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Find your local station for Kavito Rich at fo sportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. All right, Covino and Rich, we standing up today? We McAfee ing it or what? Let's go. I'll stand with you.
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Well, if we're gonna McAfee, let me rip my sleeves off.
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Let me show off my tries. Covino and Rich, you need to try hard. Covino and Dicky.
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We are two cool dudes.
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Hey, bud.
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Now, dare I say, let's go. Giants, they're playing the Diamondbacks. And if you're a baseball fan winning, it's the part of the year where you don't only root for your team. You root against teams. You root for some teams. So right now, I fear the Diamondback.
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Slightly more in the beard, bro. Fear the beard.
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By the way, does everyone know, did we bring this up on FSR yesterday?
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It went viral, courtesy of Joe Rogan.
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We do this so many. We do so many shows and podcasts together. I was unaware. I bet you DB doesn't know this. And Dan Byers, a man of knowledge. Do you know how Charlie Sheen got the whole tiger blood winning? Do you know who he got that from?
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I saw the clip. So I would cheat, but I did not know before I saw the clip.
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Either did I, before I saw the clip of Charlie Sheen on Rogan. You know Charlie Sheen, big baseball guy. So he's watching highlights in the 2000 and tens, and he sees Brian Wilson.
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Of Giants when he was on top of his game. Fear the beard. Brian Wilson, Not Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys, as Joe Rogan thought, which is fair. Brian Wilson of the Giants, the beard. And then Romo had the beard. The whole team had the beard. Everyone in the stands had the beard, fear, the beard, very eccentric, nasty reliever.
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Yeah, you're right.
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So the beard, he lived in a Volkswagen bus.
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Brian Wilson impressed Charlie Sheen so much when Sheen, who loves baseball, was watching highlights, that he told his best friend, and by the way, everyone needs a friend like Tony Todd.
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He's like, tony, get him on the phone.
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So Tony Todd gets Brian Wilson of the Giants on the phone for Charlie Sheen. And they're just chopping it up, talking baseball, talking life. And Brian Wilson says to Charlie Sheen, you know, guys like us, you know, Charlie, I'm glad you called. Guys like us have tiger blood. We don't know what it's like to lose.
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We're so busy winning, we have Adonis DNA. And when that infamous interview aired, all that stuff was stored in his cracked out brain and it just came spilling out and went viral. And life. And life was never the same again.
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So when Charlie Sheen, like you said, when he got shook in that interview, that conversation with Brian Wilson came to the forefront. Winning tiger blood.
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Because all those years, you know, we gave him the credit and, and he made it famous. He took the ball and ran with it. But it was from Brian Wilson, the.
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Reliever, who, by the way, peculiar, awesome baseball pitcher. Are you not shocked, though, that over the last 15 years, none of us have heard that story like Brian Wilson, even in an interview, hasn't ever said, hey, you know, the whole tiger blood winning thing, yeah, me and Charlie Sheen, that was like my thing.
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Well, you know what was interesting too is Charlie Sheen told the story as if Brian Wilson was giving him a pep talk of sorts. And that's how he perceived it. And it fired him up and he just blurted it out and that was it.
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Brian Wilson was really good. I remember covering a couple of all star games that he would appear in. But there was, there was something there. But when he said it, at first, it took me a second. I'm like, ah, yes, that Brian Wilson. Absolutely.
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It makes sense.
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Sergio Romo took over that role years later on with the, with the. And he also had the beard.
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You needed to have a beard at one point to be a dominant closer for the Giants.
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So really, you know what it is, Brian Wilson. And if you look back, I promise you he started the explosion of the beard. I give him the credit and I have for years. The beard always existed, but for us in our generation, it really wasn't that much of a thing. Everyone in the stands, they had beard night, they were growing beards. The beard came back. He was known for the Beard.
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Look around now. Every group of buddies has at least one or two guys with a beard. Back then, when he had that beard, it was almost like, wow.
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Well, that's what made him stand out. He dyed it, and it was out of control. And he was known for it. Fear the beard. And it became a trend. So I give him not only credit for starting the beard revolution all over again. I don't think we saw beards like this since old presidential days.
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Rutherford B. Hayes.
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Yes, since Rutherford B. Hayes started his trend. And then you got to give him credit for the winning and Adonis DNA and Tiger blood and all that stuff. He's a trendsetter. Brian Wilson, who knew?
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And the Machine, too. Don't forget the. Don't forget about that guy.
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You don't remember the Machine?
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Who's the Machine?
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Who's the Machine?
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The guy in leather in the background during his interviews. You don't remember that?
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Oh, in the Charlie Sheen interviews?
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No, the Brian Wilson interviews.
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The machine. I know DJ Le Machine. LeMayhue.
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I know the machines, which were a terrible WWE tag team for a minute. The Machine. The Machines, which was Andre the Giant in a mask.
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I know Bert Kreischer. The Machine. So Pat Burrell. That's what he's talking about now. Yes, I do know Pat Burrell. All right, so that's the backstory that we didn't know until this past week, because Charlie Sheen's all over the place, courtesy of his new book and documentary on Netflix, which, by the way, we are shouted out in.
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Which is funny.
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Kind of. Our show name does appear in episode two of the Charlie Sheen documentary. So we're Kavino and Rich, broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studio. Kvino and Rich Adonis DNA.
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How'd we get here? I said I'm rooting for the Giants to beat the D backs today, and I'm winning. And add radio takes its course.
