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Danny Patrick
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Dan Patrick
You are listening to the Dan Patrick
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Brian Rolapp
show on Fox Sports Radio.
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Dan Patrick
Brian Rolap is the PGA Tour CEO joining us on the program. I apologize for our stupid discussion there. Let me start out with maybe what sounds obvious. What's the biggest hurdle facing the PGA Tour?
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Brian Rolapp
Brian I think the biggest hurdle is how we take this momentum and this popularity we have around the sport of golf and around the PGA Tour and turn that into long term sustained success and stability. So a lot of the work we're doing is not only make it better for fans, both golf fans and sports fans, but also build something that has lasting power in a world that's changing all the time. And I don't think that's just a PGA Tour challenge. I think that's a challenge for. For anybody in the sports business, quite frankly.
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Dan Patrick
Sir, Anything positive that live Tour did for the PGA Tour.
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Brian Rolapp
Yeah, I've said this. I think, you know, competition makes everybody stronger. I think, you know, there was this a bit of a narrative around that live was in competition. It was. It was competing for people's attention and time and certainly competing for players before I got here. But I've said it often, this was a little bit of golf had their AFL NFL moment. They just had it late. And is the NFL better because of the AFL NFL moment? I think so. I don't think it's the modern NFL without it. So I don't know enough about the ABA NBA history, but there's probably a parallel there to be drawn. So I think they got that right and sort of pushed the PGA Tour to get better. So, yeah, I think that has had a lasting impact.
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Dan Patrick
If you look at it, I don't know if the formula one model can work in golf where everybody is showing up, the best are showing up at each event, but how close can you get to that?
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Brian Rolapp
I think we can get close. I think we're working hard on it, and we'll have more to say about this in less than a month, but it's clearly what fans want. This is not a sport, and we're not a tour where we're going to put guys under contract. It's not in their DNA. It's not how it's built, and I think that's okay. But I do think we can create a competitive model where the best show up and they show up because they want to play against the best and that they're working towards a postseason that awards the best. So I think we get close. Will we have a model where every single player is in every single event? I don't think so, but I don't think we need that. I think we'll have. We'll have a set of really compelling tournaments where almost all the top 120 guys show up and they're competing in a competitive model that's a lot easier to understand.
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Dan Patrick
Than today, talking to Brian Rolapp, the PGA Tour CEO. I've said this for years where I thought the Masters could say, we're going to give you a golf ball to use when you come here to play. So, and you know, how many of these courses around the world that, you know, distance, technology, equipment, and I don't know what input the PGA Tour has if, let's say Augustus says if you come there, you got to use our golf ball, if any power over them.
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Brian Rolapp
Well, I mean, I think you're getting to the golf ball debate, which is really a debate about distance and even a finer point on it. It's a, it's a debate about distance off the tee, I think, is what really people are talking about. And this is a debate I've learned since I've been here, not even quite a year, and I'm still learning. I think there's two big questions facing the golf world. One, is distance a problem? And when we say the golf world, I really mean professional golf. Is distance a problem? Is it not good for the game? Is it ruining the game? Is it, is it making courses obsolete? Or whatever you want to pick? That's open question number one. And open question number two is if it is, does impacting the golf ball solve that problem? And I think depending who you talk to in the golf world, the answer to those questions are in open debate. I think on one hand you've got courses that are shorter and older, and on the other hand you have these athletes who keep getting better every, every year. And, you know, that's great to see. And I think there's some people on the side of the debate who say that's not what golf should be. I think there's other people on the side of the debate who said that's exactly what golf is. And, you know, you don't make it the 110 meter dash because Usain Bolt's really fast. And so I think, I think it's very much an open debate. I think what's really interesting, Dan, is who have very strong feelings about it are the guys who are doing this every day, which are the professional golfers, and they are, since I've been here, are inserting themselves in this debate a little bit stronger than I think I've seen historically. But I think is, I think it's. I think it's better for the golf world to have one set of rules. What's, what makes it so great is, you know, you and I could go out here on 18 at TPC Sawgrass and spend all day trying to replicate Cam Young's 375 yard tee shot in the Players Championship and never do it. And you gain an appreciation for that because you're playing with the same equipment under the same conditions. So I think we'll see. I think this debate's far from over, but I think everyone's trying to do the right thing.
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Dan Patrick
We like to see things that we've never seen before. We like to be fascinated, like Wemby, Steph Curry. And you need personalities. I, I look at Mike Trout with the Angels, he was the best player in baseball, but people said, well, he has no personality. Scotty Scheffler is not Tiger woods in personality, in draw, but results might be. So I don't know how, how can you as the CEO encourage or bring out personality? And if, how much would that move the needle?
