The Best of The Dan Patrick Show

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Best Of (June 8, 2026)

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This episode centers on the latest drama in the NBA and Stanley Cup Finals, with spirited debates about championship pressure, the transformation of star athletes in defining moments, and the historical context of both current Stanley Cup and NBA showdowns. Dan and his accomplished guests, including Reggie Miller and Ray Ferraro, bring humor, debate, and unique insights to high-stakes games and league-wide trends.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Weekend Sports Recap & Poll Questions

• The crew highlights the action-packed sports weekend: NBA Finals, Stanley Cup Final, Belmont Stakes, US Women's Open in golf, Memorial Tournament, and College World Series baseball. (04:04)
• Reggie Miller claims, “Playoff hockey, Stanley Cup Final hockey, it’s the best playoffs that we have. Always delivers.” (04:22)
• There’s banter about the unpredictability and universal appeal of watching Stanley Cup playoff hockey, even for casual fans.

Timestamps:

• 04:04 – Poll: What was the best event of the weekend?
• 05:16 – Comparison of horse racing’s lost prominence to golf’s selective course participation.

2. NBA Finals: Pressure, Fan Culture, and Ticket Craze

Who has more pressure – Knicks or Spurs?

• Dan raises the question of which team faces greater pressure, noting the Spurs were considered a year ahead of schedule but still expected to be formidable, while the Knicks are in a must-win scenario to keep momentum. (03:00, 13:25)
• Reggie and the crew discuss how historic moments at Madison Square Garden—like Michael Jordan’s “double nickel”—add extra gravitas to standout Finals performances. (13:41)
• Knicks ticket prices and logistics become a topic as President Trump’s attendance increases security and drives up demand. (10:17)
• Humorous anecdote as Todd sings "New York State of Mind" to unamused coworkers, capturing the unique studio energy. (11:46)

Memorable Quotes:

• "[At Madison Square Garden] If you have a chance to go to the Garden, you're going to want to be there." – Reggie Miller (10:00)
• “If you’re a fan going to the game tonight, it’s like going to JFK airport… President Trump is going to be there.” – Dan Patrick (10:26)

Timestamps:

• 03:00 – Initial NBA pressure/preview
• 10:17 – MSG ticket price drama and security measures
• 13:25 – Garden history and pressure

3. College World Series & Golf Banter

• The hosts poke fun at the omnipresence of College World Series games, likening it to flipping on TV and finding reruns of CSI, and discuss personal experiences with tough golf courses. (05:16–09:12)
• Courses like Shinnecock and Bethpage Black’s difficulty are highlighted, as is their strict handicap requirements.
• Side conversation about how public some legendary courses are, but how miserable they can be for average players.

Timestamps:

• 05:16 – College Baseball and its TV omnipresence
• 07:11 – Golf course war stories and course reputation

4. Hockey Deep Dive: Interview with Ray Ferraro

Stanley Cup Final: “Lunacy” and Analysis

• Ray Ferraro, longtime NHL analyst and player, describes the latest Stanley Cup Final game as “lunacy,” sharing that he’s never seen anything quite like it in 40 years around the sport. (21:22)
• Discussion covers the centrality of goalies to playoff narratives, coaching strategies, and wild swings in momentum. (22:26)
• On the Golden Knights’ resurgence and Carolina’s choices, Ray shares admiration for the unpredictability and skill on display.

On Goalies, Rule Changes, and Evolution

• The panel wonders if hockey will ever introduce a three-point line; Ferraro says there’s plenty of scoring already and jokes the idea wouldn’t translate given the game’s speed. (24:35)
• Later, Ferraro expounds on the dramatic improvement in player speed and how new rules have shifted the balance to favor skill and more goal scoring. (26:02)

Memorable Quotes:

• “[That game] had no form or shape to any of it… Sports are best unpredictable.” – Ray Ferraro (21:22)
• “I’ve never seen a Stanley Cup game like this.” – Ray Ferraro (21:22)
• "You can be almost an accidental tourist. You're just in the right spot at the right time." – Ray Ferraro on winning a Cup vs. Hall of Fame (20:00)
• "[Mario Lemieux] was singularly the most talented player ever to play." – Ray Ferraro (30:01)

Timestamps:

• 20:00 – Ray Ferraro: Cup vs. Hall of Fame tradeoff
• 21:22 – Recap of wild Stanley Cup Final Game 3
• 22:26 – Goalie discussions and coach strategy
• 24:35 – Unlikely of a three-point line in hockey
• 26:02 – Rule changes and skill evolution
• 28:49 – Greatest single-game performance witnessed (Mario Lemieux)

5. Reggie Miller Interview: Rings, Legacy and Pressure

Hall of Fame vs. Title Debate

• Dan and Reggie debate whether you'd rather be a Hall of Famer without a title or win a ring as a role player, with Reggie firmly picking his own career over swapping with a less-accomplished star who has a championship. (35:39)
• “I’m keeping my career, okay? I love my career.” – Reggie Miller (35:39)

Finals Regrets and NBA History

• Reggie would rather have beaten Michael Jordan’s Bulls in a conference finals than forced a longer series against the Shaq-Kobe Lakers, seeing the thrill of toppling an all-time great as more meaningful.
• They revisit the current Finals, noting the Knicks’ home pressure and the Spurs’ surprising loss of form.

Modern Knicks: Historically Great?

