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Mac McClung
Yeah, it was a really cool moment, man. I think my teammates, they were, they're like, you're getting this record tonight. So they had my support and they really wanted me to break it. So it was a really cool moment.
Dan Patrick
How much could you score in a game?
Mac McClung
The 59 was pretty exhausting. So I don't know, I don't know how much more I could do than that. So I'd probably say that's close to my limit.
Dan Patrick
So you can't go 83 like Bam. Out of bio.
Mac McClung
I haven't done it yet, man. I don't know. That's. That's incredibly impressive, I think no matter what the situation is. So that's, that was really cool.
Dan Patrick
What are you told? Because we see your abilities, but what do teams tell you when you get a 10 day contract or you're brought up for a little while and then you go back to the G League?
Mac McClung
Yeah, it's kind of different in every situation. You know, I think, you know, being in the situation where you're fighting to find a roster spot, you. Different teams need different things. So whatever it is, I try to adapt and do that, you know, and been tough, man. A lot of times I've been told, you know, you're an NBA player, like a coach. I had actually one year, you know, being on a two way, you're at the bottom of the roster, you made the roster, but you're kind of the guy that goes back and forth. And I had a coach tell me one year, he's like, man, you're an NBA player, like all you need is an opportunity. And I almost like was laughing, I was like, well, you got to give me that opportunity. Really, I'm just trying to make the most of whatever this situation is. It's tough, man.
Dan Patrick
Well, you hear about you don't play defense or you're not good at playing defense, you're not good off the ball. Like these are things that have been said. Are those fair, those fair criticisms?
Mac McClung
You know, my two games this year when I got called up at the beginning of the year where I got legit minutes I was actually leading the league and still. So I don't know if I agree with that totally. So there's always going to be something, man. I feel like that's the thing I've been trying to do in the G League is just show, like, oh, you said this. Wasn't that. That. Well, that's not the case. And some people are always going to say certain things, man, but I've really got a lot of love and respect from, you know, peers in the league that I really appreciate and coaches in the league that I really looked up to. So I think just. Just trying to find that opportunity in that Right situation, man.
Dan Patrick
What was your welcome to the NBA moment?
Mac McClung
I would say, with the. With the Lakers. That was where I started. And that team was LeBron, Carmelo Rondo, Dwight Howard. And I was just like, I'm this kid from this small town in Gate City. I'm like, what am I in some video game right now? So that. That was shocking and something I had to adjust to for a couple days.
Dan Patrick
Did you get to keep the uniform?
Mac McClung
Yeah, absolutely. I always, always try to make sure I keep that and have it. You know, some of my kids hopefully can see it one day.
Dan Patrick
Do you introduce yourself to LeBron or does he say hello to you?
Mac McClung
I would. I definitely introduce myself. And, yeah, I don't think he, in that situation, he would ever have to introduce himself to me. So, you know, it was an honor being just a part of that and getting to see some things.
Dan Patrick
But are you starstruck on the floor when you're playing? Like, I'm guarding this guy that I grew up watching. Did you have that moment?
Mac McClung
I think in my first year, you know, you just adjust to that. I think at the end of the day, we're all competitors, and you want to win, and you kind of flip that switch once you get on the floor. But there's a level of respect. You know, when you're a little kid and you watch someone and they mean something to you, they make you love the game that you're always going to have for those people, do you think
Dan Patrick
you're too good at dunking? That it overshadowed you as a basketball player? That maybe you were looked at as he does that and not maybe being fair to your actual basketball game?
Mac McClung
I think that that could be maybe something from the outside eye. But, like, these scouts and these teams, like, their job is to know basketball players. So I think anybody that, like, knows basketball, like, that is just something I got to be a part of, and I'm Incredibly grateful for. I'll lean into it, you know, like, that was such a cool thing that I got to do. There's. I'm never going to be like, oh, man, I hate dunking now because of that. Like, that's a beautiful part of my life. And I think, you know, the people that really love basketball and into basketball, like, that's just a part of me that's not really who I am.
Dan Patrick
He's Mac McClung of the windy City Bulls. But why not be in the slam dunk contest this year?
Mac McClung
Well, they. Quite frankly, they didn't really want me in it this year, so that was. It was like a. They wanted me in it. And then some things happened, and, you know, it kind of just went back and forth. And at the end, they kind of didn't want me in the contest. So I'd already prepared. That's why I released those dunks on social media, because I'd already prepared. And I was like, well, you know, I teamed up with a company, marketing, and I was like, well, I might as well make the most of this.
