C&R - Dodger Haters & the Old-School Way

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show (C&R): Dodger Haters & the Old-School Way

Date: February 26, 2026
Podcast: The Dan Patrick Show (Covino & Rich segment)
Hosts: Covino and Rich (C&R), with Dan Byer, Danny G, Iowa Sam

Episode Overview

This episode dives into the growing animosity towards the Los Angeles Dodgers and the shifting mentality in sports and media about loyalty versus the desire to win or succeed. Covino & Rich use recent player comments and sports culture trends to discuss how old-school values like building a winning team from scratch are being replaced with the “if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em” philosophy—both celebrated and lamented. The hosts also relate this to experiences in broadcasting, pop culture, and life.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Why Do People Hate the Los Angeles Dodgers?

• Numerous stories in sports media “poo pooing on Los Angeles” and framing the Dodgers as baseball’s “evil empire.”
• Covino: “They're officially the evil empire… I'll start with my boy first… Jazz Chisholm.” [05:27]
• Several prominent players express reluctance to join the Dodgers because of their powerhouse status, favoring the idea of becoming a hero elsewhere (e.g., Jazz Chisholm preferring the Angels over the Dodgers).

2. Jazz Chisholm’s Old-School Mindset

• Jazz Chisholm Jr. implies he'd rather “build the roof” with another team than join an already successful Dodgers squad:

  “I'd rather build my roof than go to the Dodgers." (Jazz Chisholm, relayed by Covino) [05:48]

• The attitude surfaces classic sports values (“Be the star that changes a franchise”) vs. the modern preference for joining strong teams for a title run.

3. Big Fish, Small Pond or Small Fish, Big Pond?

• Covino: "Would you rather be the big fish in the small pond, or the small fish in the big pond?" [07:48]
• Rich: Relates to personal experience in rec sports, debating whether it's more satisfying to be the star on a lesser team or a role player on a powerhouse.
• The conversation translates to career and life: Is it better to stand out in a smaller setting or blend into greatness with others?

4. Changing Attitudes: ‘If You Can’t Beat Them, Join Them’

• This was once viewed as “loser mentality”—now widely accepted as the smart, winning move:

  “If you can't beat them, join them… what we used to frown upon… has become accepted.” (Covino) [13:24] “That used to be a loser mentality, and now we're kind of telling you what used to be a loser mentality is the winning mentality.” (Covino) [14:58]

• Discussion of “old heads” frowning on new school thinking, referencing NBA stars and free agency trends.

5. Regional Fan Differences: LA vs. NY

• PCA (Cubs) sparks controversy by labeling Dodgers fans as casual, more focused on selfies than the game:

  “Dodgers fans are sort of, you know, show up when they want, casual fans.” (Rich, relaying PCA) [16:47]

• East Coast vs. West Coast fan dynamics:
  • Danny G: "There's also some fans that are true baseball fans." [17:20]
  • Rich: Notes that LA crowds may appear less invested until playoff time due to more entertainment options and lifestyle differences.
• Covino: “It's all about them and less about the game. It's all about, look at me and look where I'm at.” [19:03]

6. Sports Loyalty vs. Convenience: A Cultural Shift

• Parallels drawn between sports, broadcasting, music, and late-night TV.
• Rich: “Late night TV… Letterman, Leno hated each other. Now… Fallon and Kimmel and Colbert… they're like buddies… All-Star games, Pete Rose would like slide cleats up… now people are laughing and bro hugging.” [29:28]
  • Similar trends in music collaborations, radio rivalry, and even wrestling promotions.
• Old school: Fierce, sometimes petty, competition.
• New school: Collaborations, cross-promotion, shared successes.

7. Adapting or Becoming Obsolete

• Hosts reflect on their own careers:

  “If you don't adjust your mindset, you become a dinosaur… You have to be willing to play the game the way it's played today.” (Covino) [38:24]

• New mentality: Build audience by appearing on each other’s podcasts, share audiences, network with “competition.”
• Old mentality: Refuse to acknowledge competition; strive to be the fiercest and best in isolation.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Covino (on Dodgers): “They're officially the evil empire.” [05:27]
• Rich (on team choice): “Would you want to be on, like, the Bunk Sports Radio network and Covino and Rich are like, the only show they have that's good?” [10:09]
• Covino (the shift): “If you can't beat them, join them… That used to be a loser mentality, and now we're kind of telling you what used to be a loser mentality is the winning mentality.” [14:58]
• Covino (on loyalty): “You don't play for the enemy… And all of a sudden it's, hey, you know what I realized? If you can't beat them, join them. It's not so bad. But you realize that it's a winning formula and it kind of works and we've accepted it.” [28:11]
• Rich (broadcasting rivalry): "I remember radio stations would pull stunts to F with other radio stations like Sabotage… They had a couple of promo guys stall out their cars in front of the gas station and ruin their whole promotion.” [31:51]
• Danny G (radio management): “Our general manager had a staff meeting with all of us and he wore a hard army helmet and he was ranting about how we were going to kill the competition.” [31:23]
• Dan Byer (news): “If you're listening to Fox Sports Radio, you don't have to listen to the competitor because we're going to tell you everything that you need to know, whether it comes from ESPN or CBS Sports.” [36:26]

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [05:27] – “Dodgers as the Evil Empire” intro and Jazz Chisholm’s comments
• [07:48] – “Big fish, small pond” debate
• [13:24]-[14:58] – “If you can’t beat them, join them” mindset shift
• [16:47] – PCA’s claim about LA fans (vs. Cubs fans)
• [19:03] – “All about them and less about the game” (casual fandom in LA)
• [29:28] – Music, pop culture, and media analogies for rivalry vs. collaboration
• [31:23] – “Old school radio wars” story
• [36:26] – On sports media and acknowledging competitors
• [38:24] – Adapting or becoming obsolete in the new sports/media world

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Conclusion: A New Era of Sports and Media Mindset

• The perception of LA and the Dodgers as "villains" is a product of both their dominance and the changing attitude toward sports loyalty.
• Old guard (Jazz Chisholm’s sentiment): Be a hero by building from nothing, beat the best rather than joining.
• New reality (C&R’s acceptance): Survival and success often mean teaming up, even with rivals; collaboration is celebrated.
• This shift permeates not only sports but entertainment, media, and everyday life—a recurring "if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em" ethos.

