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Jason Stewart
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Dan Beyer
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Jason Stewart
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Dan Patrick
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Jason Stewart
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Dan Beyer
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Doug Gottlieb
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Jason Stewart
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Doug Gottlieb
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Dan Beyer
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Jason Stewart
What up? Good morning to you, Dan Patrick show, fox Sports Radio iHeartradio app. And may I be the first to wish you a happy New Year. You're like, no, everybody wished me a happy New Year last night. I don't know. Especially if you're a West coast. You're getting up, you probably went to bed early. You're probably like going to bed. What's the point? Well, I don't know. It's 2025. Dan Byer alongside.
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Dan Beyer
Happy New Year, Doug, Happy New Year.
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Jason Stewart
To you as well. Jason Stewart, our esteemed producer, joins us as well. Hey, J. Stu. I can't believe it's 2025 already. Just saying that because it irritates. It irritates the heck out of him. Can you believe it's January already? I can't believe it's January already.
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Dan Patrick
It really is incredible how time flies.
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Jason Stewart
Yes. Yes, it does. There is a lot to get to with the three college football playoff games tonight with some other sports, yada, yada yada. But let's react to last night's Penn State win over Boise State. You heard it, I'm sure in the update. My guess is if you're any sort of sports fan, even if you're at a party, you were looking at a screen to see how it would go down. The final score is 31 to 14. I have my own opinion on it. But Dan, let me ask you, obviously you're not only a college football fan and you watch this thing, but, but, you know, like Big Ten is something that you watch a ton of because of all the sports, of all the sports teams you like, of all the college football teams you like, Ohio State is your favorite team. So you've seen Penn State in action. I think both of us thought Boise would keep it closer. I think it was 11 point line. I'm trying to remember back to the end of yesterday's show, but what, again, the final score is 31 14. Just gimme your sense of the game.
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Dan Beyer
I think that it was exactly what we expected. It finished as a 17 point victory. And if you didn't think that it was a 17 point edge, that's fine. I think it probably was. Boise State had opportunities, couple of missed field goals. They missed one on their opening drive. They missed another one that could have got them within a score in the fourth quarter. They Had a bad interception in Penn State territory. So Boise State had their opportunities, but at no point did I feel that Penn State was threatened or would lose the game. There was never a point of that. And so I, I think it's kind of what we expected. And Doug, what this does allow is us to say, all right, the Boise State really deserve the buy. Does Boise State or a team like Boise State deserve to be in the field? I think the first, the answer to the first question is no. And I think the answer to the second question is yes. Boise State fared just like other teams did in the first week of the College Football Playoff. So I, last night, to me was just more of a confirmation of what we thought and what we believed, and there was nothing there that changed my mind.
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Jason Stewart
That's really, really good. Really, really good breakdown analysis. Let me, let me ask you this. Do you believe that Penn State is one of the elite teams in the country?
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Dan Beyer
No.
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Jason Stewart
And again, I understand there's a gray area between. Yeah, yeah, there's a gray area between elite and should they get in sort of thing. And again, that's what happens when you expand to 12 is you get to these kind of like, okay, we're, do we reward a good team? My point would be, yeah, first of all, this should have been a first round game, right? Like Penn State is not a great team. They're, they're at best the third best team in the Big Ten, which is, which is, you know, no small feat, right? Oregon's good, who they lost to Ohio State to. And we've actually seen it on a football field. Right. This isn't the Indiana where we've only seen them play against one. We've seen them play against the two other, what we think are elite teams in the Big Ten. They've lost to both. And so they'd be by anyone's estimation the third best team out of the Big Ten, which is the second best conference in the country. Okay. And so I'll get to my thoughts on the game, but the point is and remains, and I think we are actually, we don't agree on a lot or maybe, you know, sometimes anything in an argument, but I think both of us would agree on these two statements. One, this is the most overly fair field we'll probably ever have. Right? We'll probably ever have because Boise is not getting. And I guess maybe they can figure out a way, but they'll. Maybe they have to do it next year. But after the two year trial period, there's zero chance that a non Power four school is getting a top four seat. Zero chance. It just so glaring to everyone. So glaring. And I can't. I think it was Chip Kelly who said it and obviously coaching in the Horizon League, we're catching strays. He's like, look, Oakland can get in the field, but they're not going to get a number one seed. Right. Like that's. And that's. And again, I don't think the Mountain west is Oakland, but I do understand what he's saying, which is it was just. The whole thing was ridiculous that they would get a top four seat.
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Dan Beyer
I think. And there's another, there's another reason for that, Doug, is I think previously if you saw an unbeaten team in the old format be able to run the table and make a push. You know, we mentioned the likes of Hawaii and the old BCS format, but in, in what happened with, with Cincinnati, you know, a few years ago, you have cincinn making their push in then the American Athletic Conference.
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Jason Stewart
Yes.
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Dan Beyer
Now, because of when you have 18 schools in a league, when you have the SEC with Texas and Oklahoma, those power conferences are looked at differently. There's more of a separation. Back when Cincinnati did it, I felt that there was maybe a closer gap because more teams were spread out, more schools were spread out. You had actual PAC 12 conference at the time, Big 12 had 12 teams. Now they've, you know, got 16 schools. The SEC's got 16, the Big Ten's got 18. And so it's, it's just the fact of these leagues that those smaller, the group of five or group of four are dealing with outside of the power four, it's just a bigger gap. So to your point, I think it was, it was different. You know, even, you know, three, four years ago because conferences weren't like this. But now with the move of USC and UCLA and Oregon and Washington and Oklahoma and Texas and Arizona State and Colorado and Utah and Arizona and the whole deal, it just, it's a bigger gap. So you can't. These conferences are just way too strong and way too deep to allow that to happen again.
