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Teddi Mellencamp
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Teddi Mellencamp
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John Elway
To the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio.
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Dan Patrick
Hall of Famer John Elway back on the program. John, how you doing?
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John Elway
Dan, how you doing? I'm doing great.
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Dan Patrick
What's the. Is that a portrait or a jersey behind you there in your office?
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John Elway
It's a portrait.
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Dan Patrick
You have you.
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John Elway
Well, I was trying. I did. It adds color, so.
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Justin Jefferson
Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
I didn't think you would have Montana behind you, but. No, that's very nice.
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John Elway
Yeah. Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
Did you. Did you collect jerseys from those guys?
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John Elway
I did not. I did not. That fad came after me. Yeah, we never. Never really did that. Even though I do have a. I have a Merino and a Montana. I do have some, but it wasn't something we did all the time.
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Dan Patrick
Do you care where you're ranked all time? When rankings come out that greatest quarterbacks, I mean, you can't do anything about it now. But how competitive are you?
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John Elway
You know, I think that, you know, everybody, you know, everybody has different opinions on different players. Obviously, we're all in different situations. I think you just like to be in the conversation. Right. That's the key thing is if you're in the conversation, then you did all right during your career. And I think that, you know, you look at all the great quarterbacks that I played against that, you know, during our time that, you know, I have so much respect for. And sure, we were competitive when we were playing and wanted to be the best, but, you know, ultimately win football games and try to win world championships. And so, yeah, we were all competitive. But what's funny is, I think, you know, once we get away from the game, we're, you know, we were good friends, Durham, while we were playing, but probably better after we got done.
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Dan Patrick
But do you think you're better than Joe Montana or Tom? Like, you have to have that mindset to play the position that you're. You're the best at doing this.
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John Elway
I think. Yeah, I think so. I think that, you know, it's. When you're going through it, obviously certain guys do some things better than you do. They say, well, you know, I wish I could do that a little bit better, do it as good as Danny. Danny obviously had a tremendous release and got rid of the football quicker than anybody. But, you know, I think ultimately you have to believe that you're the best and that nobody can, you know, nobody can do it better than you can. I think that that is a mindset. You have to. Have to even have a chance to get into the conversation. Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
Marino was so ahead of his time with that five wide. No, no running back. I mean, they were running what you're running now, did you ever think, hey, let me talk to coach and see if we can run the same thing in Denver?
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John Elway
Yeah, I think, Yeah, I think that we were all kind of jealous of what Danny was doing down there because like you said, I mean, 1984, I think he threw for 5,000 yards.
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Dan Patrick
Right.
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John Elway
And that was in a 16 game schedule. And that had, you know, back then you just wanted to hopefully get to, you know, it was really 3,000 was a, was a good number. And then if, if you got to 4,000, that was like over the top. And so. And then Danny in his second year, you know, he got, what do you have, 48 touchdowns and over 5,000 yards. And so he got there in a hurry. And yeah, from that point, not point on, I think, you know, statistically we're all chasing Danny because he was, you know, setting the world on fire trying.
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Dan Patrick
To assess these rookie quarterbacks. I mean, even drafting, how difficult is it? You played the position at the highest of levels, but you're trying to find a quarterback. When you're with the Broncos, what is it that you're looking for and maybe what is it that you missed with these quarterbacks?
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John Elway
You know, Dan, I think it is such a combination you have to have. Not only do you have to have the quarterback, but I really believe even more important because all these kids coming out of college that are high draft picks, they are all great athletes, can throw it can make all the throws, can move around. And you know, I think the key thing is to get them in the right situation with the right coach, offensive coordinator, quarterback coach or head coach, I think is so important because how these kids are brought into the league and how they are brought along, because as you know, there is no patience anywhere in the NFL when it comes down to waiting on a young guy, especially at the quarterback position, to get used to playing in the NFL because it's a huge, huge jump. And so not only is it tough to find, it's hard to see what's inside. You can see it on tape, but it's hard to see what's inside. But I think the most important thing is, is that combination of a head coach or as I said, an offensive coordinator that brings that quarterback along slowly, doesn't get them, put them in situations where they're over their head. And because as you know, the criticism in the NFL can be a lot. And I think, and I always say this too, especially those high picks, they've been great in high school, they were great in college. They've always been Great athletes, and they've never experienced a lot of negative press. And I think that a lot of times the world can start caving in on them when they don't have success early, especially if they're put in situations that they can't handle, because not only is the complication of the offenses in the NFL, but also what they're doing defensively, and that takes a lot of time. And obviously, you got to be patient, be able to do that, which I think, you know, Sean Payton's doing a great job with Bo Nix and Denver. Why you're seeing him have the success that he's having because of the way that he's bringing them along. Obviously, Vance Joseph's got the defense going. They're playing great defense to where they're not loading everything up onto that quarterback and expecting him to win football games week in, a week out. And so I think that's the progression, and I think that's why, you know, we, you know, the success rate is not as good as it should be because of the fact of the combination of the player, but also the combination of the situation he's getting put in.