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If you miss any of today's show, you'll want to catch the podcast. Search Covino Enrich wherever you get your podcast after the show, Danny G. Puts up the best of and on Saturday's best of the week. So be sure to follow, rate and review. Covino enrich. Give us five stars. We appreciate it. And we're on YouTube. Like I said, Covino Enrich. FSR follow for free. Send it to a friend and let's get into it. So, Rich, I'm rooting for your Mets. Why not? Who cares? Yankees play the Twins tonight. Hope all your teams are winning. We're one day closer to Thursday. Night Football. We'll talk about it. And we're going to talk. Celebrating home runs. Speaking of baseball and midweek, Major nice Wednesday. Words of wisdom. We're giving away prizes like we always do.
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You're promising so much.
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Now we're going to get to it right now.
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We're talking Luca and Puka before that. Real quick. Yesterday we paid tribute to Robert Redford.
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Yeah.
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At the very end of the show. And we posted a clip on our Instagram and Twitter and all that at Covinon Rich. Talking about, is he the. Is he one of the goats? When it comes to sports movie actors, the Natural is Roy Hobbs. You know, is that the one?
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Oh, is that the king of all baseball movies?
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Yeah. And I bring that up because I got to give a shout out to again, multi time Emmy award winner John DeMarcico of the Mets SNY. We worked with him at SNY.
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What's up?
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John just won another Emmy award. I want to get him on our bonus pod over promised. I'm sure you guys have seen on social media how during some of the Mets games he does, like, cinematic.
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They get all artsy.
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Yeah, he gets all artsy and cinematic where the way he does split screens and fades and everything. Like, he takes it real serious. Yesterday during Brett Beatty's home run, he had the lights at Citi Field and then he had firework explosions and it looked like Roy Hobbs. Like he sort of replicated shot for shot the Natural.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah, it's pretty cool.
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That is very cool. So, yeah, catch our clip at Covinoenrich. We debated it. Would love your input. Rest in peace, Robert Redford. And rest in peace the days of hard work and pride in what you do. Rest in peace to the older generations that paved the way and taught us how to grind.
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Grandpappy who worked at the Same company for 60 years at the mill.
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Real, real men who work until they're 80 years old.
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Anyone else's grandfather be a man?
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Anyone else have a grandpappy that worked at the same place for like 50 years and he got like a watch when he retired? That was that generation. That was the World War II generation.
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Grandpappy has had like mangled something. Like my grandpappy, Tom Covino. Great man, mangled fingers. He was a butcher like his whole life.
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My, my grandfather, Bill Dempsey, my mom's dad. Yeah. Nine fingers. Yeah.
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What is up with that? Right? Because they worked hard, they fought in wars. Different generation. And that generation taught our parents to work hard and pick a career. And they taught us. But studies show our grandparents have the most influence on us. So we saw, we know their story and they sort of instilled that work ethic to us. But the newer generation, I'm not saying they got it wrong, but they think different. And we're seeing it in two related stories. And both of those stories are from superstar athletes Luca and Puka.
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Luka and Puka. Luca and Puka, interestingly enough, Kavino.
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And by the way, they said this separately. It just so happens to rhyme. Yeah, it's not like they were hanging out. They're not a new tag team duo.
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Coming down the aisle.
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Yes, Total coincidence, guys. So I'll start with Puka. You could take Luka.
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Okay.
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Actually, I'll start with Luca.
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Okay.
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Luca says, and this is according to Bleacher Report and a bunch of other sources, says he doesn't want a LeBron length career. Lakers Luka Doncic is not eyeing a LeBron length career. He's very interested in ownership moving forward. Like this is just a means to an end, just his pathway to something bigger. Yeah, I'm sure he loves basketball, but it's not the be all, end all. He wants to be a businessman. This is just part of the journey. Like we always say it. I forget who originated it, but we always say, because when these dudes retire, athletes retire. They're a young. They're an old man on the court, but a young man in life.
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I think that's a Derek Jeter thing. Cause I remember when Jeter retired, it was like, man, old ass Derek Jeter. It's like, oh, there's Derek, like 40.
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Old on the field, young man in life. So it's like, well, Luka is making all this money, but what's he going to do after that? Well, he doesn't have his eyes set on playing forever like LeBron did.
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Yeah, Rich, I was just going to say in the article, he says that he looks up to LeBron as a role model for building a successful business portfolio. And he wants to learn more about that from LeBron.
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And good for him, man, but disappointing for us. Right, because you want to see the journey as a fan.
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But you also talk about you and Danny G both watch that Shaq documentary on Netflix where Shaq is involved in a million business.
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Reebok.
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Now Puka Reebok. Let's shift to Puka. Louisiana Rams Puka Nakua said he wants to retire from the NFL around 30 years old, similar to Aaron Donald Nakua, who was 23 at the time when he said this, said he wants to have a big Family and we talked about this with Puka at the super bowl on Radio Row saying how long term effects of football injuries, wanting to have a big family, wanting to venture into other things play a factor. And to go back to the, you.
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Know, what plays the biggest factor. You said Shaq. Shaq played a long career. Long enough that he played for every color of the rainbow. He did. That's the funny meme, right? He played for every color of the rainbow. He played a long time. So he retired. Then he got into all the business stuff and the Papa John's and the insurance and the Icy Hot and Reebok and everything else. I get you fat burger. Whatever he owns, he owns everything. What this is, is when you overpay athletes, they don't need to play anymore. And you could say that's good or bad, depending on how you look at it. I think we as fans get chipped and that's just selfish on our part. Good for them on wanting to make moves. But you're cutting their career short. Their priorities not, you know, creating that legacy, breaking records, it's like getting out because they don't need to play. They've already got their bank.
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Generationally, there's two layers here. Let me break it down. Generationally, you talked about our grandparents, the World War II, the greatest generation. Then our parents, boomers, then here we are. And then, you know, your kids are living a way different life, right? Generationally, your grandfather may have worked at the same company for 50 plus years. Retired. Like, he's like, got a watch and he's like, I work for the electric company.