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Jason Stewart
They have too much. Let's just cut the brass tax. They have too much money. They just have too much money. It doesn't mean you're buying a great team, but you're, it's a. In the attrition of the sport of football, okay? Just the depth of overall bodies and talent and what you can do when you're, when Your budget is 10 to 15 to sometimes 20x your opponent. Like, you know, I mean, I described this a little bit yesterday. There's a kid who had a great game Yesterday for Atlantic 10 School and I, the mom and him and we were recruiting him when I got the job. And man, that I think like this will work. This guy's gonna come in. He got to play in the NCAA tournament last year. I wanted this kid. I was like, man, you fit exactly what I need. Just a different level of athlete than I had on my roster. And when we got down to it, I just was. Half of my budget for NIL would have gone to one player which again maybe in hindsight would have been smarter, you know, but I just, you know, I would have been massively over my budget and somebody, you know, I would have been in a situation that some of these coaches are in where I would either had to go on beg for more money or I would have, I would have stopped paying guys because I wouldn't have had the money. So the point is that the money does actually really, really matter how much you have, how much you can spend. It's a crazy difference. There is one sort of evening of the playing field that still exists and it's going to be interesting to see what happens now with this. There's a new, it's a ruling, it's a temporary rule as a, as a court made it for the, for the Vanderbilt quarterback where your junior college year doesn't count. So again like you're able, those non power fives are able to one go down recruit. You know, FBS kids are transferring up kids with an extra year, sometimes two extra years. Now you're getting older guys. So kind of like the old BYU effect where you can have 23, 24, 25 year old guys and the, and the, you know, the Georgia's, the Alabamas, you know, they're dealing with pro prospects that maybe they have a greater depth of athletes but they don't have the age and experience. But generally yes, this is, this has been my argument for why the SEC deserved more seeds. And I know, you know, two of them lost yesterday. I don't, I find it hard to take those ones seriously because they're not the, they're not the championship bowls. The point is that the Big Ten and the SEC have more money than everybody else now. There's a couple of schools around the country that in their leagues they have a bunch of money and generally they've done really, really well. But yes, there's a greater separation. There used to be. So the first thing is I don't think we're Ever going to have this again after these two years. And yet I'm with you. It's like we've completely overcorrected from where we always used to be. For years. It was, we got to have a playoff. And hey, let's not forget about the little guy, because the little guy is what makes the NCAA Tournament so popular. It's not actually really. Right. It's really not. What makes the NCAA tournament really popular is the bracket itself. The 64 team field that everybody, your grandma, your son, your nephew, everybody can fill out. And even with no knowledge, yes, the Cinderella upsets are really cool, but they should always be included. But there's a difference between including a Boise State and giving them the 3C. I mean, it was honestly ridiculous. But in regards to the game, there.
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Dan Beyer
Was a moment, just a sec. Your whole money thing that you're talking about, I completely understand what you're saying, but money has never been a part of the discussion when we are trying to pick the schools. Now, they may be better and they made me spend more, but we've never said, well, that team's nil budget is blank, so. Or this is how much this athletic department brings in or this football program, therefore they're better. We've always done it on records and we've always done it on. On leagues and strength of schedule and who they've played and who they didn't play, who they won and who they lost to. So while money will change things, I do still think that it goes down to the things that I talked about. And the bigger part is just that it's. There's no way you can now stack up a Mountain West Conference against the Big Ten or an sec.
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Jason Stewart
Yes, but it's again, because of the money again. And it's just how much you spend. It really is. I mean, I wish it was about a bunch of other things. And I thought, you know, Boise, there's a lot of clever things they do. They're expertly coached, they block well, they tackle. There's a lot of good stuff. But again, the money matters because you just have more resources of players. You've always had the more resources of coaches and stadiums or whatever. And there's always been the thought of stuff going on the table. Now, the reason we haven't had the discussion before, because it wasn't out in the open before and it was. The difference wasn't as stark a contrast. It just wasn't. Like, you go and look at, like, how do they have all these players? Like, they have more money they, they will pay players to redshirt everybody else. Why do you, why did a kid go there and sit and not play for a year? Well, because they told him, hey, we're on three year program, we're going to pay you more in your first year and then once you don't play in your first year. Yeah, you know, it really is sort of about the money.
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Dan Beyer
But if Boise runs the table and is 13 and oh like that.
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Jason Stewart
But they're also, they're playing against, with the exception of the Oregon game, they're playing against like funded or lesser funded teams. Boise for their league is very well funded. Boise in totality is not. So the point is like again, if you're the argument for any of these SEC teams and even Alabama, and I know they fell on the, fell on their face yesterday, losing, losing to Michigan. Okay. But if you play against 10 to $20 million teams on a weekend, week out basis, just the overall bodies, the collisions, it's just different. It's like Ash and Genti. I mean here's a perfect if I'm a running back, and I know that's not why he went to Boise State, but if I'm a star running back, I would much rather play at the Mountain west level or below simply to take care of my body for professional football. Because the collisions he took last night were at least 1.5x to the collisions he takes in the Mountain west because they're bigger, stronger, more athletic bodies and those collisions wear you down more and have the potential for injury more.
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Dan Beyer
Yeah, I get that. But that's no different this year. Right? I mean in, in college football and how we look at it. And they were still ranking Boise high up on the list because Boise had a close loss to Oregon and truly that was the feather in their cap as they played Oregon tough throughout the season. That doesn't, none of that changes. None of that, none of that is any different from from now. And that's. We're, we're actually, we're on the same page of what we're saying. You just think that money is the reason why. And I actually just think it's the depth of the conferences that now make the mo west seem lesser.
