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Sam
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Cavino
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Cavino
Find your local station for Cavino and rich@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR Rings. We got to talk about rings. Do they matter or do they not matter? Okay, because I'm hearing all sorts of different things about rings.
Danny G
And who can I ask? Your girlfriend of six years, seven years?
Cavino
I mean, why would you say that right before a big party? She's gonna be.
Danny G
Sorry.
Cavino
Yeah, she's gonna be in Vegas with me. Like, can we.
Danny G
My bad.
Cavino
I've already made a few mistakes in Vegas. Dude, I don't need to do that again. But now, of course they matter in life, but do they matter in sports? Because someone very prominent in the NBA said no. We discussed that yesterday. And then as of today, there's a lot of other prominent people, teammates of LeBron that are saying they matter a lot. So we'll dive into that. We'll talk about watches today if we have time. But let's get into this now. Game six. Okc. Okc. Up three games to two. It's a must. Watch Iowa. Sam, you watching? Danny G's gotta be watching. He's our resident NBA guru. You guys are tuning in, right?
Dan Beyer
100%. And remember, the Pacers don't lose very often. Back to back.
Cavino
True. And you know, Sam's a little jaded because he's so, he's so in that Caitlin Clark zone that nothing really compares to him. And she is bringing the fire. I'm not seeing many people in the NBA bringing the fire. She's bringing you watching Sam.
Danny G
Well, I saw, I saw. I would say I'm looking at a picture of Caitlin Clark singing Sinead. Ok, o' Connor, nothing compares to you.
Cavino
Nothing compares to you.
Mike
Mike and I, Mike Lingar, the guy.
Cavino
Who runs this place, we will be driving to Vegas while the game, so.
Mike
We'Ll find it on the radio or.
Dan Beyer
On streaming and we'll be listening to that game.
Cavino
Yeah, yeah, it's exciting. That's fun. So, yeah, we got to be tuned in because the Pacers need to win to push a game seven. It's as simple as that. But the side story is, well, was that Halliburton playing or not? Was a game time decision. But Shams is saying that he's probably going to play. So it's a matter of, well, are we going to take his word for it or not? But we'll find out soon. And we'll stay tuned with Dan Beyer, who's got your updates. All right, Danny G's on the phones at 877-99-FOX. But the question is this, would you play? Do you think he should play? If you're not 100%, do you go out and do your best? Do you sit it out? Does it matter? Because it's the NBA finals, I think it does. But I'll explain because I've always lived by this theory. Again, COVINO and Rich, 87799 on Fox CRC. Eve, I always live by the theory of if I'm not feeling close to 100% because especially at this age, when are you ever really 100% ever? Yeah, right. But if you're not close to 100%, maybe you sit it out because you're not bringing your best and then, oh, that's lame at that point. I mean, you're bad company. Like, all right, let's say you had a hot date, but on that night you had a big pimple on your nose. Are you going to feel that confident on that date? And I know that's a lame example, but that's just the example. Are you going to feel your ultimate confidence on that date? Are you going to bring your ultimate best? Maybe it's best to sit it out that night and then when you're feeling better, you bring it all the way. You deliver, you show that you're the man and you leave a great impression. So in life, sometimes I'm, I'm understanding if you sit it out because you're not feeling that great because sometimes you're just in your head because you're not good company.
Danny G
I mean, your example, while ridiculous, is a good one.
Cavino
I mean, if it's a sore throat, whatever the case may be, you got got a bad Haircut, who cares? Whatever is making you feel like ass.
Danny G
If you got a date with the woman of your dreams. She finally said, yeah, let's get a drink. And you got, as you said, a big pimple right on the tip of your nose.
Cavino
Are you going to bring your best? Especially if it's the woman of your dreams? You want to take that chance on that night? I want to see her when I'm feeling my dopest, my sweetest, the closest to 100% that I am or that I can.
Danny G
But then is it a little, isn't that a, a little bit of a type of move to say, I'm gonna sit it out? Because I don't, because I'm not feeling a hundo percent? I always assume this, especially in the NFL. Danny, I feel like you back me up because every week when the injury reports come out, if a guy on my team who I know is a baller, if he can't play, I'm assuming like, yo, he can't play. Because these guys, you don't think they want to push it, right?
Dan Beyer
Yeah. And the other thing about Holly is that he is a facilitator. I love that word. And he, he's an assist minded guy. He, he wants to pass the ball first.
Cavino
Yeah, but is he really helping the team if he's not 100%? That's the question you need to keep in mind. And that's my point in saying, in life, are you really helping yourself if you're going out? If you're not feeling that great, maybe it's best to sit it out. However, these are extreme circumstances. This is the NBA Finals. This is do or die. Your team's got to win. I think you need to show up in this big moment. But think about it. Could he be hurting the team by playing at 50, 60%? We don't know how hurt he is. And that's also a tough decision. How many times in life where stakes aren't as high, you sit there and you deliberate on, man, should I go to work? Should I not? Maybe I could push through. I don't know, should I go to the gym? Should I not? Should I go on this date, should I not? Because you're just not feeling that great. Those decisions are hard enough, you know, in life. Imagine how he must feel knowing that if he pushes it too hard, he might permanently injure himself. And it's not a guarantee. When you're an investment nowadays, you're not just a basketball player showing heart.
Dan Beyer
What about just emotionally lifting your team up the way Willis Reed did for the Knicks. He limped out. He wasn't the star of that game. A lot of people don't know how that entire game played out.
Cavino
Legendary moment. Different era, though, too. That's. That's what we need to keep in mind. Of course, we all want to see Halliburton get out there. The old Daniel LaRussa's gonna fight. Everybody loves the old Daniel Lewis is gonna fight. It's a big surprise to everybody. Like, hell, yeah, it is lifting. But it's a different world we live in now where, I don't know, guys just don't play with that same amount of recklessness and heart that they used to because they can't. I'm not saying because they don't want to. I'm saying because they can't because of their career trajectory and how much is put on them, investment wise. So play or not.
Danny G
I feel like perception wise. And for the team that he's a leader of, for a guy that was doing the Reggie Miller choke symbol against the Knicks, for the guy that's been making some good wise cracks with the media, he's the type of guy that just. His pure presence, like, yo, I'm going to give it a go, is a morale booster to Indiana. I feel like if he sits out, which it doesn't seem like he will, he's going to give it a go. But if he sits out tonight, I feel like just like you're putting the vibe out there that, like, it's over. Like, yo, he's not even gonna give it a go. Season's over. Give it to okc.
Cavino
We all want him to play. There's no doubt about it, and it looks like he is. But based on this, we just posed a question. Is it always the best idea? And, you know, let me bring up Kevin Durant. Look what happened to him when he wanted to push it and show that he was the man. And, you know, I want to be moral, support and lift the team and spirit and show that I got heart and do it. It set him back with a major injury. So it's not always the greatest thing. And like you said, going on that date, Rich, when you're not feeling that good, maybe you don't bring your best and maybe she thinks you're lame for it and you just see blocked yourself and your potential with that woman. Maybe sometimes a little rest is okay, but again, NBA Finals, a much different story, especially at game six.
Danny G
Yeah, I can't imagine if you're a baller and competitor you're going to want to be out there, especially with your team, that you've taken it this far. You're at game six. Listen, there's only potentially one more game after this. And I know you're saying you don't want to risk major injury, but unless your damn leg is hanging off or your shoulders like dislocated and you can't shoot a basketball unless something so dramatic is going on, I think even perception wise, wheel them out or something just to get the theme theatrics going right. The game's in Indiana. Like, get the crowd amped up. Like, there he is, he's playing. Daniel LaRuss is going to fight. Like you said.
Cavino
This takes me back to grade school. In fact, Rich, when you'd have a little sore throat, your mom would rub Vic's VapoRub on you. I mean, she rubbed it on me. I don't know if your mom rubbed it on you.
Danny G
No, your mom rubbed it on me.
Cavino
And she would say, sana, sana culito de rana. And she would give me some Sucrets or chloraseptic, you know, Throwback Thursday sort of stuff. Ludens pine brothers. And you're like, ah, I don't know if I can go to school. And you sit it out. By the time Price is Right was on, you realized at that point that you probably could have went. And that was the worst feeling ever. I mean, I love playing hooky and sitting out, but you know, if you like score, if you had a game that day or yeah, you didn't want to miss gym class or, you know, you wanted to see the hot girl in school, you did feel bad or feel guilty for not showing up. When midway through the day you realize you probably could have on the highest of levels Halliburton has to be feeling, man, if I don't go in, I'm always going to regret it. So that's probably why he's going to push himself. And the latest update, Sham says he's probably going to play. But as far as I know, still a game time decision to see whether or not Daniel LaRusso is going to fight. Daniel LaRusso just. I love that the crowd goes wild.