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And then he died five years later. He died five years later because he had no purpose.
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Younger people now are like, I want to live, man. I want to swim in a cenote in Tulum. And they're traveling. I'm backpacking through Europe and I. And they'll have like $600 to their name.
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You know what, let me make this clear, Rich, because I don't want to talk out of both sides of my mouth. I think they got it right. You gotta. You know, I had a friend once tell me, don't love your job. Job, your love.
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Stop it.
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Job, your love. Work, life, balance is great. I'm saying selfishly, as a fan, I don't like it.
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I think there's a balance, but good for them.
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I'm realizing, like, yeah, man, I don't need to put my health in jeopardy. I don't care about the records or playing 20 years. I got, I got hundreds of millions of dollars you need one big contract and then call it a day and invest in something and that's it.
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Kov, think about the younger person mentality and our grandparents mentality. Much like so many things, I feel like our generation perfectly sits in the middle where it's like we have the work ethic but we still appreciate and understand the importance of living life and leisure and all that. I think a 20 year old may have it wrong where they're like who cares about work? I just want to like see the pyramids and swim in a. Like I said cenote in Mexico, yet our grandparents want to backpack in Europe. I feel like my grandparents went on one vacation to like the Poconos for two days.
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My parents, my grandparents went to Hawaii one time and that was like the thrill of their life.
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And by the way, that is.
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And that was like for an anniversary that their kids sent them on.
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My grandparents drove to Canada one time and they thought they were world travelers.
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Yeah.
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So our grandparents got it wrong, but I think the younger kids now may have it wrong as well. The middle ground seems outright, but based on what you guys were all saying, if a guy like Pukin the Kua could sign one big contract, right? A guy like Luca, who you know how much money he's making. But a wide receiver in the NFL if you're elite, you see guys the Jamar chases and Justin Jefferson's of the world, they're making like 40 something million dollars a year. You sign one big contract, that is the equivalent of winning the Powerball. That is the equivalent of winning the mega middle millions.
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Why play another 5, 10 years if you could just like sit back and let your money invest in something and.
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Then watch your money grow. And unless you are a workhorse or a fanatic or like a sports junkie like a Brady or LeBron, that's like out to prove to the world they're, you know, something special and generational. I think a guy like Puka Mikua is saying, yo, within the next 10 years I'll have hundreds of millions of dollars. And guess what?
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Here's the problem.
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I could get if I could get out of this game before I have major leg or back or head injuries.
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Dude got stitches on the field. What was that two weeks ago? Yeah, it's not an easy lifestyle. You're putting your body through a lot of trauma, a lot of wear and tear. So I understand. Selfishly, as a fan, I don't like it. The problem lies with not everybody of that generation is Puka or Luka and a Lot of these young people have that same mentality without the fundage behind them, without a nest egg to sit back on or without a. What would your dad say? Pot the busy. Right? So that's the problem. It's a different mindset. It works for them because they make lots of money.
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Do you question their passion? I mean, I'm, I'm not. I don't want to put you on the spot, but when you hear a guy say, yeah, I want to retire.
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When I'm 30, I do because we grew up.
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But here's the guy getting sting. But I don't agree with it. Here's the guy getting switches on the field, dude, here's the guy.
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We talked about it yesterday for the love of the game. What happened to that? You don't have that same. And desire. When you're getting paid millions and millions of dollars, you're not playing to win, you're. You're sort of just sitting back. You don't have that same fight in that same hunger, unfortunately.
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Ask yourself this. Baseball, football, basketball, you could you pick your sport. Hot dog eating. When do you remember at first players being looked at as investments? Danny G. Is there a guy that stands out like a quarterback, a point guard, a baseball pitcher, where it's like, like you remember the narrative started like, well, we, we don't. You know, he's an investment. When, when, when did we start looking at athletes as investments? Because that's a turning point. It really is. Because before that you'd sign a guy, he made millions, but a couple million dollars back then, when you were kids in the 80s, it was a big deal when like a Nolan Ryan or Dave Winfield or Mike Schmidt, someone made like a million dollars. Now your middle, your middle reliever makes like $8 million. Your star player makes 25, 30, 40 million DOL.
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I can't think of the Dodger pitcher, it was 90s and he got his own plane, private plane, in the contract. Do you remember that?
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They're an investment in.
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I remember the LA sports scene was saying, well, this is an investment for the Dodgers because his contract was so lucrative and it had so many perks involved in it.
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I mean, I know.
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Not no more.
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I know, I know it was before this.
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I'll look it up right now.
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Listen, I know it was before this.
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But Winfield was one of the first to sign a million dollar deal though, so that's a good one.
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But as a Mets fan, I remember specifically this is like 10 years ago and I know it was way before them, but I remember Like a Matt Harvey, guys like that, they're like, oh, he's an investment.
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Was Kevin Brown.
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Kevin Brown, okay.
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Remember that huge contract he was given in 1999?
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Yep.
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What's up, Dan? Buyer?
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Guys, guys. It was Kevin Brown.
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Guys.
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Yeah, Kevin Brown.
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That's, that's tempered.
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Kevin Brown.
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Just a heads up, it was Kevin Brown who had the jet.
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Got it, kb.
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Thank you, buddy. So what are your thoughts, FOX Sports Radio Nation? Of course we're torn because selfishly, as, as fans, we want to see these guys go for the records and play out their career. But a younger generation's mindset is, no, I want to live my life. And now we're seeing that infiltrate into the sports world where they do have the luxury of being able to say, nah, I got plenty of money, I'm going to retire probably a good five to seven years earlier than they would have if they were still just playing for the paycheck or for the love of the game. They're taking the blueprint of, I don't want to say LeBron, but maybe of a businessman, put it that way, and using their money to invest in something.
