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LaVar Arrington
Oh yeah, it is the Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. He's lavar Arrington. That guy's Brady Quinn. I'm Jonas Knox in for Dan and the Guys, you can hear us weekday mornings before the Dan Patrick show on fox Sports Radio, 6:00am Eastern Time, 3:00 clock Pacific for a little something we do called two pros and a cup of Joe. But we will be taking you all the way for the next three hours here in for Dan and the guys and a friendly reminder that we are brought to you by Panini America. The hottest rookies, biggest superstars and all time greats. The only place to collect them all is Panini trading cards, the official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show. For instant classics, autograph cards, memorabilia cards, rare inserts and more. Start or continue your collection now@panini America.net so how the hell we feeling here, boys?
Jonas Knox
Good.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah.
Jonas Knox
Great day. Yep.
Brady Quinn
Yeah, There it is.
LaVar Arrington
Yes.
Unidentified Guest
There it is.
Brady Quinn
Yes.
Jonas Knox
Happy Monday.
Brady Quinn
I did, I did have one of those this weekend.
Jonas Knox
Oh, wow. Really?
Brady Quinn
Oh yeah.
Jonas Knox
Oh yeah. I did too. I had, I had quite a few actually. Did you. Oh my gosh. We went through, we went to Hermosa to our usual Mexican spot on Sunday.
Brady Quinn
Did you almost break your neck again?
Jonas Knox
I was just in my head like, yes, yes.
Brady Quinn
I'm still waiting for you to send a voice note.
LaVar Arrington
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Jonas Knox
Like there was that. There was a moment where that. I swear there were these. They, they had to been twins and they were old. They weren't, they were not young people. They were old. And I was like, holy moly. They have to be former volleyball, current volleyball. Oh yeah, enthusiasts. Yeah. They came walking in there long and strong.
Brady Quinn
Man, he's back.
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Jonas Knox
Not really. Not. My eyes, my eyes will never. Hey, look, look, look. You gotta, you gotta be able to read and react. My eyes will. As, as long as the good Lord above feels it fit for my eyes to work. They will work. They will work.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah.
Jonas Knox
Just won't get carried away. But I was in my head like, yes.
LaVar Arrington
Well, hey man, the weather's starting to. Starting to warm up.
Jonas Knox
Yes, it is. I've never really frequent that area when it was warm out. I've always, you know, the few times that we started, it's been in the winter time. So I'm pretty curious as to what full out, full blown summer looks like on that little boardwalk area. You know, only imagine. Nah, I don't want to imagine. I just, I'm curious.
LaVar Arrington
All right. You know what was this weekend though?
Jonas Knox
The clubs?
LaVar Arrington
Augusta National.
Jonas Knox
Yeah. God, you too, Mark.
Brady Quinn
Every time.
Jonas Knox
You too, huh? This is the last time I have to hear the, the, the wake music though. Everybody. Until next year, everyone out there that's listening that are Dan Patrick listeners. I call this at the Wake music by him. Him did this song at the wake.
LaVar Arrington
You know who wrote this song?
Jonas Knox
I don't know. I don't know. But this is the viewing like you and you're in the funeral home, you're saying hi to everyone. Good to see you. Haven't seen you in 20 years. It's great to see you. That was a fine person. Then you go up to the box and you look in the box and you say your final goodbyes. That's this music.
Brady Quinn
You know I've got your answer.
Jonas Knox
By the way, who is it who
Brady Quinn
we got the iconic master golf tournament. Them song titled Augusta was written and recorded by singer songwriter Dave loggin back in 1981.
LaVar Arrington
Oh, related to Kenny?
Jonas Knox
Yeah, there you go.
LaVar Arrington
All right.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, it's his cousin. Third cousin, though.
LaVar Arrington
Where'd he go, Dave?
Jonas Knox
Third cousin on his daddy side.
LaVar Arrington
What were those royalties looking like?
Brady Quinn
Hey, by the way, he actually is the cousin of Kenny Log.
LaVar Arrington
All right, there you go. Highway to the danger zone.
Jonas Knox
There you go.
LaVar Arrington
Nice.
Brady Quinn
They couldn't be further apart, by the way. Ones get you jacked, go in a fighter jet to go fight.
Jonas Knox
The other ones came down.
LaVar Arrington
I think Kenny Loggins did the what's. Why, why am I blanking on the Caddyshack theme song? So Kenny Loggins did that one as well, too. So very, very golf centric. Are those Loggins boys? Good for them, man.
Brady Quinn
All right, now, anyone have any problems with Rory winning the Masters?
LaVar Arrington
No, I mean, I didn't.
Jonas Knox
Jonas is a hater and he's going to find a way to. To devalue the fact that his guy that he picked out of the hat one.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah.
Jonas Knox
I wanted Rory, by the way.
Brady Quinn
I wanted the favor.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah. For people that don't know on our show was the favorite. We draw names out of a hat and then that's how we determine who's going to win the Masters or who we're going to be rooting for to win the Masters. I pulled Rory. I didn't think he could go back to back. Uh, I didn't. I sure surely didn't think he could potentially go wire to wire even though he coughed up the lead. Six shot lead going into the weekend. But cough it up. I mean, congratulations. Scotty Scheffler's unbelievable. And I knew once. Scotty. What? Hey, what happened?
Jonas Knox
Yeah, thanks, Mark.
LaVar Arrington
Dave.
Jonas Knox
Thanks. Thanks, Mark.
LaVar Arrington
Hey, Dave, you're still playing.
Jonas Knox
Oh, God.
LaVar Arrington
Jesus.
Jonas Knox
Really?
LaVar Arrington
If that was Kenny, he would have continued on.
Jonas Knox
Mark, come on, man.
LaVar Arrington
We got the Wrong Loggins. But when Scotty Scheffler missed.
Jonas Knox
Don't let Jonas bully you.
Unidentified Guest
Missed the.
LaVar Arrington
I think it was like his third straight birdie attempt. I think on 17, you could tell he knew. Yeah, it's a big one. That that was going to cost him, and ultimately lost by a stroke.
Brady Quinn
I think one of the things that I appreciate the most about that tournament, I mean, one, it's the same course. It's pristine. We've talked about all that. Also, there's a big scoreboard on 17. So when you're walking up, you know exactly where you are and where you need to be. So as he's approaching 17, like, Scotty knows what he needs to do. And on top of that, for Rory, when he gets there, he's got an idea of where they're at, too. Now, you can always say, hey, people might be, you know, telling them what the scores are at or keeping him aware of it. But it's another thing, too, to kind of look up, see the scoreboard, see who's kind of marching in behind, because you did get a sense that one point. I want to say it was maybe after 12 or 13 that Scotty had a shot and he was making a run. It would have been interesting to see what Rory would have done or responded if Scotty could have tied it up, got even closer. I think he got closest within one shot, maybe.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah. Yeah.