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Listeners will take away an entertaining, honest discussion of how competition, ambition, and loyalty have evolved for both athletes and regular folks, with rich personal stories and classic sports talk humor.

Transcript

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[Covino]

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[Covino]

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[Rich]

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[Covino]

Hey, that's us. And we are on. And we are live on a hump day. It's gonna be a hump night.

[Rich]

Yeah, bro.

[Covino]

Wednesday, Friday. But we're halfway there.

[Rich]

It was a hump midday.

[Covino]

Oh, wow. Little T. TMI broadcasting live from the Fox sports radio studio. If you notice Rich's mustache, that's probably why he's getting his hump on. Who are you? Ned Lasso. Ned Lasso.

[Rich]

Ned Lasso and Kavino.

[Covino]

Covino and Lasso. Remember, if you want to see the stupid mustache, I mean rich and us. YouTube.com@covino and Rich FSR. So thank you for rocking out with us. We are streaming live. You can watch what you hear. You can see Rich's stash. Covino and Rich fsr. And today we give away prizes. We got Mike's heartfelt Wednesday words of

[Rich]

wisdom and who's going to be throwing down some midweek major. Is that Iowa Sam again?

[Covino]

Is it Sammy, sweetheart?

[Dan Byer]

Sammy.

[Rich]

I can't wait.

[Covino]

That's me.

[Rich]

Still working on midweek major.

[Ad Read Announcer]

It's been a very busy day.

[Dan Byer]

We will have it ready.

[Rich]

You better get on it.

[Covino]

So these are the biggest stories in the world of sports and pop culture. We do that every Wednesday and we decide are these stories mid as the kiddo say, mediocre, mid weak or major stories? We'll figure it out together. Plus Danny G is here super producing. Thank you, Danny g. For everything. 87799 on Fox. Dan Byers hanging out.

[Rich]

Well, we got a lot lot to get to. We're going to talk about interrupting farts. There's a funny NBA story we're going to talk about.

[Covino]

There's an old radio rule, Rich, you never lead with the fart story.

[Rich]

That's what big Mike said.

[Covino]

Yeah, yeah, we'll get to that.

[Rich]

We can't lead with farts, guys.

[Covino]

Which is like it throws my world upside down because I always lead with far. Mike says no care, guys.

[Rich]

Bad radio.

[Covino]

Radio rule. Never lead with farts.

[Rich]

So interrupting farts in the NBA, there's a fun list we're going to have you guys play along. Can you guess what they consider the greatest NFL nicknames of all time? We'll get to that. But there's a lot of people trashing Los Angeles, California, Danny. All the articles, all the prep we send each other. There was a trend. There was a commonality between a bunch of the stories, and they were all sort of poo pooing on Los Angeles.

[Danny G]

Yeah, it was a running theme. I screenshot this one and that one and I'm like, wait, this is the third one today. Talking s About L. A.

[Covino]

Well, they're officially the evil empire. And I'll start with my boy first. Okay. And you could talk about pca.

[Danny G]

Start with the wikis.

[Covino]

I'll start with my guy, Jazz Chisholm.

[Rich]

The New York week.

[Covino]

Jazz Chisholm says, I'd go to the Angels.

[Rich]

Did you pull a Keith Hernandez and call him Chaz Jism?

[Ad Read Announcer]

No.

[Covino]

You're just thinking in the gutter with that mustache, you creep. I'd go to the Angels before I go to the Dodgers. He says, I'd want to go and win by myself. I'd rather build my roof than go to the Dodgers. That's Jazz Chisholm Jr. On the possibility of getting free agency. An offer from the Dodgers, Again, that's a hypothetical. If it were to happen, he says he'd rather build the team than go on an existing winning team.

[Danny G]

Well, he wouldn't be expected to win, bro.

[Rich]

Yo, this is absurd. I want to call out, oh, Jazz. Jazz Chisholm. Because this is. I get what he's saying.

[Dan Byer]

Because this is.

[Rich]

This is an old school sentiment. This is a world where players used to say things like, well, I'm going to go there and I'm going to be part of the solution and I'm going to build the team. And that old mindset of, like, you know what? No, it's appealing. Dan Byer, Danny G. Everyone will back me up. Remember back in the day, there was like a lure to, like, maybe I'll be the quarterback that turns around the Cleveland Browns. Maybe I'll be the guy that turns around said bunk franchise. And then slowly but surely you realize, nah, it just sort of ruined your career. So I have a newfound. I wouldn't say respect, but I have a newfound understanding of why Kyle Tucker

[Covino]

could be the catalyst or the one person or one thing that turns it around. But you could also be Mike Trout. You could also be the one guy playing on the Angels for a doo doo team.

[Rich]

You got to be LeBron James. To make the Cleveland Cavaliers a winner in LeBron's youth and prime. My point being, Kyle Tucker, Edwin Diaz, you know, guys that go to big market teams, can you blame them? Because as Big Mike said in our pre show meeting, when they retire, no one ever criticizes. Oh, man. But they, they were on a good team. No, if you're on a good team, you're on a good team. Like that's.

[Covino]

I mean, there's.

[Rich]

Who doesn't want to be on a good team?

[Covino]

There's the old sentiment of if you can't beat them, join them. Right. How do you feel about that? Because it seems like people don't hesitate to join the Dodgers nowadays. Jazz is saying otherwise. And it's the big fish, little pond theory. You know, it's would you rather be the big fish in a little pond or the small fish in the big pond sort of deal. That's really what it comes down to. And Jazz Chisholm is saying, straight up, you know, I'd rather be the big fish in the smaller pond. I'd rather be the star of the Angels than be just another player on the Dodgers who, you know, already are a championship caliber team. I'd rather be the guy that makes the difference than joining the winning team.