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The money's just substantial. I think that's what it is.
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If you subs, it's almost too substantial.
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If in, if in 2025, which is where we're living, if athletes made two, three, four million dollars a year and after agent fees and taxes, they only played four or five years in a league, then they're going to try to play as long as they possibly can. Because after that, life could get scary. But when you're making, like I said, mega million Powerball money a year, you only need one big contract. Like we were saying, it's a couple million dollars a year. I'm certainly not saying that's chump change.
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I still remember my grandmother reacting to the news on TV that Dave Winfield signed that $1 million contract and her, her saying to play a kids game. And then as I look up Kevin Brown, he was the first $100 million man in baseball. Yeah, well, and that seems like a small contract.
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Now when you, when you think about.
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They got it, they've got it right. The bottom line is they got it right. It just, it hurts as fans to see. Because you want to see them play.
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You know how they have every right.
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To want to start a family and keep their health in check?
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Kov, you know how when, when we see those memes and they're real, they're not just like the memes on social media, how salaries versus the Price of housing, how it's substantially percentage wise has gone up. Like your dad may have made, you know, $40,000 or $30,000 and your parents bought a house for $80,000. Now you can make six figures and houses are millions of dollars. Like it's, it don't math. I think when we were younger, an athlete may have made 10 times more. A successful person, right? Let's say in the 80s, a six figure job. In the 80s you were balling. So imagine a six figure salary in the 80s and it's like Dave Winfield makes a million dollars. That's 10 times when guys in the NBA are making $60 million a year.
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Again, it's with endorsements.
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With endorsements, seek.
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What's the incentive to continue playing?
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Dude, play five years and be like, yo, peace out, suckers.
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Yeah, so I get it.
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So you gotta, you know, you gotta love that.
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This is the downside of spoiling these athletes. But again, in the same breath, good for them. Good for them. You would probably do the same.
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It's a great conversation. Would you want to play till you're 40 something or if you're Puka? I love his answer.
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He wants to be able to walk and raise a family.
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If you value family.
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But guess what? You could also start a family. Still very young guy. Derek Jeter started a family after his playing days.
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He played for 20 years. Yeah, but if Pukinokua wants to start a family young, not in his 40s, he's, you know, if he says he wants a big family and wants to be around, if he's saying, yo, like 30, I could check out and a.
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Lot of tread on the tires, he's still got a lot of gas in the tank. Any other analogy you want to throw in there, you know, there's still a lot of playing left in your, in your, in your legs, in your heart. That's why also it's like you think Canelo needs to fight. No, but he's still, he still has two more fights on his contract.
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I think people that get to that level for the most gotta really love it. I also think it's Unique Covino that there are people that think that way. Meaning, like they prioritize other things. Because I think to get to that level, you almost need to be obsessed.
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Like Tom Brady.
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So obsessed. Because like I think about some of the greats, like the Dan Patrick's, the Howard Sterns, the, you know, like even like Rogan, who's a young guy, Seacrest has like all these jobs. They don't need to do all that. Those people all have like Howard Stern's about to figure out this new deal with SiriusXM. We've all seen the headlines. Is he leaving? Is he coming? Howard Stern has made hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars.
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He's 500 million in his last contract. He's getting like almost $100 million bonuses a year.
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He's his kids are grown. He has mansions, hundreds of millions of dollars. He doesn't need to do it. So it's almost like Tom Brady ish, like you're obsessed with it.
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Yeah. You got hungry like Dee Snider said, like Sebastian Maniscalco said, stay hungry. But it's hard to stay hungry when they're feeding you so much money. And that's really what it comes down to. It really is a good for them and kind of asks for us because we want to see him play, we want to see him break records, we want to see their journey.
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Yeah.
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But props to Luka and Puka. If you just joined us, both athletes put out there Luka today, Puka on our show and recently they both just said they're not interested in like Lebron length career. They're interested in getting out healthy and investing their money and being businessmen, raising families moving forward. What are your thoughts? We gave you ours. Plus celebrating home runs. I want to talk about that. There's a really funny interesting thought about has the celebration's gone too far? It's not the showboating bat flipping that you're thinking of. We'll get to it.
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Hey, this is Matt Jones. I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week that is exactly what you're going to get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different.
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Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Looks like something that should not be sold.
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Oh my.
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So that was my other big Colts takeaway.
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They sold that? Yes.
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Might want to go back to the.
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Drawing board at the Colts stadium.
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Yeah, I might want to go back.
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To the drawing board on that.
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Yeah.
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I thought the shape we had with pretzels was working pretty well. It's worked for generations.
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We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year.
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And let's go. I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73.
C
He is a young 73. He is spry.
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I wouldn't fight him.
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I would listen. NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. What's up everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here and I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the Sticks, we take you inside the game from scouting reports and player building philosophies, coaching trends and how front offices construct winning rosters. Every week we study the tape, talk to decision makers and share the insights you won't find anywhere else. It's the kind of conversation that connects the dots. From college football prospects to the NFL stars of tomorrow. We break down the draft, analyze matchups and evaluate how teams put it all together on game day. Plus, we dig in the coaching strategies, roster construction and the trends that shape the league year after year. Whether you're a die hard fan or just love understanding the game on a deeper level, we give you the full picture. If you want insight that goes beyond the box score, this podcast is for you. Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Six podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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I'm Dan, he's Ty.
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Hello.
B
And we're the Solid Verbal College football podcast.
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College football season is here and you know what that means.
B
Your team is going to break your heart three times probably before Halloween. Uh huh.
C
But fear not, the Solid Verbal will be right there with you through every soul crushing loss. And impossible comeback.
