C&R - Broken By a Player & LeBron Debate

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Covino & Rich: "Broken By a Player & LeBron Debate"

Date: December 4, 2025
Hosts: Steve Covino & Rich Davis, with Spot, Danny Beyer, Big Mike, and special segments

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Episode Overview

This episode of the Covino & Rich segment on The Dan Patrick Show dives into sports and pop culture with a humorous, fast-paced vibe. The main themes include memorable sports moments that "break" players, debates on superstar chemistry, the impact of global stardom (specifically Bad Bunny and Taylor Swift), and the controversy over LeBron’s scoring streak. Mixed in are the signature "Words of Wisdom," interactive giveaways, and plenty of banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Holiday Family Dynamics & Words of Wisdom (06:47–08:31)

• Big Mike's Words of Wisdom:
  "During the holidays, family teaches us patience, love, and how to strategically avoid certain conversations."
  (07:25)
• The team jokes about starting “fights” at family gatherings by bringing up controversial topics, and how Rich is infamous for dropping “debate bombs” for his own amusement.
• Rich: "'You drop little time bombs at family gatherings and you get a kick out of it. But not everyone lets it roll off their shoulders.'" (08:09)
• This segment sets the episode's playful, self-aware tone and opens a discussion about navigating tricky conversations during the holidays—a metaphor connected later to team chemistry in sports.

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2. Bad Bunny, Taylor Swift, and the Super Bowl Halftime Debate (08:42–11:45)

• Bad Bunny overtakes Taylor Swift as the world's most-streamed artist on Spotify, sparking debate about NFL’s globalization ambitions.
• The hosts point out that backlash against Bad Bunny’s selection for the Super Bowl Halftime Show is generational:
  Rich: “The lame-o answer of ‘you never heard of him’ makes you sort of look like an ass clown. Now, you don't need to be... familiar,” (09:52) but recognize that pop culture moves on.
• Steve: "When she's such a big name and Bad Bunny's passing her, that says a lot." (11:05)
• The hosts tie this into broader sports trends, noting how major leagues prep for the next generation, not catering to older fans.

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3. Broken By a Player: Devin Williams, Pete Alonso, and MLB Closers (14:13–18:28)

• Devin Williams, once a top MLB closer, struggled after giving up a pivotal home run to Pete Alonso. Now he joins the Mets, the very team that “broke” him.
• Rich: "Did Pete Alonso break Devin Williams’ confidence? Because ever since that postseason home run... just never regain that composure." (15:14)
• The discussion expands to the “closer’s curse” in MLB, New York market pressure, and how some players struggle outside their comfort zones.
  • Steve: “Sometimes people don’t recover. Their ego’s bruised, they get in their head, they're not the same." (17:44)
• The segment reflects on resilience in pro sports and parallels with individuals' recovery after public failures.

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4. Superstar Team Chemistry (18:28–23:45)

• Rumors of poor chemistry between Juan Soto and Francisco Lindor prompt a larger conversation about team dynamics.
• Steve: “In some ways... they're rivals and they have egos and they both want to be leaders of that team and... represent not only themselves, but their... nations.” (20:45)
• The hosts argue that having two stars isn’t always harmonious—even if from similar backgrounds—and that sometimes a “clubhouse guy” like Marcus Simeon is signed as a buffer.
• Lesson for any organization: “Don’t always think about the stats you see on paper because there’s so much more—especially... over 162 games in baseball... people gotta like each other.” (22:46)
• Adds real-world resonance: workplace and sports chemistry need intentional cultivation.

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5. Midweek Major: Celebrity News and Hot Takes (30:31–38:54)

a. Travis Kelce & Taylor Swift – “No Arguments” & Stadium Restrictions (31:26–33:51)

• Travis Kelce claims he and Swift have never argued; hosts and listeners skeptical.
  • Steve: “Anyone talking about how they don’t fight... It’s BS or they haven’t gotten there yet. That’s life. People disagree.” (32:22)
• Kelce asks Chiefs not to play Taylor’s music or show her at the stadium—a move to keep focus on the team.
  • Rich: “It can be distracting. I like the sentiment.” (33:44)

b. FIFA World Cup Draw’s Star-Studded Event (34:31–36:22)

• The North American FIFA World Cup group draw features Tom Brady, Shaq, Kevin Hart, and more—noting the scale and showbiz spectacle.
  • Steve: “With those names... big event sounds pretty major.” (35:35)

c. Max Kellerman Opens Up About Stephen A. Smith (37:23–38:54)

• Max Kellerman discusses tension and lack of chemistry with Stephen A. Smith on First Take.
  • Steve: “Stephen A. made it seem like Max was bringing the show down... I thought Max always brought the heat and challenged Stephen A.” (38:10)
• Explores how public personas and real relationships don’t always align, especially in debate-driven sports media.

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6. LeBron James and the Double-Digit Points Streak Debate (44:09–48:13)

• Controversy as LeBron stays in “garbage time” to keep his 10+ point game streak alive.
  • Steve: “If you’re a team dude, sit it out. Now it seems like the streak is getting in the way. Sometimes when it ends, it’s a relief for everybody.” (44:46)
• The panel weighs whether individual records should ever supersede team focus.
  • Big Mike: “Can he just sit and find his role and be okay with it? The Lakers can go far if he’ll be that guy.” (47:24)
  • Rich: “If the Lakers didn’t have the third best record... I’d say what are we doing here? But I think it’s ode to LeBron.” (46:15)
• Whimsical comparison: letting go of the streak, like letting go of LeBron’s hairline.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Big Mike (Words of Wisdom):
  “During the holidays, family teaches us patience, love, and how to strategically avoid certain conversations.” (07:25 & 07:25 repeated)
• Rich (on family debate):
  “You drop little time bombs at family gatherings and you get a kick out of it... I just, I'm like, oh, let me see what everyone thinks. Troll...” (08:09)
• Steve (on Bad Bunny’s success):
  “When she's such a big name and Bad Bunny's passing her, that says a lot.” (11:05)
• Rich (on the generation gap):
  “Fans... just don’t like to understand when they’re not in the demo of what someone's going after. It’s like baseball... All the old heads... get all up in arms.” (11:14)
• Steve (on athletes recovering from big moments):
  “Sometimes people don’t recover. Their ego’s bruised, they get in their head, they're not the same.” (17:44)
• Steve (on chemistry):
  “People gotta like each other.” (22:46)
• Steve (on relationship ‘no arguments’ claim):
  “That’s B.S.” (33:29)
• Steve (on LeBron's streak):
  “I think just like his hairline, he's got to let the streak go. Let and move forward.” (46:28)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 06:47 – Big Mike’s Words of Wisdom (Family, holidays, and communication)
• 08:42 – Bad Bunny/Taylor Swift and Super Bowl Halftime debate
• 14:13 – “Broken by a Player”: Devin Williams, Pete Alonso, and the emotional toll on athletes
• 18:28 – Superstar chemistry: Juan Soto & Francisco Lindor, Marcus Simeon as a buffer
• 30:31 – "Midweek Major" celebrity headlines: Kelce/Swift, FIFA World Cup draw, Max Kellerman vs. Stephen A. Smith
• 44:09 – LeBron James' scoring streak controversy

