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Rich Eisen
This is Julian Edelman from Games with Names. Football is back. That Means it's tailgate time. And this season the only meat I'm going to grill is deets and Watson. I'm loving the Black Angus de dogs. They're flavor packed and you can tell they are made with the highest quality ingredients. Sundays just got a whole lot better. Visit dietandwatson.com the right way to learn more about the deets difference. Hey, thanks for listening to the Covino Enrich podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday from 5 to 7 Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for Kavito Enrich@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. Yeah, that's the weakest ass way to start a show ever. Reminding me that I owe Steve Kavino $2,100.
Danny G
Sounded good to me.
Rich Eisen
Son of a bitch. You know where he.
Danny G
I'm borrow a dollar from Covino.
Rich Eisen
You know where he owes me and his money? He's in Mexico right now on vacation. On me, apparently so. Well, I'm rolling solo today. But not solo because I got the best crew. We got the best show in the biz. Danny G, super producer.
Danny G
What's up, Danny G. Happy Monday.
Rich Eisen
I was bringing the good vibes.
Sam Spotty
I had no idea Covina was gone today. I didn't look at the schedule.
Rich Eisen
Apparently Spotty's on the video. And of course he'll be co hosting throughout the show. My man and yours, Dan buyer. What's up, D.B. hello. 2,100 bucks, huh?
Dan Beyer
That hurts pretty heavy.
Rich Eisen
That hurts especially when I'm redoing my pool in the backyard. I can't feel as bad.
Dan Beyer
Yeah, now we don't feel as bad.
Rich Eisen
You're right.
Sam Spotty
Remember when you were like, hey, Covino, you want me to. You want to just cut your loss right here? You just give me like 800.
Rich Eisen
Oh, dude. And then look at how the tide turned, bro. It's like the worst bet I've ever lost in my Life by far. $2,100. That's gross. But, hey, he's in Mexico. You know why Camino's in Mexico? True story. Danny G thought it was a joke. He goes, what did Cavino buy? Like some type of timeshare that he needed to use. And I'm like, yes. During his last vacation, he was the guy that watched that presentation where they try to sell you, you know, want to come back here for half price. But you have to go in this window of time. That's what he did. Yeah.
Danny G
I was kidding. And Rich said, no, that's actually what happened.
Rich Eisen
And I was like, dude, that's in the middle of the NFL season. Who cares? We could, we could hang without Cove. He's valuable, but he's not like Cal Raleigh valuable. He's like Aaron Judge valuable. So we could, we could be. Wow. If he heard this, he'd be upset. Hey, we're going to get to a lot today, a lot of fun on Cavino and Rich. I won't harp on the Mets, but I do want to bring up a statement from Steve Cohen and how he already committed to Mendoza is going to be the manager next year. And that's, that's got fans in New York on the east coast upset. And I want to talk about the idea of blowing it up. When it doesn't go well, there's people that like, you got to blow up this team. And it doesn't just apply to the Mets. It applies to any NFL team, NBA team. When you don't make the postseason. Is the answer always blow it up and start over. Or sometimes is it, you know, maybe just run it back, you get better luck, fix some pieces. But do you really need to blow it up?
Danny G
On our network yesterday afternoon, I heard the host talking about should the Panthers blow things up?
Sam Spotty
Should the Detroit Tigers blow it up because they coughed up a huge lead?
Dan Beyer
Who was talking Panthers after yesterday, that's.
Danny G
What I want to Hartman and Vijay.
Dan Beyer
There wasn't much to say. I told you years ago.
Rich Eisen
I told you so listen, we're going to get to a bunch, but as we do every Monday, let's kick off a Covino on Rich with things that made you go. Hmm, let's go, baby. Things that make you go. Things that make you go. Now, before we even get to all the games, there was a lot of great NFL action. We're going to talk about ties. We're going to talk about have. There's only two undefeated teams, right? Only two undefeated teams left after four weeks of the NFL.
Danny G
Just two.
Rich Eisen
Just two. Showing the parody, the parody in the league. But we got to talk about Bad Bunny because my goodness, the social media reaction. Danny G. I was watching just like you Sunday Night Football and they so casually like Mike Tirico, like, I did not know this was coming to Rico's, like. And coming up next, we're going to find out who the halftime show is. And I'm like, oh, damn. Like Tirico was just holding that in his pocket, huh? And there he is, Bad money sitting on a goalpost with A straw hat. And everyone's like, wait, what? Bad Bunny.
Danny G
He was carrying a golf bag too. It was weird.
Rich Eisen
Bad Bunny, otherwise caddying for Happy Gilmore, otherwise known as Happy Gilmore's caddy, is an international superstar. Let's not be naive. But let's not also make it seem like everyone knows Bad Bunny. It's a very interesting choice by Jay Z, Roger Goodell in the NFL, I think we could say interesting choice. Now, here's my thought. My initial thought was, what about Taylor Swift? Because we had all those little breadcrumbs, those Easter eggs of sourdough and 60 and all this, ooh, Super Bowl 60. And then Metallica. And then you heard rumors last week, like Adele. And then we were all thinking, aw, she's too slow. She's got a great voice and great songs, but not Adele. And then you heard Post Malone. And then over the weekend, there were Internet rumors that Miley's close to signing. The contract I had not heard. Am I wrong by saying no one else heard Bad Bunny's name? Even in the conversation?