Jonas Knox
One shot and not enough. No, I thought it was here. Here were my takeaways. The. The fact that Rory joined three other. Three other golfers, major golfers, and Nicholas Fo and. And obviously Eldrick. Only four players.
LaVar Arrington
Eldrick.
Brady Quinn
Yeah, you better include Taunt if you're going to conclude.
Jonas Knox
Eldrick, taunt. Eldrick taunt Woods.
LaVar Arrington
You better include Waymo next time.
Jonas Knox
And Waymo, Eldrix, Eldrick's arch nemesis. Somebody that's going to get him home safely on the road. They actually are the only ones that ever repeat at Augusta, which led me to my. My next takeaway, which was the fact that Rory had to come into this. This situation, knowing what the pressure was to. To obviously repeat, be a completionist of. Of the. The grand. Grand Grand Slams. I thought it was pretty interesting because the mental. I can only imagine as a football player, former football player, the. The stress and. And, like, feelings you have mentally before a game, how that feels, especially the bigger the games get. But you're by yourself in golf, right? It's you versus the course is you versus your equipment. It's you versus your swing is you versus it's just so many different things that you got to take into consideration. And the fact that he managed it in a way where having such a dominant start, but then eventually almost giving it away. I mean, like we said, he only won by. By one stroke. So I thought that was pretty impressive.
Brady Quinn
And.
Jonas Knox
And listen, I. I watched it, but I didn't watch it right. Like, I had it on, but it's just. I don't know. It feels like this music. If it feels like I should have this music playing when I'm watching it.
LaVar Arrington
I think the most noteworthy bit about Rory winning this weekend was the fact that he was able to overcome that awful Masters dinner that he put together. Awful. I mean, and. And way to take a shot at Ireland, you know, and say, well, you know, I wanted them to enjoy it, too. That's why I didn't include any Irish dishes. It's just disrespectful. But he was able to persevere, and next thing you know, he's got the green jacket yet again. So congratulations to Roy.
Brady Quinn
So I do want to bring to light one thing, and this is probably one of the things that a lot of the haters had an issue with. So Mark or Patty. Patty. Sweet, if you could. There's some sound after Warrior, I believe, was already up at that. Minus 12. Mark. Maybe after day two or day three, if you could play it.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, as long as we take this music off.
LaVar Arrington
Come on. Dave's in his. In his groove right now.
Jonas Knox
You talk like you know him. Is he even still alive?
LaVar Arrington
Dave Loggins?
Jonas Knox
Yeah.
Unidentified Guest
I honestly just don't like the three tournaments leading up to this event. Yeah, I. I'd rather come up here. You know, I. I did a couple of days where I dropped Poppy to school, flew up here, played, landed back home and had dinner with her or had dinner with Eric. And probably, like, I did a couple of day trips like that where I felt like that was a better use of my time than going to Houston or San Antonio. So wasn't really about conserving energy, but I just. I felt, you know, the more time I could spend up here, the better.
Brady Quinn
All right, so this is the issue that some purists, some people have with it, is you're a part of the PGA Tour, yet you're gonna take off, you know, a few weeks ahead of time, basically, to prepare for the majors, and. And I guess golf's unique in the sense that we oftentimes don't remember guys who win a lot of tournaments. We remember guys who win a lot of the big Four. Right. All of the major tournaments, like, that's what we, like, remember the most for. That's what their legacies are built off of. And I think there's some people who feel like it's a bit unfair if he's able to pull himself out of these other tournaments and then has access, has the ability to just essentially prepare for a major like this. I mean, I look at and just say, I'm not really sure there's an equivalent in any other professional sport where you could do something like this. Maybe you'd say it would be like joining an NFL team, you know, in the AFC Championship game and playing a game or two, or maybe just a Super bowl and getting a ring. Like, maybe that's the equivalent of how you'd look at this. But.
LaVar Arrington
Oh, Eric.
Brady Quinn
I tend to think, what's that?
LaVar Arrington
Eric Weddle?
Jonas Knox
It's even a little different than that, though, because if you're preparing for a golf. A golf outing, you get to prepare against the course. Now, maybe you don't know, the. The weather conditions could be different, but the terrain of it, most likely. I mean, obviously, like, the curves and the bends and all that stuff like that. I mean, that's. You get to prepare for something. Like, if it's the NFL, it's by who wins.
LaVar Arrington
Right.
Jonas Knox
So you really. If you think about it, you would. What do you say, like, two to three weeks to prepare? Is that what he was saying?
Brady Quinn
Yeah, and like I said, he was. And by the way, not a lot of other golfers have the ability to necessarily do that, either the access or just the. The ability to kind of do whatever they want. And. And he's one of the few that does right now because he's been such a big piece of basically keeping the PGA Tour together, in particular during a time where you were having guys plucked away by the live tour. He is. He has stood. He's kept. Yeah, he's kept the whole thing together to the point where now, pg. The PGA Tour has been able to survive. So I. I just. I look at it. I look at it, and I just say to myself, you know, this is one of those instances where I don't have an issue with it. I think the course sets up well for Rory. I thought he looked more relaxed. He's played probably his best golf in a major event compared to years past, because he did feel like he had that monkey on his back. And once he got it off last year, it looked like he's finally playing up to capabilities.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, I thought. I thought it was Interesting, because when you get to that one stretch, what they. They said the 12th, 13th, for. For him, where he birdied birdie back to back. And then the idea of it is that's that moment where do you. Do you stop the bleeding or do you. Or do you bleed out and. And let the field catch you and run. Run over you? And then next thing you know is like, hey, you know, he won the last one. It's no big deal. Keep it moving. That's what takes place.
LaVar Arrington
Are you golf guy?
Jonas Knox
No, I'm really not a golf guy.
LaVar Arrington
Come on.
Jonas Knox
I'm not a golf guy. But anyway, he did pull himself together. He did get it right. And all is close.
Fox Sports Radio Announcer
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Jonas Knox
As close as it was. Oh, no.
Brady Quinn
Yes. No.
LaVar Arrington
By the way, Dave Loggins passed away in 2024.
Jonas Knox
Way to rub it in. There you go. I'm just saying, he's talking like you was on the phone.
Brady Quinn
He's in studio, Jonas. Well, I mean, what are you talking about?
LaVar Arrington
I mean, you know, since he passed.
Jonas Knox
Music. Dave's keeping it going.
