Covino & Rich - Sports Misery Meter

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Patrick Show – Episode: Covino & Rich - Sports Misery Meter
Release Date: August 15, 2025
Host: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network
Description: In this engaging episode of The Dan Patrick Show, hosts Covino and Rich delve into the concept of the "Sports Misery Meter," exploring how fans' favorite teams impact their personal happiness and mood. The episode blends sports analysis, personal anecdotes, listener interactions, and the latest NFL news, all delivered with Covino and Rich’s trademark humor and insight.

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1. Introduction to the Episode

The episode kicks off with promotional segments for various podcasts and shows, introducing listeners to upcoming content. Covino and Rich briefly discuss ongoing shows and upcoming releases, setting the stage for the main topics of the day.

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2. Sports Misery Meter Segment

a. Introduction of Mike Lozito [14:04]

Covino and Rich introduce Mike Lozito, a longtime friend and a numbers enthusiast who originally conceptualized the "Sports Misery Meter." Mike analyzes fans' misery levels based on the performance of their favorite teams.

b. Explanation of the Misery Meter [14:38]

Danny G explains ESPN's official "Misery Meter" algorithm, which quantifies how miserable a fan can feel based on the current performance of their teams. Each team contributes to a fan's overall misery score out of 100, where 100 signifies maximum misery.

c. Rankings of Covino, Rich, Danny G, and Mike [15:14]

• Rich: Scores an impressive 89, rooted in support for consistently underperforming teams like the Mets, Islanders, Jets, and Knicks.
• Danny G: Scores a 48, supporting relatively successful teams such as the Raiders, Lakers, and Dodgers.
• Covino: Achieves a 51, balancing between successful teams like the Lakers and Dodgers and less consistent performances from teams like the Raiders.

Mike Lozito also participates, discussing his own misery rating based on the teams he supports, illustrating the varying degrees of fan frustration.

d. Discussion on the Impact of Team Performance [16:36]

The hosts discuss how supporting losing teams can negatively affect a fan's mood and self-perception. They emphasize the importance of not letting team performance define personal happiness, citing their experiences and observations.

Notable Quote:
Covino at [21:08]: "They have a whole equation. So if you want to plug in your teams just for fun, know that there is an app."

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3. Personal Stories and Memories

a. School Memories and Playground Games [05:14 - 11:16]

Covino and Danny G reminisce about their childhood school days, recalling games like Nerf football, kickball, and "asses up." They share humorous and nostalgic stories about gym class antics, the smells of old gym equipment, and the limited access to water fountains.

Notable Quote:
Danny G at [10:21]: "He never thought he was going to get caught and I just looked at my computer screen. I was just like, ah, gotcha."

b. Gym Class Challenges [08:19 - 11:16]

The conversation shifts to the challenging aspects of gym class, including the notorious smells, the strict gym teachers, and the limited water access. Covino shares memories of playing Nerf football until an injury ended the game for good.

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4. Listener Engagement: Worst Neighbors and Roommates

a. Gary B. from Van Nuys [49:57 - 53:03]

Covino introduces a listener story about "Gary B.," a notorious neighbor in Van Nuys, California, known for incessant late-night noise from lawn mowing and car repairs. The hosts discuss the duality of such situations, highlighting both the frustration and the untold stories behind Gary's behavior.

Notable Quote:
Danny G at [52:07]: "They went to the news, reacted because it made the news. And the police showed up and the LAPD are telling like Fox 11 and all the local news outlets that they can't really make a citation against Gary because the officers need to, to hear the noise and observe the noise for themselves."

b. Inviting Listener Stories [52:43 - 53:03]

Covino and Danny G invite listeners to share their worst neighbor and roommate stories, encouraging audience participation and engagement with relatable content.

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5. NFL News and Updates

a. Legal Updates on Players [41:01 - 43:28]

The hosts discuss recent legal developments involving NFL players:

• Quinshon Judkins: The Florida State Attorney’s office declined to file charges for a misdemeanor battery accusation.
• Isaiah Bond: A former Texas receiver accused of sexual assault had charges dismissed and is now signing with the Cleveland Browns.

b. Justin Herbert Starts as QB for Chargers [41:01 - 43:28]

Jim Harbaugh announces that Justin Herbert will start as quarterback for the Chargers in an upcoming preseason game against the Rams. This marks Herbert’s first career preseason appearance.

c. Michael Penix Jr. Typographical Error [42:26 - 43:06]

A humorous segment about Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Penix Jr. The controversy arises not from his statements but from a typographical error on the broadcast screen, replacing his "X" with an "S," inadvertently changing his name on-air.

Notable Quote:
Danny G at [42:55]: "My favorite quarterback, Michael Penis Jr. That's him."

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6. Thematic Discussion: Coping with Sports Fan Frustrations

a. Balancing Emotions with Team Performance [25:28 - 31:17]

Covino shares an anecdote about a past radio show incident where he refused to deliver a sports report after a Raiders loss, leading to a stern conversation with his station's general manager. The hosts emphasize the importance of not letting team performance dictate personal happiness.

Notable Quote:
Covino at [30:14]: "Does Al Davis pay your bills? And I said, no. And he's like, so don't let it affect your personality."

b. Athletes Embracing New Cities [35:05 - 41:01]

The conversation shifts to how athletes like Jalen Ramsey adapt to new cities and fan bases, comparing the strategies of other players like Bryce Harper and Russell Wilson. They discuss the balance between staying true to oneself while embracing a new environment to win over fans.

Notable Quote:
Danny G at [35:44]: "Aaron Rodgers, who we love to make fun of... he did all the right things leading up to it."

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7. Promotion and Outro

Covino and Rich promote their new YouTube channel (Covino and Rich Show at YouTube.com/inoenrichfsr) and encourage listeners to subscribe and engage with their content. They also highlight their upcoming segments, including discussions on NFL topics like Jalen Ramsey and old-school throwback segments.

Notable Quote:
Covino at [48:18]: "Thank you guys for watching us on YouTube, the new channel YouTube.com/inoenrichFSR and of course, checking out our podcast."

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8. Additional Highlights

• Music Segment [28:08 - 29:58]: Covino and Danny G critique the song “Frustrated, Incorporated” by Soul Asylum, tying it back to the episode’s theme of sports-related misery.

• Comedy and Humor: Throughout the episode, Covino and Rich infuse humor into their discussions, making the topics relatable and entertaining.

• Engagement with John Lithgow [25:02 - 26:17]: Repeated promotional segments for John Lithgow’s fiction podcast about Buzz Aldrin, adding a creative twist to the episode.

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Conclusion

In this episode, Covino and Rich effectively blend sports analysis with personal anecdotes and humor to explore how team performance impacts fans' emotions. Through the "Sports Misery Meter" segment, they provide a quantified perspective on fan frustration while offering broader insights into maintaining personal happiness regardless of sports outcomes. Listener interactions and NFL news keep the content dynamic and engaging, making it a valuable listen for both avid sports fans and casual listeners alike.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Covino [21:08]: "They have a whole equation. So if you want to plug in your teams just for fun, know that there is an app."

• Covino [30:14]: "Does Al Davis pay your bills? And I said, no. And he's like, so don't let it affect your personality."

• Danny G [42:55]: "My favorite quarterback, Michael Penis Jr. That's him."