• Statistical dominance and resiliency in the postseason are discussed. Dan and Reggie argue that New York deserves mention among the historic playoff steamrollers should they complete the sweep. (41:11–42:48)
• "If they win two more games in a row and win 15 in a row... you gotta have a hard conversation on how this run... it's impressive what the Knicks have done." – Dan Patrick (42:48)

Clutch Performers & Style Talk

• Reggie unpacks why Jalen Brunson, despite shooting struggles, remains the ultimate closer and draws (careful) MJ and Kobe comparisons in late-game situations. (46:01)
• Discussion of the psychological impact when a star stops shooting, emphasizing leadership through persistence. (47:33)

Timestamps:

• 35:39 – Hall of Fame vs. Title
• 37:34 – NBA Finals pressure, team psychology
• 41:11–42:48 – The historical context of the Knicks’ run
• 46:01 – Jalen Brunson’s clutch gene

6. Fun Segments: "All 6'2 and Under" NBA Team

• Dan and Reggie pick their all-time NBA team of guards 6’2” and under, debating between Isaiah Thomas, Allen Iverson, John Stockton, and others. They clarify where players like Tony Parker, Steph Curry, and Chris Paul fit.
• “If you’re starting your team… you gotta take Steph.” – Dan and Reggie agree (51:04–52:05)

Timestamps:

• 48:41 – All-time 6’2” and under guards team
• 51:04 – Steph Curry discussion

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Notable Quotes & Moments (With Timestamps)

• "Playoff hockey, Stanley Cup Final hockey, it’s the best playoffs that we have. Always delivers." – Reggie Miller (04:22)
• "I’ve never seen a Stanley Cup game like this... sports are best unpredictable." – Ray Ferraro (21:22)
• “I’m keeping my career, okay? I love my career.” – Reggie Miller (35:39)
• “If they win two more games in a row and win 15 in a row... you gotta have a hard conversation on how this run... it's impressive what the Knicks have done.” – Dan Patrick (42:48)
• "[Jalen Brunson] is the ultimate closer. Anytime the game is close... I will always trust in Brunson." – Reggie Miller (44:07)

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Segment Guide (Selected Timestamps)

• 04:04 – Sports weekend highlights and poll
• 10:17 – MSG playoff ticket scramble
• 13:41 – Garden’s historical gravity
• 20:00 – Ray Ferraro: Cup vs. Hall of Fame
• 21:22 – "Lunacy": Wild Stanley Cup game
• 24:35 – Three-point line in hockey?
• 35:39 – Reggie on rings vs. legacy
• 42:48 – Are these Knicks an all-time playoff team?
• 46:01 – Brunson, clutch play, and MJ/Kobe analogies
• 48:41 – All-time under-6’2” NBA guards
• 51:04 – Would you draft Curry or Isaiah?

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Tone & Style

• The episode is informal and irreverent, with Dan’s signature balance of deep sports knowledge and lighthearted banter.
• The conversation jumps easily between sports and cultural references (CSI, cruise ship mishaps, Billy Joel songs in the office), keeping the pace lively and inclusive.

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Useful For

• Fans wanting a comprehensive, insightful, and entertaining recap of the weekend’s top sports stories.
• Listeners interested in the psychology of star athletes and teams under pressure.
• Those enjoying historical context, player debates, and behind-the-scenes banter with sports luminaries like Reggie Miller and Ray Ferraro.

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Transcript

[Dan Patrick]

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[Reggie Miller]

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Hockey wild. Wild three games so far. Double overtime, thriller in the game three. We'll talk to Ray Ferraro from the mothership he's calling the Stanley Cup Final. He'll join us. Reggie Miller will stop by as well. And I started to wonder about this. Maybe it's not fair. But I did wonder about this. Who has more pressure on them tonight, the Knicks or the Spurs? Because as we've talked about when the playoffs started, when the finals started, the Spurs, I thought were a year early, but people still thought they could win this series. The Knicks have to win this game tonight, it feels like, because if you give the Spurs a chance and they all of a sudden start to figure something out, or you put a little bit of doubt in the Knicks, their fans, and then maybe you could have a series here. But I think all indications are this is a question of not who is going to win, but how many games, but two and a half points. The spurs could have easily won game three. In fact, they gave, gave game three away. But give credit to the Knicks, they did what they were supposed to do. So game two, they had a chance to win that. Now you have game three coming up tonight. Stat of the DAY is always brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show. And this first hour brought to you by Z Kliner, the revolutionary recliner designed by Flex Steel, engineered with restful sleep in mind, making it an ideal bed alternative. A healthy life starts with a healthy night's sleep. Visit z kliner.com Dan Patrick to find Z Kleiner at a store near you. Dylan, what kind of poll question do you have for me?

[Dylan]

Well, Dan, it was a pretty action packed weekend. So what was, what would you say was the best event over the weekend? We've got, obviously a great NBA Finals game, a great Stanley Cup Final game. We had the Belmont Stakes at Saratoga, the women's U.S. open, golf, the Memorial Tournament. Anything else?

[Reggie Miller]

I would say the hockey. Yeah, yeah. It never fails. You don't have to have a team, you don't even have to know about the sport. But when you watch hockey, playoff hockey, Stanley Cup Final hockey, it's the best playoffs that we have, always delivers. And that was a wild game. You know, Golden Knights up 4 0. And then the Hurricanes come back and all of a sudden, you know, you're looking for any kind of opening fluke goal and you got that double overtime. And my Vegas golden nights up two games to one. But we'll talk to Ray Ferraro. There was a lot going on. You know, I found myself watching way too much College World Series baseball. And I'm going, it's 11 in the morning and I'm watching Mississippi State against Georgia. Or was it Texas?

[Ray Ferraro]

Georgia.

[Reggie Miller]

Okay. And then Texas or Georgia came back, Texas beat Oregon. I mean, I'm watching, and I'm going, this is like, you know, when you turn on the TV and you can find csi, like, it's on all the time. I could find, you know, College World Series, baseball, the entire day night. They might be playing right now a game. I have no idea. But it just felt like there was a whole lot of that. The Golf at Riviera, Nelly Corda wins and Dramatic fashion. That was fun. Belmont, It's not appointment viewing. Even though you have a horse that wins two of the three legs of the Triple Crown. We talked about incentivizing. They did this before. Years ago. It was like $5 million if you won the Triple Crown. It just feels like there's a specialization in horse racing. It's like, you know, golfers. There's certain courses, golfers don't want to play. It doesn't suit their game. And you've got, hey, you're good in the Derby. And if you win the Derby, you got a better chance of winning the Belmont than you do the Preakness. But it used to be appointment viewing. If you're winning, you know, the first two legs and of course, a Triple Crown, it just probably snuck up on some people. It's like, what all the Belmont race? Yes. Dylan.