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Episode Tone and Style

• Playful, irreverent, and peppered with fast, sharp banter.
• Hosts often break the fourth wall, tease each other, and invite listeners in with trivia and live giveaways.
• Sports insights are accessible and blend with relatable pop culture references and life lessons.

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Takeaways

• Modern sports is as much about culture and personalities as it is about stats. Chemistry, marketability, and adaptability shape careers and franchises.
• Generational shifts are inevitable, both in fandom and the game. Stop fighting it—embrace what’s next.
• Records matter, but not at the expense of chemistry and team goals. Whether in sports, family, or work, collaboration and communication are more valuable than ego-driven milestones.
• A little humor and willingness to debate (even playfully) is part of thriving—on the air, at home, or on the field.

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For fans who missed the episode: this summary captures the energy, insight, and signature humor Covino & Rich bring—blending on-field sagas with off-field lessons, and always inviting you to laugh, argue, and remember: it’s only sports, but it matters.

Transcript

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[Steve Covino]

Hey, thanks for listening to the Covino Enrich Podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday from 5 to 7 Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.

[Rich Davis]

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[Steve Covino]

Wow. So much to get through this hour. We got midweek. Major.

[Rich Davis]

How are we gonna do this?

[Steve Covino]

Spotty's gonna give you the biggest stories in sports and pop culture. Are they midweek or major? Some of these stories are juicy, though. I can tell you one of them is major to me already.

We got Mike's Wednesday words of wisdom, which means giving away prizes. Our CNR on FSR Turbo football, so stick around for that. We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studio. Sesame street helped raise all of us. Now it's our turn. Donate this holiday [e-mail] because the world needs sesame and Sesame needs you.

[Rich Davis]

What I'm thinking about as we're just hanging on.

If you've been with us for years, you know this story. But if you're new, Covino very close to his Uncle Joey.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. He's like an older brother. My mom's younger brother.

[Rich Davis]

Mom's younger brother. But when your mom has a younger brother that's significantly younger and you're the firstborn, like, yeah, like you said, more of an older brother.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

Uncle Joe back in the day bought an absurd amount of Tickle Me Elmos thinking, you know, remember during the rage of Tickle Me Elmos?

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. This has to be the late 1900s. Hundreds, though, right? Yeah, because people were freaking out about them. They were like the big thing.

[Rich Davis]

But Joey bought it slightly after the big Tickle Me Elmo boom.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. He thought he was gonna make millions and.

[Rich Davis]

And instead he was just stuck with, like 100. Tickle me. Oh, my.

[Steve Covino]

I think he still has. Yeah. I swear to you, I'll be worth something someday. I think he still has them. He couldn't get rid of them.

[Rich Davis]

Hey, Steve.

[Steve Covino]

I'm pretty sure he still has them all. He's like, yeah, I'm gonna make a fortune sitting on a gold mine. He's sitting on a pile of Tickle Me Elmos.

[Rich Davis]

Beanie Babies, I'm sure. True story.

[Steve Covino]

You know what?

[Rich Davis]

We got a lot to get to this hour. We're going to talk a lot of NFL. There's some NFL stuff I want to get to. A baseball story. I know it's the off season, but I think there's a baseball story worth investigating.

[Steve Covino]

You said you had a plan.

[Rich Davis]

A plan.

[Steve Covino]

You said you had a plan. Yes, you did. You said, I got a plan. You said, here's what we're going to do.

[Rich Davis]

You said all this. It's like it was all laid out in my head. Yeah. Remember?

[Steve Covino]

In my head all laid out. You forgot what was up.

[Rich Davis]

What did Mike Tyson once say?

[Big Mike]

Yeah, the on air light came on.

[Rich Davis]

And everyone has a plan until you get punched in the face.

[Steve Covino]

Who punched you in the face?

[Rich Davis]

I don't know.

[Big Mike]

I think Rich has a plan until the on air light turns life.

[Rich Davis]

Punch me in the face. Do you guys need me to punch.

[Danny Beyer]

You in the face right now?

[Rich Davis]

It's Big Mike. Why don't we do this? I have a plan.

[Steve Covino]

Oh, there's the plan.

[Danny Beyer]

I'll punch you in the face right now if you want the plan.

[Big Mike]

Omaha, Omaha. Call an audible.

[Rich Davis]

The plan is Big Mike, who runs this place, who is going to give us his words of wisdom. If you could repeat them verbatim, you're going to win a Cavino Rich Nerf turbo football. Then we're going to talk some NFL and some baseball. How about that?

[Steve Covino]

Let's do it. Let's do it. I have. I have another question too that has to do with everyone's Spotify wrapped and. And some music, too. So I'll try to squeeze that in there.

[Rich Davis]

All right, let's do this. I was. Sam, hit it.

It's time for the guy that runs this place.

[Danny Beyer]

Just for clarification, guys, Big Mike does not run this place. He is not in charge of everything. He has no power over really, anybody here. He does not run this place.

[Rich Davis]

It's Big Mike's words of wisdom on a Wednesday. Mike, does it hurt your feelings when you hear Dan Beyer say that? It does, actually.

[Danny Beyer]

Dan Beyer makes me sad.

[Rich Davis]

I mean, if we didn't go back.

[Danny Beyer]

So far, I guess I can forgive.