Danny G
They kept it under wraps.
Rich Eisen
That was the most, like, under wraps. Anything's been kept because I didn't hear a thing. A peep about Bad Boonie. Now, let me tell you, when Covino and I worked over at espn, we worked very closely with a lot of the people that work for ESPN Deportes. To say that Bad Bunny is a superstar is an understatement. You just must not have many Latino friends or know anyone that speaks Spanish. This guy's an international star. But here's the question. Is it the right act for the Super Bowl? 87799 on Fox. If you want to chime in, that's one of our things that made you go, hmm, Week four. I look at it this way. We often neglect to realize when something's not meant for us, right? Let's say you're a, you know, let's be honest, middle aged white guy who loves football, and you're going to watch no matter what. They got you hooked. You're watching the super bowl and everything involved with the NFL playoffs, you're watching Mondays, Thursday, Sunday, Sunday nights. You're locked in. They got you. They don't need to get you anymore. So it's very clear that last year with Kendrick Lamar and this year with Bed Bunny, they are shooting younger. They're going for different ethnic backgrounds. They're going global. The NFL playing games in Ireland and Spain and Mexico. The game's expanding. The fan base is trying to expand. So Bad Bunny to me is just a clear indication that, yo, you're not the demo they're going after. You're locked in middle aged white guy. And I'm in that group. If they want a middle aged white guy, if they wanted to super serve the 40 to 60 year old dude, hey, Metallica is the answer. But they're going after the younger generation. You're always going after the younger generation. People love to point out with alcohol sales and why they used to always have mascots for alcohol and cigarettes and stuff. They're really subconsciously trying to get the next generation. So what was your first reaction when you saw Bad Bunny? Danny? You got like, you got step kids that are in their 20s. You got a little boy, you got kids. So what was your reaction?
Danny G
Teenagers were hyped over the announcement. And I don't mind him, but the response right away on social media and I sent it to our listener. Eric wrote, having Bad Bunny at the super bowl halftime show is the equivalent of having Morgan Wallen at a big soccer game in Mexic. It's just not fit for at all. For the right sport.
Rich Eisen
It may feel like a miscast. San Francisco Bay Area. There's no real tie to bed money there. Dan Buyer, did you. I mean, it really didn't.
Dan Beyer
I mean, it didn't really resonate with me at all. I'm not too familiar, but to your point, I also didn't think that it was for me. I am fully convinced that this is plan C. I think that they probably wanted other acts to do it. You pointed out a couple of times on the date that they announced Kendrick Lamar, what was in last year? What was interesting about that date was it was opening. It was week one of the NFL season. So it was actually completely overshadowed by the games that we actually cared about. And I think that the NFL wanted to avoid that. However, to do it like in this window during halftime of a game in week four tells me that maybe they had this earlier and things didn't work out with Miley Cyrus or Taylor Swift, that this is then where they ended up pivoting and worked out a deal with Bad Bunny.
Rich Eisen
I think you're probably 100% right and I probably 100% right because you're right. The timing just seemed different than other years. It was a little later. Plus, I think Taylor did hint a lot. And I'm not being the little, you know, I'm not like pop boy who's reading between the lines. Remember on her podcast with Travis, they made all those sourdough jokes and 60% of the time, like 60 sourdough. Those Easter eggs were there for a reason. I heard from people that work in like the pop world of radio that her list of demands was up there. And the NFL has a brand to worry about and Taylor Swift has a brand to worry about and they just couldn't really figure out who owned it. There was probably behind the scenes stuff.
Dan Beyer
I'll give you something that I thought was. Maybe it only landed on me, but I thought it was interesting with the photo of Bad Bun on a sunset because the sun is going to be out when he performs, because it's in San Francisco. And it actually makes one of those weird halftime show performances because it's in the daylight and it's not in an indoor stadium. So one thing about the Michael Jackson halftime show at the Rose bowl that was so crazy was, yeah, it was in the daytime.
Rich Eisen
We forget that there's no. Not everyone's going to have their little wristband with the glowing and the light show. This is straight up like bed bunny daylight.
Dan Beyer
And I was at, I was at the last super bowl, Super Bowl 50 between the Broncos and Panthers when it was cold play. And then they brought up Beyonce and Bruno Mars and it was daylight. It's like 4:20 in the afternoon. You know, like, I mean it's. Sun is starting to set, but there is no hint of darkness whatsoever.
Rich Eisen
So your thoughts, if you want to chime in. Bad Bunny, your Super bowl halftime show. I think it's just obvious that it's not for everyone, but it's not. We love to think it's supposed to be for you. My father in law recently was saying, you know what I miss, Rich? I'm like, what Dave? He's like, you know, we need to bring back, we need to bring back. I like, I used to love to read the box scores in the newspaper.
Danny G
And I was like, that's not how your dad sounds. You gotta impersonate.
Rich Eisen
No, that's my father in law.
Danny G
Oh, your father in law? Yeah, you can't impersonate him.