[Rich]

And this is a very relatable sentiment. Not just in sports.

[Dan Byer]

Right.

[Rich]

I mean, in life.

[Covino]

Yeah. What are your thoughts?

[Rich]

In career, in anything you do? I. You know, there's two examples I could think about just from being a regular dude. When I play rec sports, there are teams I play on where I'm the best on the team.

[Covino]

They call you wreck it Rich. Right.

[Rich]

If I'm batting third and playing shortstop every game, it's not the best team. I'm good. But, like, that means it's not the best team. When there's guys that are younger and guys that are fresh out of college, on a softball team, I'm on, and it's like, yeah, Rich, you're betting seventh and you're playing third base or you're left field. I almost feel like, all right, that's a really good team then. Yeah, but do you want to be.

[Covino]

Do you want to be the best on your team? Is. Is a good feeling. And I'm just playing devil's advocate. Yeah, I know it is a good feeling and it's good for the ego, but is it small time thinking is the question.

[Rich]

Like, Chaz Chisholm's a great example. If he were on the Angels, he's

[Covino]

the star, but it's not like he's Playing for a schlub team. He's playing for the New York Yankees. Right. So this once again proves that the Dodgers really are the evil empire. When you got a New York Yankee and Jazz Chisholm saying, nah, I wouldn't play for them. I'd rather play for the Angels.

[Rich]

So ask yourself this. We do a sports talk radio show, a podcast, for years now. Isn't there something to be said about. We're sort of like on the Dodgers. We're on a network where I'd like to think we're number three to Colin Cowherd and Dan Patrick.

[Covino]

Hey, dude, I heard what Number one, according to my mom.

[Rich]

Your mom's okay. I thought so.

[Covino]

I talked to her today. She said, we're the best.

[Rich]

Steven, you're number one.

[Covino]

Yeah. She said we're the best show.

[Rich]

We are on a network that's stacked. Right. Would you rather. Would you want that? Would you want to be on, like, the Bunk Sports Radio network and Covino and Rich are, like, the only show they have that's good.

[Covino]

You know, when you put it that way, and it's a great way to look at it, put yourself in that situation when Rich positions it that way. Yeah, I'd rather be with the best. I'd rather be part of the best lineup, the premier sports lineup in the nation, as they say.

[Rich]

Now you're just reading the sign right here.

[Danny G]

I am.

[Covino]

I'm reading the sign right here because it's true. Fox Sports Radio's lineup is stacked. I'm proud to be a part of that. As opposed to being the biggest show on the Bunk Radio network.

[Rich]

Right. This network has legitimate shows around the clock.

[Covino]

Doesn't that also motivate you? Like, it doesn't mean you have to still be the third best. Right.

[Rich]

Or.

[Covino]

Or just part of the lineup. You're there. You continue to build from there. Just because you played for the Dodgers doesn't mean you don't. You can't be the best guy on the team.

[Dan Byer]

Right.

[DraftKings Announcer]

You're.

[Covino]

You're playing with the best. You still try to be the best.

[Rich]

Can you give me an example? Think about it. NBA, NFL, Major league Baseball. I'm leaving out hockey because I just don't know it. I'll be honest. Can you think of a star player at a college out of the draft that made such an impact? Where they took their crappy team and immediately made them a contender? Where some guy went to a Cleveland maker like, I think Steph Curry changed the culture in Golden State. Now you could say Clay and Draymond they had other pieces. But Steph Curry took a Golden State warriors team. As the joke went. Danny Tanner and Full House was the only Golden State Warrior fan that you know. Remember when you played NBA Jam, you're like, you had friends that were like, is Golden State like where's that? Where is that? It's like Chris Mullen was the only guy, you know, Hardaway. They were. Golden State was put on the map by Steph. The Cleveland Cavaliers weren't sniffing any success until LeBron came there.

[Covino]

Does that be a player? Because isn't that story of Vince Lombardi like didn't he sort of change the whole culture of Green Bay?

[Rich]

Vince Lombardi wasn't the story like no one. Didn't he take the job and the whole fable is that he didn't know where Green Bay, Wisconsin was.

[Covino]

Yeah, look, he became legend. So just put that in your pipe and smoke on it for a minute. You can become the legend.

[Rich]

But do you understand that like if,

[Covino]

if based on Jazz Chisholm's theory, if he's the one guy that could change the franchise, man, you're forever remembered.

[Rich]

But there's my, my point is we just named.

[Covino]

If you're the guy on the Dodgers, you're just part of the story.

[Rich]

But we just named five or less. We can name five or less people in the last hundred years of sports. So my point is it's a little egocentric when a quarterback's like, I want to go to the Browns or imagine right now, Danny G, be honest with me. Do you think there is someone that thinks I. The ego would be speaking, I could go to the jets and I'm the difference maker. Aaron Rodgers probably thought that. Yeah, a lot of people probably thought that.

[Danny G]

It's probably a little far fetched thinking now, but yeah, when Aaron Rodgers first went there, that was what he was thinking for sure. It has to be a super alpha dog.

[Covino]

I think that. Well, I'm, I'm hate I feel bad saying this, but I feel like it. I feel that doesn't mean it's true. In my mind it is. But I feel this started with the NBA. I really do. Like if you can't beat them, join them sort of mentality. And I think what's what we used to frown upon, that sentiment has become accepted and a smarter way to think like, hey man, are you in this to win or are you in this for yourself and your legacy? And if you're in this to win, then yeah, if you can't beat them, join them is an acceptable Way to be. But remember, that used to be a frowned upon philosophy and mentality. Like, joining them.

[Rich]

You could argue. You could argue back in the 80s and 90s, and I know the NBA, man, they got such a.

[Covino]

They're.