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Brian Rolapp
I think it, I mean, I think it could move the needle. You know, people do love sports, analy sports personalities in sports, whether that's the loud guy, whether that's the guy who just goes about doing his business quietly. I mean that runs the gamut in sports. I do think professional golf, we can do better telling the stories. There's this, I think there's this been this false narrative around the sport of golf that a tournament or a competition only matters if four guys are in it. And you could probably name the four guys or five guys and whatever. Everyone's list is similar when the reality is you look at any given professional golf tournament on a weekend and the difference in winning or losing is a stroke or two over four days. And the competitive parity of the sport of golf is incredible. And as good as Scotty is, Scotty can't win every week. That's how much competitive parity there is out there. I think we have to do a better job telling the stories about that. And I think we have to do a better job in our telecasts, in our social media content about telling the stories and showing the personalities of these guys. Because there's quite a bit and you never see it. One thing we did do when I was here about a month and a half and I called the NFL Films guys and I said, hey, you know what we did for Hard Knocks for decades? Why don't we try it at the Players Championship, come down and mic these guys, follow them around for four days and see what we get. And it resulted in a show called Chasing Sunday, which is, you could watch it on YouTube. But it is a hard knocks look at the Players Tournament or Players Championship and You see personalities like you in a way you've never seen before. And so I think we just have to do things like that to let people know who these guys are because they're pretty extraordinary.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, and I was going to ask you about that. Trying to bring the NFL to the PGA Tour.
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Brian Rolapp
Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
How can you do that?
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Brian Rolapp
Well, look, the NFL is one of one like you don't. I mean, I think in this job it would be a mistake to say everything we did, the NFL is going to work at the PGA Tour. Or even to say that professional football and professional golf are the same thing. They're not, they're different. And, and that's a good thing. That's great. But I do think there are things we learned at the NFL that I was part of that I think we can bring to professional golf. I think what we're talking about is the NFL. We obsessed about the competitive product. How do you make it better on the field? And not only do you just think non stop about making the game better, making the game better, honoring tradition, but not being overly bound by it, but not only just do that once, but constantly do that. And we change rules every year for the, for the benefit of the sport. And I think that can help here. I think so. This, this commitment to innovation and just thinking like a fan and thinking about the product, I think we're going to do more of that here. I think about how you present the sport on television and media. We obsessed about that and not only just when the game was on, but also during the week and in the off season. And that's some of the things we're talking about. And so I think, you know, some things we're talking about when we talk about the personality of the players, I think that's something we can do. But you know, we, we were, you know, we had a great saying at the NFL is only the paranoid survive. And I think that just means you got to keep keep changing, keep innovating. And I think we're trying to bring a little of that here.
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Dan Patrick
Can we do something about the piped in bird sounds? Brian, come on.
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Brian Rolapp
Honestly, I don't know a ton about the P I, I, I, I don't even know if that's a real thing.
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Dan Patrick
Just listen to the Quail Hollow coverage. And there was a bird that followed the leaders the entire round.
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Brian Rolapp
Listen, you got to ask the guys in the truck about that. I, I don't, I don't know about.
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Dan Patrick
You're big CEO, you got power. I don't.
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Brian Rolapp
Listen, there's Some things I don't understand. I don't, I, I don't get in the production truck. And I, I don't know, you know, the bird population in Charlotte, North Carolina, either. So I do have limits to what I can do.
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Dan Patrick
The galleries, issues. I know we, we have waste management, we encourage that. But issues with, and gambling, you know, it's a, it's a vocal. Everybody knows prop bets, you know, people are vocal there. People get angry, too.
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Brian Rolapp
Yeah, I think this is an issue for all sports. Any sport you go to, there's a, there's a fan code of conduct.
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Danny Patrick
Right.
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Brian Rolapp
And maybe it varies from sport to sport based on the tradition and everything else, but golf should be no different. I mean, people, people should cheer and be excited, but there's going to be a line of inappropriate behavior that, you know, shouldn't be tolerated. And that's no difference in a football game or baseball game or anybody else, anywhere else. And I also think the issue of gambling and sports and integrity of the sports has been an issue. And let's, let's, let's be honest. An issue way before sports gambling was legal in this country. I mean, this is old as time. And so I think you just have to be really diligent about those things and being willing to enforce it, because bad fan conduct or much, much worse gambling scandal is the first thing that could negatively impact sports. And so, listen, I think there's always a line there. And I think, you know, sports organizations should be always prepared to enforce whatever that fan conduct is.
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Dan Patrick
What's your golf handicap?
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Brian Rolapp
Not good. Well, you know, I will tell you. Worse. Worse. Since I took this job, I actually play a lot less golf in this job than I did before. I actually made this rule when I got here is that I wouldn't play golf for work because that's probably a pretty good rule anywhere you go. But in this industry, you know, everybody wants to have a meeting. They're like, let's go play golf and have a meeting. I'm like, well, why don't we just have the meeting and give me my four hours back, because golf is for, like, what I do with my boys and my girl on the weekend. So it's gotten worse. But at some point, I'll come up rare and work on it a little bit.