LaVar Arrington
I mean, the music works.
Brady Quinn
Yeah, Dave, what up?
Jonas Knox
What up, Dave?
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Brady Quinn
By the way, this is one of our favorite things to do on two pros and a Cup of Joe is set Jonas up for failure by basically allowing him to say something about someone who we know is not alive.
LaVar Arrington
That's all right.
Jonas Knox
You should see this man's toupee on the 700 Club right now. Oh, is that Pat Robinson's son? Because he sure enough has his head like, jeez, Monetti. 700 Club took a new meaning. 700 pennies in your head. Why is his head so big? All right, anyways, back to golf. We had a hole in one.
LaVar Arrington
Sure did.
Jonas Knox
There was a hole in one.
LaVar Arrington
We sure did.
Jonas Knox
How about it?
LaVar Arrington
Yeah, sure did.
Jonas Knox
Took place.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah, it was nice. The weather didn't have an impact on it. There was no rainy days or. Or anything like that to worry about. And, you know, people just gotta sweat their ass off in Georgia and watch some high quality golf.
Jonas Knox
There was almost a 25 year old, that one. Baby age, young age, money man. He almost won it. Yeah. And guess what his. Now his last name happens to be.
LaVar Arrington
What's that?
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Jonas Knox
Oh, Cam, how about it? Yeah, how about it, man? So, you know, there were. There were some interesting storylines connected to. To the golf outing. Wasn't all boring. Yeah, well, Rory went in, though. Was. Was that. I mean, I. Obviously, I made it very clear I would have liked to have pulled Rory out of the hat. I didn't, but it's A Jonas Knox show to everybody out there that's listening. Like me and Brady are merely contributors and support to Jonas, the big star of the show. And, well, when Joni Links. And when Joni Links picked. Picked his player, you know, his, his new and very, very cooperative show producer made sure that he got Rory McElroy. Yeah, that's just how it worked.
LaVar Arrington
Brady gave me that moniker years ago. We were talking golf and he's a man, you know, your stuff called me Joni Links.
Brady Quinn
No, what I recall is back when we used to have a guest that would come on named Live Bet Jesus, he find a way, like for example, of live betting, I don't know, the Masters with Rory before his final putt on 18. That's correct. Basically, he'd bet him to win it. Those would be the type of odds that typically Live Bad Jesus would. Would take place. And it's, it's eerily similar to how Jonas bets. Jonas tries to get the favorites. There's never really a lot of value in a lot of his picks. He's just purely looking for anything he can try to hang his hat on and somehow he still loses that often.
LaVar Arrington
Oh, I'm not really.
Brady Quinn
Oh, I'm not really sure how that happens.
Jonas Knox
Oh, I. Rory would have lost if Live Bet Jesus bet on him winning that.
LaVar Arrington
I live. I live Scotty Scheffler yesterday.
Jonas Knox
Oh, there you go.
LaVar Arrington
Literally four minutes later, he misses a putt.
Jonas Knox
Well, there you go.
LaVar Arrington
If I bet. If I bet a horse who had a two length lead to win the Kentucky Derby, he would lose it by three. He'd get hit by a sniper before he got to the finish line. I can't win a bet. It's shocking.
Jonas Knox
Look at that.
Brady Quinn
You're gonna be walking in to work one day fully nude because you're not gonna have any shirt on your back at this point.
LaVar Arrington
That's all right. You know, trying to set an example of our.
Brady Quinn
Is going to look over at you and say, what happened?
Jonas Knox
No, Patty.
Brady Quinn
Patty's going to give you his hat. It's going to cover up your entire body.
Jonas Knox
I will not be doing the show. I will not be doing the show.
Brady Quinn
Patty, no hat today, buddy.
Jonas Knox
Ow. By the way, happy belated happy birthday, Patty. Yeah. How was your dinner?
LaVar Arrington
No Hattie Patty.
Jonas Knox
No Hattie Patty. I like that. Oh, it was really good dinner, though, guys. Was it?
LaVar Arrington
Yeah.
Jonas Knox
Honestly, Delilah's was a 10 out of 10. Is that right?
LaVar Arrington
I said you went to Arby's.
Jonas Knox
What?
Brady Quinn
I didn't say you went to Arby's. I thought you maybe had roast beef at some point.
Jonas Knox
Some chipped beef. No, no. Got the meats. No, man. Had some. I had a lobster roll, had some pasta. Oh, come on.
Brady Quinn
You had some crustaceans.
Fox Sports Radio Announcer
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Brady Quinn
Someone's trying to set the mood there, huh?
LaVar Arrington
Did you get on that liver lube a little bit? Yeah. A little bit, yeah.
Jonas Knox
Had some wine?
Brady Quinn
A little bit. This sounds romantic. Now, hold on, hold on. Patty, who'd you go with?
Jonas Knox
Lorena.
Brady Quinn
Huh?
LaVar Arrington
Okay.
Jonas Knox
Who else?
Brady Quinn
Just me and her, all right?
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Jonas Knox
Oh, really?
Brady Quinn
What? And now, had you been to Delilah's before?
LaVar Arrington
No, that's.
Brady Quinn
That would be a first for me.
LaVar Arrington
Who.
Jonas Knox
Who chose Delilah's? Lorena, actually.
LaVar Arrington
What?
Jonas Knox
No. No reason. I did tell y'. All.
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Jonas Knox
Delilah, She's a man eater, biblically speaking. You do know what Delilah represents in the Bible, right?
Brady Quinn
In the 1920s.
Jonas Knox
The 1920s. That's the theme of that restaurant. Nah, bro, if you don't know, you're going to be a victim before you're a victim. Victimization is even better to witness. That's all I'm saying. I don't know what you're talking about. Go read the Bible. Look up the line.
Brady Quinn
I just hope you had a happy birthday, buddy.
Jonas Knox
And you're strong. You're built strong. Like you can push columns down with no eyes in your head, right? Burnt out. Don't worry about it. It's over your head.
Brady Quinn
He's getting biblical on.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, yeah. Don't worry about it, though, man. You do look like a strong young man, bro.
Brady Quinn
I'm pretty sure. Anything you'd like to add there, Jonas?
LaVar Arrington
Jonas
Brady Quinn
starts just to try to backpedal out of the situation. Well, he's like, let me get to a read here.
Unidentified Guest
Yeah.
LaVar Arrington
Hey.
Jonas Knox
Hey.
LaVar Arrington
I just hope he had a good time, you know? I just. That's.
Brady Quinn
I'm sure he did.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah.
Jonas Knox
Wow. Well, it was a great time. Oh, okay. Come in after we go to break. Please.
