C&R - Jack White, Purdy Not So White, Violated Turkey

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show: C&R – Jack White, Purdy Not So White, Violated Turkey

Podcast: The Dan Patrick Show (Covino & Rich segment)
Date: December 2, 2025
Episode Summary:
The C&R crew returns after Thanksgiving break for a raucous, wide-ranging episode blending NFL Week 13 recaps, music and pop culture hot takes, sports media moments, and some unexpectedly X-rated turkey talk. Covino, Rich, Dan Byers, and the crew serve up their signature blend of humor, insider sports insight, and relatable post-holiday exhaustion. Major topics include Detroit’s star-studded halftime show, surprising NFL power shifts, young QBs with dance moves, media baiting in sports journalism, tragic turkey, and whether Joel Embiid and Skechers can change sneaker culture.

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Main Theme & Purpose

The episode is a lively reunion after Thanksgiving, with Covino and Rich (and crew) covering what made Week 13 in the NFL—and the holiday weekend in general—so memorable, strange, or "hmm"-worthy. The show explores the collision of sports, music, and everyday life, serving up strong opinions and banter about NFL games, halftime performances, athlete personalities, and pop-culture oddities. The crew embraces both the high-stakes (playoff races, coaching rumors) and the hilarious or absurd (the “spatchcocked” turkey, new shoe trends), making this episode a catch-all for anyone looking to feel plugged in, amused, and informed.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Thanksgiving Recap & Halftime Show Highlights

[03:06-08:25]

• The guys swap post-holiday greetings and immediately dive into leftover debates, holiday weight gain ("A collective 60 pounds heavier" – Covino, 03:01), and the NFL’s Thursday/Friday games.
• Jack White & Eminem’s Thanksgiving Halftime: Rich and Covino rave about Detroit’s halftime headliner Jack White, then the surprise appearance by Eminem, calling it “the collaboration that dreams are made of” (Covino, 06:36).
  • "That’s what a halftime show’s supposed to be." – Covino [06:46]
• Both guys poke good-natured fun at Jack White’s unusual look ("Edward Scissorhands pale" – Rich, 06:14) but praise his musical prowess.
• Other halftime acts (Post Malone, Lil Jon) get their due, with a running joke about how NBC barely showed Lil Jon’s performance ("…fans erupt after NBC skips Little John’s halftime show…” – Guest/caller, 09:24).

2. NFL Week 13 Reactions & “Things That Made You Go Hmm”

[04:17-15:51]

• Unpredictability is the theme. Big surprises in the Packers, Cowboys, Bengals, Bears, and Broncos results.
• Seahawks & NFC Playoff Picture: Dan Byers breaks down how under-the-radar the Seahawks are at 9-3, with Rich emphasizing how the NFC West is suddenly “fantastic” and wide open (Rich, 13:07).
  • "The NFC West is 9 and 3, 9 and 3, 9 and 4. What a division. It’s fantastic." – Rich [13:07]
• 49ers’ Fate: Rich outlines the scenario for the 49ers—win 11 games, you’re in.
• Quarterback Surprises (Brock Purdy’s Moves): The show debates the internet buzz about Brock Purdy’s Dougie dance, with Covino calling it "corny" and Rich defending Purdy’s rhythm.
  • “All young people dance. Young dudes dance… it just looks corny, I think.” – Covino [14:36]
• Cam Bynum’s Urkel dance after an interception also gets the crew laughing [15:08-15:39].