Rich Eisen
A little southern, but he lost it a little bit. But Dave will be like, rich, know what I forget and know what I miss? He's talking about box scores. And I'm like, yeah, Dave, like just go on your phone and click on the app and then you click on passing and he wants to like read it. And I go, unfortunately, you know who that appeals to your generation. And people are not worried about.
Danny G
Kids don't even know we used to have that.
Rich Eisen
Yeah, no one. No one's worried about that in your. No one, no one's trying to worry about what a 60, 70, 80 year old guy thinks, unfortunately. So this is definitely a pick for the younger people. And hey, you know what? I think it is funny how we overanalyze what's going to end up being 15 to 20 minutes of your life six months from now. I think we'll be okay. I think it'll be fun. Bad Bunny, you know, there's gonna be hot dancers. You know, he's gonna put on a show. You just may not understand anything he says. But you know what? Hey, you have a few months to do some Rosetta Stone. Learn a little more Spanish if you're too worried about it. So, Bad Bunny, halftime show. That was the first thing that made me go yesterday. Now, before we go over all the daytime games last night, one of those nights where everyone, my family was just all in the living room chilling out, we let our kids stay up a little later because they were sort of watching the football game and sort of learning the game a little bit more last night. They both seemed sort of locked in. Cowboys, Packers. My wife's family, packers fan. So they're watching and I'm explaining. I see the yellow line. That's a first down. They get four chances to get 10 yards. I'm like doing the dad instructional and of all games, I'm trying to teach them about the rules. It's a damn tie. And then I had to think to myself, well, do I have any real feelings about a tie? And I think I'm going to defend the tie. Today. I'm going to defend the bolo tie because I think it's a cool look. Remember, Philip Rivers would rock the bolo tie. I'm going to defend the tie in football because I think what it does to the standings is awesome. Because at the end of the year, if you're OCD about seeing what team is where now the packers are probably going to be like 11, 5 and 1, 10, 6 and 1, the 12, 4. Yeah, that one is going to really mess up that north. But do you think there's something really crappy about two teams battling four quarters plus overtime and it's 40, 40. And they both walk away like, yeah.
Danny G
I didn't like it.
Rich Eisen
How do you fix it, though? We talked about this for years, and my solution is simple. Damn buyer. Add 5 minutes. Yes, each team got the ball. And it seems like each team with the legit possession equals about 10 minutes. If you had five more minutes left in that overtime, Period. Just make it another quarter, 15 minutes. I think someone urgently moves the ball down the field and at least tries a winning field goal. I think 10 minutes is just designed for a tie in a weird way.
Dan Beyer
It 100% is in. Previously, I think they were just trying to get the game over with on the first score that wins the game. And then you do the thing where you're like, okay, well now it's got to be both teams have first touchdown wins the game. So if you kick a field goal that led lent it to. All right, let's go ahead. We're going to have more ties because they did. There were multiple ties in previous seasons under the old rule of field goal does not win it for you. Touchdown wins it for you. There were more ties now with this. They never changed the period length. Adding five more minutes to the quarter would be a huge, huge difference because it just doesn't make any sense to have it this way when if you are going to have a field goal drive, it's probably going to be about four to five minutes, especially two if one of the teams is always going for it on fourth down if they need to because they have to tie the game because they're trailing at that point.
Rich Eisen
And like you said, the length of a drive in that situation is about four to five minutes. Do that two times you match field goals to tie. I just. My team hasn't tied in a long time. I would love to hear from a Packers fan or a Cowboys fan. How are you feeling today? Is it like because you're not, you know, your football team does determine your mood? I'm a little sour today. My Mets lost and the Niners lost. So today I woke up and I'm like, yeah, sort of feel a little, I guess. If your team ties, do you. Do you feel good about that? Like after the game, even when the players were bro hugging and the coaches were shaking hands, it almost feels like an odd. Like, you know when you're at a blackjack table and you're like, sweet, I got a 20 and the dealer flips a 20.
Danny G
Well, it was better for packers fans than running out of time there at the end with that pass that went out of bounds because that would have been a disaster.
Rich Eisen
They're so lucky that that ball immediately.
Sam Spotty
Went down one second ago. I just think ties happen so infrequent like they had was a couple of years ago. We had like two or three in a season. But I think you just sort of move on and deal with it because they happen infrequently enough that most of the time you do have a winner and a loser. But there it happens. And it is a weird feeling. It's like you have to tell your kids this one, like, thing that happens that doesn't happen very often, but you have to explain it. And you're like, it's like not a win or a loss, it's a tie, it's a draw.
Rich Eisen
I don't know. I mean, I like it because again, I feel like it's at the end of the season. It's always fun because it messes up your playoff positions and standings and rankings. Just for all you know, towards the end of the year, the Lions and Packers, they might be battling and it's like, ooh, that half a game is either going to work for or against the Packers. So you're right. Better than a loss. But do we think ties stink?
Dan Beyer
From 2017 to 2024, we had seven tie games in the NFL.
Rich Eisen
So I guess, you know what, I'll defend the tie and say it's so rare that it's sort of fun. Mixes it up. I just don't know what the fan bases feel like afterwards. It really is. It's like imagine. All right. I can't really think of anything else that feels so like I'm not happy, but I'm not mad.