B
Join us all season long, all year long, as we ride the rollercoaster of this ridiculous sport.
C
Whether you're a die hard fan or a casual observer, we'll help you make sense of all the chaos and of course, celebrate the madness. Tune in for previews, recaps, bits you won't hear anywhere else, and all the emotional support you need as a college football fan.
B
We don't just love college football, Ty, we live it.
C
Listen to the solid verbal college football podcasts on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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I had this like overwhelming sensation that I had to call her right there and I just hit call said, you know, hey, I'm Jacob Schick, I'm the CEO of One Tribe foundation and I.
C
Just wanted to go on and let.
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Her know there's a lot of people battling some of the very same things.
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You'Re battling and there is help out there.
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The Good Stuff Podcast Season two takes a deep look into One Tribe Foundation, a non profit fighting suicide in the veteran community. September is National Suicide Prevention Month, so join hosts Jacob and Ashley Schick as they bring you to the front lines of One Tribe's mission.
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I was married to a combat army.
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Veteran and he actually took his own life to suicide.
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One Tribe saved my life twice.
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There's a lot of love that flows through this place and it's sincere.
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Now.
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It's a personal mission.
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Don't have to go to any more funerals.
B
You know, I got blown up on a react mission. I ended up having amputation below the knee of my right leg and a traumatic brain injury because I landed on my head.
C
Welcome to season two of the Good Stuff.
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Listen to the Good Stuff podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Marcus Grant.
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And I'm Michael F. Florio and together we host the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Ready to dominate your fantasy league this season? Then you need the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Your ultimate source for player news, draft tips and winning strategies. Whether you're a rookie manager or a fantasy vet, we've got the insight to help you crush your opponents. Listen to the NFL Fantasy Football podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Toyota the official automotive partner of the NFL.
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We got midweek major. The biggest stories in sports and pop culture. We got to talk home runs, but I want to give you two of my observations, if you don't mind. As far as Luca and Puka go. Yeah. They're saying they plan on retiring early. They don't want a long ass career. They don't care about breaking records. They made their money and they want to be businessmen and raise their families. And that's great. That is great. As fans, I think we're a little like, awesome, no. Because our work ethic might be a little different. The first time, I want to say the first time I experienced, like, hey, my work ethics different than a. Younger generations is when like 5 o' clock hit and you had in your brain, like, I guess I stay until they tell me to leave.
B
Oh, yes.
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Generation was like, five o'.
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Clock.
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I got my backpack on. I'm ready to go.
B
We had an intern and we're still friends with the guy till this day. Our kid Mike and I remember he was editing all this stuff for Spot and our show. Covino Rich, he's in the middle of editing five o' clock hits. Kid grabs his backpack and he's like, all right, see you guys. We're like, are you in the middle of like editing the clips for us? And he's like, yeah, but it's five o'.
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Clock. Wow.
B
And he's like, yeah, my. My hours, my internship hours are done. And I go, oh, yeah, I guess that's. That's how some look at it.
A
And I had another, you know, example, but it slipped my mind. But another thing that does come to mind is a younger person has this mentality of, yeah, I'll work extra. Are you paying me? Where we just so willingly did overtime or worked that extra day and didn't ask questions.
B
But did that make us dumb?
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It kind of, yeah, in a way. But it does show you the difference in work ethic that we grew up with versus a younger generation. Now we're Starting to see that spill into sports where it's like, it's more about life, less about the job.
C
Yeah. And I wouldn't say dumb rich, because it also gave us job security.
A
Yeah, you. It was like a. We had this belief that it would pay off. And for some people did, some it didn't.
B
I think it paid off in the sense of you overall would be better at your job and you got better by working hard. But there were times early on in my career where I. I remember being like, I'll work on the holiday. And I'd be like, man, the boss is really gonna be impressed. And I'm like. Then I realized later in life, like, the boss is sitting in his Hamptons house and doesn't give a crap that I'm the one working right now. He's not listening. He doesn't care. And then you realize, oh, I'm a fool.
A
So, you know, different work ethics. Puka and Luca both saying, yeah, as soon as they can get out, they're out of the league.
B
You know what? But I don't question their current work ethic. I just, I look at it and then saying like, as from a business perspective, sign a big contract, make all that money, and then get out healthy.
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And they're not wrong. It's just different, that's all.
B
You know, be a dad, be a husband, be a businessman. Why would you not want to do that? If you've made hundreds of millions of dollars, why keep going out in there and getting banged up? It's like you and I were talking about Terrence Bud Crawford. There's an instinct right now to be like, all right, undefeated. He beat Canelo. Walk away. Or is it tough to walk away when you know that the next time you fight there's tens of millions of dollars waiting for you. Is that. How do you say no to that? You can't. Let's say hi to Matt and Cincy, then we'll go to DB for an update. What's up, Matt?
C
What's up, cnr? You guys are great.
B
Oh, thanks, man.
C
Got a question. So with Duke of coming out and saying that.
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What?
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Why would the Rams want to sign him to that long term deal if, you know, say they guaranteed him all this money and then all of a sudden they go 6 and 10 or 5 and 11 and. And then he's promised all that guarantee money and then he just wants to hang cleats up and be done.
B
No, I think you're not getting those long, long MLB type of contracts in football anyway. Right. For a wide receiver. So I think if he says 30 ish if he's still in his 20s, I think, I think it does take.
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The fight away though when you overpay athletes and good for them. Like I said, it's just they earned it. I'm not trying to.
B
The NFL makes billions. Who's going to get the money? Jerry Jones?