LaVar Arrington
Come.
Jonas Knox
Come to the studio immediately upon the break.
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Jonas Knox
Shouts out to Larae Ray, too, by the way. We're joking. We're having a good time with it, Larray. She's a good egg.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah. Coming up next, though, we're going to tell you about another good egg in the world of sports, a rarity for one league. That's yours right here on fsr.
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Unidentified Guest
I am ready to go to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. And I feel like I'm on the clock. I get ready to pack pretty soon.
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We're going to talk about some of the intriguing prospects in this year's draft. For me, the top one is Jeremiah Love. I think he is a game changer. He's probably going to be a top five pick, which is really rare for running backs in today's game.
Unidentified Guest
You promised me he's not going to go to that red team in the. In my favorite team's division.
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Unidentified Guest
We got to make sure he doesn't go to that red team.
Brady Quinn
For your sake.
Miller Lite Advertiser
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Unidentified Guest
We can't have that.
Miller Lite Advertiser
But. But we will see for you on a personal level, you want to see him go to a team before the ninth pick.
Unidentified Guest
I want him to get picked now, before, even before the drift. I want. I want someone to give him a bag and do whatever they have to do that. If he's not, I want him to be picked ahead of Mendoza, which I know is basically impossible. But yes, he's got to be picked in the top five or top eight, whatever it is, as long as it's before KC does.
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Unidentified Guest
Yeah.
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Where he can, he can beat you in a couple of different ways. One more guy that intrigues me because of his combine workout is Sonny Styles, the linebacker.
Unidentified Guest
Why is that?
Miller Lite Advertiser
He just looked like an Adonis out there. But to me, that can be a little scary because you're looking more at his measurables more so than the game tape. You know, he's a monster. But I'm just trying to look at the game tape to see what you actually did during the games, not how you measure and not how high you get.
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LaVar Arrington
It is the Dan Patrick show here on fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys. You can hear us weekday mornings before the dan Patrick Show, 6:00am Eastern Time, 3:00 clock Pacific for something we do called Two Pros and a cup of
Jonas Knox
Joe
LaVar Arrington
Monday through Friday here and, and chew.
Jonas Knox
He needs help, man.
LaVar Arrington
I don't know why D. I'm trying to get you out of retirement.
Jonas Knox
What do you mean he needs. He needs your assist. He needs prayers. He needs all those things. Yeah.
LaVar Arrington
So for those of you like a little behind the scenes here, Brady and I have been on like a two week campaign to be a really bad influence on Lavar.
Jonas Knox
Horrible.
LaVar Arrington
And we're trying everything. We are trying everything.
Jonas Knox
It's ridiculous.
LaVar Arrington
And nothing has worked. Nothing is has taken two yet. So that could work.
Jonas Knox
Potentially that could work.
LaVar Arrington
But we are trying, which is probably. And by the way, you can check us out on YouTube. I want to want to be clear on that. 2 pros FSR on YouTube. You can watch us right now. You can see us waxing poetically here on this three hour journey as we take you all the way up until noon Eastern Time, 9 o' clock Pacific. Guys, we've got the very latest on the saga that continues involving and I don't know if you, I don't know if you're familiar with this, Diana Rossini and Mike Rabel Yeah. I'm not sure if you guys are familiar with that story, but here is the latest. Diana Rossini now under investigation by the Athletic. According to Mike Reese of espn, Mike Vrabel will now not take part in the pre draft press conference. And the whole little story that they gave everybody about friends were there, it was an innocent encounter, et cetera, et cetera that lasted for about 30 seconds before people realize, eh, this doesn't add up. And so now after the Athletic had Diana Rossini's back publicly and supported her publicly, now she will not be reporting. Her contract is also up this summer. So there's some speculation that maybe she is done reporting for them for good. And now Mike Rabel is going to go ahead and step away, which is probably the right move considering.
Jonas Knox
What do you mean step away?
LaVar Arrington
Well, he's not going to be a part of the.
Jonas Knox
Be very clear on that step away
LaVar Arrington
pre draft press conference.
Jonas Knox
He's not going to be a part of Diana Rousseini. Step away is away.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah.
Jonas Knox
Period.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah, yeah.
Jonas Knox
Not, not Mike, Mike Vrabel.
LaVar Arrington
Vrabel is going to not be a part of the pre draft, pre draft press conference. And anybody there. And look, he's, it's not like anybody's going to ask, hey, what do you guys think about the, the linebacker depth in this draft? No, they're going to want to know what happened on the rooftop in Sedona. That's what they're going to want to know. So probably a smart move for Mike Rabel, but the story that we were told and fed initially and he, the, the interview fart in church and here we are.
Jonas Knox
But just be clear that the interview that you're speaking of has already come and gone. Right. Like the, the story blew up and there's supposed to be an interview, a pre draft interview where Mike Vrabel maybe talk and highlights what it is that they're thinking about going into the draft. So you're talking about a scenario where if, if it was as open shut as the coach initially made it sound, there's no problem with you being in front of the cameras and I would rather the media hear me and see me say there's nothing there. Can we talk about the pre draft versus not doing the interview at all? And, and that to me, I feel like that creates more, more conversation behind everything that's being thrown out there. Then to me, I mean, it's going to happen either way. But don't change what you're doing is what I would say.
Brady Quinn
Well, let me just ask you.
Jonas Knox
This.
Brady Quinn
Does this work in today's society? Because I tend to lean. No. If something like this happens, I feel like you gotta get out in front of it. You have to do more than just say, it's laughable because it seems like there's too much smoke there. And pushing off a meeting with the media where you know you're going to be asked about it, and it only allows there to be more time where. What was the.
Jonas Knox
Is.
Brady Quinn
I don't know if it's the Athletic or the New York Times. They're now hiring an investigator to look into it further.
Jonas Knox
It's the Athletic. Athletic, but the Athletics are owned by the Times. Yeah. So go. So.