[Dylan]

Yeah, I think it's hard for people to understand not like opting to not run one of the races because you'd be like, all right, well, like, a golfer is not going to take off the US Open because it's at Shinnecock and he doesn't play well. Well there. I think it's just sort of. It's kind of the only sport where it's set up to even be able to do that. But like you said, it's just the. That length that the Preakness is golden Tempo would not have won either the Belmont or the Derby had the track been the mile and 3:16 or.

[Reggie Miller]

Yeah. And we talked about this, that the Preakness is shorter track, and that doesn't suit this horse, that strength. And Belmont Wood and Kentucky Derby would. But, yeah, there was a lot going on this weekend and, you know, be a busy week coming up. You got the US Open at Shinnecock. One of the first events I ever covered in New York was at Shinnecock, and I think Raymond Floyd won it that year. But I remember that you would cover golf now that to get out to Shinnecock on Long island, it's like one road in and one road out. And I thought, oh, my goodness, you know, and the course looks impossible. I'd Never played it. I've played a couple of courses out there. I've not played Shinnecock, probably because it didn't look like fun. And I'm like, why do I want to go, you know, torture myself when I'm not going to play well? And. And it's not even, like, scenic from the standpoint of if I get roughed up at Pebble Beach, I'm fine. You know, you get roughed up at some of these other, like, what. What was it? Piners number two. I mean, historical course. I hated it. I. I thought it was boring, and it beat me up. Now, if I played better, I'd probably say, you know, that Pioneer is number two. Got some pretty spectacular trees around it. Or those greens, they, you know, they're kind of shaped like a turtle. Yes. Yes. Dylan.

[Dylan]

Well, it's funny, too, because Beth Page Black, like, the Beth Page complex is on Long island, and it's. It is public. You can play it. So people will camp out in their car the night before to get a tea time to just get absolutely destroyed by.

[Reggie Miller]

Oh, yeah, there's certain. I think they have a handicap minimum that you have to be good enough with your handicap to be able to play Beth Page Black. It's that challenging. Now, I've only walked it, and I never played it, but sometimes you can walk a course and you go, this would not be any fun. Yes. Dill.

[Dylan]

Yeah, they have a sign, like, by the first tee box, like, it's a double black diamond at a ski resort where it's like, please, Only for experienced golfers only.

[Reggie Miller]

Well, at St. Andrews, I think you have to be a 15 handicap or better because they want you to. They're trying to churn out rounds at St. Andrews, so they don't want guys hacking like, you know, we do when we go out and play, especially you and Mario and me. Yeah.

[Ray Ferraro]

Paulie, if you're a sports fan in

[Dan Patrick]

the New York City area, you mean

[Ray Ferraro]

you might as well take this week off from work so you could focus on the basketball and get ready for the golf.

[Dan Patrick]

This is.

[Ray Ferraro]

This could be expensive week.

[Reggie Miller]

What kind of poll question do we have there, Dylan? You know, the ticket prices, because now all of a sudden, you're looking at games six and seven, and are we going to get to game six and seven? But even five. But three and four, I would imagine for those ticket prices will kind of hold serve because you want to be in the building if the Knicks, when the Knicks win the title, and if you have a chance to go to the Garden you're going to want to be there. Yeah.

[Ray Ferraro]

Paul, when we left on Friday, the get in price for game three at MSG was 7, $500 this morning you can get in for $4,700.

[Reggie Miller]

Let's go. I think we have to leave now. Don't we have to get there three hours before? You know, this is if, if you're a fan going to the game tonight, it's like going to JFK airport. Yeah. And you're going on an international flight. You have to get there three hours before because President Trump is going to be there. So they're making everybody arrive three hours before. Now, will they open the concession stands three hours before? Because I wonder about that.

[Dylan]

Yes, Dylan, that's sort of the age old dilemma. Like when something goes wrong, do you let the people drink to appease them or does that cause more problems like that? Remember that cruise that ran out of power they made the documentary about? They called it the poop cruise.

[Reggie Miller]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

They eventually they were like, all right, these people are animals. Let's open the bar because they won't leave us alone. And it didn't work out.

[Reggie Miller]

Yeah, yeah. I would think open bar or bars being open usually doesn't go well. Yeah. Now it's called the poop cruise.

[Ray Ferraro]

After, not before. Because I wouldn't have signed up for that cruise.

[Dylan]

I think.

[Ray Ferraro]

Yeah.

[Dylan]

If you signed up for the poop cruise. Yeah. What you deserve.

[Ray Ferraro]

Yeah.

[Reggie Miller]

You sign up for it. Poop. There it is. Todd's been singing New York State of Mind. What else you been singing today? Go New York, go New York, go. We are New York, but with the

[Dan Patrick]

New York State of Mind Billy Joel shirt. That's right in my wheelhouse. I had a, a couple of bars

[Reggie Miller]

that some folks like to get away. Any other folk I, I like to get. Todd's been going from room to room this morning looking for an audience and I, I felt bad for you because I know you're fired up here and couldn't find anybody.

[Ray Ferraro]

Turned their back on me, pretended to

[Dan Patrick]

be busy typing something or they're all of a sudden they're taking a phone call.

[Reggie Miller]

He was going, I was watching this because I knew I could hear him. And he'd go room to room and, and nobody was acknowledging him. And there's guys who are working on our podcast room. They're working. He's back there singing to Jay and Oscar and they're not acknowledging him.

[Ray Ferraro]

I got progressively louder.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm taking a Greyhound on the Hudson River.

[Reggie Miller]

They didn't want any and they can't leave because they're working. So Todd has a captive audience, and those poor guys had to listen to you while they're back there building things.

[Ray Ferraro]

They dropped a little tennis kind of umpire.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you.

[Ray Ferraro]

I'm in a new.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you.