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Dan Patrick
Talking to John Elway, the Hall of Famer Tom Brady once said, if he was drafted in the first round, he wouldn't have survived. You started, Peyton. You guys were probably in over your heads those rookie years. And here's Brady, maybe the greatest quarterback or certainly the most decorated. He said, I needed to sit and watch. You didn't get that luxury. How over your head were you that first year? First couple of years, you know, Dan.
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John Elway
I was, you know, I was fortunate enough, looking back on it at the time, because my rookie year, I started the first four games, the first two games I played, I got benched at halftime. Steve deberg was a backup. And actually I got benched at halftime in Pittsburgh. And then we went to Baltimore. I got benched. Fortunately, Steve came in, we won both those football games. I started the next two games, and then Dan said, hey, listen, we're going to. We're going to make a change. And so Steve deberg ended up. I ended up getting bench after my fourth game, and which actually was the best thing that could ever, ever have happened to me because Steve deberg came in, played the next four games, and I had a chance to stand on the sideline. And so this is where I agree with Tom, and the fact that the perspective of not being in the middle of the Heat and having a chance to be the backup watch from the sideline was a big, big plus. For me. And then Steve ended up getting hurt in week and in the fifth game and then I was back in and he separated his shoulders. So I played the rest of the year. But that four week period that I sat on the bench helped me tremendously for the next time when I end up starting the last half of the season. So I think it's always good to, you know, not to be in that fire right away, to get a real good feel of exactly what's going on because nobody knows what a big jump it is coming from college football, the NFL, especially at the quarterback position. And, and so like I said that that four week time that I got bent was probably helped me the most of any, any time in my career.
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Dan Patrick
Steve Young has said on numerous occasions on this show he wishes he was playing now because they protect the quarterback. They're begging you to run, they protect you when you run. And he said that it's too easy now. What do you think about you in today's game, given your skills?
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John Elway
Well, you know, I think that yeah, obviously the rules have changed and you know, they're making the game a safer game, which is a good thing. Taking some of those unnecessary big hits out of the game. You know, obviously the quarterbacks are getting protected a lot more. You can't, you know, my biggest fear was, you know, defensive linemen falling off guys and hit me in the legs when I'm, you know, throwing a 25 yard comeback. All my weights on that front leg and you know, they can't hit there. And the other thing I always say too was, you know, I get asked many times as well who hit you the hardest. And it was usually the ground when they were on top of you and they landed on top of you. The ground is what hurt the most. Right. So they can't, they can't land on you anymore either. So, but you know, you know, that's the transition of the game. I still, you know, obviously what they do with the game and the pass the game, how important it is now that, you know, it'd be you don't get hit as much, but it's still a physical game. And I still say I wouldn't trade when I played, you know, back in the 80s and 90s to now, just because the games changed, the camaraderie's changed, the locker room to me was a place that was almost home for me. And so, and I think all that stuff's changed with the amount of money that's out there. That's, that's all changed. But you know, you know, even though I wouldn't change it, I'm not going to say it wouldn't be fun to play in today's game.
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Dan Patrick
When Fritzi said that we could get you on and he said that you've been suffering dupuytren and for people who don't understand, I have it. I have it in both hands.
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John Elway
Okay.
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Dan Patrick
And so when Fritzi said that you have this and you know, you're working with a pharmaceutical company and not. I had surgery on my right hand and I haven't. And it didn't really clear it up. So give me, help me understand what I can do. Explain the condition to the audience because there are a lot of people who have it and may not realize what they have, you know.
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John Elway
Yeah, you're right. It's amazing how many. You know, I think 5% of the population has dupuytren's contraction. It's really kind of a constriction of, of your hand, you know, your fingers and your hands and the cords in your hands. It's a collagen buildup in your hands to where, you know, your hand starts restricting. You can't put your hand flat on a table. You know, I don't have a lot of pain with it, but it was more of annoying the fact that it's. And it's a condition that doesn't get. It doesn't go away and it doesn't. You can make it better, but it doesn't go away. So it's a progressive condition. And so I just went to Greek, our trainer, and said, you know, what's going on with my hand? And so I didn't. To me, it was the annoyance. And so I end up with the non surgical side of it. And so it was much better that way. I know surgically it's six to eight weeks recovery, whereas the thing that I did was the non surgical was probably about a week to two weeks and it worked in both my hands. And so I'm now able to put my hands back on a table flat and I don't have that constriction.