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Dan Patrick
If you play golf against Roger Goodell, who wins?
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Brian Rolapp
Oh, I think Roger beats me. He's really good. He's good. I've never, I've never played with him. But, but he, he's certainly been playing longer than I have. And he's a, he's a, he's a pretty good player. He's too modest. He won't brag about it, but he's a good golfer.
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Dan Patrick
Well, maybe he's taking those meetings on the golf course.
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Brian Rolapp
No, that, that, he doesn't, you know, he doesn't. I've worked with Roger long enough to know. Yeah, he works hard. And so I don't, I don't think he, he spends a lot of time on the golf course.
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Dan Patrick
Great to catch up with you, Brian. Good luck in the job. Thanks for joining us.
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Brian Rolapp
All right, Dan, great to see you. Thanks for having me.
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Dan Patrick
Brian Rolap, PGA Tour CEO.
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Brian Rolapp
Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
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Rob Parker
This is Rob Parker, and I'm here with an important public service announcement. Whatever you do, do not listen to the Paulie and Tony Fusco show. Fox Sports Radio asked me to do a promo, but I'm here to do a no Mo, as in don't listen to this show no mo the host of two fools from Philly who have the dumbest takes ever in all of sports talk. And you know, if I'm saying that, they must really be bad. I have no idea why Fox Sports Radio picked this up, but I know where to put it down in the trash can. So please don't listen to the Paulie and Tony Fusco show. No way, no how.
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Ryan Seacrest
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Dan Patrick
Hey, everyone, it's Cal Penn. I'm the host of Irsay The Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club. This week on the podcast, I am sitting down with Ray Porter, the narrator of Andy Weir's audiobook project Hail Mary Massive sci fi adventure about survival and science and what happens when you wake up alone, very far from Earth.
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Cal Penn
I really had to make a decision because I caught myself getting that frog in my throat and starting to get teary as I'm narrating some of these sections and it's like, okay, yo, yo, yo. Is this indulgent? And I really thought about it. I was like, no. At this point, it would kind of be betraying the trust the author and the listener have in telling this story if I don't go through it. But there's places in this book that that deeply, emotionally affected me and I left it on the mic. That's great because it served the story. People will say like, oh my God, I cried at the end. It's like, yeah, dude, me too.
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
oh, look who is back. My goal is not to get him in trouble this time around. He's Austin Rivers, NBC sports analyst. Wait a minute.
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Rob Parker
Oh man, oh man. The storm you blew up last time I was here.
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Dan Patrick
My goodness, what was that about? What was that story?
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Rob Parker
I don't remember. I just remember I went from peace to war very quickly. All is cooled. All is cooled off.
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Dan Patrick
Okay. Is it just a coincidence that when the spurs play well or Wemby plays well, the spurs win? When SGA plays well, the Thunder win.
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Rob Parker
No. The two best players of the team, they are the head of the snake. I thought Wimy just did a fantastic job last night just being aggressive. I know some of his first first few shots were like deep threes. But it was the non hesitation in his game that I liked. How sure he was he came out. He's letting it fly. They were great. They were physical. If the spurs play like that, it could be an interesting game set.
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Dan Patrick
And there's that. I don't know who you played against, where there's, they're omnipresent. Like, you know, they're there and they make you think consciously or subconsciously, they may get a piece of this shot. Was there somebody that you want?
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Rob Parker
I think, I think you have to give Gobert credit for that. You know, I mean, I think that's actually one of the things he did do well. Many things he did well defensively, but when he was at, like, his prime, Rudy was a guy that, whether he was blocking the shot or not, when you drove to the basket, you had to at least see where he was at. And he altered shots that way. He has, he had, you know, an impact on the defensive side. So not to this level. We've never seen it. Obviously, what Wemby does is just like, I mean, the alien is the best nickname, I think, fitting for this dude dude. But yeah, Rudy had a little bit of that for sure.
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Dan Patrick
Was there a market correction last night with SGA that he only shoots three free throws?