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Jason Stewart
Right. And it's. My point would be, you're right, we're, we're actually saying the same thing. And the depth of the conferences because those conferences are all way more funded, way better funded than the Mountain west is just, it just is. I mean, so I agree with you and that, that we've what we've done is we've elevated some of the, you know, like Louisville was at the level of Boise State. You go back 20 years ago, right now Louisville has been so. So the, if you want to call them mid majors of college football have. Have. Many of them have been moved up and Boise State has been left behind. And because Boise State has been left behind, I'll tell you what, this is a parallel to. You ready for it? This is a little bit like Villanova when they got left behind in the new Big East. Remember, Villanova was for the last five years or so of the. Of when the Big east was Gargantuan, was like 14 teams, they were struggling, they were middle of the pack. And then Syracuse, Pittsburgh, you know, Virginia Tech, they all left for the ACC and they were left with Creighton and DePaul and Providence and Seton hall with more true kind of mid majors. Now, the Big east has since elevated because Villanova built on that success in their league and then got better and better players and ultimately won two national championships. But they were, they went, literally went from middle of the road Big east team to dominant team in the Big East. And the only thing that changed was the level of overall competition in the Big East. Right? They were a high major. They were a kind of a upper middling high major for a couple of years, and now they're playing against mid majors and they dominate them. That's what's happened to Boise, where Boise now, like, again, their competition at their level has gotten lesser. So I'm actually agreeing with you. I think it's actually a really, really smart point that people don't understand. It's that not only have they been kind of left, but now the teams at their level are. I mean, like, look, the Mountain west, it becomes like a juco for the, for the Big Ten and for the sec. Like, that's what happens. You know, all those, all those kids, the reason they can recruit guys that have more than one year of eligibility is they tell them, hey, come here. You won't make as much money, but you'll play. Then you'll get film. Then you'll go to the SEC, you'll go to the ACC, you'll go to the Big 12, you go to the Big 10. That's actually how you recruit. Knowing that you're actually taking a slightly inferior player, but it's a better player than you could get in a traditional sense in recruiting. All right, real quick in regards to the game. And this is again of the things that I've Learned in my seven months of being a Division 1 head coach is a little bit, a little bit of what you talked about if you're at a talent deficit. And that game, that game was a mismatch. It wasn't a woeful mismatch. It wasn't like Penn State could just show up. But Penn State's a good, well coached football team. Hard hitting, they run the football, they do a lot of the things that, that Boise does, only they just have bigger, better athletes and do it a little bit better. You know, as much as Boise gave away opportunities with the field goals and with the touchdown that was called back and the touchdown not been called back, that would have put some pressure on Penn State. It would have been a one score game and we would have seen what Penn State was made of. The fact is that Penn State also gave away opportunities. That game would have been over early had Clifford not fumbled and they were marching down the field to score yet again. It just, it felt like Boise was stunned, you know, and would have been over early if not for the fumble. And then there was the interception, the second half, which there's a late hit, you know, personal foul penalty, a dumb penalty on another Penn State player. Had that not penalty not happened, I think Penn State would have scored there again. Game would have been over. But the big thing is for bo, if you want to compete against a team that's better than you, it doesn't mean you can't win. But you have to be much closer to perfect than they were. And they just weren't. Yeah, you know, they just weren't because if you can get, if they could have gotten it to one score, the pressure would have been on Penn State. You know, Penn State couldn't protect sometimes throwing the football and their passing in was a little shaky. And look, it's, you know, you start looking up and you're like, holy cow, we think we're better than them. We're only up three points here late. Yeah, I mean there actually was a moment where like this could be interesting. But the overall takeaway, and maybe this is confirmation bias, was it wasn't, it was, it was a mismatch. One team was way better. And we, I'm not, I coach at a mid major and basketball is a little bit different. You can mitigate some of that stuff with the three point line with zone defenses, with a lot of kind of cleverness, whatever. And we've seen it work in college basketball. And I don't think the contrast is as stark in basketball because guys, the best of the best leave after a year or two in college basketball or they can't until year three in college football. But that, that was a game in which Penn state probably wins nine out of 10 times. And in order for Boise to win, they have to be close to perfect. They got to make the first field goal, they got to make the second field goal, they got to not fumble the football. And even then, it would have been really, really tough to beat a good, solid, but not elite Penn State team.
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Dan Beyer
And I don't know if the sound was on where you were at, Doug, but I had the sound on. Bob Washuzen is great, but boy, anytime Ashton Genti would get any sort of space, he would just scream Genti. Because he was almost trying to will that narrative and that Boise State feel, you know, that, that story, almost trying to will it to happen like it would. He would go five or six notches higher on an eight yard carry, you know, because he was getting stuffed. And then anytime he would actually have daylight, they, you know, there would be, you know, some excitement. He actually got up around a hundred yards last night. I don't think he broke a hundred yards, but yeah, it was, they were, they were trying. They were really trying.
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Jason Stewart
Yeah, everybody, everybody wanted to be, you know, you always want to call the Cinderella, call the big play. And it just, yeah, he got over.
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Dan Beyer
100, 104 he was at.
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Jason Stewart
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Doug Gottlieb
For listening to the Dan Patrick show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning 9 to noon eastern or 6 to 9 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for the Dan patrick show at foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. It is time to elevate the holiday season. Whether you're hosting or gifting Sonos is the easiest way. Sonos works with award winning artists, producers, sound engineers to fine tune products to ensure that they deliver the highest quality sound. And man did they deliver. Listen to all the holiday music you want. Watch all the holiday movies you want. With Sonos, you put the products together and basically build your own sound system. Whatever works for you, works for them. This is the world's leading sound experience company and when you hear it then you'll realize how did I live without this? It changes everything. The music you listen to and the cinematic experience when you're watching movies. Sonos has great gifts for everybody on your list and you can get started. Visit sonos.com dan. You can wrap up your holiday shopping and with Sonos you'll find something for everybody. That's sonos.com dan Ah, the holiday gatherings. The office parties, fireside conversations, football Sundays. You know what winter means? Well, it's moments with the coolest people in your life. We do that on Friday. It's Miller Time on Friday. Doesn't matter the weather. Just build a fire and we make it go well with Miller Lite. The great tasting light beer for people who love a great beer. Tastes like Miller Time. The taste that you can depend on. There's no games, there's no gimmicks. It's just a beer for people who like beer. And Miller Light is brewed for taste. It hits you different than other light beers do. It's malted barley for rich balance, toffee note flavors, the iconic golden color. 96 calories, just 3.2 grams of carbs per 12 ounces. Miller Time is always a good time. The original light beer since 1975, coming up on 50 years. Still the best one. Miller Lite great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com Patrick find delivery options near you or pick up some Miller Lite. Pretty much anywhere that sells beer tastes like Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories, 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.