Dan Beyer
Can I change your mind on this?
Rich Eisen
Yes.
Dan Beyer
1974 to 2011. So if we had seven ties from 2017 to 2024, from 1974 to 2011, 37 years, how many ties do you think we had in the NFL?
Sam Spotty
Way more.
Rich Eisen
Ooh.
Dan Beyer
So if we had seven in that seven year span, how many you think we had in a 37 year span? You want to go around? You want to see?
Rich Eisen
Yeah. I feel like, oddly, I feel like every year as a kid there was like, I know the nine, the Niners had a tie one year. And I know that a less though, I'm going to say 25.
Dan Beyer
25?
Rich Eisen
Yeah.
Sam Spotty
So this is over 30 some.
Rich Eisen
How many years? 74 to 25.
Dan Beyer
Yeah. 37 years.
Sam Spotty
I'm going to say 50.
Dan Beyer
Okay. Danny?
Danny G
I'll say 23.
Dan Beyer
We had 17. So you guys were in the ballpark. But if you were to take the seven years times that from the previous window times, you know, this five times, you'd have thought we would have had 35 to 40 ties if under the previous format it was in going along that same pace. But it's not. It's way ahead of that pace. So There were only 17 and 37 years yet in the previous seven years we had seven ties.
Rich Eisen
I heard this morning.
Sam Spotty
Wait, wait, wait. Why is that though? Is that because like didn't they.
Dan Beyer
Because of what Rich is talking about? Yeah, it's because of the, because of the 10 minute quarters. Used to just be the sudden death of a team scoring and there were 15 minute quarters at that time.
Rich Eisen
You score 15 minutes, you score, you win. And then it was score. If it's a touchdown, you win, field goal, they have a chance to match it. It was just more of a chance for something to happen. Ten minutes in the NFL that's like again Dan Byer said it, it's like two drives tops.
Dan Beyer
So once a year and at one point we were averaging about once every one every three years. Now they're happening once a year because of the new rules.
Sam Spotty
So for a long time the rule was sudden death. But if could just score, period. It ended in a tie, correct? Yeah, yeah. I don't know.
Dan Beyer
Seven years ago, eight years ago now in 2017 that they shortened the overtime from five to 10 minutes. And during that seven year span we averaged about a tie a season. And that was, they were very rare when we were growing.
Sam Spotty
Was there a couple years ago where there was like two or three in a season?
Rich Eisen
There's been a couple. Now I heard this morning someone saying Dan Patrick and the Dan Aettes were discussing like, should there be some fun type of like kicking contest? Like you know in soccer there's a, you know, at the end of the game they'll do penalty kicks. Like penalty kicks. What if your field goal kickers went out there and they're like, all right now we're going to go 40 yards, 50 yards, 60 yards. Like do we want to see that? College football seems like everyone loves that, but I feel like the NFL so resistant to do that.
Dan Beyer
I don't think everybody loves college football. Yeah, yeah.
Danny G
It's too gimmicky after a hard fought NFL game.
Dan Beyer
Yeah. Especially with college kickers in putting it that way.
Sam Spotty
You have to do like two point conversions after a certain amount of overtimes and it, you know, it gets a little crazy.
Dan Beyer
What I think is interesting is this point of how do you settle it? Because we only go to penalty kicks after you play extra time in soccer. Like that's, there is a whole extra time period where you then go to penalty kicks. Same thing here. Like we've played a 10 minute overtime period, we are still tied. So going to a kickoff. I have a, I have a branch off idea of that. It's like Name that tune. You bid on how far you can make the kick. So if a team says, all right, we can make it from 50, and then the other team says, we can make it from 55, we can make it from 58, we can make it from 60, make that kick.
Rich Eisen
You know what? This is like, there was a game show, I feel like where they were. Like, I can name that song in three notes. How great. I can name that song in two notes. Yeah.
Dan Beyer
All of a sudden now the Cowboys have to kick a 68 yard field goal, and if they miss it, the packers win. Like, that would be amazing.
Rich Eisen
That would be what Dr. That is wild.
Danny G
How about if we put both head coaches in the center of the field and have them do rock paper scissors?
Rich Eisen
Danny, you suck.
Dan Beyer
Pete Carroll.
Rich Eisen
What's interesting you did paper is that, you know, people would love to be like, well, the biggest international sport is definitely soccer. Football. And there are ties all the time. Right. Soccer is one of those games that often. I know this from watching Ted Lasso. Soccer ends in ties, and it seems.
Sam Spotty
Like not a lot of scoring.
Rich Eisen
It seems like that international audience is okay with it. Maybe we're just used to the NFL. It's so rare that a tie just feels like. So wait. The Cowboys and Packers battle. The return of Michael Parsons. Going to Jerry Jones in the booth every 10 minutes to see his reaction. 40 to 40, and we just walk away like Tiger.
Dan Beyer
The reason, I think, is because at least in soccer, you get a point for it. Yeah, you at least come away. You didn't get the full three, but you get something from it here. I feel like you're only going to be happy at the end of the year when. And it will. It will help one of the teams. Because as much as you'd love to have the win, you don't have the loss.