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Rob Parker
No, because I've seen, you know, I, I, I understand why people feel this way. And I get it, that when he falls after every jump shot, it's, it can be, you know, hard to watch and other things. But I've called games this year where I've seen this guy make like 15 to 20 field goals in a game. He's unbelievable as a basketball player. So I thought they did a great job defending and just coming out of the game with physicality. And they took the win out of okc. OKC hung around for most of the game until that third quarter, and they just, you know, they blew it wide open. And I think you heard it after the game with Shay's interview. He's like, I'm ready to go. I think these guys were already, I don't want to say they're planning for game seven, but I think they went into that game last night, they put up a fight, and as soon as it turned, they're like, let's go get it at home. This has been a tick for tack series. These two teams mirror each other. They do a lot of the same things, actually, in every regard, they're the same team. So this is, I mean, this has been the best series all playoffs. And, you know, I do feel if OKC wins, they have a stronger chance of winning the championship. Whereas I feel like if San Antonio wins, The Knicks could be a thorn in their side in certain regards. And, yeah, it's interesting how this will play out.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. And I keep saying, I hope the officials let certain moments play on and not call. There's certain moments where you just say, okay, you know, let's go. And I. I see this more in the WNBA than I do the NBA. It feels like they do stop, you know, they're going to give the benefit of the doubt. And if I'm sga, I go searching for fouls, I don't stop. I don't want to apologize for winning.
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Danny Patrick
Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
So I think we'll probably see him more aggressive in game seven. You're at home. I would be surprised if he doesn't shoot more than 10 free throws on Saturday.
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Rob Parker
I. Yeah, the aggression will definitely be up in a game seven. You go for it. You know, they did a great job of surrounding him. You got a corral, sga.
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Dan Patrick
He.
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Rob Parker
You can't let him operate in space. He has to continue to make the right play, and they're okay with that. You have to be willing with Dort and Caruso threes. I know Caruso's playing out of his mind right now. We got to live with that, though, you know, I mean, like, Caruso and Dort hit five threes each. Four threes, you know, hey, listen, shake their hand. And we gave our best, but, like, giving him, like you said, room to operate in him getting 14, 15 free throws. You're not going to win that way. There's a. There's a proof history of when he plays that well and plays at that level and gets that many free throws, they win just about damn near every time. So that he has to continue to play in crowded space. San Antonio did a fantastic, fantastic job last night of doing that and just being physical with them, throwing different bodies at him. They had Carter Bryant on them. They had a sale on him at one point. Obviously, the main guy is Castle. You just continue just to just throw fresh bodies at him, be physical. Hopefully he could wear down a little bit. We'll see, though. You know how it is. Game seven.
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Dan Patrick
Anything can happen.
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Rob Parker
Anything can happen.
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Dan Patrick
Talking Austin Rivers NBC SPORTS ANALYST when your dad was coaching the Celtics, did you ever play pickup games with those guys?
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Rob Parker
Sometimes it was more so like one on ones. Like, I would play ones with guys before. This is when I got a little bit older, because at that time I was like, probably like ninth grade, you know, eighth, ninth grade, when he was like, at, you know, towards the prime years of Boston. So I could Play a little bit. At that point it was only a few years away from like, you know, really being able to play. So those were good memories. I got some ones in with some of those guys for sure.
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Dan Patrick
Anybody as intense as Kevin Garnett in your life?
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Rob Parker
No, no, no. That's like peak intense. I don't think there's anybody I've ever played against or seen in an NBA game be more intense than Kevin Garnett. So that he used to always scare me, you know, just when I was young and then obviously when I became more of a fan of basketball, like I, I was obsessed with his old, like just his aura, his, his, his tenacious, you know, energy and what he brought to that Celtics team, that 08 Celtics team. Again, you could, you know, Paul Pierce was the guy, but KG was the spirit of that team. And yeah, playing against him one on one was crazy. I know that story.
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Dan Patrick
Do you, do you believe in analytics?
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Rob Parker
I do, I do. I do. I don't, I don't. There's a difference between believing in them and living by them. You know, I believe in analytics. I'm not going to full, full fledged pledge to the point to where that only matters. There are things that numbers don't show. There is an eye test. There's a feeling you could watch a player and see if he has feel for the game. There are things that analytics just don't show, so you can't live and die by them. But they have to be a part of your, of your process. Especially just with the way the game has changed and how shooting has been implicated in just team success. So. Yeah, for sure.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. But it feels like these two teams that are playing in the Western Conference finals aren't three point shooting teams.
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Rob Parker
Correct, Correct.
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Dan Patrick
And I wonder, we, we. Most leagues are copycat leagues. When you see a team win a championship, you're like, oh, maybe we can be the greatest show on Turf like the St. Louis Rams were. We'll change our offense here. I don't know if this changes in approach. If you know, either one of these teams win the title. I mean it helps having SGA and Wemby, but still their philosophy is not married to the three point shot.