[Rich]

They, they're hung up on this. Like, you know, back in the day, like when, you know, Ewing was on the Knicks, Malone was on the Jazz, they sparked, he was on the Suns.

[Covino]

Like, that's why Allen Iverson said publicly, that's why they frown. The old crew, the old heads frown upon the new school ways of thinking. Because back then, whatever team you were on, you hated the other teams and you wanted to win with your team, you were loyal to that team. Nowadays, these pros ain't loyal. So you remember, like, that philosophy used to be frowned upon. Now it's just accepted. I mean, it's just how it is because you only get such a certain amount of time, you only get a certain amount of window to win in the league and to make it happen. So, like, you kind of get it. If you can't beat them, join them. I would say that used to be a loser mentality, and now we're kind of telling you what used to be a loser mentality is the winning mentality.

[Rich]

Can't beat them, join them.

[Covino]

Yes. Okay. With me, that used to be a loser mentality. I just want to make that clear. So that's where jazz is coming from.

[Rich]

It's like how nerd became the new cool.

[Covino]

Yes.

[Rich]

Like, things change. Remember, you go back to your old college town. The bars that were cool are now the lane bars. The lame bars are now the cool bars.

[Covino]

Yeah, but you know what the winning mentality was? Yeah. If you can't beat them, join them. That's losers. No, you try to beat them, you don't join them, you try to beat them. So I respect where it's coming from. It's just a dated mindset.

[Rich]

Would you say the last of. The last of these we're forgetting is. I mean, I know they had success. You know, when we were. Before we were born and we're little babies. The Milio Bucks, Giannis, I mean, that team was really sort of a nothing team. And Giannis wins an NBA title for Milwaukee.

[Covino]

Yeah. Like, that's why he. That's a good example.

[Rich]

I think that was an extra level of props people gave him because it's like, yo, he stayed in Milwaukee. And that's why I think people understand if he wants to leave now, the dude paid his dues.

[Covino]

So what do you think about the Again, new philosophies that we've accepted throughout the years. You can't beat them. Join them. And the next story involves pca. Again, it's a lot of hate against the Dodgers today as we approach the World Baseball Classic and baseball starting next month. Spring training is already here.

[Rich]

People hate LA. It's like 80 and sunny, huh? Not much to hate right now.

[Covino]

Well, PCA also talking smack.

[Rich]

PCA met prospect that they just sort of gave away. But hey, Chicago Cubby, he was getting some buzz the other day by saying that Cubs fans given s. They aren't just baseball fans who go to the game like Dodgers fans to take pictures. They don't pay attention. Saying Dodgers fans are sort of, you know, show up when they want casual fans. And I'm not going to lie to

[Covino]

you, he's saying Cubs fans pay attention to the game. They're not just there for the, for the gram. And to say they were like Dodgers fans.

[Rich]

While the Dodgers are a dynasty that we're seeing before our eyes.

[Covino]

Dodgers set a record in attendance last year with 4 million tickets bought.

[Rich]

I agree. But isn't there a party that does feel like they are a little casual Dodgers fans?

[DraftKings Announcer]

Yeah.

[Covino]

Yes, absolutely. No knock on you, Danny.

[Rich]

I think it's a West coast, east coast thing, Danny. I mean it's not as intense.

[Danny G]

I mean I could see how you say that. But there's, there's also some fans that are true baseball fans.

[Rich]

You're one of them. But I'm saying it's, I'm not comparing it to the east coast west coast hip hop battles of the 90s, but there is a battle of like how sports fans react East Coast, West Coast. And I'm fascinated that during baseball season we grew up in New York, sports radio, tv, people would talk constantly about all the time, met Yankees, met Yankees, met Yankees. Out here people will casually be like, hey, may go to the Dodgers next week, show up in the third inning, leave before the traffic and then, then they zone in.

[Danny G]

When it's playoff time, there's a lot to do. There's, there's a lot of competition with your, your money, your entertainment dollars. And there's people there that have the money to go to those games where the real fans can't get in because they don't have the money.

[Covino]

It's like you see our very own Jason Stewart posted this, right? He goes, so let me get this straight out of the 4 million tickets bought to see the Dodgers, people are paying ridiculous costs of parking and beer and food. Waited in two Hours in their car to leave the parking lot, all just to take pictures. He's saying, no, we're legitimate fans out here rooting on the Dodgers, I think.

[Rich]

But you're talking about J. Stu and Danny G. Sports fans, guys that work in sports radio, guys that I know are die hard. There's a lot of people that casually go to. I think there's more. I'm going to casually take my company's tickets and go to the Dodgers game than other big teams.

[Covino]

I just think based on all this, it's proof today that the Dodgers are really the evil empire. Because we come, at least I come from a place of, yeah, I get it. But you know what? They're doing good business. They're putting money back into their own team.

[Danny G]

And to be fair, there's sideline sitters in New York City as well who just want to be seen by the cameras. Oh, it happens in all big cities.

[Covino]

It happens everywhere. It's just the culture, especially with young people. It's all about them and less about the game. It's all about, look at me and look where I'm at. As opposed to really caring.

[Rich]

You know how we would always judge that on the East Coast. Let me take you to New York for a second, Danny. Depending on what team's doing better, and I hate to say it, a lot, a lot of the time it was Yankees better looking crowd. It's a true story. Whatever team is doing better has better looking fans. And it just shows, like, what's the hotter, cooler thing to go to when the Mets have little moments of like, ooh, the Mets are looking good, the fans look better.

[Covino]

But it's hard to hate on something that's working. Dodgers are making lots of money putting it back into the team and they're getting hate for it. They're getting hate for it. So what are your thoughts? 87799 on Fox. We're giving you ours. And again, the accepted way of thinking today of you can't beat them, join them, can't beat. What do you think about that?