[Reggie Miller]

Todd has been also auditioning to be a chair umpire.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, they used to just say, quiet,

[Ray Ferraro]

please, and now they just.

[Dan Patrick]

Now it's like, thank you.

[Reggie Miller]

Come on.

[Ray Ferraro]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Reggie Miller]

Yes, Dylan.

[Dylan]

Todd does know when you're trapped, though. He's like a Komodo dragon. He'll just sort of see you pinned into the corner of the room. You're like, no in or out.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Reggie Miller]

Yes, boy.

[Ray Ferraro]

Yeah. One of those guys in back may

[Dan Patrick]

fall off a ladder.

[Reggie Miller]

Like, leave early just to get out of here.

[Dylan]

Jay sings, though, too, back there. I don't know if you've heard our sweet, angelic Jay working in the back there. You'll just hear, like, party like a rock star from the new podcast room.

[Reggie Miller]

Any other poll questions that we're looking at? Did you put. Are you thinking about who has more pressure, spurs or Knicks? Is that a legitimate question?

[Dylan]

I think so, because I feel like no matter which team you're talking about, the pressure of the Garden is always talked about, and that can go for the Knicks or against them, I think.

[Reggie Miller]

And this is one of those moments where Wemby can have that singular, wow, he did that in the NBA Finals in game three. And when you think about all the great moments that Garden has had throughout, you know, basketball history, even recent basketball history, you know, Jordan comes back, has the double nickel you've had, Steph Curry's had a night there, LeBron Patrick, you. And, you know, they've all had these standalone, singular great games that if you. It happens in the Garden, it seems to resonate a little bit more. But this is, you know, Wemby's got to be able. Now, Carl Anthony Towns, to me, is the MVP right now because I expected Brunson to be great. Now, he hasn't been great, but he's still been very good, and he's been clutch. Carl Anthony Towns was a guy that I'd always go, okay, greatest shooting big man of all time. Now he's playing like a great basketball player, and he's sort of playing like Draymond Green with Golden State, but with a better shot, a jump shot, and he's played a point center, and he's done it extremely well. It's almost like he's taking a little bit of Draymond Green and he's Also taking a little bit of the the Joker. But Mike Brown was on Golden State's roster as an assistant coach, so maybe he is looking and trying to channel that into Karl Anthony Towns as a point center. And Carl Anthony Towns to me has been the MVP so far. Yes, Marvin.

[Dan Patrick]

And if you're the Thunder coaching staff, hey, Chad, this is how you play against Wemby because he's been attacking him the entire time and not playing timid.

[Reggie Miller]

Well, you also have these moments that I was talking about. If you run down the list where Michael's double nickel, Steph had 54, Kobe had 61, Bernard King had 60 on a Christmas Day game in the Garden, it seems to be magnified. This is Wemby's moment. You may not win the series, but now you have to kind of claim, reclaim. Hey, I can be the best player in the game. And look, was I ahead of the curve in, you know, anointing him? Yes, yes. Because I think he has been outplayed. But he's 22. He's going against the guy who's eight years older. And Carl Anthony Towns is playing like he's eight years older. The moment seems like it's slipping away from Wemby. It seems too big at times for him. You got to hit that jump shot. That's not a difficult jump shot. And they let him shoot it. Got to hit it. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington

[Dan Patrick]

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[Reggie Miller]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Ray Ferraro]

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[Ray Ferraro]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Reggie Miller]

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[Reggie Miller]

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[Ray Ferraro]

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[Reggie Miller]

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[Reggie Miller]

Ray Ferraro, ESPN NHL analyst. Played 18 years in the league. You can catch him tomorrow night. Eight Eastern Stanley cup game four Hurricanes and Golden Knights on abc. Let me start there, Ray. You could be a Hall of Famer, or you could win one Stanley Cup.

[Ray Ferraro]

Can I trade three of my years? I'm not able to do that. That might be an easy one.

[Reggie Miller]

12 years, you're an All Star. You're a Hall of Famer, or you're just a good player on a great team. One year

[Ray Ferraro]

I picked the hall of Fame career, I think, and I never won. I got to the Eastern Conference final once. And every year that I get to do this final, which is just so Awesome. I look at these guys and complete envy the guys that win it. Doesn't it look like the best, like, just to you? You know, you've smashed your. Your body for 10 months and. And you're the best. I. I don't know. But to. To be a. I. I think I was a good player. I. I am the example, actually, of the other one. Like, I played 18 years, I was good and never got to be in the right place at the right time. And I think winning is. Sometimes you can be almost an accidental tourist. Right? You're. You're just in the right spot at the right time.

[Reggie Miller]

If I didn't watch Saturday night's game, how would you sum it up?

[Ray Ferraro]

Lunacy. Like, I've been so. I was thinking about this. So I broke into the NHL 1984, and I played 18 years. I've been doing this since I retired in 02. So this is 20, 23, 24 years. I've never seen a Stanley cup game like this. And sometimes we get into that recency stuff. The only one I can come close to is the Chicago Philly game. That was 6, 5. And the goalies were so bad. There were goals going in all over the place. It just was a wild game. This was. This had no. There was no form or shape to any of it. It was awesome. Like, sports are best unpredictable. And when it's four, nothing. I actually said in the middle of the third period, really quite proud of this comment because it turned out so well. I said, carolina, Caroline, I can't wait for this game to be over. They're looking forward to game four. And then all of a sudden they scored four goals. And I was like.

[Reggie Miller]

Because I just didn't see it.

[Ray Ferraro]

I, like, I couldn't. There's no way this could happen. And it did.

[Reggie Miller]

Why is it that we single out a goalie if he's having an unbelievable series? Like, we don't talk necessarily about a player the way we do a goalie. Now, I know the goalie is the last line of defense, but, like, there have to be offensive or defensive players who get better in those bigger moments. But we tend to focus on the goalie is standing on his head. Why is that?