Brady Quinn
But the point is, it only allows for there to be more time for the story to get legs, drum up more of whatever was going on, dig deeper into all of this. And so to think that it's not going to come up again, you're going to be able to avoid it. It's impossible. Not. Not in today's news cycle. I think you talk to most PR firms and people who give advice on this, they'd say to get out ahead of it. Like, you're allowing other people now to control the narrative with speculation and more photos and more videos and everything else that comes from this. I mean, I can't tell you how many times I've been sent videos of Diana Rossini basically talking poorly about her husband, which leads to worth, you know, worth speculation. And the way she'll sound at times makes it seem like, like, yeah, maybe this is someone who was looking for something else, but. But not even to go down that road. Right. Because, like, the. The manner in which they're handling it. I think you knew that New York Times or the Athletic, whoever you want to point to, was going to do something, but with the patriot side of this, it's like, this isn't just going to go away. And so at some point, you have to stand up, you got to talk about it, and you're gonna have to make a statement about it in order to move past. And maybe you do, maybe you don't. You know, maybe it's always something that kind of hangs around, but that's the world we live in now. I just. I think kicking the can down the road doesn't work anymore.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah, I. I don't know how at some point he's gonna be asked about it, especially with that media and the way that this works. And just in general, I don't know how you avoid this. It seems unavoidable and the longer that it goes on, I would agree, the more that I think it's a bad look because people are just. It's going to build and build and build and build and build, and then finally they're going to get their opportunity and there's going to be one question and two questions. He already gets frustrated and flustered with the media to begin with. He's already a little bit of a red ass and a smart ass. And I just don't think there's any way around having to talk about this at some point.
Jonas Knox
Here's what has to happen. And I think within the investigation, what's being put out there is that Rossini has to clear up with the Athletic, the six other people that were there or supposedly there. And that could be the piece of information that kind of puts the story to bid or makes the story that much more real. Was that Cap, were there really six friends there? And if they were there, who are these six friends? Like, I think the burden of, of her being able to prove that this was literally a. A friends, a friend's deal where, listen, he's no more than a friend. And we became friends. However they became friends. They're all a friend group and she's a part of it, and they were there and that's what took place. If that's what's the story everybody is using, including the spouses, then the story goes away and the damage is done. But at least it's minimized for both Rossini and for Vrabel. I think the bigger point that has to be thrown out there, though, is that we are now in a moment of time where we just had a big situation take place at FS1, at Fox, and what took place there now, not too much further out from that, you have another situation along the same type of lines that now surfaces as well. So the, the conversation is ultimately going to be the integrity of sources and the sources that are connected to the. The publication. So the Athletic had to do this. The Athletic couldn't just say, we're going to stand on the fact that it's out of context. The pictures are the pictures. We support Diana Racine. You couldn't do that because now what's going to come into question is any type of inside information that comes. Comes out. And if that information comes from, let's just say, for the sake of saying, because of the conversation that comes from a woman, it's going to immediately be questioned, what is the relationship of this woman with that coach and what is the. The standard and and what is the. The. The credibility of the publication? It's coming from. Are you the New York Times or are you, you know, who did spin?
LaVar Arrington
Right.
Jonas Knox
Like, it's kind of like right now, journalistic integrity of. Of outlets is probably going to find themselves in question because of something like this in specific. No way around it.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah, I. I think that the more that whatever. Whatever they thought the initial statement was going to get them backfired to a degree that I don't think anybody saw coming, because then it dug up and brought up all of these old stories. You mentioned the comments about her husband, which, look, their relationship, whatever, that's. That's their business. But, you know, who cares if she's, you know, they're doing whatever they're doing on the side, then have fun and do what you got to do. It is the credibility aspect of it. It's the credibility portion of it that I think people look at, because they start to think about, well, you know, she did have a lot of stories of the Titans. Like, there was a lot of news that seemingly broke that she was a part of the A.J. brown trade and rumors that were out there. All, like, all of those things that I think now the Athletics looking at going, oh, wow, wait a second.
Jonas Knox
Oh, wow.
Brady Quinn
Okay, okay.
Jonas Knox
But, but.
Brady Quinn
But let me. Let me play devil's advocate without getting in too much trouble here. I mean, do we want to know how these insiders get all their information all the time?
LaVar Arrington
It's like, depends on who.
Brady Quinn
There's a double standard in different ways, in the sense that, you know, how some of the guys do it versus maybe how people think that maybe a woman might. Might do it. Whatever the case may be, if you are deemed as an insider, do people, like, they're born into the scoop? That's kind of part of your job, right?
Jonas Knox
Yeah.
Brady Quinn
I'm not trying to make. Jonas. I know you're smiling. You're smirking. I'm not trying to make a case of saying anything. I'm just saying from a professional standpoint, say something. I feel like people don't want to know how the meat's made. Like Jonas does. Like, some people don't want to know how the sausage is made.
Jonas Knox
Oh, God. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
LaVar Arrington
I think we know now
Jonas Knox
we know what happens to the sausage. We all want to know how it's made. We still don't want to know how it's made. We just know what happens to it. It's just.
Brady Quinn
Yeah.
LaVar Arrington
I mean, and. And look, there's. There's Other names that have been brought up, you know, other reporters that have been, you know, called in, called into question about, you know, how they get, you know, certain stories and whatnot, that all of a sudden they're catching. Catching strange.
Jonas Knox
Joina's name came up.
LaVar Arrington
What?
Jonas Knox
Joina Anderson's name came up. There's a Brit McHenry. Her name came up. Like, what's crazy is, is that that they're all D.C. people. I've been hearing this for years. Like, this goes back to when I was.
Brady Quinn
You were deep into it. You were deep into it in dc.
Jonas Knox
Hold on now. Hold on now.
Brady Quinn
I'm just saying.
Jonas Knox
Don't put me deep into it. I wasn't doing my work.
Brady Quinn
I'm sorry.
Jonas Knox
I. I mean, my integrity in that realm is at least okay. You.
Brady Quinn
You were.
Jonas Knox
You had your.
Brady Quinn
You had your hands full with that. Those sorts of situations in dc.
LaVar Arrington
Not my head.
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Jonas Knox
I was a spectator. I was a spectator of all of the gossip because I was in media, in dc. Yeah. There's more, too. There are more? Oh, yeah. Oh, it goes. It goes across. Across lines, categorical lines. Like, it goes into cheerleading. It goes into the media sales. It go. It. It was one big thing in D.C.
LaVar Arrington
is all I did get a kid.
Jonas Knox
That's what I'll leave it at.
LaVar Arrington
You saw there were some people over the weekend. I saw some stuff out there that, you know, we. We just don't feel like, you know, this is really any of our business to discuss. And, you know, we don't. We don't feel like this whole thing kind of grosses us. You're friends with Rossini. Just stop, okay? You would. If this was somebody else, you'd get in the mud, too. All right? If it was somebody else and the story was dirty, you would have gotten involved, too. It's just like this is calling in to question a lot of people's credibility with the actions and the way that it's being covered by people.