3. Sports Media 'Bait' & Athlete Reactions

[17:08-20:40]

• Covino and Rich discuss the trend of reporters asking "gotcha" questions meant to provoke negative comments about coaches or play calling.
• Good PR Moves: Both rookie Shador Sanders and veteran Aaron Rodgers are highlighted for refusing to take the bait and throwing no one under the bus, instead showing class and accountability.
  • "I believe in the coaching staff. I believe in Mike Tomlin... players need to take accountability. Myself included." – Aaron Rodgers (as quoted by Covino) [19:31]

4. NFL Team Power Shifts, Injuries, & Blunders

[21:11-23:03, 30:37-36:50]

• Discussion of top defenses (e.g., Browns) floundering due to offensive failures and undisciplined play.
  • “Why are the Browns so bad if they have such a great defense? Because they make a lot of mistakes and the offense can’t do much.” – Rich [20:40]
• Slumping Teams: Both the Lions and Colts are declared ‘toast’—momentum lost, schedules brutal, and playoff prospects fading fast.
  • “Colts are toast. Butter them up. Stick a fork in...” – Rich [32:05]
• The Chargers are also in danger; Texans rising as the "hot" team no one wants to face.

5. Names, Pronunciation, and Sports Culture

[34:00-36:06, 47:30-48:53]

• The crew is thrown by the sudden change in NFL broadcasters pronouncing Marcus Mariota’s name with a hard "T" ("Mariota" vs. "Mariotta"), launching a discussion on frequently mispronounced or changed athlete names (e.g., Tony Dorsett/Dorsett, Terrell Owens, Tyrod Taylor).
  • “All of a sudden, last night, Mariota… However you say it, just don’t say it like NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell: ‘Marcus Mariado’.” – Covino [35:00, 35:56]
• They joke about name changes in pop culture, too.

6. Holiday Leftovers, Games, and Spatchcocking Turkeys

[37:29-39:41]

• A humorous, lighthearted aside on turkey preparation, where Rich confuses "spatchcocked" (a method of flattening poultry for cooking) with various mispronunciations.
  • "My wife did something to the turkey that sounds X-rated… she spatchcocked the turkey." – Rich [37:44]
• They close this bit with tips on playing interactive games on Netflix with friends over (scan and play trivia/games via QR code).

7. NBA & Pop Culture Observations

[48:53-50:55]

• Covino wonders if Joel Embiid can make Skechers "cool" after debuting his own signature shoe ("Can he be the guy to change the stigma?").
  • “Can anyone make Skechers now? ...In the early 2000s, I was rocking them, then they became affiliated with nurses/kids and comfort guys.” – Covino [49:27, 50:22]
• Discussion of shifting brand perceptions and nostalgia in both shoes and cars.

8. Other Notable Sports & Movie Observations

[50:55-51:29]

• Covino recaps boxing highlights (Manny Pacquiao’s son’s debut) and notes upcoming fights.
• Quick mention of seeing "Wicked"—the new movie didn’t impress Covino ("It was wicked like barely good. Wicked okay." – Covino [48:53])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "A collective 60 pounds heavier than when we left, which is amazing."
  – Covino [03:01]
• “That’s what a halftime show’s supposed to be.”
  – Covino, about Jack White/Eminem [06:46]
• “Young people dance. I’m not surprised, but it was a bit of a story that Purdy did the Dougie—and he did it well.”
  – Covino, on Brock Purdy [15:39]
• "Colts are toast. Butter them up... Stick a fork in..."
  – Rich [32:05]
• "All of a sudden, last night, Mariota... However you say it, just don't say it like NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell: 'Marcus Mariado'."
  – Covino [35:00, 35:56]
• “My wife did something to the turkey that sounds X-rated… she spatchcocked the turkey.”
  – Rich [37:44]
• “Can anyone make Skechers ... Joel Embiid debuted his (Skecher) sneaker over the weekend.”
  – Covino [49:27]

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• [03:06-08:25] – Thanksgiving halftime show review (Jack White, Eminem, Post Malone, Lil Jon)
• [09:04-15:51] – "Things that make you go hmm": NFL surprises, playoff race, Brock Purdy Dougie, Cam Bynum's Urkel dance
• [17:08-20:40] – Media baiting: Shador Sanders & Aaron Rodgers impress in postgame interviews
• [21:11-23:03 & 30:37-36:50] – Lions & Colts playoff chances plummeting, injury impacts, and dangerous schedules
• [34:00-36:06 & 47:30-48:53] – Pronunciation and names in sports, Mariota, and other infamous changes
• [37:29-39:41] – Spatchcocking turkeys, post-Thanksgiving family gaming on Netflix
• [48:53-50:55] – NBA shoe trends: Joel Embiid and Skechers; new perceptions of "dad shoe" brands
• [50:55-51:29] – Quick hits: Boxing, "Wicked" movie, wrap-up