[Ray Ferraro]

Because while he has such an outsized importance to, you know, To. To his team, it's like a, you know, it's a starting pitcher. Well, maybe not so much anymore, but it's starting a starting pitcher that dominates the series or, you know, if. If Wembayama all of a sudden takes over a game, it's Him. Like there's, there's probably a bunch of reasons why a team plays well or plays poorly, but the first thing always becomes the focus of the goalie. Now I thought Rod Brindemore, Carolina's coach, he pulled Freddie Andersen because he was looking to game four. He was. Game three was gone. It was. There's no reason to leave him back out there except the goalie put in. Brandon Bussey had a great third period. They get the overtime somehow and now he's got a real decision. But the guy at the other end, Carter Hart, he's really been no better in the series. Like there's been way more goals than I would have suspected. And I don't know if the goalies have been bad or average or. But you know, as for a shot here or there, Carolina's up to one. I, I didn't like one goal in that fourth game or third game. I still flip flop. I got another day to figure it out. And I wonder what Carolina's thinking. Like would they go to Bussey in game four or are they going to go back to Anderson? I bet it's a torturous choice really

[Reggie Miller]

talking to Ray Ferraro. He spent 18 years in the NHL. He would gladly take a Hall of Fame career over winning a Stanley cup. Eight Eastern tomorrow night. Hurricanes and the Golden Knights. Exclusively on abc. Has the NHL ever toyed with a three point line like we have in the NBA?

[Ray Ferraro]

No, it's just. I don't even know as I'm picturing it. I'm. I don't see why they would change it. The. I don't know how they would make it work. Could you imagine like in a sport that moves, it's this fast. That is the puck on outside the line? Is it on the line? Is it like even with all the great cameras they have now, I, they. There's no, no reason I don't think. And here's the other thing, Dan. The games have been 544354. I mean we're getting plenty of offense in the 90s. I wish they would have done something else because it was, it was boring. This is, this is great stuff.

[Reggie Miller]

Well, you can blame the Devils for that.

[Ray Ferraro]

They smothered the game. They were, they were no fun to play against. We. Our captain in, in New York was Pat Flatley. Really funny guy. And he. We're playing the Devils one night and they've just. We've got like 10 shots and he goes, look at them. None of them are sweating. They're not even trying and they just had us. We were smothered. We couldn't do anything like. This stinks, man. It was brutal.

[Reggie Miller]

Well, that's what I wonder that all of the leagues, we're trying to get more scoring. They want more scoring. And I. I didn't. And you're right about the goals being scored. I don't know if it's style now or what they will allow you to do or not do. That maybe is bringing about. Maybe it's bad goal 10. I don't know.

[Ray Ferraro]

It's skill without question. You know what I'm. When they. They changed the rules about 15 years ago to really promote skill, I guess, and make it harder to defend, the players have gotten progressively faster and stronger and more skilled than they've ever been. I didn't think, like, I thought the speed was going to create more offense always. But really it also helps defense. Like, speed is. Speed is a killer for offense. Right. You just don't have time to do anything. But the guys today that they play at a. A level that I think it's probably the same in most sports, but, like, it's not been achieved before. And I look at what some of these guys can do, we just. We just couldn't do it. And. And I think the offense follows with it. There's more goals now than there's ever been.

[Reggie Miller]

Could you see. I don't know who's the biggest goalie you ever faced, but if I put Penny Sewell, who's an offensive lineman for the Lions, but with. With skill. Yeah, but you put somebody who is huge, they're wide. How to. I mean, can you see a scenario where. And I don't know if somebody's tried to get a bigger goalie like Aaron Donald. If I put him in goal, you

[Ray Ferraro]

think you'd be all right?

[Dan Patrick]

Right.

[Ray Ferraro]

He's got to stand there. But I. It doesn't quite work that way. There seems to be holes everywhere. Like, so when I played, I bet you the average guy was like, at the start of my career, he was not 6ft.

[Reggie Miller]

Well, like Darren Pang is 5, 4.

[Ray Ferraro]

He will tell you too. Somehow he won 27 games, and that's his number. I know because he's told me 4,000

[Reggie Miller]

times, his head doesn't reach the crossbar.

[Ray Ferraro]

You've seen pictures, right?

[Reggie Miller]

Yeah.

[Ray Ferraro]

So Hanger. At one time he wore. He switched his goalie equipment. Well, the guy that used to play for Tampa, Ben bishop, who was 6 foot 7.

[Reggie Miller]

Yeah.

[Ray Ferraro]

Bishop put on Panger's gear. It looked like it. You know, it looked like, children's stuff. And Payer, of course, looked hilarious. And the other stuff, the goalies now are. They're 6, 5, 6, 6. They're 235 pounds, like Freddy Anderson's 240 pounds. Like these guys are. It might not look like it, but they're huge. And I'll tell you, when you skate down the ice and you look up at the net, there's. There's no room. There's nowhere to go, except the puck's pretty small and it bounces around pretty good. And fortunately, they can't stop everything.

[Reggie Miller]

What's the greatest performance? Like, the greatest player that you're on the ice with for one game that you witness something?

[Ray Ferraro]

Oh, in one game. I always think Alex Kovalev was the most talented player I ever played with with the Rangers. Brian Leach played a game and made that. When I was with the short time with the Rangers, he made a couple of plays that in this game, one of them I know because I was on the other end of it and I just shot it in the empty net. I could not believe that he was able to do, like, physically be able to do in a. In an individual game, though, the best was. Mario Lemieux was just. Just remarkable. He scored against us one time, four times in a game, and it was like, you know, it was like we were his. We were the Washington Generals that night. Like, it was amazing.

[Reggie Miller]

I find him underrated, and it's hard to say that, though. I. I just. I know he, you know, he got sick, but, man, you could make a case. He's. I love Gretz and Messier and, you know, run down the list, but Mario Lemieux, I think could have turned out to be the greatest player of all time.