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Dan Patrick
Oh. So how do, how do you help me, John?
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John Elway
Well, you know what, you're supposed to go find your hand specialist and ask them about the non surgical way to go about this and be able to release the collagen and the cords in your hand so they. You can stop the constriction.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah, I don't want to have surgery again. It's. Go to facts on hand.com for more information before I let you go. If I gave you two weeks to get ready, how far could you throw the football?
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John Elway
Oh, that is a good question. If he gave me two weeks, I think I could probably eventually get it to 50 yards, I think, but not positive. But then the recovery time might be longer than the one.
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Dan Patrick
Have you talked to Bo Nixon?
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John Elway
I have not had a chance to talk to him. I went out to OTAs and obviously it just got to town and so there was a lot of different things going on in his world and a lot of people pulling at him. But you had a chance to watch him and I think Denver's in great shape. They're excited about what he's doing and I think Sean and Davis Webb are doing a tremendous job and handling them and breaking them in the right way.
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Dan Patrick
Good to talk to you. John. Thanks for joining us.
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John Elway
My pleasure, Dan. Thanks for having me. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.
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Unknown
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Teddi Mellencamp
Small Business Saturday is right around the corner and so is that shop you've been meaning to check out on November 30th. Support your local community by shopping small on smart Small Business Saturday. Founded by American Express, this is Teddy.
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Unknown
Mellencamp and Tamara Judge from Two T's in a Pod.
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Tamara Judge
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Teddi Mellencamp
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Justin Jefferson
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Peter Schrager
It's Peter Schrager. We're back for the season with Peter Schrager. In each episode of the season, I'm going to empty my proverbial notebook and take you inside and behind the scene scenes on the conversations that happen at the highest levels of NFL franchises. You see, you'll be in the front office of an NFL team one week, but the next week you're going to be at a bar elbow to elbow with some of your favorite celebrities laughing about football, like Kansas City Chiefs fan Paul Rudd.
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John Elway
By the way, can I just point.
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Peter Schrager
Out how much I like the music of this podcast?
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Paul Skenes
Awesome.
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Justin Jefferson
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John Elway
Very good.
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Peter Schrager
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Dan Patrick
Try them for free@wasabi.com he is the National League Rookie of the Year. He's Paul Skenes, the Pirates pitcher Back on the program. Last time I saw you, when you got the honor, you had a fireplace scene behind you, look really nice and cozy. Did you make the fire?
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Paul Skenes
I did not, and I think it looked all right, but not quite as good as the fireplace scene you've got behind you.
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Dan Patrick
So that's why similar, but I'm not winning any awards. How did you celebrate when you. When you got the honor?
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Paul Skenes
Yeah, I mean, we had a number of my teammates and coaches and, you know, some people that have just kind of affected my career in the past couple years. So they were all there, got to celebrate with them, and, you know, just. It was nice to be able to experience it with them, because it takes a village to have any sort of success.
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Dan Patrick
What was it like in April when you're in the minor leagues, wanting to be called up but not getting that call?
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Paul Skenes
Yeah, I mean, that was the thing that, you know, people have been telling me, my parents, my coaches, that kind of thing since this time last year was just be patient, because we don't know what the plan is necessarily. We don't know. Like, I mean, truthfully, we didn't know how, you know, how I was going to be because I, you know, had a feeling that I was going to do, you know, have success, and I believed in myself and that kind of thing. But you don't really know how you're going to do until you're in it. So just be patient and put in the work and go compete, and then it'll take care of itself.
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Dan Patrick
How does your personality help you? Benefit you? Because you seem pretty even keel.
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Paul Skenes
Yeah, I think. I mean, it's just how I am, and I've. I think I've realized it a lot more over this year, this past year, this past season. It definitely doesn't hurt, I think, just being able to stay consistent in this game because. Because you can really ride the roller coaster, the ups and the downs through. Through 162. So just being able to stay consistent, and I think it helps me do that.
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Dan Patrick
Okay, but when you give up a home run, do you get mad? Internally, you don't show it, but when somebody hits a bomb off of you, what's going on?