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Overall Tone & Style

• High-energy, conversational, joking, and irreverent
• Heavy dose of banter, inside jokes, and playful ribbing
• Signature Covino & Rich mix of sports expertise, pop-culture, and “dude radio” entertainment

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For Listeners Who Missed the Show

This episode is essential if you:

• Want both laughs and insight on the NFL’s wildest Week 13 twists
• Missed the buzz around Detroit’s halftime spectacle or Purdy’s on-field dance
• Love behind-the-curtain takes on sports media, athlete branding, and locker room culture
• Appreciate fun digressions about holiday food, streaming games, or "violated" turkeys

Covino & Rich are back in peak form—covering both the stats and the stories that make post-holiday sports fandom uniquely weird, funny, and unifying.

Transcript

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[Covino]

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[Rich]

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[Covino]

Here we are, the gangs all back together after the holidays.

[Rich]

Ho ho ho.

[Covino]

A collective 60 pounds heavier than when we left, which is amazing.

[Rich]

Wow.

[Covino]

All right.

[Rich]

Hey, Kavino. Rich, I was Sam's running the boards. What's up, Sammy? Hi.

[Covino]

Great to see Sam. Danny G looking handsome on the phones at 87799 on Fox. He's our super producer. Spots on the videos cause we're streaming live.

[Rich]

Hey guys.

[Covino]

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[Rich]

All right, hold on now. Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Are you eating leftovers after today? That's four days, dude. Eat at your own risk. You don't want to.

[Covino]

Nah.

[Rich]

I did getting sick.

[Covino]

I did Thanksgiving in Jersey with the fam, so all the leftovers are there. I escaped the leftovers back in LA to healthy living back at the gym today and again, just wish everyone a happy belated Thanksgiving. Hope you enjoy time with friends and family. I'm exhausted from the travel, but ready to talk some foosball and week 13. I'm ready to wrap up 13 with a weak ass Monday Night Football game. We'll get you excited about other stuff because that game's going to be doo doo pie.

[Rich]

I mean, is it or. I mean, could we be shocked?

[Covino]

I mean, anything's possible with Stranger Things on Netflix. We are living in the Upside Down.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

All the teams that we thought were going to be good are just okay. And then of course you got the packers, the Cowboys, Bengals and Bears just dominating. Oh my. And of course Broncos with the win.

[Rich]

You keep just naming the Thursday and Friday games. You did that earlier. Did you check out after Friday?

[Covino]

No, because those are the biggest surprises to me.

[Rich]

The games that happen to be on.

[Covino]

Thanksgiving, the Thanksgiving games all surprised me. I know Rich said, you know, he.

[Rich]

Was going to say that's the packets.

[Covino]

He believed in the Cowboys, bro.

[Rich]

That feels like five years ago in none of that.

[Covino]

Well, I hate to Break it to you. That was part of the weekend fun.

[Rich]

That was five days ago.

[Covino]

I don't remember talking about it with you. So hope you enjoyed all the games. Hope you enjoyed all the fixins. And we're here to discuss all of week 13, not just yesterday. That's what we do, right?

[Rich]

Yep.

[Covino]

So let's get into it. We do it every Monday. Things that made you go, hmm.

[Rich]

Let's go, baby.

[Covino]

Things that make you go.

[Rich]

Things that make you go.

[Covino]

Well, Mom's stuffing made me go, mmm. But a lot of those games I mentioned made me go, hmm. Rich, you've been on fire with your calls. But I did not see the packers winning. I told you. I said the Lions winning.

[Rich]

The Lions. Implosion began this week.

[Covino]

Well, you know what?

[Rich]

We.

[Covino]

Speaking of that game, let me start off with the positive. I'm wearing my Honolulu blue today. Covino and Rich sweatshirt. Covino, enriched, calm. Get your holiday merch. I'm wearing this because. Well, not because of the Lions, because I thought their halftime show was superb.

[Rich]

It was.

[Covino]

Jack White is a Rock and Roll hall of Famer, a local legend. It was good enough with just Jack White. I'm a big White Stripes fan. I love him. I think he's a royal weirdo, but I think he's phenomenally.

[Rich]

Pale. And, hold on. I would say you look at that guy and you don't think he's a peculiar fella.

[Covino]

He's very pale.

[Rich]

Kind of like Edward Scissorhands pale.

[Covino]

That's fine.

[Rich]

You think Edward Scissorhand looks like a normal dude?

[Covino]

I just don't want people to. That's my guy. Even though musically, he is.

[Rich]

Musically. What's weird about him? Besides the paleness? Hairstyle, look. Everything about the guy.

[Covino]

He's a rock star. Aesthetically, he looks kind of strange. Aesthetically strange, right. But as far as musically, one of my favorites.

[Rich]

He rocked the joints.

[Covino]

Rock contours, White Stripes. Like all of his stuff, his solo stuff. So he comes out and rocks it out, and you're thinking, now, this is a halftime show. This is great. This is Local Pride. He's from Detroit Rock City. And then, sure enough, you get the collaboration that dreams are made of. Pleasing everybody in the world of rock and hip hop. Eminem comes out and you're thinking, now, that's a halftime show, bro. Cuz everybody's pumped and excited and surprised and happy in that moment. That's a halftime show.

[Rich]

Apparently, in that moment, Bad Bunny let out a big guy. Dios mio.

[Covino]

No, seriously, dude. Because that hits Every pocket of awesome. I loved it. And I'm not criticizing Bad Bunny or what that spectacle is going to be, but that really did hit all the. The feels, all the sweet spots of. Of what you're into. Little rock, little hip hop, Both legends, hometown pride. That got me fired up. That's what a halftime show's supposed to be.

[Rich]

There was something way cool and way fun about Jack White.

[Covino]

Now, I know that feels like a long time ago, Rich, but I never got a chance to express how pumped I was. And today's my day, so that was awesome, man.

[Rich]

Today's the last day of leftovers, and today's the last day you could talk about Thanksgiving games.

[Covino]

I mean, hey, it made me go, hmm. And it made me say, that's what halftime's supposed to be.

[Rich]

Now, Post Malone, I usually find to be a more intriguing artist, but I feel like his set was sort of a. A stinker. I love Post Malone. I love his Dallas Cowboy. Love again. In that game, they brought out another hometown dude. Post Malone loves his Cowboys.

[Guest or caller]

You know what my favorite was? The 10 seconds of little John that NBC showed.

[Rich]

People were like, what happened to the.

[Guest or caller]

Little John halftime show?

[Covino]

And what was the other one? Because I missed it. Wasn't there another halftime show or was that. Was that it?

[Guest or caller]

I think that that was it. Yeah. It's those three artists that were.

[Covino]

Oh, those are the three.

[Guest or caller]

Those were the three being advertised for Thanksgiving.

[Covino]

Yeah. So what made you go, hmm, all things are fair. Week 13 NFL could have been a movie you watched. Hold on.

[Rich]

I can't play along.

[Covino]

I got NBA thoughts. I got movie thoughts. I got all sorts of thoughts.

[Rich]

I can't play along. What is he. What the hell? What are you talking about? Lil Jon.

[Covino]

Lil Jon came out. I remember Baltimore.

[Rich]

There was a halftime show.

[Guest or caller]

There was a halftime show. They didn't. They didn't show it, though.

[Covino]

Hold on. Rich knows this because he posed this question on our Patreon this morning.

[Rich]

This morning?

[Covino]

Wasn't there another one? I was like, yeah, there was. It was a hip hop act. That couldn't happen.

[Rich]

Someone corrected us and said, no. They did, like, a John Madden tribute.

[Guest or caller]

The telecast went to the John Madden tribute, but in the stadium, Little John was performing.

[Rich]

They didn't show us.

[Guest or caller]

They came back right before commercial and showed like, 10 seconds. Little John.

[Covino]

That's okay.

[Rich]

I'm glad because I was like, wait a minute. Was I. Was I in a food coma?

[Covino]

No, but that makes you go like.

[Rich]

I thought the other two were entertaining. And I remember thinking like, yes, we had people over and I'm like, I feel like everyone would have stopped and been like, oh, look, it's Lil John.

[Guest or caller]

Yeah, there was a headline here. It says, fans erupt after NBC skips Little John's halftime show during Bengals Ravens game.

[Covino]

And I'll bring it up to yesterday's speed Rich. And look, all's fair as far as week 13. As far as I'm concerned, uh, Rich doesn't want to talk about anything that happened Thursday, Friday.

[Dan Byers]

But I'm here for.

[Rich]

It's been four or five days of sports talk between then and now.

[Covino]

I'm here for it. Guess what I was doing? Not on the radio. So I'm here for it though. And I'll bring you up to speed from yesterday with all sorts of observations. Vikings stink, right? We could admit the Vikings are done. They lost their way with a four and eight. Lost their way. Just no bueno. I'm watching some of the pre game show and I'm watching. I think it was on Red Zone. I saw it, but I saw that the big Dumper Cal Raleigh was at the game, Seattle. Did you see that? And when you think of the Big Dumper, you just think, this guy hits bombs. He's a big dude. We saw him at the all star game. And when you think wide receivers, when I think Cooper Cup, I don't think of him to be as, you know, big fella. I think of him as an average fella. You know, side by side. He looked bigger than big Thumper.

[Rich]

Was that Cooper cup or Jake Paul?

[Covino]

Exactly, because he looked big like Jake Paul. I don't think of Cooper cup as big like that. And he was just as big, if not bigger than the big dumper Cal Raleigh, side by side.

[Rich]

We disagree. I would have thought Cooper cup, definitely bigger.

[Covino]

I see. I wouldn't have thought of him that way. He looked bigger.

[Rich]

Oh, you're talking about height or ass size?

[Covino]

I'm talking just all around mammothity and mass ass size.

[Rich]

Cal Raleigh.

[Covino]

Well, Cal raw, he's got the big ass. We know that. But it was cool to see them and their mutual respect and just to see like a guy that I think of as a smaller whiteout is just as big as anybody in the mlb, just looking big like a beast. But Cooper cup leading Seattle 26 nothing over the Vikings. That made me say, I mean, started off lightly.

[Rich]

What makes me think that's even bigger than you think? I mean, I know Minnesota is not a the most formidable opponent, but damn buyer has to be like secretly pumped that this team is like so under the radar. Good right now when you see the Eagles and we said this like a week ago, so I feel, we feel like geniuses here. The Eagles are like always feel like they're on the brink of unraveling. The south stinks. I mean, whether it's the Bucks or the Panthers, that that's a first round elimination. The west is stacked and the north is confusing. Yo, the Seattle Seahawks might be like arguably the top two teams in the NFC right now. What is going on?

[Covino]

Nine and three. There's, there's dope.

[Dan Byers]

I thought yesterday on a scroll, guys, of one of the, one of the screens that it was. They were tied for second for the shortest odds for the Super Bowl. So they were tied for second. I don't know if it was Rams number one because the Rams have the edge over them right now, but it's true. And in fact, when you look at the playoff picture, you always have to kind of read with the details. Like you look at the Bears, they're number one, right? NFC on top everything. Look at playoff probability for them right now and then look at what it is for the Rams and the Seahawks where they're locked in a lot more than the Bears are. But yeah, guys, it's right there. And coming up in a couple of weeks, the Seahawks have the Rams coming to Seattle for a Thursday night game with an opportunity to overtake the division lead in the NFC West. And then a date looms with Rich's niners in week 18.

