C&R - Having Each Other's Backs!

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show (Hosted by Covino & Rich)

Episode: C&R - Having Each Other's Backs! Date: November 27, 2025

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Main Theme & Purpose

This episode, guest-hosted by Covino and Rich, centers around the power and value of loyalty—both in sports teams and in everyday relationships. The hosts dive into the Lakers’ on-court chemistry, the NBA’s in-season tournament, and use recent basketball events as a springboard to a broader discussion about having each other’s backs, when to support your people, and even who should pick up the tab when friends and family get together.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NBA In-Season Drama: Lakers, Luka, and Team Loyalty

• Lakers vs. Clippers Recap: A heated moment unfolded in a recent Lakers game with a confrontation involving Luka, Chris Dunn, and Jackson Hayes. Luka was fouled hard, Hayes defended him, and a scuffle broke out, leading Luka to promise to cover any fines Hayes incurred for having his back.
  • “Luca then says, hey, put Jackson Hayes’s fine on my tab because he had my back.” (07:46, Covino)
• Chemistry on Display: The hosts emphasize how visible team loyalty and camaraderie are signs of a strong, healthy franchise.
  • “When guys start getting each other's back, you realize that there's a true camaraderie being built there in the Lakers this season.” (08:00, Rich)

2. NBA In-Season Tournament: Innovation or Flop?

• Debate Over Tournament’s Impact: The crew is split about the NBA’s new cup tournament, likening it to other sports innovations and discussing whether its current format is lacking impact or tradition.
  • “Every time we look at a player’s profile and see ‘NBA Cup Champion,’ it’s almost a laugher.” (06:44, Rich)
• Suggestions for Raising Stakes: Rich and Covino suggest unconventional incentives (like playoff advantages) to make the tournament matter.
  • “If I told you the team that won the cup got some type of advantage going into round ones of the NBA playoffs—now you're playing for something.” (12:28, Rich)

3. The Big Question: When Do You HAVE To Have Someone’s Back?

• Personal & Professional Loyalty: Using the Lakers incident as a launchpad, the hosts discuss real-life parallels: Should you always side with your spouse, friends, or teammates—even if they’re in the wrong?
  • “Do you always have to have your wife's back, even though I know she's wrong? …Those are the rules that I live by… That’s loyalty. That’s the team.” (17:00, Covino)
  • “Honestly… there have been times where my—I've had exes fly off the handle and I’ve gone up to people like, listen, I have to defend her, it's my girlfriend. But I understand.” (15:55, Rich)
• Being a Peacemaker: Is it betraying your friend to privately apologize to others after backing them up in public during a conflict?
  • “Being peacemaker, like, hey, man, I’m sorry about what happened there… But you don’t want to overemphasize the fact that he was wrong.” (19:39, Covino)

4. Who Picks Up the Tab? Social Expectations When The 'Star' is Present

• The Luka Principle: Linking back to Luka offering to pay Hayes’s fine, the hosts debate when it’s expected to pick up the bill—does the wealthiest or most successful person in the group have an obligation?
  • “If it’s known that you’re the most successful… you pick up the tab. It’s plain and simple. And you insist.” (22:17, Covino)
  • “If you’re going to be all braggadocious, then you gotta be the guy being generous.” (21:18, Rich)
• Generosity in Friends, Family, and Dating: Listeners call in and echo the sentiment, applying it to gatherings with friends, relatives, and even on dates.
  • “If I invite you out, I should pay–regardless of my financial situation. That's just my opinion.” (35:39, Trip - caller)
  • “You ask a girl out on a date, you better be paying… what kind of wimp ass dude is like, 'let’s go 50/50?' To me, that’s a guarantee of no ass ever.” (36:21, Rich)

5. Sports Chemistry: The Underestimated X-Factor

• Importance of Camaraderie: Both hosts underscore that team chemistry is a key, often-overlooked element of successful sports franchises—just as vital in offices and friend groups.
  • “I am a firm believer… there's such a low emphasis where I think that should be a predominant emphasis on chemistry, vibe, camaraderie.” (31:31, Rich)
  • “OKC has that chemistry. Defending champions, obviously, but they got the youth… if (the Lakers) could stay fresh and stay healthy… they have a shot.” (34:30, Covino)

6. NFL and Thanksgiving/Friendsgiving Vibes

• Upcoming NFL Games: Rich hypes the Thanksgiving slate as the best in years with major playoff implications, specifically in the NFC North.
  • “These are the best Thanksgiving Day football games ever… there’s a lot on the line—turkey ass and playoff hopes.” (03:51, Rich)
• Holiday Relaxation & Traditions: The hosts also joke about the joy of doing nothing but eating and watching football for the holiday stretch.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “You realize that there's a true camaraderie being built there in the Lakers this season.” (08:00, Rich)
• “If you ask a girl out on a date, you better be paying for her drinks… What kind of wimp ass dude is like, we're gonna go 50/50?” (36:21, Rich)
• “The grass isn’t always greener. Sometimes you just need to water the grass.” (10:31, Covino)
• “Just being a peacemaker… is just part of the deal.” (19:39, Covino)
• “If you’re going to be all braggadocious, then you gotta be the guy being generous.” (21:18, Rich)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Lakers/Luka Incident Recap: 05:11–08:00
• NBA Cup Tournament Debate: 06:01–14:10
• Loyalty in Conflict Discussion: 15:46–20:27
• Who Picks Up the Tab—Luka Analogy: 20:27–23:14
• Importance of Chemistry: 31:31–34:00
• NFL Thanksgiving Games/Party Prep: 03:51, 47:16

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Tone & Language

The show is conversational, irreverent, playful, and occasionally self-deprecating. Both hosts use relatable humor, sports analogies, and real-life scenarios throughout, constantly engaging the audience and inviting feedback and calls. There’s a clear through line of sports culture meeting everyday life, with a recurring emphasis on loyalty, fun, and the value of camaraderie.