Dan Patrick
But I'm. Was it. You weren't on a roster? Is that why they didn't want you in the slam dunk contest?
Mac McClung
No, I made the Chicago Bulls roster maybe a little bit before that, so.
Dan Patrick
Okay.
Mac McClung
I don't know. They told me that it was.
Dan Hurley
It was just.
Mac McClung
It was a weird situation, man. I think they. They said a couple guys didn't want to do it if I was in it. And I was like, okay, well, I don't want to ruin that. And wait, why.
Dan Patrick
Why wouldn't they want to be in there? Because you were going to win?
Mac McClung
I don't know, man. I feel like a lot of these guys are really talented, so that would make sense to me. I mean, a lot of things in this league don't make sense. A lot of times I'm just going with the flow, man. I really am just going with the flow.
Dan Patrick
How would you do Michael Jordan in his prime? You in your prime? Slam dunk contest?
Mac McClung
That's a tough question, Dan. I think the times have changed. Like, kind of like in the game of basketball, like, everything progresses. So I think if Michael Jordan was in this era, he would probably. Probably have so much different dunks and so many creative things. So, I mean, I would. I think I'd be a little crazy to say I'd take over MJ like that, man, so. And I got a lot of so much respect and love for him. I would never say that I'd beat Him, but it'd be fun. I would. I would definitely take the challenge. It'd be a lot of fun.
Dan Patrick
Have you met him?
Mac McClung
No, never met MJ before. It'd be super cool, though.
Dan Patrick
Can you leave from the foul line?
Mac McClung
My best jumps are off two feet. When I was in high school, man, when I was. When I was younger, I used to be.
Dan Patrick
That wasn't that long ago, Mac.
Mac McClung
Yeah, it feels like it adds two years to everyone.
Dan Patrick
You were really. You got. You got, like, viral famous. In high school, it was like, Zion Williamson, this guy, you know, Everybody wanted to see those videos. Like, did you feel like a star when you were in high school?
Mac McClung
That was some crazy, crazy times. I was. I was in a town of 1500 people, so everybody already kind of knew me. And it was. The cool part about it was when we would travel to different schools, they would, like. School would, like, shut down early because people would be outside waiting for the games. And it kind of felt like we were the kind of, like, this band that was traveling. It was like me and my best friends, man. It was such a cool experience. And, you know, you go on YouTube and, like, oh, that got 2 million views last night. It's just. It was. It was so weird being from a small town and, like, getting that attention, man. But it was really cool for me and my friends.
Dan Patrick
So it was boy band. You were like, you know, New Kids on the Block or One Dimension. One. What is it? One Direction.
Mac McClung
Yeah, we weren't that cool, but we felt good. It really did make us feel good.
Dan Patrick
So what's the future? What are you, 27?
Mac McClung
27 years old? The future for me, man, I'm not sure. I really like kind of going back to this situation and the record and my G League career. Like, all I've tried to do. All I've tried to do is. Is make the most of wherever I'm at in that moment. And whether that be the dunk contest, the opportunity I was given with that, or being in the G League, I've just tried to make the most of the situation. So I'm not attached to any outcome, but just whatever happens is, I really, truly believe I'm not a victim of anything, man. So whatever happens is. Is how it's supposed to be.
Dan Patrick
Official height and weight, I measured at the combat.
Mac McClung
I measured 62185.
Dan Patrick
Okay. Maybe it looks better when you're shorter. Like, if you're six six doing that, it's not as impressive.
Mac McClung
Yeah, maybe I maybe Wish I was 6 6. That would probably give me a.
Dan Patrick
If. If you're 6 6, you're not winning the slam dunk contest, but you're playing in the NBA.
Mac McClung
There we go. Well, that's. That's the interesting trade off.
Dan Patrick
Hey, it's been fun, been entertaining. I hope you get that true shot where you get to actually play and, you know, prove a lot of these people wrong. So congratulations on the scoring record, Dan.
Mac McClung
I really appreciate it, man. I appreciate you having me on. Thank you very much.
Dan Patrick
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Dan Hurley
Not really. I. I'm. I'm pretty oblivious, you know, to the circumstances. But, you know, maybe, I don't know. I don't think I've ever gotten a technical in an NCAA tournament game. I would have to have my stat group. So I don't know, you know, maybe this time of year, you know, everyone knows that everyone's watching. So, you know, the referees also got to be careful that they don't give me a weak technical.
Dan Patrick
Oh, I hope I didn't jinx you here for tomorrow night. Yeah, Mick Cronin got one for clapping.