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Jason Stewart
Doug Gottlieb. Dan Beyer in for Dan Patrick and the Danettes. So, Dan, we did this yesterday. This is basically Jason doing a ton of work and going and finding some cool sound from 2024, right? And we, like, we just. This happened in 24. And you and I can go back and forth in what we remember about it. We called it. They said what? Hold up now. Wait a minute.
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Doug Gottlieb
They said what?
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Dan Patrick
Now, Doug, before we get into this, I do need to bring Dan on because he had, after the fact, he had a better idea on what to name this segment. What did. What did you. What did you want to do?
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Dan Beyer
So this aired yesterday. Last year, guys. It aired last year. I thought that the segment should be called what did we hear this year instead of they Said what?
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Dan Patrick
Much more catchy rhyming aspect. Yeah, Alliteration and rhyming.
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Jason Stewart
You had him at alliteration. That's like, that's. That's. That's basically. That's him. You had me at hello. You had J. Stu at alliteration.
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Dan Patrick
Exactly right. Exactly right.
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Jason Stewart
You had him in alliteration.
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Dan Patrick
The. And what I wanted to do today is that we had so much left on the cutting room floor. And you know when. Remember when people bought DVDs and they came with deleted scenes as a bonus? I always thought that was a little overrated. Like, if the deleted scenes were so good, why weren't they just in the original cup? But anyways, this is like the deleted scenes from yesterday's. They said what? And it's still great sound. And it's a reminder of, like, things that happen that are still pretty topical today. For example, I wonder if you think Jerry Jones would want these words back, but he has since doubled and tripled down on the comments. So maybe he didn't want him back. But this was the original all in comments from February.
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Jason Stewart
I would anticipate with looking ahead at our key contracts that we'd like to address. We'll be all in. I would anticipate we'll be all in at the end of this year. So when you say, is there any thought. I think Will Strainer will push the hell out of it.
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Dan Beyer
Will be going all in on different.
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Jason Stewart
People than you've done in the past. We'll be going all in. We've seen some things out of some of the players that we want to be all in on. And yes, I would say that you will see us this coming year. Not building for the future is the best way out of said that ought.
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Dan Patrick
To answer a lot of questions. Now, guys, all in is a catchphrase that is most kind of tied to Texas hold'em. I think it's ironic that a guy that lives in Texas and made billions of dollars in Texas doesn't quite know what the term all in is. He had a lame duck coach coming into the season. He signed Dak Prescott, I think, on the final day of the off season. And he didn't spend any money on free agents, which was kind of the opposite of all in. It was like frugal and kind of responsible financially. The opposite of all in. No.
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Dan Beyer
Yes.
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Jason Stewart
Again. I think that in Jerry's mind, they took care of most of their contracts that needed to. And the all in was they weren't, you know, they weren't playing for the future. They're playing for the now. But you're definitely, you're definitely right, right, that if this is all in, I'd hate to see what it looks like when they're not all in.
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Dan Beyer
Well, yeah, that, that. It just, we have taken the all in quote and shortened it when you hear that whole thing. He completely did the opposite. He tried to explain away what all in meant throughout the year, but knowing that original soundbite, he said, no, it's not about building for the future. It's about winning this year and doing it this year. Now, locking up Dak Prescott and CD Lamb may have been for this year, but those are also long term moves.
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Jason Stewart
Correct.
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Dan Beyer
Because of the contracts that, you know, you've laid out. So I just. Yeah, it just, it's complete lie. That's all it was.
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Jason Stewart
Let's get to, let's get to a basketball one. Don't you have a basketball one from February as well?
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Dan Patrick
I'm guessing you've wanted to do this after one of your games, Doug. Rick Pitino decided to use exactly zero filters when talking about his St. John's team after a while.
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Jason Stewart
So we are so non athletic that we can't guard anybody without fouling. I don't think they move well laterally. I don't think they're going to pick it up in the next week. I think they're slow laterally. I mean, Sean Conway gives you everything he can. He's slow laterally. About five guys are slow laterally even the Celtics when we lost. I've enjoyed every minute being the Boston Celtic. Coach didn't like the fact that we lost in that following year. But this has been the most unenjoyable experience I've had since I've been coaching.
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Dan Beyer
Do you have any second thoughts of taking this job?
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Jason Stewart
No, not at all. It's not St. John's it's my team. I think they're very respectful. They hear, but they don't listen. It's taken me a month to get them to throw bounce passes. Actually two months to throw bounce passes. Just thinking of getting ready for Georgetown because Georgetown could definitely beat us. I'm not even thinking of the future at all. I'm just thinking of the next game and the next game and the next game, and that's it. They actually end up winning some games after that, including the Georgetown. Although Georgetown was terrible last year. Yeah, that was a lot.
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Dan Beyer
It's not you.
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Jason Stewart
It's that least enjoyable experience I've ever had. Coach?
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Dan Beyer
Do you wish you wouldn't have taken the St. John's job? No, no, no. It's not St. John's it's my players.
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Jason Stewart
I just don't like those guys. That's amazing.
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Dan Patrick
Nothing to do with St. John's it's definitely unathletic players.
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Jason Stewart
No come. No comment from my end. None.
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Dan Patrick
So, so many people, I guess, put their foot in their mouth about Caitlin Clark over the past year. She was by far the most controversial sports figure of the year. And then Greg Doyle, longtime columnist for the Indy Star. He's kind of a different eccentric guy. Definitely leans left, but that has nothing to do with this comment. He had a. A. She was at the introductory press conference and he had this exchange with her. Hi, Caitlin.