[Rich]

That's old school. Like, I think mocking that is old school. I think it's, it's a straight up, hey, can't beat him. Hey, you want to win a ring? You want to be surrounded by winners, have your agent call, but it is

[Covino]

an easier path to victory. Yeah, but then I think that's what Chaz is getting at. He'd rather be an angel than be a Dodger.

[Rich]

But I'll be honest, at this stage of the game, when you're a professional making a ton of money. I know that competitive spirit's there, but isn't there a party that's like, yeah, you know what some of these guys like, I'm making so much money, I really want to win.

[Covino]

Dude, when you put it in, like I said, perspective of who would I rather play for, the Bunk Radio Network or the Fox Sports Radio Network? Of course I'd rather play for Fox.

[Rich]

You want to be surrounded by winners.

[Covino]

Yeah. Just trying to give you the flip side of it as well.

[Rich]

You know, it should be an interesting field study this year, Luis Robert Jr. On the Mets, because that guy had all the promise in the world. And for the last two years he sort of faded away a little bit. And you could argue, is it because he was just on the White Sox in a lineup with no one? Like, would you be shocked if that guy showed up big time? Because it's like now he's on a team that could actually compete. I'm really intrigued to see how he does because I think sometimes it even determines your vibe, your attitude, everything.

[Covino]

So you're saying where you think you would shine the brightest, you actually don't shine at all because there's no one there complimenting you.

[Rich]

Like I said, it's a Cleveland Browns quarterback position. Time after time, some college kids like, I'll be the guy because who wouldn't want it? Your ego tells you I want to be the guy. There's going to be someone that eventually wins in Cleveland, and everyone's like, I want to be that guy. Because then all of a sudden, you're just the man. But you know what? Cooler to do it somewhere else, if you ask me. All right, more Kavino and Rich, more fun. Today we're going to do midweek major with I Was Sam. We got Mike's words of wisdom. We're going to talk about interrupting farts of the NBA and some NFL nicknames. A lot of fun on a random Wednesday. Kavino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio

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[Covino]

You really gotta put yourself in the old school mindset, Rich, to understand what we're talking about. I think we've moved on so quickly.

[Rich]

Old school mindset. I have a mustache today. I'm already there.

[Covino]

No, it's true. Because think about it. Think of an opposing team or an opposing gang or an opposing anything company. Right?

[Rich]

They were the enemy.

[Covino]

So you don't play for the enemy. And that's how it was forever up until, I don't know, 15 years ago, maybe 10 years ago. And all of a sudden it's, hey, you know what I realized? If you can't beat them, join them. It's not so bad. But you realize that it's a winning formula and it kind of works and we've accepted it. So I don't hate on Jazz Chisholm for what he's saying. It's just an old school way of thinking. In today's game, he's saying he'd rather play for the Angels than the Dodgers. And what I'm getting is the Dodgers are really becoming a hated organization, even though they have very likable players.

[Rich]

Of course, Evil empire. But I think like you said, the sentiment of can't beat them, join them used to be considered like, you're weak now, dude. Enjoy yourself.

[Covino]

You're going to leave our gang. You're going to leave the Vatos Locos and join the Tres Puntos. That's not what you do. You try to be better than the other gangs, the other teams, the other companies. I give you in today's world, no, no, no.

[Rich]

It's all good.

[Covino]

I'm not loyal. I just leave. And it's a bad sort of character trait. It really is if you want to be real about it. Because that's why relationships are failing. Why do I want to be in this and struggle? It's harder to win here. I'm gonna go there and win. It's really not that great. But we've accepted it.

[Rich]

Yep. Can I give you not analogies, great examples. Can I give you four examples of where in our lifetime this sentiment has rung true? Where it's, it's no longer I want to beat you. The sentiment is, hey, I'm gonna join you. Late night TV which is a dying thing anyway. Letterman, Leno, hated each other. Johnny Carson, when we were little kiddos, was territorial. Now it's like Fallon and Kimmel and Colbert and all. They all pal around. They're on each other's shows, they don't care. They're. They're like buddies. Another example. All Star games. Pete Rose would like slide cleats up to like take someone out. Now people are laughing and bro hugging and having a good time.

[Covino]

Because that might be your teammate in the next year.

[Rich]

Yeah, music collaborations. It used to be like, yo, I want to beat you on the charts. Now. Not only hip hop artists, country artists, pop artists, collaborations at an all time high. Hey, let's share each other's audiences, right? And one final one in the world of broadcasting. Danny G. You grew up in radio just like Covino and I did. Dan Byer, Sam, we're all radio at heart, right? When I was younger, I hated every other radio station that I was not on when I was sure.

[Covino]

It's very competitive.

[Rich]

When I was in New York, I was on Z100, which is like the Kiss FM of New York. I hated the idea of anyone being like, yeah, Kroc or KTU or Light FM or Hot 97, WPLJ, WPLJ f them. And then all of a sudden, iHeart, which is a great company we work for, they treat us well. Now I remember at the time being like, wait, all the radio stations that are supposed to hate each other are in the same building and they're friends now?

[Covino]

Right. So what Our mindset really changed a lot. What even question what jazz is saying. And what he's saying is a little old school. I'd rather play for the Angels than play for the evil Empire. The join them sort of situation with the Dodgers.

[Danny G]

When I was a kid at one of my first radio stations, our general manager had a staff meeting with all of us and he wore a hard army helmet and he was ranting about how we were going to kill the competition. That's how competitive it used to be.

[Covino]

Yeah, it's a different mentality now.

[Rich]

I remember radio stations would pull stunts to F with other radio stations like Sabotage. I remember back in the day, I worked at a radio station in Syracuse. Hot 10 seven, nine.

[Covino]

It was just 1079 until Rich got there.

[Rich]

It's a good one.

[Covino]

Yeah. Hot 107. He was the nighttime hottie.

[Rich]

The other radio station in town, 93Q, was doing some corny local promotion like we're giving away 93 cent gas. They had a couple of the promo guys stall out their cars in front of the gas station and ruin their whole promotion.