Dan Hurley
Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised. I didn't know what the. Obviously the prop bets. Well, I'm sure there were lots of them on. I don't know what I went off at, but somebody wants some money.
Dan Patrick
Are you now Dan Hurley, like Danny Hurley? Is that. That's a previous life?
Dan Hurley
No. I think maybe when I get in my 60s, I'll go back to Danny when I want to feel younger because I'm old, maybe 70s, I'll go back to Danny.
Dan Patrick
Okay. All right. I know that you reached out to a lot of people when you considered the Lakers job. You reached out to Tom Izzo, who you face tomorrow night. What did coach say? Because I know he was thinking about going to the Cavaliers. The, what was that? The year that LeBron left the Cavaliers, he was going to go in and coach. So what advice did he give you on the Lakers, John?
Dan Hurley
Yeah, I mean, you know, coaches, oh, he meet. He walked me through just, you know, his, his thought process when he went through, you know, like the, you know, the decision making of making that move to the NBA and the pros and cons. And, you know, he obviously, you know, at that time, you know, college was very different. And, you know, the point that Coachman had made to me was, you know, hey, I think you really got to consider it our sport right now. It's, you know, it's so unregulated. It's such a mess, you know, that, you know, I would have considered this more now than I did back when college basketball, you know, was, you know, more regulated. So I, But I, you know, coaches has been there for me on lots of different things, you know, and I've studied coach for a long time. Like, I have all the great coaches. You know, I studied, you know, their films as a high school coach, trying to learn, you know, favorite practice drills of Tom Izzo, anything on motivation and leadership, culture building. You know, I've studied all the great coaches and taken advice from all the great one.
Dan Patrick
Can you see yourself coaching at his age?
Dan Hurley
I can't see myself coaching at his age, but I also can't see myself not coaching. You know, like, when you're part of teams and this is so, so much for part of your identity. I always say to myself, I can't believe these guys are coaching in their 70s.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, yeah.
Dan Hurley
But then, you know, then you find yourself coaching in your 70s.
Dan Patrick
Like Pacino, I mean, he, he's a life.
Dan Hurley
I mean, these guys are. It's incredible to me, you know, like, it really is the energy level, how they, you know, the thing about college, you know, college coaching, college basketball is like that, you know, the head coach drives the organization. I mean, they drive it, drive it, drive it and are pushing everyone around them to the max. And, you know, obviously, you know, with the amount of years those guys put in and what they achieved and to still be pushing that hard in their 70s. Incredible.
Dan Patrick
Can you be out coached?
Dan Hurley
I think that's a little bit of a. Whoever won the game out coached the Other guy thing, you know, I think, I think it's more about matchups, especially this time of year. You've got great coaches coaching all 16 of these teams. You know, it all comes down to, I think, matchups, who's playing their best at this time of year, halftime adjustments and all that stuff. I think it's way, way overrated.
Dan Patrick
Talking to Dan Hurley, the Connecticut basketball coach, they got Michigan State tomorrow night. St. John's getting a five seed after winning the Big east is blank.
Dan Hurley
Crap. You know, I mean, I mean, you know, crap. And then having the, you know, the two Big east teams, you know, in the same region, you know, it's probably the same.
Dan Patrick
Do you think that they were hoping that there would be a rematch committee?
Dan Hurley
Yeah, I mean, I think that they're definitely the committee. They got a weird sense of humor or they do a great job of trying to give the people what they want. And I think no matter how this week ends up in, you know, in D.C. you're going to get an Elite Eight game that's going to be, you know, it's going to be incredible when you've got, you know, Duke, you know, rick Patino in St. John's in Michigan State.
Dan Patrick
I had somebody ask me this and I didn't know if they were joking and I realized they weren't. They said, Can UConn be a Cinderella story as a two seat? I go, no. Well, I'll ask you, are you a Cinderella story this year?
Dan Hurley
No, I don't think so. I think we've been, you know, consistently, you know, consistently great the whole year. You know, we haven't always, yeah, we haven't performed in the championship moments. So it'll be interesting to see how we respond this week. But yeah, we played, we had as good a non conference wins as anyone in the country and then we went 19 and three in the big East. So, you know, and then, you know, we won our first two, you know, first two tournament games by double figure points. So I do think we're kind of coming in, you know, a lot quieter than we did in 23 and 24 and that's probably serves us pretty well.
Dan Patrick
I'm curious about the future of the mid major here, Dan, because I don't know if these last two years are an aberration or is that the future of the blue bloods are going to take over and mid majors are not going to be what they used to be.