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Jason Stewart
Greg Doyle, Indy Star.
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Dan Patrick
Real quick, let me do this.
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Jason Stewart
You like. You like that?
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Dan Beyer
I like that you're here.
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Jason Stewart
I like that you're here.
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Dan Beyer
I do that in my family after every game. So.
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Dan Patrick
Okay, well, start doing it to me and we'll get along just fine. So, question is, so Greg was taken off of any fever duty. He couldn't cover the fever for the rest of the season and maybe forever. I think he apologized in some way, shape or form, but a very disturbing sound bite there.
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Jason Stewart
Well, he did the heart thing, which is the Taylor Swift heart thing. And that is something she does. I don't know. Like, Greg, eccentric is the perfect word. I kind of think he got railroaded. This deal. Like Greg, the last thing he wants to do is. He's just weird. Just. He's a different dude, talented writer, sort of weird, kind of Mr. India as a writer, whatever. And yeah, I don't know. I think people didn't know how to handle the Caitlin Clark thing. And I also think that it's pretty obvious that women really don't know how to handle all the attention she got, you know, and that everything becomes sexist, racist, like. Or this is just sports and we're just trying to cover a Haley's comment that has our attention.
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Dan Beyer
You mean news outlets don't give a heart to the president right before the press conference or news conference and then he gives one back? The great part about. Well, there's nothing great about that clip, but there is one hidden. It is all cringeworthy. Especially actually when you know what happens. Like, you know what's going on, the cackling in the background. We always make fun of the fake laughter that we get with exchanges when coaches say something that's not even remotely funny. But the. But this was more of a pep rally, media combo thing. This wasn't like just a media session thing, but there are people just cackling in the background, too, just thinking how great it was. Yeah. So wrong.
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Jason Stewart
The whole thing was just so. Everything was just so weird about it. I don't know.
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Dan Patrick
But you talked about how, like, the WNBA themselves didn't like the way they were covered.
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Jason Stewart
So as you said, they don't like anything unless you just say, you're great, everybody loves you, you're better than the NBA. You're better than everything, and we're all idiots for not covering you for 25 years.
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Dan Patrick
I think one of the morons over on ESPN had said that when Caitlin Clark was eliminated from the playoffs, that now he's looking forward to seeing coverage that's empowering to women. At least now that Caitlin Clark's gone, the ratings might not be up, but at least we'll have empowering coverage. So LeBron James actually weighed in. Everybody had a thought this. And LeBron James weighed in defending Caitlin Clark.
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Dan Beyer
The one thing that I love that she's bringing to her sport. More people want to watch, more people want to tune in. Don't get it twisted.
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Jason Stewart
Don't get it up.
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Dan Beyer
Caitlin Clark is the reason why a lot of great things is going to happen for the wnba. But for her individually, I don't think she should get involved on nothing that's being said. Just go have fun, enjoy, you know, But I. I'm rooting for Caitlin because.
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Jason Stewart
I've been in that seat before.
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Dan Beyer
I've walked that road before. I hope they.
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Jason Stewart
I hope she kills.
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Dan Beyer
I hope Aaliyah Boston does amazing. You know, I hope they do great.
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Jason Stewart
Yeah.
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Dan Beyer
Yeah.
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Jason Stewart
I mean, he has, on some level, walked it. It's got to be. I just. Just can't imagine carrying an entire sport and the sport fighting you carrying it right now. Look, there was a little of that with. With Jordan early on, a little bit. Okay. Because they weren't very good, but not much. Not much with Magic and Bird. There was none of it with Kobe. There was some of it right where Jordan and some of the old guard. You know, he was a little much, maybe a little bit of it with LeBron, but I actually think Caitlin's caring of a sport when the sport itself doesn't want her to carry it is got to be really, really hard. Got to be really, really difficult. I just.
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Dan Patrick
I can't imagine everything she does is measured.
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Jason Stewart
Well, now it has to be. Now it has to be.
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Dan Patrick
You're probably wondering why, of all the sound bites in 2024, why Jeff Darlington would be one of them. You know, just a reporter that does a lot of NFL, but he covers golf, too. He was reporting on the PGA Championship, and he was an actual witness to the following event.
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Dan Beyer
Entering Valhalla Golf Club this morning, we witnessed a car pull around us. That was. Scotty Scheffler was in the car. To be very clear about the details here, Scotty Scheffler has been detained by police officers, placed in the back of a police vehicle in handcuffs. After he tried to pull around what he believed to be security ended up being police officers. They told him to stop. When he didn't stop, the police officer attached himself to the vehicle. Sheffler then traveled another 10 yards before stopping the car. The police officer then grabbed at his arm, attempting to pull him out of the car before Scheffler eventually opened the door, at which point the police officer pulled Scheffler out of the car, pushed him up against the car, and immediately placed him in handcuffs. Scheffler was then walked over to the police car, placed in the back in handcuffs, very stunned about what was happening, looked toward me as. Because he was in those handcuffs and said, please help me. He very clearly did not know what was happening in the situation. It moved very quickly, very rapidly, very aggressively. He was detained in that police vehicle for approximately 20 minutes. The police officers at that point did not understand that Scotty Scheffler was a golfer in the tournament, nor, of course, that he is the number one player in the world. I love the aspect of not looking back. And again, someone was tragically killed at Valhalla, which caused all of the commotion and the delays and the lane closures. And so that part is not funny at all. But how like Jeff Dart, like, this was. I mean, I mean, this seriousness. Now looking back on it, it was Scotty Scheffler who, again, I was completely in the wrong. I don't care if there's a police officer, if someone's wearing a vest, a security guard, you listen to him. Especially in that situation. Scotty Scheffler, completely in the wrong. But just to hear Darlington, what was that, like a minute 40 of. Just like a breakdown of. Of all. Of all the things. Like, like, you know, we have serious news in New Orleans today and like, Jeff Darlington was delivering it at that level. It's crazy.
