truck Series Drama: Deep dive into the Sheldon Creed–Taylor Gray incident, debating the etiquette of blocking and retaliation:
  • Dale: “I don’t think either one of these guys are looking too good right now… You can block a lane, but you can't block the whole race track.” [54:21]
• Paint Scheme Nostalgia: Dale geeks out on Carson Hocevar’s Darlington car, which pays tribute to Dale Sr.’s underrated 1981 scheme.
• Throwback Weekend: Clarifies that NASCAR hasn’t abandoned throwback paint schemes; teams now have more flexibility to honor the past without restriction.
• Breakfast Debate: Patties vs. links (team patty, unless there's no biscuit).
• Driver Wave Etiquette: Tangent into the lost art of waving at fellow drivers—should it make a comeback? Fun cultural commentary from the entire crew.

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5. Dirty Mo Do / FanDuel Bets & Darlington Preview

[77:03–89:59]

• Darlington Expectations: The group anticipates dramatic tire fall-off (3–4 seconds), which will reward tire management and produce more green-flag chaos.
  • Dale: “If we have green flag pit stops, you’re going to see some guys run over some guys. You know, you’re going to see… that’s a one-lane racetrack.”
• Driver Picks and Odds:
  • Favorites: Denny Hamlin (+500), Kyle Larson (+600), Byron, Reddick, and Bell.
  • Roll-the-Dice Picks: Bubba Wallace (strong run history), Erik Jones (two-time Darlington winner, +4500), Ryan Preece.
  • Skeptics: Briscoe and Kyle Busch – talent for Darlington, but recent form casts doubt.
• Spotter’s Strategy: TJ explains how spotters and teams manage pace, pit timing, and tire allocation through high fall-off races.
• Basketball Bracket Talk: Brief aside on NCAA tournament bets—Dale prefers “just one bracket” for true fandom.

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QUOTES & MEMORABLE MOMENTS

• On Chastain/Suarez animosity:
  • Suarez: “The kind of words he said after the race, it’s just completely unacceptable. That’s chicken stuff.” [14:12]
  • Dale: “There seems to be some bad blood between the two drivers that exists from the past or is it the company?” [09:20]
  • TJ: “I don’t think it’s over. That’s far from it.” [12:29]
• On Championship Cutoff:
  • Dale: “My cutoff line is eighth place, William Byron.” [43:15]
  • Russell: “NASCAR mocked it… If you’re outside the top six… you wouldn't have won.”
• On Denny Hamlin’s career:
  • Dale: "He still has that passion… I think he’s an extremely, extremely talented driver just by the seat of the pants, the feel of the car… He’s a unicorn." [27:56]
• On Throwbacks:
  • Dale: “No one ever, ever, ever, ever said, we’re no longer doing throwbacks… Now if teams want to do them, they can do them.” [61:24]
• On tire fall-off at Darlington and excitement:
  • Dale: “I was excited about tire fall off, excited about horsepower, excited about less downforce, anxious about tire allotment. This sounds like a great recipe for awesome race.” [87:02]

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TIMESTAMPED KEY SEGMENTS

• 06:18–18:57 – Main discussion of Chastain/Suarez incident and lingering bad blood
• 21:13–29:53 – Denny Hamlin’s win & championship analysis
• 32:45–41:58 – Ford/Penske/RFK updates and shifting power rankings
• 40:52–47:55 – Points standings breakdown, playoff cutoff lines
• 51:11–61:16 – Ask Jr.: Creed vs. Gray block, paint schemes, throwback culture
• 77:03–89:59 – FanDuel segment: Darlington tire wear preview, favorites, and dark horses

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SUMMARY

This episode of The Dale Jr. Download is a must-listen for NASCAR fans who want behind-the-scenes context on one of the sport’s emerging rivalries. Through playful banter and expert analysis, the show breaks down the layers behind the Chastain-Suarez drama, Denny Hamlin’s sustained excellence, and the weekly shuffle of team rankings as the season heats up. Dale Jr. and his crew aren’t afraid to call it like they see it, blending nostalgia, stats, and locker-room humor, all while keeping the tone authentic and accessible.

If you missed the episode, you now know exactly “what’s going on with Ross Chastain and Daniel Suarez”—and a whole lot more about where NASCAR stands as it heads into another classic race at Darlington.

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Transcript

[Dale Jr.]

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[Dale Jr.]

The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. This is the most fun I've had in this chair in the last hour and a half. Yes.

[TJ Majors]

I don't know if we've ever argued. Did I piss you off over the

[Dale Jr.]

weekend or I'm still sour that I wasn't the best man at your wedding.

[Russell]

Who was your best man, Dale?

[Dale Jr.]

Tj.

[TJ Majors]

Tj.

[Dale Jr.]

You don't need a cool vest for that race. What are you thinking? Get him. DJ Hellway is starting to show.

[TJ Majors]

All right, then.

[Dale Jr.]

Hey, Everybody, it's Dale Jr. Back again for another episode of the Dale Jr. Download. It is. Oh, man. What episode is it? It's not on here. 698 698. Usually that's on the sheet.

[Russell]

Yeah.

[Dale Jr.]

You know, you look at the sheet, you might see something different every week. We're coming off of Las Vegas.

[Russell]

Hey, I printed you standings and results.

[Dale Jr.]

You did. You presented standings results, which I'm thankful for. And we're recording this. Can I tell everybody? Recorded on Monday. Record on Monday. Because I'm going to test tires tomorrow for the Cars tour, and so getting some fall off. I'm excited to get behind the wheel of race car tomorrow. Wednesday's guest. I hinted on social media about how excited I was about this guest. It is none other than this figurine on the table right here, Magnum TA. Magnum, TA was a wrestler in the. In the 80s tag team partner with Dusty Rhodes and soon to be world champion before an auto accident ended his career. And I've never met him. I've been a big fan of his. I was a massive fan when I was a little boy, 10, 12 years old. And so Magna will be in here. Magnum will be in here for the. The interview, and that'll be out Wednesday. He's going to tell us his story about, you know, his career and overcoming the tragedy and all that good stuff. And also, we talked about getting into trading cards, right, tj? So we did. I brought this Randy Johnson autographed rookie card, and I'm going to keep it here in the studio until we get Randy on the show. Randy's a guest that I want on the show.

[Russell]

Love Randy.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah, Randy Johnson. Randy Johnson is also a photographer on the side, and he's been to NASCAR races. We got to get him, Randy. Come on, man. Get. Get on this show. I'm a huge fan, a big unit. I want to talk about him hitting that bird.

[Russell]

Stephen, go book.

[TJ Majors]

I mean, that bird.

[Russell]

That's hilarious.

[Dale Jr.]

I want to talk. This man was a machine.

[TJ Majors]

He was.

[Dale Jr.]

Let's go, Randy. We want you on the show. I'm going to set it back here with you. All right. There we go. Randy's up there. So when Randy comes. Well, we'll probably still leave it up there, but almost. I'm. I'm hoping that's like all these things in here are, like, manifesting good. Yeah, man. Yeah. Good energy. So, anyhow, good to see you, tj.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah. Welcome back. Have a good trip.

[Dale Jr.]

We are. We are in the Arby's studio.

[TJ Majors]

Yep.

[Dale Jr.]

We got to make sure people hear about the new Arby's Meet in three box. You got one sitting right there.

[TJ Majors]

I do, and I'm getting texts from people that are saying Your advertisements are working because they're going and getting this thing.

[Dale Jr.]

I love it. Well, you get more meal for your money at Arby's with that meat and three box lot of meat. Yeah, we have the meats in Arby's. I have. I've enjoyed this relationship, and it's kind of reconnected me with a brand that I was a big fan of years and years ago. So it is. And there's some things on their menu that I didn't know they had that are very good. Their Buffalo chicken sliders are amazing. But too late now. Yeah. Anyhow, um, Denny Hamlin winning his 61st win in the. In the Cup Series, overcoming a speed speeding penalty, which he seems to do every other race.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah.

[Dale Jr.]

We're going to get back to talking NASCAR in a minute. But you brought a case. Yeah, I did bring his case. So I, I went. I told you I was going through all of my old baseball cards.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah. So I, I sent me that list.

[Dale Jr.]

I found them and. And these are the ones that actually have some value. So here's my little case I present to you.

[TJ Majors]

When did you get your case?

[Dale Jr.]

I bought it off of Amazon.

[TJ Majors]

After you saw mine?

[Dale Jr.]

I don't know. Yes, I did see your case. Yeah. So I've been putting them all in these nice little. So I've had these in storage and they're in perfect condition, and I've been pricing each one, looking up the value of each one in raw condition and putting the ones that have re. You know, any real value in this case.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, it's a good idea because cards can. You can have so many of them things.

[Dale Jr.]

I'll let you look to it.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, take a look a little bit. Nice.

[Dale Jr.]

Let's talk about a little confrontation that happened on the pit road. Suarez and Chastain got into it. Right. There's a little bit of a. I don't know what happened on the racetrack. I guess

[TJ Majors]

I went back and watched both of them and I can't really find a lot, like, other than just racing each other hard.

[Dale Jr.]

What was going. Oh, so you didn't see anything. So, I mean, this.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, they're doing a lot of air blocking.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah, well, Chastain is the man at air blocking. Like, that's what he's known for.

[TJ Majors]

I mean, Suarez is not bad. It's not far from it.

[Dale Jr.]

Suarez is out front. Chastain's trying to go to the high side here and turn three and four. He doesn't have a run. He might.

[TJ Majors]

He'll get a run off this Right here. This will get a run.

[Dale Jr.]

All right. Getting right up on his bumper here.

[TJ Majors]

Now it's the game of where you going? And Suarez doesn't go to the bottom. He's just working up right there. I mean that's.

[Dale Jr.]

Ross is trying to get his right rear quarter panel. He gets there.

[TJ Majors]

So there's a big lift right here. You can't hear it but there's a huge lift. So.

[Dale Jr.]

All right, so that was it. I mean he didn't like him so far.

[Russell]

That's any. That's all anyone's ever seen from the race.

[TJ Majors]

Oh, I think there's one other instance where they're around each other.

[Dale Jr.]

Well, look. So when discussing this, reporters asked Chastain and he said not a chance for a comment. Suarez did offer this saying our relationship has always been a little weird. Almost like a little bit of two faced on his part. Which I mean I, I think that a guy can be one way off the track and a guy can be a completely different way on the track.

[TJ Majors]

That happens.

[Dale Jr.]