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I'm not saying they're not deserving. That's not my point. But how do you have that same fight hunger and desire to fight for your job, to keep your job, to break those records when you're like think from a boxer's perspective. Like you said, the ones that really take it to crazy levels are the ones that are fighting, fighting for their life, you know, not the ones that are sitting pretty. Like it just doesn't work that way.
C
Your boy Puka signed a four year deal.
A
Yeah.
B
And good for them by the way. I wonder if this would change if they were making WNBA money.
A
You'd see a lot more fight. I bet you'd see. You'd see something different.
B
All right, well with that said, let's go to our buddy and yours, Dan by Let's get an update. What's going on my friends?
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4. Four hits combined between the Giants and Diamondbacks in their scoreless affair. That's in the ninth inning right now in Arizona. Bottom of the ninth inning. Diamondback started the day a game and a half back of riches Mets for the final wild card while the Giants are three back. The Red started the day three back year Mets. They topped the Cardinals six to two. So right now two and a half back is Cincinnati today in Pittsburgh.
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Fly ball to left. This is going to do it. Ian Happ is there and the Cubs are in the playoffs. The Cubs are going to be a postseason team here in 2025, doubling up.
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The Pirates today 8 to 4 on the Cubs radio network. They could still win the division. Time is running out though with a week and a half left of the regular season. Cubs right now four and a half back of Milwaukee for first place in the NL Central. 49ers quarterback Brock Purdy limited in practice today because of his toe and shoulder injuries. That was a message from Kyle Shanahan before the Niners worked out saying Purdy has a chance to play against the Cardinals coming up in week three.
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Damn.
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No practice today for Commanders quarterback Jaden Daniels as he deals with a knee injury. Marcus Mariota would start for Washington against Danny's Raiders on Sunday. If Daniels can't go, Dan Quinn said at the earliest Friday Would be the practice day for Jaden Daniels. Got that sprained knee. Marcus Mariota again likely the next man up for Washington. Torod Taylor's going to start a quarterback for the jets this Sunday against the Buccaneers as Jets quarterback Justin Fields has been ruled out. Buccaneers wearing their throwback uniforms, not the full creamsicle, but the white version of it honoring their 50 years in the National Football League. Khalil Max headed to IR for the Chargers, but the linebacker not going to miss the season suffered that elbow injury Monday night in the win against the Raiders. Not believed to be a season ending injury. It was announced today that Patriots wide receiver Stefan Diggs and girlfriend Cardi B are expecting their first child together. And guys, it was Kevin Brown. It was Kevin Brown. That's who it was.
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Thank you. Yes. By the way, move over hot tempered Kevin Brown.
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Move over Taylor and Travis because he, you got, you know, Cardi B and Stefan Diggs. You got Madison Beer and Justin Herbert, you got Josh Allen and Halle Steinfeld. I think the athlete celebrity combo is stronger than ever in the NFL.
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The pizza flavored combo, still the best.
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Still the best combo.
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Still the best. Come on. I'll sleep on that one.
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DB1, one piece of insight. If you're the 49ers and you're the front office, it's a division matchup against the Cardinals. Do you try to push along Purdy or based on how Mac Jones played pretty solid. Do you just play play it safe and go with Mac Jones? If you're a gm, I would play Purdy.
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And the only reason being is this finish line with Kittle was after week five. So because of the short week that they're going to have with the Rams that week, that was kind of the goal. Like Kittle wouldn't play in week five and they probably wouldn't play in week four. That was the reason. But if Purdy is well enough, division game, Cardinals two and oh right now.
B
You could jump out to three and oh, and your team's not 100%. That's fantastic.
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I think, I think our instincts say play it safe long season. But if he is, if he's ready to go and is able to go and you aren't risking further injury, then I say play Purdy.
B
I agree. Thank you Dan Byer for a great update. We got more Cavino and Rich. Now there's a discrepancy. Not over showboating with home runs. It's how teams are celebrating these days. And one of your dudes, Michael K.
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Yeah, the best in the game.
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Has a like the weakest take. And we'll play it next and we'll discuss, we'll talk some baseball. Get into NFL Week 3 right here. Covino and Rich, Fox Sports Radio.
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Hey, this is Matt Jones. And I'm Drew Franklin. And this is NFL Cover Zero. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining and twice a week that is exactly what you're going to get. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different.
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Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Looks like something that should not be sold.
C
Oh, my.
A
So that was my other big Colts takeaway.
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Sold that. Yes.
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Might want to go back to the Colts stadium.
C
Yeah, I might want to go back.
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To the drawing board on that.
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Yeah.
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I thought the shape we had with.
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Pretzels was working pretty well. It's worked for generations.
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We're just here trying to enjoy it. We hope you all will join us throughout the year. And let's go.
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I hope I'm as youthful as Pete Carroll is at his age. He's a young 73.
C
He is a young 73. He is spry.
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I wouldn't fight him.
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I would listen. NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Fr Brooklyn on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. What's up, everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here and I'm Bucky Brooks. On Move the Sticks, we take you inside the game. From scouting reports and player development to team building philosophies, coaching trends and how front offices construct winning rosters. Every week we study the tape, talk to decision makers and show share the insights you won't find anywhere else. It's the kind of conversation that connects the dots. From college football prospects to the NFL stars of tomorrow, we break down the draft, analyze matchups, and evaluate how teams put it all together on game day. Plus, we dig into coaching strategies, roster construction, and the trends that shape the league year after year. Whether you're a die hard fan or just love understanding the game on a deeper level, we give you the full picture. If you want insight that goes beyond the box score, this podcast is for you. Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Six podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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I'm Dan, he's Ty.
C
Hello.
B
And we're the solid verbal college football podcast.
C
College football season is here and you know what that means.
B
Your team is going to break your heart three times, probably before Halloween.