[Rich Davis]

Him for it because, you know.

[Danny Beyer]

Do you want to know the real background of that intro?

[Rich Davis]

Yes.

[Danny Beyer]

I thought I was cutting three different versions, so that's why you hear, like, a long pause and they just included the whole thing. He does not.

I thought I was giving them different options, like, and then all of a.

[Rich Davis]

Sudden, the first time I heard it.

[Danny Beyer]

Like, I'm like, why am I still talking?

[Rich Davis]

We love it. Danbuyer.

[Danny Beyer]

But all I can think is Dan Beyer hates me.

[Steve Covino]

Dan Beyer really leaned into that.

[Rich Davis]

It's the holiday season. Lots of love here, Big Mike. Speaking of the holiday season, we have a holiday themed words of wisdom for you today.

[Steve Covino]

Everybody ready?

[Rich Davis]

Yes.

[Big Mike]

Let it breathe.

[Rich Davis]

During the holidays, family teaches us patience, love, and how to strategically avoid certain conversations.

Mike, you know what? My wife.

[Steve Covino]

I felt like that was an early gong. Like, he gonged you out like the Gong Show. Yeah. Yeah, that was good. We're done.

[Big Mike]

He Sent you home like a clipper. Sent.

[Rich Davis]

Chris, Paul, Mike. One more time. One more time.

[Danny Beyer]

One more time.

[Steve Covino]

I felt like there was more. That's it.

[Big Mike]

All right. Turn his mic up just a little bit.

[Rich Davis]

Here we go.

[Danny Beyer]

Thank you.

[Rich Davis]

During the holidays, family teaches us patience, love, and how to strategically avoid certain conversations.

[Steve Covino]

Wow. Wow. If you could repeat that word for word, you take home the sweetest stocking stuffer of all time. The CNR and FSR coveted brand new and improved Turbo football.

[Rich Davis]

You know, I've been accused of something that Mike sort of points out in his words of wisdom. I always thought that, you know, because we debate for a living. Danny G. Like, I would imagine in the studio, we could have. We could have good debates about mostly anything. And at the end of it, be all cool, right? A lot of families don't act that way. I was accused by my wife. She's like, you drop little time bombs at family gatherings and you get a kick out of it. But not everyone lets it roll off their shoulders. I'll go up to my wife's family, be like, man, what do you guys think about, I don't know, Trump and this or, hey, what do you guys think about transgenders in bathrooms or something? And I just walk away and I watch and she's like, what are you doing?

[Steve Covino]

Wow.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, don't do that.

[Steve Covino]

Sounds conniving.

[Big Mike]

Rich is a fight starter, but I.

[Rich Davis]

But in my mind, like, I just, I'm like, oh, let me see what everyone thinks. Troll, but people do not have good debates.

[Steve Covino]

Speaking of controversial subject matter, what do you think?

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, I'll bring up.

[Steve Covino]

No, I got something. Just, you know, while we get the phones going to see who wins this prize. Bad Bunny is in the news today. Bad Bunny. Because it's all year end wrap up top this and that of the year.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

Bad Bunny surpassed Taylor Swift as the most streamed artist in the world.

So with that knowledge, is everybody okay with the super bowl halftime show right now?

[Rich Davis]

Well, I don't know if that's going to change minds, but I think what it will do, though, doesn't it give perspective, though? But yeah, it does. What it does is for all the people that are like, Bad Bunny. I don't know any of his music or like, he's not even speaking English. Listen, we've talked about how the NFL is trying to reach that global international audience more than ever. All the games and foreign lands and how you heard Dan Byer talking about the numbers. Thanksgiving Day, almost 100 million people were watching football teams, right?

[Steve Covino]

So Bad Bunny Global star, Spotify's most streamed artist. That's a big achievement, surpassing Taylor Swift. Well, hold on though.

[Rich Davis]

What if, what if some of that.

[Steve Covino]

Was due to the announcement and then.

[Rich Davis]

They go back and they're like, oh.

[Steve Covino]

I'm going to get acquainted with, with that Bunny.

[Rich Davis]

And you know what? Then I'm sure then good for you.

[Steve Covino]

But I'm sure that's part of it.

[Rich Davis]

But I was saying, I do think the lame O answer of you never heard of him makes you sort of look like an ass clown. Now, you don't need to be, don't need to be familiar. Like, I'll be honest, I'm not familiar with Bad Bunny's music. But that.

[Steve Covino]

And by the way, Rolling Stone today, like I said, year end wrap up countdown, this and that. Rolling Stone announced his last album as the number one album of the year in the top 100 albums. And that's a matter of how much credit you give these magazines and these lists. But still, you have to say, now if you were the guy that's like, bad who? Bugs Bunny? What the f. It does put things in perspective of, hey, maybe you just didn't know and maybe there's more to life than just you, and maybe we give it a shot. Like, does it change your opinion? Is the question I'm posing here. People are surpassing America's sweetheart, Taylor Swift. In a Taylor Swift related story, Kelsey put the smackdown and told the PA guy at the stadium, no more Taylor Swift at the stadium because he's a teen guy. Did you hear that story? Maybe Spots got some of that in midweek major.

[Spot (Midweek Major Host)]

Oh, just cursed out loud. Sounds like a great story for midweek major, Steve.

[Steve Covino]

Well, hey, it ties in.

[Rich Davis]

Spot just went. We'll talk.

[Steve Covino]

Hey, we'll discuss further later.

[Rich Davis]

Stick to sports.

[Steve Covino]

Doesn't mean we can't talk about it. It is sports. So Taylor Swift, my point is, when she's such a big name and bad bunnies passing her, that says a lot.

[Rich Davis]

No doubt, no doubt. I think fans of anything sports music particularly, they. They just don't like to understand when they're not in the demo of what someone's going after.

[Steve Covino]

Right?

[Rich Davis]

It's like baseball. We always talk about how anytime they make any rule change in baseball, all the old heads like the Mad Dog Russos of the world get all up in arms about like, oh, have they changed in the rules? Or, you know, they're talking about Bob Cousy in the NBA, like, yeah, why.

[Steve Covino]

Aren'T you catering to me, Rob the wrong way?