Rich Eisen
Loss. Watch, the packers are going to be 12, 4 and 1, or something like that. They're going to be like 11, 5 and 1. Someone else is going to be 11 and 6 and that half a game may help them. Or yes, could be the opposite. We don't know. But just. It's a. It's a good one. It's. I feel like I'm. I'm torn on it, but I do feel like if I had a pick. If you. If you're saying, rich, make a decision.
Danny G
We're such a passing league now. Instead of kick. Kicking a field goal thing at the end for sudden death, what if we did? Each quarterback goes on the field and see how far they can throw the football almost like a javelin throw.
Rich Eisen
Now you talk about a punt passing kick competition at the end of the game. You know what I Pro Bowl. I do have other thoughts. Obviously. We have just started our things that made you go week four of the NFL. We're going to take all your feedback. I see the phones are hot. Let's go. Cavino and Rich, all your observations. Football. Hey, throw him baseball if you want. It was the final weekend. Did your MVP decision in your mind change? And I have a thought about the wild card round that starts tomorrow. So we'll get to all that and more. Action packed Monday, Covino and Rich right here on Fox Sports Radio.
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Dan Beyer
You know, there's something else to your point that I think that we don't think of. So last night when the coin flip happened and you'll. We go back to Super Bowl 58 now. Oh, and the 49ers, do we have to taking the ball.
Rich Eisen
Right.
Dan Beyer
And that was so last night. Packers win the toss and defer. They say they want to kick off, but if you were to add five more minutes, you know, like in that scenario, if both teams kick the field goal, it's then advantage Cowboys because you would get another possession.
Rich Eisen
Exactly.
Dan Beyer
Which I think would negate the value of the coin toss, which is very valuable that you can go second in that situation.
Rich Eisen
So it's. Listen, how do you fix it? Are DB and I onto something like if you had 5 minutes, does it just sort of fix it enough? So much and five minutes at five minutes.
Sam Spotty
But that game was so back and forth. What if that five minutes was just spent trading, you know, scores.
Rich Eisen
But whatever. But what we're saying, it does give.
Sam Spotty
You a chance to, you know, two.
Rich Eisen
Possessions equals about 10 minutes. And you saw that in overtime. And then, you know, overtime was over. Tight game.
Dan Beyer
Yes.
Sam Spotty
That extra 5 would allow someone else just to.
Dan Beyer
It would allow Dallas, who did not win the toss. Green Bay had their advantage of going second. It now shifts to Dallas having an advantage where they could then be able to score and end the game. Because both teams would have a possession.
Rich Eisen
Exactly. And then. And Dallas gets the ball with four or five minutes and all of a sudden, you know, Green Bay uses their timeouts, they get the ball back, try to kick a game winner. That extra five minutes, I think is the simple fix.
Dan Beyer
I think, because I think the coin toss, it's at the start of the game. It's not a bigger deal. Most teams defer and take the ball at the second half. But when you're talking about overtime, it is a really big deal. There's a lot of weight on that coin toss. By adding five minutes, at least it gives the team that loses that coin toss a little bit of value at the Back end of it if it works out their way.
Rich Eisen
Agreed? 100%. Let's go to Dave in Oregon. You're on with Kavino and Rich. What's up, Dave? My nights are nonsense. How you doing, fellas? What's up, buddy? Hey, man. Let's think outside the box on this. I was talking to Danny G about this. Why don't we just get rid of the game clock and same rules apply until we get a winner. No game clock. Just get rid of the clock. I thought you were going to say mud wrestling with the cheerleaders. No. All right. Cliff in North Carolina, Cliff, how do you solve overtime? Or do you like the tie? You know, I imagine there's some people that are like, no, a tie is a tie. It messes up the standings. It shakes it up. What do you think, Cliff? I think there's only winners and losers. There's no tie. I hate telling my. I hate telling my kids in kids sports. I hate when I have to, like, lie to my kids and be like, oh, we're not keeping score. It's a tie because someone did better. Someone always does better. I hate a tie. Herman Edwards would say, you play to win the game. You don't play to tie. Db Guess how long.
Dan Beyer
Guess how long overtime is in the postseason.
Rich Eisen
How long?
Dan Beyer
15 minutes.
Rich Eisen
Bingo.
Dan Beyer
Until you find a winner. Go another 15 minutes.
Rich Eisen
And so it's such a simple.
Dan Beyer
Only done for TV. It's the only reason why it's 10 minutes. They want. They want it done. They want it wrapped up. And if people aren't satisfied, then make the change.
Rich Eisen
You play to win the game. I mean, I think you do all right. So there you have it. That was something that made us go.
Dan Beyer
My wife. Last night, you were saying you were explaining to your in laws about what was going on. My wife is like, well, then what happens for the people who bet, you know? So I was gonna get your money back.
Rich Eisen
I don't even want to talk about. Can I tell you what happened? Nothing. Nothing. I'm not even joking.
Sam Spotty
Give me my money back.