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Paul Skenes
Yeah, sometimes I get mad. Sometimes. I mean, there's. I think there's pictures of me this year, like, smiling after I gave up a home run. Sometimes, frankly, sometimes I think it's funny. So, wait, why.
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Dan Patrick
Why is it funny?
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Paul Skenes
I mean, it's just, you know, kind of. Kind of their approach, whether they executed it or not, like there were There were a couple times where, you know, guys just jumped me this year and I was just like, well, whatever. You can't, you can't. You can't really avoid that to some extent. So who cares?
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Dan Patrick
What was it like facing Ohtani?
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Paul Skenes
It was cool. It was cool. Obviously, the, you know, the first AB and then the second AB he got me. But that, that is cool because we, you know, we went back to his, you know, back to their place and just having the opportunity to face him, I don't know, what, five or six times this year, and knowing that it's going to be five or six times next year and the year after that, like that, that's pretty cool to, to look forward to, where it's not just, you know, reading a scouting report and throwing to a certain, certain location, like you got to play baseball and, and actually get the guy out. It's. It's a cool, cool experience.
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Dan Patrick
He's the rookie of the year. Pirates pitcher Paul Skenes. What's a pitcher do in the off season?
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Paul Skenes
So what I, yeah, what I did was took three weeks completely off and really just let my body and my mind settle, relax for a little bit, and then got right back into it, throwing and lifting. This is the kind of the point in the off season where you're really just getting your butt kicked probably five times a week by the workouts, just because that's, you know, that's where we're at in the off season and got to build strength, build work, workload, work capacity, all that and ramping up. So it's not, it's not fun necessarily, but, you know, hopefully get to enjoy it a little bit too. Take some trips and that kind of thing.
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Dan Patrick
There. Now you're not a surprise. So the rest, you know, everybody gets a book on, whether it's a hitter or a pitcher. Do you work on anything? You add anything in your second season? Are you working on anything?
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Paul Skenes
Yeah, I think I will. I don't know exactly what it is going to be yet, because where I'm at, right. I just can't work on any, any other pitches right now. I'm only throwing fastballs. So that's something that I'm a little bit more present with it this off season rather than thinking about, because last off season I was kind of like, oh, I'm going to do this and this and this, and I was thinking about all that in September, but you can't really start doing that until December, January. So I'm. Now I'm kind of at the point where I'm like, all right, I'll. I'll figure it out a little bit in, you know, November, December. So I don't know exactly what the, you know, what the character of that's going to look like, but I think there's going to be something that I'll figure out because there are ways for me to get better.
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Dan Patrick
Do you have a baseball nearby?
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Paul Skenes
I don't. I don't.
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Dan Patrick
How is that possible? Shouldn't you have a baseball nearby, driving in your car, holding the bait? I mean, what are you doing? It's a cowboy without a hat on.
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Paul Skenes
I know if I were in the car, I would have it because I do drive with one in the car, but I don't have one right here. I got Christmas decorations, but not nothing else.
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Dan Patrick
Okay, we, we have to work on the background here, Paul. Like, if you're going to be this good for a long period of time, we have to have a better backdrop when we, when we have you on tv.
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Paul Skenes
Yeah, I'm figuring it out.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. I mean, the fireplace was great, don't get me wrong. But I mean, that looks like a college dorm that you got going on there. Get your girlfriend to spice it up a little bit. You know, let's. Let's do some decorating in there.
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Paul Skenes
Yeah, we'll do. Will do.
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Dan Patrick
Well, congratulations and well deserved. And thanks for joining us as always.
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Paul Skenes
Yeah, I appreciate you having me.
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Dan Patrick
That's Paul Schemes, Pirates pitcher, National league rookie of the year.
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John Elway
Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
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Unknown
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Teddi Mellencamp
Small Business Saturday is right around the corner, and so is that shop you've been meaning to check out on November 30th. Support your local community by shopping small on Small Business Saturday. Founded by American Express, this is Teddy.
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Unknown
Mellencamp and Tamara Judge from Two T's in a Pod.
- [26:36]
Tamara Judge
As a Delta SkyMiles member, you already know how to travel the world in style.
- [26:41]
Unknown
Now, with SkyMiles experiences, you can take your journey to new heights through exclusive access to a curated selection of one of a kind events.
- [26:51]
Tamara Judge
Whether it's backstage passes to your favorite concert, courtside seats at a major sporting event, or access to luxurious wellness retreats, you can use your miles to go to these unforgettable experiences.
