C&R - Dart's Head & Koo's Toe

Summary

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The Dan Patrick Show: C&R – "Dart's Head & Koo's Toe"

Date: December 3, 2025
Hosts: Covino & Rich (with Dan Byer, Jonas Knox, Danny G, and others)
Platform: Fox Sports Radio / iHeartPodcasts

Episode Overview

This episode of Covino & Rich, standing in for The Dan Patrick Show, dives into the fallout from the previous night's NFL game between the Patriots and Giants. The crew debates New York Giants QB Jackson Dart's reckless playing style, discusses kicker Younghoe Koo's bizarre non-kick, and explores the culture around “playing tough” in pro sports. They blend humor and sports analysis, tackle the wisdom of risking injury for meaningless games, talk face paint and masculine bravado, and riff with callers about whether Dart is a "badass," a "fool," or both.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Patriots Dominate Giants – The Game Recap

Timestamps: 05:00 – 06:10

• Patriots defeat the Giants 33-15, extending their win streak to 10 games (now 11–2).
• Giants show some “promise”—but are “ass cheeks” according to Covino.
• MVP chants ring out for Patriots QB Drake May.
• Betting angle: The "trap game" concept—the Patriots as a clear -7 favorite, which the hosts lament for underestimating.

“We knew what was going to happen. We called it yesterday… it was a boring game, but the Patriots are dominant.” — Covino (05:05)

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2. Jackson Dart: Badass or Fool?

Timestamps: 06:10 – 23:00

The Hit & Dart’s Remarks

• Dart took a brutal (but legal) hit while scrambling on the sideline.
• Plays with a reckless style; risked injury for an extra yard in a meaningless game.

“Like, this is football. Like, I’m gonna get hit if I’m in the pocket or outside the pocket…it’s part of the game.” — Jackson Dart (07:37, via Dan Byer quoting audio)

Debate: Is Dart Setting a Leadership Example or Being Reckless?

• Covino: Respects Dart’s “badass” willingness to lead by example, calling him “a football player” who’s “leading by example” (08:38).
• Rich: Calls for Dart to play smarter, protect himself; "I think he’s a fool until he gets that first big contract…a couple of hits like that, he's never going to make it to contract two.” (10:58)
• Dan Byer: Points out that reckless play also impacts the team, not just the QB (“You are responsible for everybody…If your receiver doesn’t get paid because his QB’s been knocked out…” – 14:10)

The Face Paint & “Badass” Optics

• The team riffs on the idea that if you wear face paint/eye black, you’d better play hard.
• “If you’re painting your face…you can’t be running out of bounds.” — Dan Byer (20:47)

Parallels to Other Athletes

• Lamar Jackson’s diminishing explosiveness after injuries.
• Cam Newton’s career cut short despite being a “freak athlete” (31:33).
• Comparisons to young, fearless athletes—“You can’t expect a 22-year-old in the NFL to play any other way.” — Covino (18:56)

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3. The Younghoe Koo Missed Kick Fiasco

Timestamps: 45:31 – 49:41

Play of the Day

• Giants’ kicker Younghoe Koo (pronounced “Young Way Koo”) botched a field goal attempt:
  “He never kicked it. He kicked…the ground.” — Jonas Knox (45:35)

The Excuse & Analysis

• Koo claimed the holder shifted the ball (slippage), so he pulled up at the last moment.

“As I was driving through it, the bottom of the ball was slipping out, so I just pulled up on it.” — Younghoe Koo (47:03, via audio)

• Mixed reactions:
  • Covino: Flip-flops on believing Koo – "I saw two different angles...but I don't know, it looked very much like he missed his target…”
  • Rich: Supports Koo, noting precision is crucial for kickers.

Excuse Culture in Sports

• Covino roasted as an “excuse guy” for sports mishaps (“The oil on the lanes isn’t right!” – 48:19)
• Opens up the topic for worst sports excuses.

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4. Callers’ Opinions: Reckless or Bold?

Timestamps: 30:51 – 35:26

Michael in Virginia:

• Cautions Dart; compares him to Cam Newton, whose career suffered after taking too many hits.

Roger in Tacoma:

• Recalls rookie Russell Wilson sliding out of bounds as “the smart play”—Dart should do the same.

Caleb in Missouri:

• Asks what Dart’s really proving on a “two-win team.” Argues Giants fans care more about his decision-making than proving he can take a hit.

“I think Giants fans would much rather see him prove he can read a Cover 4…let’s understand if we have the quarterback of the future, not that you’re really tough, you can take a hit.” — Caleb (34:17)

Host Reaction:

• Covino: “They’re right…but it’s in their competitive nature. You’re telling them to tone it down, but they’re playing Monday Night Football. This dude’s going all out.” (35:03)

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5. Sports Culture: Optics and Identity

Timestamps: 20:23 – 23:25; 29:44 – 30:45

If You’ve Got the Gear, Back it Up!

• The “Dripping Face Paint” discussion:
  • Riff on sports culture — if you show up with custom gear, eye black, or “closer” facial hair, you’d better play wild, play well.
  • “If you’re painting your face...you gotta play that way.” — Covino (23:09)
  • Humorous analogies: the guy with a wrist guard at bowling, the guy bringing his own pool cue, etc.

Playing With Passion vs. Playing Smart

• “As a fan, I want to see that! Not to mention this is the NFL. It’s football. These are the highlights we’ll see for years to come.” — Covino (30:06)
• “As you establish yourself...you back off the silly stuff. I think early in his career, this is what you get.” — Covino (17:51)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Dart’s Play Style: "Jackson Dart – badass, fool, or both? ...At this stage of his life and career, I kind of appreciate it. He’s trying to make a statement, trying to make a name for himself, trying to establish who he is in this league as he grows." — Covino (16:35)

• On Leadership: “As the leader of a team...if I’m willing to give up my body and sacrifice, I expect that from everybody.” — Covino (08:53)

• On NFL Injury Trends:
  “The new trend is: some of these guys make a ton of money, might step away early. What if Jackson Dart’s okay with dippin’ out early?” — Rich (13:16)

• On Face Paint Law:
  “If you’re painting your face...you can’t be running out of bounds. You gotta play wild.” — Dan Byer (20:23)

• Pop Culture Sidebar:
  “If you ever play like beer league softball...you better hit 400-foot rockets. You can’t be average and show up wearing like a full uniform!” — Rich (21:21)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Patriots vs. Giants recap: 05:00 – 06:10
• Jackson Dart debate begins: 06:10 – 23:00
• Face paint & gear riff: 20:23 – 23:25
• Listener calls – Jackson Dart reckless/badass: 30:51 – 35:26
• Younghoe Koo missed kick/excuse: 45:31 – 49:41

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Tone & Style

Covino and Rich keep things smart, casual, and humorous—ribbing each other, welcoming audience calls, and mixing deep sports knowledge with snappy pop-culture references and playful debate. The show's open, conversational style brings listeners into the locker-room banter, questioning the fine line between toughness and foolishness in modern sports.