Danny G
Cove I. I want to put it in perspective also. What do we see every NFL season when a guy like Joe Burrow or a guy like Lamar Jackson or, you know, someone of that nature gets knocked out of the playoff situation, like, ah, they'll be back next year. And we often realize that's that's like lip service that's like. That's like someone saying, oh, you, you got pooped on. Oh, that's good luck. Oh, it rained on your wedding day. Oh, that's just good luck. Sometimes you just say things to make people feel better. Indiana is a great team, but with the Knicks getting better, with Boston still being the Celtics, it's not like this. Given where, oh, the Pacers will be the team for years to come, this might be Halliburton and Siakam and these guys. One real chance, one real.
Cavino
It's a great point. And you have to go all out, right? But is his 60, 70% better than the next person's 100%? That's really the question here.
Danny G
And talk recently about those moments where those miraculous sick games and people playing for something. Like, there's always these moments. And for all you know, we're. We're three hours away from. Remember that game where Halliburton played Hurt and he facilitated, as Danny said, and yo, Indiana, it. They took it at game seven and that's how they won. Like, this might be the story.
Cavino
He comes out lacing up his new Puma shoes. Everyone gets all excited. It's a nice theatrical moment. It could be a memorable moment.
Danny G
Am I wrong by saying that? Am I wrong by saying the In State, the In arena broadcast team, the scoreboard, the special effects, you don't think that they should play into this? Like, be like, yo, he's gonna play. All right, let's make it grandioso. Let's make this a deal, you know?
Cavino
Oh, I don't think that's what we're sitting on, what we're waiting for. And like I said, I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for Dan Byer to have a sweet update for us on it, because that's what we're discussing. He's most likely going to play, but is it at the detriment to his team? It's almost like you have to be unselfish here, too. What is really best, someone else's 100% or your 60, 70%? And let me give you another example. We mentioned Kevin Durant. What could happen if you overextend yourself to try to be the hero? What about Nestor Cortez last year? Nasty Nestor hadn't pitched in a month. And what did he do? He said all the right things and all the cool things. Like, yo, man, if the team needs me, I don't care if I permanently hurt myself. I don't care if it's a career ending injury. I want to win. That ring with the Yankees, put me in there, I'll go all out. Dude hadn't pitched in a month. He goes out. He goes out there and gets shelled. Freddie Freeman hits a grand slam. Game over, set the tone. Game 1 and the Dodgers win the World Series. That's miserable. So his. His 60% set the team back. You see what I mean? Like, I know we all want this heroic story, but at least the other side, it's not always the best decision.
Danny G
Hey, Cove, repeat after me just one time. Gibby, meet Freddie.
Cavino
Gibby, meet Freddie.
Danny G
I know, but think about it.
Cavino
That. That was. That was him being almost a little too selfless. I don't know how you want to look at it, but at the detriment of his team, someone else would have probably been better off in that situation than Nestor, who was pitching on All Heart. Again, the intention was, Was, was there, but guess what? His arm was not. Freddie Freeman teed off on the guy.
Dan Beyer
Freddie Freeman was playing injured, and he was almost a detriment on defense, remember?
Cavino
True.
Dan Beyer
So it goes both ways.
Danny G
But you know what? Yeah. If Freddy's. If Freddie's too much of a wuss, he's not taking that at bat and he's like, I'm injured, guys.
Cavino
Was him showing all that heart and saying all the right things really worth it? That set, the Tony Yankees had no shot after that. And that could be what Halliburton brings tonight. Could be not wishing for that at all. And again, that all is speculation on how hurt he really is. We don't know. And it goes back to tolerance. Right? Sometimes you push through and other people stay home. Everyone's different. We'll see how tough he is tonight.
Dan Beyer
Yeah, There's a quote from him. He says it's the Finals. I worked my whole life to get here. If I can walk, I can play.
Cavino
I like, I like the attitude, Danny. I mean, that's.
Danny G
That's sort of what I was thinking as far as, like, you play your whole life, Covino, it's there. There are so few people that get this opportunity, the, The. The honor to play in the NBA, the mlb, the NFL. If you are like, on the borderline of can I play or not? In the biggest game of your life, what's. Has Halliburton played in a bigger game than an elimination NBA Finals, game six. You're right. Unless he. Unless he needs to be in a wheelchair, this guy's going to try. He's going to try.
Cavino
Let me make this clear, too, on my behalf. I'm. I'm Cavino. That is Rich, Danny G, Sam Beyer. Everybody's hanging out. I want to make it clear that I agree with you. I want him out there. We all want him out there. We want to see a great Game six. We want to see some heroic stuff happen tonight. Want to see him lace it up. We want to see something, like you said, theatrical. But I am just giving you other things to think about. It's not always the best decision. Sometimes it is best to sit out, even. Even though it's tough to sit it out.
Dan Beyer
I'll give you an example of our industry. Chick Hearn. Back in the day, he was going for a record of X amount of broadcasts in a row, and he had laryngitis. It was so bad, you could only make out, like, every third word he was saying in the first half of this Lakers game. It was bad. So in our business, it would almost be like if it was a show you guys really needed to do, but you had laryngitis and it was hard to listen to.
Cavino
You got to push it through, you know? On a funny note, we have our big event tomorrow from Vegas, right? Hundreds of people showing up from all over the country to party with us at Circa. We're going to be doing it live here on Fox Sports Radio, poolside. It's going to be great. And we're going to be boozing and schmoozing and broadcasting and shaking hands and high fives. And Rich Davis here is losing his voice as we speak.
Danny G
As we speak.
Cavino
He's like.
Dan Beyer
My example hit too close to home.
Danny G
I'm gonna wake up tomorrow and I'm like, guys, I'm gonna broadcast. I'm gonna do it.
Cavino
I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. If I have half a voice. Yeah, if I could even whisper, I'm in. All right. Way to go, man. So I just hope that he brings it. I hope we don't see a crappy effort because he's trying too hard where he's, you know, just not at his best. What do you do in life based on that? A game six, you got to show up. It's the NBA Finals. That's clear. If you can. But in life, if you're not 100%, do you show up or not?
Danny G
I think a lot of times you sit them out, and then you wish you would have, like, your Price is Right theory is, I feel like that's life. So many times you're like, yeah, I'm tired, man. I'm not gonna go out tonight. Then your buddies all have a great time. You're like, man, I really could have gone out very much. Like you said, when you're a kid, 11am hit, you're watching Price is Right, you're playing Plinko with grandma, and you realize that the reality is that was.
Cavino
The day he played seven up and you played kickball and oh, you missed that on all the fun. Oh, man. DB what are your thoughts on this, man?
Mike
Well, I just want to draw a parallel. It's not exact, but I'm curious on your guys thoughts because Halliburton is injured. But it reminds me of the dilemma. Say, like in the Little League World Series, do you want your stud pitcher, who's probably 17 years old, to pitch in that game before you get to the championship game, or do you want him to pitch. If you get to that championship game, you want him to pitch in that one? Because I think there's a good chance that Halliburton may not be 100% tonight. And if he's not 100% tonight and plays 40 minutes, he's probably not going to be 100% for Game 7. But if you didn't play him tonight, you have no guarantee that there is a game seven. And so, like, it may pay off if you held them out and were able to win. But it reminds me, you know, that.
Cavino
Little league decision, such a great point.
Mike
Where you can only have like 60 pitches or, you know, you can't. You're at your pitch limit for, for youth baseball.
Cavino
And if you just remember, when we.
Danny G
Play, when we play games on our show, when we play last one standing and I save an answer and then give a wrong answer, I'm like, why did I not use that?
Cavino
Yeah, yeah. Do you use Halliburton tonight? Getting short game seven, you would almost.
Dan Beyer
Have to live by. Anything can happen in a game seven because you just got to make it there.
Mike
I agree with Danny. I would. Yeah, I would. I would play him tonight. And then whatever happens, happens. But you have to get there first.