- [27:04]
Unknown
Your membership is more than miles and your journey is more than a flight.
- [27:09]
Tamara Judge
Sky Miles Experiences offers collections spanning music, film, fashion, sports, wellness, adventure, and the culinary world. Whatever your passion, you'll find an adventure that's as unique as you are.
- [27:22]
Unknown
SkyMiles Experiences is just one more way Delta connects you to your world and the things that matter most. It's time to make your dream experiences reality.
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Tamara Judge
Visit delta.comskymiles experiences and use your miles to unlock your next unforgettable adventure. Today Not a Sky Miles member It's free and easy to sign up and start earning miles today. Terms apply.
- [27:45]
Peter Schrager
What's up everybody? It's Peter Schrager. We're back for the season with Peter Schrager. In each episode of the season, I'm going to empty my permission proverbial notebook and take you inside and behind the scenes on the conversations that happen at the highest levels of NFL franchises. You see, you'll be in the front office of an NFL team one week, but the next week you're going to be at a bar, elbow to elbow with some of your favorite celebrities laughing about football, like Kansas City Chiefs fan Paul Rudd.
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John Elway
By the way, can I just point.
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Peter Schrager
Out how much I like the music of this podcast?
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Justin Jefferson
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John Elway
Very good.
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Peter Schrager
It's very kind of like a funky beat. Listen to the season with Peter Schrager on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Justin Jefferson
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Dan Patrick
Zach Rosenblatt with the athletic Zach, you and Diana Rossini are chopping it up little bit here with the jets situation. Let me start with the firing of Joe Douglas. Did Joe Douglas have a chance to keep this job?
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Unknown
No, I, I think it was, it was always heading this way. You know, they went all in on this season, all in on Aaron Rogers when it falls apart so spectacular like it did. And when Woody's coming out and saying things like, you know, this is the best roster we've ever had since I've owned this team and they still keep losing. And, and you know, he made the decision to fire Robert Salah because he wanted to provide a spark and the spark never came. So Joe Douglas, the last year of his contract, they've never made the playoffs in six years. He was, he was headed towards his exit.
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Dan Patrick
Okay, but why now?
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Unknown
I think now it allows them to like, you know, they know he's not coming back. So this allows them to at least start putting out feelers, start researching who their next GM might be because they're, they're going to hire the GM first and then they'll hire the head coach is my impression. And so this gets them a little bit of a head start.
- [31:03]
Dan Patrick
But the owners involved in this, according to what you and Diana are reporting, Woody Johnson is heavy handed with Aaron Rodgers benching him, firing the coach and not even telling the GM and then firing the gm. Any chance you can replace Woody Johnson if you're the Jets?
- [31:22]
Unknown
I mean technically they might if he goes to join Donald Trump's administration again for the next four years. And then you have Christopher probably managing the day to day operations. But you know, it didn't necessarily work out last time that happened either, so. But it ultimately all starts at the top. Like that's just where all the problems start is with Woody. And so, and I don't see him leaving anytime soon.
- [31:41]
Dan Patrick
Okay, but let's just apply logic of you want to bench Aaron Rodgers. He was out all last year, everybody was waiting for him and he didn't play well. But now you're going to bench him and think that's going to provide a spark or give me the logic behind the. His thought process, I guess, to bench Aaron Rodgers.
- [32:01]
Unknown
Well, I would say your mistake is trying to apply logic. But what I would say is like, Woody, to his credit, or detriment, I don't know, depending on your perspective. He. He focuses on results over process all the time. Like, I know Bill Belichick kind of made fun of him and said he goes, ready, fire, aim, all the time. And I think that's kind of where he's at. So he's like, okay, we love Aaron Rodgers. He has a bad game against the Broncos. Okay, why is Aaron Rodgers bad? And, you know, Aaron Rodgers has a good game, they move on. They trade for devonte Adams, like, and it's like week by week, day by day with him. A lot of the time, I think. I don't think he sees the full picture. I think he looks at what's right in front of him. And that's why over the years, when the jets have had, like, a good season, like in, you know, 2015, they go 10 and 6. They go all in that off season, it fails, you know, 2022, this year, the last couple years. A couple years ago, they started off really well, looked like they had some promise, went all in Aaron Rodgers, and you understand why they did, but it obviously did not work out.
- [32:56]
Dan Patrick
Is this an attractive job, being the head coach of the jets in the off season?
- [33:01]
Unknown
Yeah, I mean, that's. That's the question they're going to have to answer. I would say if you're stacking it up with the other jobs that are likely going to be available, I don't think it would be the most appealing. Like, if you're looking at, like, a, you know, a Mike Frable, a Ben Johnson, these guys that are going to be at the top of every list. If you're weighing two situations, are you going to go to an organization that, number one, probably doesn't have a quarterback and you have an owner who medals and, you know, who knows what the GM is going to be like? There's a lot against it. They do have talent on this team. There's things you can build around, but there's a lot of factors that are going to be held against them as these, like, coaches are weighing, you know, jets or, you know, Cowboys, jets or whatever it is, Jaguars, like, these teams, like, you have to weigh that part of it for sure.
- [33:39]
Dan Patrick
The quarterbacking situation moving forward, who will be. Will Aaron Rodgers be the quarterback next year, in your opinion?
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Unknown
I don't think so. I. I think there was a point where Aaron himself would have said that he'd only come back if there's some continuity. You know, whether it's Jeff Ulbricht or Joe Douglas or Salah before that. If they came back, he'd come back. Everybody's gone now. Ulbricht's not coming back as that coach. And then on top of that, I don't know that Woody wants Aaron back next year. So I think it might be a mutual parting. You know, it's. It's just crazy how quickly the tone changes around here because, you know, you hear Aaron Rodgers, I believe in like January where he was saying, you know, I could play three or four more years. And, you know, it does not look like he's going to last that long.
- [34:20]
Dan Patrick
Because I don't know where they're going to be in the draft and if they're going to draft a quarterback again, is Aaron. Rod, how big a cap hit is Aaron Rodgers if he doesn't come back?
- [34:31]
Unknown
So he doesn't have any guaranteed money left after this year. They would have like a big, big dead cap hit that they'd have to inherit if they cut him, but that's money already paid to him, so he only has like a $20 million cap in next year. So ultimately it's not like a huge deal if they move on from him, but, you know, they don't have a lot of options. It's not a great free agency class, not supposed to be a great draft class. So it's not like the best year to be needing a quarterback, I would say.
- [34:52]
Dan Patrick
Well, we're offering up Sam Darnold, Zach, because Minnesota move on from him with J.J. mcCarthy. Can we bring Sam Darnold back to the scene of the crime where he played with the jets and now he's going to play with the Giants? What do you think?
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Unknown
I mean, that would be something.
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John Elway
I just don't.
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Unknown
I don't see Sam putting himself in that position again, though.
- [35:14]
Dan Patrick
Is it just a poorly run organization?
- [35:18]
Unknown
Yeah, I mean, I think you look at the track record, you know, just look at the facts. It's 14 years they haven't made the playoffs, and that's the most out of any North. It will be 14 at the end of the season, I should say. And that'll be the most of any of the four more North American sports, the major sports. So that's a level of futility that literally nobody else is dealing with at the moment. And ultimately they've got they've shuffled through coaches, quarterbacks, gms, and it remains the same. So it obviously starts at the top with the person who's been there the whole time.
- [35:48]
Dan Patrick
Great stuff. Zach, you and Diana, Please tell her we said hello. Great stuff on the jets in the Athletic.
- [35:54]
Unknown
Thanks, Dan.
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Peter Schrager
What's up everybody? It's Peter Schrager. We're back for the season with Peter Schrager. In each episode of the season, I'm going to empty my present proverbial notebook and take you inside and behind the scenes on the conversations that happen at the highest levels of NFL franchises. You see, you'll be in the front office of an NFL team one week, but the next week you're going to be at a bar, elbow to elbow with some of your favorite celebrities laughing about football, like Kansas City Chiefs fan Paul Rudd.
- [37:59]
John Elway
By the way, can I just point.
- [37:59]
Peter Schrager
Out how much I like the music of this podcast?
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Justin Jefferson
Incredible.
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John Elway
Very Good.
- [38:02]
Peter Schrager
It's very kind of like a funky beat. Listen to the season with Peter Schrager on the I Heart radio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Justin Jefferson
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Kyle Brandt
Hey, this is Kyle Brandtz. You're busy, I'm busy. But every single Monday, we take 10 minutes to dish out 10 takes, NFL life, whatever, but never more than 10 minutes. It's 10 takes with Kyle Brandt. Driving home from work, you got time for 10 takes. Taking a smoke break, you still smoke. You got time for 10 takes. Hiding in the bathroom at work, you got time for 10 takes. Listen to 10 takes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Justin Jefferson
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Teddi Mellencamp
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Justin Jefferson
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Dan Patrick
Iheart Women's Sports, Andy Staples on Three covering college football. Always great to talk to Andy. He's been on the road covering a lot of SEC games. So he's watched Georgia, Ole Miss. He had lsu, Florida. He's got Ole Miss, Florida this week, and then Texas, Texas, Texas A and M. So covering college football for on three sports, Always great to talk to you. Andy joins us now. First reaction to the rankings was what?
- [40:19]
Justin Jefferson
I'm glad they did this with Boise State. I am glad that they showed that a group of five team does not have to be the 12 seed that it is the the top four ranked conference champs will get the buys because I think this is going to help people understand how this process works a little better, even if that doesn't ultimately wind up happening. Because I think now you're looking at it and I'm curious because Boise State is kind of where they are and if they win the games they're supposed to win, I think they're probably going to stay there. The question for me is, does somebody from the Big 12 come up and jump them? Like, could Colorado keep winning and jump them? Because I look at the games Colorado has left, I don't know if they'd be able to jump them. So it may be that they're here.
- [41:05]
Dan Patrick
Well, the only thing about that is it is still a TV show like these games, getting a national champ. It's a TV show and they would probably love to have Dion and his son Travis Hunter in there. And I don't know. I mean, that's just the human element of this that I don't know how much that factors into something like this.
- [41:27]
Justin Jefferson
Well, the thing is, in this scenario, Colorado or whoever WINS the Big 12, whether that's Colorado, BYU, Arizona State still has a chance. They're going to get in. The only way they wouldn't get is this state. Army beats Notre Dame this weekend and then continues to win and then beats Tulane in the American Championship. That's where they wouldn't get in or would have a chance to get left out. So they're going to get in. They're going to be in the TV show and in fact, they might be in the TV show longer because they'd play a first round game instead of having a buy.
- [42:02]
Dan Patrick
All right, who got job last night?
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Justin Jefferson
I don't know that anybody got job. I, you know, I think Georgia probably is going, hey, is that all we're going to move up for beating Tennessee, but they have two losses, so they're going to have to deal with that and they're not. I think they're kind of trapped below Ole Miss because they lost by 18 to Ole Miss and that game was never close. So they're, they're pretty much stuck where they are. I still just like last week and again, I don't the situation didn't change. I don't understand why SMU is eight is five spots below Miami. They're the same thing. But the good news about that is it'll take care of itself because if they keep winning, they'll play each other and we'll figure it out.
- [42:42]
Dan Patrick
If Indiana loses badly to Ohio State.
- [42:48]
Justin Jefferson
If Indiana loses very badly to Ohio State, I think you'll see Indiana sitting about where Tennessee is sitting right now, which would be kind of first team out territory or it's going to be right along the cut line. I don't know exactly where it's going to be. I don't think that's going to happen though, Dan. I think Indiana is going to give him a game. I think the unfortunate news out of Columbus from Tuesday night that Seth McLaughlin, the Ohio State center is out for the year, I think that probably changes the tone of this game quite a bit. I thought Indiana was going to play them close anyway. Now I'm looking at as Indiana can play them close, but Indiana can win this thing. And if Indiana wins this game, then you're going to see some, some serious machinations in the poll next week because Indiana is going to move up to 2 or to 3 or something like that. And then where do you put Ohio State if they have two losses?
- [43:39]
Dan Patrick
How many losses do you think you can have and still get into the playoffs?
- [43:44]
Justin Jefferson
This year it's two. I think there will be years where it's three. This year it's two. Now with the automatic bids you could theoretically have like a four loss conference champ that gets in depending on on the league. But if you look at it right now, I don't know that you're going to have more than a two loss team even playing for a conference championship. There's a chance that could happen in the Big 12, but right now it looks like you're probably going to have to be 10 and 2 or better.
- [44:14]
Dan Patrick
You have some SEC teams, they're kind of their cupcake weekend. Can you see SEC teams avoiding Wofford and Mercer and some UT Chattanooga in future years?
- [44:29]
Justin Jefferson
Yeah, because I think eventually they're going to move to nine conference games. They're waiting on ESPN to pay them some more to get to that nine con, but they want to do nine conference games. There's the leadership of the SEC and also most of the schools want to move to nine conference games because they want to sell more tickets. They feel like that's a better way to sell tickets than bringing in Wofford. But they're not going to do it without ESPN paying up for it. But it is again something they want to do because right now the way the schedule works beyond 2025, if they keep doing what they're doing, Texas and Texas A and M won't be an annual game. And I'm sorry you're not running your business properly if they're in your league and that's not an annual game.