Logano, great example of that. Super good guy. Nice.

[TJ Majors]

You don't want to race.

[Dale Jr.]

Hang out with him on the racetrack. You wouldn't recognize him. Completely different person.

[Russell]

I just hate that Ross is going to not even talk about it.

[Dale Jr.]

Look, we don't. I don't know.

[TJ Majors]

He never really does.

[Russell]

I know. I hate like.

[TJ Majors]

Well, that kind of stopped after the darlington and all that.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah, that's true.

[TJ Majors]

That all got put.

[Dale Jr.]

They did. Yeah. Ross did change after darlington.

[TJ Majors]

He did.

[Dale Jr.]

He is. He still races hard, but he does. He's not as much of a.

[TJ Majors]

Some car conversationalist certain cars.

[Dale Jr.]

Oh. I'm just saying he's not, he's not going to get out of the car and get in the talk to the talk on the microphone too much. Yeah. You know, Daniel's a, Daniel's a guy who has a bit of a chip on his shoulder. You know, he's, he's looking for the opportunity he feels like he deserves, you know and he's.

[TJ Majors]

He was fast.

[Dale Jr.]

He has been fast.

[TJ Majors]

He was fast yesterday.

[Dale Jr.]

He's been the, he's been a great spire car all year long.

[TJ Majors]

So my question is if we saw the video of Daniel moving Ross up the racetrack and then Daniel's the one going over to Ross. Is that just because after the race stuff and. Well, that really wasn't much either though.

[Dale Jr.]

I don't know what happened.

[TJ Majors]

You know what I mean? What prompts Daniel to go over there?

[Dale Jr.]

Anything on the racetrack that would.

[TJ Majors]

And Ross pulled up to him after the race and kind of swerved at him a little bit. But is that really a. I don't know.

[Russell]

This was, this was the straw, like, this was just like, excuse to have this happen.

[Dale Jr.]

There's, there seems to be, there seems to be some bad blood between the two drivers that, that exists from the

[TJ Majors]

past or is it the company? Because, I mean, I'm not going to lie. You go back to Coda a couple weeks ago, and I'm pretty sure Suarez took out Zillich in a turn one.

[Dale Jr.]

I don't know.

[TJ Majors]

That's how Zillich got spawned, right?

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah. Well, I don't, I don't think that Ross is going to fight Zilch's.

[TJ Majors]

No, but I'm just saying, like, dude,

[Dale Jr.]

these guys were teammates last year for sure and in years before that. So there's got to be something that has been brewing between them since years ago as teammates. Right. And so

[TJ Majors]

I mean, apparently, if the lip reading is correct, there probably is some bad blood.

[Dale Jr.]

Oh, yeah. So, yeah, I mean, well, I don't know. I, I, they were teammates and they must. Oh, I see it. That post race swerve.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, he swerved at him.

[Russell]

Oh, I mean, Ross made contact with it.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah, I didn't see that. Yeah, I see it now. You know, I think that if you do that to Daniel, Daniel's coming over to ask you about it. So. And, and we've seen that with Daniel before. He goes up to guys, he confronts them, he says, hey, you know, I, what was that about? Why did you do that?

[TJ Majors]

Like, Ross right here is just saying, I don't appreciate you running me up and almost into the fence right there.

[Dale Jr.]

When did he get run up into the fence?

[TJ Majors]

Well, they almost, when that lift was big, like they were getting ready to wreck right there.

[Dale Jr.]

But he jumped to his outside and kind of was on his door a little bit. I mean, I just think, look, Daniel

[TJ Majors]

was moving up as they went through the corner.

[Dale Jr.]

I see what happened in one and two is just racing. And I'm not, I don't, I mean,

[TJ Majors]

I'm not saying it's not, but guys don't like to be like, you can't keep working up the track if a guy's there.

[Dale Jr.]

I'm not. Let's watch it again.

[TJ Majors]

I'm just saying, don't forget you were wrong about Atlanta. So you don't want you to lose two.

[Dale Jr.]

I was. Ross gaining the spot. I don't care what the hell happens to Daniel, you know, so I'm not going to go. I'm not Going to go. I'm not going to gain the spot and be mad.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, No, I get it. Like, I'm not sure that, like, there's stuff. I feel like there's something else going on because just. You got the spot.

[Dale Jr.]

There was no big of a deal.

[TJ Majors]

There was no contact. You actually didn't hit. But, like. Like, I didn't see much before that. I watched a handful of laps, too, and I couldn't find anything. So. Yeah, there's probably just some bad blood here.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah. Well, after this, they both walked away in the same direction independently. You know, there was. It wasn't like, hey, you know, I want to fight. So, I mean, it was some words said, and I don't know.

[TJ Majors]

I don't feel like this is that big of a deal, but, I mean,

[Dale Jr.]

they're right there talking.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah. And Daniel kind of grabs onto him, and that's when Ross is, like, grabbing back, I believe.

[Dale Jr.]

See how he just put his hand in his chest?

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, but I.

[Dale Jr.]

Hands off me.

[TJ Majors]

Last time somebody did it to Ross, you swung.

[Dale Jr.]

He did. I mean, I don't want to mess with either one of them boys. Daniel will fight you. He swung on Big McDowell at Phoenix, right?

[TJ Majors]

Yeah.

[Dale Jr.]

Put him in a headlock. I think Ross ain't gonna put up. No.

[TJ Majors]

Maybe we should just let him. Let him go right there. Yeah.

[Dale Jr.]

I don't think it's over. That's far from it.

[TJ Majors]

They're not letting each other go when they catch each other.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah.

[Russell]

And, you know, they're gonna be racing around each other a lot like it's. They're gonna be.

[Dale Jr.]

There are two guys that ain't scared to. To go at it in or out of the car. And so I don't see it. I don't see it going away.

[TJ Majors]

Nope. It's going to be fun to watch.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah. But I think so. Daniel, you got to think about it, too, man. He's. He got. You know, he didn't get retained by a track house, so he's in this fire car trying to prove they were wrong to let him go. Right. And he's making a pretty damn good case of that.

[TJ Majors]

He's had a good. Yeah, I mean, he ran. I thought he ran pretty good.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah. So it'd be interesting to see how it goes. I definitely have been watching them because of that fact. Anytime you get let go of a car, you know, you got a chip on your shoulder. You want to go out there and prove that they made a mistake, that the problem wasn't you. So I've been Watching Daniel this year. So Suarez posted a vlog online. A long description. Yep. Suarez says that he came over to Ross after the race in order to apologize for their run in and turn to TJ and explained what happened. And he felt like what happened between them was just racing, which I would agree with. But he says, you know, he was upset and disappointed with what happened afterwards with Ross and what Ross said to him on pit road. And here it is. Quote, I have known Ross for a long time, and I've always known that he and I were very different kinds of people. But that's okay. I have a lot of respect for him, but the kind of words that he said after the race, it's just completely unacceptable. That's chicken stuff. That's not good. I lost a lot of respect for him as a person because it's just not good. It's not a good look for him and not a good look for the kind of person that he is, I think. And it was just a little bit sad, to be honest. I really wanted to. I was getting fired up to fight, but what I was. What was I going to gain? There's nothing to gain with that. He's not the kind of person I really want to fight, but just disappointed. The Suarez mentioned that he took issue with Ross hitting him on the cooldown lap, saying that was unacceptable given that the drivers were loosening belts and so forth at the time and that Ross apparently denied doing this. I said to him, hey, you hit me on the back straightaway. He said, no, I didn't. I said, you hit me on the back straightaway. You turned right into me and hit me. He said, oh, you were next to me. I said, yeah, I was giving you the hand. I apologize for what happened a few laps before. And obviously he completely forgot about what happened off of turn two.

[TJ Majors]

Lap two.

[Dale Jr.]

Oh. Suarez said that he had an issue with his left front on the last run of the race that affected the way his car drove, which influenced him crowding Ross off of turn two. He said he understood Ross was mad, but he thought it was a little unnecessary for Ross giving him the finger for a lap and a half. And based off of Suarez's own board, it looked like Chastain flipped him off as he completed the pass all the way until he got to turn 3. Daniel stated by re referencing the contact between him and Ross on lap two, which he said wasn't a big deal and didn't influence the way that he raced Ross the rest of the day. I'm pretty sure that he didn't mean to do that. It's part of racing. Suarez overall thought that Ross crossed the line with what he said to him. Based on lip reading, enhanced audio that's gotten posted around, it seemed like Ross made some comments about the end of Suarez's time at track house, like, you got fired. Incidentally. Suarez also addressed the idea that he's been out to get trackhouse cars and has been racing them especially aggressively, which he denied saying, I'm not even thinking about that. So that's all pretty interesting to hear from Daniel. I wonder if Ross will have a rebuttal of sorts. I'm sure there's two sides to every story. Yeah, just. I don't know. I wish, maybe. Only thing I guess is I wish Daniel would have went into more detail about what Ross said that bothered him so badly.

[Russell]

He might have. We're just. It's also taking off what Stephen Taranto had to his reporting of it.

[Dale Jr.]

So there's a, There's a blog that Suarez has written, but that at least

[Russell]

lets us know why Suarez went up to him.

[Dale Jr.]

Stephen, sort of, you know, summary of, of said block.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, I mean, I, from what I saw with the racing stuff, that's what I saw. I mean, I, I. Daniel definitely went to the corner to air block Ross. He was taking his air going up the racetrack and he got to a certain point, knew that he had to live because Ross was there. And I mean, you know how many times I saw that happen, that throughout that day? Numerous, like tons of times. That's how it is. So I'm not like, I think it was just racing.

[Dale Jr.]

Is this a co. Is this a story? Is this a case of guys just kind of hanging on too tight? Like, man, why are we. Why are we. Why we give. Why are we so spun out? I think, are we wound a bit tight? Both of them? Are they wound a bit too tight maybe?

[TJ Majors]

I think they're both hard racers right now too, so.

[Russell]

Yes. But also, like, if we take Suarez as where they's going to apologize and like, why is Ross, like, immediately getting so offensive?

[Dale Jr.]

Upset? Yeah. I don't know.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah.

[Dale Jr.]

I guess Ross was bothered by how he got raced off a turn too, but Ross completes the path. Right. I mean, I'm thinking in my mind, look, I'm.

[TJ Majors]

Then flips them off.

[Dale Jr.]

He probably. To your point, TJ thinks that Daniel's coming up the track intentionally, but Daniel's talking about how his car wasn't driving good and he was having trouble with keeping his car low. I don't know, man, I think they're wound a bit too tight.