[Rich Davis]

No offense. Like, Our parents generation. No one worries about you anymore because they're worried about the future generation. So simple as that. All right, let's get a contestant, see if they could get Mike's words of wisdom, and we'll move along.

[Big Mike]

Yes, sir. We're going to start in Phoenix.

[Rich Davis]

Virgil.

[Big Mike]

Virgil, you're up first.

[Rich Davis]

What's up, Virgil? Hey, how you guys doing? What's up, buddy?

[Steve Covino]

Word for word.

[Big Mike]

Yep. Okay. Let the music breathe here for a second.

[Rich Davis]

All right, so during the holidays, family teaches us patience, love, and how to avoid. Strategically avoid certain conversations.

[Steve Covino]

So close.

[Big Mike]

So close.

[Steve Covino]

Sorry, Virgil, man. He tried to go back and fix it. He was like, no, he's like the nervous southerner.

[Big Mike]

Try next Wednesday, brother. All right, we're gonna go to Reno now.

[Rich Davis]

You know what Virgil's doing in his car right now? Sitting in the steering wheel like, damn it. He ain't no man himself.

[Steve Covino]

His kid's like, dad, you blew him.

[Big Mike]

Screaming out curse words the way spot was a moment ago.

[Rich Davis]

Drew and Reno, you got a chance now, bro. What's up? What's up, gentlemen? He all right. So whenever you want me to go, yo, go ahead.

[Big Mike]

During the holidays, family teaches us patience.

[Rich Davis]

Love, and how to strategically avoid certain conversations.

[Big Mike]

Yeah, I mean.

[Danny Beyer]

I mean, he said strategically.

[Big Mike]

A little.

[Rich Davis]

Like, is that really that hard of.

[Steve Covino]

A word to say?

[Rich Davis]

Strategic.

[Big Mike]

Hey, people get nerves when they're on the air.

[Steve Covino]

That was great.

[Rich Davis]

He did get it.

[Big Mike]

Drew, you are a winner. And when the shipment of turbo balls come in, we are gonna mail one to you there in Reno.

[Steve Covino]

Way to go, Drew.

[Rich Davis]

He.

Congrats, buddy.

[Steve Covino]

Thank you, Drew. Appreciate it. Your chance to win. We always give away prizes.

[Danny Beyer]

We'll do.

[Steve Covino]

We do it tomorrow. Danny G for prizes Thursday.

[Big Mike]

Well, we do old school when 50 hits on Thursdays.

[Steve Covino]

If you follow us on YouTube, I was just gonna say Covino and Rich FSR. And Danny G hits you up. Covino and Rich FSR. You'll win a prize, but thank you, Drew. We appreciate it.

[Big Mike]

Tell you what. I'll pick somebody in the chat on our YouTube channel tomorrow.

[Rich Davis]

Nice. Perfect. Fantastic Question for you. I want to throw something by you, Kavino, that.

We didn't print, we didn't plan our pre show meeting, but you'll be able to roll with it. I'm up. I'm not catching you off guard. Off guard like those clippers announcers the other day.

[Steve Covino]

You trying to ambush me, bro?

[Rich Davis]

I trying to ambush?

[Steve Covino]

Trying to expose me.

[Big Mike]

Got some trivia for you, Mike.

[Steve Covino]

A lot of acrimony in that.

[Spot (Midweek Major Host)]

That organization.

[Rich Davis]

So I Was going to say Clippers not having a good week.

I know you and I wanted to talk about Devin Williams and how he's now a New York Met, but the Mets are sort of the team that broke him.

[Steve Covino]

Oh, he's a Met. Because I wrote something different on my paper. Devin Williams is a B.

[Rich Davis]

You do you put six eyes.

[Steve Covino]

He's a B.

One and done. They changed a policy for this guy. He sucks all year and then he leaves the Yankees.

[Rich Davis]

He doesn't leave the Yankees. There's a deal was made.

[Steve Covino]

Oh, he's a Met, you say? I thought he was a big biatch.

[Rich Davis]

So he is one of the best closers in baseball.

[Steve Covino]

No, he's a middleman at best.

[Rich Davis]

Bebop boop, beep bop boop boop. He was one of the best closers in baseball. Pete Alonzo hits a three run home run off of him. I'm sorry, Dan Buyer, brewers fan. But in that moment, Devin Williams was arguably like the closer of the year.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

At the time and the sentiment, it was almost like did Pete Alonzo break Devin Williams confidence? Because ever since that postseason home run goes to the Yanks just didn't just never regain that composure he had a few seasons ago.

[Steve Covino]

It was like when Roofnett o' door hit Bautista in the face. And now you're never the same.

[Rich Davis]

And now he goes to the team that broke him. So there's something, there's something interesting about going to the team that was sort of the team that hurt you a little bit. Maybe it'll be healing for him and then cathartic. So did there's a part of him. Do you think he wants Pete to stay? Because Pete Alonzo is one of those guys that the Mets, Mets fans want but the organization and David Stearns might not retain. You think Devin Williams wants to play alongside the guy that broke him?

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, he doesn't have to face him again.

[Danny Beyer]

You actually think he broke him. Do you think that that's a Met?

[Rich Davis]

It's slightly.

[Danny Beyer]

I mean it's very selfish on Rich's part is what I'm saying. To think that this is a Mets thing. Like, like this hasn't like happened with CL closers before they go to New York and they lose their stuff. I mean, right.

[Rich Davis]

All Pete Alonzo, all Peter Lonzo.

[Steve Covino]

I can't say it was the Mets, but it was a crucial situation that he may not have recovered from. Maybe Right. Like the knockout punch.

[Danny Beyer]

But doesn't sound like you're a buyer. Guy Cavino. I mean just. It just sounds Like, I'm just saying.

[Steve Covino]

I'm taking away credit from the Mets.

[Danny Beyer]

Think of the life of a closer in baseball, Right? Like this. Is it like, even. Like, even in Milwaukee. Like, Josh Hader was at his best when he was in Milwaukee.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Danny Beyer]

And so you go to other spots, you go where it's more magnified and not that the numbers are different, you can tell that. I just don't. I just think that's. I think that's the life of closers in baseball these days.