Jonas Knox
Does this. Fellas, does this damage insider reporting? Like, do you want. Like, are people going to be like, look at the cost of it being transactional? I don't care. Like, I'll get the information when I get it. How important is it to be able to scooped you? Like, I knew they were going to trade A.J. brown last week. They traded a A.J. brown today, and the report is coming out today. How important is that transaction to media? To what. What takes place? How. How important is it? I think that has to be the question because ultimately this is a category that was created for the sake of being able to say, like, we scooped somebody. News is very different and very difficult at this point in time, at this juncture, because technology has given athletes the opportunity to break news. So there's no real need to be a. A person that is a breaking news reporter. All you got to do is have your feed on. On, like, have your notifications on. AJ Brown says he wants out of Philadelphia. You don't have to get that from an interview. You. Diana Rossini says reports from the Athletic. A.J. brown wants to get a trade. No, it's going to come from somebody's social media.
Brady Quinn
You do for coaches, though. You know, you do for the organization.
Jonas Knox
Okay, that's fair. But again, how important is that? Is what I would say.
Brady Quinn
How important they're ultimately, they're in control. Right? Like, if an organization wants to move on from a player, whether the player wants to be there or not, I think we all know those.
LaVar Arrington
They'll.
Brady Quinn
They'll find ways of doing so. I think they're equally important, like player empowerment's important now with the platforms that they've got to be able to put people in check. I saw Travis Hunter tweeted at, I believe, Ian Rapaport maybe in regards to a report he made about, you know, what position he's going to play and when he'll be back healthy and everything he's been doing. And, you know, he's. He's asking, like, who told you that? Right, like, so it's, it's out there for everyone. But I do think it's mostly used by front offices, ownership groups and, and obviously head coaches because, you know, it's their way of. And we've seen this before too, how coaches go about getting the attention of players. Instead of just talking to them directly, they go to the media and they put pressure on. On players that way. And so it's no different than the front office leaking something out. They either put pressure on the player, his agent, or, you know, maybe it's just to kind of see how the fan base receives it, accepts it. Who was a bunch of different ways of doing it.
Jonas Knox
Who was it that just did the. The report from the front office? Person that was talking about Jalen Hurts. What was his name again?
LaVar Arrington
Jeff McLean.
Jonas Knox
McClain.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah.
Jonas Knox
Right. That's insider information. You didn't disclose who it was that gave you that information. It was said by what, someone internally
LaVar Arrington
that clearly, yeah, they, you. That they use the front office. It was, you know, implied that they use the front or they use the media to get through to Jalen Hurts.
Jonas Knox
Right. So to me, again, how important is that? But do we know today how accurate that report was? Do we know today what impact that is having on Jalen Hurts or A.J. brown or the Philadelphia Eagles, Nick Sirianni, whoever, Big Dom. Do we know what type of impact is being had with Jalen Hurts's horrible impact on what's going on internally with the. Do we even know how that. That's a true story?
LaVar Arrington
No, I think that story got dwarfed by Ravel and Rossini playing Marco Polo in Sedona. I think that's where things go.
Brady Quinn
I do think it is interesting. Like the point you brought up earlier, Lavar, some of this hangs around and is surrounded around us, like finding out who else was there.
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Brady Quinn
It's just.
Jonas Knox
Have we heard anything from them? No, that's the part is like, you
Brady Quinn
can't claim you're there with other people if there's no other people ever. Like, no one's came forward.
Jonas Knox
They put your boy Taylor Lawan and all of them with the knee pad, the knee brace on. You know that.
LaVar Arrington
So I was actually looking at. Do you know why you haven't heard from those other people?
Jonas Knox
Why?
LaVar Arrington
Because they didn't exist. That's why they weren't there. It's a BS story.
Jonas Knox
Well, again, got caught. And I think that that is why it was brought up and that was why it was brought to the conversation is if it is indeed not proven that there was a group of people there, and if those six people that you're talking about outside of you, which. Which I'm assuming makes eight, how many of those six people are male? How many of those six people are female? And. And I gotta be honest, what's the relationship dynamics that's connected to the people that are there?
LaVar Arrington
So.
Jonas Knox
So are these husband, boyfriends and girlfriends?
LaVar Arrington
What are the. What are the. What does the split need to be? Three male, three female?
Jonas Knox
No. Comfortable? No.
Brady Quinn
Because. Yeah, I feel like Lavar would be good at figuring this out.
Jonas Knox
I just. I just think, well, if it's six and you're eight, that you got to assume that that might. Might equate couples. That could equate couples if they're not careful and what the relationship dynamics are. But if you're talking about, okay, as a group of coaches or somebody from, you know, the, the media world, if it's different media or different work backgrounds or whatever that aren't connected, I, I think there's a lot of scrutiny that has to take place in terms of how you look at who they are to come up with what you deem. If I'm the athletic and I'm doing this investigation, what I deem is appropriate
LaVar Arrington
now is the pineapple pointing up or down?
Jonas Knox
If it's pointing down, if the top of the pineapple is pointing down, then obviously the glove has fit. And if the glove fits, you cannot equip.
LaVar Arrington
That's the case. You should get an extension.
Brady Quinn
I didn't think anyone's wearing gloves, but dang, Lavar, don't you have a shirt that's got upside down pineapple on it?
LaVar Arrington
He's got.
Jonas Knox
I had some Penn State shorts. I had some Penn State shorts on. I'm guilty. Is charged. Hey, it is what it is.
LaVar Arrington
Who's word of last week?
Jonas Knox
We all have things that we have to fight through, you know, hey, so,
Brady Quinn
so back to my initial question, like, if, if, if do you care with the insider how they get their information?
Jonas Knox
Again, that's the point. Do we care?
Brady Quinn
Do you care? I'm asking you guys, do you care?
Jonas Knox
I don't really care about insider information because until it becomes real, what is it like to be able to say I was the one that scooped it? Like, unless it's like, I hate to do it to him because he's on TV and I love him to death, but unless it's like something as big as Mantatteo, like, okay, insider scoop says that this. There. There's something.
LaVar Arrington
Why do you catch a spray?
Jonas Knox
Yeah, well, because I'm just talking about the story.
Brady Quinn
That's your linebacker brethren, that is.
Jonas Knox
I don't want to throw him under the disrespectful. I don't want to throw him under the bus. But I'm just saying, the problem is
Brady Quinn
everyone, ok, if you scoop that, if
Jonas Knox
you scoop that story. Come on now.
Brady Quinn
Maybe that's what we're doing here, is everyone's rushing to judgment and we don't have all the facts because then we saw a Netflix show come out. We're like, oh, like. And like you felt Notre Dame, folks. We were trying to tell you. You didn't want to listen. We're trying to tell you. We're like, this is a much deeper conversation.
Jonas Knox
So bad for Manta. But the damage had already been done.
Brady Quinn
Okay, so now there's gonna be a Netflix series out of this thing.