• Covino [48:18]: "Thank you guys for watching us on YouTube, the new channel YouTube.com/inoenrichFSR and of course, checking out our podcast."

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Listening Information:
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Transcript

[Podcast Announcer]

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[Covino]

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[Rich]

I'm Jake Hofer and this is back 40, a limited series show on Wire to Hunt, part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network. Each episode I'll be asking eight whitetail hunting pros a focused, thought provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access?

[Covino]

Should you?

[Danny G]

That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand.

[Rich]

Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[John Lithgow]

Hello, I'm John Lithgow.

[Rich]

We choose to go to the moon.

[John Lithgow]

I want to tell you about my new fiction podcast.

[Covino]

That's One Small Step for Man about.

[John Lithgow]

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[Danny G]

You're a great pilot, Buzz.

[John Lithgow]

That's the story you think you know. This is the story you don't. Buzz starring me, John lithgow on the iHeartRadio app podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Rich]

Let's start with a quick puzzle.

[Podcast Announcer]

The answer is Ken Jennings appearance on.

[Rich]

The puzzler with A.J.

[Covino]

Jacobs.

[Rich]

The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land Jeopardy Truthers believe in?

[John Lithgow]

I guess they would be conspiracy theorists.

[Danny G]

That's right. They gave you the answers and you still blew it.

[Rich]

The Puzzler listen on the iHeartra Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Covino]

Get fired up, y'. All.

[Podcast Announcer]

Season 2 of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just welcomed one of my favorite people, an incomparable soccer icon Megan Rapinoe to the show and we had a blast. Take a listen. Sue and I were like riding the lime bikes the other day and we're.

[Danny G]

Like, wee people ride bikes because it's fun.

[Podcast Announcer]

We got more incredible guests like Megan in store, plus news of the day and more. So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports Network.

[Covino]

Hey, thanks for listening to the Covino Enrich podcast.

[Danny G]

Be sure to catch us live every.

[Covino]

Weekday from 5 to 7 Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.

[Danny G]

Find your local station for Kavito and [e-mail] or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app. Searching FSR yo, let's go, buddies. Where we going? I don't know, but we're going somewhere.

[Covino]

What's going. I know where we're going. Going back to school. It's back to school Thursday out here in Los Angeles anyway. But I'm actually still in Lake Tahoe. But my pain in the ass. I mean, my kids started school today, so the rest of the world, back to school. To prove to dad I'm not a fool.

[Rich]

Dad that I'm not a fool.

[Covino]

The rest of the Fox Sports Radio nation, enjoy summer while you can. I mean, routine has changed for the west side.

[Danny G]

I got my backpack on, my shoes tied tight.

[Covino]

Back to school.

[Danny G]

I hope I don't get in a fight Billy Madison style. My kid got Miss Lippy. She was really excited.

[Covino]

Oh, I'm happy to hear that.

[Danny G]

Yeah.

[Covino]

Broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studio. Excited for a new school year, but excited to announce a brand new YouTube channel. Our daily show, Covino and Rich. You could stream it live, watch it live on our new channel. Sign up now YouTube.cominoenrich fsr. If you're on YouTube already, just search covinoenrich fsr but follow and enjoy. Send it to some friends, get involved and thank you for being here today. Back at our normal time the past three days. If you missed our show, catch it on the podcast. We were in for the Dan Patrick show and we'll be in again tomorrow. But good to be here. Hope you're having a nice week. It's Thursday, which means old school when 50 hits and we got lots of NFL, lots of baseball, lots of nonsense to talk about and Rich, hold on.

[Danny G]

Someone just passed me a Note in class. P.S. i'm horny.

[Covino]

P.S. i'm Horny.

[Danny G]

Wow, another Billy Madison reference. Isaac, was that you? Isaac Lo and Crown on the updates. Hey, Isaac.

[Rich]

What they don't know is I pass you guys that note every day.

[Danny G]

I know how I know you're here. What is this? Surprise.

[Covino]

So we got the very sexy Isaac Loewenkron. We got Iowa Sam on the ones and twos. Danny G. Super producing at 87799 on Fox before we talk about Jalen Ramsey and Denzel Washington and I know you have a misery rating. You want to get to rich real quick, right? Quick. Just a random question.

[Danny G]

Yeah.

[Covino]

It is the first day of school for kids in Los Angeles. When you were a pumpkin pie haircut, A little kid on his first day of school with his little backpack and his brand new sneakers, all excited for the new year. What was your favorite sporting game to play in the playground or in gym class when you were rocking your penny on a throwback Thursday? Because for me, honestly, it was the Nerf football. Two hand touch. Until one little nose picking kid broke his finger in grade school and we weren't allowed to play ever again.

[Danny G]

Oh, I was going to say I'm. I'm a traditionalist. Covino. I feel like some old school kickball. A little bouncy. A little bouncy.

[Covino]

But would you play like before school or in gym class or both recess and gym class? Yeah. I mean kickball.

[Danny G]

Yeah.

[Covino]

Do you want it straight or bouncy?

[Danny G]

I want a little, just a little bouncy so I get some air. You know what's funny, man?

[Covino]

I like my women like, I like my kickballs.

[Danny G]

Little bouncy bounce.

[Covino]

I haven't changed much, but when I was a kid, man, and we'd be waiting to go into school, nice kickballs, you know, when you would wait there, like to go into class, we would be allowed to play Nerf football. Nerfs were big in the 80s, man. They were blowing up. And then one kid got hurt and that fun ended. So that was my fun. Aside from kickball. You know what? Gym volleyball was always a lot of fun.

[Danny G]

Can I, can I give you another game? I feel like I logged many hours playing and could also be considered an adult game nowadays. Asses up. You guys ever play asses up?

[Covino]

We called it butts up.

[Rich]

Different meaning.

[Danny G]

Different meaning as an adult. But as a kid, I would say, I'm in Iowa. Did they play asses up? I don't. I don't know that one. In some parts of town, they call.

[Covino]

It just to show you we haven't changed much. Still love asses up and we still like it bouncy.

[Danny G]

That's true, but no asses up, little bouncy. Some called it suicide. Where you throw either a tennis ball or a blue handball.

[Covino]

Yeah, the heavy blue handball against racquetball.

[Danny G]

Against the concrete wall outside the school. Now you'd field it if you bobbled it. You then had a dart to the wall and you had to touch the Wall before someone pegged you with the ball or some played hit the wall. Then if you spelled out ass, you had to get up there like a criminal with your hands against the wall. And every one of your buddies had one shot to throw the ball as hard as they can, right? Try to hit you right in the back.

[Covino]

Like they allowed kids to play stuff like that before school started? Not anymore. And can I throw one more honorable mention out there? This was more of a gym class thing for us. I grew up in Union, New Jersey, so our town revolved around baseball, football, things like that. We didn't have a lacrosse team. We weren't that type of town. We weren't like a rich town in that sense. So if we ever played lacrosse, it was in gym class with the pennies and the plastic equipment and everything. And I'll tell you, it was a lot of fun playing that in gym. I was all county gym class. I don't know if people know that, but I took it very serious. And I'd go back to history, history class with. With a sweaty ass. That's just how it was.

[Danny G]

I always thought it was funny. Like, speaking of first day of school gym class, two things stood out. How smelly that room. I don't know if your. Your gym had the same thing. It was like a room where they kept the volleyballs, the kickballs, old pennies. It smelled like a hobo's ass. It was. Honestly, I used to look around like, is there a hobo sleeping there?

[Covino]

There's actually a candle named after that. It's called rancid hobo ass.

[Danny G]

But there was hobo. There was that room in.

[Covino]

Can you please say drifter?

[Danny G]

I'm sorry? Drifter hobos. It was like a drift. It smelled like a booty. And you put on these pennies. And then I thought the other crazy thing.

[Covino]

Those pennies held sense from the early 60s, man. They were just. They were never washed.

[Danny G]

Let me give you two more memories. On a throwback Thursday, then we're going to get into whether or not you're allowed to be miserable as a sports fan. I'll explain.

[Covino]

Go ahead.

[Danny G]

Two more memories. You'd play as a kid for hours, gym class, recess, and your teacher would let you have, like, two seconds of the water fountain. Like, one, two, next one. Now every little kid's got their water bot, and they're, you know, they're hydrated all day. When we were kids, we were at a water fountain like. Like a dog, like, trying to get one little lick of the fountain and the Gym teacher would yell at you.

[Covino]

Is that where you were introduced to ultimate Frisbee, too? Before, like, a bunch of nerds in the early 2000s started playing in leagues and things like that? Is that the first time you played it in gym class? Because that was fun, too.

[Danny G]

Never in gym class. That was a college quad thing. I remember people on the quad in college, like, ultimate Frisbee.

[Covino]

So on this day, I just want to say I used to love playing the playgr before school. Two hand touch nerf football as an 80s kid. That was so much fun, dude. And I wish all the kiddies and all the kiddos throughout the nation a great, great school year. Especially my kid. She's a sophomore now, and I just hope she has a good one, because if she doesn't, I got to deal with it.

[Danny G]

So the memories I wanted to bring up, like you said, pennies. That room in everyone's gym that smell like hobo's ass.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

The limited water you were allowed. Meanwhile, now, like I said, every kid goes to school with, like, multiple water bottles. H. And the third thought you sort of touched on it when you were in junior high or high school. And not to sound gross, but you were going through, like, those early stinky stages of puberty where not every kid wore deodorant yet. And that's when you would sweat huevos and then just go right back to social studies class. They stink.

[Covino]

Go back to class all sweaty and stinky.

[Danny G]

You'd go run a mile around the track, you'd stink, and then you'd be like, all right, now go to biology. Like, what?

[Covino]

Yeah. If you had any sense of athleticism or pride, you took some of the game serious because it was fun.

[Danny G]

And the funny. The funny part about that, I will admit, because I was guilty like everyone else of this. How many times did you take those stinky gym clothes, you would put them in a supermarket plastic bag, put in your locker, and wear them again?

[Covino]

Yeah. Smell like Fritos. Yeah, I smell that Fritos. Smell it.

[Danny G]

So Dipsy Doodles, happy first day of school. Hopefully it had a great night. Hopefully it didn't have a New York Mets winning six. Nothing yet. Finding a way to lose type of night. I don't know what team in baseball should be the most discouraged now. The lake. The Dodgers, who are letting first place slip away. The Mets, who stink. Your Yankees, who are now, like, almost on the outside looking in.

[Covino]

There's every time your Mets lose, the Yankees lose. They're horrible.

[Danny G]

I know. So I bring this up because my Buddy Mike, who I went to, he remembers these days. A guy I went to elementary school, high school, and college with.

[Covino]

Who?

[Danny G]

My buddy Mike Lozito.

[Covino]

Never heard of him.

[Danny G]

Lives in upstate New York.

[Covino]

Date you went to every stage of life together.

[Danny G]

Do you have a buddy like that?

[Covino]

No.

[Danny G]

We played Little League together, and we also went out to bars in college together. Lifetime friend. He coaches soccer, baseball for his kids. Lives in upstate New York. I bring him up because he's like a numbers guy. He's one of those guys where he'd be like, hey, dude, I punched some numbers in, in the percentage. Like, he's a sports numbers nerdy guy. And my buddy Mike used to try to do an algorithm. Like, what person do you know has the worst winning percentage based on their teams? That was like his thing. Like, yo, if I root, you know, if you root for, you know, the Marlins, the Miami Heat, this. If you add up all your teams, like, who's got the worst luck? Like, who's. Who's really the saddest fan? And my buddy Mike. Is he on the line? Did he call up?

[Covino]

Yeah, he's on the line.

[Danny G]

What's up, Mike?

[Rich]

There's no doubt in the world.

[Danny G]

It's me, Mike. Welcome to the show.

[Covino]

Hey, buddy Mike.

[Danny G]

What? Give everyone. Give everyone your teams because you used to take pride in being the saddest fan. Give everyone your major teams.

[Rich]

I take pride in being the biggest loser. So we start off with the Mets, fair, miserable. Then we have the Islanders.

[Danny G]

Islanders, fair. Yep.

[Rich]

Then we go to the Jets.

[Danny G]

Jets.

[Covino]

Wait, when you say Islanders, do you mean Haku and Tama? Are you talking?

[Danny G]

Not the wrestlers?

[Covino]

Because they were pretty good.

[Danny G]

And then as far as. So you did hockey. Oh, basketball, Mike. Add that. Basketball. Yeah.

[Rich]

You figure, well, you're smart enough to be a Knicks fan, right? Nope.

[Danny G]

So our buddy Mike is Mets. Jets, Nets, Islanders.

[Covino]

Well, I could see why he was inspired to figure out if he was the biggest loser based on his choices, because every team he roots for is terrible. So I could see the train of thought, like, what are the chances that I could be rooting for the worst teams in all sports?

[Danny G]

So when people bitch and complain, like, oh, my team stink, and I'm. I'm bummed. I'm a mad fan. Mike used to do this meth for us, and yesterday he goes, yo, what I've been doing for years. ESPN has now put together what they're calling the misery rating. You plug in your teams and they give you a rating on how miserable you're allowed to be, which is out of 100. Out of 100. So a hundred you have 100 would be the most miserable fan. And Mike, what is your score? So with those four, you guys won't.

[Rich]

Be surprised to know that I am 89 on the misery rating.

[Danny G]

89.

[Rich]

89.

[Covino]

Is, is Mike allowed to send this to his wife to at least justify his moods?

[Danny G]

Yes, I think you could.

[Rich]

I think you wouldn't give me the time. There'd be too many eye rolls. I wouldn't get, I wouldn't get any sympathy there.

[Covino]

But it does explain a lot, right? It's like, yo, man, how could I really be that happy when I'm rooting for a bunch of losing teams like that? Like, I'm at an 89. Give me a break.

[Danny G]

So I, I, I had Mike. I said, mike, you have it open. Do you mind if I throw you the crew here at Fox Sports Radio? And Mike was kind enough to run the numbers, and I did everyone in the room. I didn't do you, Sam, because I don't, I don't think it registered anything, Iowa, because I don't think, I don't think that's in the equation. But Danny J, I want to start with you. Now, remember, 100 is the most miserable fan. Danny G, as you know, is a guy that roots for the Raiders, the Lakers, and the Dodgers. Danny, not too shabby. You're a 48.

[Covino]

Oh, okay, 48.

[Danny G]

So you, you, you're like, you're.

[Covino]

The Raiders are bringing that percentage up for sure.

[Danny G]

Oh, yeah. Because the Lakers and Dodgers have given.

[Covino]

Three championships in the last five years between the Lakers and Dodgers right now.

[Danny G]

Kavino.

[Covino]

Thank you. Lakers and Dodgers.

[Danny G]

By the way, you're allowed to be a little more miserable. You're allowed to be a little more miserable than Danny, because I popped in for you Yankees. And since you've been in la, you've been a Lakers fan. You claim them enough.

[Covino]

Yeah, for sure. If there's any team in the NBA or any team that I've adopted since being in Los Angeles, it's the Lakers, for sure.

[Danny G]

So you're at a 51.

[Covino]

Okay, that's not bad. But you only put in two teams, right?

[Danny G]

Yeah, you can put in as many as you think, you know, necessary for you. Okay, now for me, Mets, 49ers, I'm at a 78.

[Covino]

Wow. So it's most of that, the Mets.

[Danny G]

Most of it's the Mets, but the 49ers, that getting close, but never winning. There's misery in that, in expectation. So they have a Whole equation. So if you want to plug in your teams just for fun, know that there is a. There's an app. Now, you know how I love to play with that playoff simulator, Kavino.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

Now the misery simulator.

[Covino]

Well, here's the two takeaways I got. We got to give our boy who's been talking about this for years on the Kavino Nordic Show, Mike Lizzito, the proper credit. He invented this stat before ESPN made a whole little algorithm. We give you credit, Mike, so you get credit here on the Covino and Rich Show, Mike Lozito. Everybody has been trying to calculate his own misery for years. And then it makes me wonder, Rich, is there. Is there a combination of losing teams that would equal out to 100? Like, what would equal exactly? Like, what would be the ultimate losing combination?

[Danny G]

Well, so can I, Danny, just.

[Rich]

Just for reference, how bad The Raiders.

[Danny G]

Are really bringing you down. You're a zero without them.

[Covino]

Wow.

[Danny G]

Wow. So if you take the Raiders out and leave Danny with the Lakers and Dodgers, he's like, no ability to be miserable.

[Covino]

But if you factor the. The. If you put in the fact that he works for Ben Maller, too, it probably goes up even higher.

[Danny G]

Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. The Raiders.

[Rich]

If you just look at the Raiders and nothing else, it's a 96.

[Covino]

Well, Pete Carroll is going to turn around. So come on, Pete.

[Rich]

Sitting here while you guys are on, while you guys are talking about this, trying to find a reasonable list of teams, right?

[Danny G]

So you look at Chicago, you know.

[Rich]

You get the White Sox, Bulls, Blackhawks.

[Danny G]

And what am I missing? Bears.

[Rich]

Bears.

[Danny G]

Come bears, right?

[Covino]

You're 72.

[Danny G]

Still not. Still not as bad as you. You know who's. You know who's right there up with you? I put in our boss, Scott, because I know he's always bummed about. He's. He's Vikings, Twins, T. Wolves. He's at an 89.

[Covino]

Yeah, it's pretty bad. You know, it makes you respect the fact that he's a very positive guy even more.

[Danny G]

So I guess the lesson here is that there's an equation you can now put your teams into. So one of your friends is like, yo, my team stinks. You could actually mathematically prove who has the ability to be more miserable. So if your buddy is rooting for teams like the Mets. And these are pro teams, though, right? These are pro teams.

[Covino]

Like, Iowa has been winning, like, a.

[Danny G]

Lot of their games for the last 45 years, like, they're not at bad. They're just winning A national championship in football is really hard. It's like you're facing off against, like, 100 other teams. Yeah. And you root for Kaitlin Cole. I was saying you got the. Well, like, But I grew up, like, rooting for the Phillies. They won.

[Covino]

They won a World Series in 2008.

[Danny G]

Like, you know, I like the Dodgers. They won a couple World Series. You know, I don't have a pro basketball team.

[Covino]

I like the Packers.

[Danny G]

You know, who has the least powers? Packers won a Super bowl like, 14 years ago. You know, who has the most.

[Covino]

Hey, Rich, what if you factor in I have a pain in the ass teenage daughter and, And. And child support and stuff like that.

[Danny G]

Hold on, let me put this in. Ex pain in the ass, ex wife, teenage daughter. Oh, you've. You've just jumped up 25 points.

[Covino]

Oh, yeah. I knew the misery meter would go up if I included that.

[Danny G]

Throw one more in and then we'll get into other stuff on the show. But I just thought it was interesting that something we've all probably speculated and imagined, like who has the right to be the most miserable fan? You know, Mike. Who runs this place?

[Covino]

Who, Mike runs?

[Danny G]

Who runs this place?

[Covino]

Different.

[Danny G]

Mike has no ability at all. No ability at all to be upset. Mike. Would you believe Mike might think the Panthers are bringing him down, but Big Mike is a Lakers fan. Dodgers, LA Kings and Panthers. And would you believe the app says you should be elated? 18.

[Covino]

Wow. Yeah, because the lower the percentage, the greater choices you've made as a fan. That's pretty good. I like the. The misery meter, I believe they're calling it on espn. And you can see if your friends and colleagues really do have reasons to be annoyed and frustrated.

[Danny G]

So essentially, yeah, if you're just killing time incorporated, if you're just killing time around the office and you are honestly just counting down the hour until you have to go home, pop in all your teams, pop in your friends teams, and really see who has the right to be more miserable. And by the way, Mike, good talking to you, buddy. Thanks, man.

[Covino]

Thanks, Mike. Love you guys.

[Rich]

See if you could beat me. I'm a loser.

[Danny G]

I'm a loser. Mike, do you think after last night, you think our Mets are gonna slip out of the wild card in the next couple days or what?

[Rich]

They're terrible. I can't even talk about it.

[Danny G]

Mets are only one game up on the Reds right now, which is wild. So I know I.

[Covino]

You know. And again, you're a fan. You're not on the team, but it does affect Your mood loser. And it affects your confidence and psyche a little bit to be rooting for losing teams all the time has to because you feel, you don't feel like a winner when your team sucks. And I know that because when your team wins, you feel great, you feel good. So it does add to the frustration levels. And we give Mike Luzito all the props and all the credit. We have the actual inventor here on the Covino and Rich show.

[Danny G]

How do you like that? I remember he would always do this. So, hey, are you miserable? Do you have the right to be miserable? Go play along and do it yourself. And by the way, just a reminder, we are streaming live every day on the fox Sports Radio YouTube page. We got our own page. I said it yesterday. I want to test this out. Let's see if we get a little spike spot. Everyone, right now in this very moment when we're about to take a quick little break, go to YouTube.com@covino and rich. FSR hit the subscribe button. I want to see if we get a little spike by the time we come back.

[Covino]

Unless you're driving. Unless you're driving now.

[Danny G]

If you're driving, you can do it, too. Just be careful. Hand the phone. Hand the phone to your passenger.

[Rich]

Yeah, pull over.

[Danny G]

No, it's a cardigan. It's a card. But thanks for noticing, by the way.

[Covino]

Hold on, Rich. Everybody has a group text message with old school high school buddies or college friends.

[Danny G]

Yeah.

[Covino]

Send it to your group message and tell them, hey, it's a good show. Just hit subscribe. Check it out. We appreciate it.

[Danny G]

Yeah. Again, YouTube.com and we got plenty to get to. We're going to talk a lot of NFL today. Jalen Ramsey is in the news making a transition from team to team. And there's an angle there. We're going to go old school today. Give away some stuff. A lot. Coming up right here on Fox Sports Radio, Covino and Rich. Okay, let me stop you right there.

[Covino]

The Mets suck a foot, washed up a shoe with some bones in it. They had no idea who it was.

[Rich]

Most everything was burned up pretty good from the fire that not a whole lot was salvageable.

[Podcast Announcer]

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[Covino]

He never thought he was going to get caught and I just looked at my computer screen. I was just like, ah, gotcha.

[Podcast Announcer]

On America's Crime Lab, we'll learn about victims and survivors, and you'll meet the team behind the scenes at othram, the Houston lab that takes on the most hopeless cases to finally solve the unsolvable. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Covino]

Imagine that you're on an airplane, and all of a sudden you hear this.

[Podcast Announcer]

Attention, passengers. The pilot is having an emergency, and we need someone, anyone, to land this plane.

[Covino]

Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control. And they're saying, like, okay, pull this.

[Danny G]

Until this.

[Covino]

Pull that. Turn this.

[Danny G]

It's just.

[Covino]

I can do my eyes closed. I'm Manny. I'm Noah. This is Devin. And on our new show, no Such Thing, we get to the bottom of questions like these. Join us as we talk to the leading expert on overconfidence. Those who lack expertise lack the expertise.

[Rich]

They need to recognize that they lack expertise.

[Covino]

And then as we try the whole thing out for real. Wait, what? Oh, that's the run, right? I'm looking at this thing. See, listen. Listen to no such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[John Lithgow]

Hello, I'm John Lithgow.

[Rich]

We choose to go to the moon.

[John Lithgow]

I want to tell you about my new fiction podcast.

[Covino]

That's One small step for Man.

[John Lithgow]

It's about Buzz Aldrin, one of the true pioneers of space.

[Danny G]

You're a great pilot, Buzz. As far as I'm concerned, the best I've seen.

[John Lithgow]

That's the story you think you know. This is the story you don't predisposition.

[Podcast Announcer]

To depression, alcohol abuse, and suicide.

[John Lithgow]

We'll see Buzz try to overcome demons.

[Rich]

What do you say, Buzz?

[Covino]

Another beer.

[John Lithgow]

And triumph over addiction.

[Covino]

Here's to you, Buzz Aldrin.

[John Lithgow]

Good luck to you and become a true hero.

[Covino]

Buzz and I will proceed into the.

[John Lithgow]

Lunar module not because he conquers space, but because he conquers himself.

[Covino]

Buzz, we intercepted a Soviet radio transmission.

[John Lithgow]

Starring me, John Lithgow.

[Covino]

Can you put it through?

[John Lithgow]

Can you Translate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts?

[Podcast Announcer]

Columbia, we all know, right? Genius is evenly distributed. Opportunity is not.

[Covino]

It's black business month, and black tech. Green money is tapping in. I'm Will Lucas, spotlighting black founders, investors, and innovators building the future. One idea at a time. Let's talk tech and generational wealth. I don't think any person of any gender, race, ethnicity should alter who they are, especially on an intellectual level or a talent level, to make someone else feel comfortable just because they are the majority in this situation and they need employment. So for me, I'm always going to be honest in saying that we need to be unapologetically ourselves. If that makes me a vocal CEO and people consider that rocking the boat, so be it. To hear this and more on the power of Black innovation and ownership, listen to Black Tech Green Money from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Podcast Announcer]

Welcome to Pretty Private with ebony, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm Ebony and every Tuesday I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. You On Pretty Private, we'll explore the untold experiences of women of color who faced it all childhood trauma, addiction, abuse, incarceration, grief, mental health struggles and more and found the strength to make it to the other side. My dad was shot and killed in his house. Yes, he was a drug dealer. Yes, he was a confidential informant, but he wasn't shot on street corner. He wasn't shot in the middle of a drug dealer. He was shot in his house, unarmed. Pretty Private isn't just a podcast, it's your personal guide for turning storylines into lifelines. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast Network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

[Danny G]

Great song, Sam.

[Covino]

It's really not, but I told Sam to play it. I asked. I'm sorry, we don't tell Sam what to do, but I asked politely for him to play it because I feel like it went with our discussion. And I wanted to point out how terrible this song was. I really did. Frustrated incorporated soul asylum 1995 it's all about the misery meter today. ESPN's misery meter, something that we've talked about in the past, is now an official algorithm on espn. You put in your teams and it tells you how miserable you're allowed to be based on the percentage. And our boy Mike Lozito invented that. Anyone that leads, or should I say leans into their misery, I think is a bad personality trait. Like, I sort of hate that. Like, I don't mind the sort of aw shucks, I root for a loser attitude Like, Mike has. But Mike's a great guy. A lot of people let their misery define their personality. And that's what this song's sort of about. And that's why I hate it even more. Like, listen to this line. They say, misery loves company. We should start a company and make misery. Frustrated, Incorporated. Like, how corny is that?

[Danny G]

Philosophical and poetic.

[Covino]

It's so corny. Frustrated, Incorporated. Like, no, thanks. I want no part of your misery. And I don't want to start a misery company.

[Danny G]

Frustrated, Incorporated. Well, there's. There's a lot of NFL teams that are, that are hoping. Like, Danny, I was, I was talking about you behind your back. Only because you're in the next room. But when Big Mike was in here, I'm like, look at Dan. He's got his Raiders gear on every year. He's so optimistic. But it could turn to misery real quick. Who do the Raiders play? Week 1 of the NFL?

[Covino]

The Patriots in New Age. Yeah, but Danny G. Doesn't let that misery define his personality.

[Danny G]

He's a happy guy. He's a happy. I think that's a winnable game. By the way.

[Covino]

I don't mind it affecting you, but don't ever let it define you. When I was in my really quick rich. When I was in my early 20s, I pissed off my co host of the morning show I was on because after a bad Raiders loss, I refused to do the sports report on our Monday morning show.

[Danny G]

Just refusal.

[Covino]

Yeah. And the general manager of the radio station, he pulled me aside after the show because he heard the co host complaining and he said, dude, does Al Davis pay your bills? And I said, no. And he's like, so don't let it affect your personality. The players after the game, whether they win or lose, they're at a steak dinner, celebrate, still celebrating life being happy, and you're at home being miserable. More miserable than them.

[Danny G]

I would have been like, can Al Davis pay my bills?

[Covino]

You know, I had that thought yesterday. I saw Devin Williams in the Yankees dugout, like playing slap ass with one of the other relievers. Like, he's smiling, having a great time. I'm like, this guy is having the worst season ever, responsible for half of the Yankees misery. And here I am all mad about it. Yet he's having fun. I'm like, we take it too much to heart.

[Danny G]

Do you mean your closer? You mean your closer who's making tens of millions of dollars smiling and laughing and meanwhile you're frustrated. Incorporated. Exactly.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

So again, we understand that affects you. Don't Let it define you. And check out your misery meter.

[Danny G]

I'm gonna check out my misery meter. Espn, what's up? I was. Sam, I was just gonna say.

[Covino]

Rich, didn't you bring that up?

[Danny G]

That Juan solo, He's smiling and laughing too much and having a great time. Well, to me, I don't mind, but I have fans. I have friends. I have, like, met fan friends on my group chat that when Juan Soto is in the batter's box, like, chuckling and, like, you know, giving a little elbow to the catcher and, you know, joking with umpire. Hey, blue. And he's smiling. I have fans, the friends that are like, why are we okay with this? I'm like, what do you want? Do you want Juan Soto to have a, like, a sad look on his face until the Mets turn it around, like, you got to play loose, man. And remember, these guys may not even care as much as you do sometimes. I got to ask Isaac Lowencron. Isaac, I don't even know your teams in my mind. Are you like Rob Lowe? Do you just wear, like, an NFL hat?

[Rich]

No, for me, it's. For me, it's the teams that I have that have logos on the checks I get. So I live and die with those teams like the Chargers, Angel City FC of the National Women's Soccer League. But I. You know, that's actually a great question, because my team growing up was the LA Kings. And I was so traumatized by them losing in the Stanley cup finals in 1993, what, 32 years ago, that I'm like, you know, it'll be less heart wrenching to be on the broadcasting side of it. Cause it's really emotionally tough to be a fan.

[Danny G]

So are you one of those guys that, when you became a broadcaster, sort of put aside your fandom a little bit?

[Rich]

Yes. Because there was less chance of pain that way.

[Danny G]

Oh, my God. You're like the guy that's like, I don't care. You're like the guy in the Bachelorette that's like, I don't want to get hurt.

[Covino]

So you just say, no, don't run away from him. Your emotions.

[Danny G]

Honestly, Isaac, maybe we need to have a therapy session about this. Like, who do you, I assume Dodgers at one point or Angels. You're a West coast guy, right?

[Rich]

Dodgers growing up, Lakers growing up. Oh, my gosh. My team was the Kings and my total mood.

[Danny G]

And by emotionally giving up, though, didn't you miss two in the 2000s? They've won two cups since.

[Rich]

Yeah, they win two Stanley Cups after they'd been in existence for 45 years. They win two Stanley Cups in three years. But by that time I was like full broadcaster. So on the flip side, I didn't, I didn't put myself at the risk of the pain, but I also didn't have the chance to enjoy it the way I would have had I been a fan.

[Danny G]

Isaac's objective. It's called being an objective journalist.

[Covino]

That.

[Danny G]

And he's scared. He's scared. I don't want to. He doesn't want to open up. Don't hurt me again. He doesn't want to open up.

[Covino]

So, guys, it's Covino and Rich at a regular time. The past three days we've been filling in for the Dan Patrick show. If you missed any of those shows, that's three hours every day, three hours of the greatness that you get from cnr. If you missed anything, catch the podcast search Covino and Rich, follow the podcast and of course, our new YouTube stream at covinoenrich.fsr to watch us live. Let's take a few phone calls, then we'll talk Jalen Ramsey. JALEN RAMSEY Next 87799 on Fox. Who do we got?

[Danny G]

Let's talk Jalen Ramsey. Let's, let's get into that and then we'll, because I, I think people just talk about their misery. I don't feel like plugging people's teams. And you could do it on your own.

[Covino]

Okay. Yeah. The misery meter is available now at espn. So Jalen Ra again going from Miami to Pennsylvania, said now as a Steeler, I got rid of the Rolls Royce and I bought me a Ram truck. I'm ready. So not only is he ready for the new season and the new team, he's ready to be a full on Pennsylvania, blue collar kind of guy. And Rich, we've gone to some Steelers, Super Bowls, we've gone to some games in Pennsylvania. We're talking blue collar dudes with mustaches, trucks. And that's just sort of lifestyle. So he's planning on leaning into it is the vibe I'm getting. So again, got rid of the Rolls Royce, bought a Ram truck, he's ready.

[Danny G]

So we ask you, do you feel like you yourself are the type of person that lean into where you're moving or living, or do you feel like you bring you there and then that you're just genuinely you all the time? Like to me, someone popped immediately in my head, Danny, when we were talking about do you, do you go to a city and make that city your own or do you adapt to the city. When Mike McDaniel decided to coach the Dolphins, he became like an extra off the set of Miami Vice. Like he was a drug lord. Like he was a villain in a.

[Covino]

Random episode of Miami Vice, became Scarface. Yeah, that's a great example.

[Danny G]

Mike McDaniel, I think, is cool. He's a funny personality, but he let the hair grow, he got a tan, he's wearing capris on the sidelines.

[Covino]

A professional showing a lot of ankle, I mean, or. Or a coach. I think it's smart and good business to lean into that city and win over some fans. And we saw Bryce Harper do a. A tremendous job of that when he went to Philadelphia, right? He was just like, yo, I'm all about it. We're seeing Russell Wilson do a pretty good job of that now, just embracing. He embraced Denver, and we saw him now embracing New York. Like, we've seen him do a good campaign of, hey, man, I'm all about it and I think you should. I think that's good. I like what Jalen Ramsey's doing here. So I love when athletes lean into the new city and try to embrace the fans, therefore, hopefully getting embraced by them in return. I mean, I think real life, rich. I think it's a little different. Like, for me, I don't feel like LA changed me much. I feel like a lot of people in LA meet me and immediately know I'm an East coast guy by the way I act, by the way I talk, by the way I lean. And I think the only thing I really changed was maybe, like, because health is such a priority in la, I think you just sort of roll that way. Because if I still lived on the East Coast, I'd probably be 20 pounds heavier with all the pizza, the Gaba, Ghoul, Taylor ham sandwiches.

[Danny G]

That's perhaps.

[Covino]

I think diet will change you for sure based on your move.

[Danny G]

I do think sometimes when you're the face of an organization, quarterback, star, player, the easiest thing you could possibly do, easiest thing you could do is ingratiate yourself to that city. All you got, like, I mean, Aaron Rodgers, who we love to make fun of. I think we all agreed the best thing Aaron Rodgers has done over the last decade that no one could disagree with, was his little short tenure at the Jets. Remember how it started? He was going to Broadway play, sitting courtside at a Knicks game. Did a great job, you know, doing videos of him eating New York City pizza. He bought a cool place in Jersey. Like, he won over New York. And then, of course, the injury and you know, under delivering on the field. But he did all the right things leading up to it.

[Covino]

That's where he lost the fans. He did a good job again, leaning into it. So there's a few questions at hand here. First, we commend Jalen Ramsey's move, but he's making changes to win over the new fans. He's like, I'm not that Miami guy in the roles. I'm that Pennsylvania guy with the ram truck.

[Danny G]

Can you adapt changes?

[Covino]

You've. Are there changes you've made? If you've moved, you could let us know. Rich, do any come to mind for you?

[Danny G]

You know, I thought of this because you said something the other day. Our buddy Nico, who a lot of you guys met, he was at our Covino Rich convention. One of our radio buds, Danny G. You get along with Nico great.

[Covino]

I've heard him a few times now. He does mornings in Phoenix.

[Danny G]

I'm glad you said that.

[Covino]

I got to chat with him for.

[Danny G]

A few minutes because he's awesome. Our boy Nico, one of our old school radio buds, actually a guy that was influential in introducing Cavino and I. He was always.

[Covino]

You brought you two together, right?

[Danny G]

He was. He was born and raised in Detroit, but when he moved to New York, he was straight up living in downtown Brooklyn, hipster New York City, DJing at clubs. And now he got a great opportunity. He's the morning guy on a country station. He's like, hop along, Nico with a cowboy hat now. And he dove into country music culture and he's all about it now. And he hangs with like country artists and stuff. So here's the thing, though.

[Covino]

He's not faking it. I don't like when people fake it. I believe he's a natural chameleon. And he sort of does become that person and he really does like it. Yeah, in country, that modern country music is top 40 now. He's a top 40 guy.

[Danny G]

Yeah.

[Covino]

So his style works even in that format. So I'm not saying be a phony baloney. I'm saying if it's happening organically, that's great. And think about it, Rich. What changes did you make again? We're from the East Coast, New York, New Jersey. We've been living in LA for over 10 years now. Well, over 10 years for me. Do you think there's change, significant changes you made now, being a guy who lives in Los Angeles?

[Danny G]

My tan's a little better. That's about it. I mean, that's really about it.

[Covino]

You're not as pale as you Would.

[Danny G]

Have been, yeah, you know, I think about Keith Hernandez a lot because his great mustache and he's a Mets broadcaster every day. But, you know, Keith is a Bay Area guy, played for the Cardinals when he went to New York City. And I brought up Keith a few times because he's a great example of he did not want to go to New York. And it's, you know, you hear about this in all these 80s baseball things. He hated the idea he was traded. He was an mvp, World Series champion with the Cardinals and he was traded to the Mets before they popped in the 80s. And he wanted nothing to do with it. He hated it. And then he said, you know what? I'm going to become the guy that moves to Manhattan. And he really embraced like the single life as a star player in New York. And what did Keith Hernet there is now. He's one of the most legendary guys in New York sports over the last 50 years.

[Covino]

Hey, Rich, if you did live in Texas or worked for a country radio station like our boy Nico, would you be. Hop along, Dickey. Would you be a cowboy hat wearing, cowboy boot wearing sort of guy?

[Danny G]

I think. You know what, I think I should do that anyway, you know, let's go to Isaac. Let's think about this more and let's think of some players that have changed their vibe, so to speak.

[Covino]

Changes you've seen the changes you've made based on a move.

[Danny G]

What up, Isaac?

[Rich]

I do have one addendum to your Keith Hernandez illusion.

[Podcast Announcer]

Who does this guy think he is?

[Covino]

I'm Keith Hernandez.

[Rich]

Ah, yes.

[Danny G]

I mean, he was even in Seinfeld, based in New York. He really dove into I'm a New York guy.

[Rich]

One of the great cameos in sitcom history by an athlete. Guys, we have a ton of news today, a lot of it involving courtrooms and a lot of it involving the Cleveland Browns. First, the Florida state Attorney's office today declined to file charges against Brown rookie running back Quinshon Judkins after he was accused of misdemeanor battery last month. A short time ago, a grand jury in Collin County, Texas, has also declined to file charges against former Texas receiver Isaiah Bond after he was accused of sexual assault in April and subsequently was not selected in the NFL draft. Bond announced on social media just a few minutes ago that now that he's been cleared, he is signing one with the Cleveland Browns. Meanwhile, Los Angeles Chargers head coach Jim Harbaugh announced that Justin Herbert will start a quarterback Saturday against the Rams and play a series or two. It'll be his first career preseason appearance. Finally, Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Penix Jr. Involved in controversy because of the following seemingly innocuous statement he made during a press conference.

[Covino]

They had a lot of words throughout practice, so I gave my words and just went a little bit too far.

[Rich]

The controversy comes not from those words, but rather what was on the screen on WTOC television in Savannah, Georgia, while they were televising those words. Because the graphic on the screen showing Penix's name had a rather unfortunate typographical error, substituting the X in Penix's name for the letter S. Oh, you mean.

[Danny G]

My favorite quarterback, Michael Penis Jr. That's him.

[Rich]

Sounds like he's on your fantasy team. Back to you.

[Danny G]

Good one, Isaac.

[Covino]

Shots fired. Oh, man.

[Danny G]

Hey, we got more coming on, Rich. Thank you, Isaac. We're going to talk some more NFL and we're going to go old school. Coming up right here on Fox Sports Radio. Kavino and Rich, let's go.

[Covino]

A foot washed up, a shoe with some bones in it. They had no idea who it was.

[Rich]

Most everything was burned up pretty good from the fire that not a whole lot was salvageable.

[Podcast Announcer]

These are the coldest of cold cases. But everything is about to change. Every case that is a cold case that has DNA right now in a backlog will be identified in our lifetime. A small lab in Texas is cracking the code on DNA using new scientific tools. They're finding clues in evidence so tiny you might just miss it.

[Covino]

He never thought he was going to get caught. And I just looked at my computer screen, I was just like, ah, gotcha.

[Podcast Announcer]

On America's Crime Lab, we'll learn about victims and survivors. And you'll meet the team behind the scenes at othram, the Houston lab that takes on the most hopeless cases to finally solve the unsolvable. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Covino]

Imagine that you're on an airplane and all of a sudden you hear this.

[Podcast Announcer]

Attention, passengers. The pilot is having an emergency, emergency. And we need someone, anyone, to land this plane.

[Covino]

Think you could do it? It turns out that nearly 50% of men think that they could land the plane with the help of air traffic control. And they're saying like, okay, pull this.

[Danny G]

Until this.

[Covino]

Pull that. Turn this. It's just I can do my eyes closed. I'm Manny. I'm Noah. This is Devin. And on our new show, no Such Thing, we get to the bottom of questions like these. Join us as we talk to the leading Expert on overconfidence. Those who lack expertise lack the expertise.

[Rich]

They need to recognize that they lack expertise.

[Covino]

And then as we try the whole thing out for real. Wait, what? Oh, that's the Runway. I'm looking at this thing.

[Danny G]

See?

[Covino]

Listen to no such thing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[John Lithgow]

Hello, I'm John Lithgow.

[Rich]

We choose to go to the moon.

[John Lithgow]

I want to tell you about my new fiction podcast.

[Covino]

That's One Small step for Man.

[John Lithgow]

It's about Buzz Aldrin, one of the true pioneers of space.

[Danny G]

You're a great pilot, Buzz. As far as I'm concerned, the best I've seen.

[John Lithgow]

That's the story you think you know. This is the story you don't predisposition.

[Podcast Announcer]

To depression, alcohol abuse, and suicide.

[John Lithgow]

We'll see Buzz try to overcome demons.

[Rich]

What do you say, Buzz?

[Covino]

Another beer?

[John Lithgow]

And triumph over addiction.

[Covino]

Who's. Good luck to you, Buzz Aldrin.

[John Lithgow]

Good luck to you and become a true hero.

[Covino]

Buzz and I will proceed into the.

[John Lithgow]

Lunar module not because he conquers space, but because he conquers himself.

[Covino]

Buzz, we intercepted a Soviet radio transmission.

[John Lithgow]

Starring me, John Lithgow.

[Covino]

Can you put it through?

[John Lithgow]

Can you Translate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast?

[Podcast Announcer]

We all know, right, genius is evenly distributed. Opportunity is not.

[Covino]

It's black Business Month, and black tech green money is tapping in. I'm Will Lucas, spotlighting black founders, investors, and innovators building the future one idea at a time. Let's talk legacy tech and generational wealth. I don't think any person of any gender, race, ethnicity should alter who they are, especially on an intellectual level or a talent level level, to make someone else feel comfortable just because they are the majority in this situation and they need employment. So for me, I'm always going to be honest in saying that we need to be unapologetically ourselves. If that makes me a vocal CEO and people consider that rocking the boat, so be it. To hear this and more on the power of black innovation and ownership, listen to Black Tech Green money from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast guests.

[Podcast Announcer]

Welcome to Pretty Private with E, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm E, and every Tuesday, I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. On Pretty Private, we'll explore the untold experiences of women of color. Who faced it all, childhood trauma, addiction, abuse, incarceration, grief, mental health struggles and more. And found the strength to make it to the other side. My dad was shot and killed in his house. Yes, he was a drug dealer. Yes, he was a confidential informant. But he wasn't shot on a street corner. He wasn't shot in the middle of a drug deal. He was shot in his house, unarmed. Pretty Private isn't just a podcast. It's your personal guy for turning storylines into lifelines. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect podcast network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

[Covino]

Thank you guys for watching us on YouTube, the new channel YouTube.cominoenrich FSR and of course, checking out our podcast. Just search Covino and Rich CNR on fsr. And it's time for a tire rack play of the day. It started with pocket pancakes and streaks all the way up to free George Webb burgers for the whole city.

[Danny G]

Myers out of the stretch. The pitch and a swing and a miss. He struck him out.

[Rich]

Wow.

[Danny G]

Would you like fries with that? 12 in a row for the crew, 12 to five. Your final the brewers with their second longest winning streak in the regular season in franchise history. Yeah, that guy's very announcer, huh? 12 in a row, courtesy of the Brewers Radio Network. That was our tire rack play of the day. I would be excited too, if my team won 12 in a row. The Mets have lost like 12 of 14.

[Covino]

Must be nice. Must be.

[Danny G]

Now 40 years Tyrax been helping people. Must be be nice. The right tires for how, what and where they drive ship fast and free, backed by free road hazard protection, convenient installation options like mobile tire insulation. Tirek.com the way tire buying should be. And you know what, look at the clock. We go old school every Thursday. When the clock hits 50, there's a surge.

[Covino]

Yay. What we gonna do right here is go back into time.

[Rich]

Throwing it back for a Thursday old.

[Covino]

School, when 50 hits at 50 after.

[Rich]

C and R give you the time capsule topic and we reminisce together.

[Danny G]

Yeah.

[Covino]

So the most inclusive show on radio invites you to call and say what's up 87799 on Fox. Like Rich said, we do this every Thursday. We get you involved. And this story is one that sweeps in the nation. Out of Van Nuys, California. So out of Van Nuys, there's this guy, this resident called Gary. Right, Gary. His name is Gary Boyad. Zion Boyadzian. Let's call Him, Gary B.

[Danny G]

How about that?

[Rich]

Gary B.

[Covino]

Train horns and at all hours, this loud ass train horn all hours of the day. Day. And neighbors, the residents in his neighborhood calling him the neighbor from hell. To the point where it's making national news. To the point where the cops had to come and take him in. So this man's mowing his lawn at 2am, working on cars banging metal all hours of the night into the early morning. And all the neighbors, Bob and Bernard and all these people are coming saying he is the worst.

[Danny G]

Now.

[Covino]

But there's a flip side side to the story that we're going to get to. But it made us think about the worst neighbors, worst roommates ever of all time.

[Danny G]

Now before we get to those, I got to ask, we talked about this with Dan Byer. When, when he's been here doing the update. When is too early or too late for anyone in your neighborhood to be doing any type of work mowing lawns, construction hammers and drills and revving cars and motorcycles. Do we, do we have a time? Because I'll be honest, the other day, it was a Saturday morning and my next door neighbor must have been having some landscaping or work done. There were things going on at like 7:30 in the morning. And I almost wanted to be like, if my neighbor wasn't a kind person, I'm assuming it was like a one off because they were just having work done. 7:30 on a Saturday. I almost wanted to get out of my house and be like, what the f are we doing here?

[Covino]

My mom used to say the nines. Covino, 9:00am and 9:00pm yeah, you know, understandable. But what happens is the police showed up yesterday, right? Because again, it's such a big deal and like the neighbors have had enough. The neighbor from hell, Gary.

[Danny G]

Well, it finally went to the news.

[Covino]

They went to the news, reacted because it made the news. And the police show up and the LAPD are telling like Fox 11 and all the local news outlets that they, they can't really make a citation against Gary because the officers need to, to hear the noise and observe the noise for themselves. So he split, the cops came, he was out. But then he did tell a story as to why he's making some of this noise. And we'll get to that later. But right now we want you to start thinking about the worst roommates, the worst neighbors you ever had. The things they used to do to get under your skin.

[Danny G]

Have you ever had a neighbor that made you move?

[Covino]

Probably. I'm sure there's a lot of stories like that.

[Danny G]

Have you ever agreed to a roommate and totally regretted it? Well, let's share some of your weak ass stories next right here. Kavino and Rich on fsr.

[Covino]

AHAR presents the Big three playoffs this Sunday. The remaining four teams battle to make the championship in the most physical, fierce and competitive basketball league in the world. The action starts with the big three monster energy celebrity game. Then Dwight Howard and his LA Riott take on Montrez Harrell and and Dr. J Chicago triplets. The finale will see popular Miami 305 with stars MVP Michael Beasley and Lance Stevenson take on Nancy Lieberman's Dallas power who will make it to the big three championship. The no holds barred action starts Sunday at 3pm Eastern, 12 Pacific only on CBS.

[Rich]

I'm Jake Hofer and this is back 40, a limited series show on Wire to Hunt, part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network. Each episode I'll be asking eight whitetail hunting pros a focus focused, thought provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access?

[Covino]

Should you? That's what the real question is.

[Danny G]

Stand without good access is not a good stand.

[Rich]

Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Let's start with a quick puzzle.

[Podcast Announcer]

The answer is Ken Jennings appearance on.

[Rich]

The puzzle with A.J.

[Covino]

Jacobs.

[Rich]

The question is what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land Jeopardy truthers believe in?

[John Lithgow]

I guess they would be conspiracy theorists.

[Danny G]

That's right. They gave you the answers and you still blew it.

[Rich]

The Puzzler listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[John Lithgow]

Hello, I'm John Lithgow.

[Rich]

We choose to go to the moon.

[John Lithgow]

I want to tell you about my new fiction podcast about Buzz Aldrin, one of the true pioneers of space.

[Danny G]

You're a great pilot, Buzz.

[John Lithgow]

That's the story you think you know. This is the story you don't. Buzz starring me, John Lithgow on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Covino]

Get fired up, y'. All.

[Podcast Announcer]

Season 2 of Good Game with Sarah Spain is underway. We just welcomed one of my favorite people, an incomparable soccer icon Megan Rapinoe to the show and we had a blast. Take a listen. Sue and I were like riding the lime bikes the other day and we're.

[Danny G]

Like wee people ride bikes because it's fun.

[Podcast Announcer]

We got more incredible guests like Megan in store, plus news of the day and more. So make sure you listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Brought to you by Novartis, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports Network. Work this is an I Heart podcast.