Dan Hurley
Yeah, well, I definitely think that, you know, I think it's going to get tougher for Mid Majors, because I think more high majors are going to spend more money in this offseason season. So I think it's going to get even tougher, I think, to make the NCAA tournament, and then I think it's going to be tougher for the mid majors. But then I also, on the flip side, I think you're going to see even more international players coming into college basketball. I just think the inventory is going to grow as it makes more sense for international players that can make more money in college in America. And then that, I think, is just going to create more inventory of talent that the mid major, you know, ends up with, with better players, and they could maybe win more of these early conference games.
Dan Patrick
But I wonder, though, if you would rather get a transfer who has proven, or you got a high school kid.
Dan Hurley
I mean, in a perfect world, I'd rather have the high school kid. And I think the way that we try to do it is a majority of our team, we want is homegrown boys that, that we. A relationship with. We have a culture. We got a real connection, you got a real fabric of a team and, and then supplement with, with what you need in the portal or, or at least, you know, in most cases have multiple years with the transfer so it doesn't feel so transactional and then feel like you're just putting together a mercenary squad.
Dan Patrick
What's the most money somebody has asked you for?
Dan Hurley
4 and a half million, I think.
Dan Patrick
How does that conversation go?
Dan Hurley
It doesn't actually go on with me because I, I'll, I'll meet with the agents to talk about the vision for the player, you know, on the official visit with the, with the transfer or the high school player, they could sit in on, you know, how we plan to develop the player, how do we use them in the system, whatever. But once we get to, you know, any type of negotiating that just goes to the gm, Tom Moore, and then he just kind of walks in and out of the boardroom telling me where, where the negotiations going, and then, you know, yeah, I try to stay out of that. I don't, you know, the negotiations get personal.
Dan Patrick
How would you do coaching the UConn women's team? And how would Gino do well coaching the men's team?
Dan Hurley
Well, I think, you know, Gino would obviously do better coaching the men's team, coaching the women, because, you know, you, because Gino's maybe the, you know, the best coach of all time. So I would be, I don't, I would be more relaxed, obviously, I wouldn't be I would enjoy. I don't know, they've won 27 or 20 or 30 games this year by 25 points or more. I don't know how I would handle that. I don't know what type of stress I would create and, you know, what type of tension can I create there? It would probably make me crazy. I would long for a brutal loss at some point.
Dan Patrick
You would, you would probably consult your wife a lot more.
Dan Hurley
I would, yeah. She. She would, yeah. She'd have a lot to say, too, and she'd be constantly monitoring me.
Dan Patrick
You, you would have to find somebody to yell at, and it'd be hard to find somebody to yell at on the women's team.
Dan Hurley
It would be. And, you know, and I don't know, I. Or the officials are mostly female or. I mean, it's. It was that half and half, you know, I just. It'd be an adjustment. Different world.
Dan Patrick
Will you watch the games tonight?
Dan Hurley
Yeah, you know, we'll keep these guys up and, and do video. It's, it's, you know, the game's gonna start for us close to nine, you know, so we, but, but last week we played it at. I think we started our first round game at 10:30 Eastern Time. So our body clock is used to playing late at night. But yeah, I mean, only in years that I get eliminated early do I not watch. I, you know, I refuse. I boycott the tournament in years where we're not in contention.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, I understand that. You know, why put yourself through the agony of watching somebody and you go, we're better than them.
Dan Hurley
Yeah. And it's like, you know, when you're a little kid or something, and if you didn't get invited to a birthday party or a pool party or something in your neighborhood, and then what are you to do? Go up to the fence and listen to the kids splash around in the water? No one's doing that.
Dan Patrick
Is there something you want to tell me that you didn't get invited to the pool parties in the neighborhood? Did anybody have a pool in Jersey City?
Dan Hurley
There was one. There was one up at the top of the block, right down a couple of houses down from Darren Savino, buddy of ours, coaches at ucla. And there was literally one pool in this, like, probably two block radius. And on the way to the park where my, where my dad and mom would put us through the drills, me and my brother, the jump rope, the ball handling drills, the shooting drills, in the heat of summer, we had to kind of dribble past that pool while they were splashing around Barbecuing, listening to music in, like, June, July, August. So no scars.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but how many titles did those people win?
Dan Hurley
I mean, I don't think. I don't think they.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Dan Hurley
Sports wasn't their deal.
Dan Patrick
Was your mom putting you through drills with your dad?