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Jason Stewart
It was. That was a weird one. Like, is this really happening? Just really happening? Again, not to that level. I've had plenty of those of similar moments where you guys know me. Like, if you give me a parking pass or a badge to attend somewhere, anything more than five minutes before is a good chance I don't have when it's time to go in, right? Yes, it's a really good chance. And, you know, I always think one of the good things about being kind of an average looking guy is you can be inconspicuous. The only bad thing about being an average looking guy is you can be inconspicuous. And there's no benefits of, you know, like, if I'm 6 foot 7 and I come walking in, everybody, oh, well, you've got to be a player or somebody knows who you are. But I would also tell you that, like, part of the Scheffler not knowing, doing the. Do you know who I am? You know, is like everywhere he goes, everyone knows. In his own orbit, this never happens. You know, it never happens. Everybody knows who you are. And so all of a sudden a cop who's working at the golf tournament doesn't know who you are. Just, you're. It's really like, what? I don't know. It was a crazy one.
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Dan Beyer
Then he shot 66, five under, had himself into contention, but everything caught up with him on Saturday. Yeah, yeah.
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Jason Stewart
No, it had to be. Had to be a lot. I'm Doug Gottlieb's Dan Beyer filling in for Dan Danette's Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio. Okay, so we look back at some of the crazy things or things that were said in 24. What about 25? What about 25? Who is the athlete who's going to be the Caitlin Clark of 25? I don't know. We'll dig in next. The DAN PATRICK show thanks for listening.
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Doug Gottlieb
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Jason Stewart
Welcome to the Dan Patrick Show. I love Dan Patrick.
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Doug Gottlieb
Oh my God.
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Jason Stewart
Good. Home to the biggest guests in best sports talk on radio. I love it. One of my favorites. Normally home to Dan Patrick.
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Doug Gottlieb
Hope you'll miss us but today Dan.
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Dan Beyer
And the danettes are off.
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Doug Gottlieb
Don't see another radio show behind.
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Jason Stewart
Instead you get Doug Gottlieb and Dan.
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Doug Gottlieb
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Jason Stewart
Welcome on it to you Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio. Happy New Year. This is coming to you from the Tyrack.com studios. Tyrack.com is the official tire expert and retailer of the Dan Batrick show. Go to tirerac.com dan try the tire Decision Guide. Get a full line of Goodyear tires, special offers, free road hazard protection, mobile tire installation. TireRack.com is the way tire buying should be. Hope you're having just you had a great new year. God, what a tragedy. I just what an awful, awful event in New Orleans. I know. Again I was listening to your update on the fact they don't think it'll affect the sugar bowl. And I do understand you're talking about 100,000 people or whatever. 80,000 people plus all the other parts to it. And I Don't know what an extra day would do, but I don't know. That's a terror attack by definition of the word, right down the street. And it, and we can say, well, it doesn't have any effect in the game. Like, what are we actually talking about? You know, do we, do we just play the sport? Does the show must go on? I guess I don't, you know that that's a hard one. But I do think it. You have to have at least a conversation of, hey, are we doing the right thing by playing this, playing this deal?
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Dan Beyer
And, and they will play it there. There hasn't been any mention of a possible delay or discussion, authorities meeting the details. And obviously that's a topic of conversation. And you also have two teams coming in from Georgia and Notre Dame that have fan bases. Not that, not that it matters where any of the victims are from. Every life loss is tragic, but, you know, there are people in town for that. They said that those who lost their lives, mostly locals. Again, it doesn't matter. Just more information on it. But yeah, I think it would just be difficult because of the, if it was a Saints game, Doug, maybe, you know, maybe you move it to a Monday night, but because you have these two fan bases coming in and likely flying out the next day or leaving the next day, driving, I think it's, it's difficult to do that. Just, they said that the game is not at risk. They don't feel that there's any threat to the game. You'd expect that there would be beefed up security with, you know, with what they, you know, would have. They had tons of security out last night and, you know, something like this still was able to happen. But yeah, you'd expect that tonight. But they don't expect, they don't expect the game to be altered in any way.
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Jason Stewart
Yeah, that's just terrible, terrible stuff. So I know thoughts and prayers, you know, fall short of real kind of empathy for what's going on, but that's the only thing we can. We can do. And I actually do agree with the idea of playing the game. I don't want to. I just, I do think you have to go, like, are we doing the right thing here? And, you know, it's just. It's very likely too big a ship to turn around, you know, just. It just is. But it's, you know, I don't care where anybody's from. The fact is that anyone who goes down to, to New Orleans for the Sugar bowl goes to Bourbon. Right. You may go for beignets in the morning, but you're going to go to Bourbon and now that's a crime scene. It's a crime. It's just awful, awful stuff. All right, let's get to some better things that will happen today. This is the Dan Patrick show East Dan Buyer. I'm Doug Gottlieb in for Dan and the Dan eds. Jason Stewart, our esteemed producer, is alongside as well. Quick recap of last night again. And Dan, I'm gonna use your breakdown because I thought mine was way too wordy, which was there was never a point in which you thought Penn State was going to lose that football game. So what about today as now we have what feels like much more evenly matched matchups. Right. Does it feels, you know, anyone who's questionable is no longer in the field? It doesn't mean that we know exactly how good Arizona State is against the Texas, but I'm not sure we know how good Texas truly is. Georgia takes on Notre Dame in the nightcap. But the game that I think everyone points to as this could very easily be a national championship game is Ohio State, Oregon. And while you sit there and go, Ohio State lost to Michigan. Yes, they did. And Ohio State did lose to Oregon. And of course, the Michigan loss was at home by three points. Their offense did nothing in the second half. Nothing. But they turn around and put 42 up on on Tennessee. And now they take on the Ducks, who they played before. They play him, the granddaddy of the mall. They play him in the Rose Bowl. It's the closest thing we have to an actual Rose bowl with an old PAC 10 Big 10 matchup. Dan is a gigantic Ohio State fan. Gigantic. Your feelings going into these game, going in this game is if you add to parry down to one word, what would it be?
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Dan Beyer
Nervous. There's. Yeah, it's. But not for. There are so many storylines going about, but I feel that every single storyline is about Ohio State. Every single one. Like, we're not talking about Oregon. We're talking about Ryan Day. We're talking about Ohio State turning it on against Tennessee. We're talking about revenge change. We're talking about pass interference. And just like the entire season, Oregon's going dun, dun, dun, dun, da da. We'll just keep winning and going on about our business. And you know, it's funny with the Giants Eagles conversation that we had of saying, like, wouldn't that just be the ultimate, you know, bleep you to the Giants where the Eagles are just like, yeah, we don't care. You know, we're going to sit Saquon. There's a little bit of that aspect with this where I just think like Oregon's like, okay, go ahead, keep talking, you know. Yep. You guys are the ones that are going to make the adjustments. It's just very naive to think that while it was such a close game in Eugene and that maybe Ohio State played its best game of the year against Tennessee, that Oregon just wouldn't have gotten better or Oregon wouldn't have improved. That's, you know, that's foolish to think of that.
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Jason Stewart
I, I think, yeah, your, your apprehension, your nervousness is. I, I, you know, this is a gig. It's, it's totally unfair. But this is the, you know, this is the business we've chosen, right?
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Dan Beyer
Yes.
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Jason Stewart
Ryan Day, totally unfair. But like this is everything, you know, and everyone was on him last week and they go in Mollywamp Tennessee. Right. And again, I don't know whether it's the beard dye or you know, the records against the ranked teams or whatever. I did think there was, you know, Oregon was very, very clever obviously with their manipulation of the rules when they play, when they won the game at Austin, which is in fact coaching and you know, and look, Dan Lanning, whether it's the pre game halftime videos or just the overall positivity and energy, whatever it is, like, like he's kind of, it doesn't mean you win the game, but in terms of public opinion, he wins public opinion ahead of, ahead of Ryan Day. Right?
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Dan Beyer
Yeah.
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Jason Stewart
So I'm just, it's, it's, this game is everything to Ryan Day.
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Dan Beyer
I think if you had a college football coaching draft right now of the coaches in college football and it's not because they're number one. Maybe because they are number one. It doesn't make this as big of a deal, but I think Dan Lanning's your number one pick of all the coaches out there. And I know Kirby Smart in Georgia, like hold on, wait a second here. But there seems to be something about a guy who by the way, where did he come from? Came from Georgia. But they're just as, there's something about him, there's something about his attitude, their confidence. We've always talked about the Oregon resources, but. Yeah. And the culture that they, they've built. Yeah. My goodness. I mean he's done a spectacular job. I mean we look at Bo Nix now and Sean Payton deserves some credit. But there was, there was an Auburn bonix and Auburn bonix has been completely erased from our memory.
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Jason Stewart
Correct.
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Dan Beyer
Because of Oregon Boninks and now Denver Bronco Boninks.
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Jason Stewart
And I would also say Dylan Gabriel, much the same, you know.
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Dan Beyer
Yeah.
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Jason Stewart
At Central Florida when he was at Oklahoma last year. Remember Oklahoma let him go. Let's not forget, you know. And they thought they had an answer that was better than Dylan Gabriel. And the thought was, Dylan Gabriel, you top out when you get to the really, really high level stuff. Stuff. He just. He's gonna. He's gonna top out. That was the feeling from last year. And you're like, yeah, I don't know there, right? I mean, yes, Oregon could have come in with a big bag, but guys like that at Oklahoma. Oklahoma has plenty of money. Plenty of money. And they wanted to fix it. They sat there and said to themselves, we're good, we're good. We have something better, you know, and he was a, you know, a freshman starting quarterback who, you know, redshirt. And Jackson Arnold. And Jackson Arnold started three games and they pulled him. They put him back in. They pulled him again or whatever, but they thought Jackson Arnold was better than Dylan Gabriel. So just. And I'm with you on Bo Nix. People forget Bo Nicks started as a freshman at his dad's alma mater at Auburn. And Auburn fans are like, dude, road game, Bo Knicks not good enough. Goes to Oregon. And pretty and good enough. Right. Dylan Gabriel, kind of much the same. So I'm with you. And all these things can be true. But the game feels like it's all about Ryan Day. Yeah, it's all about Ryan Day.
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Dan Beyer
It's a lot. A lot of. Lot of Ohio State. A lot of it.
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Jason Stewart
Yeah. Yeah. Do you take anything like. I know that Herbie's taking a beating on social media. Not that that matters. The SEC losses, the two SEC losses yesterday, does that help the argument of the other conferences?
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Dan Beyer
I don't think so. What I do find is how America is united against the sec, because at one point I just felt that each conference, and specifically as a Big Ten guy, I felt like the Big Ten had to fight their own battles. But now you have one less conference in the PAC 12. So maybe the reaches has. That's expanded. And since now the SEC has expanded, some of the Big twelves probably felt the heat. I feel there's more anti SEC than anything. I don't think that Alabama really was too interested in playing that game. Take nothing away from Michigan, you know, South Carolina, Illinois sure seemed like a different sort of deal. But yeah, I don't read. I don't read a lot into it. I don't Think the SEC is the Doug, for all the SEC talk that we had. Again, I just go back to the Georgia Tech Georgia game for the team that we feel is the standard bear in that conference. You know, Georgia Tech could have won that game late in the year and changed things. I just didn't think that the SEC was as great as it was. So it's not like a piling on for me. I don't think it makes a difference. My feelings about the league are, are basically the same as what they were prior.