Jonas Knox
I don't think that this is big enough. Unless. Unless Mike Vrabel lost his job up. I hate to say it. The reality of it is, is that Rossini is more expendable in this scenario than Mike Vrabel. And people could take it however they want to take it. But the reality of it is is that Diana Rossini will be looking for a job, might already be looking for a job, might be damaged goods based on the. The level of this story. So now what it is that she does and she does very well, by the way. Diana Rossini is a, is reporter at what she does and she does get inside information and is able to just, you know, disseminate it. She's one of their highest paid employees. And now she's not going to have the ability to be able to do that. And she's considered to be radioactive there. She's going to have to do it on her own. She's going to have to create a podcast and do it on her own. Look at Joy Taylor. She leaned into it and it's working for her. But she's quiet. It's quiet, though. Though. It's quiet. It's not. You don't have the. As big a microphone as. As she had before, a megaphone that she had before. So I think it's a big story. I think it's Netflix worthy. I think it's big as hell. Peanut butter skin and them big old cans. If Mike Vrabel loses his job over this or gets suspended over this, then and then now that further goes back into Pandora's box because your owner was at, at Asian orchids and or of Asia. Oh, yeah, but like getting rubbed out, like getting, getting them kinks rubbed out and getting like the sword spots rubbed out of them. And now that's going to come back to light. That's going to be discussed and talked about. There's a whole lot of fallout that comes out if Mike Rabel is hit by this Diana Racini, unfortunately for her, not so much.
LaVar Arrington
Super bowl hangover is a real thing. It is Team lose the super bowl just doesn't seem to go right.
Jonas Knox
Maybe they should have thought about that.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah, should have.
Jonas Knox
Diana should have really thought about it because I feel like she had more to lose in this. She had a lot to gain. But I think if this turns out to be what people are saying it is and she can't get another gig because of what she was doing and that's what it's based off of. She had way more to lose in this scenario than the Mike Vrabel did.
LaVar Arrington
She said.
Brady Quinn
I do think it's interesting that the athletic came out initially and supported her. Right. They made it.
LaVar Arrington
They did.
Brady Quinn
And. And now they're investigating it and maybe it's which Is interesting because it feels like their reaction to this is more because of public pressure.
Jonas Knox
And they tried to put it to sleep. Like, put it to bed real quick. Like, nope, we got her. Didn't happen. Moving on. But the fact that it's like, oh, no, we're not done talking about it. It shows you how powerful the public is.
LaVar Arrington
Like, you mentioned, like, how difficult of a job it is to find six people that don't exist. That's crazy. Talk about reporting. She pulls that off.
Brady Quinn
Oh, my God.
LaVar Arrington
And that's a statue.
Brady Quinn
I mean, I think we do.
Jonas Knox
That's alleged.
Brady Quinn
We do. It could be during the fall, every year when everyone's voting. I mean, there's. There's a lot of.
Jonas Knox
There's a lot of.
Brady Quinn
A lot of names that show up.
Jonas Knox
Damn. We'd have took in some polls.
Brady Quinn
I'm just saying. Damn. It can't be that hard. I think both political parties figure out a way of doing it every time we get an election.
LaVar Arrington
America.
Jonas Knox
America is screwed.
LaVar Arrington
You know what I like about doing the show with you guys? When there's a story that's real muddy, a lot of people are like, ooh, I don't want to get dirty. And we say, grab a snorkel.
Jonas Knox
We're going in. We're going in.
Unidentified Guest
Yeah.
Brady Quinn
By the way, to the jerko that chimed in on social media that thought we didn't touch it. I'm like, bro, we didn't just touch it. We grabbed it. All right, we did. He fully locked on, and we're letting go.
Jonas Knox
Oh, my God. I mean, I study pictures of Joy like you would not believe, just so I could get a feel for what Jason Whitlock was speaking of when he explained it the way that he did. Okay, well, how did.
Brady Quinn
Hey, Jonas. How did he explain Diana? How did he describe her?
LaVar Arrington
Leverington.
Brady Quinn
No, no, no. How did he describe Diana? If he was peanut butter skin, that.
LaVar Arrington
Peanut butter skin and then big old cans.
Brady Quinn
But how did he describe Diana?
Jonas Knox
Yeah, you know, it was.
Brady Quinn
It was suntan. Oh, fake camp Suntan. Fake.
Jonas Knox
Can I see that one? Whitlock's been on one lately. He's been on. I mean, that. That Matt Barnes one was. That was over the top.
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Jonas Knox
Hey, dude. Really does look just like Michael Jackson. By the way, I ain't gonna hold him. J. Son looks exactly like Michael Jackson. And that new biopic that's coming out, is that what you call them? Biopic. What are they called? Biopic. Biopics. I don't know.
LaVar Arrington
You know this well, you know, we got a, we got a big one coming up. A big one in the world of sports. That'll be yours right here on fsr.
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Brady Quinn
Who's the blame for that? I mean, is this a matter of it not being the most exciting off season in, in general for the NFL? Like that, like free agency wasn't that impactful? The draft class, maybe it's. Some people say it's. It's because Fernando Mendoza's too squeaky clean and it's already known where he's going to go.
LaVar Arrington
It's him. He's the problem. Get a flaw.
Brady Quinn
You're playing Mendoza.
LaVar Arrington
Get a flaw. Get a bad habit. Start drinking. If, like, if somebody wants to slip him an ounce of crystal meth before the drought, do something. Get an edge. Get something. So we have something to talk about. If you're Laramie Tunsil dude, you're not using the gas mask anymore. Give it to him. Let him do it. Sitting there in south beach waiting for the Raiders to pick him, and next thing you know, they pan over and he looks like that guy at the drug lab and true detective with a gas mask on, filled with weed. That's what we need. We need something salacious and he's not giving it to us.
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Jonas Knox
You know, I don't know how to. I don't know how to respond to that. But I, I find it interesting that we have not had very many top top athletes or, or top pick guys not come. Come under at an intense scrutiny. Sorry. So I'm like getting caught in my thoughts. Intense scrutiny for them. I think Back to the RG3, Andrew Luck. Is it RG3 and Andrew Luck that were coming out together. Is that the two?
LaVar Arrington
Yep. Yeah.