[Rich Davis]

And then the sentiment in New York. I know we're out here in la, but the sentiment in New York is. I have a lot of friends out there, I'm from New York originally. Is that Met fans are happy. Unless, of course, you're telling us you're replacing Edwin Diaz with Devin Williams. If you have Devin Williams and he's a setup guy for Diaz.

[Steve Covino]

But, dude, even as a setup guy towards the end of last year, yeah, he sort of worked it out. But they were using him case by case, batter per batter. It wasn't like they could just throw him in anywhere. You know what I mean? Like, they were only using him when the matchup suited him, just to get him out of that funk. So you gotta just hope you get that. That dominant sort of Devin Williams you expect. But sometimes we always bring up the same example. Like, Jose Ramirez knocks out Tim Anderson. He's never the same. Sometimes people don't recover. Their ego's bruised, they get in their head, they're not the same. I don't know. It could have been like, yeah, bigger.

[Rich Davis]

Market, as DB's insinuating. Sometimes it just coincidence and. Or just the role of a closer. Eventually you're gonna fail.

[Danny Beyer]

Yeah. At some point, it's. And he may be better in New York. I don't know if it'. I would also have to think that it's just tough to pitch for the Yankees, as crazy as that. Some people just aren't made up for it.

[Steve Covino]

Ask Sonny Gray how it goes.

[Danny Beyer]

Well, you know, and the brewers get great attendance, so it's not like the amount of people. It's everything else that comes with it.

[Rich Davis]

In those pressures, there's a lot of players that don't want to deal with all the press around their lockers. Like, New York's a pretty. You know, you would have thought Araldis.

[Steve Covino]

Chapman was done if you were going to base his career on what he did with the Yanks. And look how great he is now.

[Rich Davis]

Won some chips after that. So part two of this question is about Chemistry. We talk a lot about chemistry in everything. I feel like we have great chemistry on the show. I was Sam, run the board. I feel like we click. Right, Danny G. We happen to work so well with him. We've been working with Spot for years. DB I mean, consummate professional Big Mike who runs this place. We chop it up every day. I feel like we have good chemistry here at fsr. Agreed. Chemistry is an important thing.

[Steve Covino]

We had a sweet pizza party right before the show. That's true. Courtesy of Tripp.

[Rich Davis]

Thank you, Tripp.

[Steve Covino]

Thanks, Tripp.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, thanks, Tripp.

[Danny Beyer]

I didn't get to say thanks earlier.

[Rich Davis]

But thank you, Tripp. Thanks, Tripp. It was good pizza, Tripp in Vegas. He's our pizza dude.

[Spot (Midweek Major Host)]

He's our pizza man.

[Rich Davis]

There's speculation that Juan Soto and Francisco Lindor never really got along. And I denied it as a Mets fan. Like, oh, come on. And then I had buddies that would send me every time one of them hit a home run. Other teammates would do like, cool, like, handshakes and everything. And they would just do a little like. And I was like, oh, come on.

Can't be.

Can two superstars exist? I mean, we just saw the Clipper say later, Chris Paul, when two key players aren't vibing, could it ever work?

[Steve Covino]

That's tough, man. Shaq and Kobe is different, though.

[Rich Davis]

Like, Shaq and Kobe won, they three peated and the story is a. Kobe thought Shaq was lazy, but great, right?

[Steve Covino]

There's so many individual moments in baseball as opposed to other team sports, right? Like basketball, you're. You're running side by side on the court. Juan Soto's in the outfield, Lindora's in the infield. They take separate at bats. They should figure out a common ground where they could play and win together. A Rod and Jeter did it. They were not on the same page. They won a World Series at that time. They were not. They were not buddy chunks.

[Rich Davis]

I chalked it up to be Latino.

[Steve Covino]

Guys that they automatically have to be best friends because they're of Hispanic background. And I would say almost the opposite. Lindor is Puerto Rican and Soto's Dominican. So in some ways they're. They're rivals and they have egos and they both want to be leaders of that team and they both want to represent not only.

Themselves, but their. Their nations. And they want to be great. So I'm sure they butt heads a little bit. And that was Lindor's team before Soto got there. But everyone wanted to pretend like they were going to be BFFs, because they're both Hispanic. That's the way I see it a little bit.

[Rich Davis]

And not to. And not to make it just about my Mets, because it could be any team. Danny G. You know the guys on the Dodgers that are like clubhouse guys, you see like a Te, Oscar, guys that, like, just bring the fun, right? TK Hernandez, kk. Like, there's guys that. I meant. I meant to say Kike, not Tiasca. But Tayoska seems like a fun guy.

[Big Mike]

Too, but Oscar throws the sunflower seeds at you after you hit a homer.

[Steve Covino]

Now, you know, as hateable as you might want to feel about the Dodgers, they're not hateable. They're really. They're really likable.

[Rich Davis]

And they have. And they have.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, they have great noticeable chemistry.

[Rich Davis]

Well, to wrap up my thought, when people wondered, why did the Mets get rid of Brandon Nimmo? He was not the problem. But what they're saying is Marcus Simeon, while he doesn't have the stats of a Nimmo, and people like, why would you go to this older guy? He's what they're calling the clubhouse guy. They think could unite Soto and Lindor.

[Steve Covino]

Ah. So really that was the chess move here.

[Rich Davis]

The move is like, Marcus Simeon, he's the type of guy that, yo, he brings so much fun, and, yo, he knows Lindor and Soto, and maybe he's the guy.

[Steve Covino]

Well, you know what? Sometimes in life, if we're saying it's chemistry and team building and things like that, I've been told that I need a buffer. Not a Michael, not a Bruce, but a person to be the middle guy sometimes. Like my buddy Mark accused me of not always wanting to hang, he goes, but I will hang if there's a buffer. And maybe because I don't like how my ego collides with his, but if there's someone in the middle, it relieves that a little bit and makes it more fun. So, I mean, if you really pay close attention, that works in life. Probably works the same way in baseball. I just don't know. Is he friends with both of them? Because then it would make sense if this dude. If Simeon's friends with both of them, then that would work.

[Rich Davis]

So any sport, any workplace scenario, just think about how much chemistry really does play a factor. And when you think about moves that are made within your organization, where you work or the team, you, like, think, don't always think about the stats you see on paper because there's so much more. Especially after over 162 games in baseball or Even a long ass football season or basketball season, people got to like each other.