C
Uh huh. But fear not, the solid Verbal will be right there with you through every soul crushing loss and impossible comeback.
B
Join us all season long, all year long, as we ride the rollercoaster of this ridiculous sport.
C
Whether you're a die hard fan or a casual observer, we'll help you make sense of all the chaos and of course, celebrate the madness. Tune in for previews, recaps, bits you won't hear anywhere else, and all the emotional support you need as a college football fan.
B
We don't just love college football, Ty, we live it.
C
Listen to the Solid Verbal college football podcasts on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
B
I had this like overwhelming sensation that.
C
I had to call a right and.
B
I just hit call said, you know, hey, I'm Jacob Schick, I'm the CEO.
C
Of One Tribe foundation and I just wanted to go on and let her.
B
Know there's a lot of people battling.
C
Some of the very same things you're.
B
Battling and there is help out there. The Good Stuff Podcast Season two takes a deep look into One Tribe Foundation, a nonprofit fighting suicide in the veteran community. September is National Suicide Prevention Month, so join hosts Jacob and Ashley Schick as they bring you to the front line of One Tribe's mission.
A
I was married to a combat army.
C
Veteran and he actually took his own life to suicide.
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One Tribe saved my life twice.
C
There's a lot of love that flows through this place and it's sincere now.
B
It's a personal mission.
A
Don't have to go to any more funerals.
B
You know, I got blown up on a react mission. I ended up having amputation below the knee of my right leg and a traumatic brain injury because I landed on my head.
C
Welcome to season two of the Good Stuff.
B
Listen to the Good Stuff podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Marcus Grant.
C
And I'm Michael F. Florio and together we host the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Ready to dominate your fantasy league this season? Then you need the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Your ultimate source for player news, draft tips and winning strategies. Whether you're a rookie manager or a fantasy vet, we've got the insight to help you crush your opponents. Listen to the NFL Fantasy Football podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Toyota the official automotive partner of the NFL.
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So work ethic has changed. We've seen that now we're seeing it in sports a little bit. Cavino and Rich live from the Fox sports radio studio. And it's time for our tire rack play of the day wreck. Shohei Ohtani. Shohei Ohtani was in the middle of a no hitter until that jabroni Dave Roberts pulled him for the Dodgers bullpen blew yet another lead. Ohtani created a new 5050 club.
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The 1 oh pitch. Ohtani launches high in the air, deep.
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Right field 50 emphatically leaves the yard on a night he started the game.
B
And through five no hit innings. He then comes up to the plate in the 8th and launches home run.
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Number 50 on the season. 50 home runs, 50 stolen bases, 50 strikeouts. That's courtesy of AM570 Dodgers audio network. And that's our tire rack play of the day.
B
Well, not 50 stone bases this year.
A
Well, he's going for it, right? It's a different 50.
B
He's not even like close.
A
I know, but he's 50.
B
52 stone bases. But no, a different their tire rack play of the game. For over 40 years, Tire Rack's been helping customers find the right tires for how, what and where they drive ship fast and free back by free road hazard protection, convenient installation options like mobile tire installation tire act.com the way tire buying should be. Danny, you hit us up last night and I, I was like Danny's the one that wrote this Jabroni. Dave Roberts is it the third time the Dodgers had a no hitter going and Dave Roberts is, you know, making a move that end up not being.
C
The right one in just a matter of a couple of weeks. That is the third blown no hitter for the Dodgers in their.
B
That is wild. And by the way, speaking of baseball, I've been keeping an eye like we all have on that Diamondbacks Giants game because that has wild card chase implications. D backs at home had the bases loaded, one out, bottom of the 9th,00 strikeout and a dribbler back to the pitcher. They're going to extras in Arizona. So extra innings. 00 fought through eight innings, one hit.
A
Really? I thought it was more of a little number.
B
It was a little number to the pitcher and number Verlander who seemed to have found his groove towards the second half of the year. He's 3 and 10 on the year but he threw seven innings of hitless baseball. Of a runless baseball. You give up a couple hits but Verlander showing up when they needed him, nice. Which is pretty cool.
A
Speaking of baseball, this is kind of funny. It's funny to me first of all, I gotta say props to Michael K. I've been a fan since he was the young guy in the broadcast booth.
B
My dad's a big fan. I told you. My dad listens to us and he somehow feels like Michael K's his friend.
A
Yeah, I used to listen to Michael K on the radio calling the game.
B
Yeah.
A
You know, he still has his own radio show, but calling the game. And then he started yes and center stage. And he was the voice of the Yankees. He was that young dude. And now, you know, blink. And he's been doing it for 120 years now.
C
Now.
A
And I bring that up because is this old guy energy or is he right on here? Baseball, everything we talk about, it is a kid's game.
B
Well, let's be real about that. I think you were throwing a little old guy energy moments ago. When you keep saying work ethic when it's not work ethic, it's. It's. Some of these young players want to get out early when they're healthy, they've made their money. I don't think you and I always argue off the air.
A
I said they're not wrong. I just don't.
B
It's our work ethic.
A
It's. It is.
B
It's not. You and I are.
A
It is. It is because I take things from a personal standpoint, too. You think the young people we work with in this industry have the same work ethic as you know, but I don't even treat the studio the same.
B
I think you and I argue a lot of times about, I'm a big work smarter, not harder guy, and that's called cutting corners.
A
And the results show. You think they don't, but they do. That's called. It's called a cheap effort. And it does show.
B
Like the old buffoon that's like, I just keep my money under the mattress. And I'm like, why don't you invest it in something?
A
I don't trust the banks. Well, guess what, if I'm so wrong, you know, we're talking about professional athletes here, but most young people don't have anything. They don't have any money. So if anyone should be working hard, it should be them.