Cavino
And for the record, like I said, maybe, maybe you were on vacation, maybe you were hitting the head. Who knows? He's dealing with a right calf strain. That's really what it is.
Dan Beyer
Shaq is just finding out by hearing you right now on the Iheartra.
Danny G
Yeah, he's a deal.
Cavino
I was in the ocean. I missed the whole thing. All right, well, here's why. In life, though, in regular life, right, not everyone's living a Game 6 sort of life, but in regular life, maybe sometimes it is Best to sit out, because when you push too hard, maybe you're exposing yourself, perhaps, or maybe you're making things worse. I don't know. Like we said, nasty Nestor or kd. I got in a car accident in the past year, and it was right before a big meeting we had. You guys remember that?
Danny G
Yeah, I did.
Cavino
Right before a big meeting. We left the studio, I pulled out of the parking lot, and some jabroni totaled my car. And I was all shaken up like anyone else is after a car accident, but I was okay. However, I did have significant whiplash, and I was sort of dazed and confused as to what just happened. But I know we had this big meeting with big clients here at Fox Sports Radio, and Rich came and picked me up. We went to this restaurant and had this big meeting, and you know, where I would have normally brought my hundred percent or anything close to 100% as I would have brought. I'm there at, like 40% days, like a dope, and all these guys think I'm a dope as a result.
Danny G
I should put you. I should have left you in the blue tent.
Cavino
So, like, maybe, like. Yeah, I wanted to show that, yeah, man, I'm still here, and I want to show that I'm. I'm a team player, but did I really bring my best in that moment? The next time I saw those people, and they're the best, they were like, yeah, dude, we knew something was off, man. Are you.
Dan Beyer
Is that. Is that the time you told the sponsor about your idea for alcohol ice cubes?
Cavino
Yeah, Like, I was. Dude, I was, like, zoned out like a zombie, you know, I wasn't myself. Maybe I should have sat it out. I think there's sometimes in life where it's okay and you just. You want to push and you want to do the right thing, but maybe doing the right thing is actually the wrong thing. That's all I'm saying. We all want to see Halliburton get out there. No doubt.
Danny G
I remember Cavino in that meeting. He was like, tire rack. I mean, I love tires.
Cavino
They thought I was an idiot. Respectfully, of course. And I am. But, I mean, they thought, like, what's up with this guy? What's. What's wrong with this guy? I was there, like, drop.
Danny G
We should have dropped Kavito off at a little. And then.
Cavino
And then, you know, what happened, Rich? I'm justifying that. I just got in that accident. I'm telling everybody my sob story. Like, that's not the impression I wanted to give. So think about it. And let's get to some phone calls. We got Travis in LA on the Covino and Rich show, FOX Sports Radio. Yo, Travis, are you on your way to Vegas? What's going on, buddy?
Travis
Tomorrow morning. Short drive. Yeah.
Danny G
Nice.
Cavino
Nice.
Danny G
Awesome.
Cavino
So what are your thoughts, man?
Travis
So I almost like the topic too much because I studied psychology in college and I agree with your side of it. You know what I always think about? I think about bands on tour. Like, what do they do when they get in a fight with their girlfriend or something like an hour before the show? Now you got to play songs that are sad, happy, all these things. How are you supposed to do that? You know?
Cavino
You know, dude, it's something that. When you work in entertainment, I guess you could say we loosely do that. It's obvious. We live real lives, and there's ups and downs all the time, right? Your wife or girlfriend busting your chops. Your kids are a pain in the ass. I think a lot of people, not everybody, but a lot of people. I can tell you straight up, I'm one of those guys that could usually compartmentalize. Just like you have to compartmentalize that word in order to say it.
Danny G
Compartmentalize.
Cavino
You have to compartmentalize your life. And it's like that show Severance, when I'm at work, you know, my daughter being a pain, a teenage pain in the ass is sort of forgotten in that moment. And I think this is sort of the escape, and that's how it works psychologically, at least for people like me.
Danny G
But he's right, though. I mean, guys like, you know, I've always thought that was such a quality of yours. Like, Kavino would be going through some real life terrible drama, and he would just bring it on the air. Some people could check out some people.
Cavino
Yeah.
Danny G
Some people live like you are, like the TV show Severance, where other people. A baseball player might be slumping, you know, maybe gets his wife asked for a divorce, you know?
Cavino
Yeah. Not everybody's like that. It's different.
Danny G
Zach came up with a great example. Imagine if you're a rock star and you got to sing love ballads on stage and the person you wrote that song about, you hate in the moment.
Cavino
Oh, yeah, that's. It's tough. But, you know, it's a job. It's a gig. You can't. You got. You know, the show must go on, as the saying goes, but sometimes it's at the detriment of your reputation, of you. And we're hoping for Halliburton. It's not of his team at this point. So it looks like he's going to play. We'll keep you posted. That's the latest report from Shams. The right calf strain. And you never know, if he pushes it, could hurt it even more. We're still getting phone calls.
Danny G
Do you think there's anyone in OKC that's like, yeah, give them tonight, I want to win at home, game seven. Or you think it's like, no, no, let's win now. There's always some people that are like, at home. The NBA road celebrations stink compared to home.
Cavino
And by the way, Rich, you know what else I'm thinking about? I'm thinking about how generationally it is a little different. There's some generations that want to always push through and push through and push through. And then there's other generations and I'm not calling people out that just don't push through as hard, you know, so it's case by case. Jesse in Indiana, what are your thoughts?
Travis
Hey, how's it going?
Cavino
What's up?
Travis
I just. So my personal opinion on this is I think Halliburton should play.
Cavino
Yeah.
Travis
But I don't think he should start. I think McConnell should start over. Him playing limited minutes, you know, when he's ready, when he's feeling it. Rick Carlisle put him in when he's, you know, hey, gas getting tight. Put McConnell back in.
Cavino
Hey, you ever think his strategy too, that happens in sports? Like maybe he's all right and it's just messing with OKC for them to think that he is hurt and then he comes out and lights it up.
Danny G
Yeah, dude. I've thought about like even strategies like he was insinuating. What if you don't start them? And what if, what if the Pacers are winning by eight in the, you know, first quarter? Winning, you know, double digit lead at halftime. You could really play it safe. I've always thought that with baseball and I know people in baseball say pitchers have such a routine, but let me give you the example. Let's say the Tigers are in a playoff game and they have school ready to start. If the Tigers put up a six spot in the top of the first inning, don't you feel like you want to be like, no, no, no, save him for tomorrow.
Cavino
Yeah. I mean, you think. But pitchers are so particular about the routines. Professional athletes are weird like that.
Danny G
Yeah. But I'm just thinking maybe that's the solution. Maybe you don't start them and you see how things go. You know, it really, it's.
Cavino
I mean it's not the Niners.
Danny G
The Niners have taken that approach in the past with McCaffrey where it's like, you know, let's go light until we see if we really need him in this matchup.
Cavino
Do we have Jesse in Indiana? Jesse, thank you so much Travis. I also want to thank you. Hope to see you in Vegas. Now we'll get to the rest of your phone calls. 8779 on Fox next. And we're going to talk rings. Do they matter or not? An old school and 50 hits. But let's get to our good pal, the great Dan Byer.
Mike
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Cavino
I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here.
Danny G
And I'll say it seems like the.
Cavino
Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves.
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Danny G
Listen to the American west with Dan.
Cavino
Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts.
Danny G
Or wherever you get your podcasts.
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It's really, really really bad.
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Cavino
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Rich
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Cavino
Hi George.
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Cavino
And now it's time for our tire rack play of the day. This time, the Dodgers handled the Padres in walk off fashion.
Danny G
Smith pushes a fly ball right center field. Tatis on the run at the warning track at the wall.
Cavino
It is gone. It's gone.
Danny G
And this game is over. They celebrate in front of the plate.
Cavino
A walk off home run for Will Smith.
Danny G
The Dodgers win in the ninth, four to three. Wow. Courtesy of AM570 Dodgers Audio Network. And that's a Tyrac play of the day and a for over 40 years, Tire Rack's been driving customers and helping them find the right tires for how, what and where they drive. Ship fast and free. Backed by free road hazard protection. Convenient installation options like mobile tire installation, tirerack.com, the way tire buying should be in Covino. You heard it there in the clip. I have a theory that you will resist because you're a Yankees fan. And I hate to say it because I'm not a Dodgers fan, but you got to give it to them, man, when they win in walk off fashion. And that I Love LA song hits in the background.