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Rob Parker
It's not. It's contradicted everything the game has continued to press. Right. I would say it's hard to copycat. You kind of nailed it on the head, Dan. It's hard to copycat a team that has NSGA who's, you know, a generational scorer. And then obviously what Wemby is, you Definitely can't replicate that. Right. Both these teams have hung their hat on being deep and having guys that could play two way basketball. All these teams have guys that are, that can play both sides of the ball. Darren Fox is not a bad defender. He can play on both sides of the ball. Dylan Harper can play on both sides of the ball. We know what Castle can do on both sides of the ball. We know Wimby can do. Carter Bryant comes in and is mainly a defender. All these guys, Vassell, all these dudes can play both sides of the basketball. When you go to the Thunder, it's the same thing. They have eight or nine guys who are two way players. We got so caught up in a rush of guys who could just shoot that like teams just went and found guys that can just shoot, you know what I mean? And the three and D term is thrown around loosely. There's a lot of guys who are attached 3 and D and aren't even great defenders. The Thunder genuinely and San Antonio have two way players and they're not three and D guys, they're just guys that can ball. So I think to your point, yeah, you might see teams not be so like, you know, harping on whether a guy can shoot 40 from three if he's got talent, if he can play, if he can compete. Does he know how to play, you know how to move it out the ball. That's another thing. All, all these teams are unselfish. You see how the ball pops around the perimeter. Both teams obviously shaves the score. So he's going to shoot a lot of shots, but that ball flies around when it's not in his hands. And it's the same thing with San Antonio, you know. So I think that is what we're going to see. Being more of a copycat. People talked about the purity of basketball being lost. I do think we're going back to an era of the ball moving around more. Instead of like the Lucas, the, you know, the, the Trey Youngs, all these guys are remarkable players, right. But that style of play where you're dribbling like the air out the ball, you just don't. With the exception of Shay, the ball really pops and you're seeing that with a lot of these teams. Indiana was kind of a secret to that last year when they popped up. So multiple guys that could put the ball on the floor, multiple guys that could defend.
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Dan Patrick
If I said you had to get a two and I'm going to you pick of the guys still left if I give you brunson and sga. You need a two game on the line. You need a two.
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Rob Parker
Man, that's so tough man. Brunson's so damn good down the stretch, man, it's like it's impossible to like not pick him just because what we've seen. And yet I still, I have to go with the guy who's, I gotta go with the MVP man for a multitude of reasons. It's close. First off, there's no wrong answer because Brunson is probably my favorite player in the NBA. Just his footwork. But Shay's taller, can always get a shot off no matter what. Not that you see Brunson get a shot blocked anytime, but shaken at least get a shot off whenever. And I know with the foul baiting stuff at the very worst I'm getting maybe two free throws with the guy, you know what I'm saying? Like he's going to get a clean look or he's getting to the line. So that's, that's where I would have to probably just go Shay, I think they're 1 and 2 in the NBA. In terms of clutch.
- [30:24]
Dan Patrick
Are you and Draymond okay now?
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Rob Parker
I, I, I, I don't know. I don't know. You know what man? Me and him have always had like a little, you know, whatever when we played we'd always talk a lot versus each other for whatever reason we extra than like somebody else. And that no surprise carried over to, to the, the events following your show. Dan, I, I wish any negativity upon him. I wish him all the best in his life. I stand by everything I said. I don't take anything back.
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Dan Patrick
But you were being an analyst, he was being personal. That's correct.
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Rob Parker
That's how he responds when we talk basketball. I'll talk about black and white. He'll go personal. It's like when Chuck said, how are you guys gonna, you guys are getting older. How are you guys gonna defeat Father Time? What's the plan? Well, the plan is not to look like you in a Houston J. It wasn't. He never responded to the question. Yeah, he went personal with Chuck. You know what I'm saying? That's what he does. He goes personal so well, I woke up the next day or two days later and had a full on three minute video about myself just dissecting my career. I was just like, you know what? And I, I, I responded with my video and that did what it did. But you know, I still kept it, I still kept it light. I could have went, I could have Went, you know, I mean, like. But that's That I don't like to be messy, and that's not who I am. I have respect for Draymond, despite whatever we feel about each other. But, yeah, I stand by what I said. Ain't nothing changed.
- [31:56]
Dan Patrick
Well, you can be all defense, but he's all defensive.
- [32:00]
Rob Parker
Yeah. I mean, my main point was, like, I've never heard Dennis Robin be like, you know, Phil, I wish I was more of a focal point in the office. You know, he was Dennis Robbins, a Hall of Famer for what he did in his role. He was a superstar in his role. Don't get that confused with being the superstar. There's a difference. Right? That's common sense. That's all I was alluding to when he said the Steve Kerr comments. He obviously got in his feels and went personal instead of responding to what I said. We all know what I said was the truth, because that's the reality of the situation, and he has nothing to be ashamed of. That's why he's in the hall of Fame, man. That's why he's made over $200 million. You know, he should be smiling and be happy that he's had such a great career and that he's done great things for the game of basketball instead of, like, trying to fight who he is. That's, you know, it's all good, man. So we all have those. Those identity issues. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean?
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Dan Patrick
You know what I mean, man?
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Rob Parker
It's all good, bro. I got down my love and respect. He's reached heights at every basketball player, including myself, in terms of being a Hall of gamer, dreams of being so respect to him, and, yeah, that's that.