[Covino]

Yeah. Now if you can't beat them, join back. Then you tried to beat them. You see what I'm saying?

[Rich]

You would take the bumper sticker.

[Covino]

But where was the shame then in trying to beat them?

[Rich]

You would take the bumper sticker.

[Covino]

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[Covino]

other side story, Rich is PCA is calling out Dodgers fans.

[Rich]

Well, I mean, he's saying they're not loyal. Saying they're not. Well, he's saying they're not invested. But listen.

[Danny G]

Yeah, and then Sophie Cunningham in the news saying that LA personalities are weak.

[Covino]

Oh, yeah, that was the other one. They don't dance. There's three.

[Danny G]

Yeah, three I hate LA stories.

[Covino]

There's three I hate LA stories.

[Rich]

I hate la.

[DB (Dan Byer)]

I will say though, that there is something about Los Angeles and you guys are New York guys. Sam and I are from the Midwest that is so different than anything else that if people aren't from here or come here and it's just not their vibe, they just can't stand it for whatever reason.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

I'll be honest, dude. My parents say that's why they haven't visited me in my 18 years of being. They came twice in 18 years.

[Rich]

I don't get it. My, my thought, Dan Beyer, is that I came here married and my wife and I started a family out here. I, maybe if I came out here single, I would have been like, oh, the women out here are terrible. I don't know. But I mean, like, I've met all you guys. You guys are pretty cool. Like, I, I don't know. Like, I don't, I don't get that.

[Dan Byer]

Got a reputation.

[Rich]

I feel like anywhere I go, you know, if you're a nice enough guy, you can make friends. I, I think it's great out here. I love Los Angeles. Now, I saw a funny analogy where it was the difference between an east coaster, like a guy from Philly or Boston or New York versus someone in la. Someone in la, if your car breaks down, someone in LA would be like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry that happened to you. All right, bye.

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[Rich]

Meet someone in New York or Philly or Boston would be like, what are you, an effing moron? What are you doing? Let me help you. That's. That's the difference. There's like a fake sincerity that's not real. In Los Angeles. Where New York, they'll bust your huevos and, and hate on you, but then be like, yeah, I'll give you a hand.

[Covino]

That's the feeling.

[Rich]

That's the feel, right?

[Covino]

That's the vibe. Not saying that's accurate, but it feels accurate. So anyway, Covino and Rich. Oh, the last Dodgers in LA are enemy number one. We're out here in la, but I'm a. I'm a Yankees fan, as you know. Rich is a Mets fan. Danny G. Is. Is a Dodgers guy. Dan Byer likes his Brewers.

[Rich]

He has a Bernie the Brewer cardboard cutout.

[Covino]

I was Dodgers guy. But you like flip flop around, right?

[Rich]

I grew up rooting for the Phillies.

[Covino]

Yeah, I'm definitely a Dodgers fan.

[Rich]

Yeah. And then he was Big Apple Sam for a minute. That's right.

[Covino]

All those phases of my life.

[Rich]

I get it.

[Covino]

Let's go to the phones. Rich. 87799 on Fox.

[Rich]

What I was trying to spit out before was you worked in radio and promotions. How many times did you slap an old school like KROC bumper sticker over some other radio stations? Bumper sticker.

[Covino]

Because we were trying to beat them, not join them. Nowadays we're joining them.

[Rich]

I remember.

[Covino]

We're okay with that.

[Rich]

Early on, when you and I first worked at Sirius xm, it was just Sirius Satellite Radio. XM was the enemy. The enemy. I would go to Best Buy, Radio Shack. I would take all the serious satellite radio pamphlets and put them in front of the XM ones.

[Dan Byer]

Same like did.

[Covino]

That mentality's gone.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

I feel like I can't point my finger on who exactly ruined that.

[Danny G]

Rich. 1:1 Best Buy at a time.

[Rich]

But I'm saying, like, I get that

[Danny G]

guy with the mustache doing over there.

[Rich]

You guys get it. Because what we do is there's a level of competition, right? Like 25, 20 years ago, I would not have been like, I would not have publicly been like, you know, I really liked. I really like George Sedano on ESPN Radio, who I think might even be on at this time. He's a good guy. 20 years ago. F. That guy. Even if I liked him, we are okay with being chummy and buddy chummy with the competition.

[Covino]

So we could Say that what Jazz Chisholm saying makes sense. It's just a dated mentality.

[DB (Dan Byer)]

There's a point as well as you're going to hear me in a minute or so, give an update. And ESPN had been the ones who really were so against giving credit to other sources when it came to breaking news. They wouldn't report it or they would just reports. They wouldn't say who it was. Our thinking of that changed where if you're listening to Fox Sports Radio, you don't have to listen to the competitor because we're going to tell you everything that you need to know, whether it comes from ESPN or CBS Sports. We've got all the news, we've got all the topics. Just come here and you're going to be covered. But there was a point where ESPN was the four letter network. You didn't want to say those four letters. You were really keeping people from consuming their product by doing that.

[Rich]

It's such a weird mentality. I have another example. I'm sorry, D.B. that's all right. When we were kids, do you remember watching wrestling and they wouldn't acknowledge the other federation?

[DB (Dan Byer)]

Yes.

[Covino]

Like, if you watch more weird, though, I like that.

[Rich]

I know, but when you watch the WWF as a kid and you were like Macho man and Hulk Hogan and Andre the Giant, they pretended like Ric Flair and. And the, you know, all the WCW or nwa, it didn't exist. It was such a.

[Covino]

Like, I feel like the lines are way more blurred now.

[Rich]

The empire is right. I like, he's so right. Like espn.

[Covino]

Like, yeah, it sounds silly, but I like that mentality better. Like, yeah, this is our team and we're trying to beat the other team.

[Rich]

I had a boss at Sirius XM who was still old school that he couldn't snap out of it. My pal Kid Kelly, one of my mentors, he was so old school that they'd be like, yeah, on the pop channels. Yeah, Read this. Cross promotion for the country channels. And he's like, I won't. Yeah, but it's the same. It's the same company.