Cavino
I don't like that song. The song from Naked Gun sounds like a. Like a campy 80s cheesy comedy song.
Dan Beyer
Covino would rather hear Fat Joe.
Cavino
Yeah, yeah, sorry, Danny G. Your Dodgers are so great. My Yankees and Rich's Mets were battling on who could suck the most the past six games.
Danny G
But I will say though, when I, when I hear that I love la, you tell me that doesn't hit the right way.
Cavino
No, you mean the team that beat the Yankees last year? Screw them. So I prefer old Blue Eyes Rich. That's how it is. All right, but we're Covino and Rich. And speaking of baseball, look at the time. Old school in 50 hits. There's a search.
Dan Flores
Yeah, what we gonna do right here.
Danny G
Is go back into time, throwing it.
Dan Beyer
Back for a Thursday, old school, when.
Cavino
50 hits at 50 after C and.
Danny G
R. Give you the time capsule topic and we reminisce together.
Dan Beyer
Yeah.
Cavino
So word on the streets is today is an anniversary, a special day on this day in 1846. I think Mike, who runs this place, he was probably around around that time.
Dan Beyer
Who?
Cavino
I think he was there when it happened. Mike.
Danny G
He was there.
Cavino
I. I heard he was there on this day when baseball was invented in what city was invented on this day?
Danny G
Hoboken, New Jersey.
Cavino
Hoboken in New Jersey, where Covino and Rich met and began this journey as a show together.
Danny G
Danny. Right off of Washington street in Hoboken, where all the bars are, by the way. Hoboken, New Jersey, the home of old blue eyes and more bars per capita. Hoboken is a really cool town right across the Hudson river from New York City. And there it is, there's a, there's a plaque and it says baseball started here.
Cavino
I was gonna say, I've seen the plaque. Danny G. It's a historical monument.
Dan Beyer
Oh, yeah. I remember the Ken Burns documentary famously talking about it.
Cavino
The Ken Burns documentary classic. So we ask you Fox Sports Radio Nation throwback Thursday, old school and 50 hits. This is when we get everybody involved. The most inclusive show on radio 87799 on Fox at COVINoenrich at Fox Sports Radio on this anniversary, on this day, 1846, baseball was invented.
Dan Beyer
Baseball as we know it.
Cavino
Baseball as we know it. Right. What are the most important moments in baseball to you?
Danny G
All right, I have that and I have a second part of the question I want to add. I want to go your favorite baseball memory that you think was just so iconic, that meant so much to you.
Cavino
Like baseball wouldn't the same without it.
Danny G
And also your favorite weird baseball saying or lingo because I'll give you one. Okay.
Cavino
Give you one.
Danny G
All right. I'm going to give you two.
Cavino
All right.
Danny G
My favorite moment, clearly as a Mets fan, gets by Buckner. Rounding third is night. And the Mets win the ball game 686. I was in kindergarten, I was my son's age. And I remember thinking, like, is this the beginning? A lot of great things. And now the Mets haven't won since. But 86, Game 6 gets by Buckner's my moment. My favorite sayings in baseball, little nubber. Never understood that. Little nubber. And I love how it's okay that we just call guys studs. For some reason you're allowed to call other grown men studs.
Cavino
Bryce Harper's a stud.
Danny G
So let's hear from you guys.
Cavino
He doesn't have a little number. That's probably why. Again, greatest moments that are important to you, we chop it up next right here on Cavino Enrich Fox Sports Radio.
Danny G
If you want to hear the dirty things I think people do at the Stanley cup, listen to the bonus pod where I could be uncensored.
Cavino
If you want to hear why there's something wrong with Rich, perhaps. Yeah, take a listen for sure. Something wrong with this guy. So I'm Cavino, that is Rich and we do this every Thursday old school when 50 hits according to Iowa Sam's math. 179 years ago, Rich, baseball was invented today, 1846 on this day. So it got us thinking about the most important moments to you in baseball history. And there's historical moments like I'll give you an example that might not be one for me. Look, it's been around 180 years almost. But let's say in Seattle, Dan Beyer could correct me. Well, he's not a, he's a Seattle Seahawks fan, not a Mariners fan. But in Seattle, Rich, they often say if they didn't win in 95 they wouldn't have Safeco Field, right?
Danny G
Yeah. They say if Ken Griffey Jr. Didn't show up in the playoffs they wouldn't have kept that team in Seattle. Maybe getting Ken Griffith, Ken Griffey Jr. Saved baseball in Seattle.
Cavino
Yeah, maybe just getting him, period. Was that significant moment for your squad, right? Perhaps it was Jay Buhner, I don't know. It depends who you ask. But if they didn't win in 95 at the Yankees expense, baseball might not exist there anymore. So that's a historical moment in Seattle history and I'll give an obvious one. I got to get it out of the way. Jackie Robinson breaking the color barrier has to be one of the most important things to ever happen in baseball. Not only for baseball, just for, you know, the world that we live in today. So 87799 on Fox. It doesn't have to be of historical significance. It could be something like Rich said, the mets winning in 86.
Dan Beyer
Maybe your first baseball game.
Cavino
Yeah, yeah, whatever. Whatever it means to you.
Danny G
I remember my first baseball game. My mother likes to remind me that I should never be hard on my kids if they like want to leave a game because you know, I'm a, I'm a die hard baseball fan and my mom would always tell me that at the games when everyone else is cheering, let's go Mets. I was cheering, let's go Home, you're a little kid, you know, you don't want to, you know, be sitting there in the heat. But you know what? I watched a documentary recently, so I got to shout out my pal Al. You know, Albert Camino, my buddy Al. Al Spalding.
Cavino
Oh, I think this is a big.
Danny G
Moment in sports history that goes under the radar. Obviously ended up making balls for a variety of sports. The NBA. But it was back in the late 1800s that Spalding was the guy that got every little baseball league in town to use the same baseball. I don't know if people know this. Before that, it was almost like houseball. You know, when you played wiffle ball as a kid, where it was like neighborhood rules. It was neighborhood rules in real baseball. Like, some balls were tighter, some balls were bigger, smaller. Spalding was the guy that made.
Cavino
Yeah, but wasn't Spalding also the guy that made the glove, like, an acceptable thing? Because he was so good? Anyone that wore a glove was made fun of. Like, you big wimp, you wear a glove. What a weenie. You know, we play barehanded. But because he was so good and people respected him so much, it made it okay. Isn't that the back? Something like that.
Danny G
That was the original baseball. They started as gloves, and then the fingers on the gloves just started getting bigger and bigger like Mickey Mouse. And then who decided to tie all the fingers of the gloves together? See, like, I'm bringing the fun facts today. You might have heard of them, the Rawlings brothers. So, I mean, think of all the gloves you had as a kid. It was the Rawlings brothers that said, let's make a pocket to the glove and connect the fingers. And you could go nerdy old school like that, or simply just say, hey, Freddie Freeman. Last year was my favorite moment.
Cavino
You know, these are all important moments in baseball history, but everybody has the ones that stand out to them. Dan Beyer, do you have one?
Mike
Well, I was just going to say, just on the heels of what Rich was talking about, like a house, baseball ends up becoming uniformed. But isn't that what makes baseball so great? With these stadiums where every NFL field is the same, every NBA courts by and large is the same with the same dimensions. Paintings and otherwise are different. But isn't that what makes the Green Monster awesome? Or, you know, the right field pole in Fenway Park?
Cavino
The pesky pole?
Mike
Yeah, you know, the warehouse in Baltimore. Like, all those things. Like, that's something that I find great. I also love this chatter. Come on, kid. Come on now. Come on.
Cavino
Come on now.
Mike
Come on, now.
Cavino
I do love baseball chatter. Yes, I love it. Sounds of the game.
Mike
Absolutely. You know, maybe don't get it at a. At a big league ballpark, but you go to any Legion tournament or high school, you always have chatter.
Cavino
Yeah.
Danny G
Hey, Dan Buyer.
Mike
Yes.
Danny G
Good eye. Good eye.
Mike
Good eye, kid. Take your pitch, kid. Come on, now.
Cavino
Come on.
Mike
Come on, now. Come on, kid.
Cavino
How about now?
Danny G
You see him now? Now you've seen him. You're hacking now.
Mike
I turn Southern, by the way. I don't know if you can tell, but when I do my chatter, it's like I just, you know, was born in Alabama.