Dan Hurley
Yeah, because during the week, my dad, you know, he was a probation officer, you know, so during the summer, you know, my dad didn't teach at St. Anthony, so he didn't get the summers off. So, you know, either me and Bob would write up the plan for the day or my dad would have the. The workout written out. The UB brown box drills, the agility warmup. I mean, we would chalk, you know, exes on the. On the court so we could do our agility work. My mom would have a whistle, and she would put us through the paces as the neighbor, as people would be looking out at us in astonishment. Neighbors.
Dan Patrick
So your dad, probation officer, I'm gonna guess. Pretty tough to get away with stuff in. In your teens.
Dan Hurley
Yeah, scare. I mean. Yeah. You knew. I mean, he just. Growing up in Jersey City, you know, the things that he did just as a kid, raised in the street and as an outside dog, not an indoor dog. And, I mean, he. You know, and then being a probation officer, kind of driving around with him when he would go on house calls, trying to find, you know, I guess his clients that had not come in to take, you know, the urine test or what have you, just seeing grown men scramble as the Dodge Caravan was driving down Martin Luther King Drive, you know. You know, you can't get away with stuff.
Dan Patrick
But I wonder that, had you been raised in the suburbs as opposed to where you're raised, would you be. How different would you be? Or would you be different as a person, as a coach, player?
Dan Hurley
I would be a lot different. I think the, you know, the advantage of growing up, you know, where we grew up, growing up in the city, growing up in North Jersey, Jersey City, you know, I just think you've got a real versatile, relatable way about you. You feel like you could communicate with a very diverse group of people from all different types of backgrounds. I mean, Jersey City, I think next to Queens is the most diverse city in America. So you develop a connection to all people. You're comfortable out on the street corner, but you're also. You develop a comfortability in the boardroom.
Dan Patrick
Great to talk to you. Do you have big plans for today?
Dan Hurley
Just the final prep. I mean, this is actually a good time of year, Dan, because the practices are short, the hay is in the barn and, and you feel a lot less pressure this year. You feel like getting to this weekend, you're back in contention. You're, you know, you're playing one of the best teams in the country in Michigan State. You know, look, let's, it feels like a lot of pressure is off. Let's, let's let it go. Rip.
Dan Patrick
Did you just come on because you were bored today?
Dan Hurley
Yeah, I do. I need time.
Dan Patrick
Filling
Dan Hurley
this brain right now needs distraction.
Dan Patrick
All right, well, yeah, hopefully I provided one for you. Thanks. Great to talk to you. Good luck tomorrow night.
Dan Hurley
Appreciate you, Dan.
Dan Patrick
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Paulie Fusco
Yeah, Paulie, The Golden Knights. The hockey team. What's that based off of?
Dan Patrick
Because the owner, I think, went to West Point, and it's about the Golden Knights of West Point.
Paulie Fusco
I could see the NBA, even in this gambling era, trying to avoid anything racy, for lack of a better word, with the name of the team. Like the high Rollers.
Dan Patrick
Well, you have the aces of the wnba. Okay, but. And that's a. That's a good. You don't want to be the joke. Somebody suggested the Jokers. I go, no, no. You don't want your team calling being called jokers. But then you have to trade for joker and get him in there.
Paulie Fusco
You don't want the Las Vegas dealers. That's a lot of.
Dan Patrick
You don't want the Vegas craps.
Paulie Fusco
Right.
Dan Patrick
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Dan Hurley
The Dice could do all kinds of things with two dice and light it up and do all kinds of, I think, marketing things with a pair of dice.
Dan Patrick
All right. The biggest dice. Yes, Marvin.
Dan Hurley
This may be Frisk Fritzy esque. The Show Boys.
Dan Patrick
The Show Boys.
Paulie Fusco
Sounds weird.
Dan Patrick
That sounds like some creepy website you're on.
Dan Hurley
Stay out of my personal life.
Dan Patrick
But I was looking over your shoulder. Yes, Todd.
Dan Hurley
The Las Vegas Gentleman's Club. Like, they have the Washington Commanders Club.
Dan Patrick
We were talking about real names, Todd. I think that could be fun, though.
Dan Hurley
But Adam Silver already kind of nixed
Dan Patrick
one of those things recently. Can't do the Magic City thing, so
Dan Hurley
we definitely can't call them the Las Vegas Gentlemen's Club.
Dan Patrick
No, no. Can't do Olympic Garden or anything like that.
Dan Hurley
Good times, though.
Paulie Fusco
Spearmint Rhino.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, the Rhinos. Yes, Mark.