Rich Eisen
No one likes to hear other people's bad beats, but. But I'm the host, so let me share for a second. I did a bet that I didn't even announce on the air. I bet what I bet on the air. Did all right this week. I said, you know what? I don't really have much action left. Let me do a teaser bet for Sunday Night Football. And I like the Broncos tonight. So I had the Broncos in a teaser. That's where you play with six points, it was packers by six and a half. So I had packers minus half a point and the Cowboys, I'm sorry. And the Broncos tonight had minus one and a half. So I was like, all right, packers by a half a point in Broncos tonight. That feels good. Half a point. Mm. Come up. Come on. So it does burn some people. One other observation that will go to Dan Buyers Update. We'll take all your feedback. Danny G. Any, any final thoughts on the tie?
Danny G
No final thoughts on that. I'm just thinking of the, the actual game, the other games now.
Rich Eisen
All right, I, my observation is that we're talking about overtime. The kicking game in the NFL has changed so dramatically from when we were younger. If you're a kid of the 80s or 90s or even, even you, let's say you go back to the 70s, a field goal kicker was considered of high value. If he could kick a field goal, what like 40 something yards? That was like a boot. We forget. The Buffalo Bills lost a Super bowl on a missed 39 yard field goal. And I almost want to argue that it wasn't even so automatic back in 1990. 91, 92. Like that was not. It wasn't so automatic. Now what used to be a miracle field go like, oh my God, he's going to line up for something over 50 yards. I feel like most teams with confidence could kick a 50 yard field goal. Is that a fair statement compared to 20, 30 years ago?
Dan Beyer
Yeah, I saw a couple of teams settling for 50 yarders yesterday on the packers with McManus and then even Danny's Raiders against the Bears.
Rich Eisen
And sometimes these guys will knock a field goal through the uprights. Let's say it's a 53 yarder and I'm like, yo, that had 10 yards extra on. It's hitting the net. When a 53 yard field goal hits the net, that could have went for 60 something yards. And you're seeing because of that though, the trajectory of the kick has changed. You're seeing line drive 60 yard bomb field goals that are like happening on the regular, but you're seeing more block field goals because when you're kicking a 60 yard attempt, you can't not try to put a little distance on it. And by distance, you know, science guy Rich Davis here, your angle changes. So I think the kicking game has changed special teams and everything completely.
Danny G
The big uglies are learning how to time it perfectly and get their big mitts up there to block it.
Rich Eisen
Because these aren't big, these aren't like athletic Guys that are jumping, you know, in the air, these are just big dudes sticking the paw up.
Dan Beyer
Yes. I do think that, though, that the kicking game has evolved to the point because it's a little bit like golf where if you can hit your nine iron 20 or 30 yards further, it's still going to get the same sort of trajectory and get high up. I feel these guys can get the ball higher and they don't need to be as low anymore. So what was a 50 yarder back in the day at that trajectory is now a 62 yard field goal at that trajectory that is more likely to be blocked.
Rich Eisen
I just, I find it wild that the field goal kicker has become, in my opinion, such a more important. Listen, special teams is always such a key element of a game, but I think more so than ever, having a kicker you can rely on is so, so important. I know that seems like an obvious statement, but when you, when you get the. There's guys where you're like, yo, if we get a. Across the 50, we might have a chance. If you, if you get it to the 40, 45 yard line on the other side, I think we could do this. That's a wild thought. That's, that's a very big advantage for good kickers. All right, let's, let's go to Dan for an update. We'll see what's going on. What's up, db?
Dan Beyer
Yeah, the guys. This is what John Harbaugh had to say about Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson, who suffered that hamstring injury in yesterday's game against the Kansas City Chiefs.
Rich Eisen
There's no way he was going to go back in the game that, that would. The injury precluded it, you know, during the game, you know, you really just, you're, you're playing the next series as a coach, but there was no way he could go back in the game. I, I know Lamar. I know the way I know Lamar. If he could have gone in the game, he would have been in the game. That's how Lamar, that's how he is.
Dan Beyer
Ravens have the Texans coming up in Week five. Harbaugh says they'll know more Wednesday about Lamar's status for that game. Harbaugh did reveal that defensive lineman Namdi Matabike is going to miss the rest of the season because of a neck injury. 49ers quarterback Brock Purdy had a setback with his toe injury. His status for Thursday's game against the Rams up in the air. Wide receiver Ricky Pierce all suffered an INJ to the PCL in his knee. His status for Week five is not known at this time. And speaking of knee injuries to wide receivers, Giants wide receiver Malik Neighbors officially placed on injured reserve. His season is over after he tore his ACL and yesterday's win over the Chargers. Week four tonight, jets and Dolphins, 7:15 Eastern. Bengals and Broncos 8:15 Eastern time tonight. Couple of other notes. Raiders tackle Colton Miller could miss multiple weeks because of an apparent high ankle sprain. And the Texans tried to tackle Cam Robinson to the Browns as the teams also swapped late round picks. San Francisco Giants fired skipper Bob Melvin after seasons and after seven seasons, Rocco Baldelli's tenure as the twin skipper is over. Led Minnesota to the postseason three times. Never got past the divisional series. Looking for a new skipper in the Twin Cities. Rich, back to you.