- [32:58]
Dan Patrick
Okay. I didn't get you in trouble. Nothing's blowing up this time around. It's all good. And you did your job. You. You were analytical. That's the hard part for players with former players, like, what are you doing? Like, how you know. You know what it's like to, you know, all of those things, but you're doing a great job. You're doing a great job. He's Austin Rivers, NBC sports analyst. Great to talk to you again. Thank you, bud.
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Rob Parker
Always, anytime, anytime.
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Hey everyone, it's Cal Penn. I'm the host of Irsay The Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club. This week on the podcast, I am sitting down with Ray Porter, the narrator of Andy Weir's audiobook project, Hail Mary Massive Sci Fi adventure about survival and science and what happens when you wake up alone, very far from Earth.
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Cal Penn
I really had to make a decision because I caught myself getting that frog in my throat and starting to get teary as I'm narrating some of these sections and it's like, okay, yo, yo, yo, is this indulgent? And I really thought about it. I was like, no. At this point it would kind of be betraying the trust the author and the listener have in telling this story if I don't go through it. But there's places in this book that that deeply, emotionally affected me and I left it on the mic. That's great because it served the story. People will say like, oh my God, I cried at the end. It's like, yeah, dude, me too.
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Dan Patrick
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Dan Patrick
a big time actor now. Nate Borgetzi, old friend breadwinner. Opens today. Wow. I didn't. I never thought I'd introduce you as movie star but well, congratulations.
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Danny Patrick
Thank you brother. Look at a decent 20558 going shorter. Non 511. Don't put that. I know dude, it's crazy. Look, I'm following your footsteps. I mean I wanted to know how did would you feel on opening weekends? Well be a wreck.
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Dan Patrick
Sandler would make me nervous because he would always say danny, you hearing anything? I go, you're in Hollywood, Sandler. But I remember when the totals for the first weekend of Longest Yard came out and it was like 80 million and Sandler was relieved in because I don't know if you're going to have joy or relief, let's say on Sunday or Monday when you get that first weekend box office numbers.
- [37:50]
Danny Patrick
I mean it both. Well depends on. Yeah, I guess it really depends. I don't know. Those are the two things they're going to be joy, relief or jump off a building. So it's one of the ones. I guess that's the relief part.
- [38:07]
Dan Patrick
Main difference between stand up and acting.
- [38:13]
Danny Patrick
The preparation. I mean the pressure is stand up. But it's you, you do it over time because you're doing so many shows so you're saying the same stuff and you're kind of putting in words and here and there and changing little things and you get to do it over. Especially before you say the special. So there's a. Where a movie is like it's this day. It's the scene they jump around in a movie. I mean they told me that, you know when I first came. Like it's like, you know, you don't shoot a movie in order which I kind of knew. But then it's Great. Like our, you know, the first day you're doing some scene that's at the end of the movie and you're. It was wild. I thought, why would you not just shoot it in order? But I guess they know what they're doing.
- [38:56]
Dan Patrick
But are you. So you. You don't have that immediate reaction when you do your stand up, but are you looking for reaction from the crew, camera people? Like, you need. You need that. You're used to that feedback.
- [39:11]
Danny Patrick
Oh, dude, I'll walk to catering to see if they heard the joke I just said. I mean, I'll go.
- [39:17]
Dan Patrick
I'll go walk.
- [39:18]
Danny Patrick
It's brutal because you say something and then no one can laugh. And then, you know, right when you get done, the crew could be really good about it sometimes too, because they can then laugh, like after. So you're like, but I mean, yes, sometimes I will. I would walk outside of bed. You see that? You hear that. You're just constantly doing that. That's a pretty good joke, right? And everybody's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. They say, yeah. And you're like, okay, because I poured my heart out there on that one.
- [39:45]
Dan Patrick
But it's different than the audience that's showing up. They're ready to laugh. The guys on the crew aren't showing up ready to laugh. They have to do their job.
- [39:54]
Danny Patrick
No, they do. And. But that's the heart that's been the hardest thing is because it's, you know, we started taping last summer, which is. Which is relatively quick for a movie to come out, you know, But I mean, like, I can't imagine, like when people are waiting three years or something for a movie to come out. Like, just having to sit there being like, what's going to happen? Like, you know, I mean, yeah, that's been the hardest part. But I mean, luckily I've shows this weekend, so I've been doing shows and so trying to at least hearing some laughs.
- [40:33]
Dan Patrick
We're talking to Nate Bargett. See the Movie is the Breadwinner opens today. He's encouraging theaters to charge a significantly reduced Nate rate to make going to see it more affordable. Also, upcoming tour dates, Knoxville, Birmingham, Savannah, Greensboro, Fort Worth, Houston, Austin, Phoenix, San Jose, and San Diego. How much did you write of this movie?
- [40:58]
Danny Patrick
A lot of it's like with my stand up. So I would say it's like it was like a mix of just, you know, almost like my stand up and a lot of stuff just went through it. And then Dane Lagana would go and, you know, kind of put it all Together. But, I mean, Logana definitely was the one that had to sit. And he has written scripts and all that, so he sat and did that. So it's. But it's heavily. You know, there's a lot of stuff in there that's like, kind of from my stand up. And then we kind of molded it together. But Dan definitely had to do more of the heavy lifting on the writing part of it. It was nice to write it because I could control what I say. Like, there's no crying. I wasn't gonna. You know, I wasn't putting any kind of, like, thing that I was like, I don't look like an idiot. You know, like, no crying. I was trying to do no, like, big laughing for me. Like, I didn't know if I could fake that. So I was very.
- [42:01]
Dan Patrick
Well, Let me hear. Let me hear your fake laugh.
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Danny Patrick
You already heard it earlier.
- [42:07]
Dan Patrick
Oh, thank you. Thank you, God. That's. Here's mine,
- [42:13]
Danny Patrick
Dan. That's what I heard all night when I. When I saw you in New York.
- [42:17]
Dan Patrick
That's true. You could hear me fake laughing all the time.
- [42:20]
Danny Patrick
I was. That's all I heard from the crowd. I go, loves it. That's what I called my mom when I got off stage. I go, dan loved it.
- [42:28]
Dan Patrick
Nate was killing it out there. Who tells you when. When you're not funny?
- [42:35]
Danny Patrick
My daughter. My daughter is quick to it and tell me it's not funny. She always go, well, that's an adult joke. I mean, she's. Now you're like, well, you're 13. You get. And then I'll get defensive. I go, you get the idea of why people would like it won't you? Like, you know, like, it's brutal with comics. Comics are not. They can laugh, but comics can very much be. They just stare at you and they'll be like, yeah, dude, that's great. Like, Conan. Conan o' Brien talked about that one time. Isn't exactly that. You tell a joke to a comic and I'll do it to you. Someone tell, I'm not a great laugh, Red. And sometimes they joke. I. You could tell me a joke and I'll be like, that's the best joke I've ever heard in my life. And it'll be that. It sounds like I hate you, but I'm honestly like, that's the. I'm like, that's the best joke I've ever heard.
- [43:27]
Dan Patrick
But I hate when somebody goes, oh, that's funny. And I'll go, yeah, then why didn't you laugh? I don't want you to say, oh, that's funny. Well, funny to me is laughing.
- [43:39]
Danny Patrick
Yeah, I mean, I do do that, too. Where I go, that's funny. And then it depends on look in this tone. If you're like, oh, that's funny, man. Like, as a comic, that would be. It's really funny. If you're talking to somebody else, you're like, oh, that's funny. You say a little bit quicker. That's. They don't think it's funny. It's like, what do you want them to do? They got to get out of the situation. So they just go, it's funny. And then they're trying to get to the door.
- [44:06]
Dan Patrick
I always wondered about how, you know, musicians get to play the same songs over and over and over. Billy Joel can play, you know, Piano man till he's a 100 Springsteen, but how often can you bring something back on a new tour, not your current tour? Because I know you're doing pretty much same thing every night.
- [44:26]
Danny Patrick
Yeah, look, if I had it as easy as Billy Joel, it'd be nice. I'm joking. That's a real joke.
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Dan Patrick
Oh, sorry.
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Danny Patrick
Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
Oh, that's funny.
- [44:38]
Danny Patrick
Yeah. If I had it as easy as Bruce Springsteen, brother, I would be easy. Yeah, you can't. It's the hard part is it leaves your mind, you know, do you probably had this, like, sport. Do you have, like, any, like, so many sports where everybody's like, did you enjoy that, like, finals or whatever that you were able to go to? And you're like, I don't remember going. Because you kind of just have to keep. You're doing so much stuff that's, like, kind of crazy. So you kind of got to keep moving. And it's like that with stand up, like, once, Once I get done. Tape it a special. Which Fort Worth, next week, I'm taping my special. And so once I get done taping it, it's like my brain is on, like, panic mode to find a new. To build a new hour. And then once you shed an old thing, it gets pretty hard to remember it. Like, I couldn't do it. I don't. I would have to go listen to my last special to see if I could do a joke from there. I couldn't do one off top because I, I. It just. You got to, like, empty your brain so you can get new stuff in there.
- [45:47]
Dan Patrick
Any actors, comedians, you sought advice on doing this movie?
- [45:53]
Danny Patrick
Yeah, I talked it. Well, it was. It was cool. So I got to talk to. I did talk to Sandler we're at SNL 50. I was able to talk to him, and he was. He was very wonderful about it. Like, just, you know, saying, you know, just. He's like, just be there every day, just so you can see what's going on and all this, like, the big ones. Wahlberg was someone that I got to know and able to talk to him some about it. But I had Kumail Najiani on in the movie, and he was. He's someone I started comedy with. So, like, my first day he was there, which was nice because it's like, I know him and, you know, it was just. He's just very. He's very positive. Very, you know, going like, that's great. It's great. It's all this. So, I mean, you would like him. I would have. And Colin Jost also is so funny in it. And Colin was, you know, Colin would come and he gets. He. I mean, he's, you know, he's a writer. So, like, he comes in and, like, would have, like, lines. He would text me, like, hey, I thought about this. You could say in the movie, like, just extremely helpful. Keep thinking about it on the outside. You know, even when he wasn't on set, he would think about it just to, you know, any of the lines, any stuff he can make better. But, yeah, I went to relying on those guys and just. I put myself around people I know, and then like, Mandy and the girls, the daughters we have in it are so good, and they became like sisters on set. And I think that helps. Like, once you, you know, once they. They feel like they're sisters, so then it helps you feel like their dad because they're just. You're around them so much, and they're very fun.
- [47:39]
Dan Patrick
Could you see yourself doing a love scene?
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Danny Patrick
I mean, not. Right. I don't think. Not, like, I don't think, like, you know, not White Lotus, though. I don't see it going.
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Dan Patrick
You know, it would be extremely White Lotus.
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Danny Patrick
It would be extremely. Dan, I think you've been edgier than I will be in a movie, so.
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Dan Patrick
Yo.
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Rob Parker
I know that.
- [48:02]
Dan Patrick
But I. I. Sandler just. He tries to put me in the most awkward positions, and he thinks it's funny.
- [48:09]
Danny Patrick
And.
- [48:10]
Dan Patrick
And I'm. I'm a fool. And I go, okay, I'll do that Sandman. And then, you know, like, he had me.
- [48:17]
Danny Patrick
We all love it.
- [48:18]
Dan Patrick
He had me kiss. What was her name? What was her name?
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Rob Parker
Paul Wendy McClendon.
- [48:24]
Dan Patrick
Yeah, Kobe McClendon. And. And I. It wasn't in the script. Nate and I show up on set, and my. My daughter was working as a runner on the set, and all of a sudden, Sandler goes, danny, Danny, why don't you kiss her? She was my wife in the movie.
- [48:41]
Danny Patrick
Yeah.
- [48:42]
Dan Patrick
And I go, it's not. It's not in the script, Sandman. He goes, I know, Danny. Just. I want you to kiss her. So I kiss her. My daughter walks by, and she's mortified. We get done with the scene, and she goes, are you gonna tell Mom? I go, yes, I'm gonna tell Mom. And I said to Sandman, I said, what. What was. He goes, danny, it's acting. I said, okay. I mean, I. I kept saying, let's do more takes. I mean, I don't know if that was unprofessional.
- [49:08]
Danny Patrick
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I always would like to say, you go, if you're like. Even if you're not gonna kiss, you go, let's just get it on tape. And so we have it, and then we'll see what happens. But it's. Yeah, it felt like this day, the first day I had to kiss Mandy. And I mean, we kiss, like, kiss her, like a little kiss your wife when you go goodbye. Like, you know, it wasn't like anything big, but my wife, of course, comes that day. And then you're like that boy. And then it was funny. We went to the premiere, and so my wife. My daughter is sitting with us this day, and then they kiss on, you know, shows, the kiss in the movie. And then my wife. My daughter leans over to my wife, and she goes, you jealous?
- [49:55]
Dan Patrick
I have. I use tongue, though, in my scene. That was. That was probably unprecedented. Yeah. Very method.
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Rob Parker
Yeah.
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Danny Patrick
Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
Daniel. Daniel Day Lewis Patrick. That's me.
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Danny Patrick
Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
All right, so the breadwinner, big movie star, Nate Bargetzi. And it's open today, and he's encouraging the rate, so. So he has a good weekend where he can exhale and he can be very proud. And you can see him on the road as well. Knoxville, Birmingham, Savannah, Greensboro, Fort Worth, Houston, Austin, Phoenix, San Diego, San Jose. He'll come to your backyard. He'll. He'll perform anywhere. That's.
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Danny Patrick
Hey, I expect you to be at all those shows, too.
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Brian Rolapp
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Dan Patrick
Oh, are you going to go to Tahoe again this year?
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Danny Patrick
I am. Are you all going to be there?
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Dan Patrick
Yep. Yep.
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Danny Patrick
All right, I'll see you at Tahoe.
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Dan Patrick
Good luck this weekend, dude.
- [50:47]
Danny Patrick
I appreciate it, man. Thanks for having me, as always. I love you guys.
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Dan Patrick
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