[Ray Ferraro]

I. I think if people built a Mount Rushmore and you could even spread. Spread it out, three or four players if you wanted, but I think they would get to Lemieux later in the list than they should. Yeah, he was singularly the most talented player ever to play. And part of it was that he was 6 foot 5. And I mean, what Gretz did with, like, his numbers are incomparable, and we marvel at everything that he did. But him, Bobby Orr, Mario Lemieux, I mean, they were. They changed the game, they changed it forever. And then you get into the new guys and, you know, you start to get into McDavid and that. But, man, Mario was amazing.

[Reggie Miller]

How's this play out for my Vegas Golden Knights?

[Ray Ferraro]

I picked Carolina in seven before the series. I thought it was. I was worried Actually that it was going to be a bunch of low scoring, boring 3, 2, 2, 1 games and clearly that's not been the case. Goal has all of a sudden, as we get back to it, become a real question for Carolina. But if there is, I'm still going to take Carolina and seven, even though I don't feel very confident about it. If there's ever been a series that's been a coin flip, this is. Seriously, this is it. I mean, there is, there is zero way to predict what's going to happen tomorrow night. Some series. Now by game three, don't you think you kind of got a feel? You're like, yeah, it's going to be close, but this team's better. I don't have that right now. It's been, it's been really great, really great fun to do.

[Reggie Miller]

Do players eat during overtime?

[Ray Ferraro]

Yeah, they got, they got. Well, now it's easy. They got bananas and protein bars all stocked up in there and they're good. Back in the day that there was a Pittsburgh Philly game went to five overtimes. They had to find a pizza place that would make pizza and deliver it over to the Pittsburgh locker room because it was in Pittsburgh. So they got the food. I don't know what Philly was eating. Like, there's nothing around at that time.

[Reggie Miller]

We got the sp. What is it, the Spanmani brothers or whatever? P. Brothers.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Reggie Miller]

Yeah, they should.

[Ray Ferraro]

You imagine. Yeah, the boiler. The boiler would be turning over with a couple of bites of the hose, man.

[Reggie Miller]

Thank you, Ray. We'll be watching tomorrow night.

[Ray Ferraro]

Awesome. Thanks, man. Good to talk to you again.

[Reggie Miller]

Ray Ferraro. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

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[Reggie Miller]

I hate to say it, but I don't trust much of anything. It's the rage bait. It feels like it's trying to divide people.

[Ray Ferraro]

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[Dan Patrick]

Maybe we could calm down a little.

[Reggie Miller]

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[Ray Ferraro]

Brings you clear reporting.

[Reggie Miller]

Let's meet at the facts. Let's move forward from there. NBC News reporting for America.

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[Reggie Miller]

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[Ray Ferraro]

I insisted first.

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[Reggie Miller]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Reggie Miller]

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[Reggie Miller]

Hey, everyone, it's Kal Penn. I'm the host of Irsay The Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club. This week on the podcast, I am sitting down with Ray Porter, the narrator of Andy Weir's audiobook project, Hail Mary Massive sci fi adventure about survival and science and what happens when you wake up alone, very far from Earth.

[Dan Patrick]

I really had to make a decision because I caught myself getting that frog in my throat and starting to get teary as I'm narrating some of these sections.

[Reggie Miller]

And it's like, okay, yo, yo, yo.

[Dan Patrick]

Is this indulgent? And I really thought about it. I was like, no. At this point, it would kind of be betraying the trust the author and the listener have in telling this story if I don't go through it. But there's places in this book that.

[Ray Ferraro]

That deeply, emotionally affected me, and I

[Dan Patrick]

left it on the mic.

[Ray Ferraro]

That's great because it served the story. People will say, like, oh, my God,

[Dan Patrick]

I cried at the end. It's like, yeah, dude, me too.

[Reggie Miller]

Listen to Irsay the Audible and I Heart Audio Be Book Club on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Reggie Miller, hall of Famer, NBA on NBC, lead analyst. Okay, let me. Let me get a couple of questions out of the way. This came up about winning a championship or being a Hall of Famer. So you're a Hall of Famer. You didn't win a championship. But if I said you could trade places with Rip Hamilton or you could keep your career. So you win a title, but you're not a Hall of Famer.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm keeping my career, okay? I love my career.

[Reggie Miller]

Okay, now, there was another one that somebody brought up. If you could change the outcome. Let's see, was that 19? What. What was the year, Marvin?

[Dan Patrick]

Game seven, 98 conference finals or game four? 2000 finals. Which. Which game would you rather have won?

[Reggie Miller]

You can change the outcome of either one. So you go or you don't have to change anything. But you go 22 with the Lakers or you beat Jordan and you go to the NBA Finals.

[Ray Ferraro]

Wow.

[Dan Patrick]

Both are very intriguing, very difficult questions. Look, winning a Game 7 in Chicago versus, in my opinion, the greatest player of all time. I probably would take that again. You and I have had this discussion, Mark Jackson and I, that that was our thinking. We wanted to retire Jordan. So I would probably take that one, winning game four versus Shaq and Kobe to even the series. Two, two. That doesn't guarantee that we were going to win that series. All it meant was that the series was 2:2. We thought we had that game when Shaq fouled out because he was just too dominating in that series. So when he fouled out in that game and it went to overtime, we thought we had that until this young kid showed his greatness in Kobe Bryant and they went up three one. We won game five three two, and they closed us out in six. So it. That wouldn't have guaranteed us winning that series, but to win in Chicago in a Game 7 versus Michael Jordan, that would have been great. But here we are. Here we are.

[Reggie Miller]

And that leads us to tonight's game. And I wondered when we started the show, I said, it feels like there's more pressure on the Knicks than the spurs because the spurs know we lost those two. And yes, we're probably not winning this series. Odds are heavily against us. But the Knicks go back home. Crazy environment. Yeah. And you can't afford to give San Antonio a glimmer of hope. And that's why when I saw San Antonio is only a two and a half point underdog here, you would think after losing those two, maybe being down in the dumps, now you're going into the Garden. They can't wait to crown the Knicks as a champion here. Who has more pressure?