Jonas Knox
And how you had two guys, not one. You had two guys that it was very hard to create a narrative about what you did not like about them. And I think that was when we were hitting a period in time and, and culture where it was becoming a little bit more frowned upon and difficult. Speak your piece, especially if it had to do with a person of color. And, and I think that the approach in that year was because Andrew Luck was the generational talent, but RG3 was the one who won the Heisman and had an amazing year and, and did all of these things. Right. The only thing that you really could lean on going into that, that draft was turning them into arch nemesis crisis or, or making it a. A versus type of deal like pick your poison, when in reality, to be honest, it probably wasn't even close. I think they tried to do that with, with Simpson. You know the guy or not. Is it Ty Simpson? Is that his name? Am I getting it right? Yeah. Yeah, I think they tried to create that with the Alabama quarterback here, but in, in an effort of, of raising the, the point that he could be considered are just as good, if not better than, than Mendoza coming into this draft was shot down in such ferocity that it kind of killed it. And so it's, now it's, it's a matter of if we're, if we're building what the buildup of this draft is based off of. I, I, I think Mendoza and unless you're okay with just, just fantasizing over it, working out exactly the way it does in the movies, slow start in life in terms of nobody wanted you, you couldn't even walk on to the school that you wanted to go to. You end up going to this school here isn't that good. You end up transferring, going to another school. It works out for you end up beating the school that didn't want you, and you end up winning the Heisman. It's like the great feel good story in so many different ways. If that's not what they're leaning into, I would, I would ultimately challenge people. What is, what is the storyline that somebody could take and create for this year's draft? What is it?
Brady Quinn
Well, no, and, and that's the interesting thing about this is you do have an incredible story. A quarterback who comes in and in a single year turns around arguably the worst football program in college football history, wins the Heisman, runs the table in arguably the most difficult era to ever do it, and yet there's still no buzz. And he's going to a team that's a storied franchise, or we're assuming he's going to go to the, to the Raiders, which is a storied franchise and obviously needs a ton of help to turn this thing around. So it's kind of crazy to me that there's not more buzz. Maybe just because it's a foregone conclusion. That's part of it. I tend to look, look at it this way. I don't think it's so much about Mendoza as it is about everything else behind him. You know, we, we might have to wait a little while before we hear Ty Simpson. There's, there's some concern about his lack of experience. You know, you look at some of the top rated guys. Caleb Downs, he's a safety. Jeremiah Love, he's a running back. When you look at teams and how they build the roster, they get excited about, about tackles, edge rushers, you know, D tackles, cornerbacks, wide receivers, obviously quarterbacks, not those Two position groups. You know, when those are the best overall prospect players you're looking at and they get kind of pushed up, it. It takes a knock at some of these guys. I mean, Arvell Reese is an incredible talent, but their teams are looking at him as an edge player. He's not a ton of experience as an edge player. At from Ohio State, you get Ruben Bane. There's concern about his length of his arm length. And now there's some concerns about, you know, a car accident happened a couple of years ago and left someone.
LaVar Arrington
Jesus, man.
Brady Quinn
Yeah, well, I mean, they're digging into this stuff. Spencer Fanu, that tackle out of Utah, some might feel like he might be better at guard. So when you start to break down this draft, I don't think it has so much to do with Fernando Mendoza. I think it has to do with the NFL scouts, talent evaluators, not getting as excited because they don't have those tackles, those edge rushers that, those, you know, the defensive front, the wide receivers, the cornerbacks, they don't have as great of a class as they've had in the past or next year. When I've talked to you guys about the quarterback class, like that quarterback class, you're going to see five to six quarterbacks taken in the first round. That is my projection for 2027 this year. We might only have one. So I think all those things add up to there not being as much buzz around NFL teams, their front offices, and then that kind of lends to the same way about the middle media where outside of doing mock drafts, they're not talking about it quite as much. I mean, right now, you know, part of the speculation is, all right, after Mendoza, when is Ty Simpson going to go? How are we going to see some of these tackles, some of these defensive players? But where's Jeremiah Love fit in there as a running back? How high could he go? And, and that's kind of it.
Jonas Knox
Am I, I think if you ask. Go ahead. I was going to say, am I horrible for saying if, if Arch Manning or let's just go back to like, if Michael Vic Vick or, you know, what's coming out right now, would there be more excitement about what Mike Vic could represent to the Raiders than what we're seeing with Fernando Mendoza? Because for what it's worth, Fernando Mendoza accomplished more than what Mike Vic did in his last year coming out of college. I just don't think, I feel like the reason why this, this, this, this, this draft is struggling to have that type of storyline. Last year's draft struggled too and they had to lean on, on Shador to carry them through two, two days of, of draft coverage.
Brady Quinn
People prank calling them.
Jonas Knox
I mean, come on man. From, from, from team, from team kids, by the way from team or from organizational people's kids. I, I just wonder what it leads me down the road to wondering is, is if there's not an anchor for this, for this draft in particular, it was the controversy of Shador, which as much as that to, to do with connecting it to, to prime to Deion Sanders, it's a, it's an easy one to win on and get people to link in and pay attention to this one this year. It says to me that maybe there's not a belief beef that Mendoza is a generational talent. Maybe Mendoza is not the quarterback that is going to change what's going on in Las Vegas with that team. Maybe they're not as high, maybe people are not as high on Mendoza internally is what needs to be for the hype machine to really get behind them. Because ultimately if he were that, I think people will be way more excited for a legendary historical franchise to get a guy that's going to turn the fortunes around of what they've been and what they've not been able to to get away from, which is winning and not having a franchise quarterback to, to go with their team. That's not, that should be an easy layup of a headline that drives this, this, this draft and it's not. So I, to me, I feel like this is, this could be an indictment on how good they view Mendoza being as a, a pro quarterback. I mean not even projecting them to start.
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This episode of The Dan Patrick Show, hosted by LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, and Jonas Knox sitting in for Dan and the crew, dives into major storylines in sports and pop culture. The hosts bring humor, insider stories, and spirited debates, primarily focusing on:
They also explore the traditions and oddities of sports media, betting misadventures, and lighter, off-topic banter, maintaining their signature candid and comedic tone.
The episode is an engaging blend of sports analysis, media inside baseball, and fast-paced comedic interplay. From dissecting iconic golf moments to wading fearlessly into scandal-driven media ethics, Jonas, Brady, and LaVar keep the conversation lively, insightful, and unfiltered—making it a can’t-miss for sports fans who appreciate both substance and irreverence.
| Segment | Time Range | |---|---| | Opening / Masters Banter | 02:11–16:00 | | Masters Recap & Betting Lamentations | 16:00–22:00 | | Media Scandal Deep Dive: Russini/Vrabel | 28:22–55:03 | | NFL Draft Hype & Prospect Analysis | 59:48–69:03 | | Notable Banter, Show Wrap-up | Throughout |
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Expect a high-energy, honest, and often hilarious ride through the weekend’s biggest sports stories, with a unique window into the personalities and opinions that make this crew’s chemistry pop.