B
I wouldn't question Pukin the coup. His work ethic. I think he's smart. So, like, when you say, ah, they don't got the same work ethic, the.
A
Game doesn't seem to mean as much. They want to live more. And it's a kids game, so she'd be having fun. But speaking of old Guy energy. I sort of do agree with Michael K here. And this has to do with home run celebrations and the props that they use, not bat flips, none of that, none of the showboating.
B
The dugout props in the dugout.
A
Is it hokey or awesome? Take a listen to Michael K. I.
C
Don'T know why they don't do it, but let me ask you a question.
B
Don't you think that's hokey?
A
Sure.
C
Well, that's why I wonder why the.
B
Yankees don't do it because I know, why should they do something hokey? I mean, you think the Mariners are.
C
Going up and down the dugout with that trident is cool? You think the Red Sox putting on the Wally the Green Monster hat or head? That, that's, that's, that's, that's cool. I don't think it's cool. The Yankees, they, they all jump up and down. The guy high fives everybody on each side as he goes to the end of the dugout out. That's their celebration. But the prop thing, hey, maybe they end up doing it one day. But I'm, I'm looking at it and going, I think that's weak.
A
And I agree with him. Who? Michael K. Wally the Greenhead monster. Michael K. What are we, 12 years old?
B
Michael K. Who? Again, I said I'm a fan of what he does. My dad likes him. Which is proof, you know, a lot of times when some, when someone here's.
A
A hot take, I think Michael K. Is better than Gary Cohen. Just saying, oh, you're the one.
B
You're the one guy in the industry that's cool.
A
I'm the guy speaking truth.
B
You're the one dentist that doesn't recommend something.
A
I'm telling you the truth. That's my opinion.
B
9 out of 10 dentist.
A
By the way, it's a conversation for another day because I think everybody has a preference to their own broadcaster for their team.
B
Yeah, of course. Nine out of ten dentists recommend. Colgate. Kavino's the one that doesn't.
A
Yeah, I recommend Michael K over Gary Cohen.
B
You're the one guy. Anyway, long story short is that Michael K. Is a 60, 70 year old man. He's not the gauge of cool. So when he's like, that's weak. That's not cool. I'm thinking you're right. The 25 year old home run hitters in the Mariners dugout.
A
Yeah. But putting on a goofy helmet or a trident, that's cool.
B
I think it is. I think it is very, very cool. I think.
A
Which One is celebrating and doing a cool dance and high five and I.
B
Think it's the coolest. In fact, we're going to argue about this next, clearly. Covino and Michael K. Get a room. We got more CNR next right here on Fox Sports Radio Video.
C
Hey, this is Matt Jones. And I'm Drew Franklin. And this is NFL Cover Zero. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different.
A
Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that?
C
Oh, my. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. And twice a week, that is exactly what you're going to get. Listen NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast cast.
B
I'm Dan. He's Ty.
C
Hello.
B
And we're the solid verbal college football podcast.
C
Tune in for previews, recaps, bits you won't hear anywhere else, and all the emotional support you need as a college football fan.
B
Join us all season long as we ride the roller coaster of this ridiculous sport.
C
Listen to the solid verbal college football podcasts on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
B
We don't just love college football, Ty.
A
We live it.
C
Hey, everybody. Daniel Jeremiah here and I'm Bucky Brooks on Move to six. We take you inside the game, from breaking down college prospects and NFL rookies to evaluating team building philosophies, coaching trends, and how front offices construct winning rosters. We study the tape, talk to decision makers and give you a perspective you won't find anywhere else. It's everything you need to understand the why behind what happens on Sundays. Don't miss it. Listen to the Move the Sticks podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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I'm Marcus Grant.
C
And I'm Michael F. Florio, and together we host the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Ready to dominate your fantasy league this season? Then you need the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Your ultimate source for player news, draft tips and winning strategies. Whether you're a rookie manager or a fantasy vet, we've got the insight to help you crush your opponents. Listen to the NFL Fantasy Football podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL.
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Visit toyota.com NFL now to learn more.
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Betrayal Weekly is back for season two with brand new stor.
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The detective comes driving up fast and just like screeches right in the parking lot.
B
I swear I'm not crazy, but I.
C
Think he poisoned me.
B
I feel trapped.
A
My breathing changes.
C
I realize, wow. Like, he is not a mentor. He's pretty much a monster. But these aren't just stories of destruction.
B
They're stories of survival. I'm going to tell my story, and I'm going to hold my head up.
C
Listen to Betrayal weekly on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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This is an I heart podcast.
This episode dives into shifting generational perspectives on career longevity, motivation, and work ethic—especially through the lens of sports. Covino & Rich examine the attitudes of emerging superstar athletes Luka Doncic and Puka Nacua, both of whom have expressed a desire to retire early and focus on life beyond their playing days. The show reflects (often with humor) on changing American work values, the impact of massive sports contracts, and debates whether we're witnessing the end of playing "for the love of the game." The episode also touches on fun baseball trends, including home run celebrations, and local broadcaster rivalries.
Covino & Rich use Luka Doncic’s and Puka Nacua’s comments to launch an entertaining, layered discussion of generational change in work ethic and motivation—both in sports and society. The conversation is rich with anecdotes, analogies, and playful debate. As modern sports contracts make early retirement feasible, the hosts (and their audience) confront what’s gained and lost when players no longer need to play for legacy or love. Whether reminiscing on grandpa’s stubbornness or laughing about dugout antics, Covino & Rich deliver a mix of insight, nostalgia, and irreverence.
“They got it right. The bottom line is they got it right. It just, it hurts as fans to see. Because you want to see them play.” — Covino, [23:09]
For more, find the full show on Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts.