Covino & Rich - Team Out, Tune Out?

Summary

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The Dan Patrick Show: Covino & Rich – "Team Out, Tune Out?"

Date: October 10, 2025
Hosts: Steve Covino & Rich Davis
Contributors: Danny G, Edmund, Dan Byer, Spotty
Network: iHeartPodcasts – Dan Patrick Podcast Network

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Episode Overview

In this lively edition of Covino & Rich, the central theme is:
When your team gets knocked out—do you still care about the postseason, or do you immediately "tune out"?
The hosts and crew, still stinging from eliminations of their own favorite teams, dig into fandom, sports heartache, and whether "pulling for" someone else is legitimate. They discuss possible pivot points—do you start following a new team's story, root for other players, or jump sports entirely? Plus, the group hits on memorable moments from MLB playoffs and pivots into NBA news, delivering classic banter along the way.

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Key Discussion Points & Segments

1. Fandom After Your Team Loses

[00:57–04:42]

• Steve Covino, a Yankees fan, commiserates after another disappointing season:

  "All the Yankees stink. They didn't deserve to win... The Yankees abandoned all of [the fundamentals] just to swing in the air and whiff and miss and go for home runs. And that's not baseball, that's failure."
  — Covino, 00:57

• The panel discusses the emotional stages following team elimination—bitterness, denial, and ultimate resignation.

• They question:

  • Do "true fans" keep watching the postseason, or is it OK to tap out?
  • Is it acceptable to root for another team, or is that bandwagon behavior?
  • Can you pull for a friend's favorite team, or are you obligated to pick a rival?

2. How to Watch When You Have 'No Dog in the Fight'

[05:31–11:15]

• Covino & Rich consider two main reactions from fans:

  • Some immediately stop watching when their team is eliminated.
  • Others still watch, maybe finding another team or player to root for based on storylines or underdog narratives.

• Organic Fandom:

  • Guest Dan Byer sums it up:

    "I think one of the great things about being a sports fan is watching an event and having a natural reaction to a game that you didn't know that you were cheering for a certain team. You may have no dog in the fight...you come out of it and you're like, why was I rooting for that team the whole time?"
    — Byer, 08:43

3. Bandwagoning & Maturity in Sports Fandom

[11:20–13:55]

• Rich Davis defends the idea of "stepping on a bandwagon, not jumping on one":

  "You don't ever claim to be a fan of that team. But...as a Mets fan...if I said, you know what, Cal Raleigh's having a magical year. I do like everyone on that team. Maybe I'll pull for the Mariners."
  — Davis, 05:42

• The hosts jokingly debate:

  • Rooting for a friend's team vs. choosing a team you respect.
  • Emotional maturity—can you enjoy good baseball even when it's not your team?
  • Hating on rivals ("There's no way I'm rooting for the Blue Jays. So again, guys, what do you do in these situations?" — Covino, 10:54)

4. Player vs. Team Allegiance

[17:13–18:07]

• Discussion broadens to rooting for favorite players (e.g., Yelich, Bryce Harper) instead of teams.

• Edmund points out new generations often follow favorite players, even if they’re not on their local or originally supported teams, especially in the NBA.

• Quote:

  "My teenagers do this a lot in the NBA. They have favorite players like Steph [Curry]...But they're Laker fans. So this generation right now, they follow different NBA players."
  — Edmund, 18:07

5. LeBron James Injury Update

[18:23–19:58]

• Breaking news segment:

  • LeBron James to miss 3–4 weeks with sciatica.
  • The guys riff on age, athlete injuries, and old-man problems in professional sports.

• Quote:

  "That's 40-something year old guy problems. That's not young guy problems from hoisting Hennessy."
  — Rich Davis, 18:47

6. Transitioning to Other Sports

[14:04–14:33]

• Rich reflects on how fans might pivot to other sports as soon as their primary rooting interest is gone.
  • "I have New York friends that are like, all right, Mets, let us down onto...the Rangers and the Knicks. Basketball and hockey are on the horizon."
• Covino admits, "I feel like I'm all alone now, in the mist." (14:33).

7. Listener Calls: The Post-Elimination Playbook

[30:36–34:34]

• Listeners share their own approaches:

  • Rooting for the team that has never won (Brewers, Mariners).
  • Some tune out completely; others watch for great storylines, underdogs, or their kids' favorite teams.
  • The "family feud" of fandom in multi-team households.

• Quote:

  "If we were playing Family Feud...I think the number one answer on the board would be people root for the team that perhaps the franchise has never won. That's always the answer."
  — Rich Davis, 31:42

8. Humor, Grief, and the Stages of Sports Loss

[35:55–36:50]

• Covino jokes about the stages of grief:

  "Only one team wins. So shut your pie hole. If it's not your team, then shut up."
  — Covino, 36:19

• "I think it's a failure. I'm embarrassed by the Yankees. I'm disgusted...I love the game that the Blue Jays play. I just don't like them."
  — Covino, 36:33

9. Old School TV—Fox’s Edgy Origins

[38:04–43:38]

• Celebrating the anniversary ("On this day in 1986") of Fox launching as America's fourth TV network.

• Reflection on Fox's early edginess:

  • Simpsons, Married with Children, In Living Color, and risqué cartoons/shows.
  • Hosts reminisce: Bart Simpson T-shirts, parents objecting to "bad influences," and sneaking a watch when adults weren’t around.

• Quote:

  "Al Bundy went to what strip club did he go to? The Jiggly Room."
  — Covino, 42:39 "It was borderline inappropriate, especially for back then."
  — Rich Davis, 42:22

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• "All the Yankees stink. They didn't deserve to win...I'm sick of it. I'm done with it."
  — Steve Covino [00:57]

• "One of the great things about being a sports fan is...having a natural reaction to a game that you didn't know that you were cheering for a certain team..."
  — Dan Byer [08:43]

• "You have friends that are like, dude, it's a postseason. What do you mean you're not watching?"
  — Rich Davis [05:42]

• "I'm a little spiteful...I like the style of play...I just don't like them. No way I'm rooting for the Blue Jays."
  — Steve Covino [10:54]

• "If your team's out, do you tune out? Is that the only way to do this? Or as a sports fan, do you say...let me root for my buddy's team?"
  — Steve Covino [06:26]

• "My teenagers do this a lot in the NBA. They have favorite players like Steph and so they'll be sharing during a Warriors game. But they're Laker fans."
  — Edmund [18:07]

• "That's 40-something year old guy problems. That's not young guy problems from hoisting Hennessy."
  — Rich Davis [18:47]

• "But only one team wins. Relax, slow your roll. And I can't wait to see who it is."
  — Steve Covino [36:50]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Rant on Yankees, Post-elimination Fandom: [00:57–04:42]
• When Your Team’s Out: Now What? [04:42–13:55]
• Dan Byer: The Joy of Unplanned Fandom [08:43]
• Transitioning to Other Teams/Sports [14:04–14:33]
• Player Allegiance over Team Allegiance [17:13–18:07]
• LeBron James Injury Discussion [18:23–19:58]
• Caller Segment (Post-Elimination Mindset) [30:36–34:34]
• Yankees Grief & Humor [35:55–36:50]
• Old School TV, Fox Network’s Edgy Start [38:04–43:38]

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Recap & Takeaways

• Passionate Fandom: Sports pain is real, and Covino’s Yankees heartbreak is palpable.
• "Tune Out vs. Tune In": There’s no “right way” to navigate fandom after elimination. Some find joy in other storylines; some just can’t bear to watch.
• Bandwagon vs. "Stepping On": The hosts make a subtle but important distinction: you can enjoy another team's run without claiming allegiance.
• Player-First Fandom: The next generation roots for players as much, or more, than teams.
• Humor & Community: The hosts use light ribbing and sports pain as bonding—whether busting on each other or relating to callers.
• Pop Culture Tie-ins: Celebrating Fox’s anniversary, the team reflects on how the rough edges of 1980s–90s programming shaped expectations.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode:

This episode blends commiseration over lost dreams with truthful reminders about the nature of sports fandom. Expect irreverence, sharp takes, and plenty of laughs as the Covino & Rich crew debates the “right” way to watch sports when yours isn’t the team left standing.

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To get in on the discussion, follow @CovinoAndRich and call in at 877-99-ON-FOX.

Transcript

[Steve Covino]

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[Steve Covino]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Steve Covino]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Podcast Announcer]

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[Rich Davis]

Woo woo woo.

[Steve Covino]

And don't think I'm gonna be here sitting like a sad panda. All the Yankees stink. They didn't deserve to win. I tip my hat, even though I'm not wearing one to the Toronto Blue Jays because they play a better brand of baseball. That's what I signed up to watch when I was a kid, when I invested in this game that I love. It was called baseball. And there was fundamentals and there was things involved and the Yankees abandoned all of that just to swing in the air and whiff and miss and go for home runs. And that's not baseball, that's failure. It may have worked a few years ago. It doesn't work anymore. I'm sick of it. I'm done with it. And. And now I'm going to pound.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, I was gonna say, but I'm not sad.

[Steve Covino]

I'm not sad. In fact, I'm rocking out. Let's go.

[Rich Davis]

Well, you know what? Before we get into today's show, speaking of your Yankees, Vladdy Guerrero wanted to chime in and say, what's up to you?

[Caller or Guest (Dan Byer)]

Let's go, baby.

[Steve Covino]

Let's go.

[Rich Davis]

Let's go B.

[Caller or Guest (Dan Byer)]

Go, baby.

[Steve Covino]

Y lose. Yankees lose. First of all, that's disrespectful. Second of all, didn't we say yesterday we hate Razors?

[Rich Davis]

No razzing.

[Steve Covino]

And you're going to raz me. He forced me to do this with Florida from Good Times. I mean, is that Big Poppy you're going to razz me with Guerrero and I could be Big Poppy my face with that.

[Rich Davis]

That was a cool baseball moment, darling.

[Edmund]

Yeah, Rich, wait until your Mets are out of it.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, yeah, please. I know, I know. But you Know what? It poses a great question we're going to get to in a few. It's a simple now what? So we're going to get to that. A lot of NFL going to talk today about Jackson Dart. We're going to go old school and 50 hits. We are doing it live from the FOX Sports Radio studio. And if you miss any of this, the podcast always available wherever you get your pods, just search Kavino and rich. Give it five stars and we're doing it live on YouTube right now. YouTube.com Kovino and Rich FSR do it.

[Steve Covino]

Live so action packed show gram program. Where the pros in the gram. We have a producer, Danny G. What up Danny G. Your Doyers looked like cheeks last night.

[Edmund]

Yeah, they did. I'm the Phillies are. We know they're a good team.

[Rich Davis]

Obviously why we yeah why we acted.

[Edmund]

Like they weren't going to go out being swept. I didn't think that.

[Steve Covino]

I'm not saying that to Raz you they still play another day. I'm just saying they look like, like buns.

[Edmund]

I'm not, I'm not super confident about today's game. By the way. They're going to be playing in the shadows.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, that's true.

[Edmund]

With a good pitcher going for the Phillies.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. But still like to expect your team to sweep everyone. Like, did you think Schwarber was just going to stop hitting home runs? Did you think the Phillies good starting pitching was just going to stop? Like the Dodgers, you know, are not the home team in this series.

[Steve Covino]

You know, there's, there's a lot of great teams this year, really good teams. And the Blue Jays are one of them. Really good team. Ernie Clement, Lucas, these role players. That's what baseball's about, people stepping up. You can't win with just Aaron Judge and swinging for the fences. So the teams that are left right now are really great teams. So of course the Phillies are going to take one. And they left Kershaw in way too long yesterday. We agree on that. But the Dodgers do face challenges today. Danny G. Made a hometown point here. Dodger Stadium wasn't meant to for day games in October like this. So a lot of shadows they're going to have to battle. But still, it's going to be a fun one to watch today. Iowa, Sam is here. Dan Byers here. Spotty's here. And again we're Kavino and Rich. We're glad you're here. My team's out. I'm a Yankees fan now. What? I'm bitter. I'm in that bitter stage of, like, scoot him. I wasted my whole year.

[Rich Davis]

I hate them.

[Steve Covino]

I'm never going to watch, ever. But they don't deserve to win. Riches, Mets are out. Mariners, brewers, db. Still happy. Danny G. Still happy. But my question is this. When your team is out, I'm not saying do you pull another rooting interest, but if you're a sports fan, you still want to, like, watch or not, do you pout and, like, I'm not watching. So the season's over for you. Are you really a sports fan? If that's your angle here? So rooting's not the word, Rich. It's almost like, do you pull for someone else, or is there a storyline that is automatically the default? Like, is the storyline the brewers then? Because no one expected him to win? They're a young team.

[Rich Davis]

I mean, I think there's two ways to go about it. I mean, when your team's out of it, I have friends that at this point, say, I'm done watching.

[Steve Covino]

And you have other friends.

[Rich Davis]

You have other friends that are like, dude, it's a postseason. What do you mean you're not watching? I think what you do when your team is out of it, you don't jump on a bandwagon. But I think what you do is you. You step on one. You don't need to. You don't ever claim to be a fan of that team. But right now, as a Mets fan, they failed to make the post postseason. They stink. But if I said, you know what? Cal Raleigh's having a magical year. I do like everyone on that team. It's a really likable team. They've never won before. Maybe I'll pull for the Mariners.

[Steve Covino]

Maybe you root for a good pal like Dan Buyer and say, you know.

[Rich Davis]

Hey, man, brewers, cheerio, Tarang.

[Edmund]

Rich, wouldn't you cheer for your kids favorite team?

[Rich Davis]

Oh, you mean the Dodgers.

[Edmund]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

And by the way, we live in Los Angeles. Right? So that's also another angle here. The question is, if your team's out, do you tune out? Is that the only way to do this? Or as a sports fan, do you say, and let's make it very clear, Rich, you said it. But I want to reiterate, we're not saying all of a sudden you're a fan of that team. Get out of here. That's garbage. That's garbage, Basura. That's trash. But do you now pull for another team? Because that's what you're left with. So, all right, my team couldn't win. Let Me, be the bigger person, and I'm going to root for my buddy's team.

[Rich Davis]

I've heard.

[Steve Covino]

I like this team. They really play good ball. They deserve. Like, where does your maturity levels go in this case? And that's what I'm trying to figure out today because the Yankees are fresh out of it. And that's what's on my mind. I'm like, well, man, this season's been popping. We've been saying it all season, right? Danny G. Baseball's popping.

[Rich Davis]

Baseball.

[Steve Covino]

Guess what? Our team's out. But it's still popping. So now what?

[Edmund]

No. In the pre show meeting, Rich said it's only popping if my team's still in it.

[Rich Davis]

It's only popping to me, but I'm still watching it.

[Steve Covino]

I don't know, man. It's still electric. All the games yesterday, there's an intensity level that we haven't seen in a long time. Well, not with my Yankees, of course, but, you know, you're seeing some great baseball. So where do you go? Where does your mindset go? And, you know, I got my answers. Rich has his. But we want to hear from you, too. At 87799 on Fox @ Covino and Rich at Fox Sports at Fork Sports Radio. Fark Sports. Fark Sports.

[Rich Davis]

Yar.

[Steve Covino]

Next time, Forks Sports Radio. This guy, he can't even let it slide. Can't let it slide. This guy. Cut him some slack. He never bumbles and fumbles. Rich Davis, Mr. Perfect.

[Rich Davis]

Didn't you call him Clayshaw the other day? Wasn't that my pet name?

[Steve Covino]

He's Richie Stumblebum.

[Edmund]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

Hey, get off Rich's back, okay? I'm a Rich Davis guy.

[Podcast Announcer]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

Seriously, get off his bars.

[Edmund]

Oh, man.

[Rich Davis]

Kavino has no respect for Turang and Cheerio and all your star players.

[Steve Covino]

Did you say Cheerios and Tang?

[Rich Davis]

That was like breakfast in 1995.

[Steve Covino]

1985. 1985.

[Edmund]

Those are the only Brewers Rich knows, by the way.

[Steve Covino]

And, you know, does your maturity level go in this case? I feel like I saw in my peripherals Dan Byers shaking his head, like, if my team's out, I tune out. Is that true?

[Danny G]

Well, I do, but I actually think one of the great things about being a sports fan is watching an event and having a natural reaction to a game that you didn't know that you were cheering for a certain team. You may have no dog in the fight.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

But if you sit down tonight and watch one of these two games, there may be a team where obviously you're just like, yeah, you know, and I kind of want the brewers to win. I love that about being a sports fan is you go into a game thinking you don't care, and you come out of it and you're like, why was I rooting for that team the.

[Steve Covino]

Whole time, Dude, I love that. And that's what I love about fighting, right? Because there's so many times in a preliminary fight or whatever, you're watching two guys you don't really know, but by the middle of that fight, you're pulling for someone, right? You're like, yeah, I want that guy. And I love that about this thought and about this theory. I'm going to watch these games and I'm going to figure it out. So I'm thinking it's Brewers.

[Rich Davis]

I really am looking at him trying.

[Caller or Guest (Dan Byer)]

To get back in.

[Steve Covino]

How can I root for the Dodgers? How can I root for the Dodgers when they beat the Yankees in the World Series? But then again, I live in la. What's the mindset here? But I do love that thought that Dan Beyer just shared. And I express that when it comes to fighting, your heart or your decision comes from the sense of, they got this underdog fight that I relate to, and, oh, I want to see this guy win. You could feel that way about a team you're not necessarily rooting for, but now you're pulling for. So where do your rooting interests go when your team is out? That's the question.

[Rich Davis]

Well, some people go with the mindset of, well, I'm just going to root for the team that eliminated mine, which I never got. But there are people that.

[Steve Covino]

That's a mindset, but I don't like it.

[Rich Davis]

That's not my mindset.

[Steve Covino]

You heard how you started the show. You wanted to rub it in with Vladi Guerrero, that tub of goo. You think I want to root for that guy after he was taking the Waz, as they say, overseas, taking the Waz on the Yankees. Get out of here.

[Rich Davis]

Come on. I think that mindset doesn't vibe with me, but there are plenty of people that say, well, at least that means we lost to the best. I don't get with that.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, I don't get with that. I'm a little spiteful team or something. I don't know.

[Edmund]

Yeah, and you should have stepped up and beat the best before they could have advanced.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, I like the style of ball, the style of play, the heart, the contact, the never giving up in that bat, slapping foul ball after foul ball, working the count, working the pitcher. I love that about the Blue Jays. I just don't like them. I'm an American League east fan. There's no way I'm rooting for the Blue Jays. So again, guys, what do you do in these situations?

[Edmund]

Anti Canadian, do you have a formula.

[Steve Covino]

Or does it happen organically the way Byer described?

[Rich Davis]

Dan Byer described something we've talked about for years, which I'm. It's. I'm great. I'm so glad he said that because there have been so many times where you are watching a fight. Fighting is the best example. Where I don't got a horse in this race by like the sixth round, you're like, oh, I want this guy. Can I tell you this to other.

[Steve Covino]

You like his attitude or his heart or his fire. You made your mind up.

[Rich Davis]

There's two other instances where I feel like this is very present. One's a little more controversial than the other. I feel like in dating, when you see like a reality show, I know it's reality show, so relax. But when a guy's choosing between two women or woman's choose between a couple dudes on the Bachelorette, there's gotta come a point where you're like, I like them both. Something's gonna happen along the way. Where you're like, all right, now that's the one. Something will happen along the way. When you're in a love triangle and I think about this in politics, I have, you know, there's plenty of people that love to say, hey, I'm down the middle. I'm not Democrat or Republican. On election night, your true feelings come out. Cuz when someone's leading, you're either like.

[Steve Covino]

Oh, or you're still making a choice.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, you're making a ch. On election night. On election night, I guarantee you might have said, I'm lukewarm. I don't love or hate Donald Trump. Who knows? I guarantee on election night, when results start coming back in, you have an opinion.

[Steve Covino]

I like the underdog stories. I like the unexpected. But I'll make that choice maybe tonight. Phillies at Dodgers, brewers at Cubs. And of course, you got your Thursday night football, Eagles, Giants. And I will tell you this, Rich, you know, from a professional standpoint, guys like db, especially guys like db, he's your update guy, he's the guy that has to know Cavino and Rich. The show's here. We have to keep an eye on what's going on, right? And plus, it's fun for us. But where does the rooting interest really go here? The game. I got my eye on the Most by far is going to be Brewers, Cubs. The excitement we saw yesterday, the fire we saw yesterday, the storyline we've heard all year about the brewers, like, are they the real deal? You know, they deserve it. Let this team win. Let's see what happens. Let's show the world that it doesn't have to be a giant market that takes it all. The good old fashioned baseball prevails, and that's where the game should be heading toward. And I think that baseball could need that. So I'll be. I'll be watching that game to see if I could organically now say, yeah, I'm pulling for the brew crew. Let's go.

[Danny G]

I'll also say this, that I think Cavino is in a unique situation where so the Mets lose. So Rich turns his attention to the 49ers. You don't have an NFL team?

[Steve Covino]

I don't have a team, Yes. I don't claim a team. Right, Correct. So that's. That's also a very interesting situation. I actually thought about that. You know why? Because a lot of people hit me up last night, sorry about your team, man. And I think a lot of people think I take it harder than I do because it's my only team that's really.

[Rich Davis]

I have New York buddies, Dan, it's so funny you said that. I have New York friends that are like, all right, Mets, let us down onto the. The Rangers and the. And the Knicks.

[Danny G]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

Basketball and hockey are on the horizon. So there's something to be said about that.

[Steve Covino]

I feel like I'm all alone now, in the mist.

[Rich Davis]

Would you be inclined to. If they both advance, would you want to go? Brewers, Dodgers out here. Go. Go check it out live. Or is that something you like chilling at home for?

[Danny G]

I'd probably chill at home for. Yeah, they, you know, and they played in. What was it, 2018.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

I had a buddy who asked me, said I may be able to get tickets. And I was like, yeah, I'll go. And then I don't know if I really loved the idea. And then he said, I don't have a ticket for you. So then I was like, oh, I absolutely want to go.

[Podcast Announcer]

Yes, exactly.

[Steve Covino]

But how could you not root for a team that's never won a World Series? They made it, what, in the 80s?

[Danny G]

1982. Yeah, cardinals were in. The Cardinals.

[Steve Covino]

So that's the only team. And that was what? Like, was that even Robin Yeo era?

[Danny G]

Yeah, it was 82.

[Steve Covino]

Okay, so it was Robin Yeo era. Early Paul Molitor era of the brewers, they haven't seen the World Series since then, so that the storyline alone is intriguing. What pulls you in?

[Rich Davis]

You want to get more pulled in? Watch. Put the Google this. We'll look up the speech that Yelich gave to the.

[Steve Covino]

I love that guy.

[Rich Davis]

Gave to the team.

[Steve Covino]

I love that guy. I think he's a great dude. I think he's a great comeback story. He has a hot mom. We've met him. We've interviewed him. He's a likable guy.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, he is.

[Danny G]

I've always also felt that this is unfair because I, and I've said this on the show, I'm very unfair to the Minnesota Twins because they won two World Series titles. Right. When I was in the, in the prime of loving sports. Like, I remember World Series prior to that. But when you're really grasping it, it was 1987. I would have been 10 at the time. Then they went again in 1991. I think the same thing with the Blue Jays. I think the Blue Jays are a great story, but there was a time.

[Rich Davis]

In the league, you're thinking like, back to back. Come on.

[Danny G]

Yes, Exactly. The early 90s where they were the.

[Rich Davis]

Team that touch them all, Joe.

[Danny G]

Not you couldn't beat, but they would get the best players. Now, the brewers didn't treat Paul Molitor great on the way out. So he goes to Toronto and wins. And maybe that would be a reason, but there were times where the brewers were battling in the AL east with Toronto. Like, Toronto was a hated team to me. I didn't like the Blue Jays.

[Rich Davis]

Over 30 years ago. It doesn't feel like it, but it's over 30 years ago. Touch them all, Joe. They go get Ricky Henderson, they get Roger Clemens. They, you know, that's a different world.

[Steve Covino]

You know, there's one more. Kadeem Hardison style. Kadeem Hardison style. Different world. But there's one more layer to this question, and we'll leave it to you, Fox Sports Radio Nation. If you're one of those, my team's out, so I tune out. But how about players? We mentioned Yelich, right? Good dude. He's been the face of this organization now for a long time. But on the flip side, what about guys like Bryce Harper, man, like that guy? You're not rooting for a player like him.

[Rich Davis]

Bryce never won. Keep in mind, ball player.

[Steve Covino]

He knows ball.

[Rich Davis]

He wants to dc. And then that's when the Nationals won. So Bryce is still looking for.

[Steve Covino]

If you're not rooting for teams and we're using the term rooting loosely. Because we're not saying all of a sudden you change an alliance or an allegiance to a team. We're saying just for the fun of watching. Does your interest then turn to the players if you're so against teams? Because, you know, I do watch football in that way. I root for certain players. So maybe players is the answer here. But I'll tell you what, I'll make that choice tonight. My eye is on the Brewers Cubs. We'll see what happens. And enjoy it. If your team's still in it, enjoy it. Mine's not.

[Rich Davis]

And I do think Dan Byer made a great point. You not having an NFL team that you really claim as your own keeps you a little more locked in. Because I will say, once the Mets were eliminated, it was like, all right, I'm watching. But now, like, my main attention goes towards the Niners.

[Edmund]

My teenagers do this a lot in the NBA. They have favorite players like Steph and so they'll be sharing during a Warriors game. But they're Laker fans. So this generation right now, they follow different NBA players. And db I know there's some NBA news you wanted to hit.

[Danny G]

Yes, we have my breaking news. Sounder guys, let's hear it.

[Steve Covino]

Breaking news from Fox Sports.

[Danny G]

A report from ESPN says Lakers forward LeBron James will miss the next three to four weeks of action because of sciatica on his right side.

[Rich Davis]

That's old guy stuff.

[Danny G]

Yes.

[Rich Davis]

That's your back, right?

[Steve Covino]

Oh, sorry. Oh, man.

[Danny G]

That's 40 year old driver driving right.

[Rich Davis]

That's 40 something year old guy problems. That's not young guy problems from hoisting Hennessy.

[Danny G]

Have we ever seen sciatica in the parentheses of a. Of an athlete before?

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, George Blanda. It was a old report there. How tonight, who was it? Not Vita Blue who pitched? Satchel Page. Then he pitched, they say, like till he was way older than they thought.

[Steve Covino]

So.

[Danny G]

Yes.

[Rich Davis]

I don't. I don't think we've seen sciaticing quite a bit old.

[Steve Covino]

He's playing in Rockports this season. Yeah, he's playing in old sky shoes.

[Danny G]

No, the Lakers have a dish of Werther's at the end of the scores table this year. It's brand new.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, that's. You know what, Danny G. That sucks though. For Lakers fans. It does. And especially when you're hearing all this other nonsense about Amazon Prime Day and he's promoting Hennessy and he's got his decisions like, yo, dude, you're not even playing. That's a letdown. I mean, I Know he can't control that, but that is sort of a downer for anybody pumped about the season coming up in a few weeks.

[Edmund]

By the way, Rich, Satchel page was 59 years old.

[Steve Covino]

Oh, man.

[Danny G]

Yes.

[Edmund]

He played his last season.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, he doesn't throw a powder anymore. It's Metamucil.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. That's a good one.

[Edmund]

I like that.

[Rich Davis]

So, hey, the question, guys.

[Steve Covino]

Your team is out. Do you tune out? What's your rooting interest? Just to keep an eye on the game moving forward. I like the underdog story, but I can't force that to happen. When I say underdog, I mean the team that never won, the Brewers.

[Rich Davis]

What about the Mariners?

[Danny G]

Mariners have never even been to a World Series.

[Steve Covino]

I've never.

[Rich Davis]

There's a lot of great storylines.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, there's a lot of great storylines, a lot of great teams.

[Rich Davis]

I know why you don't want the Mariners, and I'll tell you why. I know, I know postseason doesn't matter with MVP voting, but I made the analogy. You know, when, you know, when you're in. Someone's in court and someone on the witness stand says some crazy stuff and the. And the judge says, oh, strike that from the record. But you're like, yeah, but we heard it. I know voting for mvp, you know, doesn't count the postseason. But if you see Cal Raleigh keep going, it's going to be in all the voters heads. So you want Cal Raleigh out?

[Steve Covino]

That's part of it. Also, like, you know, I'd rather choose an NL team. Get the alt man.

[Rich Davis]

I hear you.

[Steve Covino]

Okay, that's an AL fan. Now we get to your phone calls and remember old school when 50 hits. We do it every Thursday. Let's just say we're going to talk old school television. So start thinking about it. We'll talk some Thursday Night Football and more right here on the Covino and Rich Show.

[Rich Davis]

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[Steve Covino]

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[Steve Covino]

Ahaha. I could be here. Big Papi. Oh, the egg is loose. Ho ho ho ho. Hey hey hey. It's my guy. It's my guy.

[Rich Davis]

Guerrero.

[Steve Covino]

Where they go, I go. Be shut up, Poppy.

[Rich Davis]

Never seen a guy so not care but care at the same time. Steve Kavino over here. I don't Danny G. I don't know who's crying more. Edmund on Love is Blind or Steve Covino.

[Steve Covino]

You're gonna compare me to that guy on Love is Blind?

[Edmund]

Get out of here.

[Steve Covino]

But I will say this.

[Rich Davis]

Why won't you get with me?

[Edmund]

They're not beholden cheeks.

[Steve Covino]

Then that F that FS1 broadcast needs poppy because he brings the fun. But that's disrespectful to all the fans. To Jeter to a rock.

[Rich Davis]

Come on. They were laughing.

[Steve Covino]

It's not. It's like. That's like rubbing it in, man. Cheater wasn't. Get out of here.

[Rich Davis]

Why you such a cop? You're such a lameo. I mean, honestly, Michael, the Yankees had won and all of a sudden freaking.

[Steve Covino]

Sombreros on get out of here.

[Rich Davis]

I think it's fun.

[Steve Covino]

Get out. I see you in Cancun. Ha ha ha ha.

[Rich Davis]

Big puppy.

[Steve Covino]

Get out of my face.

[Rich Davis]

So I'm glad you're over it.

[Steve Covino]

We're Covino and Rich live from the Fox Sports radio studio. And two reminders. We're gonna do old school when 50 hits. So in 20 minutes we throw it back and reminisce. We're gonna talk some tv. We'll explain. So start thinking of some old school. Let's say start thinking of some edgy shows you grew up with. Edgy shows you grew up with.

[Rich Davis]

Think of how many Yankee fans drove home to their mom's basement last night. Saddle.

[Steve Covino]

See low blows. No. And mom, my laundry. Whatever we don't fit into today's show is going to be on over promised a brand new episode drops today. YouTube.com covinoenrichfsr join us live at 4 on the west, 7 on the east. Over promised episode 112 peaches and cream. 112 today I can tell you this. We're going to talk about is it cheating? Because today's an anniversary of cheaters. Is it cheating? We're going to go over the new rules of cheating and who might be ass. I don't think there's any surprise, but you'll find out on over promise later today.

[Rich Davis]

All right, let's go to our pal Dambai for an update. Let's see what's going on.

[Steve Covino]

DB hey, DB.

[Danny G]

Guys, the breaking news is that LeBron James is going to miss the start of the regular season for the Lakers as the forward is dealing with sciatica on his right side. The timetable put out by ESPN is that it's a three to four week injury. Three weeks from today is the day before Halloween, which would mean LeBron would miss the first five games of the season. Best case scenario, if we are going by that timetable, he dead. Coach Eric Spoelstra will take over as the head coach of USA Men's basketball as they get ready for the World cup in 2027 and the 2028 Olympics here in Los Angeles. While the annual survey by NBA.com of the league's general managers, 80% of them pick the Thunder to win the NBA title this season. Going back Dodgers trying to go back to back in baseball. They got a game for Tonight against the Phil 6 o' clock Eastern time. Harrison Bader not in the lineup for the Phillies. Dodgers replaced Tanner Scott. He's out of the NLDS roster, off of that roster and now ineligible to be on the NLCS roster. He's been replaced By Justin Robletsky brewers and Cubs 9 Eastern Time. Brewers up to one in that series. Former Red Sox outfielder Mike Greenwell died, battled cancer, passed away at the age of 62. Yeah, some sad news there. Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson missed another practice today because of his strength hamstring. Also no practice for Cardinals quarterback Kyla Murray and Brock Purdy not spotted at practice for the Niners. Patriots corner Christian Gonzalez limited in practice with his hamstring injury. Eagles and giants start week six to nine, 8:15 Eastern Time. Eagles may not have Jalen Cardia Carter. They've elevated defensive lineman Gabe Hall. Carter's dealing with a heel injury. Nicobi Dean will play for Philadelphia. Activated from the PUP list, so the linebacker expected to return tonight. Guys, back to you.

[Steve Covino]

Thank you, Dan Beyer, and rest in peace, Mike Greenwell. That's a legendary Red Sox legendary red sock in that Ellis Burks era of baseball card collecting.

[Rich Davis]

And how many Mike Greenwell's did you have for real?

[Steve Covino]

And you know, here's a fun fact that could be true. One of those things that I never heard until recently, but I read somewhere and it was probably a meme, so it has to be true.

[Rich Davis]

But that we all counted way too much on our Todd Van Poppel cards to be worth something?

[Steve Covino]

No. That Mike Greenwell and Don Mattingly were cousins.

[Rich Davis]

Really? Was that in the same rumor? Is it was that in the same rumor mill that Leaping Lanny Poffo and Macho man were brothers? And they were.

[Steve Covino]

But they were brothers. Yeah, they were brothers. They still are, I guess. But rest in peace, Mike Greenwell, definitely one of Those legendary late 80s, early 90s big names for the Red Sox.

[Rich Davis]

As we get closer to the NBA, we are going to take your phone calls on the rooting interest. I had a question for Dan Byer. As we do get closer to the NBA, is this the year with a lot of young talent now, do you think the spurs take a big step forward?

[Steve Covino]

By the way, they are not cousins, but it is a rumor.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, okay.

[Steve Covino]

Simply two former Major League Baseball players who played in the same era.

[Edmund]

But it says here they're related through family connections.

[Steve Covino]

That's. Yeah. So I knew.

[Rich Davis]

I like how all Italian people call people their cousin when it's just like a neighbor kind of. Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

But they had that connection. I never knew that, even as a Yankees fan.

[Rich Davis]

That's my uncle. Is it your uncle or your dad's friend? Yeah, my dad's friend, but we call him uncle, you know, Uncle Richie. Is this the year, guys, that the spurs take a Big step forward. I feel like it might be. I mean, I know they're still very young, but now, I mean, now that Wemby 7:5 and they drafted that a lot of dead. A lot of draft equity. Is this the year?

[Danny G]

Yeah. They're the second overall pick that took Dylan. Dylan Harper with that pick in the past draft. They acquired Darren Fox last year. In most cases, I would say yes. Like you expect them to maybe make that Oklahoma City sort of rise. But again, the west is just so loaded.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

Like, how high can you go? Maybe because of fresh legs. And other teams aren't as interested in.

[Rich Davis]

Getting a top seed, like a four or five seed. You're trying to slip in.

[Steve Covino]

I mean, sure.

[Danny G]

And they may, who knows, they may win 60 games and be right there with Oklahoma City. I just don't know how urgent some of the other teams are going to be early on in the season. Like the Mavericks. You know, you don't have Kyrie Irving. You're breaking in Cooper flag at that.

[Rich Davis]

Point, man, that's another great storyline. I think this year. You know, we got to give credit where credit. Sue, we talked about baseball's popping. I think the NBA is going to have some really interesting storylines this year.

[Danny G]

There's a realistic chance that San Antonio could just also just at the default again of. What I'm saying is I don't know if the regular season matters to the other teams when it comes to seating, but because they're so young, it may be something that could help them moving on. But I think other teams are more just trying to jockey for position for the second half of the year then going into, into the playoffs.

[Steve Covino]

I think if Wemby takes my plan of the three point finger roll, then they definitely got a shot.

[Rich Davis]

Then they're golden. All right, a couple of quick phone calls. When your team's out of it in any sport, what then becomes your answer essentially?

[Steve Covino]

Now what your rooting interest? Do you tune out or do you pick players? Or do you find an underdog story that resonates with you?

[Rich Davis]

Or the other option, like Dan Byer said, if you're into other sports, is that your cue to transition to something else? Like, yo, my team's out of it. All right, Football. All right. NBA is almost here. Hockey's almost here. Like, what is your move? Let's go to Boise and Tyler.

[Caller or Guest (Dan Byer)]

Hey, Tyler going, guys.

[Rich Davis]

What's up, man? What's your, what's your move here? What do you do?

[Caller or Guest (Dan Byer)]

So as a, as a Bills fan, lifelong Bills and Mariners guy, it's been brutal and you're living good now.

[Rich Davis]

I was gonna say Bills, Bills and Mariners.

[Steve Covino]

You're having your moment finally.

[Caller or Guest (Dan Byer)]

Finally. But as that, you know, usually baseball over in August and football season starts in August, but this year, I gotta say, you know, Mariners never ever making the World Series, definitely pulling for them as obviously as a fan. But I think people that aren't fans can lean that direction. And then as far as, you know, the other NBC, Bills, Bill's Lions, super bowl and maybe like series with the Mariners and the brewers would be pretty sweet.

[Rich Davis]

I think that is the number one answer. If we were playing Family Feud and Steve Harvey came out with here his big mustache, I think the number one answer on the board would be people root for the team that perhaps the franchise has never won. That's always the answer.

[Steve Covino]

That's where my. Yeah, that's where my heart goes. Give him one. Let's be happy about something.

[Rich Davis]

He's right. Because remember last year everyone's number one answer was come on, Lions and Bills.

[Edmund]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

And I think the answer now would really be Brewers, Mariners would be.

[Steve Covino]

Do you remember what I said to you? The ultimate fantasy. Josh Allen hoists the trophy and he thanks all the fans that were there in the 90s and hey, Jim Kelly and Scott Norwood, all you guys are forgiven. And then, hey, you do it for everybody. That's your ultimate AI video out of it. I'm saying like if your team's out of it, you're rooting for the people that sort of, I don't know, not deserve it, but that have been waiting for it.

[Edmund]

We talked about it when the Cubs finally won. There were grandparents where people were like, I'm so happy my grandfather lasted long enough to see this in other people's grandparents died just before they won.

[Steve Covino]

So one more phone call on that's going to happen.

[Rich Davis]

I feel like that's going to happen to me. I feel like the Mets are going to go on 100 year streak of not winning the World Series and it'll be like a 90 something year old guy like, come on, let's go Metchies. Well then all of a sudden I'm going to die at 98 years old in September, a month before the World.

[Steve Covino]

Series theory that you've always been the bad luck charm to the Mets. You've always been there.

[Edmund]

Mush it might send a hitman after.

[Steve Covino]

Rich, wrap it up with who we got here in Seattle.

[Edmund]

Said he's the governor.

[Steve Covino]

The governor in Seattle. What's going on, man? I got nothing against your Your Mariners. I remember battling your Mariners in 95.

[Rich Davis]

Though you did say their, their, their home run celebration is lame. I think it's cool with the Trident.

[Steve Covino]

I don't like any of those celebrations.

[Rich Davis]

What's up, Seattle?

[Caller or Guest (Dan Byer)]

Hey, a little background real quick. I grew up in Detroit, Michigan. Spent the first 14 years of my life there. And then my dad dragged me out to Seattle, so, so I root for all teams of Detroit. So it kind of tears our family apart. All my kids are Seattle fans. Whether it's football, whether it's baseball, whether it's even hockey, what's cracking. But my take is once the Detroit team is out, I stop rooting. So I just stop watching the games. I can't get into it if my team's not there. So big game tomorrow night. Let's go Tigers. And I wanted to say I love your guys show. I usually only catch the last hour, but the government shutdown has me on vacation right now. So I'm getting to listen to you all day and keep up the great work. Fell in love.

[Rich Davis]

Thanks, man. Hopefully everything works out with your job and we appreciate it, brother. But you know what? If the Mariners do be your Tigers, your kids will be happy.

[Steve Covino]

Look at it that way. Yeah. So that's a winner.

[Rich Davis]

Someone will be happy, right?

[Steve Covino]

Thanks again. I appreciate the call. And thank you FOX Sports Radio Nation for hearing us out. Now next we do something called old school. When 50 hits. We do it every Thursday. We throw it back and reminisce. And let's just say today is an anniversary. We'll fill you in on everything when we get back. But something started today changed. Today changed how we watch tv. Changed our expectations. It changed how your parents monitored you and what you were viewing.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, that's true.

[Steve Covino]

Start thinking about edgy programming. The edgy naughty things you watched as a kid growing up. What stands out? What are some of your memories there? And we'll get you involved. Next. 877-99-Nox is Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio.

[Danny G]

You.

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[Steve Covino]

You know what's funny about our conversation yesterday about razzing like people love to lean into like Yankee Stadium spirit Halloween. Now if you go to my social media page, like my Facebook page too, you see all these people like hey, Yankees released their city connect jerseys. It's like a trash. All right? Only one team wins. So shut your pie hole. If it's not your team, then shut up.

[Rich Davis]

What stage of grief is the spot?

[Steve Covino]

What is he doing now?

[Rich Davis]

Only one team wins.

[Danny G]

Anger or bargaining by the by.

[Rich Davis]

Bargaining. He's bargaining.

[Steve Covino]

Reasoning phase.

[Danny G]

Oh, this is bargaining. Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

Only one team wins.

[Edmund]

Bargaining.

[Rich Davis]

Only one team wins. So I guess it's not too bad.

[Steve Covino]

No, no, no, no, no, no. I think it's a failure. I'm embarrassed by the Yankees. I'm disgusted. In fact, I think they stink. They deserve to lose. I. I love the game that the Blue Jays play. I just don't like them.

[Rich Davis]

All right.

[Steve Covino]

But only one team wins. Relax, slow your roll. And I can't wait to see who.

[Rich Davis]

It is, you know, to make you not suffer anymore. Let's do our tire act play of the day.

[Edmund]

And I didn't pick a Yankees clip.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. Live from the Fox sports radio studio, it's time for our play of the day. And Danny, you could cover your ears for this one. Schwaber hitting bombs.

[Steve Covino]

He's from the right side. That ball's great. Deep to right field.

[Caller or Guest (Dan Byer)]

Hernandez doesn't even move.

[Steve Covino]

It is long gone.

[Caller or Guest (Dan Byer)]

It's off the roof of the pavilion.

[Rich Davis]

In right field, Kyle Schwaber.

[Steve Covino]

And with a lightning strike, the Phillies tie it up at one man moonshot.

[Rich Davis]

Well in about 20 minutes or so game four going to get going at Doyer stadium. That was courtesy of Phillies radio network Tire rack play the day. And for over 40 years Tirex been helping customers find the right tires for how, what and where they drive ship.

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[Edmund]

Guys are one minute early for this.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. Holy moly. But should I just alert all the affiliates? Should I just speak real slow for a minute? No, let's do it.

[Rich Davis]

It's like that rare occasion where you're actually early with your wife for a dinner reservation. Like we're here for the 7 o', clock, sir, it's 6. 55.

[Steve Covino]

Oh, well, like I said, something happened on this day in 1986. We called it the fourth TV network back in 86. We call it old school when 50 hits. Let's do it.

[Danny G]

There's a search.

[Steve Covino]

Yay.

[Edmund]

What we gonna do right here is.

[Rich Davis]

Go back.

[Steve Covino]

Back into time, throwing it back for a Thursday. Old school when 50 hits at 50. After C and R give you the time capsule topic and we reminisce.

[Danny G]

Taking.

[Steve Covino]

You back to when you were a little pumpkin pie haircutted freak in your corduroys who ran your parachute pants.

[Rich Davis]

Can I give you a little perspective? What was going on on this day in 86? Besides what you're gonna get to. This is when the Mets were in the National League championship against Mike Scott. Remember how unhittable he was? The legend of Mike Scott in 86.

[Steve Covino]

This is before you cursed the team.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, this is before I cursed the Mets. And today was the day Phantom of the Opera opened on Broadway. So Andrew Lloyd Webber. So we're talking about long time ago. The 80s feel like yesterday, but man. Coming up on 40 years. I was born that year. 86 Sam, huh? Yep.

[Edmund]

Look at that. Media changed forever that day.

[Steve Covino]

The world changed forever because Iowa Sam was born on this day. In 1986, Fox debuted as TV's fourth major network after NBC, CBS and ABC. And when you think back to the early Fox days, you think about them trying to find their place on the dial.

[Rich Davis]

Now it was a couple of years until the main shows really came out. Fox just sort of launched on this day. But when you think of those early days of Fox, when they really became.

[Edmund]

A player, they had to cut out their own lane.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, they really did.

[Steve Covino]

Fox operated differently than the other three in that only three hours of the day were dedicated to the network. It had a rocky start, but Fox became the most watched network during 2007. 2008. In 2019, the network was acquired by the Disney company. So that's the history. But it started 86 on this day. But if you think back to then, they had to differentiate themselves from everybody else. The way they did that was with edgy programming.

[Rich Davis]

And just for the record, people love to be like, oh, you guys are affiliated with no Fox Sports Radio. Just for the Record?

[Edmund]

No.

[Rich Davis]

No affiliation with Fox News, Fox Sports 1, or like NFL on Fox.

[Edmund]

It's like how Mattingly and Greenwell are cousins.

[Danny G]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

Like where there's no real affiliation other than the name and the brand, like distinct.

[Steve Covino]

Cuz I have a question.

[Rich Davis]

How does one in the 80s carve out, like, we want to be a network channel?

[Steve Covino]

That seems like that's like bedrock stuff.

[Rich Davis]

Like, how do you even get to.

[Steve Covino]

Become a network channel? Sort of the Wild West, I guess. Enough money to do it.

[Rich Davis]

It was really interesting. And I'm not trying to like, I'm being serious when I say when you were a kid before cable TV was in every household and streaming, we all remember back, you'd flip the TV channels on, like on the actual. What was it for you guys? What was Fox for you guys? Fox 5.

[Steve Covino]

Fox 5.

[Rich Davis]

For us it was 8. Out here it's 11. Yeah, it was Fox 5 New York. And I remember like CBS was 2, NBC was 4.

[Steve Covino]

And no matter what, NBC for us was 7.

[Rich Davis]

Whatever city you lived in, they were missing channels. Like maybe three was nothing because three is what you put your TV on for, VCRs and stuff.

[Danny G]

Yeah, the.

[Rich Davis]

They were missing channels. So I guess Fox just found a way in different markets to fill that niche.

[Danny G]

We didn't have a Fox affiliate for years. And so some of that programming, like Beverly Hills 90210 at some point had to be aired at like midnight on a Saturday night or Sunday morning. And then when the NFL got the package, we still didn't have a Fox affiliate. So they had to figure out a way to put Packer games on. And they ended up being on the ABC affiliate.

[Steve Covino]

Now correct me if I'm wrong, Fox, again carving its own lane as a little edgy, did their whole Tracey Ullman thing, which spawned the Simpsons. And they were pushing the envelope because they were edgy. And Bart was talking back to his parents. Oh my God.

[Edmund]

Married with Children.

[Steve Covino]

That was the other one. Married with Children was way edgy.

[Rich Davis]

Let me hit you up with one more. In Living Color.

[Edmund]

Oh, yeah. So raise your hand if your mom ever said, I don't know about this Married with Children show.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, well, that's.

[Edmund]

Sure, you should be watching this. And she'd make us turn the channel.

[Steve Covino]

It was borderline inappropriate, especially for back then.

[Rich Davis]

It was my dad's favorite show. And I like, he was like. He let me watch with him. Yeah, but it was, it was definitely edgy. Married with Children was definitely pushing the envelope. You said this. I remember getting in trouble in school, Danny, because I wore a I'm Bart Simpson, who the hell are you?

[Steve Covino]

Shirt.

[Rich Davis]

I had to turn it inside out.

[Steve Covino]

Al Bundy went to what strip club did he go to? The Jiggly Room.

[Rich Davis]

When could we go there?

[Steve Covino]

Hooters. Hooters. Yum, yum, yum. Right, so way inappropriate. Based on Fox launching on this day in 86. What other cartoons, radio shows, movies shows, what were considered edgy back when you were little that you remember sneaking when, I dunno, the parents went to bed.

[Rich Davis]

You know, my wife, her mom wouldn't let her watch MTV or VH1 or anything and thought it was all like, the date devil.

[Steve Covino]

VH1 is the devil.

[Rich Davis]

Like she was the water boy mom. Right.

[Steve Covino]

So what were the edgy things you tuned into when the parents left the house or, I don't know, when it was late at night, maybe too violent. It takes. It takes me back to the skin days too late. All right, so your phone calls next old school 150 hits right here on FOX Sports Radio.

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