[Covino]

We're all the same company.

[Rich]

Nope. We'll do it.

[Covino]

No.

[Rich]

Why not?

[Covino]

Because we're still trying to be the best channel.

[Rich]

But we want to be the best channel. It doesn't matter who the best channel channel is. People are paying for satellites.

[Covino]

Yeah, yeah, but.

[Rich]

But no, it's.

[Covino]

And you know what that proves that if you don't adjust your mindset, you become a dinosaur. You become obsolete. You got to be will. You got to be willing to play the game the way it's played today. So therefore Jazz Chisholm is in the wrong even though I respect where it's coming from. If you want to compete and win today, you have to be willing to play pal around with the Dodgers if you get that opportunity. Well, not the, not the Angels.

[Rich]

With that said, let's go to our buddy Dan by for an update. DB what's going on today man?

[DB (Dan Byer)]

I too am a fan of former Fox Sports RAD Weeknight overnight host George Sedano as well.

[Rich]

He's a great guy, man.

[DB (Dan Byer)]

Yes he is.

[Covino]

He's a good dude.

[Rich]

Yes, he works for that four letter network. Yes he does.

[DB (Dan Byer)]

Cavaliers guard James Harden suffered a non displaced fracture in his non shooting hand in last night's win over the Knicks. That came from NBA insider Chris Haynes. Harden is questionable to play tonight against Milwaukee. Cavs will be without Donovan Mitchell and Evan Mobley. Lakers have hired former Virginia men's basketball coach Tony Bennett to be an NBA draft advisor to team president Rob Pelinka in the nf. The Jaguars will play two games in London next season back to back weeks and they'll be the home team for both games. Now the Jaguars are having work done on their current stadium. It's a two year process. They'll have a. It's basically going to be a brand new stadium in 2028. They're going to have to be relocated in 2027. Next year they're only going to play six games in Jacksonville.

[Rich]

So that's, you know, it sort of makes sense because you're right there because there's always the lopsided nine and eight. Yeah, they're getting the eight home games, two of them away. So you only have to figure out six.

[DB (Dan Byer)]

Correct.

[Rich]

That actually makes sense at first I'm like, ooh, two home games on the road.

[DB (Dan Byer)]

But yes, it works out for them. And the stadium is supposed to be amazing when it opens in a couple of years, but they're going to play back to back weeks in London as the home team in those situation Commander is also going to be playing a game in London. Chicago Tribune says the Bears are allowing linebacker Tremaine Edmonds to seek a trade. Panthers have received calls for backup quarterback Andy Dalton. That's according to espn. Cowboys kicker Brandon Aubrey reportedly wants a deal that will make him the highest paid kicker in the NFL at $10 million per season. Pittsburgh Penguins will be without Sidney Crosby for at least four weeks. He was placed in IR with a lower body injury suffered in the Winter Olympics.

[Rich]

Guys, back to you DB you hear in the NFL, it's funny, I don't, I don't expect you to know now, but you hear all these guys like, ooh, where are they going to end up? You know, possible guys on the move as anyone. I know he's not going to be on my team anymore, but is that what, where's the interest in Brian Brandon Iuk is. Does someone want him? Have you heard any rumbling about that guy? He just decides to skip the season, but yet there's no, I don't know any team that's inquired or I haven't even seen a rumor on like fan sites or anything.

[DB (Dan Byer)]

Yeah, I haven't heard anything either. And it probably has to do with his health because even the 49ers don't necessarily know what's up with him because it's kind of been mia. But I haven't heard anything yet.

[Rich]

All right, cool. DB thank you. Now, coming up, we have Mike's words of wisdom. Covino midweek Major Iowa Sam going to be taking over this week with all the hot stories and Big Apple Sam. Big Apple Sam and also two other things we're going to get to interrupting NBA farts and top NFL nicknames are going to play another little game with you guys all coming up right here, Kavino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio

[Covino]

ready to tackle your financial goals, Rich, we bowl.

[Rich]

Look at the market today. I feel good.

[Covino]

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[Rich]

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[Covino]

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[Rich]

It is.

[Covino]

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[Rich]

If you're tired of outrage, if your thumbs are sore from doom scrolling, or you just need a reason to smile again, this podcast is your new favorite scroll break. It's heartfelt, hopeful and a gentle reminder that goodness is still out there. And it's surprisingly contagious. So put down your phone, pick up your faith in humanity and join Jenna for the Ripple Effect. It's a reminder that you could start a ripple that changes everything. Listen to the ripple Effect on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Covino]

CNR on FSR the world famous Covino and Rich.

[Rich]

Oh man.

[Covino]

Hell yeah. Rocking out with Sam on the ones and twos. Danny G Super producing the best in the game with the smoothest, most buttery voice in all the land. 87799 on Fox we're live from the Fox Sports Radio studio. Live from the barrio. It is time for our tire rack play of the day.

[Rich]

Oh we're live from LA in other place that people love or hate.

[Covino]

Yeah for real A Lot of hate.

[Rich]

You want to do our tyrant play of the day or what?

[Covino]

I think we have to.

[Rich]

Ah, before the bad news of James Harden's broken thumb, the Cavs want another one. This time beating the New York Knicks. Mitchell, 12 on the clock.

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[Covino]

Wade left side.

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[Covino]

And that's the price you pay when

[Rich]

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[Covino]

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[Rich]

Like our grandparents would say. Turlet.

[Covino]

Yeah, I was staring at the turlet, and I had an ep Funny. And it dawned on me, like, when it comes to if you can't beat them, join them mentalities, it's a younger guy's philosophy. Like, screw this. I'm jumping ship and joining the winning team. That's just how it is, and we've accepted it. Younger people play by different rules. Everybody's friends now. And you know what? That's how you have to play the game. Hey, St. Gotts is the new show here, right? So what do we do?