Dan Beyer
I was gonna say Rich. The other sounds of the game when we were little kids at the stadiums, the announcers on transistor radios, you don't hear that anymore.
Danny G
No doubt, man.
Dan Beyer
And by the way, especially Vin Scully.
Danny G
Here in LA db, Speaking of the old school chatter, Cavino and I always joke about how, you know, when I know they still sell them, maybe like the old timers buy them, but the guy that sells things at stadiums still talk like they're from the 1920s. Get your program here. Program. Peanuts, popcorn.
Cavino
So old school. That's the cool part about baseball. Yeah. Because it goes so far back. There's so much history. So again, the history moments to you.
Mike
I don't dip, but if I was playing first base, I'd have my tongue in my bottom lip, you know? Right. Doing that chatter. Right.
Cavino
The best. All right, so we get you involved at 87799 on Fox. There's so much history when it comes to baseball. And aside from Rob Parker's love of baseball, here on Fox Sports Radio, we're one of the only shows that really love talking about baseball, because this popping right now, we grew up in bas. Still love baseball.
Danny G
I got one. Let's say coming up in the lineup was a Cavino Buyer, Danny G. That sounds like hits.
Cavino
That sounds like hits.
Danny G
Sounds like Ron.
Mike
Sounds like some runs. Yep.
Danny G
I love baseball chatter, too. That's a good point. Damn. By if baseball chatter is the best.
Cavino
Sports chatter, do you remember the first time you heard ducks in a pond? You're like, oh, oh, okay. Ducks in a pond. I get it. Okay. Oh, we want a pitcher, not a belly itcher. Oh, we want a catcher, not a belly scratcher. Oh, we want a catcher, not a belly scratcher. Yeah. By the way, fun, creative ones nowadays, too.
Danny G
Pitcher. Pitcher gets up. You know, when. When pitchers would hit in little League and stuff like, got runners on base, Yo. Help yourself. Help yourself.
Cavino
Oh, so good. I mentioned Jackie Robinson, so I'll get another one out of the way. As a. As a half fato local myself, got to give props to the great Roberto Clemente. Again, being the first Hispanic player of Puerto Rican descent to play professional baseball in 1955. These are all major moments that opened up the game to where it is today. Right? So again, I have to point that out, but it doesn't have to be that historical because me personally, I remember the 1996 World Series, right? The Yankees were down, dude, down. The Braves were dominant. And then Jim Laritz hits his magical home run, turns the whole Series around, and the Yankees win that Series. And that sort of started that dynasty for the New York Yankees. If you guys remember, that was like a clear memory, because before that was a little kid. When they won in 96, when that turnaround happened with Jim Laywood's his home run, the Yankees never looked back. They win the World Series, yet he stumble in 97. But then they go on that major run, dude. And looking back, I think we're far enough removed to look back and say what they did was insane. Yeah, that dynasty the Yankees had, winning three in a row, that's unheard of. Baseball's the hardest sport to repeat, and they did three in a row.
Danny G
So Laritz, he's in trouble, right? He's.
Cavino
Yeah, I'm not saying he's the best dude. I'm saying he turned that whole Series around.
Danny G
So you guys hear that Kavino said Jim Laritz is his hero.
Cavino
That's not what I said. I'm saying that whole turnaround when they were looking like they didn't have a chance against the Atlanta Braves. So moments, important moments to you that made baseball is what it is. Danny G, what's yours?
Dan Beyer
How about Hank Aaron's historic 715th home run? Now, we weren't around, but we famously see the clip over and over of those two fans running out to pat him on his back. They're in their 70s duds.
Cavino
You know what's so cool about that is he was getting so much flack about breaking the Babe's record, right? Like no one wanted him to be the guy. And racial barriers and things like that, ridiculous. And then you see these two goofy white dudes, the leather jacket. They're like 70 big collared 70s dudes. That is one of the most classic clips, for sure. I love that. I haven't seen it in a minute, but I love that clip. So the ones that stand out to you. Let's go to the phones get everybody involved. Where do you want to start?
Dan Beyer
Let's start with Baker in Illinois.
Cavino
Baker in Illinois. You're on the Covino and Rich show, the anniversary of baseball.
Travis
Hey, man, what's up? So it's kind of not a moment, but so I'll try and make it quick. I grew up listening to Braves games on my radio, and so I was a fan. And then the Yankees knocked him out of the World Series. So I decided I hate the Yankees and then in. And I jumped on the bag bandwagon right at the right time in O3. And then the Yankees knocked the Red Sox out, But then in O4, they won. And that was.
Cavino
Dude, that was cool. Yeah. For any Red Sox fan or Yankee haters, 04 was insane because it goes back to the curse of the Babe, when they dished him after 1918. Right. So. And that's another question itself. Would baseball be the same? Rich, baseball would still exist, but would it be the same if Babe Ruth wasn't traded to the Yankees?
Danny G
I mean, would the NBA be what it was if it wasn't for the Magic Johnson, Larry Bird feud and Michael Jordan coming in? You could say that about most. I think Babe, you know, was. Was super important back then. He was larger than life. He was a circus act. People would go see him to just hit the ball. I could argue he was now.
Cavino
Yeah, he. One could argue, though, he might be the most important figure in baseball to. To make it what it is today.
Danny G
No doubt.
Cavino
So thank you, man. Yeah. 2004. Major impact for anybody in the New England area, too. How about all those old people that never saw this other team win? And you're just happy for grandpa that he got to see something. Scott, Missouri. Important moments in baseball November, November 2.
Travis
2016 Cubs win the World Series. Unbelievable. I mean, growing up a Cubs fan in Chicago, I moved to Springfield, Missouri, right in the middle of Cardinal country. I've got to take a crap for years, and finally the Cubs get it. They win the World Series.
Danny G
I, you know, I always wonder if the Cubs fan had a hangover after that. Meaning, like, not from drinking. Like, like, now what? Because I. There. There's that there was such a lovable charm of that about the Cubs. You finally win one, and then I wonder, like, what does that feel like?
Cavino
Then there's so many great stories similar to the 04 Red Sox. You waited your whole life to see that. The story of David Ross was big, too. Remember, he got carried off the field. His majestic home run. That was huge for Chicago. And we all got to witness that. Absolutely. In our lifetime. One of the greatest moments for sure. Thank you, man. Rob, in Pennsylvania, you're on the Covino and Rich show.
Travis
Hey, guys. I love you and love your show.
Cavino
Thanks, man.
Danny G
Thanks.
Travis
The guy just stole my thunder. It was the Cubs winning the World Series 108 years. And something cool was a baseball has 108 threads. So he couldn't have matched up anything better.
Cavino
You know, that's cool. And you know, what you think too about like Steve Bartman and all the stupid things that happen and the poor.
Danny G
Cubs and, you know, it's, it's funny. Dan Byer brought up a great point. And Kavino, I know you found the chatter. Some young, some young kid on social media that's learning baseball and he's like, yo, when was someone going to tell me all the stadiums were different? And to me there, there's such a charm about. That's why while people do want to go see different basketball games and football games, why do you think everyone wants to go see every Major League baseball stadium? Because they're all different. You go to Milwaukee, they got the slide in left field. You go see the, an Astros game and they got the train in left field. Or remember they used to have that little center field little thing. You go to Yankee Stadium. It's Yankee Stadium. Every, every. You go to Wrigley Field, you see the, the ivy on the wall. It's. There's something so special about each stadium. The dimensions, the grass, everything. And by the way, we've been to MLB experiences where I know Dan Beyer enjoys this conversation. Dan, they showed all the different types of grass at all the stadiums. Like it is precision, like the different types of strains of grass that all the different stadiums use.
Mike
That's another thing. It's why I think golf appeals to me so much, aside from just the sheer frustration of it. But it's such a gorgeous setting in Major League Baseball with that lush green field. If you have certain stuff mowed. Absolutely.
Cavino
In San Francisco. This is kind of funny. I don't know if anybody remembers this. The San Francisco Giants before, well, they changed it. They used to have the old Navy, like splash landing area, right? But do you guys know the story of Rusty, the 14 foot mechanical mascot that would come out if they hit a home run into the splash landing? You got to look this up. Because it was such a failure, they got rid of it. But it was this 14 foot mechanical baseball dude that would come gliding out tipping his hat out to the, to the audience, and everyone hated it so much that they eventually got rid of it. But the railway that he would. The track that he would move on is still there underneath that splash landing at. It's Oracle, right? At Oracle, Pac Bell park, whatever the heck it is. But look up the legend of Rusty, and it might trigger some memories, because that story's wild. Rusty again. It goes with the signature look that every stadium has, which is why we like these ballparks. You're right. I love that originality that every city brings to the game.