Rich Eisen
Yeah, thank you. Dan Beyer. And hey, we got the whole crew here. Danny G, Iowa, Sam Spotty's on the videos and Dan Byer. Thank you guys for hanging. Little, little group today, right? We got it. We got the, we got the band here. Everyone's chiming in. Cavino's away for the day. When it comes to things that made you go, let me, let me bring up one more football note. We're going to go over a lot of football. Don't get me wrong, I just had one baseball thought as well. The baseball note is I feel like the Mets not only blew it for the fans, not only blew it for their owner who does nothing but spend money and treat these players and families. Steve Cohen must be sick to his stomach. So I want to go over Steve Cohen's statement, but when you look at the wild card games that are going on this week, MLB ratings are going to be huge because they're not competing with much. You got what, Thursday Night Football. Besides that baseball wildcard. Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. Listen to these matchups. Tigers guardians who have been battling all year. The Tigers let it slip away. So Tigers guardians, Padres who are so fun, Tatis and Machado, they're going to play in Wrigley vs. The Cubs, Red Sox, Yankees. And the Mets blew it for baseball because it would have been Mets, Dodgers, but now it's Reds, Dodgers. Who cares about the Reds unless you live in Cincinnati. Is that not the most bunk? Last minute 83 win. It's embarrassing, but we'll talk a little baseball playoffs and of course, all the things that made you go hmm in the NFL. More Kavino and Rich next.
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Sam Spotty
Hey, Rich.
Rich Eisen
Yeah, buddy.
Sam Spotty
You know what's crazy about that play? Me and Danny both witnessed it live in person because we were at that game yesterday.
Rich Eisen
Well, you guys went.
Sam Spotty
We got tickets through work here thanks to Scott Shapiro, our boss and we were sitting right next to each other and we got to watch that whole game play out.
Rich Eisen
Look at you guys.
Sam Spotty
It was fun.
Rich Eisen
I feel bad for our Boston and Scott go to see he went over.
Sam Spotty
There to Ireland but he gets a little trip involved there.
Rich Eisen
So yeah, if you make a nice trip like that, does your team losing put a damper on it or is it like. No, I'm making the best of it. I'm in Ireland. Yeah.
Dan Beyer
This is a regular season game.
Rich Eisen
So one off.
Dan Beyer
I think it's more about going to see your team than what the actual outcome is.
Danny G
Tomlin almost gave it back to them. He decided to punt there, see the end of that game. And the Vikings, if it wasn't for the intentional grounding call and a couple of errors, they would have got into field goal range.
Rich Eisen
Ooh. And by the way, just like that, Aaron Rodgers and The Steelers are 3 and 1, everybody. 3 and 1, everybody. It's not pretty, but they're 3 and 1, man.
Dan Beyer
Yeah, it's not even close. And. And when you look at how they did it. So the jets game, Remember?
Rich Eisen
Wild Week 160 something yard field goal. Yeah.
Dan Beyer
Seahawks beat them. The Caleb Johnson. Sorry, Sam. Miss Q Completely turned the game over last week. The Patriots turned the ball over five a couple of times as they're about to score. They win by seven. And then they have this thing and whatever you want to call what they.
Rich Eisen
Did against the Vikings saying Aaron Rodgers still bringing it.
Dan Beyer
I'll also say this something that Rich and I love and I sent a tweet and it went viral. Meaning like one person liked it yesterday. But the we finally saw what the Vikings end zone would look like if they made a Super Bowl. Now the NFL is putting every team in the end zone. They did it with the Chargers and Chiefs having both of the team names in Brazil. This week it's Vikings and Browns in London. I'm curious if we're going to see a Browns end zone. What would you do with the logo? Do you do a helmet? Do you put the little Browns guy, Brownie guy?
Rich Eisen
We haven't had to think about this because they've never been to a Super bowl.
Dan Beyer
But I'm wondering if we're going to see it when they, when they play on Sunday also.
Danny G
How crazy is it the Vikes are going to be the first team to play back to back international games?
Rich Eisen
The Jaguars, you think they're excited about the stamps on their passport? Like my wife loves getting the stamps on the passport. Oh, I'm sure they love it.
Dan Beyer
But yeah, to do the two different countries the Jaguars stayed back to back weeks. Yeah. In London they played back to back weeks. But to go from brutal, you know, not that far, but still different scenery.
Rich Eisen
I have like a pervy question. Do you think those guys are just getting a lot of international tail when they're, when they're like overseas for a week or so and they're sticking around and traveling? Do you think, do you think these guys like, well, I'm in a foreign land. Let me start. You think they're swiping spot. What do you think you're on those absence. You think these guys are swiping away? They're NFL stars in a foreign country.
Dan Beyer
They know better.
Rich Eisen
Well, Brazil versus Europe, avoiding the drama. I don't know.
Danny G
Did you see what happened to the Steelers backup quarterback, Skyler Thompson?
Rich Eisen
Well, yeah, he's out at 34 in the morning.
Danny G
Got dropped and robbed.
Rich Eisen
Yeah, luckily he's all good. All right. Other things that made you go Week four of the NFL Danny G. I got to say, your Raiders. What? When Genti stands up before he receives, you know, the balls. Yeah.