[Steve Covino]

You hear guys say like or compliment each other.

[Rich Davis]

Somehow you hear guys genuinely say sometimes like yeah, this is the close group of guys. We eat dinner together every night. Our our wives hang out. Like I always think it's cool how the 49ers, all the wives seem to be really close. You saw that on receiver, on Netflix, Kittle's wife and use Jack and McCaffrey's wife. They all hang and they're all the.

[Steve Covino]

GM that put that type of chemistry together.

[Rich Davis]

So just something to think about and we're going to talk some more. NFL and we got midweek major with our buddy spot. All the stories you might have missed in the world of sports and entertainment. We do that next right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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The most traumatic in terms of of danger factor and life threatening. Yes.

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[Steve Covino]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Big Mike]

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[Steve Covino]

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[Rich Davis]

You forgot cranberries too.

[Steve Covino]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Steve Covino]

Can't say that I do.

[Rich Davis]

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[Steve Covino]

I have a fun fact though. Did you know the same person that does the voice for Big Bird is the same person that does the voice for Oscar the Grouch?

[Rich Davis]

I can see that.

[Steve Covino]

Well, now you know.

[Rich Davis]

Now you know.

[Steve Covino]

All right, so it's Covino and Rich at Covino Enrich. And of course, streaming live. Shout out to everybody on the chat west in Idaho and everybody hanging. Covino enrich FSR on YouTube. Covino enrich FSR on YouTube. Now it is time. Whenever you're ready, Rich, for midweek.

[Rich Davis]

You had a plan.

[Steve Covino]

You had a plan, though.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, my plan is for a spot to do midweek. Major.

[Steve Covino]

All right, let's do it.

[Rich Davis]

Spot. Let's go. Covino and Rich gets you over the middle of the week with midweek Major. Ooh, I love that. We throw sports and pop culture headlines and topics at the fellas. And it's like the kids say, that's so mid. We definitely major CNR scoring midweek.

[Big Mike]

Major.

I gotta go fast, Spotty, because after that hemming and hawing you got like seven minutes.

[Spot (Midweek Major Host)]

Oh, it's exciting.

[Big Mike]

Before we hand things over to the number one and only host of the segment, let's pass the the microphones over to CNR with the dice.

[Steve Covino]

Get this over with. Rolled the nine.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

I win.

[Rich Davis]

He wins. Come on. I rolled once and it was a one. So I can't beat himself.

[Big Mike]

That means Covino gets first take. And now ladies and gentlemen, the most popular person and famous besides Judy Blume from Scotch Plains, New Jersey. Spotty boy.

[Rich Davis]

What's up Spot?

[Steve Covino]

Let's.

[Spot (Midweek Major Host)]

What do you say we jump right in?

[Steve Covino]

How about that?

[Rich Davis]

Jump it in.

[Spot (Midweek Major Host)]

You mentioned it earlier when I yelled at you for stealing my story. Couple Travis and Taylor updates so new episode of New Heights dropped this week with guest star George Clooney. They're pulling in the A listers. I know. While Clooney was discussing his relationship with his wife in law, he said how they never argued in their 10 year plus relationship. Which led Travis to open up about his relationship with Taylor, saying that in their two and a half years they've never argued.

[Steve Covino]

How about that?

[Spot (Midweek Major Host)]

Isn't that exciting? Also in other news, the Kansas City Chiefs president Mark Donovan was on the K Adams up in Adams podcast where he revealed that Travis did specifically ask that they refrain from playing any sort of Taylor Swift hits in the stadium or from showing her on the big screen when she's there during the game. He said that Travis is all about team not being separate. He says it's about us. I want it to be about us. Midweek or major.

[Steve Covino]

The first part is weak in a major way. Is anyone talking about how they don't fight or argue? It's BS or they haven't gotten there yet. That doesn't.

[Rich Davis]

Some people just are more argumentative. My wife and I hardly argue. I mean because we're not part of life. But some people are not winning prize for not arguing.

[Steve Covino]

Good for you. You're gonna argue.

[Rich Davis]

Guys like you think you win a prize if you do argue.

[Steve Covino]

That's life. People disagree. It's. You know what it's like. It's like telling me your life is grand because you you're on vacation on Instagram. That's not real life.

[Rich Davis]

Okay.

[Steve Covino]

You'll get there eventually. So people that put up that facade have the most to hide. I'm not buying it.

[Spot (Midweek Major Host)]

How long have you guys been been together?

[Steve Covino]

My wife and I? No, you two over 20 years.

[Spot (Midweek Major Host)]

Yeah. Talk to them in 20 years.

[Danny Beyer]

See how they argue.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. And arguing is not a bad thing. That's how people work thing out. Work things out sometimes, you know, it's not a bad thing.

[Rich Davis]

You know what I think I'm just thinking arguing. I think like arguing in my mind though is like yelling and screaming, like disagreements. Like my wife and I are disagreeing about a pool fence right now, but I don't think that's arguing.

[Steve Covino]

Never argued with the woman you're with. Like, give me a break. That's like B.S.

[Rich Davis]

I don't know what we're yelling about.

[Steve Covino]

B.S.

[Rich Davis]

Barakas.

[Steve Covino]

And as far as like, no Taylor Swift in stadium. He should have did that, you know, year one. So I, I think that's mid. Because too little, too late.

[Rich Davis]

It can be distracting. It can be distracting. Especially he's like, I'm here to play. I'm with the guys. I, I get it.

[Steve Covino]

I like that sentiment.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. I, I think this is. Both stories are pretty major.

You're the biggest celebrity couple out there and you don't fight at all. I like the fact no Taylor in the stadium because it was. It's a little, little kitschy. I don't like it. That's all. I think it's good.

[Steve Covino]

Don't fight at all is different than what you said.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. Okay.

[Steve Covino]

Don't fight at all.

[Spot (Midweek Major Host)]

Ever.

[Steve Covino]

What are you. Are you Mr.

[Rich Davis]

Perfect? Speaking of playing like the girls music, you're dating my favorite story of all time. I was in my 20s, Danny G. And I got wind that my ex girlfriend went to a gym that played me on the radio and she went to, to the manager of the gym and said, can you change the channel? I can't hear his voice.

[Spot (Midweek Major Host)]

I say that every day.