[Dan Patrick]

I said this on one of our telecasts about the Knicks. I always feared the Knicks most when they were on the road. And they kind of show that in the first two games their fan base travels well. But for whatever reason, as a team, when we were going against Patrick and John and Oak and all those. Those Knicks teams on the road, they played totally different when they were away from the Garden. I don't know what it was, but they were so locked in and great. And we saw that in games one and two in San Antonio. I think when you. They go home, you get a chance. All the things you just highlighted, you relax a little bit, your family's there, the crowd's going to be pumping, you've won the first two, you almost kind of exhale, which you hope that's not the case. You're in the finals now and you have your two wins away from a championship. This is the time to put your foot on the gas even more. But for whatever reason, the Knicks at times seem to settle and let teams hang around. Right now, if you're the spurs, you have absolutely nothing to lose. You are playing with house money. The. Obviously no team has ever come back losing their first two games at home and winning a championship. So history's not on your side. So you might as well just go out and play. I've been a little surprised in this series because the same team that we covered in the Western Conference, that is not the same spurs team that I'm seeing in the finals. It's. It was almost like their main mission was just to beat the Thunder and they forgot there was one more series left. It. They're not playing the same way. And it's, you know, if you're a Spurs fan, it's, it's been a little bit of head scratching watching these first two games.

[Reggie Miller]

Were you okay with that final shot by Wimby?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I mean, your best player takes that shot. I mean, it was a clean look. Personally, I probably would have loved to seeing de' Aaron Fox be a little bit more aggressive in that. Remember, he was a former clutch player of the year, something we've seen Jalen Brunson be in these first two games. Think about this. Jalen Brunson has not played great at all in this series. I, I think he's like 17 for 56. He's like 4, 420 from 3. And yet the Knicks are up to nothing. He's been great in the clutch, especially in game one. But overall he has not had the type of shooting game that he's capable of. And the Knicks are still up to nothing. That's why it's a little scary because you know those shots are going to fall when he's back home. And the way that Mel Bridges, the way that Landry sham it. Oh gee. The way they are shooting the basketball, deuce McBride off the bench. This is a, this is a full complement of Knicks teams. This is the best I think I've

[Ray Ferraro]

ever seen them play.

[Reggie Miller]

I want to look at the bigger picture here because this shouldn't be viewed as a one off with the Knicks. They went to the Eastern Conference finals. They probably should have made it to the finals last year. But if they sweep San Antonio and you end up winning 15 consecutive playoff games, you would match Golden State Warriors. Now all of a sudden, you know, at least for one year, I have. I know it wasn't a dominating regular season, but postseason. Yeah, like they're going to be in the conversation of one of the greatest and the point differential to Reggie throughout the postseason. I don't know if we look at the Knicks that way, but I think we should, at least statistically, historically.

[Dan Patrick]

You've got to put them in that conversation, and you've got to have these hard conversations. And I know people will not. They'll say, well, who did they play? They played Atlanta. No experience. They were down 2:1 in that series.

[Reggie Miller]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

And after that, game three, they've run off 13 straight. They're going to say, well, they play Philadelphia in the second round. And Joel Embiid, you play who's in front of you. That's the same Philadelphia team that won a Game 7 in Boston. They played the Cavs in the conference finals. That's the same cavs that won by 30 in Detroit in a game seven. I don't want to hear it, people. You've got to have these hard conversations about the Knicks if they find a way to win two more games in a row and win 15 in a row on their way to an NBA championship. We're not, you and I, we're not up here saying they're the greatest.

[Reggie Miller]

Nope.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. No, we're not saying that. But you've got to have a hard conversation on how this run, starting with Game four in Atlanta all the way until now, it's. It's impressive what the Knicks have done.

[Reggie Miller]

Nobody brings up the Lakers and Magic were banged up when Michael Jordan won his first NBA title.

[Dan Patrick]

You play who's in front of you. Everyone's banged up at this point in time. Right. I don't want to hear it, people. I mean, Boston could have had something to say about this. They lost that game, Game seven at home. Detroit could have had something to say about this. You lost by 30 plus game seven at home. All right, you play who's in front of you. That's all the Knicks are doing right now.

[Reggie Miller]

Talking to Reggie Miller, hall of Famer, NBA on NBC, lead analyst. I think Carl Anthony Towns would be my MVP right now because seems to be doing it at both ends. And I, I wondered this in. In the first hour, Reg, that Mike Brown was on Golden State's coaching staff, and I wonder if he saw how Steve Kerr used Draymond Green and if he's using Carl Anthony Towns now as sort of a larger, better shooting than Draymond Green, where the offense is going through him probably more than it ever has.

[Ray Ferraro]

100.

[Dan Patrick]

And I think cat has embraced that role. That's a great comparison though. Cat's not the defender that Draymond is, but Draymond's not the shooter and score that Cat is. I think in terms of passing, very similar. And though the Knicks don't have that one weapon like Golden State obviously in Stephen Curry and or Klay Thompson during those championship runs. Again, the. The way that Mikhail Bridges think about this, people were talking about benching him in that Atlanta series after the first two or three games. Like what was wrong with Mikhail Bridges? And now he's having a historical run here over the last two rounds, the conference finals and now and Karl Anthony Towns, the way they put the ball in his hands and he has been able to facilitate and to your point at the other end defensively, again, we thought that Wimby was going to be able to walk on water after what he did in that conference final. He looks shell shocked a little bit and it's because of the physicality of the game being brought to him by Cat. So right now he probably is maybe the odds on favor to win that finals mvp. But I will say this. They don't win game one without the brilliance of Jalen Brunson. And again in game two, that big shot again came from Jalen Brunson. He's the, he is the one player that. He's the ultimate closer. Anytime the game is close, I don't care who you're playing, I will always trust in Brunson. Too good of footwork. His mechanics are great. His foundation is fantastic. That dude just scares me if a game is close and the ball is in his hands.

[Reggie Miller]

See? Remind you of anybody you played against?