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Summary

This episode encapsulates everything fans love about C&R: spirited debate on what it means to be “tough” in the NFL, plenty of sports nostalgia, a willingness to poke fun at themselves and their guests, and an ear for what sparks passion among fans—be it a gutsy scramble, a weird botched kick, or a guy in too much eye black.

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For further segments, the crew planned to discuss more NFL news, their top five most important upcoming games, a “dumb hypothetical” involving basketball, play trivia, and answer further calls—but the heart of the show, and the episode name, is all about Dart’s head and Koo’s toe.

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Transcript

[Covino]

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[Rich]

Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap.

[Covino]

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[Rich]

Find your local station for camino [e-mail] or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app. Like searching FSR. Yo, what's up, buddies?

[Covino]

We got the chat up. Are we chatting it up.

[Jonas Knox]

Chat it up, bro.

[Covino]

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[Jonas Knox]

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[Caller or Guest]

Happy Tuesday.

[Covino]

He puts the G in Danny G Radio. No relation to Warren, but Kenny is his uncle.

[Rich]

True story.

[Covino]

True story. 87799 on Fox for Danny G. That's our number. Iowa, Sam, looking handsome and jolly for Christmas time. Dan Byers here. The whole crew is rocking out on this Tuesday.

[Rich]

All right, Dan Byer. As he told me earlier, when he was younger, people called him Danny B. Danny B. Danny B.

[Covino]

And Danny G. Yeah, buddy and Stevie.

[Rich]

C. And there's my buddy J. Stu, still lingering.

[Covino]

I love Richie D. Richie D. They call him Dicky D. Dicky D. So they call him Dicky Do. Because he does.

[Rich]

I do. I. I gotta talk a lot of Jackson dart today. I wanna talk a lot of NFL. I have a basketball hypothetical for you buffoons. And it has to do with would you take a chance to win millions?

[Covino]

Plus, I saw Showboy Mahomes in the lobby getting ready for some trivia. Giving away prizes on his t. Again, Covino and Rich. Not only on YouTube. Covino Enrich FSR. But check our podcast. Be sure to follow, rate and review. Search Covino and Rich. Give it five stars. And every Olympic dream starts with a first glide through. Learn to Skate USA kids build confidence, strength and joy on the ice. Learn to Skate USA offers programs for skaters of all ages and abilities. Find a program near [e-mail] yeah.

[Rich]

USA people don't know that Kavino is the Chad Michael Michaels of Fox Sports Radio.

[Covino]

True story.

[Rich]

By the way, underrated Ferrell movie, don't you think? Yes. Now that was funny, dude. I used to love that movie.

[Covino]

I'm not surprised. I hope you had a Patriots sort of night. Not a New York football giant sort of night. Not a young ho coup making excuses.

[Rich]

Or was he?

[Covino]

Well, we'll discuss that too. But man, the Giants are ass cheeks. We know that. But they're exciting. They got promise. We get it. But we knew what was going to happen. We called it yesterday. It was a boring game, but the patriots are dominant. MVP chance for Drake May. They're 11 and two now, 10 games in a row. The longest streak this year in the NFL. You know what it is to them, man.

[Rich]

Notice you look at some of those games and you, you know, in the gambling world, a lot of people say, oh, trap game, right? But when you saw New England by seven, I feel like that was a gimme and we all ignored it. Right at the end of the show yesterday, Danny was like, patriots by seven. Rich, what's your pick? And I'm like, I don't know. The Patriots probably rock them, but I didn't bet on it. I think a lot of people look at a Thursday night or a Monday night and sometimes screwy things happen. And again, a 10 and 2 team versus a 2 and 10 team in New England. Like, why do we all not jump on Patriots minus seven?

[Caller or Guest]

Well, once it became 17 to seven, some of us hopeful fans out there were like, okay, maybe they'll make a game out of it.

[Covino]

No, no.

[Caller or Guest]

Well, hey, I think the two storylines though for the Giants are Jackson Dart still being kind of reckless, getting rocked alongside the sideline there, and of course, their kicker.

[Covino]

It's not soccer, man, it's football.

[Caller or Guest]

Yeah, I'm going to keep getting concussions is basically what he said.

[Rich]

Listen, Jackson Dart, let's start with him. And by the way, if you're watching on our YouTube chat, people already chiming in, is it weird that I'm rocking a backwards hat? I know Colin Cowherd doesn't approve.

[Covino]

Fred Durst approves, so you're good.

[Rich]

Okay.

[Covino]

And Ken Griffey Jr. Said, yeah, way to go, buddy.

[Rich]

Yeah. Even I with Sam's like, well, I'm.

[Covino]

More mad that you're wearing a weak ass Ben Savage T shirt.

[Rich]

It's a Fred Savage shirt. Savage af.

[Covino]

If it's not Randy, that is lame. So anyway, it's too high up on.

[Caller or Guest]

Your dome, I think, Rich, you gotta like, if you do the backwards cap. Yeah.

[Covino]

You look like Steve Buscemi where he's like, how do you do, fellow kids? Is that from 30 Rock?

[Rich]

It's like the meme.

[Dan Byer]

Yeah.

[Rich]

These from 30. I look like an old guy. We're holding a skateboard.

[Covino]

Skateboard backpack. And how do you do, fellow children? Well, Richie's came back in the gym, that's why.

[Rich]

Yeah, I went to the sauna and I, you know, I like to chill in the sauna, but then my hair gets messed up. But anyway, who cares? Jackson Dart, you said it. Danny G along the sideline, guy gets rocked, legal hit. He's tiptoeing.

[Covino]

Oh, it was a great hit. But it did in real time. It looked like an illegal hit. It looked like a bad Hit. It looked like a late hit, but no, good hit, good call. And he spoke about it.

[Ad Voice or Announcer]

Yeah.

[Rich]

Take a listen.

[Dan Byer]

I understand the question, but, like, this is.

[Rich]

Like, this is football. Like, I'm gonna get hit if I'm in the pocket or outside the pocket. Like, it's.

[Dan Byer]

I don't.

[Rich]

Like, I feel like I've played this way my whole entire life. It shouldn't be like, any shocker to anybody if you've followed along with my career and we're not playing. Like, we're not playing soccer out here. Like, you're gonna get hit. Things happen. Yeah. It's part of the game.

[Covino]

Well, here's the biggest difference. He's not playing in college anymore. He's not playing in the peewee leagues. You know, you're playing with monsters in the NFL, peewee. And, yeah, legal hit and all, but you keep playing like that, you're going to get hurt eventually. And you're too important as a quarterback in the NFL to be doing that sort of thing. I get it. You could be tough. There's a balance there. Right. Josh Allen's sort of figuring out that balance.

[Rich]

We've seen mobile quarterbacks be told, hey, you're not as mobile as you once were. We're not going to allow that. It's dangerous. You don't want to. He doesn't want to spend every other game in the blue tent. It's.

[Covino]

But you got to respect it, though. He's a badass, he's a tough guy. He's a football player. He's leading by example.

[Rich]

Glad you said that. Because the question, to start the show simple, Jackson Dart badass or dummy or setting the precedent.

[Covino]

Right. Like, as a dad, as a leader, a lot of times you say to people, hey, I'm not asking you to do something I wouldn't do myself. So as a leader of a team, you know, this is what he expects from his. His players. Like, hey, man, if I'm willing to give up my body and sacrifice and play my heart out like a Baker Mayfield, those are ways to send messages, you know, like, I'm willing to do this. I expect that from everybody.

[Rich]

Agreed.

[Covino]

But as a guy that's setting the tone and establishing a reputation in the NFL, I think it's okay now. He's young now, but eventually it will catch up to him.

[Rich]

I don't think it's the age thing. I think it's. Sometimes you just. You minimize the risk. Right. That's an obvious thing.

[Covino]

Right.

[Rich]

I mean, if Jackson Dart is scrambling, we don't I don't want this guy to stop playing with some fire and passion and running around, and I don't. I don't mind when he's mildly reckless. When you're tiptoeing along the sideline, getting that one extra yard isn't worth getting clobbered. It's little things like that. It's.

[Caller or Guest]

It's like, thank you. This is not the super bowl where John Elway needed to helicopter into the end zone.

[Rich]

Dude, perfect example. Like, you're not asking.

[Covino]

I gotta be smarter.

[Rich]

You're not asking, Josh. You're not asking. Jackson Dartu. Hey, man, listen. We're gonna keep you in the pocket, all right, with this. None of. None of this. None of this reckless running around. It's part of his game. It's what makes him exciting. It makes the fans love him. He's a passionate dude. I love him.

[Covino]

He's got balls. And he already missed a few games. Right.

[Rich]

It is football, but, you know, I love him. And scatter.

[Covino]

Boo.

[Rich]

And they're both healthy, headbutting each other and acting like, you know, silly frat dudes. But again, it's like, pick the times you're going to throw your body out there. If it's a. If it's a scramble and you already got the first down and you're tiptoeing, why. Why are you leaving yourself vulnerable, man?

[Covino]

So Jackson dart badass fool, or both? I mean, both could be an answer here. I'm going with badass now because, again, he's setting the tone, and he's a young player in the league. I know you already said that. Doesn't matter. Rich, I think I feel what you're saying, because you could get hurt. You're not immune to getting hurt.

[Rich]

I think he's a fool until he gets that first big contract. Now, if he had that, you know, because even if you're average now, what is your first contract, Danny? 40 to $50 million a year. It seems like if. If you are. If you. If a team banks on you, you're getting 40 to 50. It seems like the standard now.

[Caller or Guest]

So, yeah, he hasn't signed his $108 million signing bonus.

[Rich]

Yeah. So when Jackson Dart, a couple of years from now, the talk is, oh, the Giants going to give him 40, 50, 60 million depending on where things go, then I'd say, dude, play your game. But a couple hits like that, he's never going to make it to contract two.

[Covino]

So, again, they lost 33, 15 to the what seems to be unstoppable Patriots, right? Now Jackson Dart, 139 yards, one Tutty, no turnovers and yeah, putting his body on the line as a viewer, as a fan and as a casual fan on a Monday night while we wrap up week 13. Unbelievable. I like seeing it again. Fan perspective.

[Rich]

I mean Mr. McKeely hit us up.

[Covino]

What up?

[Rich]

Mr. McKeely said, Guys, look at Lamar Jackson. Every injury he has, he comes back a little less the player he was.

[Covino]

Less explosive this year. Way noticeable too. I get it, you know, but how many years he's been in the league now?

[Rich]

But, but Wes is saying dude is getting paid millions. I don't know. Can you look up Jackson Dart's current contract? Because he's not getting paid like millions like the Lamars and Joe Burrows and Mahomes of the world. So said he can pay million.

[Covino]

But you gotta love that attitude.

[Rich]

He goes, look at the, even if.

[Covino]

It'S foolish, the things he says like no man, this isn't soccer, this is football. It's what I do. Like that's the kind of attitude you want though. So I would never want to deter him from that fire, from speaking and leading that way.

[Caller or Guest]

His rookie deals, a fully guaranteed four year contract worth $17 million.

[Rich]

That's a small fortune.

[Caller or Guest]

Yeah, he got a signing bonus of almost 9 million.

[Covino]

And by the way, Lamar Jackson is eight years in the league right now and this is really the first time we've seen him let up. I mean what quarterback is the same from year one to year eight anyway? Yes, he looks like he's less explosive. No doubt he could be having an off year. We don't know that.

[Rich]

Wes in Vegas to finish what he said, he goes, these guys even at that level are getting paid millions. Danny G proved it. He's got 17, right? The new trend is some of these guys make a ton of money, might step away early. What if, what if Jackson darts okay with dip it out early? If he plays his game, I'm surprised.

[Covino]

We'Re not getting more. Because Rich isn't the only one saying foolish right? Like hey man, take it ease. You got nothing to prove. It's a random night, you guys are 2 in 10. But isn't it a little refreshing too that people still want to play at that level? I'm not saying we don't see it, but when you see load management in the, in the NBA and when you see some people, you know, what's the proper word? Blank Footing around in the NFL sometimes.

[Rich]

I want to know what the proper way when you can't say the Other word, blank footing.

[Covino]

When they're tiptoeing, maybe tiptoeing around sometimes wussy footing, playing patty cake. You know, it is nice to see and be reminded that this is the NFL and that he's here to win regardless of the record and regardless of the investment, how much money he's making. You could say, man, that's, that's refreshing. I like that attitude. But the sentiment is, hey man, take it easy.

[Rich]

Hey, Dan Buyer. Isn't it wild to think that on one hand there's people that are curious as to why Joe Burrow's even playing, right.

[Dan Byer]

Yes.

[Rich]

And then there's other people that are like, yeah, Jackson Dart, go for it.

[Dan Byer]

I think that's a good example and maybe not necessarily with the Bengals because we did see how Joe Flacco performed. But my question to Jackson Dart would be, what would Wanda Robinson wants you to do? What would a healthy Malik Neighbors want you to do? Because you are responsible for everybody. And if your wide receiver doesn't get paid because his quarterback's been knocked out because he won't get down, you're likely not winning games. And it could affect how you and your business goes because now you got to play with the second or third string quarterback. I think on the surface it's great, what a gamer for a 2 and 10 team. But when you're the quarterback of the team, you have a lot more to think about than just, am I going to get this extra yard?

[Rich]

And especially with what you saw for a minute with him and Scatterbo and Malik neighbors, all these guys banged up. There is a sentiment that next year the Giants retooling some draft picks. The Giants, would you agree that most think they're not as far away as they feel?

[Dan Byer]

Rephrase. So you think they're closer than they appear.

[Rich]

Like, meaning they're, they're banged up. Couple draft picks, they have a quarterback in place.

[Dan Byer]

Yes. A wide receiver that's injured.

[Rich]

I don't think they're that far off from being like, well, maybe they're a wild card team. There were, there were player analysts that thought this year the Giants might make some.

[Dan Byer]

Yeah, I think that's fair.

[Rich]

So you're right. There's no point in getting hurt now where next year is like off the table. You want to be, you want Malik neighbors, Jackson Dart camp Scatterboo, with the addition of some maybe free agents and good draft picks ready to roll for 20, 26. Don't jeopardize anything. But he is a baller.

[Covino]

Huh? I'M trying to think of that Balboa quote where he tells Adrian to.

[Ad Voice or Announcer]

Oh.

[Rich]

Stop telling me to be a man.

[Covino]

Yeah, it's like you're telling him not to be who he is.

[Rich]

I never ask you to stop being a woman, so don't ask me to stop being a man.

[Covino]

Stop telling him to stop being a football player. Absolutely.

[Rich]

No, you can't win.

[Covino]

You know, like, it's kind of who he is. That's what you sign up for when you sign a Jackson Dart. Maybe maturity, maybe a good pop will change those things, but that's how he plays the game. That's who he is. So it's kind of hard to change that once you've been doing it your whole life. That's the truth. So I feel all those things. But we posed a question to you. You heard our side. Jackson Dart. You saw it last night. Meaningless game. Badass for taking that hit, trying to get that extra yard. Is he a badass leading by example or is he just a fool? What a fool believes? Is he a down ass fool or both? 877-99-FOX. At this stage of his life and career, I kind of appreciate it. He's trying to make a statement, trying to make a name for himself, trying to establish who he is in this league as he grows. And he could depend on other people, I think, you know, hopefully he's smart enough to back off on that sort of thing. And, you know, I'd like to see him mature and grow. But right now, I like it.

[Rich]

Who am I? Homer Camacho Hit us up. What's up, Homer? On the intro YouTube thread, he said, guys, Troy Aikman, did you hear he compared Jackson dart to Jim McMahon? He's not going to last at this rate.

[Covino]

At this rate, yeah, but everybody evolves. Hey, Rich, you were kind of reckless in your career in the beginning. The things you would say in interviews, the way we would talk to people on our show, the antics we pulled on the air, you ain't. Because we were trying to establish ourselves as a pushing the envelope, cutting edge. But those things could eventually have gotten us in trouble. Right? So once you establish yourself as, as credible broadcasters, you just do that and you become a professional and you, you back off the silly stuff a little bit and you show what you really got. I think early in his career, this is what you get. Cause that's who he is. He'll change.

[Caller or Guest]

Think also, you have to show the other defenses around the league that you're not going to be a sitting duck if they Know you're a quarterback that's going to get down and slide.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Caller or Guest]

Because we. You guys just. The eye test at start of the season when you called them him and Scatter.

[Covino]

Boo.

[Caller or Guest]

The new dynamic duo. What was the caveat you guys gave?

[Rich]

They're reckless and something's going to happen.

[Caller or Guest]

Both of them were going to get hurt if they continue to play with that style. So if you guys could see it from your living rooms. You're telling me defensive coordinators and defenses don't lick their chops when they go against them?

[Covino]

They do. But here's the reality check, too. We know this, but when you hear it, it sounds different. He's 22 years old. 22. You guys watch how invincible you feel at 22 years old. Especially. Especially a dude in the NFL. You guys can't expect him to play any other way.

[Rich]

You guys watch the new Kevin Hart special on Netflix?

[Covino]

I started it.

[Rich]

He talks about how he's 45 now.

[Covino]

Yeah. And he goes, he doesn't care what anyone thinks.

[Rich]

He talks about how he. He'll play like pickup basketball.

[Covino]

Yo, he called out Michael Jordan pretty hard.

[Jonas Knox]

That was wild.

[Rich]

Did you watch? He, like, was really that style.

[Covino]

He talked about his sons.

[Rich]

Call Michael Jordan sons, losers and everything. So in the special, Kevin Hart says He's in his 40s now. He plays pickup basketball. You roll your ankle, you might have a hurt ankle forever. He's like, you know, that's forever an ailment you're. You got a boot on for. And he's, you know, limping around pretending he has a boot on.

[Covino]

I think this is how legends are made.

[Rich]

He said when you're 20 something, you'll see some dude at the gym roll his anchors. Like, the dude's ankle hits the side of the gym floor, jumps up, and he's like, all right, I'm good. When you're 20 something, it's like when your kids fall, knock on wood. Like, your kids get up and they're like, I'm fine. How many kids are you? They're pliable.

[Covino]

Recovery. So different. It looks dangerous, but it's a dangerous sport. And he said it. He said it best. So badass fool. Both your thoughts. 87799 on Fox. 87799 on Fox @ Covino and Rich at Fox Sports.

[Dan Byer]

Radio. There's also the face paint angle that you guys have not addressed. So when you are painting your face, whether it be yes of whatever mark he's got under his eye, I think he should totally run out of bounds and wipe that stupid black mark, whatever he's got under his face off. But you can't be running out of bounds if you're painting your face like.

[Rich]

That. So you're saying he should wipe that off and put ultimate warrior face paint.

[Covino]

On?

[Ad Voice or Announcer]

No. Different.

[Dan Byer]

Colors. J.J. mcCarthy does, and it's even worse with him. But when you go to the specific eye blacks. Swipe on your.

[Rich]

Cheek.

[Dan Byer]

Swipe. Or the cross, you can't be going out of. You can't be running out of.

[Covino]

Bounds. I think we also need to give props to. Was it Christian Ellis, right linebacker from the Patriots? That was a sweet hit. Yeah, sweet hit. But to back up, it wasn't a late.

[Rich]

Hit. What DB Said, you can't be painting your face and not play a little wild. It's like, if you ever play like, re. Softball. If you're the guy that shows up and you're wearing like an elbow guard and batting gloves to softball, you better hit 400 foot rockets. You can't be average and show up wearing like full.

[Dan Byer]

Uniform. Like.

[Covino]

100%. Yeah, that is a funny.

[Rich]

Point. Like Dan Byer. You ever golf with someone, I'm guessing, that has all the gear, everything. They.

[Dan Byer]

Suck. All the time. All the time. All of the stuff from all the courses that they've played. Top notch. Everything. Best golf ball. Best golf shoes. The. The hat matches. The belt. Not. I don't go unmatched. Like, it's. I try to match, but I don't. It's not. Everything is. Is primo, as they now say. But yes. And then the game doesn't match it. Match.

[Covino]

It. I got two more examples, DB and that's a really great one. You have to be a wild sort of player if you're going to paint your face. Right. How about the guy that shows up to the bowling alley with the wrist guard? Or the guy that shows up to like a bar pool table with his own pool cue. He's screwing it together. Like, that dude better be Minnesota fat if he's. If he's screwing up his old. His own pool cue.

[Rich]

Woman. The black.

[Covino]

Widow. You better have some game if.

[Dan Byer]

You'Re a closer with some sort of weird facial hair. Not weird, but like long hair, beard, sideburns, mutton chops.

[Covino]

Whatever. That's.

[Dan Byer]

True. Better throw 102. Like that is like Brian Wilson. That is who you are. Like.

[Covino]

Yes. It's got a match. Yeah, it's. It matches his style.

[Dan Byer]

Right? Can't go in there throwing.

[Covino]

Junk. That's.

[Rich]

Fine. Damn buyer. Along with the closer. I don't think. Unless you are a Mariano Rivera and Edward Diaz a Trevor Hoffman, there are certain guys. I don't think everyone deserves an.

[Dan Byer]

Entrance. Correct.

[Rich]

Yes. Not everyone gets Timmy.

[Covino]

Trumpets. It's a good point. You know, if you're going to be face painted like the wild thing that you are, you got to play that.

[Caller or Guest]

Way. A lot of the younger players do. The dripping face paint. Look at J.J.

[Rich]

Mccarthy. Yeah, he said.

[Ad Voice or Announcer]

That.

[Caller or Guest]

Yeah. He didn't exactly play like a warrior this.

[Ad Voice or Announcer]

Season. He.

[Rich]

Tried. It's like the meme goes little league team, $4,000 worth of bats, two.

[Covino]

Hits. So.

[Rich]

True. Sometimes the gear and you know you're spending all this money like I love the golf one. There's so many good ones. But thank you guys for playing along. In fact, we got a lot of feedback and phone calls on Jackson. Dart please. Michael, Roger, Caleb, Everyone hang on the phone. We're going to get your feedback next. Caleb Dart badass or reckless fool? We'll take your feedback on that. We'll talk some more NFL, we'll give away some prizes. There's some baseball news and I'm going to fit this all.

[Ad Voice or Announcer]

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[Rich]

Promise. A hypothetical and it has to do with winning a lot of money and has to do with basketball and I wonder what you and Danny G and everyone thinks. So hang tight. All coming up on.

[Covino]

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[Rich]

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[Rich]

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[Dan Byer]

Doug. Uh, Limu is that guy with the binoculars watching.

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[Covino]

Now. Covino and Rich on Fox Sports.

[Rich]

Radio.

[Covino]

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[Rich]

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[Rich]

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Foolish.

[Covino]

Yeah. What are you trying to ambush me? Missouri.

[Rich]

Bro. What's the state.

[Covino]

Abbreviation? Trying to expose me? Ms. You.

[Rich]

Idiots.

[Covino]

M.O. Mrs.

[Rich]

Mississippi. Come on.

[Covino]

Steve. Dude, you think I don't know? You think I don't know the Gary Goleman routine where he talks about the masterminds involved in the.

[Rich]

Abbreviations. Very funny comedy.

[Covino]

Bit. He does a whole bit on it. Gary playing.

[Rich]

Coleman. Maybe he will. Inside.

[Covino]

Joke. I don't know. Look it up if you don't believe me.

[Rich]

Man. Well, what do we, what do we learn so far? That Jackson Dart is reckless and awesome and badass. But I think the biggest conclusion we came to was that if he continues to wear face paint, he has to be reckless because you can't wear extra eye black and face paint and then like run out of.

[Covino]

Bounds.

[Rich]

Right? You got.

[Covino]

It. It's.

[Rich]

Misleading.

[Covino]

Yeah. It's misrepresentation to some degree. And I just think that he's a 22 year old badass and he's going to play that way and that's leading by example. And these are highlights. Like where are our heads at? We're talking like old guys. Like we're investing in these dudes. Like these are the highlights that we're going to see from years to come. Should I have been like, yeah, Derek Jeter shouldn't have dove into the stands, man. Come on. He put himself at risk. No, as a fan, I want to see that. Not to mention, this is the NFL. It's football. So props to him. As time goes on, he'll switch his game up accordingly. At least you hope so. Badass.

[Jonas Knox]

Fool. Or.

[Covino]

Both. Let's wrap it with your phone calls. We have more things to get to, man. Prizes to give away, things to talk.

[Rich]

About. Michael in Virginia. What's up.

[Caller or Listener]

Mike? Hey, Rich Conveno. Love you guys. You guys are the.

[Covino]

Best. Thanks.

[Caller or Listener]

Buddy. Bro, I like what Jackson Dar is doing. Like you said, he's trying to make a name self. He's trying to put his team on the shoulders. But here's a prime example. This athlete, this NFL quarterback was by far the most freak of nature strongest that I've ever seen in our generation. That's Cam Newton. And his career didn't last long. And even to this day, I that after that Denver Broncos Super Bowl, Denver roughed his world up to where his career is never the same. And so, you know, Jackson Dart, he should be careful. But I mean, even the.

[Covino]

Strongest. Yeah, dude, listen, the NFL does a lot to protect these.

[Rich]

Guys. They protect them now, but still there is a layer of danger. If you're a quarterback that runs Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, there's guys that, you know. I always say Mahomes is really good at tiptoeing out of scenarios. Mahomes never leaves himself vulnerable. Other guys aren't that.

[Dan Byer]

Careful. Jackson Dart is mobile, but he's not as much of a threat as Cam was. Like, I think it was totally a part of Cam's game. So Cam not running or not doing what he should would have hampered his game. He had to be smart about it. You had to get out of bounds. He had to slide and do those things. But I like, Dart's got that ability to move even more so than like someone like Aaron Rodgers, who he thought was more of a passer. But yeah, you just got to. If you're any quarterback, I think you just got to get out of.

[Rich]

Bounds. You know who looked pretty mobile the other night that I was reminded of? You might have heard of him, Marcus Mariota. He ran for what, like almost 50 yards, I think. Sure, Mariota. It's got some.

[Covino]

Legs. We forget that Dart ran for 20 yards, four carries, 20.

[Dan Byer]

Yards. Yesterday, another TikTok of Mario Ta.

[Covino]

Today. Mario Ta people are.

[Rich]

Relentless. That's the only. That's like one of the few benefits of Social media people are pretty funny out there. Other than that, it's.

[Covino]

Terrible. Also.

[Rich]

Brutal. Now let's say hi to Roger in Tacoma. What's up.

[Covino]

Roger? Hey.

[Caller or Listener]

Roger. Hey, how you doing? So I'll give you my story before I give you my opinion. So when Russell Wilson was, maybe Daniel remembers, when he's a rookie, they had just signed Matt Flint, his big contract. He wasn't expected, he wasn't expected to start, but he was so good in training camp, they actually gave him Game 3 of that preseason, which used to be the most important preseason game as a starter. He was doing incredibly well. In the second half. He takes off out of the pocket and he's, he's gaining about 15 yards. And here comes the defender straight at him. And if anyone needed to prove his macho ness, it was Russell Wilson to try to win a job. What did you do? He took a left hand turn and he got out of bounds. And as soon as he did that, I go, that guy's ready to start in the NFL because he's smart. You have to be there for your team. Jackson's already had two stints on the il. You don't have to prove your manliness on the sideline. They need you to play.

[Rich]

Quarterback. You prove your manliness by being out there and playing. Yeah.

[Covino]

Agreed. And by the way, Mario, interesting debate because you're right, you have to be smart. But as a football player, you also like to see that. Mariota.

[Rich]

Mariota. 55.

[Covino]

Yards. 55.

[Rich]

Yeah. Let's say hi to Caleb in Missouri where you can now gamble. Hey.

[Caller or Listener]

Missouri. Hey, guys. Former last man standing. Former second to last man standing.

[Rich]

Here.

[Caller or Listener]

Yeah. So the last caller, I think hits it on the head too is like, what are you trying to prove? Well, on a two win team, you're trying to prove what you can take a hit that you know where the medical tent is. I don't think that proves anything. I think Giants fans would much rather see him prove he can read a cover four, go through his progressions. I mean, let's see, let's open the offense in that way. Let's understand if we have the quarterback of the future, let's not understand that. Oh, you're really tough. You can take a hit, I get it. Gets the guys going. But on a team that's going to draft in the top five, what are we motivating.

[Rich]

Here? Yeah, honestly, you ain't kidding. This team has promise if healthy, but they have a lot of guys that are injury prone. We'll see what.

[Covino]

Happens. By the way. Two great calls and I can't say they're wrong. Right. They're right. But it's in their competitive nature. You're telling them to tone it down. They're playing Monday Night Football. This dude's going all out. So I understand. But you know, you guys make great points. Badass fool. Or both. Thank you again. You could chime in at Covino and.

[Rich]

Rich. Now before we get to Mahomes Showtime trivia before we get to some more NFL and oh my God, this. I sound like a girl there. Oh, my God, I sound like my wife. Oh, my God. Oh, how about this? Oh.

[Covino]

Lordy. Oh my.

[Rich]

God. There are five NFL games this week that are so unbelievably important. I was looking at the schedule and I got like, I got a little NFL in my.

[Covino]

Pants Thanksgiving.

[Rich]

Season. Holy bananas. Well, we'll talk NFL. We're going to play schedule watching. Oh, schedule.

[Covino]

Watching. I.

[Rich]

Was. Sam the Rich loves to look at the schedule, game, schedule watching. We're going to get tired of that. I want to go over. I'll never get tired of.

[Covino]

That. Can we pause, though and take in the fact that it's week 14? Yeah. That's insane.

[Rich]

Dude. So five games we'll go over coming up. And a hypothetical that will really get you thinking. I was not hired drunk when I thought of this, but it's still a good one. But first, let's go to Dan Byer for an Update. Our pal D.B. what's up.

[Dan Byer]

Man? Guys, some waves being made in college football as Ole Miss offensive coordinator Charlie Weiss Jr. Who's going to join Lane Kiffin staff in Baton Rouge at LSU while he is going to coach Ole Miss through the College Football Playoff. So Charlie Weiss Jr. Will be running the offense as Lane is now in Baton Rouge. He'll rejoin the new coaching staff once the Rebels playoff run ends. Kalani Sataki is reportedly no longer a candidate to be the next head coach at Penn State. ESPN reports that Sataki has told those close to him that he is staying at BYU. Boston College AD Blake James announced head football coach Bill O' Brien will be back in 2026. The Pittsburgh Steelers claimed wide receiver Adam Thielen off of waivers from the Minnesota Vikings. Lions wide receiver Amon Ross St. Brown missed his second straight practice today because of an ankle injury. He says it still up in the air on whether he will be able to play Thursday against the Cowboys. Free agent wide receiver Elijah Morris signing with the Broncos and Niners GM John lynch said he was hopeful but wasn't sure if it was realistic. The wide receiver Brandon Ayuk suits up at all this season when he spoke with KNBR earlier today. Sesame street helped raise all of us. Now it's our turn. Donate this holiday [e-mail] because the world needs sesame and Sesame needs you. Some NBA news Pelicans forward Zion Williamson's going to miss at least three weeks of action because of an adductor strained Danilo Gallinari announced that he is retiring from professional basketball. And 21st ranked Kansas will be without Darren Peterson tonight against number five UConn, the seventh straight game he's missed because of a hamstring strain. Finally, Tiger woods says he continues to recover from an October surgery to replace a disc in his lower back. Unfortunately, I've been through this rehab process.

[Rich]

Before. It's just step by.

[Dan Byer]

Step. And then once I get a feel for practicing, exploding, playing the recovery process, then I can assess where I'm going to play and how much I'll play. Na says the recovery so far has been slow as he's only been able to chip and putt guys. Back to.

[Covino]

You. Thank you, Dan Beyer. And isn't it interesting how Dan Byer's career is not only given updates, but it's like health updates. It's like you almost have to pivot and know like medical terms and expectations. Like your whole job is now shifting into like medical updates, injury.

[Dan Byer]

Updates. I think that it plays a role in betting and in fantasy. It's actually why I think that information people want to know for their fantasy teams. I want to know for lines in Tiger woods. Just because it's become so much of a conversation about Tiger woods and in specifically Zion.

[Caller or Guest]

Williamson.

[Dan Byer]

Right. Hurt.

[Covino]

Again. That's the one that baffled me the most. I'm like, geez, are you saying.

[Rich]

Like Dan Byer, much like a TV doctor knows enough to, if he needed to, like, do he has.

[Dan Byer]

To. It's I could do minor.

[Covino]

Surgery. Yeah. Yeah. Like, he has to know a little more than the average sports.

[Rich]

Guy. We've had the dumb thought when it comes to injuries. We've had the dumb thought, Dan Byer, that if you've played a doctor on a TV show that lasted years and years, do you think just, you know, more than the average guy just.

[Covino]

By, let's say you were on a plane. All right, you're on a plane. Like, is there any doctors here? I would trust that guy more than any other.

[Rich]

Guy. So it's like, oh, do we have any doctors? Do we have anyone that played a TV doctor that's like number.

[Covino]

Two. Yeah, it has to.

[Rich]

Be. Does anyone do sports injury updates? Yeah, Dan.

[Covino]

Byers. Dan Byers. Like, I know a little something about high ankle.

[Dan Byer]

Sprains. If someone on a plane suffered a right adductor strain, I would say the next three weeks are not going to be good for.

[Rich]

You. Is it your turf toe in Iowa in row 5? Turf.

[Covino]

Top. What if Dan pulls out like a. Is it Liz Frank? Is that a type of Liz Frank, Liz Frank.

[Rich]

Injury? That's going to really impress.

[Covino]

Me. Updates, man. But thank you.

[Rich]

Dan. By the way, Dan Byer, not the three on the spot. I know that's a trend recently. Don't want to put people on the spot. But my dude, Brandon Iuk, is there any incentive for him to play at all this year for the Niners? Because I, like you said, every day I feel like reporters and update guys like you are getting mixed. But he wants to play. He may be now it's like he doesn't look like he's going.

[Dan Byer]

To. No. Doesn't make any sense. I think it would not. I think it would ruin the chemistry. Guys need to know their roles in the playoffs and to try to incorporate Brandon Iuk in the postseason. Doesn't make any sense.

[Rich]

Yeah. Well, hey, what a weird. What a weird story that is when you think about how Iuk didn't want to be a Niner, then signed some big deal, gets hurt immediately and then never really plays for the.

[Covino]

Niners. Hey, Rich, not that I'm not listening, but what do you think of Jackson Dart's nerdle neck that he's rocking at the press conference? That's a the Allah George Styren or.

[Rich]

Turtleneck. That's a guy that steps out of.

[Covino]

Bounds. All right, maybe he's like, yeah, maybe I'm toning it down moving forward, I'm going to rock a.

[Rich]

Turtleneck. Now, if he wears a turtleneck with like tinted glasses, then yes. All right, we got more Kavino and Rich. Dumb hypothetical. Bunch more NFL all coming your way here on FOX Sports.

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[Rich]

[e-mail] and Doug here we have the Limu Emu in its natural habitat, helping people customize their car insurance and save hundreds with Liberty Mutual. Fascinating. It's accompanied by his natural ally.

[Dan Byer]

Doug. Uh, Limu is that guy with the binoculars watching.

[Rich]

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[Rich]

Night how to be a DJ in 90s New York.

[Jonas Knox]

City. All right, like we talked about before, Mark Ronson found sanctuary in the DJ booth. What's a tool or piece of equipment in the studio or on stage.

[Rich]

That gives you the most.

[Dan Byer]

Control? So I have two microphones on stage. We have the microphone that you hear as the audience. Then we have a second microphone in which we communicate with each other. I feel like that second microphone kind of saved all of our friendships. No band likes each other after 20 years or 25 years? The Beatles broke up in seven and a half years and we're going on.

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[Covino]

Podcasts. By the way.

[Dan Byer]

Rich.

[Covino]

Yeah? Santa Claus is on his way to you in your backwards.

[Rich]

Hat. By the way, look at this shirt. What a sweet shirt I have. If you're watching on YouTube, look at this bad.

[Covino]

Boy. You should throw that in your fire.

[Rich]

Pit. Savage AF with a big head of Fred Savage. Well, you're not a fan of the wonder.

[Covino]

Years. I.

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Am. You.

[Rich]

Too?

[Covino]

Good. But not enough to have Fred Savage on my.

[Caller or Guest]

Shirt. Fred Savage wears his hat backwards.

[Covino]

Too. Are you sure it's not Ben? It looks like Ben Savage.

[Rich]

Anyway. You're Ben.

[Covino]

Savage. Even weaker. Covino and Rich live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. And it's time for our tire rack play of the day. Patriots ran away with the game and the Giants gave us one of the strangest special teams plays you'll ever.

[Jonas Knox]

See. Good push in the middle, high.

[Covino]

Snap. The kick got down to the.

[Rich]

Right. No, he.

[Caller or Listener]

Didn'T. He never kicked it. He never kicked.

[Rich]

It. He.

[Jonas Knox]

Kicked. Go to a timeout with 6:22.

[Rich]

To go here in a.

[Covino]

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[Rich]

Ho. I believe him. In fact, it's not Young Hoku.

[Covino]

Unfortunately. No, it is Young Way coo. I made. I actually made the same mistake. I said Young Hoku once and I got laughed.

[Rich]

At. Is Young.

[Covino]

Waiku. What I hear. I texted you guys about that. I know, but I thought you were wrong and lying or joking or something. No, no, very serious. Yeah, I know it looks like that, but I mean, I hear them say that, but then again, I trust you.

[Rich]

Sam. Dan's nodding his.

[Dan Byer]

Head. Sam's.

[Caller or Guest]

Right.

[Dan Byer]

Yep. It's Young.

[Rich]

Waiku. Young.

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[Rich]

That? I believe him, by the way. We're going to talk about it later. You think it's a weak ass excuse? I believe.

[Covino]

Him. Well, I'm a little flip floppy on it because I saw two different angles of the ball. He said that the ball was slipping, moving a little bit. So he held up. And that's why, you know.

[Rich]

What? Hell, why put the conversation on.

[Dan Byer]

Hold? Let's.

[Covino]

Start. I wasn't trying to, I mean.

[Rich]

Listen to the dude, right? Kind of slipped out at the.

[Dan Byer]

Bottom. So it was moving, you know, I wasn't able to kick through the ball. The ball was moving when I was driving to it, so I just pulled up on it. You pulled.

[Rich]

Up? Your leg didn't get.

[Dan Byer]

Stuck? No, no, I couldn't. As I was driving through it, the ball was. The bottom of the ball was slipping out, so I just pulled up on.

[Covino]

It. Sam, I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I thought he was way coo until yesterday. There you go. Very good. Cause that was weak.

[Rich]

Dude. I think he's still way cool because, I mean, I think I saw the side angle in slow motion and it was just so minimal. But when you're a kicker, the long snapper, the holder, this is a game of precision. And I did see a little.

[Jonas Knox]

Slippage.

[Rich]

Yeah. The ball was not.

[Caller or Guest]

Upright. That wasn't a hold up, that was a.

[Covino]

Misfire. I saw two different angles. One angle you like, you know, it's not moving. What's he talking about? Then you do see another one and they readjust it last minute. But I don't know, it looked very much like he missed his target. He timed it wrong or he just didn't. His step was off, you know, because he kicks the ground pretty hard. So your thoughts on.

[Rich]

That? Are you an excuse maker? By the way. And you are? The answer is yes, I was. I'll answer for you. If we go bowling and Covino stinks, it's always the oil on the lanes isn't.

[Covino]

Right. But that's true. If you throw with a hook, you can't. If the lanes are.

[Rich]

Oil. If we go to the gym and play pickup basketball or 21 or something. If Covino stinks had the ball was not inflated the right way. Covino's an excuse guy with.

[Covino]

Sports. I mean, I never thought of myself that way. But if you want to like, put me out there on national radio as that guy and you want me to be that guy, then I guess I will.

[Jonas Knox]

Be.

[Rich]

Wow. I guess you're the hey COO of the.

[Covino]

Show. I know, man. And Rich is just the.

[Rich]

Greatest. You're the way.

[Covino]

Coo. He doesn't justify every wrong answer that he gets on Last one.

[Rich]

Standing. I'm a man that sticks by my.

[Covino]

Mistakes. Rich isn't the guy that justifies every single thing he says.

[Caller or Guest]

Wrong. Rich is used to love slighted balls at the.

[Covino]

Gym. I mean, he is, he is right about the bowling thing. But let's talk about the worst excuses. Let's say he's full of it. I don't know. In reality though, it's a tough call. I'm not sure what happened there. I'm really not. I see two different angles of. It does move a little bit, but enough for that. I don't know. Worst excuses based on that though, it looked.

[Rich]

Painful. Like if you're pulling up and you're just jamming your foot into the ground, that's like.

[Covino]

Why? That's like extra damage. Like, don't you feel you did that messing around, trying to kick a field goal? You hurt your toe. It's possible. I feel like I've done that. So we'll get to your phone calls next right here on Cavino and.

[Rich]

Rich. Okay, only 10 more presents to.

[Covino]

Wrap. You're almost at the finish line. But first, shining bright. There, the last one. Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that.

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[Rich]

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