[Rich]

Hey, man, what's up, stuff? Let's do something together.

[Covino]

We're all friends. And we're all friends because that's how you play the game now. So you have to either pivot and adjust or you're the dinosaur that everybody hates. The older cats in the game don't acknowledge the newer shows because that's the mentality they're stuck with. You think Howard Stern. And I say this respect respectfully. I'm a big fan. I came up in that world. You think he's out there giving props to younger shows?

[Rich]

He doesn't even mention them. He doesn't even mention them.

[Covino]

He'll pretend to not know him. Because that's competition.

[Rich]

The different mindset.

[Covino]

You want to beat the competition. That's the old mindset. You don't try to befriend, let alone join the competition.

[Danny G]

Oh, Stu and Colin used to get into it back in the day when they both worked for espn.

[Covino]

Now I Don't know this for fact, but if knowing Colin's been in the game a long time, he's probably reluctant to even acknowledge it. Yeah, it's the oldest played. That's how it was played.

[Rich]

Now you got to realize the mindset of yo. How do you build your audience? Let's go on each other's podcast. And that to an old school guy, that's like, what?

[Covino]

Right? Yeah.

[Rich]

What do you mean?

[Covino]

I'm going on your podcast. I'm trying to beat you. And the reason we bring this up

[Danny G]

again, we don't like when boxers do this either. Covina.

[Rich]

I don't like it. No.

[Covino]

Because we want to see the competition. Right. We don't want to see them playing slap ass. Fans seem like they're more invested sometimes. The reason we bring this up just to wrap it up again is LA is enemy number one, it seems like. And Jazz Chisholm sort of took a stand. He said he'd rather play for the Angels than play for the Dodgers. Even after the owner, which is an old school mentality.

[Rich]

Even after the owner said winning isn't in the top five priorities.

[Covino]

I know, I know, I know. And a lot of people calling out LA today.

[Rich]

I do want to point out if you are watching on the stream, shout out to Tripp and everyone watching.

[Covino]

What up, Trip?

[Rich]

I'm not wearing capri pants. I just rolled up my sweatpants. For some reason someone questioned is rich wearing capris? And I want to let it be known.

[Dan Byer]

No way.

[Covino]

Back on a Wednesday, did everybody rock them pilgrim style? And when I say pilgrim style, I mean you would pull your tube socks all the way up. Did everybody do that?

[Danny G]

I think so for a minute maybe.

[Rich]

I remember, I remember you didn't do that in like grade school on a way back Wednesday. I remember cuffing my jeans where you would roll the bottom sort of like. And then in the.

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[Danny G]

My brother even used a pin.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

To like keep them like that.

[DraftKings Announcer]

Yeah.

[Rich]

Then you went through the stage where your boot cut jeans would drag and they'd be filthy and like raggedy.

[Covino]

Was my town of Union, New Jersey, the only town that rocked sweatpants pilgrim style with the socks pulled up. That's so weird.

[Rich]

You look like old baseball players.

[Covino]

Yeah, that's exactly how we rocked them for years.

[Rich]

Didn't the Pilgrims crash one of their

[Covino]

boats into your hometown? I mean, it's not a way back called pilgrim style. I just sort of made that up. Yeah.

[Rich]

Cavino, Mayflower, over here.

[Covino]

Yeah. So anyway, thank you guys for hanging out with us. It's a new mentality. Either adjust or you get left behind.

[Rich]

No doubt. Now, tonight, new Love is Blind. I know there's not a lot of, you know, we're waiting for baseball. You know, there's basketball. But Kavino and I, off the air, were saying every time we watch these shows. And you can make fun of us for watching these shows, but, Danny, I think you could agree, well, it's better

[Covino]

than watching that long State of the Union last night. And no offense again, I'm just saying. Is it still going? I'd rather watch Love is Blind.

[Danny G]

Yeah, we all made fun of these shows until our women pulled us into the show.

[Rich]

By the way, know what I hate about any State of the Union? Whether it's Trump, Obama, Clinton, Bush. I hate the fact that, like, it's a divided stand and applause. Like, you're not allowed. You're not allowed to applaud if you're on one side.

[Covino]

Like, it's the U.S. olympic team. Stand up, you idiots. Yeah, to me, it's like, you're against hockey now.

[Rich]

Like, no matter who the president is.

[Covino]

Where's the politics in that?

[Rich]

If Democrats sit for Republicans and Republicans sit for Democrats, I think it's embarrassing.

[Covino]

Both lame.

[Rich]

I almost feel like it's someone's wife being like, don't you stand. Don't you stand.

[Covino]

It's so funny. You know what? It's the opposite of what we're talking about with sports, man. They're so loyal to their party that they won't stand for a hockey team.

[Rich]

Ridiculous. Anyway, it's Bloods and Crips. I was telling they're committed to their gangs. I was telling Kavito that. I just think. I know it's for reality tv, but please don't. Please tell me we weren't that dumb in our 20s.

[Covino]

Oh, we were dumber.

[Rich]

I don't think so.

[Danny G]

I don't think so.

[Rich]

Some of these guys are just like,

[Covino]

I think we were dumber.

[Rich]

Top level dumb. And I. And I sound dumb saying, well, you're the dumb. But you watch some of these reality shows and you're like, I know the casting process does that on purpose, but my goodness, give me an example.

[Covino]

Like, what's grinding your goat?

[Rich]

Well, first of all, the one dude, Chris.

[Covino]

Oh, that guy. Hobbit boy.

[Rich]

And that one guy, the former soccer player was like, super handsome Alex or

[Covino]

Eric, whatever his name is, he doesn't

[Rich]

understand the woman's menstrual cycle. And he gets mad about stacking water in a refrigerator. Like, I'm like, Who? What are we doing here?

[Danny G]

I should have been drafted.

[Covino]

Top 10 new episodes tonight.

[Rich]

So I'll be watching that and maybe some NBA. We got more C and R next.

[Covino]

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[Covino]

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