- [45:09]
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but I don't know if rivalries matter. I mean, they matter to us because we grew up with those rivalries. I don't know how much they matter.
- [45:18]
Justin Jefferson
Anymore in the grand scheme of college football. National championship, maybe not. But I'm telling you right now, watch how things go next week when Texas and Texas A and M get ready to play for the first time since 2011. It would be insane. You're in television, Dan. Like, you have a TV show. It's the greatest TV show. And the fact that you have this TV show that is guaranteed ratings, guaranteed monster number. You're going to say we can just do it twice every four years. They're not going to do that. They're just not.
- [45:54]
Dan Patrick
He's Andy Staples. He covers college football for on three. I know it's not a report, but it's still there. And it's Dion's best friend, Michael Irvin, who is spreading the Dion to the Cowboys rumors. Dion saying all the right things, you know, because he has to. Look, he's playing, you know, you got games going on, you got recruits. He's not going to say, hey, I'm all in if the Cowboys call. Plus, Mike McCarthy is still employed there. Separate fact from fiction with what's going on with this.
- [46:27]
Justin Jefferson
So I just think this is the first take. Fever dream, right? This is. This is Stephen A. Smith just wish casting the greatest thing that could ever happen to him. Because think about the two topics that guarantee conflict, that guarantee eyeballs. The Cowboys and Deion Sanders. Like it is. It is the wet dream of anyone who hosts a sports debate show. And I think that's where this is coming from. I don't think that's going to happen. If you look at what Deion's doing, he's actually prepping for more of a career at Colorado. And I had my questions early on, like when Shador was gone, when Shiloh was gone, when Travis Hunter was gone, would he still want to be there? So they're. They're in the process of flipping a top quarterback recruit from Georgia named Julian Lewis, who was committed to usc. He's probably going to commit to Colorado. They had Alabama's best offensive line recruit in town for an official visit last week. They're trying to flip him, too. Like, they are certainly acting like Dion plans to be at Colorado and try to keep winning games in the Big 12.
- [47:39]
Dan Patrick
Before I let you go, the team's on the outside right now. Smu Tennessee, Arizona State, Army. Which one is in the best shape to make a playoff spot?
- [47:48]
Justin Jefferson
Army. Because if they win against Notre Dame and they win against Tulane, they're going to be in the playoffs.
- [47:57]
Dan Patrick
Tulane's pretty good. Tulane is sneaky good. So very good.
- [48:01]
Justin Jefferson
That John Sumrall, the coach at Tulane, is a name your your viewers and listeners need to know because he's kind of the next one. There may not be a job open in the SEC this year. John Sumrall would have gotten the Kentucky job had Mark Stoops gone to Texas A and M last year. All the SEC schools who may or may not fire their coach next year are looking very hard at John Sumrall.
- [48:22]
Dan Patrick
Thank you, Andy. Safe travels.
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Justin Jefferson
Thank you, Dan. Appreciate it.
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Tamara Judge
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Dan Patrick
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Justin Jefferson
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Dan Patrick
Only one problem.
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Justin Jefferson
You have no clue how to pronounce the name Jiali. Is that even English? The bartender is now heading your way as you're about to order nice cold jai alai. You hear, Can I get a high lie? High lie.
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Dan Patrick
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Kyle Brandt
Hey, this is Kyle Brandt. You're busy, I'm busy. But every single Monday we take 10 minutes to dish out 10 takes. NFL Life, whatever, but never more than 10 minutes. It's 10 takes with Kyle Brandt driving home from work. You got time for 10 takes. Taking a smoked break, you still smoke. You got time for 10 takes. Hiding in the bathroom at work, you got time for 10 takes. Listen to 10 takes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Peter Schrager
It's Peter Schrager. We're Back for the season with Peter Schrager. In each episode of the season, I'm going to empty my proverbial notebook and take you inside and behind the scenes on the conversations that happen at the highest levels of NFL franchises. You see, you'll be in the front office of an NFL team one week, but the next week you're going to be at a bar elbow to elbow with some of your favorite celebrities laughing about football, like Kansas City Chiefs fan Paul Rudd.
- [50:33]
John Elway
By the way, can I just point.
- [50:34]
Peter Schrager
Out how much I like the music of this podcast?
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John Elway
Awesome.
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Justin Jefferson
Incredible.
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John Elway
Very good.
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Peter Schrager
It's very kind of like a funky beat. Listen to the season with Peter Schrager on the I Heart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.
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