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Jason Stewart
Well, the ultimate equalizer for these things for these leagues is quarterback play. And that's what's going to be interesting, right, is that's what happened with the Pac 12 last year in its last year of existence. It's pretty obvious you had some studs at quarterback which can even out when there's a talent disparity. Maybe not even out, but relatively level the playing field when there's a talent disparity. Okay. The Sugar bowl, which we started by talking about like that feels like that's a pick them. That's a pick them. And it's a, it's a weird thing again. Yes, I agree. Most of the world is anti. Feels anti SEC just because they've been so dominant for I think for so long and there's so much discussion and assumption that they're ultimately going to have a couple SEC teams in the national championship game. Have you noticed? I feel like Marcus Freeman is the Zion Williamson. What Zion Williamson was to Duke is Marcus Freeman to Notre Dame. Zion Williamson made Duke likable, right? Like no one when he was in college. Like everybody liked watching Zion Williamson. Like, yeah, he plays for Duke. Like, okay. And I'm not a Duke hater. I do know that the Duke haters exist and they are a loud group, right? And Notre Dame is the same thing. It's usually a national celebration when Notre Dame loses a college football playoff game or a BCS game, right? Or a big game of this magnitude. People just like they've, they've heard enough about Notre Dame and all of the historic history stuff which none of it has helped him out in modern day football. And I think Notre Dame has been a hell of a program here for the last decade, spanning the last couple of coaches. But Marcus Freeman is. Seems so much more likable than a Brian Kelly that he's like, he has the Zion Williams effect. Like I actually think that a lot of America going to be cheering for Notre Dame to win this game over Georgia. Part of it is Georgia's overall Dominance the sec. But a lot of it is people just like Marcus Freeman think like that's the kind of dude I want to see winning football.
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Dan Beyer
That's interesting. I hadn't thought about that. That there, there is some arrogance that automatically comes with being the Notre Dame head coach. Even if you're. I mean Lou Holtz obviously the Brian Kelly as you just mentioned even Charlie Weiss for that matter. There is something with it. And I also think that the SEC then plays into the to the Georgia stuff a pick em game. I'd be curious to see what it would be if Carson Beck was healthy. I'm not sure how different it would be but I would have to think that it would at least be a little different that it would favor Georgia. But Gunner Stockton's gonna have everything that he, you know on his plate and more tonight. That sounds very cliche but the one thing that I will say is it's funny because for how good this Notre Dame team is. Doug, when we talk about do you let the little guy into the bracket? What do you do? Well, Northern Illinois probably had the win of the year in college football when they went to Notre Dame and won in September. You know so there's. There's always that bugaboo for when you look at how good you know Notre Dame is and Notre Dame's playing really, really well. It's. You look at that that blemish on their record. You're like oh yeah. Northern. Northern Illinois. And even if Notre Dame would have run the ran the table they still would have been you know where they are on the brag. It would have been a five seed but they wouldn't have got a first round by because they're not in the conference. But yeah, just, just unique with the Irish and I think the lone blemish bniu.
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Jason Stewart
Yeah. And NIU fired their coach too. Like you beat note in the year in which you beat Notre Dame at Notre Dame and you lose your job up college sports man can't beat. And then of course you got Arizona State, Texas as I don't Kenny Dillingham got an extension so he's not going anywhere.
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Dan Beyer
Jake Plummer on yesterday and that's what I was kind of curious. What are you going to do? Maybe he knew something at the time that we didn't. But that news came out after the interview.
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Jason Stewart
Yeah. And of course they take on Texas and Texas has beaten everybody they played except for the Dogs. And they lost to the Dogs twice, second time in overtime. Will they get a third shot at Dogs? They got to survive Arizona State. And. And Cam Scatterbo, if you haven't seen him, he's a transfer from Sac State, played the last two years at Arizona State.
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Dan Beyer
And yeah, Jason Stewart's got a firsthand look at Cam Scatterboat. Jason, in your in person scouting, I know you were able to check him out in Stillwater.
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Jason Stewart
What.
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Dan Beyer
What kind of game do you think that Scatter Boo had?
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Dan Patrick
First of all, I. I want to give some context to this for listeners that don't know. Doug got us amazing seats to. Was it Boo Pickens Stadium?
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Jason Stewart
Boone Pickens Stadium.
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Dan Patrick
That's Boone. Did you say Boone Pickens?
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Jason Stewart
He said Boo. He said Boo. Boone Pickens, you are my Boone.
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Dan Patrick
We had great seats and we were able to catch a quarter of the game before the game was postponed for several hours due to weather. And in that one quarter, I saw some magic with Arizona State. It might have had something to do with the fact that Oklahoma State had dummies for their defense. They played zero defense in that quarter that I saw. But I saw some magic with Arizona State. Doug?
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Jason Stewart
Yeah. Oklahoma State, I think statistically was the worst Power 5, Power 4 defense in the country. But Cam Scatterbo is pretty awesome to watch. Pretty awesome to watch. This is the Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. He's Dan Byron. Doug Gottlieb. All right, coming up next. Next, we'll take one final look back AT Sports in 2024. They said what? You'll hear it next. But first, cars today are built to last, but how they look is up to you. That's where Mako comes in. We specialize in cosmetic repairs, from affordable paint jobs to fixing those annoying dents and dings. Maybe your car's paint is faded or you've been meaning to fix that scrape from the grocery store parking lot. Whatever it is, makeup has you covered. Here's the best part. We offer free estimates. Stop by your local Mako and find out just how easy it is to refresh your ride. With more Americans keeping their cars longer, now it's time to protect your investment. Keep it looking sharp for years to come. At Mako, we're a proud trusted partner for drivers across the country. Whether it's giving your car a fresh coat of paint or fixing up those everyday dents and dings, Mako is here to keep your car looking its best. Visit your local Mako today for a free estimate and see how easy it is to bring new life to your ride. Oh, better get makeup.
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Like you know to check you have the tickets in your wallet first before.
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