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Summary

This episode is a blend of NBA talk, life lessons, and holiday musings. The central stories from the Lakers game lead to passionate and funny discussions about what it means to really support your people—be it teammates, partners, or friends—and when, if ever, you can break that code. The hosts relate sports lessons to life, question traditions, theorize fun fixes for sports events, and invite their audience to weigh in on everything from splitting checks to team chemistry, all while adding their trademark energy and humor.

Transcript

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[Rich]

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[Covino]

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[Rich]

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[Covino]

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[Covino]

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[Rich]

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[Covino]

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[Rich]

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[Covino]

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[Rich]

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[Covino]

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[Rich]

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[Covino]

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[Rich]

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[Covino]

Yo, what's up?

[Rich]

Happy Wednesday. Danny G's happy because we're going to talk some Lakers just in a second, Luca. And some fights and some fun. We're going to talk a lot of NFL. There are. I'm going to go out on a limb and I'm going to sound like Chris Harrison or Jesse Palmer on the Bachelor. These are the best Thanksgiving Day football games ever. I don't ever remember a game mattering on Thanksgiving because it's always like a divisional Cowboys or Lions game that doesn't have like, you know, big stakes. I said it yesterday, I'll say it again. I think whoever loses the Lions packers game tomorrow might be out. I know this.

[Covino]

I know they're still turkey ass.

[Rich]

Oh, dude, it's. There's a lot on the line. Turkey ass and playoff. Hope so.

[Covino]

Packers, Lions, Chiefs, Cowboys, Bengals, Ravens will be breaking it down. In fact, let me remind you right away that you could wake up with us early tomorrow morning, get all hyped for it because we're filling in for Dan Patrick tomorrow right before the parade, before all the fixings. You got Kavino and Rich right here on Fox Sports radio early like Mr. Furley in the morning. But yeah, it's Wednesday. Turning your hump day into a hump night, party night. And just like every Wednesday, Rich, even though it's a holiday week, we got midweek major. We got prizes to give away. We have lots of fun to get to. So I say we dive right into.

[Rich]

I mean, why wait? Let's talk Lakers and Luka and what a guy. He said, yo, Jackson Hayes, if you get fined, I got your back. You're my guy. But Danny G, you want to set the stage of what happened last night. You're watching the Lakers like you do all the time. I'm catching more highlights than you than, than most. But you're, you're watching the whole game. You're locked.

[Covino]

Yeah, you don't watch NBA until the.

[Rich]

The in season tournament. I mean, can I tell you something? I feel like, I almost feel like it's a slightly embarrassing thing that they're still sticking with it.

[Covino]

I mean, hey, dude, look at the World Baseball Classic. The first few years it was kind of ass. And now you got Shohei Invol. Well, Shohei was involved, but he was recently announced again. It's gotten better and better every year. So innovate or die. You got. You can't give up that quick, dude.

[Rich]

I agree that I'm a firm believer in your pal Gary Vaynerchuk. Gary Vee, who says innovator die. I love how they tried different things at the All Star break in hockey. They tried to do the international thing. They're doing that with the All Star game for the NBA now. I like the mindset of innovate or die. Come up with some fresh new ideas. None of the, none of the old lame stuff that's not working. But sometimes when something doesn't work, a few times you pivot and I don't know. I know it's like very Euro and very soccer like group. This group. In this group, we laughed the other day, Danny G. We looked at some player's profile and it's like and NBA cup champion. And it was almost a laugher, right? It was like it was Austin Reeves. He's an NBA cup winner.

[Covino]

They're going to keep like tweaking that.

[Rich]

Until they get it right. Hopefully. Hopefully it doesn't turn out like the NFL Pro bowl, but.

[Covino]

So Luca has history with Chris Dunn of the Clippers from when he played with the map.

[Rich]

So these two have no love loss already. They were chirping at each other during the game.

[Covino]

There's a play right out of bounds near the Basket. And so the ball, the basketball gets pushed right into Lucas chest by Chris Dunn.

[Rich]

Knocks Luca back.

[Covino]

Luca makes the face he always makes.

[Rich]

Like, did you see reps? Did you see that?

[Covino]

And Jackson Hayes comes to be the.

[Rich]

You know, the enforcer, the goo, the quarterback. Exactly.

[Covino]

And he shoves Chris Dunn. And Chris Dunn went about four steps sideways and he retaliated by throwing an open hand. I guess you could call it a wannabe slap punch. And he connected slightly to Jackson Hayes's face.

[Rich]

So double T on done.

[Covino]

He's out of the game.

[Rich]

And one technical on Jackson Hayes, the enforcer.

[Covino]

Yeah. So Luca then says, hey, put Jackson Hayes is fine on my tab because he had my back. Yeah.

[Rich]

And then a few plays later, Lucas sets Jackson Hayes up with a beautiful alley oop.

[Covino]

And the announcers were like, ah, it's paying off.

[Rich]

Already having his back. You gotta, you gotta love that as a Lakers fan, just seeing not only the chemistry you were hoping for, but when sty guys start getting each other's back, you realize that there's a true camaraderie being built there in the Lakers this season. Yeah. And we talked about Deandre Ayton.

[Covino]

We've talked about him a few times.

[Rich]

So far this season.

[Covino]

A nice surprise so far for the.

[Rich]

Lake show, but he's out injured right now. And Jackson Hayes has stepped up. Cleaver has gotten some playing time.

[Covino]

So something that was a major weakness.

[Rich]

For the Lakers not having size.

[Covino]

Suddenly they have a little depth in that department. And you're hearing all sorts of buzz about the greatest trio in sports history, in NBA history. Luka Reeves, LeBron scoring 99 points, something ridiculous like that. You know, fake Lakers fans are like, wow, this is all coming together like we dreamed about. So it's kind of cool to see how they're gelling like Magellan. And it's kind of cool to see how things like that can bring a team closer together.

[Rich]

Rich. No diggity. No doubt. In fact, I'm. I'm reading our feedback on the YouTube in show. You could go follow, watch everything at YouTube.com/at Covey on Rich FSR, Wes and Tommy Ashley, Andrew Rivera, a bunch of people hitting us up already saying the NBA trying desperately to make this cup happen. And it just doesn't. Doesn't seem like it's clicking, but make dude tweaks.

[Covino]

All right, let me give you an inside example. One of the games that's sweeping the nation is our Friday game. It's a new game called Brain Wave that we play, Right?

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

Danny G came up with a great idea. The first few weeks it kind of fell flat because it needed a few tweaks. Instead of giving up on it, we made the adjustments and now it's our favorite game. You know, I mean, if the idea is there and it's not clicking, you still got to write it out and maybe try to tweak it a little bit. I think that's what the NBA is trying to do.

[Rich]

There's got to be some. Well, you know what I'm thinking there's got to be some type of unconventional prize where what happens at the mid season or the early season cup has some type of bearing on the NBA playoffs come, you know, spring, like, hey, you get to pick your first round opponent. Something so unconventional or weird like, oh, you're the, you know, you could flip seeds with someone else in your, in your conference. Like, there's gotta be, you gotta know.

[Covino]

When to say when and no one to switch it up. But you also have to be able to make those adjustments. And I think that's a societal problem in relationships and in life today. If things don't work in relationships, if things don't work at the job, if things just aren't working, we're so quick to jump and try to figure out something else instead of trying to fix what's there. Like, the grass isn't always greener. Sometimes you just need to water the grass. I'm just saying, like, that's why relationships don't last. Kids jump ship, let it ride out, make some adjustments. It'll be fine.

[Rich]

Take a page out of Squid game, the challenge. I know, Danny G. You're watching. Kavino, you watch, right?

[Covino]

I'm watching, yeah.

[Rich]

Take a page out of Squid game, the challenge where, you know, you win a, you, you win a game or a prize and there's like some cool twist. Like, I feel like there's no twist. It's like, are you in the NBA Cup? And no one's being like, oh, wow, congratulations Pacers or whoever won last year. No one gives a shit. No one cares. But, but if you told me, all right, let's say, let's say the team that wins and this won't happen, but I'm saying how cool would it be if it did? Whoever wins the NBA cup early in.

[Covino]

The season with paint guns.

[Rich]

No, but you, you, the winning team gets like some type of advantage in the playoffs. Like you start a Series 10 or you get to, or pick your opponent for round one of the playoffs or switch seeds or switch to other Team seeds like you get some type of golden ticket. I know it sounds ridiculous, but why else would anyone care about who wins the cup if there's no. If there's no, like, payoff? What's a payoff? You get. Oh, you get a cup that no one gives a crap about. If it's hung in the banner. Hung in the rafters became a joke.

[Covino]

I actually do agree with you, but I'm sure there are people that care. And do the players care? That's another question that you would need to ask Austin Reeves. Ask the Lakers. Ask them how they feel about.

[Rich]

You could say what I'm. You could say what I'm saying sounds dopey, but I do think that gimmicky stuff could work once in a while. And if there was some type of. Again, like an advantage card later, when it mattered, who would be. Would you be opposed to that if I told you the team that won the cup got some type of advantage going into round ones of the NBA playoffs? Now you're playing for something. It's like when the all star game in baseball used to mean that's the AL or NL got home field advantage in the World Series. It meant something. When it doesn't. When it doesn't mean anything, then the stakes are nonsense, you know?

[Covino]

Well, I'll tell you what. The NBA still is heating up and we're seeing this all pan out with the Lakers at the moment, at least. LeBron, Luca, Reeves and.

[Rich]

And they secured a spot in the knockout round after their victory last night.

[Covino]

I know Rich is really excited about it.

[Rich]

I've. I've wrote it down on my schedule watching.

[Covino]

And Luca moved to 10th all time in most 40 point games, which is insane. How old is Luca? He's already 10th all time in 40 point games. That's pretty impressive, man. So he's putting up some good numbers. They're playing big. And that's why you have to have a guy like his back. That's why Jackson Hayes says, you know what? I got you, bro. You know, that's my teammate.

[Rich]

I got your back, dude. Esteban on our intro said, NBA stinks until the playoffs. Guys, Rich isn't wrong. Maybe do something crazy to spice it up.

[Covino]

Jamie, I'm not saying you're wrong, but you've never really been the biggest NBA fan. So I'm saying there's got to be people that do care or feel a little different. I think a little tweak here and there could totally fix it until I.

[Rich]

See someone wearing a NBA cup T shirt. Like my team won the NBA Cup.

[Covino]

Danny, you got one or no?

[Rich]

No, he does not. And Danny probably has 25 Laker shirts and he does not have the one when they won the cup. I would never get an in season cup championship shirt. Now Jamie and Boston said Rich is onto something. What if there was like a wild card where in the first round of the playoffs that team got like a. You, you get to pick what player on the other team has to sit on the bench for five minutes in the fourth quarter. Like something absurd, like, that's gimmicky, that's real.

[Covino]

But you're right, that's like having a field goal kickoff in overtime with fat.

[Rich]

Linemen in the NFL. Oh, that sounds fun.

[Covino]

So there's so many different things that, that make me say when it comes to what happened last night, though. I love watching the clips, I love watching the highlights. I love watching seeing the teammates have each other's back. And it makes me think of, you know, having your buddies back, having your families back. Like so many situations. Like, Rich, if you're, let's say, at mixed company, I've been here before, I've been at mixed company and I've seen my ex wife fight and get into arguments with my friends. And not to get too personal, but I knew in these particular situations, my wife was wrong, my friends were right. Do I always have to have my wife's back even though I know she's wrong? So this poses so many questions to me when I think of, when I think of Jackson Hayes having Lucas back. I'm not saying anyone was wrong or right, but it makes me think of, do you always have to have your wife's back? Do you always have to have your.

[Rich]

Friends back in the worst, if you.

[Covino]

Know he's wrong, if he's drunk, if he's stupid, like, when to have people's back is the first thing you want to sleep on the couch or. I mean, exactly.

[Rich]

Honestly, Ryan's right.

[Announcer]

You.

[Rich]

You have to like, unapologetically and stupidly at times defend the person you love. Right? Like there have been times where my. I've had exes fly off the handle and I've gone up to Pete, I've defended her and then gone up to people like, listen, I have to defend her. It's my girlfriend. But I understand. So like, I'm trying, like, de escalating a situation. Like, I get you, but I have to defend her. So let's.

[Covino]

Or how about, you know, it's a big party night, right? You're out with your pals. And your friend is belligerent, drunk, maybe hitting on a woman. That's taken. You know, that your friend's in the wrong. He starts a little bit of a tussle or he starts a problem at the bar. He's your friend. You know he's wrong. Do you always have to have his back even when you know he's wrong? You know, all these things come to mind when I see what happens.

[Rich]

I have a question.

[Covino]

Do you?

[Rich]

Look at it.

[Covino]

We're on the same team. I have your back no matter what. Is that the rules you live by? And I will tell you straight up, those are the rules that I live by. You know, I know my wife was in the wrong. Ex wife now, but I knew she was in the wrong. But I'm not sleeping on the couch. I got to go back with her. I gotta sleep with her. I'm gonna have her back no matter what. It's loyalty. It's the team. And you got to stand by those rules. If you' buddy's in the wrong, but someone's starting with him or he's getting his ass kicked or he's getting into an argument, but he's your buddy, that's the team you play for. You have his back. You know, I think those are the rules you play by. Those are the rules of life. Those are the rules of sports. That's the first thought. Then I have a second thought based.

[Rich]

On a couple things. I think this is a great sign for Lakers fans like Danny G. Yeah.

[Covino]

Bill's chemistry.

[Rich]

Because what you're seeing is you're seeing the trust and camaraderie that Luca has already developed with this team where.

[Covino]

You know why Luca is able to score 40 point games like this? Because he knows his team has his back.

[Rich]

But a great sign is when your people get your back. Because you're telling me you haven't seen athletes on a professional or collegiate level where there's a tussle and you're like, wow, their team did not really have their back. And you could tell that's because they don't command that camaraderie or they, they don't have that chemistry or something's missing. So that was number one. Lakers fans should be pleased that guys are quick to defend their star player.

[Covino]

Number two, you want to know my. My second.

[Rich]

Let me, let me thought my. Well, based on you're saying your ex wife. Yeah, I've seen Cavino in that scenario. And it sucks. We. I. I'll just say this. I've Been at dinners where I've seen Cavino's ex wife and our video guy, Spot, having, like, the bitchiest little fight. And I'm just there, like, I'm like, the meme of the guy eating popcorn, and I'm like, ooh. Covino knows his ex wife is wrong, but he has to get her back. Good times, right, Spot?

[Covino]

Oh, yeah.

[Announcer]

Great.

[Rich]

Yeah. Great times.

[Covino]

Oh, so great.

[Rich]

So great. And my. My third thought is, is it backstabbing in nature or wrong if you go up to the other party afterwards and say, hey, listen, man, I. I'll give you an example. On my softball team, I know this is small potatoes or just Sunday softball, there's a guy on our team that's a bit of a hothead, sort of a jerk at times, but he's my teammate. He collided with a guy, and it was not right. He was wrong. Both teams start mouthing off and tussling. I'm pulling my buddy back, like, yo, bro, come on. Come on. I go up to the guy in the other team, like, yeah, he gets a little heated. Yo, sorry, man. You keep your cool. Is it backstabby to go up to the other person?

[Covino]

It is. I'm not saying you could be peacemaker, but you don't have to make it seem like he's off the handle and he's just a blowhard or he's a jerk. Like, now you're making him look bad. You know, you're supposed to have his back, not. Not to make him worse.

[Rich]

I guess you're right.

[Covino]

So. But being peacemaker, like, hey, man, I'm sorry about what happened there. You know, that's fine. But you don't want to, like, overemphasize the fact that he was wrong. So it's a little backstabbey on how you handle it, but being peacemaker, I think, is just part of the deal. Now, again, Chris Dunn shoves the ball into Luca, into his chest, and Hayes pushes back, has Luka's back. Dunn throws the punch. Luca then says, yo, man, I'm pumped. He had my back. Jackson Hayes had my back. Put his fine on my tab. If you're going out tonight, here's the other part of the question that comes to mind.

[Rich]

Okay?

[Covino]

If you're going out tonight, and there's a lot of people going out tonight, party night, Wednesday night, and let's say you're doing better than your other pals, and let's say you're the type of guy that brags about it on social media. Ooh, you got A new Porsche. Why don't you brag about it? Right? Like, people know you're doing well. It's just the world we live in. Are you expected to pick up the tab? You know, why leak? You know why Luka has the tab? Well, a, because Jackson Hayes had his back, but also Luka makes five times more than him.

[Rich]

Yeah, I think, listen, I think part of the. Part of the deal is if you're that guy that lets the world know they're doing really well. Well, you also, then you.

[Covino]

Then you don't have to be braggy to know. In today's world, people just know, right?

[Rich]

Like, if you're posting pictures of you and your, you know, random girls you're hooking up with in Bora Bora, or you're like, on the, you know, the beaches of Aruba, I'm in, you know, I'm all in Europe again. And you're Instagram braggy guy. I think if you meet up with some old buddies, drinks are on you, because I don't think you could. Like, you gotta almost follow through with the brag. Then if you're gonna be all braggadocious, then you gotta be the guy being generous.

[Covino]

And it's not just buddies. Even though tonight's a big party night, it's family, right? A lot of people are hanging out with family, catching up with family for the holidays, Thanksgiving, maybe you go to the movies, maybe you're going to see Wicked with your family. Maybe you're doing something family oriented. If you're the breadwinner, if you're the Luca of the family, they've had your back. They support you. You're the star of the family. Do you have to flip the tab? You know, do you have to cover it the way Luke is doing it? So part A of this scenario last night, this whole Lakers debacle, this whole tussle. Part A is loyalty, right? Where does the loyalty stand?

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

Part two is when to pick up the tab. So your thoughts? And I'll say this, I agree with Rich. If it's known that you're the most successful, you don't have to act like you're Mr. Big Shot, but you pick up the tab. It's plain and simple. And you insist. Yeah, don't worry about it, man. Yo, bro, I got it. Trust me. Yo, if I didn't have it, I'd let you know next time you have it. But right now, while things are good.

[Rich]

I got it, bro.

[Covino]

Trust me. It's my pleasure.

[Rich]

Your. Your thoughts? Do you. Do you pull The Luca do you say, I got it.

[Covino]

You say, I got it. You say, I got it. So you know what I look at this as? And if I was Danny J. I'd be extra pumped because everybody loves a little fireworks when they're watching the game. But this is the ultimate. The ultimate chemistry builder because everything was done right. Jackson Hayes protected the quarterback, protected the star. He had Luka's back.

[Rich]

Boom.

[Covino]

A great chemistry builder.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

B, Luka shows appreciation. Dude, I'm only doing what I'm able to do. I'm scoring 40 points. Me, Reeves, and LeBron, we're scoring 99 points. We're the greatest trail in sports because dudes like you are protecting us, and I appreciate it. So, bam, I got you back, and I'll pay for the fine. And I'm letting the world know how much I appreciate you protecting us and having my back in that moment. You're pushing this guy because I couldn't, because I'm Luka. Dude, everything about this just says that the Lakers are doing all the right things. At least right now, in the moment, they're looking good. And that's just the chemistry builder. So, Bam, what are your thoughts?

[Rich]

87799 on Fox. We'll take all your feedback and we're gonna talk a bunch of NFL tomorrow. The stakes are high. I. I'm telling you, some of these games coming up are going to be playoff deciders. They're going to set the tone for the final stretch of the NFL season. And we'll go over a lot of NFL. We'll do midweek major. We got some games, we got some prizes. Just a lot of fun, casual Wednesday, biggest party day of the year as we all get ready for a little Thanksgiving fun. More Cavino and Rich.

[Covino]

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[Covino]

The biggest party night of the year. I don't even know what that means anymore. Honestly, I just want to relax.

[Rich]

Yeah, yeah, go.

[Covino]

I mean I don't want to go out and have a good time, but I kind of like being home. I'm in my hometown of Union, New Jersey and I don't mind lamp and watching a nice movie tonight.

[Rich]

Dude, Plane, trains and automobiles. Best Thanksgiving movie.

[Covino]

You know what, pause on that because maybe we'll talk about it tomorrow. All right, because we are live in for Dan Patrick manana. Right now we're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios and our show sponsored by DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NFL and NBA. Right now use promo code crshow to claim your special offer at DraftKings. Again, promo code crshow@draftkings. The Crown is yours and Rich. The show's popping tonight. Wednesday night but our live chat popping Covino and Rich FSR Steel rivers hanging out. Danny Riley after show but later, Weston, Idaho Jeremy, Lisa, a lot of people chiming in, a lot of people saying, we got it right when it comes to loyalty and trust. And that's what the Lakers are displaying. Protecting Luca last night, and then Luca returning the favor saying, yo, I got Jackson Hayes back. I got his fine. I got his tab. So, so many questions are posed based on the Lakers Dr. Last night, again, Chris Dunn shoved Luca and Jackson Hayes pushed Chris Dunn back. It's a question of loyalty. Do you always have your friends back? Do you always have your wife's back, even if they're wrong? And when it comes to flipping the tab this weekend, if you're the most successful or if you're doing well, do you always have to take the tab?

[Rich]

I mean, it's part of. It's part of business, right? It's like, you know, you got to dinner and people know, hey, you know, he's. He's doing well. And especially if you're having drinks or dinner with someone, you hear them talk about some type of struggle they're going through, then you gotta cover them.

[Covino]

And that's the way you gotta look at it, too, right? It's almost like an honor to. It's not a brag. It's an honor to get the tab, because you might not always be doing well, but it's an honor. You should be thankful this week that you are well. And because you are. I got it.

[Rich]

I have one more thought about Luca and the chemistry you see before your very eyes. I think that's the number one thing that's downplayed in sports. We talk about this all the time. I am a firm believer in a radio station, a company, in office, anywhere. There's such a low emphasis where I think that should be a predominant emphasis on chemistry, vibe, camaraderie, all these type of things. I'm a Mets fan, as you know, right? Two years ago, the Mets took the Dodgers to Game 6 in the NLCS. Grimace Hawk to a girl, all the gimmicks, all the fun. Oh, my God. With Jose Iglesias. Last year's Mets team was flat and boring. And if you ask some people inside that organization, you know what they said? J.D. martinez was a veteran presence in the clubhouse that made everyone feel loose. And Jose Iglesias with the oh, my God. And the singing was like the funny dude in the locker room in the clubhouse getting everyone loose. And you. You forget that when you play day in and day out, especially a long season like baseball or the NBA or the NHL with his 80 games or 160 something games seeing and hanging out with people every day is a big part of what makes the team successful. So when you're seeing the Lakers click and personalities enjoying each other's company and you see it sometimes, like, I saw Christian McCaffrey the other day say that this may not necessarily be the most, you know, like, healthy, best team he's been on, but he's like, the Niners really like each other. Like, it's a team that really enjoys being with each other. And you can see that with us.

[Covino]

Check and kittle and best locker rooms he's been a part of.

[Rich]

Yeah. So, I mean, you can't down. You can't downplay those things.

[Covino]

Yeah. I was surprised he didn't say the best.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

I mean, honest about.

[Rich]

Yeah, but. But I think those things are understated. Right. And, you know, sometimes you see a player get traded and you don't get it as a fan, but maybe you're not in the. In the mix where you'd be like, yeah, no one really likes that guy. But you know who we're getting? We're getting a guy that's really likable. So you might think this guy's better than that guy.

[Covino]

But you're right. This guy's tangible. That shit that's never really accounted for when it comes to payday, bro. Right. It's so important as far as team and fun and chemistry, winning and in life and going out and everything.

[Rich]

Think of offices you've worked in. Some are boring as hell and some are fun. I really did. There's radio shows on this network, other networks where everyone that works for the show is in a good mood because they're happy to be part of it. Others are. They hate it. It's a reason. It's like a bad locker room, bad clubhouse. And I think the Lakers are onto something. So, Danny G, congratulations to your team. I think you're one of the only teams that ever shot to take that Oklahoma City. Who's now. What are they, 17 and 1 or 19 and 1? Well, I saw it before.

[Covino]

I lost track. They're 17 and 1 fresh. That's the key here. Right. Because the only thing that okc. Because OKC has that chemistry. Defending champions, obviously, but they got the youth. And I'm not saying that the Lakers are old, but they're older than the Thunder. So if they could stay fresh and stay healthy and they could be what people are saying is the greatest trio in NBA history, or they're playing like it anyway, to be fair, then they have a Shot they. As of now, in this moment, they're looking like they have a shot.

[Rich]

All right, let's. Let's add a trip in Vegas, and then we'll go to Ilo for an update. What's up, trip? Hey, good afternoon, guys. I look forward to waking up tomorrow and hearing you on the morning. Oh, thanks, man. Thanksgiving. By the way, speaking of Luca, I'm pretty sure Luca was traded to the Lakers, and you and I hung that day because we were in Vegas, and I'm pretty sure we bumped into at the bar that night. You waited for me that night, and we were. That's. We were both looking at our phones like, is this real? Yeah. It was a wild night. And then.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich]

And as Danny G. Says, sometimes as a Lakers fan, he's still, like, not convinced it's true. Like, is this real?

[Covino]

Like David at the dentist way back on a Wednesday.

[Rich]

Is this real?

[Covino]

Is this real life? So what's up?

[Rich]

Tripping. So I was going to say yes, obviously. Loyalty and trust, especially being in the navy when I was younger. And then if you are the most successful, I think you do take care of your friends. And I'll tell you one other thing. If I invite you out, I should pay regardless of my financial situation. That's just my opinion. You know what? That's. That's a very generous mindset. I think in the dating world, that's been lost because there's a lot of young weenie dudes that don't pay for women anymore. And call me old school, but you ask a girl out on a date, you better be paying for her drinks or dinner if you're. If you're a real man. What type of wimp ass dude is like, we're gonna go 5050 on dinner. To me, that's like a guarantee of no ass ever. Like, what girl. What girl wants to.

[Covino]

So with you on that, nothing. Puts you in the friend zone and says that you're the biggest wimp. If you asked her out and you're going halvesies. Sound like a man to us. Yeah, absolutely.

[Rich]

Dude. I. I would feel if I was on a date with a girl and I was a single young man and I said the phrase, like, we're splitting this in that same. While I'm saying that I feel like I should be tucking my junk between my legs.

[Covino]

Hey, do you mind going splitskis? Beat it. Especially as a girl, Dad, I would tell my daughter. Tell that dude to beat it.

[Rich]

Yeah. If my daughter, who's only 8, when she gets older, I have one rule some little boy asks you out to coffee or you know, to star starbies or a movie. Don't be with some chump ever.

[Covino]

And by the way, that doesn't mean we're being sexist or old school. And that doesn't mean we're not saying women can't pay women. Hey, throw some money in for dessert. Whatever. I don't know, whatever makes you happy. You pay for lunch next time. But if you're asking a woman out, you pay for her. Simple as that. I agree with Trip a thousand percent. Thank you guys for all your feedback. It's cool to see the Lakers jellin when the Lakers are good, the league is better and you know your thoughts on this and more. There's also a story about George Pickens and Midweek Major. We have so much to get to on this party night. Covino and Rich. But first, our guy. An update from Isaac Loewencron.

[Rich]

Loinchron. What's up ilo? Thank you fellas. Detroit Lions announced today that four time Pro bowl center Frank Ragnow is coming out of retirement. Ragnow had retired in June after seven seasons in the NFL. The Cincinnati Bengals officially activated Joe Burrow off injured reserve in advance of tomorrow night's game against the Ravens today. Raiders quarterback Geno Smith apologized for flipping off Raider fans after last Sunday's loss to Cleveland. You know, I made a poor judgment out of frustration and you know, that's not an excuse. I've got to be better than that and I've got to hold myself to a higher standard. And in that moment I didn't, you know, I'm sincerely apologetic and you know, very sorry for obviously for doing that. And you know, I just want to, you know, make it known that those things will never happen for me again. Every Olympic dream starts with with a first glide through. Learn to Skate USA Kids build confidence, strength and joy on the ice. Learn to Skate USA offers programs for skaters of all ages and abilities. Find a program near you@ learntoskateusa.com NBA Anthony Davis of the Mavericks returned to practice today. He could return Friday against the Lakers. He's missed 14 games with a strained left calf. ESPN reports New York Knicks guard Landry Schmette will be out at least four weeks with a sprained right shoulder. Guys, back to you.

[Covino]

Thank you Isaac Loincron thank you Isaac. So lots of great lessons from that situation last night between Chris Dunn and Luca and that little tussle. Lots of random thoughts and thank you guys for sharing and chopping it up with us. You know, Michael M. Hit us up on our live chat. Covino, Rich, fsr. You could watch what you hear. Covino and Rich fsr, He says no on the tab. Like, no on the tab. If you're doing well, you don't flip the tab.

[Rich]

Well, be careful of. You be careful if you do it drunk, high or sober. And I'll tell you why. I went to my 10 year high school reunion, and I'll be honest, I was being a little bit of a show off, okay? Because I came back there and like.

[Covino]

Rich, I like the honesty.

[Rich]

Well, because at the time we were doing a TV show, we were on the radio, and everyone's like, man, Rich is doing. You know, man, we're really happy for you, bro. Like, I was getting a lot of, like, a lot of love at the reunion because I was doing some cool things. And we're doing cool things now. So I was like feeling myself in the moment. So I was like, you know what? Next round's on me. And I looked around, I'm like, oh, my God. It's like a whole reunion class. I looked at my credit card the next day and I bought like a $700 round.

[Covino]

You know what is interesting about it, though? Okay?

[Rich]

Be careful with your, you know, confidence.

[Covino]

All right, here's another situation. I know we got to take a break in a second, but all good. Let's say I'm on a double date. Let's say it's me and my girlfriend Jordan, right? We're on a dinner d with her younger sister and younger sister's husband, right? They're younger than me, so I feel at times, yo, man, I got it and it's an honor. Dinner's on me, right? Don't you feel like that's the good sort of move sometimes? Let's say you're going out to dinner with your younger siblings.

[Rich]

That's I was going to say. Okay, you know what?

[Covino]

But Luka's younger than Chris Dunn in this situation, however, far more successful.

[Rich]

You know what? Think about those scenarios. And then, of course, I have a bunch of NFL I want to get to. So not only going to talk about pay for bar tabs, but I do have a hypothetical when it comes to going out and paying. But NFC playoff picture not clear at all. But I said it yesterday. I think it is very clear based on a few games. And we'll get to that next right here. Fsr, Kavino and Rich.

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All right, we got big sexy Ryan on the ones and twos in for Iowa. Sam. It's always fun hanging with Ryan. Danny G. Super producing on the phones at 87799 on Fox. We are Covino and Rich and we're streaming live at Covino and Rich fsr. Join the chat, join the fun, see what you hear. Spotty's on the videos. He's also getting ready for midweek Major and we're getting ready for the tyrack play of the day. It's time to Luca was hot. Hot as fish grease last night, dropping 24 points in the first quarter alone.

[Rich]

Liver shooting 60%.

[Covino]

Lakers 64. Like you said, not a lot of defense.

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Lucas got more Luca now with 24 in 11 minutes.

[Rich]

Nobody else in the game has double.

[Covino]

Figures and he has 24. That is insane, man.

[Rich]

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[Covino]

And Rich, you know I was talking to our resident Laker fan super producer Danny Gary and he was saying that was one of the bigger issues with the Lakers is that the Clippers sort of always owned them in the regular season. That was their only really bragging, right? And now Lakers have solved that issue too, putting them in their place. 135, 118. Looking nice. So if you're a Lakers fan, good for you. If you're a Clippers fan, man.

[Rich]

Hey, wow. You know, I was going to say, I can't be alone in this feeling. So if you're feeling, like, totally exhausted, but just so anxiously waiting multiple days to lay around and watch football and eat, you're not alone. I'm like, I'm pumped to be here. Love doing the show with you guys, but I feel like, as a general public, Thanksgiving and Black Friday, just for the sense of, like, literally laying around, feeling like a slob watching football. And, you know, you probably could turn the fireplace on, maybe go outside, throw the football around a little bit. Like, everything about the next couple days, I think, is the mental refresher people need as you get into that holiday vibe, because, you know, before. Before you know it, we're gonna be talking about Christmas. So I feel like the next couple days are so needed. Like, so needed.

[Covino]

You know what the bad part is? And I agree with you, but the bad part is I already feel like a slob. And we haven't even hit into the feast yet because I'm at the family's house. You know, I'm visiting family, and there's just treats and snacks everywhere, and I don't have the willpower to say no. And I'm, like, in that. In that holiday mindset, so I'm just picking on everything in sight.

[Rich]

Like, I'm. I'm excited that we're filling in for Dan Patrick tomorrow morning. We're going to have fun. But I also love the idea that that show ends for us at 9am out here on the West Coast. Then I plan on going home, putting on a pair of sweatpants, and maybe not moving for 48 hours.

[Covino]

I thought you were going to say.

[Rich]

Not tying the strings on this. Oh, no, I'm going to that string.

[Covino]

I feel like, are you belly. Are you waistband over the belly or under the belly?

[Rich]

Under.

[Covino]

You got to let.

[Rich]

If you have a little belly, it flaps. You go as you call.

[Covino]

I never understood the over the belly. Like, got maternity pants on Humpty Dumpty?

[Rich]

Yeah, Humpty Dumpty's over. I call it the Farley. Farley is below the belly.

[Covino]

We call it Farley or Dumpty. Which way do you go?

[Rich]

Well, I'm just saying, I think I can't be the only guy that's like, you know what? Starting tomorrow, I'm gonna put on sweatpants and be disgusting for 48 hours, watch some great football and, you know, refresh and then come back to work, you know, fresh on Monday and get ready for Christmas before I know it. But I do want to talk NFC north for a second and then we're going to give away some prizes do midweek Major I had a hypothetical because yesterday I did break down the NFC north and how you got the Bears, the Packers and the Lions and conventional wisdom tells you that when you look at the schedule we did, if you missed yesterday's show, the podcast, we broke down each of those teams remaining games and the Lions have the toughest road ahead. They really do. If they lose tomorrow to the packers and they're seven and five and then they have to go play the Rams and they have a couple divisional games.

[Covino]

Like the packers would be if would be 7 and 4.

[Rich]

They'd be 7, 4 and 1. The Lions, I'm saying would be 7 and 5. Oh yeah, the Lions would be on thin ice because then they have to go play the Rams. So it, it's a tough little road. Let me ask you, of the three quarterbacks who would be letting down the fan bases and the league the most, is it Jared Goff not making the playoffs? Is it Jordan Love with that big contract and you know everyone thought he's the future of that division or would it be Caleb Williams? Like because if they're 8 and 3 in first place, if they fail down the stretch that means him and Ben Johnson didn't finish. Like this is an easy answer but.

[Covino]

I'd love to open it up to everybody. 8 7, 799 on Fox. Think about it. It's the Lions I think because their window sort of closing if they, if they don't, if they're not making it happen now, then when are they going to make it happen? The other guys, younger quarterbacks, younger teams still on the come up.

[Rich]

But think of the Lions time Campbell and golf LA Floor and Love, Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams. Which combo of coach quarterback would be the most disappointing if they're the team that fails to make the postseason? We'll take your feedback next. Cnr.

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[Rich]

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[Rich]

It calls for an ice cold Coca Cola.

[Covino]

Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there.

[Rich]

Yeah, that taste always hits the right note.

[Covino]

Just like the band at halftime.

[Rich]

And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere. And an ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo.

[Covino]

No matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work.

[Rich]

So grab a Coca Cola and keep.

[Covino]

That HBCU pride going.

[Rich]

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[Rich]

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[Covino]

So usually on okay Storytime, our audience.

[Rich]

Will send in their relationship problems.

[Covino]

And the okay Storytime squad gives some good advice goofily.

[Rich]

But today we're not giving out our usual advice. Our producer Riley says we're giving something else. So what are we doing today, Riley? Today we're playing a little game. Oh, I love game. Game is the Man. I bought special gifts for you guys from ebay. Each one picked with one of you in mind. Yeah, Dakota, if you want to guess. All right.

[Covino]

There is a gift at my feet.

[Rich]

Open that.

[Covino]

And now it is in my hands.

[Rich]

Oh, I feel like it's got to be our resident gamer. Key.

[Covino]

This is the rectangle of childhood It's.

[Rich]

A portable game console. I used to have this as a kid, this game console. I used to play all the time. And you know when your mom came into the room when you were a kid and, like, you're pretending to sleep, but. Riley, what a thoughtful gift. Yeah, Riley, thank you so much. Riley, you're crushing it. But we have one more gift. Yeah, we got another one.

[Covino]

Let's open it. Boom.

[Rich]

Oh, camera.

[Covino]

An old timey camera.

[Rich]

That's right.

[Covino]

Classic. This is awesome, because you know how.

[Rich]

I love to take pictures of my travels. Yeah, you're always somewhere, whether it's in Kyrgyzstan with some nomads or just New York, you know, with a nice little.

[Covino]

Piece of trash or a rat taking.

[Rich]

Pictures with the birds. So, Riley, you got all of this from eBay, dude, eBay. It was really fun finding it with you guys. I had very specific things for each one of you. It was all there. Thanks, Riley.

[Covino]

And thank you, ebay.

[Rich]

And guys shop ebay for millions of finds, each with a story. EBay. Things people love.

[Announcer]

This is an Iheart podcast.

[Covino]

Guaranteed human.