Dan Hurley
Maybe something like from one of their old xfl, The Outlaws or something like that. I don't know.
Dan Patrick
I haven't seen any names.
Paulie Fusco
And yes, Paulie, I've got kind of a rando betting site. They have the Mirage, the Jokers, the Outlaws, the Scorpions, the Venom, the Diamonds. The Diamonds.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but that. Yeah, that should have been for the Las Vegas A's.
Paulie Fusco
Right?
Dan Patrick
The Diamonds. Las Vegas Diamonds.
Paulie Fusco
Right.
Dan Hurley
The Excaliburs.
Dan Patrick
Thanks. Yes, Marvin.
Dan Hurley
For me and Paulie, more important than anything, team colors. Like, what do you do?
Paulie Fusco
Because you can't look like the Brooklyn Nets with black and white. Oh, no one will confuse you because nobody watches the Nets.
Dan Patrick
But then are the Oakland A's, the Vegas A's. Are they going to continue their green and gold colors? I'm guessing the Raiders kept their colors.
Paulie Fusco
Yeah, Paulie, based off I got an article from Sports Business Journal, just a speculative article that says they wouldn't be surprised if they went a total different direction with their uniforms, which allows them to do A's throwback weeks and nights like most teams would do.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, see, part of the thing that's tricky for Las Vegas is a lot of names that would be perfect for them are already taken. So, like, you have the magic. That would be great for Las Vegas. Already taking the heat. Then the Desert. Oh, that's already. The Aces. Well, you already got an Aces. The good names are already taken. You could be like the Neons or something. Yes, Don, can they go into business
Dan Hurley
with the Sphere and be the Spheres and do something?
Dan Patrick
Maybe there's something marketing wise and they can. Kind of a tough nickname.
Dan Hurley
The Spears.
Dan Patrick
Let's go watch the Spheres. The Outlaws.
Dan Hurley
Yeah, the Golden Nuggets. You got the Denver Nuggets. You got the Golden Knights.
Dan Patrick
The Golden Nuggets. All right, I can do that. I like that. All right. Okay. You're rallying.
Dan Hurley
You probably wouldn't have the Golden Nuggets. If you have the Denver Nuggets, though, that would probably be a problem.
Dan Patrick
Good call, Todd.
Dan Hurley
It seemed like you were excited, everybody. Like, that would be something they should look at.
Dan Patrick
But, you know, it was better than the other suggestions you had. So now that I think about, you
Dan Hurley
can't have two Nuggets.
Dan Patrick
No, you can't.
Dan Hurley
I don't even know the Golden Nugget even exists anymore.
Dan Patrick
All right. Cuba in Arizona. Hi, Cuba. What's on your mind today? What's up, dp? Thank you. Hey, man. Just Call and give you some corduroy love. These haters on you, but even got a couple corduroy hats, man. Wait a minute. I'm getting. I'm getting criticized for my corduroy? No, I'm giving you love. Oh, well, that's what I was worried about. Am I getting, like, social media hate for my corduroy? All right, Baker and Bozeman. Hi, Bake. Happy Friday. And speaking of your corduroy love, listen, I want to fuel that corduroy love with a gorgeous chocolate brown corduroy Levi's jacket. I just emailed the photo of it to Tyler, the moderator, if you want to see it. I'd like. I'd like to offer that jacket up in exchange for a game used ESPN tie. You said you got 75 of them laying around doing nothing. How about a swap? All right, we'll do that, Baker. Thank you, Zach. And Knoxville. Hi, Zach. Thanks for holding. What's on your mind today? Thanks for taking the call, dp. I always pictured Marvin, you know, with the Jake Moskville jersey on when he's up there at the pearly gates.