Danny G
And when JPJ is on the O line like we talked about on Friday's.
Rich Eisen
Show, Genti finally showed everyone what we thought he was going to be from week one. But he's a rook man. Week four. It was cool to see him bust open those high steps. What, 64?
Danny G
They gave him some running room too.
Rich Eisen
So that was pretty good. Your team lost, but you know what? You saw some good signs, right? What an emotional week for Giants fans, right? You got to see Jackson dart. But then you also find out the sad fate of Malik Neighbors. So we'll talk more NFL Week 4 right here.
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Date: September 30, 2025
Podcast: The Dan Patrick Show (Covino & Rich)
Host: Rich Eisen (w/ Dan Beyer, Danny G, Sam Spotty)
Network: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network
This episode centers on NFL Week 4 highlights, the reaction to the announcement of Bad Bunny as the Super Bowl halftime act, and the prevalence of ties in football games. Rich Eisen, hosting solo in Covino’s absence, leads a freewheeling, humorous discussion with regular contributors and listeners, focusing on what made NFL Week 4 a head-scratcher. Lively banter touches on pop culture and sports, unpacking the logic behind recent league decisions and sharing relatable “things that made you go hmm.”
"It's like the worst bet I've ever lost in my life by far. $2,100. That's gross. But hey, he's in Mexico… on me, apparently." — Rich Eisen [04:03]
Timestamps: ~07:05–14:44, 30:34–31:55
“Having Bad Bunny at the Super Bowl halftime show is the equivalent of having Morgan Wallen at a big soccer game in Mexico. It’s just not fit for the right sport.” — [11:17]
“It’s a clear indication… you’re not the demo they’re going after… They got you. They want the next generation.” [09:16]
“You just may not understand anything he says. But you know what? Hey, you have a few months to do some Rosetta Stone.” — Rich Eisen [14:44]
Timestamps: 16:48–36:33, 31:55–35:37
“Ten minutes is just designed for a tie in a weird way.” — Rich Eisen [17:15]
“There were only 17 [ties] in 37 years… yet in the previous seven years we’ve had seven ties.” — Dan Beyer [21:07]
Timestamps: 36:33–39:35
Timestamps: 41:03–42:46
Timestamps: 47:49–51:35
| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker / Context | |-----------|-------|------------------| | 04:03 | "Yeah, that's the weakest ass way to start a show ever. Reminding me that I owe Steve Kavino $2,100." | Rich Eisen on the lost bet | | 07:05 | "There's only two undefeated teams left after four weeks of the NFL… showing the parity in the league. But we gotta talk about Bad Bunny…" | Rich Eisen, setting up the “Hmm” moment | | 09:16 | "Let's be honest, middle aged white guy who loves football, and you're locked in. They got you. They're going after the younger generation." | Rich Eisen on NFL’s halftime show logic | | 11:17 | "Having Bad Bunny at the Super Bowl halftime show is the equivalent of having Morgan Wallen at a big soccer game in Mexico." | Listener Eric (read by Danny G) | | 14:44 | "You just may not understand anything he says. But you know what? You have a few months to do some Rosetta Stone." | Rich Eisen on learning Spanish for Bad Bunny’s show | | 17:15 | "Ten minutes is just designed for a tie in a weird way." | Rich Eisen on NFL overtime rules | | 21:07 | “There were only 17 [ties] in 37 years… yet in the previous seven years we’ve had seven ties.” | Dan Beyer’s tie stats | | 33:44 | "By adding five minutes, at least it gives the team that loses that coin toss a little bit of value at the back end of it." | Dan Beyer on suggested overtime fix | | 36:30 | "No one likes to hear other people's bad beats, but… I did a teaser bet for Sunday Night Football… and [the tie] burns some people." | Rich Eisen, betting tales | | 38:58 | “A field goal kicker was considered of high value if he could kick a field goal, what, like 40-something yards? That was like a boot. ...Now...most teams...could kick a 50 yard field goal.” | Rich Eisen on the evolution of the kicking game | | 47:57 | "Me and Danny both witnessed it live in person because we were at that [Rams-Colts] game yesterday." | Sam Spotty on attending the play of the day |
| Segment Topic | Start Time | End Time | |-------------------------------|------------|------------| | Betting Woes / Covino in Mexico| 03:57 | 05:20 | | “Blow It Up?” Team Debate | 05:20 | 06:27 | | Bad Bunny Halftime Announcement| 07:05 | 14:44 | | NFL Tie Discussion | 16:48 | 36:33 | | NFL Overtime Fan Reactions | 31:55 | 35:37 | | NFL Kicking Game Evolution | 36:33 | 39:35 | | MLB Wildcard/Mets Lament | 41:03 | 42:46 | | NFL Week 4 Misc. Recap | 47:49 | 51:35 |
This episode delivers signature Covino & Rich commentary on why certain NFL moments and pop culture decisions made them go “hmm...” this week, with an extra helping of banter about ties, halftime show culture wars, betting heartache, and why the NFL isn’t catering to their dad or yours. Whether you’re wondering about overtime logic, how soccer audiences think about ties, or just curious who got burned by the Packers-Cowboys tie, this show covers all the angles with levity and real fandom.