Danny G
Oh, my God, this is so weird.
Cavino
Oh, it's. Honestly, I think it's kind of cool. But it got such backlash, and people were scared of it and kids hated it, and everyone's like, this sucks. They got rid of Rusty. I think it lasted like one season.
Danny G
Yo, let me ask you. Can you think of. I have one that's on my mind. Can you think of something else that was so terrible they got rid of it in the stadium. Yeah.
Cavino
The flagpole in Houston.
Danny G
No, no. Yeah, that.
Cavino
That was the weakest.
Danny G
Do you remember that? Like. Like, really gross statue in Florida.
Cavino
Oh, in Miami with the flamingos.
Danny G
They had some artistic something going on. Left field, left center field.
Cavino
Yeah. But, you know, the signature look is, I think, a part of the game that we all cherish, and I think that's part of why we love it. Mike, who runs this place, who's also getting ready for our big Vegas adventure. He's bringing a bunch of prizes down there for us. He says Kirk Gibson's home run was the historical moment for him. He said, you know, he always admired the Lou Gehrig speech, too, and what that meant for baseball. But Gibson's home run was just a classic moment for him. Back to your phone calls. On the anniversary of baseball invented on this day, 1846, what were some of the most important historical moments in the game? Or maybe just you personally, Tom, in Florida, you're on the show.
Travis
Hey, guys. You know, I'm a Braves fan since the early 70s. I was 8 years old when Hank hit the home run, but that's not it. I've seen him win the World Series in 95 and 2021, but that's not it. The powder blue Braves, the disgusting Braves of the late 70s and 80s, that couldn't win anything. And then Sid Bream in 1991 beats the throw from the greatest player in game at a time, Barry Bonds. Braves win. Braves win. Braves win. From worst to first. That, to me, was the moment that I'll always cherish.
Cavino
I love that. And I love the excitement in your voice. I love the story. And then my mind starts to trail off because baseball means a lot to all of us. Right? We all grew up loving it. And it gets me thinking, this would be a controversial one, Rich. But you don't think the steroid era, for as bad as it was for baseball, brought so much excitement for baseball. Like Sosa and McGuire gut punched each other.
Dan Beyer
That summer was unforgettable.
Danny G
Dude.
Cavino
Am I right, though?
Dan Beyer
Any network, channel they would break into, they would break out of whatever they were covering at the time, whether it was the news or whatever was going on, and they would show the at bat for McGuire or.
Cavino
So that's why it's so hypocritical to hold it against these players because everybody was pumped about it. And if you were a little kid, like, I wasn't a little kid, but if you, I was in college in the mid-90s, late-90s, I graduated college in 90. So if you're a little kid and you're watching Sosa and McGuire and guys like Raphael Palmero just slugging away, hitting bombs all the time, you don't think that was important in their life and reeled them into the game? Like, yeah, I get it. Detrimental to stats and to the game and the reputation. But if that's what pulled you in and you've been a lifelong fan since, was it really that bad? I don't know. Something to think about.
Dan Beyer
Yep.
Danny G
All right. I, I, I thought of a couple other fun ones. Nolan Ryan, Robin Ventura.
Cavino
Historical moment for sure.
Danny G
Just like one of those, like those are the fun moments you'll never forget.
Cavino
It's like, yeah, it's, it's definitely a moment you'll never forget. I don't know. Remember how important it was?
Danny G
Yeah, I mean, it's, well, I mean, you could also throw like Don Zimmer and Pedro. That fight was legendary and just added to the Yankees Red Sox feud. There's just all these memorable moments. Mike Piazza and Clemens throwing the bat at him. There's so many random little moments.
Cavino
Magical mom Piazza bringing life back to normal after 911 with that bomb he had. That was a majestic moment.
Dan Beyer
I think about some of the manias like Doc Gooden coming to the league and of course, Fernando mania in Southern California kind of healed what had happened with Chavez Ravine and Mexican Americans being moved out of there for the stadium to be built. And a lot of them didn't embrace the team until Fernando. And all of that happened for, you.
Cavino
Know, what Fernando Valenzuela and what he meant to the Latino community embracing baseball. You're right. And Mexicans embracing the Dodgers. Dude, that's insane. The impact that he had in this city with the Dodgers. So important moments, too. Back to the calls.
Danny G
Do you remember Kavino, when you were a kid? You told me you went to a game. Were you on the West Coast? You went to an Angels game and you were there when Reggie Jackson tried to kill the Queen.
Cavino
Yeah, I'll never forget it. It was wild. Dude.
Danny G
Thank God for Lieutenant Fred Drebin. Right?
Cavino
It was a historical moment.
Danny G
Thanks, Frank.
Cavino
Jamie in Georgia, you're on the Covino and Rich Show. Historical or baseball Thunder.
Travis
Just a second ago from Florida, but it was Sid Brim Slide. But it was 1992.
Danny G
Oh, yeah.
Travis
Seven of the NLCs.
Cavino
Oh, really? Okay.
Dan Beyer
Jamie cleaning up his work.
Cavino
You know, Braves fans calling. I love going with these phone calls because then my mind wanders and I start thinking of other stuff. Appreciate you thinking about Sid.
Danny G
You would think about Sid Bream's mustache.
Cavino
No, I'm thinking about, like, there's other moments that maybe not that historical, but we're seeing Buster Posey, you know, on the big stage, press conferences, talking about Raphael Devers and everything. Him getting mowed over changed the game, period, as we know it. You know what I mean? So it's like, maybe not that historical, being that we've been watching baseball 180 years, but what happened to him changed the game as we know it.
Danny G
Yeah, I always think about that with your. Your Yankee pitcher, Jabba Chamberlain. I remember him being the first pitcher that had a pitch count because he was coming off an injury.
Cavino
The job.
Danny G
And I felt like, yeah, the job of rules. And ever since that, I feel like that opened the floodgates to every pitching coach putting counts on their pitch.
Cavino
Jabba rules. Jabba Chamberlain, significant. Buster Posey, you know, barreling down catchers. That changed everything. Historical moment. These are things that we were able to witness in our lifetime which make them actually a little cooler. Tom and Iowa, you're on the Covino and Rich Show.
Travis
Hey, yeah, this is Tom. Hey. I tell you what, when I was a teenager, we got sent to St. Louis to watch a game. And I'm a Kevin fan, so I loved it. I got to see Dave Kingman hit a grand slam off the Cardinals.
Cavino
That is pretty Dave Kingman.
Travis
And he almost hit it out of the stadium west. I said, said it was 3 and 2. First standing bases load. I said, they're not throwing a fastball. And they did. But of course, my favorite time was when the Cubs won the World Series. But the seeing Kingman had that was before the steroid. Or he was, he was King Kong they called him. You know.
Danny G
Yo, that guy hit like. Like I only saw highlights. I was a little too young for Kingman, but he was a met when I was like a baby. Kingman was known to hit like moonshots. Like I don't know if anyone else is synonymous as far as home run hitters that would just hit hit like rocket high bombs.
Rich
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Lex Ferreiro
Welcome to the you versus you podcast. I'm Lex Ferreiro and every week we sit down with some of the biggest names in entertainment to talk about the real stuff, the struggles, the doubts and the breakthroughs that make them who they are. We go deep, exploring childhood trauma, family, overcoming loss, and the moments that shape their journey. These honest conversations are meant to take the cape off our heroes with the hope that their humanity inspires you to become a better you and therefore set you free to live the life of your dreams. Here's a sneak peek.
Dan Flores
I'm trained to go compete.
Lex Ferreiro
I'm trained to be like harder.
Dan Flores
But sometimes that mentality stops you from stopping and smelling the flowers in your own garden.
Lex Ferreiro
Is it wrong to want more?
Dan Flores
We migrated. Our family migrated here. I'm like second generation. Una trauma de un pais extranjero Yegas unidos ingles.
Lex Ferreiro
Listen to youo vs yous as part of Michael Tuda Podcast Network available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Michael Kassin
The American west with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network. Hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores and brought to you by Velvet Buck, this podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and best selling author and Meat Eater founder Stephen Rinella.