[Dan Patrick]

I'm not comparing them. I'm not saying they're the same. So people, please don't come at me. But when mj, when Kobe, when both of those guys had the ball in the closing moments, you just knew something special was going to happen. You knew they were going to get a clean look. Now rather they made it or missed it, that was on them. I look at Brunson that same way. He can get any shot he wants in the closing moment. Now, if he makes it or miss, that's on him. But there's not a lot of defense you're going to be able to do one on one to stop that. All three of those guys have something very similar. Their footwork is impeccable. They play off of Two feet every single time. Now Kobe and Mike, they played in the air a lot. Whereas Brunson being a smaller guard, everything has to. His footwork has to be and his timing has to be on point. So again, don't cut. I'm not putting them in that category. Don't come after me. But in terms of making big shots, I put him up there with Kobe and mj.

[Reggie Miller]

Explain this to the audience. I tried to, but even when you're supposed to take shots, even if you're not making shots, like Iverson had to keep shooting. Explain that to the audience of even when you're missing, it's important to the offense, to your teammates to keep shooting. If you're that main guy.

[Dan Patrick]

It's the evolution of life. You've got to keep things moving. Even though you're having an off night offensively, the rest of those four guys, they look to you for guidance and strength. So when your best player becomes timid or shy or, or turns down shots, the other four guys and the rest of the team, they look, they bow their heads because their best player is not aggressive. I don't care if I was 3 for 15, 16. I have to, I had to continue to shoot the basketball to give them strength. Because law of averages, your best player is going to find a way in the closing moments. Like Brunson in Game 1. He was shooting terrible, but all it takes is a free throw an and one, a layup to get you going. And then it seems like that rim is like the ocean. So you've got to continue to be great. They trust Brunson so much. That's why I think he's always aggressive, even when he's having an off night.

[Reggie Miller]

Give me your all 6 foot 2 and under team.

[Dan Patrick]

I would go with Isaiah, I would go with AI, I would go with Stockton because look, he has the all time assist. You're going to start thinking about Brunson in this case now, people, especially if he, if he wins the championship. But there's others like Brunson, Nate, Tiny Archibald,

[Reggie Miller]

Chris Paul.

[Dan Patrick]

Chris. Chris Paul. Yes, definitely. Chris Paul. Yes. Steve, here's another, here's another name that people don't like, associate with smaller guards. Would Tony Parker be in this conversation as a six foot one and under right? He was six foot one, I believe.

[Reggie Miller]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Tony Parker should be in that category.

[Reggie Miller]

All right.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't think he was six three

[Reggie Miller]

or six four Tony Parker.

[Dan Patrick]

No, he was six' one.

[Reggie Miller]

But Steph is 63, right?

[Dan Patrick]

Steph is six' three. So I, I he. You said six' one, right?

[Reggie Miller]

62.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, he's 63, so he's out of his.

[Reggie Miller]

The best six' two and under player of all time is

[Dan Patrick]

Isaiah. I'll go with Isaiah.

[Reggie Miller]

What's Kyrie?

[Dan Patrick]

He's six three, six four, right? He's six three. He's not six two.

[Reggie Miller]

Okay.

[Dan Patrick]

But, man, he's it. So him and Steph, now that's six three to six five. That's. Now that's a conversation right there. Because now you're talking. Steph, Kyrie, Dwayne Wade. Like, this is a very difficult conversation. James Harden. I don't know why we put James Harden in that conversation with those other three guys, but he has the points, so.

[Reggie Miller]

Tougher. Tougher to give me a best player under 6 2. How about the best player under 6 5? Would you take Dwayne Wade over Steph Curry?

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, no, I'm going with Curry.

[Reggie Miller]

Okay. Is there anybody you would take over Steph Curry Under 6 5. 65 and under.

[Dan Patrick]

I mean, I love Isaiah.

[Reggie Miller]

If I say we have a draft, you.

[Dan Patrick]

You.

[Reggie Miller]

You have first pick, you got. No, no, no. You're starting your team with your point guard. So you can have anybody under six five.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow. I'm. I'm probably starting with Wardell. Oh, Zeke, I love you. Oh, I love you, Zeke. So then am I on this team?

[Reggie Miller]

No.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, okay. Then I'll start with Wardell. If I was on this team, I would start with Zeke. If I was the shooting guard.

[Reggie Miller]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

And I couldn't be on the same team together. We basically did the same thing. Well, he was much better than I was, but we're the. Where we would complement one another.

[Reggie Miller]

Well, you'd be Klay Thompson.

[Dan Patrick]

You know what? You're right.

[Ray Ferraro]

I'm still going with Wardell.

[Reggie Miller]

I'm gonna take Steph Curry.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I'm going.

[Ray Ferraro]

I'm going with Steph.

[Reggie Miller]

Yeah. All right. Enjoy the game.

[Dan Patrick]

I appreciate it. Game three.

[Reggie Miller]

Yeah, we'll talk to you next week.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Well, now, will it be. Will it be over by then? Are you. Do you think it'll be over by then? Monday, Wednesday, Today? Wednesday.

[Reggie Miller]

I'm going to say no.

[Dan Patrick]

Which game does San Antonio win tonight or Wednesday?

[Reggie Miller]

Tonight. Wow,

[Dan Patrick]

that place is going to be buzzing. You got the president. That is going to be a zoo in there.

[Reggie Miller]

Oh, I know.

[Dan Patrick]

They lose that. They lose that game. I know. With all that hype, I don't know. I can see them maybe losing game four.

[Reggie Miller]

But tonight, no, if they win tonight, you and you have a chance to sweep, win the title. It'll be crazier in Game four.

[Dan Patrick]

All right. A lot has to happen. Too many youth mistakes. First time. First of all, call a timeout, Mitch. Coach Johnson, I love you. Call a time out.

[Reggie Miller]

He's Reggie Miller, hall of Famer, NBA on NBC lead analyst thank you, Reg

[Dan Patrick]

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