[Rich Davis]

Honestly, my favorite moment of all. Shut up. Spot the next story.

[Danny Beyer]

All right.

[Spot (Midweek Major Host)]

Oh, FIFA. The FIFA World cup draw will take place at the Kennedy center this Friday, which will decide the groups for the 48 nations participating in next year's big FIFA World cup, the one that's taking place in North America. The draw will feature a remarkable crossover of American and Canadian sporting icons as the world's World cup prepares to head to North America. Serving as draw assistant, the main headliner, Tom Brady said, it's an incredible honor, the kind of global stage every athlete dreams of. He's excited to help set the path. Other assistants include Aaron Judge, Shaq, Wayne Gretzky, former Manchester United player Rio Ferdinand. Hosting the event will be comedian Kevin Hart, Heidi Klum and Danny Ramirez. Musical acts include Robbie Williams Andrea Bocelli and Nicole Scherzinger. And hosting the red carpet will be rich. Your lookalike Eli Manning and President Donald Trump will be in attendance for and with actually. Oh, the Village People are gonna be performing YMCA live for the president. So a big event. Lots of stars. Check it out. This Friday, midweek or major man with.

[Steve Covino]

All those names, star power names. Big event sounds pretty major.

[Danny Beyer]

Trump's gonna be there.

[Steve Covino]

Tom Brady. What more could you want? Kevin Hart, Jesus. Jesus is gonna be there?

[iHeart Podcast Announcer]

Yeah.

[Danny Beyer]

That's amazing.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, sounds pretty major.

[Spot (Midweek Major Host)]

It's gonna be walking on water.

[Rich Davis]

Just a guy, you know, named Jesus.

[Steve Covino]

Sounds major.

[Rich Davis]

Listen, it's major spot. I mean, you read a headline about the FIFA World Cup. That's the biggest global event. I mean, what do you. Who do you expect to come out? The Proclaimer.

[Steve Covino]

You'd like that, wouldn't you?

[Rich Davis]

In fact, I'm surprised the musical acts aren't bigger, to be honest. President Trump's gonna be there doing the ymca. Tom Brady, Kevin Hart. And then after that, I felt like the name sort of went down a little bit. I'm shocked. They've grown. The Foo Fighters aren't there. I'm surprised. Gaga and Miley Cyrus and Katy Perry. Like, we're going with Nicole Scherzinger. I like her, but really.

[Big Mike]

All right.

[Spot (Midweek Major Host)]

And I know you guys are salivating this story. So Max Kellerman speaking out about his time with Stephen A. Smith at first take in ESPN and not painting their relationship in a great light. So Kellerman appeared on the Bill Simmons podcast, where he Talked about his 2016-21, 2021 stint on the show. And in a nutshell, Kellerman said that Stephen A. Got tired of debating him every day, that he actually never had a hot take, and the two never developed a personal relationship. He said that he can't think of any counterintuitive conclusions that Smith ever reaches. That's not his job on the air. It's his job to be the big reactor. He's there to hear the crazy conclusion that his partner has come to and just be the everyman. Loud voice. He said, despite their relationship, a Cardinalson is betraying that on air, and you should be thinking about making this show more entertaining. And he said that it got to the point where he was actually having to call out Stephen A. Smith to make the show entertaining.

[Steve Covino]

So.

[Spot (Midweek Major Host)]

So I don't know if it's bad blood, but a lot of drama building.

[Steve Covino]

Midweek or major, major, major. And we have to remember that Stephen A. Threw him under the bus so many times before Kellerman finally spoke out and put his side out there and Stephen A. And let it be known. I like both guys. We've shared the mic with both guys. We did first take with Kellerman. Rich. Yep, that was an honor. I do like both guys. But Stephen A. Made it seem like Max was bringing the show down and wasn't bringing any solid arguments, wasn't challenging him. And I think it was quite the opposite. I watched all the time and I thought Max always brought the heat and challenged Stephen A. To the point where it made Stephen A uncomfortable, but it made it for a good viewing audience. So I like hearing what he has to say about it as well, because I don't think Stephen A handled that fairly.

[Rich Davis]

I think it's major. If you're a sports fan, it's major because that is a big show. And I think first take. I know there's other characters, but in the, you know, beginning big years of.

[Steve Covino]

That show, I think it was better with Kellerman.

[Rich Davis]

It was Stephen A and Kellerman, and I'm a fan of both. Like you said, I heard Max in that interview also say that, you know, he was gonna put up a fight. Stephen A essentially did not want to spar Terence Bud Crawford every day, and Max was gonna put up a fight every day. And Stephen A. Is like, yeah, I just don't want to. I don't want to do that. Plus he said, in this world, the minute Stephen A. Also realized solo people can make more money.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. And Stephen A. Is like the ringleader of this circus as opposed to what was going back and forth between him and Max.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

All right.

[Rich Davis]

Thank you, Spotty boy.

[Steve Covino]

Thank you. That's a juicy one, man. I know.

[Rich Davis]

All right, db, what's going on? Dan Beyer.

[Danny Beyer]

Lots going on, guys. We start in the NBA where Bucks forward Giannis and Teddo Kumpo's future in Milwaukee could be up in the air. ESPN reporting that Giannis agent has initiated talks with the team's front office to talk about Giannis future. A decision could be coming in the next couple of weeks, according to espn. Lakers guard Luka Doncic out tomorrow in Toronto for personal reasons. Suns guard Devin Booker is going to miss at least a week because of a groin strain. Every Olympic dream starts with a first glide through. Learn to Skate USA kids build confidence, strength and joy on the ice. Learn to Skate USA offers programs for skaters of all ages and abilities. Find a program near you at learntoskateusa.com Lions wide receiver Amon or a St. Brown questionable for tomorrow's game against the Cowboys. Commanders and Vikings play on Sunday. Jaden Daniels limited for Washington today While Vikings quarterback J.J. mcCarthy got a full practice in trying to come back from a concussion. Chargers quarterback Justin Herbert says their plan is for him to play Monday against the Eagles. He didn't practice today, but did reveal that a plate and multiple screws were put into repair his fractured left hand. Buccaneers open up the practice window for Mike Evans. Browns did the same for quarterback Ravens and Mark Andrews to a three year $39 million extension. 57.2 million viewers watched the Chiefs Cowboys Thanksgiving Day game on cbs, the most watched NFL regular season game in history. The second most was the one right before it on Fox. Packers and lions with almost 48 million viewers and a couple of college football notes. South Florida hiring Ohio State offensive coordinator Brian Hartline as their new head football coach. Kansas State head football coach Chris Climons retiring after seven seasons at the school. Kirk Ference, back with the Hawkeyes in 20 as college football's longest tenured head coach, will coach his 28th season in 2026 in Iowa City. And multiple recruiting sites say that USC is the top rated recruiting class for 2026 in college football as its national signing day. Guys, back to you.