Danny G
I'll correct my kids now and then.
Cavino
Where they'll say when cave people were here.
Danny G
And I'll say it seems.
Cavino
It seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves.
Michael Kassin
So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th where we'll delve into stories of the west and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today.
Cavino
Listen to the American west with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts.
Danny G
Or wherever you get your podcasts.
Sam
I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no.
Danny G
Across the country, cops called this Taser the Revolution.
Sam
But not everyone was convinced it was that simple.
Michael Kassin
Cops believed everything that Taser told them.
Sam
From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a multi billion dollar company dedicated itself to one visionary mission. This is Absolute Season one, Taser Incorporated.
Dan Beyer
I get right back there and it's bad.
Cavino
It's really, really, really bad.
Sam
Listen to new episodes of Absolute Season 1 Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Binge episode episodes 1, 2 and 3 on May 21 and episodes 4, 5 and 6 on June 4 ad free at Lava for Good. Plus on Apple Podcasts.
Dan Flores
This Pride Month, we are not just celebrating, we're fighting back. I'm George M. Johnson and my book All Boys Aren't Blue was just named the most banned book in America. If the culture wars have taught me anything, it's that Pride is protest. And on my podcast, Fighting Words, we talk to people who use their voices to resist, disrupt and make our community stronger.
Cavino
This year we are showing up and showing out. You need people being like, no, you're not going to tell us what to do.
Dan Flores
This regime is coming down on us and I don't want to just survive. I Want to thrive. You'll hear from. From trailblazers like Bob the Drag Queen to freedom Angelica Ross.
Rich
We ready to fight.
Cavino
I'm ready to fight.
Dan Flores
And Gabrielle Union.
Cavino
Hi, George.
Dan Flores
And storytellers with wisdom to spare. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Cavino
On this day. Right?
Danny G
Yeah.
Cavino
The fact that they came up with and they always say it in a Ken Burns documentary or when people are talking about the magic of baseball, just how perfect 60ft 6 inches is. Right.
Danny G
Like that's what makes it so great.
Cavino
You're 90ft from the distance, the distances.
Danny G
Like if it's a routine ground ball, you'll get him out. He'll never beat out a routine ground ball. However, if you bobble the ball a little bit.
Cavino
Safe. Right. Like all these things were so important to the game as we know it now. Perfection. And you mentioned Shohei Ohtani. The impact that we're going to look back on is insane. It's immense. When you think about how global he's made the game feel like it's always been there. We talked about Clemente's and what he's meant to Latino players and Hispanic players all over the globe. But the international feel that baseball is really bringing with Shohei and maybe even the decision rich of World Baseball Classic, one day we might look back and be like, that was a historical moment because look how big the game is now. Internationally, of course.
Danny G
And by the way, as we talk about baseball and our favorite moments and you know, doing a little reminiscing the other day, I think it was yesterday was national mascot day. And I got to say, baseball probably has the best mascots. Right? Philly fanatic. I hate to say it because I love to hate on Philly, but the fanatic, Mr. Met, Mr. Red. By the way, doesn't he look like Mr. Met's creepy uncle?
Cavino
Yeah, I think he is. He's got the mustache. Yeah.
Danny G
I think Colorado, the dinosaur digger, they got all these cool mascots throughout the league. So. So baseball's bringing it as it did 179 years ago. And again, the evolution, like you said Covino guys were, they were like you, you got to be tough. No helmets, no gloves, nothing. And now like 5 year old kids have sliding gloves.
Cavino
Exactly. So we'll wrap it up with your phone calls. The most important, important moments in baseball. Tony in Virginia, you're on.
Travis
I, I think President Bush throwing out that first pitch at Yankee Stadium in World series right after 9 11. I put that galvanized.
Cavino
Yeah. Dude, that was a magical moment. It was definitely the best and most impactful. And then I'd put the Queen, when she threw the screwball, by the way, the Queen of England, right underneath it. But, yeah, that was an awesome moment.
Danny G
He brings up a great point that made the. I know it sounds ridiculous because it's just a pitch, but it made America feel strong. And imagine if George W. Bush would have threw like, a Baba Bowie first pitch in that moment.
Cavino
No, and I love the fact that. No, but remember, the story goes. Cheater tells him, like, don't bounce it. Yeah, Like, I love that story. And that was told by George Bush. Like, that really happened. It's a great call. It's a great story. It's a great moment, for sure. Let's talk to Pierce in Albany. Pierce, you're on the show.
Travis
Well, the president throwing out the 911 one kind of trumps me there. But I gotta say, as a Mets.
Dan Beyer
Fan, and you already talked, Mike Piazza.
Travis
Also saving America post 9 11.
Cavino
Yeah.
Travis
But the Robin Ventura grand slam single.
Danny G
That was a cool moment. Cool moment.
Cavino
That was a cool moment. Absolutely. And, you know, like, if you're a little kid watching, too, in that moment, that could have changed your life. That's the other thing about it. Like, we've seen a lot of great moments at this stage, but for kids, too, they stand out. McKinney in Ohio. What's up, Danny?
Dan Beyer
Oh, I was just going to say I was thinking of some of the records that we've seen broken, and I was in the bay area in 1991. How about Ricky Henderson holding the bag.
Cavino
Over his head that we just saw 1:50.50. It's never been done.
Danny G
It just dawned on me recently. I forgot. I honestly, I forgot that we lost Ricky. Like, it's. It's crazy to think he's gone crazy.
Cavino
McKinney in Ohio. Oh, D.B. what's up, buddy?
Mike
Just along those same lines. Remember when that guy from Fresno called in and started. Started the Reggie Jackson chant at the A's game? Do you remember that?
Cavino
That was. Right.
Mike
That guy that called in from Fresno, you know? Yes. What a great moment.
Cavino
Is that Danny G's brother or.
Travis
I don't know.
Mike
I don't think Danny G. No, my brother.
Dan Beyer
My brother started the chant. Fresno claimed it.
Mike
I thought it was Ken and Fresno.
Cavino
That's right. He started. That's right, man. His story. Historical moment. Thank you. Dan McKinney in Ohio. You're on the Covino and Rich show, man.
Travis
You know what? I love you guys. Show, man. I didn't think I would like it at first, but, man, I don't. I don't miss you.
Cavino
Thank you. Appreciate it.
Travis
Yeah. Now I'm watching the two new bald eagles fish in the. In the great Miami river while I'm walking with my dog, listening, you guys. My favorite. My favorite baseball moment has to do with Crosley Field and their sloped outfield. I love that, the Pete Rose thing with him and his 1976 World Series parade. I know you guys, east coast, west coast, but in the Midwest, baby, that's where it's at.
Cavino
Hey, dude, a lot of people haven't experienced the World Series parade, but once you do, and if you do at the right time in your life, that's magical, man, and you'll never forget it. My first one was that I was able to go to as an adult, quote, unquote. Adult was in 96, and I'll never forget it.
Danny G
A lot of. A lot of the 86 Mets never experienced a parade. Cocaine.
Cavino
Exactly. Exactly. Hey, I want to thank you all for your phone calls. Hit us up at Covino and Rich. We got to get to Dan Beyer with an update.
Mike
I do want to say baseball as well. And it feels like it was in our era, but it's been forever where cheating was not only allowed, but it was captured of whether it be corked bats, whether it be, you know, mini rubber balls in baseball bats, whether it be fingernail files, like all of that. Like, it's. You don't see anybody. Nobody gets busted in the NBA for cheating, Right?
Cavino
Yeah.
Danny G
I always picture it was, which negro brother had the file in his back pocket? He threw it out. Remember that?
Mike
Yeah, yeah. Gosh, it was one of them and I forgotten. I don't want to accuse the other of doing it.
Cavino
I know. I think it was Phil, but again, it could be Joe. Yeah.
Danny G
And then.
Mike
Oh, this. Oh, oh, this. My fingernail file. Oh, this whole thing.
Dan Beyer
Oh, yeah.
Mike
Oh, yeah. There is some history made today in Major League baseball in Texas.
Cavino
The 2. 2 pitch.
Danny G
Caglion hits it high in the air, deep right center field. Adoles. Garcia's at the wall. It's gone.
Cavino
Watch it fly.
Danny G
Jack Caglio Leone. His first big league home run.
Mike
Maybe you get moments like that in the NFL, like first touchdown pass or first touchdown catch, but you don't get that necessarily in the NBA.