[Russell]

Well, you think, you know, Suarez just got fired. He's trying to hold on, and then Ross is. All of a sudden, he was the face of trackhouse, but now there's svg and then.

[Dale Jr.]

And they went. And they went into Vegas expecting better results because Ross ran really good there last year. It was just, you know, he. The moment.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, I like it. It's racing.

[Russell]

I hope it continues.

[Dale Jr.]

The thing is, is, man, Daniel's a good dude and Ross is a good guy. I like them both. And while I can definitely see why there might be some friction between the two because, you know, they were teammates and now they're not. And that was a contentious sort of split there for a while between track House and Daniel. Yeah, I don't know. They're, they're, they're. I like them both, but I don't

[TJ Majors]

see this being anything. I would expect these guys to race like this, no matter all. Every lap of every race.

[Dale Jr.]

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[Dale Jr.]

Let's move on to Denny. 61 wins. That's a big number. JGR goes first, fourth, fifth and eighth. You know what do we make of. You know Hendrick was right up there as well. They both have led all of the laps in the last two races at Vegas for the most part. Hendrick Chevrolet with the new body. That's got to be promising to see it a mile and a half. But Denny was able to, you know look Chase was faster at the end of the race. The. The laps ran out that, that track

[TJ Majors]

goes through a swing.

[Dale Jr.]

Yep.

[TJ Majors]

Late in the, late in the afternoon there with that the shade one and two.

[Dale Jr.]

So the laps ran out. The nine car was faster. But also we know that even if he had 10, 15 more laps with the arrow disadvantage you have as a second car following in in the next gen. I think Denny was pretty comfortable out there.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah. But I feel like and I would like more of it. You could hurt the tires yesterday. You could hurt them and some guys there's a, there's a. The one caution saved a couple of these guys like Ty Gibbs right before the yellow for Connor was going back. He was like quick like And Reddick at the end of the race like the last lap. Reddick almost wrecked by himself off a turn too. I don't know if the TV saw that or not but he, he almost wrecked because he was fading that quick. So there was a, there was a fine line that you had to walk and I think the track was going through a change. Getting cooler and wanting to wind was dying down maybe a little bit as well.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah.

[TJ Majors]

So I don't know. It was it was interesting on that side of things. I think I would like to see more of it. I feel like the tires fell off and then they kind of plateaued a little bit, lap time wise. It'd be cool if they would keep falling some, but.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah, well, I think that's been the, you know, they have been able to build a tire that does fall off more, but it does seem like, you know, when it does reach that limit, it's. It does plateau and stop. You know, it just falls off to a certain degree. And the drivers have talked about how, like at Martinsville and some other places where they've tried to bring that short track tire in. They all, they're all like, yeah, we love the fall off, but we all fall off the same and then we all stop, you know, and so trying to find out how to make a tire that punishes someone who runs too hard early is the tricky part. Right. We're getting to where we can really do a good job of building a tire that does fall off. But now trying to figure out how to reward certain drivers for driving the car straight is going to be another tricky deal, which I feel like they're

[TJ Majors]

getting closer to, for sure.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah, I think this is great for Denny, obviously, to get out of here with a win, create momentum. Going into Darlington with a great opportunity to go in there and grab another win. Denny knows how to set himself up early in this system. Talking about the point system that we have this year, Denny knows he's had to kind of, you know, he's had to kind of climb out of a hole that he started, put himself in early. But, you know, now that we look at the points, let's see here, Denny. Denny's all the way up to fourth in points, only 78 out.

[Russell]

He was 1 minus 126 after Coda.

[Dale Jr.]

Right. So he's done a really, really good job. And he's going into a racetrack where he can make even more, you know, more hay and try to continue to close that gap. You know, we talked about.

[TJ Majors]

Does he really have any bad tracks coming up? You know what I mean?

[Dale Jr.]

No, but I'm just saying, like, he's. He is now, you know, he was such a favorite last year and look like, you know, just laps away from winning a championship. How does he come into this year? New system. I think this system.

[TJ Majors]

I think it's better for him.

[Dale Jr.]

Better for him. I do. I think this system will reward a driver like him that can be consistent and win periodically throughout the year. And all he needs to do is find his way into that top three, which I think he will do without question, and give himself a very, very good chance of going out there and winning the championship this year.

[TJ Majors]

So I think you got to give a lot of credit to the Chris Gale on them on this car because you go to the back like that and you pass the entire field pretty much.

[Dale Jr.]

I've seen enough. Denny Hamlin is my pick for the championship this year.

[Russell]

Okay, then what do you make of his ability to win as he gets older? His success rate after 700 career start.

[Dale Jr.]

Like he talks about how hard he works and look, this is the thing that, so Denny gets out of his car and I've heard him say this before, he gets out of the car and he says, I'm not as good as all those guys. I got to work harder. I work really hard. I am not, I, I, I don't believe he's correct.

[TJ Majors]

I don't think he's out working some of these guys.

[Dale Jr.]

I don't think he's out working them guys. He's got too much to do. He says he's working hard. I believe he is.

[TJ Majors]

I believe he's working hard.

[Dale Jr.]

He's working hard. I do too, but everybody else is working hard. I do believe he's good as some of them guys. I do believe he's better than some of them guys. I think that he's better than quite possibly a kale yard burrow. Some of those big names that he's looked up to, right? Well, I don't know. A couple more years, you might put him on the Mount Rushmore. Right? You might. I do believe talent wise, he ranks way higher than he wants to admit. He probably deep down inside believes that he ranks higher, but he's just not going to say it. And so he says, well, you know, I'm not as good as some of them guys, but I work harder and that's how I do this. There are, I said this before. There are anomalies in our history of drivers who didn't fall off. There are guys that won races in their, their late 40s, into their 50s. They just didn't fall off for whatever reason. A lot of guys tend to fall off around the same time frame. In those early 40s, mid-40s, they're, they're toast. And he's not doing that. He's an anomaly. He, he's a, he's a unicorn. He's one of those guys that mentally is as sharp as he can be, can and still has the passion and the motivation to go out there and do it and put risk. What. You know, you got to take risks. You got to put yourself in situations that are uncomfortable. Well, when you get older, you start not doing that. You quit taking risks, you quit going into the uncomfortable places. You. You get comfortable, you get complacent. You. You're, you know, for the most part, you're well off financially, and you no longer start to do the things that you were doing. Right. That made you. That got you there. Well, he still has that passion in that work ethic to do what's necessary, but I think he's a extremely, extremely talented driver just. Just by the seat of the pants, the feel of the car and the steering wheel in his hands. I mean, he just really, really understands how to get that car around the racetrack better than a lot of people. And so

[TJ Majors]

I will say, a lot of that, I do believe, is being with Gibbs as long as he has, because that keeps that door open. Because Kyle Busch, if he was still at Gibbs, could he still be winning?

[Dale Jr.]

Hell, yes.

[TJ Majors]

That's what I'm saying, though. There's. That the equipment is a big part of Danny's equation, and he's done a good job keeping that. Yeah, no, that all. Yeah, for sure.

[Dale Jr.]

He started 23:11. They're running good enough that, you know,

[TJ Majors]

first three races, I'm just.

[Dale Jr.]

No, I'm just saying they're running good enough for him to genuinely think about, like, could I go there? Could I be there? I don't know if the financials work. I don't know if he can, you know, the sponsorships, and I'm sure they could figure it out, but he's not done it. He stayed. He's staying where he's at because he

[TJ Majors]

knows that's his home.

[Dale Jr.]

That's his home. And that's where, you know, if he wants to truly finally secure that championship. Why step out of a cycle that's really productive into something that you think could work? But you really.

[TJ Majors]

That championship is going to get a lot harder at 23.

[Dale Jr.]

I agree. So, you know, I think this is his year. I think this point system and this success early, the momentum going into Darlington, I just got a feeling that he's going to be one of those guys that puts himself toward the top of this thing as we get out of the regular season.

[Russell]

I think getting this win early, too, is important for him because he talked about how at Bowman Gray he was. He was racing, but he really was in the car and, like, wanting to get back into it. I think now you get that victory and it's like, all right, let's go. And now you're. You're ready to take on the season.

[Dale Jr.]

The. The personal motivation, the passion and all that stuff. He talked about that in his post race as well, how that it's all come back to him. You know, you kind of. You. You have something tragic in your life happen or whatever. You fall out of love, priorities shift. You know, you question really where you want to be in your life and what you really want to be putting your energy into.

[TJ Majors]

Priorities definitely shift.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah. And so it's good to see him sort of, you know, understanding, man. He's got to understand, like, the things are too good right now. And these are the. These are. This won't be like this forever. And he's closer to the end than he is the beginning, right?

[TJ Majors]

Oh, for sure.

[Dale Jr.]

And so, like, I. And hopefully, like, I think he's recognizing that, like, I'm going to make the most of what's left here.

[TJ Majors]

I'll be honest, man, the season starts so weird now compared to what we're used to. All the years you kind of. You didn't have two plate races to start the year and then followed by a road course. That's not really a. Like, that's not really a traditional or a fair shake to see how it's really gonna. How the season is gonna take shape. In my opinion, you. You could have two guys dnf those plate races that are really championship contenders.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah.

[TJ Majors]

And. And they were not. Not even their fault. Right. So I definitely think it shakes the point system up quite a bit. And. But I. Now you're getting into the. Into where this is what most of the schedule is now is, you know, the Vegas, the Phoenix. Now we're going Darlington and we're gonna hit a short track and two short tracks coming up. So I really feel like you're getting ready to see the guys that are going to shine.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah, we talked about it. Hendrick having a pretty solid day. Good to see, I guess in their eyes, if you're a Chevrolet fan, a Hendrick fan, good to see the car just perform well. It's a brand new nose. You just never know. Something even so subtle is the. Is the. It's very subtle changes in that car. But even that can make, you know, play havoc on the balance of the car and the teams trying to figure out how to get speed in that. But it's good to see, you know, them go up there and run well. Chase Elliot almost being able to pull off a win Late in the race, Byron driving up, leading some laps, Larson running well, as, as he was. It's got to be pretty difficult, I think, you know, you got the fourth car there. You got Bowman, who's out. They had Justin in the car this weekend. The weekend before that they had Anthony Alfredo. Anthony Alfredo. And so it's, you know, I think it's not surprising, I guess, to see Hendrick running.

[TJ Majors]

I feel like they're on par.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah.

[TJ Majors]

But I don't feel like it's anything different.

[Dale Jr.]

But I think the bigger question, I think there is, you know, Bowman, how does he get well?

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, hopefully he's doing better.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah, he, you know, there was some vertigo that he's dealing with. And I guess Mike Joy said on the broadcast they, they, that they don't believe this to be concussion related.

[TJ Majors]

I read that.

[Dale Jr.]

Yep. And so, you know, just how, how do you. I'm sure he's seeing doctors. I'm sure he's trying everything he can to get this to go away. I've never experienced vertigo. Heard stories of different people that have dealt with it in the past and how at times it's challenging to get rid of and other times it's as easy as a doctor doing a reset. I think that Rick Hendrick loves to tell this story. Back when Terry Labonte was driving his race car, Terry had a vertigo incident. And they sent Terry, Terry's doctor sent him to the amusement park and he rode, rode roller coasters all day. And that fixed it. And so, you know, it's. The maneuver that they'll do for you is very, you know, it's just twisting and turning your head in certain motions. And so, you know, I guess that's not working for Alex.

[TJ Majors]

Well, more hopefully it gets better. Man, if you don't have your health, you don't have anything. So hopefully Alex, it starts getting better and can get back into a race car.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah, it, it presents opportunity. So it'll be, I'll be curious, you know, as to how Hendrick navigates the next couple of weeks with the 48. Who goes in there? Does Anthony get another shot? Anthony does a ton of sim for, for that program and that's, I believe, why he was, you know, given the opportunity at Phoenix.

[TJ Majors]

But he's a little more sim in the O'Reilly car.

[Dale Jr.]

Well, I gave him on social media. Yeah, we had, me and him.

[TJ Majors]

I like Anthony.

[Dale Jr.]

We had a conversation. I was, you know, he spun out lavar at Phoenix pointless. It brought out a yellow. The one was likely going to win the race. Carson is going to win the race. Luckily, the seven got up there and won it. But I was sitting there thinking, man, we didn't need that yellow.

[TJ Majors]

You mean both.

[Dale Jr.]

I was pissed off about that for a couple of days, and Mark Martin opened the door for me to say something. But I talked to Anthony. It's a. You know, it's gonna be interesting to see how that plays out and what this means for Alex long term. I don't know. You know, I'm not going to speculate, but let's move over to the Fords coming out of Las Vegas. Penske 23:11 or. Well, Penske and Roush Keselowski got a top 10, but, I mean, the Fords, I was expecting a bit more, I think. Yeah.

[TJ Majors]

Not the strongest weekend, for sure.

[Dale Jr.]

What's the deal? Why?

[TJ Majors]

I don't know. I was really surprised by the Penske cars. Like, that's just not like them.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah.

[TJ Majors]

To be. Especially, I mean, rfk, you know, you

[Dale Jr.]

could say, had a pretty solid day. I'm sure y' all have higher standards for yourselves.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, I would have liked to qualify better with Brad, but.

[Dale Jr.]

But, I mean, Priest ran up in the top 10. Yeah. All of y' all were right there around each other.

[TJ Majors]

Priest and Busher ran top 10, pretty much.

[Dale Jr.]

Are y' all happy with that? Do y' all expect more? Do you.

[TJ Majors]

I think you always want more. Right. But I feel. I feel like it was a good building block now that we're at a

[Dale Jr.]

disadvantage as an organization. Is Ford the automobile at a disadvantage? At a. At a Vegas?

[TJ Majors]

I don't know.

[Dale Jr.]

I mean, you really didn't see any of the Fords.

[TJ Majors]

No, but, I mean, it's. You're like. I feel like RFK was probably the third best company there that day. I feel like, you know, as a whole.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah.

[TJ Majors]

But I got.

[Russell]

You understand, hard to compete, though, when you have the big two.

[Dale Jr.]

I mean, they were. Yeah, you're right. I mean, you got Joe Gibbs and Hendrick kind of filling out.

[Russell]

There's seven spots.

[Dale Jr.]

Seven or eight.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah. At least there. So.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah.

[TJ Majors]

But, I mean, I. Yeah, I definitely feel like there's. I think there's room to improve there. I thought the week before Blaney shined when he was supposed to, and he did. He stepped up, so.

[Dale Jr.]

True. True.

[TJ Majors]

You know, the sheet here says you have more confidence in Penske or 2311. I mean, I don't really. And I know Tyler won the first three races, but Daytona, things lined up for him. That could have been anybody. Atlanta kind of could have Been the same thing. Those are kind of wild cards, in my opinion. Tyler did a great job at Cota. That was. Tyler did an awesome job at Coda, but looking at Vegas or, you know, Phoenix, Blaney was the pick pretty much, so to win, and he did. So I don't know. I feel like it's. Feel like they're pretty neck and neck right now. I like some of the tracks that we're going to coming up. I like. I think Darlington plays into our hands a little bit more when the. When this pay slows down or. And stuff like that, and it's more driver and finesse. I feel like we got a lot of that there with Joey Blaney.

[Dale Jr.]

And one of the things that I think is really fascinating is so we. For the past, I don't know how many years, four or five years, we've always assumed that Penske was going to have a shot. If they get a car in the Final Four, they got a shot.

[Russell]

Right.

[Dale Jr.]

Because Penske and Phoenix are, as they are still today, married with one another. But now that we don't really. Now that that is completely upended, where do we view Penske as an organization? Are they part of the Big Three? Are they. If you're looking at, you know, the top teams as the A, and then you got the B's, and then you got the C's and these. Do you have Hendrick, Gibbs and then the B teams and Penske's part of that group. Do you see Penske and RFK in the same vein? You see them as similar organizations?

[TJ Majors]

I feel like it's getting closer.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah, a gap.

[TJ Majors]

I feel like it's getting closer.

[Dale Jr.]

Does Penske need to do more to put themselves back up in there in the A?

[Russell]

I think so. I think right now there's a. It's Hendrick and Joe Gibbs, 1A, 1B separation.

[Dale Jr.]

Really?

[Russell]

Penske. And then you have 2311 knocking on the door of Penske, and then RFK right below 23.

[TJ Majors]

So during the season, who's the car. Who's the main Penske car, like during the season? Ben that wins races?

[Dale Jr.]

Just Blaney.

[TJ Majors]

I mean, that's kind of what I see there, too. But then. But Joey's. I mean, Joey's. He. He's good at.

[Dale Jr.]

Joey can pop off anyone.

[Russell]

The consistency.

[TJ Majors]

But this isn't gonna. This new system doesn't.

[Dale Jr.]

Doesn't provide, doesn't pay. That doesn't. No, it doesn't reward what style of

[TJ Majors]

racing he's been doing.

[Dale Jr.]

Yes. It doesn't reward A lot of mediocrity. Yeah, Yeah, I hear you, man.

[TJ Majors]

We got a good. They have a lot of strong races in the playoffs still. I mean. Yeah, Blaney's are. Blaney's the best in Martinsville.

[Dale Jr.]

They are going to have a lot of strong races in the playoffs, but they're going to need to be.

[Russell]

Yeah.

[Dale Jr.]

A top three, top four, top five team in the regular season.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah.

[Dale Jr.]

To have a real shot at it.

[TJ Majors]

So it's definitely more challenging now.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah. You got right now Blaney and third and points, and then the only other forward in the top tens, busher, Joey's 11th.

[TJ Majors]

You got a bunch of them between 9th and 12. I mean, right in that area. There's a bunch, right.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah. Cedric's. He's 30th. He's out of it.

[Russell]

TJ, where would you like to see Brad, like, these next three races? If I told you Brad is in eighth and points, what would you like to see these next?

[TJ Majors]

I would like to gain. I would like to be between six and probably 10th in points, something like that, because I feel like you can. I just want to. I mean, I feel like we're starting to chip away at it. We just got to qualify good and start getting some stage points, so. But it's just tough, man. I mean, I would like to be in the single digits at least now.

[Russell]

Like last year, you guys had the bad start, so you're qualifying going out first, and it's just hard to qualify.

[TJ Majors]

Well, it's very hard. Well, Phoenix was tough, too, because, you know, going to this weekend, we didn't have a. It was tough, but we have some good races coming up, so I think if we can just go and. And we normally get good during the summer. Like, normally when the racetracks get hot and slick, we normally make up ground in the summer. Like, we've left Daytona and Atlanta before. 35th in points, and I think we got to, like, seventh in the points, like, just straight up. So I feel like we. We can have a really strong summer, and, I mean, you're gonna have to have a strong summer to be in the chase. The playoffs now.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah, well. Yes. They asked Kyle Larson in the. In the media center whether the drivers were looking at points every week. Like the. Like. Like the media is. Or the fans. Larson said he's not looking at points yet. Yeah, I feel like we are all looking at points because we're just curious as to how this is going to play out. But I think we also realize, like. Like the times now, like, you like every week you need to be stacking these things up.

[TJ Majors]

I look more now than I did.

[Dale Jr.]

I'm fascinated by Briscoe.

[Russell]

And SVG told Gluck on the. Gluck has that. The teams have like projections and are telling the drivers, yeah, this is what we need from you each week.

[TJ Majors]

I mean, we've always kind of had that, you know, but there. There was always the wild card. If you win, yeah, you're in. So it didn't matter if you finished 35th. You're like, you know what? I was.

[Russell]

Go win next.

[Dale Jr.]

Oh, man, I'm glued to the points fan and media, whatever you want to call me.

[TJ Majors]

Look at one bad race, though. Look at svg, dude.

[Dale Jr.]

I know it.

[TJ Majors]

One bad race.

[Dale Jr.]

I'm not glad that happened to him, but I love that it's got that effect. And I've saw. I've saw. You know, I'm looking in social media. I hear people, you know, there'll be a fan or two saying, my guy's already out of it. What am I. Why am I supposed to like.

[TJ Majors]

That's not really true. No, no, it's not true. You just got to get hot. You got to stay consistent.

[Dale Jr.]

There are some people, dude, that are out of it. Well. And we know who they are.

[TJ Majors]

Yes.

[Dale Jr.]

They were never in it to begin with.

[TJ Majors]

Let me ask you this.

[Dale Jr.]

That was my reply. The guy said, my driver's out of it. Why am I supposed to like this? And I said, your driver was never in it. I don't even know who he is. And I can tell your ass he never had a shot.

[TJ Majors]

Where's your cutoff line right now?

[Dale Jr.]

My cutoff line?

[TJ Majors]

Where do you think? Your cutoff line?

[Dale Jr.]

Well, all right. My cutoff line, Right.

[TJ Majors]

Is Kyle Busch out of it?

[Dale Jr.]

Yes. Yes. My cutoff line is probably. I am going to say that. My cutoff line is eighth place, William Byron.

[TJ Majors]

Damn. Yeah, the more. More shade on Bush.

[Dale Jr.]

He's ninth. He's.

[TJ Majors]

I know you just right there.

[Dale Jr.]

Right there. He's not 30th.

[TJ Majors]

He's going to kick your ass, man. He's about over you.

[Russell]

Well, tell me when.

[Dale Jr.]

Where's your cutoff line? Who do you.

[TJ Majors]

I mean, I don't know, man.

[Dale Jr.]

I got to tell me. Who you believe can roll their way into a championship below eighth?

[Russell]

Well, he's gonna say 12th.

[TJ Majors]

I don't know. I mean, I still. I. I hate. That's kind of sound crazy, but Ty Gibbs, can he stay hot?

[Dale Jr.]

Can he win the championship? No.

[TJ Majors]

Can he run top? He's Been pretty consistent so far, minus sprint car race.

[Dale Jr.]

I mean, he'll top. He could top 10 himself into the. In the points, but I don't see him as a champion.

[TJ Majors]

What if he wins Darlington?

[Dale Jr.]

Do I think he can win the championship?

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, he wins Arlington. Is he.

[Dale Jr.]

And do you think, okay, well, I mean, he would. He would probably launch himself into that top eight.

[Russell]

If he shows me that he can win, then I'm like, okay, I believe that he's one championship, but until he can get that win, he's.

[Dale Jr.]

If he. If he won Darlington, he would be above my cutoff.

[TJ Majors]

I'm just saying I feel like. I feel like a William Byron or even.

[Dale Jr.]

Even.

[TJ Majors]

What if Chris Bucher wins two, three in a row like he did? You know what I mean?

[Dale Jr.]

What if he would then move into.

[TJ Majors]

Above my cutoff line, but then say he follows that up with a. A few times. Can a guy get hot enough during the summer to bring himself into there?

[Dale Jr.]

I. What I want you to visualize is this. Okay. And this. I'm being genuine. What I. People are going to look at my cutoff, and if I say eighth place, you're going to go, wow, how could you say that so early? Any of these guys could do stuff to move forward there. You're. You're not wrong. I'm only telling you that I don't think that anyone can win from outside of the top eight. In the playoffs.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah.

[Dale Jr.]

In the Chase. So you need to be preferably in the top three. But I could see in a rare occasion, a guy from 8th winning the championship.

[TJ Majors]

So you're not really looking at any names.

[Dale Jr.]

I'm not looking at names.

[TJ Majors]

You're just going by a number.

[Dale Jr.]

I just think, man, if you're not in the top eight, I feel like you don't have much of a shot.

[Russell]

I think NASCAR mocked it. If you're outside the top six, they. You wouldn't have won it.

[Dale Jr.]

Sorry.

[Russell]

If you were outside the top six when nascar, like, did their mocks, you wouldn't win the.

[TJ Majors]

From this race or, you know, like,

[Russell]

doing like, past seasons, they mock NASCAR

[Dale Jr.]

using this current point system. Ran through however many past years, and no one out of the top six won.

[Russell]

Yeah. So Dale's eight.

[Dale Jr.]

Like, my eight's conservative.

[Russell]

Yeah.

[Dale Jr.]

So, yeah, I think. I think if you really want your drive, if you're really a fan and you want to be serious about your guy having a chance, you need to be rooting that he's finding himself in that top eight.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, I think that's a fair. I Mean, it's a fair number.

[Dale Jr.]

And so I just look at that instead of really looking at names and potential, I just look at, hey, man. All right, who's eighth? All right, all right. I could believe that, you know that any of those. William, Byron, Larson. Yes. I can believe they could get up there and get it. Get something going.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, the points are definitely starting to

[Dale Jr.]

take shape to how Bush or Gibbs, Logano, Kozlowski, Priest. They're going to have to start knocking down some points here soon or they're going to get. They're going to find themselves further and further and further and further.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, you got to start getting good stage points and good finishes.

[Russell]

That's here's on the screen is stage points. This is where you're seeing people separating themselves.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah. So stage points are telling us they're very critical this year. They're very important.

[Russell]

Brad's got two.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah, well, I mean, he's still 12th,

[Russell]

but that's what I'm saying, though. Like, if you can start stacking up the stage points.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, Bubba is second in points right now and he's got more stage points than anybody. 53. The next person has 37. Yeah, that's how you do it.

[TJ Majors]

I like how it's. So if Bubba had, you know, 15 less points, where is he at in regular points? He would be.

[Dale Jr.]

Well, he'd be fourth one point in front of Denny. Yeah, one point in front of Denny.

[TJ Majors]

I mean, but it'd be close.

[Dale Jr.]

It'd be close. I mean, it is very close from, from second to, you know, to 15th. Very tight. You got one guy way out there in front, Tyler Reddick, due to his three in a row, but they're closing in on him.

[TJ Majors]

I know it's a little bit.

[Dale Jr.]

That's a fun thing to watch too.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah.

[Dale Jr.]

Is that. Can, can he stop that from eroding away? Are we going to get to July and him sit there going, man, they're on my heels.

[Russell]

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[Russell]

All right, so first question. A lot of people have been tweeting in Facebook asking, what do you think about Sheldon Creed and Sam and Taylor Gray?

[Dale Jr.]

Taylor Gray. That's right. Well, I was watching the race, obviously pulling for our Junior Motorsports drivers to do well. And so going down the back straightaway, Sheldon goes low. Taylor Gray goes low as well. Taylor Gray's not really trying to go under Larson or I think it's the 17 of day. He does have a run, but he kind of moved down there early. And then. So Sheldon Creek goes even lower and Gray makes a second move. Don't you see it that way, tj, where he kind of. He made a move down to go under day into three, but then he made us, you know, like another half block.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah. And I think this has been going on. I think this was going on for a couple laps. Like, I kind of.

[Dale Jr.]

I saw that as well. That was one thing that the broadcast didn't tell us. The lap before was almost identical.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah.

[Dale Jr.]

Didn't you see that?

[TJ Majors]

Yeah. I mean, he was definitely to the point where it's getting kind of iffy. If you keep doing this, he's only

[Dale Jr.]

going to take it. So when Creed says, you know, you can only block so many times, I think that's what he was talking. He's also referring to the lap before where almost the same identical thing went down.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, I agree.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah.

[TJ Majors]

I mean, I don't. The great kid hat he's. You got to cover it earlier than that, in my opinion, because Sheldon obviously was. Looked like he was going to go to the bottom. The only way to change that is to. I mean, you got to go way earlier than that. You can't chop him at the last second and give Sheldon a chance to move up. I guess.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah.

[TJ Majors]

At that point, Sheldon's already committed to the bottom two, and you're just coming down, taking all the air in front of him and. And that's what happens.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah. I was kind of surprised, though, that Sheldon fenced him. I know you. You can. Sheldon maybe wanted to send a message, but didn't expect him to actually get into the fence. But what do you think him down in the wall there?

[TJ Majors]

What he. Did he have an interview after the race?

[Dale Jr.]

Taylor Gray?

[TJ Majors]

Yeah.

[Dale Jr.]

No. He's pretty disappointed. I didn't really see a post race interview or anything. But we. Here we go.

[Russell]

I don't know. He says, though, it's A video.

[Dale Jr.]

He just says in quotes here that Sheldon had the mentality to go into turn three and wreck me.

[TJ Majors]

Did he say, can you take me higher?

[Dale Jr.]

I just feel like that, you know, that I don't think either one of these guys are looking too good right now. I know that. I like the mentality of if you block, you pay. You know, blocking, there's some limitations to it, and I do feel like that Taylor Gray blocked the same block two laps in a row. And at least in the video that we got to see from the one where he gets wrecked, he made two moves like he moved below the 17, then moved another half a car when the double zero, Creed makes his move. And I don't know, man. I. I feel like you can block a lane, but you can't block the whole race track.

[TJ Majors]

It doesn't even go all the way to the bottom right here. You see what I mean? Like, you got to cover it earlier than that. So Sheldon Creed definitely.

[Dale Jr.]

Sheldon Creed did not have to put him in the wall, though, for that.

[TJ Majors]

He definitely didn't enter three with arms wide open.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah. I don't know that there's many things that justify getting put in the feet.

[Russell]

No, no.

[TJ Majors]

That's probably a little too far, but you could have worked him up a little bit. I don't think he was trying to wreck him.

[Dale Jr.]

I don't know. Yeah. Maybe Sheldon Creed just thought he was going to slide up the track and

[TJ Majors]

lose a spot, kind of what I.

[Dale Jr.]

Sheldon probably was like, holy.

[TJ Majors]

I mean, he's not really hitting him that hard right there.

[Dale Jr.]

I think Sheldon was like, oh, damn. I didn't expect that. Oops.

[TJ Majors]

So is that a move in. In 54's eyes, where if he doesn't try to save it right there that much because it kind of overcorrects. Right. If he just slides. I mean. Yeah, but, like, is that one of them ones where you just commit to spinning out and.

[Dale Jr.]

Oh, man, how can you. I don't know if you know.

[TJ Majors]

I'm just saying, like, I don't think you can.

[Dale Jr.]

I think you would end up. There's a good chance if you turn left and stood in the throttle, you'd still back in.

[TJ Majors]

I mean, that wasn't.

[Dale Jr.]

It would come around, hit left front.

[TJ Majors]

It wasn't like you hit him and instantly spun. It was like.

[Dale Jr.]

Well, the thing is, Sheldon sent him in the. Sheldon hit him and continued to drive him.

[TJ Majors]

Stayed on him.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah.

[TJ Majors]

Like, here you're going.

[Dale Jr.]

You know, honestly, the shame we don't see more of that on Sunday.

[TJ Majors]

It's usually JRM cars. It's better. It's not.

[Dale Jr.]

We have. We're working on that.

[TJ Majors]

It was a good race.

[Dale Jr.]

They were good this weekend.

[TJ Majors]

It was a good race.

[Russell]

Yeah.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah. Junior Motorsports, guys, we kind of had some that were decent and some that weren't so good. But it's. I guess it's good when you're frustrated running eighth, ninth.

[Russell]

Next question. People will know your reaction to have you seen Carson Hosavar's Darlington car?

[Dale Jr.]

I saw us like the unofficial poster fan photo from inside the garage. Oh. So, yeah, I haven't seen this. Check this. That's hilarious. So look, this is my favorite Dale Earnhardt paint scheme. It's the 1981 car and it gets no love because 81 was a lost year. Dad started the season driving for Rod Osterlin. Rod would sell the team to JD Stacy, which dad would race for four races before leaving to go to rcr and then at the end of the year leaving there to go to Bud Moore for two years. So the 81 year is forgotten, lost, unappreciated. But the car is underrated. That yellow nose with those old vintage stripes is just in my opinion, straight badass vintage.

[TJ Majors]

It stands out.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah. And so I've ran that scheme a time.

[TJ Majors]

You ran to Daytona?

[Dale Jr.]

We did. And so we ran it on Martin Trix, his car at Darlington when he won the championship in the chance to deal. I was so pissed off. We had. I'm like, I got Martin Trix Jr. In the car. That is my dad. My favorite scheme of my dad's. Right. We're going to Darlington with a chance to clinch and I'm on the pit box and I must have been practicing or something because I didn't see the car before they put it on the grid. But he pulls out on the racetrack to do his pace laps and they've got blue tape on the valence and so it's a yellow nose. And I'm like. I was. I don't know why that's hilarious to me today that I was so, so annoyed by that. But I was madder and hell that Bono Manion had put blue tape on the valence of the yellow nosed race car. I wanted yellow.

[Russell]

Yeah.

[Dale Jr.]

Right.

[TJ Majors]

And I was like, they did a poster for this car too. Did you see that? They remade the poster for like the race.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah.

[TJ Majors]

And they actually like, it's it. I thought the detail was actually really good because I think they changed back then. It was the, the back stretch was the front stretch. Right. And they actually Changed and made the poster.

[Dale Jr.]

There it is.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah. So if you look at.

[Dale Jr.]

Dude.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, so that's how it looks now in the old. They have a comparison of the old one.

[Dale Jr.]

It's right here. Posters right on the wall.

[TJ Majors]

We see the. I like to see the grandstands, but

[Dale Jr.]

you can't see in the camera shot.

[TJ Majors]

But yeah, I thought the detail was.

[Dale Jr.]

Dude, that's awesome. So this is awesome. I love this design. I love this paint scheme. They had to obviously slide the 77 back a little bit, which. Getting that number back to the center doors where it belongs, is awesome. Mark Martin, shout out. The other thing that I love is. And I said this on social media, so some fans out there believe that throwbacks are gone. Like, the idea of running throwbacks are gone. And so I'm like, you know, I'm reading on social media and as Bob Pocris and some other people were talking about how they're going to celebrate some of the. Some of the, you know, the past champions and legends of the sport at Darlington fans are like, whoa, I wish the. I wish Throwback Weekend was still a thing. And I'm. I don't know why they got rid of Throwback Weekend and. And man the throat. And then there's other people that are saying that throwback ran its course. The car. Nobody could do a throwback anymore any good. So I. I just find it. I don't know where people got the idea why. Not that anyone said you can't do throwbacks or we're not doing throwbacks. Nascar, basically. I don't know if their messaging wasn't good enough or whatever, but what probably should have been said was we're shifting our focus away from the idea of focusing on the throwback paint schemes. We're shifting the focus, actually, to the physical people and legends that are drive. Had drove those cars. They have had a lot of people come into Darlington in the past. So this is not nothing new. They celebrated the 75 greatest drivers of the sport on stage on the front straightaway there in last year or the year before. And so, you know, they've had a lot of, you know, historic guys come to this particular race for years. That's not, you know, every.

[TJ Majors]

Every time. I see.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah, so that's what they're. They're going to shift the focus toward that. No one ever, ever, ever, ever said, we're no longer doing throwbacks. And I think that that was something that kind of got lost in the whole conversation. Teams are still doing them, obviously. A lot of truck teams Xfinity teams, Cup teams. It's just no longer going to feel like this sort of forced campaign that you. You're. You're kind of scorned if you don't, and you're criticized if you do. Now, if teams want to do them, they can do them. The teams that don't want to do them don't have to do them. You don't even have to do it at Darlington. I know that we'll likely see a throwback somewhere else during the season, and that'll be for some. Some reason, some connection to that date or race. Yeah.

[Russell]

Which is fine. 23:11 this past weekend with Reddicks was Kurt Bush's winning. Like, you can do it wherever.

[Dale Jr.]

So for Everybody out there, NASCAR's not shunned the idea of a throwback paint scheme. There is just a new renewed focus, I think. And it's more of a track thing. The track itself is like, hey, man, the track would come to me in the past and go, oh, it's throwback Weekend. What. What decade should we focus on? And I'm like, why do you want to focus on a decade? Why. Why put everybody in this box?

[Russell]

Yeah, I agree.

[Dale Jr.]

And they were like, well, it needs a purpose. It needs a reason. It needs. You need something. I'm like, just let people do whatever the hell they want. Just let it be Throwback Weekend. And that's what you do. That's who you are. But they were like, no, we got to do the 70s next year we'll do the 90s and we'll do 80s. This. I'm like, why do you got. Because you're given. You're forcing yourself down this Runway, that's going to come to an end. And so in my mind, Darlington is our vintage retro track. And it should be where if you want to do something unique and kick it back to something old school, you can do it there. And it will be accepted, it will be appreciated, it will be expected. When teams, you know, Junior Motorsports hasn't done it all the time. We would go to Darlington and not have them. I would grind my teeth and go upstairs and go, hey, why aren't we running throwbacks? What the hell? You know, everybody's doing them. I'm talking about them. I'm in the booth and my cars don't even have them. But sometimes we just, you know, sponsors don't want to do it or whatever. So now it's sort of a no pressure thing.

[TJ Majors]

Do it if you want, do it if you want.

[Dale Jr.]

And I think, you know, That's. I'm great. I'd rather be that way. If you want. Now, if you do it, it's a bigger deal now. It's not expected. And when it happens, people go, oh, look at that. That's neat.

[Russell]

Yeah.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah. You know, this weekend's so hard to spot.

[Dale Jr.]

Oh, and we should be celebrating the physical people that have, you know, run them. We're standing on the shoulders of these giants. Right. I love that saying, that's who's going to be at the racetrack. That's who we should be celebrating.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah. That's why. That's why the scheme's out here.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah. That's why. That's what we should be thinking, looking at, talking about, you know, and so, yeah, the cars on track are kind of neat, and it's fun to see some good throwbacks out there. And we'll. We'll have our share in the truck and O'Reilly and the Cup Series.

[Russell]

Yep. Next question is, we have the NCAA tournament coming up this week. How many brackets will you fill out?

[Dale Jr.]

Just one.

[Russell]

I respect that.

[Dale Jr.]

Why do you need to fill out? That's kind of like.

[TJ Majors]

I didn't think there was, like, even

[Russell]

a play because then it's like, I'm rooting for this game here, but then it screws up my bracket over here. Just.

[Dale Jr.]

I know. I don't know. I mean, if you're betting.

[TJ Majors]

Oh, yeah. I mean, if you're.

[Dale Jr.]

If you're betting for money, maybe you're throwing. Casting more lines out into the lake. Right. But I'm not. And so I'll probably find one to fill out somewhere, and that'll be the one I hope works out.

[TJ Majors]

Just one.

[Russell]

Like, some people will put multiple brackets in the same pool. I don't think that should be allowed.

[Dale Jr.]

Well, I mean, that's. That's for the people that are trying to win money. They're no longer. They don't know. They no longer are investing emotionally into a bracket. They're just, like, trying to win, just playing the odds. I personally want to just fill out a bracket and then come in here one day and go, I was right on every freaking one.

[TJ Majors]

Travis, that's not gonna happen.

[Dale Jr.]

Look at here. I was not wrong once.

[Russell]

If he is, though, man, that bracket's gonna be on the wall for the

[Dale Jr.]

rest of the show. Right.

[Russell]

Actually, I hope it happens, because I most likely will. Tell your bets that I'll be celebrating.

[Dale Jr.]

So listen. Why? I. I usually wait for somebody to come to me and say, this sponsor wants you to join this thing and fill Out a bracket. But why don't we just do a dirty mo. Media group, Right. Where I'm sure everyone. Everyone in office is listening now, and we could all join, fill out our brackets, and that's that.

[Russell]

Yeah.

[TJ Majors]

Steven Stefan, let's set it up.

[Dale Jr.]

Let's see who does the best.

[Russell]

I'm all for it.

[Dale Jr.]

I want to do it, but I only like doing one.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, you can only do one.

[Dale Jr.]

That's. Yeah, yeah.

[Russell]

All right, we got time for one more. This one is. Which do you prefer, sausage patties or links?

[Dale Jr.]

Well, I like a biscuit, so I'm gonna go with patties. Sausage and cheese and egg.

[TJ Majors]

If it's not on a biscuit, what are you picking?

[Dale Jr.]

Sorry?

[TJ Majors]

If you don't have any biscuit, what do you.

[Russell]

Yeah, no sandwich. What are you doing?

[Dale Jr.]

I'll still go patty.

[TJ Majors]

Patty.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah. I'll put syrup on it or something.

[Russell]

See, that's the move right there.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah. Syrup is.

[Dale Jr.]

Whoops. It got off of my waffles onto my sausage. It's the people that don't make everything better.

[Russell]

I do like a sausage link, though, if I'm not on a sandwich.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah, okay.

[Russell]

I agree.

[TJ Majors]

I actually kind of agree with Travis on that.

[Dale Jr.]

They're all right. I don't know.

[TJ Majors]

You can't eat a link on a sandwich.

[Dale Jr.]

Not like them.

[Russell]

I actually had a sandwich once where they took the link and cut it in half. I don't need that. I'm like, that's. That's. No, I can't do that.

[Dale Jr.]

Let's do it. Let's add one more quick. Okay, end on this question.

[Russell]

I mean, we can. If we want to.

[Dale Jr.]

We can't probably. Can't be the end of the.

[Russell]

Okay, the next one is. How long should you wait until hitting your horn when you're behind someone at a light that turns green? If they're just sitting there, like, right away.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah, right away. Yeah.

[Russell]

A pregnant Paul.

[Dale Jr.]

There's an obvious moment where you realize they're not seeing the light.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah.

[Dale Jr.]

As soon as you recognize that that is the case. Little tap.

[TJ Majors]

It's second.

[Dale Jr.]

Little beep. Yeah. I don't. I don't lay on it. That's obnoxious. But I'll do a little.

[Russell]

The double tap move is the way to go.

[Dale Jr.]

I don't know, man. If you hit. If you lay on the horn, you're just right.

[Russell]

Oh, yeah.

[TJ Majors]

If it's like, lay on it.

[Dale Jr.]

No, no. I'm just saying if it's like 1, 2, 3, even. That's too much like a tap.

[Russell]

Is like excuse me.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah, that's right.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah it's like a tap on the shoulder nudges.

[Dale Jr.]

Okay man.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, I like I stand on it.

[Dale Jr.]

I'm the kind of person this ain't like when I drive down the road I wave. Do you wave? When's the last time you waved at somebody?

[Russell]

Oh if they're letting me in or

[Dale Jr.]

I'm no homecoming traffic. Come on bud. I'm a waiver. Just a car damn random person just coming at you.

[Russell]

Maybe if my windows down and my arms out.

[Dale Jr.]

When's the last time somebody's waved at you?

[Russell]

Not often.

[Dale Jr.]

You remember what did you think they're crazy? Oh, you thought they were psychopath.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah.

[Dale Jr.]

Really? Why are they not just the hey

[Russell]

man, I'm wondering did they know who I was?

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, that's what I was wanting. Did I know them? Who's what Do I recognize that that's

[Dale Jr.]

not a terrible thing. Am I supposed to know that person? I don't think. I don't think. Oh man. Psychopath. I think Damn, that's nice. Dale goes. Do you know that back in the 60s and 70s literally everyone waved at everyone driving down the road?

[Russell]

Is this facts?

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah facts.

[TJ Majors]

I don't think that's a fact.

[Dale Jr.]

That's a fact.

[TJ Majors]

I don't think that's a fact.

[Dale Jr.]

It's a fact. Everyone waved at everybody in town riding around. I mean let's say 80% now no one waves. I wish you would come back. I feel like if we all waved at each other driving down the road world be a better place.

[Russell]

I must start by waving at least to one car a day. Yeah but do you wait so somebody said they wave to if it's the same car as them, they'll wave Good

[Dale Jr.]

enough reason I mean you do have to other tests I just feel like

[Russell]

not like is there a Tesla wave?

[TJ Majors]

There's not a Tesla club like the Jeep. Most people that have Teslas don't. Don't even look at each other so you don't really wave.

[Dale Jr.]

Jesus. Teslas are schnobs I guess test they

[TJ Majors]

don't even like recognize Are you just an anomaly? I did try that.

[Dale Jr.]

You're just one of the non snob Tesla owners.

[TJ Majors]

Well I probably had. I don't be seeing I probably had mine and near like kind of when

[Dale Jr.]

before I mean you did get yours first.

[TJ Majors]

I mean it wasn't. I was in the early days of it so when you saw when it was like damn, what's up? You know many out there now it's like now they're all over and they got the blinders on.

[Dale Jr.]

I just feel like if everybody waved more often at each other driving down the road, it would be good for all of us.

[Russell]

Do you ever flash your lights to let people know there's cops back there?

[TJ Majors]

Oh, yeah, I do that.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah.

[Russell]

Give a little double tap there.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, I. Flashlights to trucks if they want it or cars that are trying to blend.

[Dale Jr.]

I look around, though, to make sure there's not a cop around, because you're not supposed to do that.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah. You're not supposed to do that.

[Dale Jr.]

Oh, yeah.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah. That's a no. No.

[Dale Jr.]

Not sure. But it could be against the law, like, letting other people. I. There's a road 801. There's always state troopers sitting out there. And so, yeah, if I. If I were to drive by and see the. See the trooper, I'm. I'm going up the road a little bit, and I'll be like, hey, y', all, careful. Cover now. Slow down a little. Little bright light flicker.

[Russell]

Careful with this business park. They got cops everywhere looking for speeders.

[Dale Jr.]

And I got it. Rolling stops. I gotta shout out my. My friend Gary Barger just retired from North Carolina Highway State patrol.

[TJ Majors]

Nice.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah. Garrett used to go with me every weekend to Myrtle Beach Speedway to race late models. Like, he was part of my volunteer crew. Donnie Reeves is his uncle. Who. Donnie Reeves is one of my dad's best friends. Been on this show. Donny has. And so Garrett's related to Donnie, and that's how we met and we became. We've been friends since we were 16. And he was. He was kind of going to be one of those guys that kind of, like, worked on my crew, my team, my entire life, as I drove up through the ranks. Right.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah.

[Dale Jr.]

Like you. Me and you become friends, and you spotted my race car for most of my career, and so. But he decided one day, come up to me, he's like, I'm going to join the highway patrol. I'm going to go do that.

[Russell]

That.

[Dale Jr.]

I was like, all right. And he just retired. I watched. I watched him do this whole career. Yeah. Pretty neat.

[Russell]

So according to AI in the United States, federal courts have generally ruled that flashing your headlights to warn other drivers of police activities protected under the First Amendment as free speech.

[Dale Jr.]

Free speech.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah.

[Russell]

Here we go.

[Dale Jr.]

I can do it.

[Russell]

Free amendment.

[Dale Jr.]

Let's go. I know the troopers out there probably don't appreciate me alerting me the drivers.

[Russell]

Well, don't be hiding. Trying to.

[Dale Jr.]

I don't know how that's a Bad thing. I mean.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah.

[Dale Jr.]

I'm saying somebody. Yo, slow down. That's probably in everybody's best interest. Right. That they obey the law.

[Russell]

Right.

[TJ Majors]

But if somebody is being. They're going 100 mile an hour, you're not going to help them out. You're just trying to help out the casual driver. Yeah, but Garrett, like, I don't know if you remember this. Remember that time we were coming back from Virginia, Norfolk or whatever, when I ran that. That little. That little car up there? Remember that? We were going down 85, and that car, they were hanging out the window, swinging a bat around, and we called Garrett.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah.

[TJ Majors]

I don't know if you remember that or not. Yeah. And Garrett went and they tracked him down.

[Dale Jr.]

Oh, well, we saw some crazy.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, they were. It was like two, three o' clock in the morning, and they were. They were. We were on 85 south and they drove by us. We're in. We were in the Escalade.

[Dale Jr.]

Oh, Lord. And they were Escalade days.

[TJ Majors]

They were swinging a bat out the window. Like, I don't remember that.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah, I do remember. I found Garrett on the highway. And I. I'm following him. He's in his little Camaro Trooper car. And we're going. We're near dei and I'm following him down the road, and there's a car in front of him. And so I had somebody with me, and I was like, watch this. I was like, I know this trooper in front of us.

[TJ Majors]

You better hope.

[Dale Jr.]

And I was like, watch this. And we get down. We're going down this straightaway, and I pull out and pass Garrett and the car in front of me, and I was like, what? I bet the person driving the car was like, holy crap, that guy's great. Why did the. Yeah. What? What? What? Couldn't add it up.

[Russell]

Somebody brought up Briscoe. Could have used somebody flashing some lights at him. Yesterday, he got a speeding penalty. He got pulled over on the way.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah. As did Denny.

[Russell]

No, in real life. No. Briscoe got pulled over. Track.

[Dale Jr.]

Dang.

[Russell]

You didn't see him tweet about it?

[Dale Jr.]

No.

[Russell]

No, because everyone was like, oh, this was foreshadowing. Yeah. He got a speeding ticket on the way to the race.

[Dale Jr.]

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[Dale Jr.]

Place your bets, ladies and gentlemen. Place your bets. Hey, everybody. It's time for the Dirty Modo segment of the show, brought to you by fanduel. We got Russell here. Alex, everybody's here. We're heading to Darlington. The drivers have been talking about.

[Russell]

Hold on. Before we go to Darlington, I have one little gripe with Russ.

[Dale Jr.]

Oh, Oh.

[Russell]

I. I reached out and just said, chase Elliott, top 10 plus money for Vegas.

[Dale Jr.]

I like that one. Yeah.

[Russell]

Nah, he's not good there.

[TJ Majors]

Well, he only almost won.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah, he was fastest at the end. Should have beat Danny and brought the, you know, Denny bros to tears. But Russ, what the hell, was able to hang on there?

[Russell]

Speak for yourself.

[Dale Jr.]

We said he was going to finish seventh to 13th.

[Russell]

He finished second.

[TJ Majors]

Okay.

[Dale Jr.]

He got lucky. I don't know, man. Maybe we're seeing Chase Elliott turn the corner this year. I mean, he had some good runs last year. He's having a great year.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, I mean, I'd say he led

[Dale Jr.]

the point on the comeback. On Comeback trail drivers been talking about lots of tire fall off at Darlington. I'm, you know, we could all sit here and speculate on what might happen, but we'll have to kind of wait and see. None of us have been able to really predict what the tires can do at any of these racetracks, and we've seen all sorts of things happen. But there's less aero underneath the car, more horsepower. Those things absolutely should lend toward more fall off. The drivers are talking about some extreme numbers, like three, four seconds.

[TJ Majors]

That's what I'm hearing.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah. I mean, four seconds of fall off, you know what's going to happen?

[TJ Majors]

They're going to go slower.

[Dale Jr.]

Well, when, if we have green flag pit stops, you're going to see some guys run over some guys. You Know you're going to see that's a one lane racetrack. I mean, it's not very wide. And if you think back to like the 90s and the 2000s, the 80s, even guys have gotten themselves in wrecks being out there on old tires versus new tires. When there's that big of a difference between the closing rate, you just, you know, you come out there on your new tires, you feel awesome. And you don't expect the guy in front of you on old tires to lift as soon as he does and there's nowhere to go sometimes either in the back of that car or into the wall.

[TJ Majors]

Could be some misjudging.

[Dale Jr.]

Could be some misjudging going on. Russell, what are you hearing about tire wear, fall off and all that good stuff? I'm hearing the same thing. The same thing. Like, are we going to see it like the old Atlanta, though? Like, that's what I worry about. What you mean? I mean like where, where it's less entertaining, I would say, than a normal race. Don't bring us down. We're excited about fall off. We have more fall. We're excited about the downforce getting stripped away from the bottom of the race car. We're excited about horsepower and we're excited about tires that wear out.

[TJ Majors]

So what, what makes old Atlanta less exciting?

[Dale Jr.]

That's the funny thing, man. I love it wasn't as exciting as the new Atlanta. That's, well. Oh, my gosh. That's not a great comparison.

[TJ Majors]

No, it's not. I can't even do that. You made one track of plate. I mean, should they just make it so you don't have to lift around Martinsville?

[Dale Jr.]

I mean, I loved, I loved old Atlanta.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, I did too, because it was like a driver's track. Like it mattered.

[Dale Jr.]

Like way better, way better now. Well, it is better now, but I liked the old one as well. But I like the new. And both can be true.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah. In different forms. They're in their own regard.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah. Well, the, the lines are out. So who's the favorite? You got Denny Ham. Oh, my God.

[TJ Majors]

Plus 500.

[Dale Jr.]

Denny plus 500. That's actually pretty, pretty solid. Yeah. Kyle Larson plus 600. Byron Redick and Bell.

[Russell]

That's your top five. Do we think Larson can end this winless streak he's got going? Was it 29 races?

[Dale Jr.]

Really? That's a lot. Yeah, I mean, I think they were in good shape this weekend to get it done. Darlington's a, definitely a driver's track and certainly if there's more slipping and Sliding and, you know, the guys that are, you know, better on older tires, the guys that can kind of handle and finesse the car around there when it. When the tires are going away, he's. Larson's at the top of the list. Denny. Denny is going to be. That's an. That absolutely plays into Denny's style. And he's coming off a win a lot of momentum. Loves Darlington. He loves to win at racetracks where he feels like he matters.

[TJ Majors]

So the more fall off, the more competitive, I think Denny.

[Dale Jr.]

And we've seen them two guys battling into the final corner, running each other into the fence, racing as hard as they can for wins. I think we may get that very same thing again. Yeah, I'm on Denny this week, too. He's. He's the top of the board for me.

[Russell]

What about some other names rest on your model?

[Dale Jr.]

The only other ones that you didn't mention would be Briscoe. You know, he's won two of the last three there. He's always good there. He's also good at where the. The tires fall off as well. So I like him. Even though he's. He struggled this year, he's still on my list.

[TJ Majors]

Where do you run in those Bristol races that the tires fell off a bunch. Do you. Do you have. Do you know Briscoe? Yeah, because I don't. He doesn't strike me as being one of the guys that I see rise when this. When there's a ton of fall off.

[Dale Jr.]

But I'm going to pause on Briscoe for now. We saw last year it took them a while to sort of find their groove. Once they find it, they're. They're. They're rock solid. Seems like the off season wasn't as favorable to them. They've sort of, you know, back into some old habits and just have. Just having a hard time. Right. Putting races together. Even in the Xfinity race on Saturday, the O'Reilly race on Saturday. Really, really fast race car and just a lot of clunkiness right in how his race played out. But, you know, I think if there's. If they're off right now, it won't take them as long as it did last year to get back in the groove. But I'm a pause myself on Briscoe. Not that I don't think he can go out there and do it. Absolutely can. He's won races there in the O'Reilly series, what used to be the Xfinity series. People get mad if you don't, like. People want it called what it was called when it happened. Right. They don't like you to say, man, you remember that guy that won the 1983 O'Reilly Series championship? They don't like that.

[Russell]

I hate that when they're like, Connor Zoolage won 10 races in the O'Reilly series. Mike.

[TJ Majors]

No, he didn't.

[Russell]

Nope.

[Dale Jr.]

Well, so Briscoe was 13th in that race, T.J. okay, so who are some of the drivers we need to keep our eye on? Outside of the ones that you've mentioned, obviously. Denny Larson. You talked about Redick. I'm a big Bubba Wallace fan this weekend. He's running great this year. Has been top 10 in five of the last seven at Darlington. His worst finish this year is 11th. The other one that, that is going to surprise you, like when you look at season results is Erik Jones, two time Darlington winner. He was third there, I think last fall. Not a surprise. This is, this is his track. Yeah. So he's plus 4,500 to win and if he's won twice here in the

[TJ Majors]

next gen, that that's an auto place for a bet.

[Dale Jr.]

It's just a little bit.

[TJ Majors]

Didn't John Hunter qualify really good here?

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah, he ran well here last year. I think he was four, I believe.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, I think this is the best race of the year.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah.

[TJ Majors]

All right.

[Dale Jr.]

What about Ty Gibbs?

[TJ Majors]

I think he's good here too. But I just wonder, you know, this fall off, if there's like. I do think that adds into the equation of some of these guys that may have some experience and some more with the old car, like busher. I think a busher. You know, every time we. What about Kyle Busch? Man, I just, there's.

[Dale Jr.]

They're struggling.

[TJ Majors]

I know, man. It's not even just his speed. It's not just that he's not even

[Dale Jr.]

the best RCR car this weekend.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah. It's just.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah, but do you think that fall off helps him this week? I think that this style of racetrack, all of those things absolutely play into Kyle Bush's hands. But I'm just, I'm hesitant because new crew chief I haven't seen. Yeah, I haven't seen that start to turn the corner just yet. So, you know, again, you know, you're naming guys that absolutely could go out there and run top 10. That could happen. But from what I've seen in the first couple of weeks, you know, looking at just basically Phoenix in this past weekend at Vegas, I'm, I'm holding on to my money there.

[Russell]

Tj, I got a question for you on A track. We have all this tire fall off for you as a spotter. Are you having to do more work looking at lap times and stuff? What's it like for you with a track like this?

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, probably. You definitely. Probably have a number you look for and you don't. Like at Bristol, we had a number when the tires were falling off, we had a number we wanted to run every lap. And if we knew if we went much faster than that, we might. We're. We're going to hurt tires pretty bad.

[Dale Jr.]

So there's also a number that you want to, you know, once you dip below, you're coming to pit road, are you thinking about, you know, is there a pace where you're like, all right, we can't afford to stay out on the racetrack. We're bleeding too much time.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, I think it's a little bit everything you don't know, but some of them guys are going to come so early that, you know, I think this is going to open up to strategies like to stop. I mean, probably what, at least easily two stopping. A lot of them, right?

[Dale Jr.]

Yep.

[TJ Majors]

So Denny and.

[Dale Jr.]

Denny and them boys, they like to run long.

[TJ Majors]

Yeah, there's a lot of guys.

[Dale Jr.]

That's a good strategy this weekend.

[TJ Majors]

And with if there's a handful of cautions, though, I mean, I honestly feel like there could be a lot of cautions and I think we could run out of time. That's what I'm saying. I feel like maybe going long and a first. First segment or two, you might lose a few spots on track.

[Dale Jr.]

Sounds like must see tv, right? Sounds like it's just going to be awesome. Russell. I agree. I'm now I'm nervous about my tire allotment. You've got me nervous. I just think you're going to have to manage them differently. I was excited about tire fall off, excited about horsepower, excited about less downforce, anxious about tire allotment. This sounds like a great recipe for awesome race.

[TJ Majors]

The tire allotment can bite you. Yeah, like, pretty bad.

[Dale Jr.]

Especially if there's like back to back yellows. You're like, I don't. I don't. I got, you know, four, three, three, four laps on them. I can't come down pit road.

[TJ Majors]

I don't know if you, like, you know the rule on this too, but, like, if you have a say, a guy cuts tire in practice, doesn't get to qualify. He is down that set of scuffs that he would have qualified on. So you're actually down like another set because you don't make a lap in qualifying, you don't get nothing for it. So.

[Dale Jr.]

Interesting.

[TJ Majors]

Which could happen as well if some guys are having problems in practice or somebody knocks the wall down a little bit or.

[Russell]

Can you buy tires,

[Dale Jr.]

Rick? Where?

[Russell]

Line one.

[Dale Jr.]

You can't.

[TJ Majors]

You can't get any more than they allotted. They used to be a. I mean, back in the day, you know, it was. Used to as soon as somebody was out, you bought their tires and, yeah, you had more than you needed, but sometimes, yeah, but you had them.

[Dale Jr.]

It's going to be interesting, man. I'm. I, you know, anything else we need to cover as far as maybe who might slip in there for a top 10? Give me about two or three names. Maybe you've already mentioned one or two. You know, would you do. What's. What's the odds for, you know, Eric Jones on top 10? They're not out right now, but I would.

[TJ Majors]

Based off his win odds, I would definitely place that as soon as it comes out.

[Dale Jr.]

All right, so Eric Jones and who else?

[TJ Majors]

I like Ryan Priest. He's right back there with Jones. And odds actually has worse win odds than Eric Jones.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah. What do you think, Russell Priest?

[TJ Majors]

I don't.

[Dale Jr.]

I don't mind Priest. He's running way better than. Than he ever has this year. All. Actually, all those RFK cars are running really well. And they're running all together. Like, all the cars are running well together. Russell, you like college basketball? I do, yeah. Who you got winning it all this year?

[Russell]

Duke.

[Dale Jr.]

Duke? Yep. I'm on the Duke train. Are you? Well, a lot of great games in the first round. A lot of opportunity to do what I love to do, parlay all the heavy favorites, which I have done. I am loaded. It's a very. It's a very favorite. Loaded. First couple rounds last year, dude, there were hardly any, if at all, any upsets. I don't.

[TJ Majors]

I think it would be very similar.

[Dale Jr.]

This I did, dude. I parlayed anything that was like. Plus anything that was like a spread of eight and a half points. Like, I parlayed the favorites all together, and I never. It did not fail me last year. It didn't fail me.

[Russell]

It was good to us.

[Dale Jr.]

Yeah, it was good to us. So I'm going back, same method this year. And I'm loaded. Ready. I like those kind of bits because I watch. It's one bet for. And I'm gonna watch a whole day's worth of basketball, right? And I'm, like, pulling for every box to get checked, and that's fun. For me. That's how I like to do it.

[Russell]

I'm gonna do some research and give you some player props if you're having

[TJ Majors]

fun, it's all that matters.

[Dale Jr.]

That's right, tj. Thank you for. Thank you for that, tj.

[TJ Majors]

If you're winning, it's just a bonus.

[Dale Jr.]

When TJ speaks is rare, but when he speaks, it's knowledge, man.

[TJ Majors]

Put it on a. Tuck it in.

[Dale Jr.]

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[TJ Majors]

See ya.

[Dale Jr.]

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[Russell]

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[Dale Jr.]

May he scurry in peace. Hey, sorry about your pet, but I just wire stuff.

[Russell]

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[Dale Jr.]

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