[Steve Covino]

Hey, thanks Dan Meyer.

[Rich Davis]

Have a great night db.

[Steve Covino]

Have a great one man. Enjoy your hump night and tomorrow starts.

[Rich Davis]

Like we talked about the like the most exciting week 14 ever in the NFL with of course Cowboys Lions tomorrow.

[Steve Covino]

Ooh, can't wait. All right, so Rich has more NBA and NFL thoughts and we'll get to them next. And your feedback right here on Fox Sports Radio. But quick timeout Rich holiday upgrade check. You still watching the games on that old small weak ass tv? If you are, you're only seeing about half the game.

[Rich Davis]

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[Steve Covino]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Steve Covino]

No. It's me, Steve Covino with Rich Davis and Danny G. And Sam and Spot. And I see Monty lurking. Steve.

Shout out to big Steve. My dad, 72 years old.

[Rich Davis]

Hey, stop kissing ass.

[Steve Covino]

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[Big Mike]

He was playing in garbage time.

[Steve Covino]

He's playing garbage time is LeBron James. He's older and everybody knows you could smell it a mile away. Rich, he's not playing defense. The only reason he's there is to get those 10 points to get that streak going, to keep it going so it becomes controversial. It's me, Braun again. It's like, yo, man, if you're a team, dude, sit it out. And now it seems like the streak is getting in the way. And we've seen that stuff before. It's like sometimes when it ends, it's a relief for everybody. He's trying to keep it going and going and going again. Detriment to the team.

Or not.

[Rich Davis]

If the Lakers are losing. Okay, listen. Unless you're Oklahoma City, who's 21 and one who may never lose. Unless you're a team that may lose five games all year. Teams are just amping up for the playoffs, but you don't want streaks to.

[Steve Covino]

Get in the way of what's best for.

[Rich Davis]

What I'm saying is the best teams lose 20 or more games for the most part.

[Steve Covino]

Right.

[Rich Davis]

20, 30 games. You're going to lose games. So if the Lakers, hey, it's not your night. The Suns are on fire. Hitting threes. Like you said, Danny, in the pre.

[Steve Covino]

Show meeting, there's no debate that Suns are on fire. Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

You know, Rich, let me inherently, if it's not your night and you know it's not your night and LeBron hasn't.

[Big Mike]

Sit on the bench and let the youngsters get in the game. Rich, at some point.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Big Mike]

When you know your career is winding down and he's admitted this is going to be maybe his last season or next season will be the last.

[Steve Covino]

He admitted just last week that he was sore because he's old.

[Big Mike]

Right. So this streak is going to come to an end and everyone else is far away from this double digit streak that he's got going. No one is going to come close. What I don't like about this is we filled in on the Dan Patrick show and talked about his glorious return. Remember when he fit in with all the other stars they now have on that team?

[Steve Covino]

Well, that's the thing, Danny. You don't want to have it forced.

[Danny Beyer]

Yes.

[Steve Covino]

Where LeBron has to score when it should be the other way around. It works when he's letting everyone else be the star and he's dishing it out, letting everyone else score. If you're now worried about LeBron scoring to keep that streak alive is even subconsciously taken away from what really works for the team. I know it sounds nitpicky here, but think about that.

[Rich Davis]

If the Lakers didn't have the third best record in the NBA and they weren't 15 and 5 and looking really sharp, then I'd say what are we doing here? But I think the Lakers, I think It's Ode to LeBron a little bit, to be honest.

[Steve Covino]

I think just like his hairline, he's got to let the streak go. Let and move forward.

[Big Mike]

Yeah, Rich, I don't think that's owed when it's a record like that because it's, that's not.

[Rich Davis]

I know what I'm, I'm trying. I know it's a bad comparison. But you remember at the end of. At the end of NFL seasons, like in week 18, there's players that they purposely push the ball on so they could hit.

[Big Mike]

That's for money.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, they get incentives or like, you know, we saw the famous member. Was it Joe Kleko? That was all. Who was all mad? Gastono.

[Steve Covino]

Who was.

[Rich Davis]

Who was all mad?

[Steve Covino]

Gaston.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, it was Gaston. Yeah, he was all mad because Brett Favre let Strahan sack him because it.

[Steve Covino]

Meant a lot to him.

[Rich Davis]

I mean, LeBron took a fall. If LeBron has this streak, I don't know was. Did it bother anyone that much? I guess are Lakers fans.

[Steve Covino]

Maybe not in this game because again, they lost. But you don't want that pressure on the other players to make sure LeBron has 10 points every time when the W is all that matters here. I think that's where criticism comes from.

[Big Mike]

Yes, that's a good point. Because the Laker fans I saw complaining about this on social media said, can he just sit and find his role and be okay with it? The Lakers can go far if he'll be that guy.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, double digits, 10 points should take a backseat to LeBron. But you know what? Fitting in and making it work.

[Rich Davis]

Sometimes when you're up big or down big, rules are off. Now you could say, well, that's. It's the pros.

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[Rich Davis]

I'm playing softball in my stupid league. If some teams whooping the other team, you might bet lefty, you might go for a home run. I'm not taking a walk. I'll swing at a bad pitch just because it's like games that out of reach. And I think Lakers games out of reach. Let LeBron do his little double digit thing. What do we. What do you care?

[Steve Covino]

I think there'd be a lot of relief from him and the team if it just went away. Like, Like Cal Ripken, like, you know, hey, the streak's over. We're. We're moving on.

[Rich Davis]

All right, well, hey, have a great night. We'll see you guys manana. Until then. Hey, Ariba Dare, baby.

[Steve Covino]

See you in the promised land later.

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