Mac McClung
But I just wanted to ask you
Dan Patrick
about that NBA expansion. We already have quite a few teams that go into the season and remain irrelevant. Do you think that it's a good move to move into expansion right now? Well, we've talked about that, and we had Tracy McGrady on. He goes, I don't know if we have enough players to expand. And he does make a really good case there. I mean, if you look at some of these rosters, and I could give you names, and you'd go, what sport? You know, they just wouldn't ring. They'd ring hollow. And you'd be like, I have no idea who that is. I follow it. And there are times when I go, I have no idea who that guy is or who he plays for. I do not. But, man, you look at the Money, it's between 7 and $10 billion. This is the entrance fee. And that money will then go to the other owners. The other owners are going to make probably somewhere around, I don't know, 400, $500 million for not doing anything. You imagine you show up one day and you look in your bank account and it's got $450 million and you didn't do anything, man. Great to be an owner. Chris in Syracuse. Hi, Chris. What's on your mind? Hey, thanks for getting me in, Dan. Hey, I got a few things to throw at you and also a possible mock headline to be written on your casket. Yeah, I guess Vegas can't go with because of the Chicago Bulls. They can't go with the Pit Bulls either. You were talking about the Pirate center fielders. Non error. Now, MLB says it has to be a physical error, not a judgment error. When your judgment tells you to put your glove in a certain spot and the ball bounces off the heel of your glove, that's an error. Just like when your judgment tells you to run forward after a ball instead of back backwards. Running is a physical activity. It's an error. And I have to disagree with Robbie Hummel saying he's never seen a coach only having four players on the floor. Let's not forget about that other Husker coach, the legendary Norman, Dale and Dan. You guys were talking about having your funeral in the man cave on your beloved basketball court. The casket may read, former Western Kentucky Hilltop Hopper finally passes. Nice. All right. It's Eastern Kentucky. We. We weren't even Western Kentucky. They were good. They were Eastern Kentucky. It's very good. Thank you, Chris. Caleb Williams has submitted four trademark applications related to the name Iceman, a logo name, and silhouettes that mimic Caleb Williams poses. He rolls left, jumps, and completes a pass. So George Gervin, the Iceman, he has a problem with this because he is filed for a trademark. He had iceman and iceman 44. That was his jersey number. So four days after Williams application was filed, George Gervin, his trademark application was also, I guess, submitted, but he's been called the Iceman, and that was first used in 1979. I actually have the Iceman poster, and ice is. He's sitting on a block of ice, and he's. These basketballs, you know, look like they're ice as well. It's great. Great poster. But I sent me that, autographed it a couple of years ago. But I guess there is a. A soccer player in Chelsea, right? Satan. Yeah, Cole Palmer. And he's called Iceman. Well, no, they'll call him Cold Palmer. Oh. But his celebration was that sort of like, I'm freezing kind of thing, because, like, every time he scores a goal, he's like, that was too cold. Okay, so Caleb is imitating this soccer player, Cole Palmer. Yeah. Okay, so when Palmer scores, he gives you the old shivers, like, who? And so they call him Cold Palmer. Okay. I think Chuck Liddell, former MMA fighter. Wasn't he known as Iceman? There's a lot of guys who are laying claim to this Naval pilot Val Kilmer. Val Kilmer, the original Iceman. Og Yeah. I believe. What else, Paulie?
Paulie Fusco
Actually, the timeline would be George Gervin first. Okay. The George Gervin's company, Girvan Global Management, thought they had the nickname trademarked already. They found out. They never did. They. The confusion was a death of a business associate who was tasked to do this years ago, and he didn't get it done. So when Caleb Williams went in to do this, he had the green light to do it. It was not already trademarked. And when they realized that, they scrambled the Gervin people to Get Iceman and Ice44. Trademark. The nickname was not self given by Caleb. It's kind of. The press did it after he did the Cole Palmer thing.
Dan Patrick
Yeah.
Paulie Fusco
And. But he already took the logo and it's kind of making maybe a clothing line out of this or other things.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, they're talking about jerseys and hats and sports equipment, eyewear, posters, trading cards, sweatshirts. George Gervin is Iceman. Yeah, Seaton. I'm looking a little deeper into the George Gervin situation. You know who had the rights to it that was supposed to do it on his behalf and didn't? Alec Baum's parents. Damn it. No, that's. Oh, wait. Oh, wait, I'm confusing my stories. Oh, wow. Wow. Sorry. Yes. Yes.
Paulie Fusco
Okay, this is the question for the room. If you were the judge in this case and had to decide, how would you make your decision?
Dan Patrick
I would say Iceman. You're the original Iceman. You get it? Court adjourned. But he did make. He thought he had trademarked it. It's not like he. He all of a sudden go, oh, my gosh. I got to trademark that. He. He did think that he was filing the trademark papers. There was a death and they weren't able to. He did not realize that I. I would. I would give it to Iceman. Yes.
Paulie Fusco
Paul, some people use nicknames of people from the past, but if. If I refer to you by your nickname and it's more well known than your actual name, I think it's yours. Tiger Woods. No one calls him Eldrick. No one says, hey, George Gervin was on TV today. You say, I saw Ice Girvin on a TV show. Yeah, I think that would be the default judgment. No one goes, iceman Williams of the Bears. Yeah, no one says that yet.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but Gervin has, you know, he's got some kind of documentation. He's got a poster that says Iceman on it. I would just bring the poster to court, find him. I'm saying, here it is. That there's me. Yeah. Satan.