Cavino
That dude's a stud.
Mike
Yes. Yes. He had another one later. Royals sweep the Rangers today by a score of 4 to 1 on the Royals radio network. And I just want to congratulate you guys, on your 20 years, I will not be in Vegas with you, but I will be here tomorrow. I'll be on the show. But I know it's going to be crazy. But congratulations on your two decades of radio partnership. Partnership and success.
Cavino
You believe that that's 120 years in radio years.
Mike
I have not had one person ask me, are you going to Vegas? And I don't know if it's, they don't want me to go or they just knew that it probably was never going to happen. But not one person questioned me and saying, are you gonna be making it? And I just so you know, let.
Cavino
Me give you an honest response there too. And I do this a lot. I don't like putting pressure on people. I just don't, you know. So for me personally, it's like, hey, everybody's invited. I don't like to pressure people.
Danny G
My assumption was that you, you have a little son and when we're away, you're you, you're the number one guy they have always filling in and doing all the shows around Fox Sports. And one of our co workers has a wedding on Saturday. So I just thought it's a busy week.
Mike
Leave it to me to make it about me. Right. No, but congrats.
Cavino
Thank you. Thank you, Dan. Yeah, we couldn't do this without you, so we appreciate it. Thank you, Dan Byer. Thank you, FOX Sports Radio Nation. The rest of your feedback at Covino and Rich, Start thinking about ring. Do they matter or do they not? There's two conflicting stories from two teammates. Do rings matter or not?
Danny G
That when you ask, do rings matter or not? Historically, people say that's how you remembered your championships, your rings. And just the other day, LeBron, we talked about, he's like, yo, rings don't matter. And we goofed on him a little bit. But a day later, Lakers get sold. And the first thing Luca says, his teammate, the first thing he says is, all right, sweet, let's, this is great. Now let's go win some rings.
Cavino
He says he's super pumped about the Lakers sale and let's go win some rings now. So it's like his own teammate. You got conflicting views on the importance of rings on, on the team. It's so weird to see this, this conflict. And on the same day, Rich. Yeah, Danny G. Sam Kelsey is quoted today that he's only interested in super bowl rings. Like his whole purpose in coming back is winning a ring. He wants number four because that solidifies your legacy in a, in a game of wins and losses and championships.
Dan Beyer
This feels like two different thoughts, though, because LeBron was pointing out that there's some NBA players that he really respects and thinks are greats and legends, despite the fact they never won a ring. I don't think he's going to be saying, I don't care what happens this season. Hopefully he's still going to be saying the same thing. Luca just said, let's go win one.
Cavino
I'm not ever going to deny the heart of a LeBron James. Who am I, Some Jabroni in a studio talking about him? I get it. I'm a fan. But it doesn't make sense. It just doesn't. It just caters to his current narrative because he's not going to have as many rings as Jordan, most likely, so he's trying to downplay the importance. That's not. That's honestly what I take out of it. Yeah, you could still be a really great player without one, but you're not held in that same company. And Charles Barkley is always that example. Or Dan Marino. It's always the same. People like really great players. But greatness is also measured in how many championships you won. So I think it always matters. So on the very next day, that's what's ironic about it, where Luca gets the news that the team was sold and it's valued at $10 billion or whatever. I'm pumped. Let's go win some rings. That just sounds so odd. So do they matter or not? They absolutely matter. Is there any debate? Sure, you could be great, but you're even greater with a ring.
Dan Beyer
I mean, there's no question that they matter, but in what context? You have to point out what LeBron was saying. Now, I get you. And some other people are going to say, well, this is just because of the Michael Jordan factor, but if you really listen to what he was saying, I think you kind of get the drift. You know what I mean?
Cavino
I get it. I get what you're saying, too. So it's just ironic that the very next day, Lucas exact opposite.
Dan Beyer
And we said on the show yesterday, with the new Guggenheim and group coming in, that they're not really going to be in place around LeBron. He's probably going to be out of there. They're going to be building around Luca.
Cavino
And speaking of watches and rings, I always had this theory that if you were ever going to buy an engagement ring, your fiance should buy you a sweet watch. What do you think about that? Don't you think there should. You should get something in return. That's always been my theory. I don't know. I'm fighting for the guy in this. I want a nice watch.
Dan Beyer
Yeah, the men's rings always stink, so.
Cavino
Yeah, exactly, right? So anyway guys, thank you so much for hanging out with us. Over promised on Fox Sports Radio's YouTube page. We do it next. Arriva Durchi, baby. See you in the promised land. See you in Vegas.
Rich
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Dan Flores
I also want to address the Tonys. On a recent episode of Checking in with Michelle Williams, I open up about feeling snubbed by the Tony Awards. Do I? I was never mad. I was disappointed because I had high hopes to hear this and more on disappointment and protecting your peace. Listen to Checking in with Michelle Williams from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Michael Kassin
Why is a soap opera western like Yellowstone so wildly successful? The American west with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th where we'll delve into stories of the west and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today.
Danny G
Listen to the American west with Dan.
Cavino
Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts.
Danny G
Or wherever you get your podcasts.
Sam
I know a lot of cops. They get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. This is Absolute Season 1 Taser Incorporated.
Cavino
I get right back there and it's bad.
Sam
Listen to Absolute Season 1 Taser incorporated on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Mike
I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Angeli.
Cavino
Sud, CE of Tubi.
Mike
We dive into the competitive world of streaming.
Cavino
What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There's so many stories out there and if you can find a way to.
Rich
Curate and help the right person discover the right content.
Cavino
The term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.
Mike
Listen to Good company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Dan Beyer
Foreign.
Cavino
This is an I Heart podcast.
Podcast Summary: Covino & Rich - Haliburton Debate, Baseball Time Machine
Podcast Information:
In this engaging episode of The Dan Patrick Show, hosts Covino and Rich dive deep into two significant discussions: the ethical and strategic considerations surrounding Tyrese Haliburton's potential participation in the NBA Finals game six despite an injury, and a nostalgic journey through some of baseball's most memorable moments in their "Baseball Time Machine" segment. The conversation is enriched with insights from guests Danny G and Dan Beyer, along with audience interaction through phone calls.
Overview: The primary discussion centers on Tyrese Haliburton's injury status during a crucial NBA Finals game. The debate explores whether Haliburton should play at less than 100% or sit it out to protect his long-term health and the team's prospects in a potential game seven.
Key Points:
Player's Commitment vs. Team Strategy:
Ethics of Playing While Injured:
Impact on Team Dynamics:
Long-Term Consequences:
Team's Immediate Needs vs. Player’s Career:
Notable Quotes:
Conclusion of Debate: The hosts and guests reach a consensus that while the immediate emotional and tactical benefits of Haliburton playing are substantial, the long-term ramifications could be detrimental. They stress the importance of weighing short-term gains against future career prospects and overall team health.
Overview: Transitioning from basketball to baseball, Covino and Rich invite listeners to reminisce about their favorite baseball memories and historical moments that have shaped the game. This segment, aptly named "Baseball Time Machine," highlights personal anecdotes and significant events that resonate with baseball fans.
Key Points:
Personal Favorite Moments:
Historic Milestones:
Influential Players and Moments:
Stadium Traditions and Unique Features:
Cultural and Generational Perspectives:
Notable Quotes:
Conclusion of Segment: "Baseball Time Machine" serves as a heartfelt tribute to the sport, encapsulating both personal memories and landmark events that have collectively enriched the game. The hosts encourage listeners to reflect on their own favorite moments, fostering a sense of community and shared history among baseball enthusiasts.
Throughout the episode, Covino and Rich adeptly balance intense sports debates with nostalgic reflections, providing a comprehensive and entertaining listen for fans. By addressing both the immediate strategic decisions in basketball and the timeless allure of baseball, the hosts create a dynamic and relatable narrative that resonates with a diverse audience.
Listener Engagement: The episode features interactive segments where listeners call in to share their own sports stories and opinions, further enhancing the show's engaging and inclusive atmosphere.
Closing Remarks: As the episode concludes, the hosts tease upcoming segments and events, maintaining a connection with the audience and building anticipation for future discussions.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps:
This episode of The Dan Patrick Show effectively captures the passion and complexity of sports, offering listeners both spirited debates and heartfelt nostalgia. Whether you're a die-hard basketball fan or a lifelong baseball enthusiast, Covino and Rich provide insightful commentary that keeps you hooked from start to finish.