Mac McClung
I do.
Dan Patrick
I think there's something, too. If you bring all of them into court and line them up and ask the jury which one of them is Iceman, and they point to George Gervin, they're like, okay, that's clearly. You win. You get the patent. You do a. You do a focus group, and you bring the focus group in and say, all right, you line up Chuck Liddell, you line up Ice Gervin, you line up Caleb Williams. Go. Okay, who is Iceman? And you point. Now, if I'm. If I'm Gervin, I'm wearing my uniform. I'd be wearing my San Antonio spurs jersey.
Dan Hurley
Yes, Marvin, that said ice on the back.
Dan Patrick
Yes. Yes.
Dan Hurley
It doesn't say ice on the Chicago Bears uniform.
Dan Patrick
No, it doesn't.
Dan Hurley
One is Iceman. The other one is a guy that pretends to be cold.
Dan Patrick
I would. I would come in and do a finger roll. Like, I would do the little girl and finger roll there. Maybe grow his hair back. Get a fro back. Yes, Paulie.
Paulie Fusco
It's like if I said, oh, I saw. I was watching NFL Network and. LT was being interviewed. I'm referring to who.
Dan Patrick
Well, that's different. That is. Because that could be Lawrence Taylor or like, Danny and Tomlinson. Right, but those are just initials.
Paulie Fusco
I wonder if either of trademarked that for clothes or merchandise.
Dan Patrick
I don't know. But Abdul Carter also wanted to be called LT as well. It's weird. He wanted his number and he'd like to be called LT as well. I think he's changing his number again. Is Abdul Carter changing his number or did I make that up to 56? No, no, no, no. He can't do 56. But I don't know, for some reason, I thought maybe he was changing. He was changing something. All right, let me take a break. It's time for sausage and peppers. We also have our little batting helmets with ice cream in it. The nacho cheese dip. We have crab. Crab dogs. Is that what it is? Oh, boy. You guys don't come in sick on Monday or with a stomachache. All right, Todd.
Dan Hurley
I will try to avoid that.
Dan Patrick
All right. Everything in moderation. That's the problem.
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This episode of The Dan Patrick Show features highlight interviews and roundtable sports talk from the week, blending exclusive access to A-list guests with Dan Patrick’s signature humor and perspective. This "Best of" episode brings in-depth conversations with standout guests Mac McClung, G League scoring record holder, and Dan Hurley, head coach of the UConn Huskies, discussing careers, the evolving world of basketball, March Madness, NBA expansion, and cultural moments in sports. Banter among Dan’s co-hosts adds both comic relief and fan-level insight into the latest headlines and controversies.
Talking with Mac McClung about becoming the all-time leading scorer in G League history after a 59-point game.
On the physical toll of such performances:
On the difficulty of securing a roster spot:
On critics and defensive play:
On joining the Lakers as a rookie:
On dunking being both a blessing and a label:
On being left out of the Slam Dunk Contest:
On recruiting and NIL:
“I prefer having a core of homegrown boys...and supplement with transfers so it doesn’t feel so transactional...” – Dan Hurley [25:12]
Discussion about possible team names for a potential Las Vegas NBA expansion team:
“You don’t want your team called the Jokers. But then you have to trade for joker and get him in there.” – Dan Patrick [39:07]
The crew breaks down Caleb Williams’ and George Gervin’s competing trademark claims to “Iceman.”
Debate over who truly owns a sports nickname, with references to other common nicknames (like “LT”).
Mac McClung on NBA Realities:
“I had a coach tell me...‘You’re an NBA player, all you need is an opportunity.’ And I almost was laughing, like, well, you got to give me that opportunity.” [03:55]
Dan Hurley on March Madness:
“St. John’s getting a five seed after winning the Big East is—crap.” [22:15]
On Mid-Majors in Modern College Hoops:
“I think it’s only going to get tougher for mid-majors...but you’ll see more international players coming in.” [24:15]
On Nicknames and Ownership:
“If you line them up and ask the jury which one of them is Iceman, they’re going to point to George Gervin.” [50:58]
This episode gives listeners candid and insightful views into the personal journeys of Mac McClung and Dan Hurley, along with energetic group discussion on the evolving basketball landscape, March Madness excitement, and the quirks of sports culture. Through quick wit, informed sports analysis, and authentic storytelling, The Dan Patrick Show delivers an engaging mix of humor, expertise, and insider perspective for fans and newcomers alike.