[Covino]

Dude.

[Rich]

And as of right now, I mean, I know my Niner, my Niners are in full health, but who is right? I mean, I thought the season was, yeah, maybe a wash after Bosa and then Fred Warner got hurt. But the Niners are showing some grit and heart. They're well coached.

[Covino]

9, 4 looking solid. They beat the Browns just like you thought they would.

[Rich]

They're winning the games. They should and. And DB. What a division. When you think that the, the 49ers, my 49ers are 9 and 4 and they're in third place. The NFC west is 9 and 3, 9 and 3, 9 and 4. What a division. It's fantastic.

[Dan Byers]

Seahawks have a game against the Falcons coming up this week, so that should be. That's a winnable football game for them. But it's funny because with those percent chances, the Buccaneers are at 80, 86%. Packers are at 88. The Bears right now still 76% playoff possibility. Where your Niners, Rich? 92% that they're going to be in.

[Rich]

Well, you know why? Because the Niners have a bye week and then they play the Titans, who are 1 in 10. You win that game, you're 10 and 4. And as we've done the math, I think you need to win 11 games and you're in. Which means a Niner would have to win one of their final three. And then you're 11 and 6. And I feel like that might be enough to punch a ticket to the playoffs.

[Dan Byers]

Yeah, it better be. Last year there were 15 double digit win teams in the NFL. One missed the playoffs. That was the Seahawks. They were 10 and seven.

[Rich]

Seven. I think 11. 11. Does it.

[Covino]

What does Brock Purdy do that Hootie? The Dougie or the gritty? What's he doing?

[Guest or caller]

You liked how he hit that motion.

[Covino]

Yeah. What's he doing next?

[Rich]

I don't know why you guys are.

[Covino]

So do the worm if they make playoffs.

[Rich]

Why is everyone so shocked as George Kittleson after the game? Why is it weird to you that some white dude has rhythm? Hit me with the Dougie. I was Sam, do you know how to do the Dougie?

[Covino]

It's not really that weird. All young people dance. Young dudes dance. All young dudes dance. It just looks corny, I think. Just doesn't look.

[Rich]

And you think he looked cornier? I thought he looked smooth.

[Covino]

He danced for like half a second. Corny. He's a great football player, but he's sort of nerdy. It's like Eli Manning doing the Dougie.

[Rich]

Do you think Brock Purdy's as nerdy as Eli Manning?

[Covino]

Yes.

[Guest or caller]

I want to see him do the Harlem shake.

[Covino]

So a young person dancing, that's just like sort of their birthright. All young dudes do that.

[Rich]

All right, so then let me ask you what.

[Covino]

I'm not like that impressed, but it just looks odd because we're not used to it. Well, I'm not mad at him for doing it.

[Rich]

What was more fun for you? Seeing Brock Purdy do the Dougie or Cam Bynum? After an interception for the Colts, he broke out a dance and everyone's like, what's that dance? Why does that look familiar? It was the Urkel dance.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Urkel dance.

[Covino]

All you have to do is hitch up your pants. That's Richard's birthright. Urkel.

[Rich]

This is what I would do.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich]

Did I do that? Got any cheese? Did I do that? Everybody. Urkel dance.

[Covino]

Young people dance. I'm not surprised, but it was a bit of a story that Purdy did the Dougie and he did it well. But it's Just. I don't know. There's something there. I just. I don't know if I'm the guy to point it out.

[Guest or caller]

We see him pushing cowboy boots in TV commercials. That's why.

[Covino]

Yeah, that's probably it. Gotta talk. Steelers to the Steelers lose to the bills 26 7. Steelers are 6 and 6. And the buzz here is. And we see Aaron Rodgers looking old, taking those hits, bleeding, getting sacked, blood on his nose and everything else.

[Rich]

He bled his own blood.

[Covino]

He. He bled his own blood. It just adds to the sad story. And you see the highlights and you see the photos, and you're like, these hits have to hurt a little more. And getting up, you feel it in your back, and you feel it in your. In your bones. You're like, I'm too old for this nonsense. So what's the end of Tomlin and Rogers? And I say, yeah, it looks that way. He's the beginning of the end, right?

[Rich]

Was it the hit that Bosa put on him?

[Covino]

I think so.

[Rich]

Where you were like, oh, it looked.

[Covino]

Like you could feel. When you watch those plays and you watch Aaron, like, there's something about it. Like, you feel it in your. In your huevos. Like, you feel it. Oh, you feel it in your bones when he's hit.

[Rich]

You know. You know when I, like, send you a video, like, I don't know, like, some fat mom or dad, like, trying to do a cartwheel and they fall and you feel their pain, like, oh, I. You don't usually feel that in sports because you're like, oh, they're professional athletes. When Aaron Rodgers gets smushed, you're like. Like, dad, you okay?

[Guest or caller]

Sciatica kicks in.

[Covino]

Yeah, exactly. There's something about that.

[Rich]

So, interestingly enough, if you want to talk about things that made you go, week 13 of the NFL, I think there's a trend of. And I get it, because we live in a clickbait world. We live in a world where you see short little clips on TikTok and Instagram, and that's the world we live in. So you can't deny how we consume clips and media. Right. Like a lot of things, you see the sad reality is you're like, yeah, I saw it.

[Covino]

We live in a red zone sort.

[Rich]

Of world on TikTok. Yeah, I did see both of these clips on TikTok. I can't lie. I'm scrolling. And you see some of the sports highlights, and there's a trend of. And I get it, because if you're a reporter, what do you want? You want People to be clicking. So a lot of reporters trying to set up quarterbacks and players with like, gotcha type of questions. And I thought it was cool that a young dude like Shador Sanders. Here's the juxtaposition, my favorite word of the month. A young guy who just started in the league and another guy who's like, been in the league 20 years, both being baited by the press, insinuating like, come on, say something bad about your coach. And neither guy, 20 years old or 40 years old, essentially took the bait. Let's start with Chidor questioning Kevin Stefanski's play calling. And they were trying to get Shador to throw coach onto the bus. Did you like Kevin having the aggressiveness.

[Covino]

There, even backed up in your character? I mean, first, that's a rude question to ask if I'm. If I think, you know, it was a great call by my coach.

[Dan Byers]

You know, like the aggression, not. You like the call.

[Rich]

But do you like.

[Covino]

I like being out there playing. So. So whatever that comes with, it comes with. I love that reaction. I do. I don't know how rude it was. How rude. But again, it was a question of baiting him to say something negative.

[Rich]

I mean, but it's.

[Covino]

But I love that he spun it positive because I think we all get that vibe. Even though he couldn't do much against your 49ers rich, you know, he wants to be out there playing and I love that for him.

[Rich]

I don't know if it was Stephanie Tanner.

[Covino]

Rude. Yeah. No, I don't. But, I mean, but he was baiting him, though.

[Rich]

And then Aaron Rodgers took more of an approach of like, I see what you're trying to do here.

[Dan Byers]

Do you see the flatness within the game and in practice as something that's.

[Rich]

Not being done right from a coaching.

[Covino]

Aspect or preparation aspect that's kind of.

[Rich]

Framing you guys in the wrong way. He looks. He looks. For a second.

[Covino]

I know what you're trying to ask.

[Rich]

And I'm not going to go down.

[Covino]

That road at all. I believe in the coaching staff. I believe in Mike Tomlin.

[Rich]

That's why I came here.

[Covino]

And players need to take accountability, myself included. And I will, and I will continue to. I got to play better. Another great response, man, there's.

[Rich]

And I get it. Because you get these guys in a vulnerable post game moment where their adrenaline still pumping, they're coming off a loss. Both of those guys coming off an L. People were cheering or chanting, fire Tomlin at the game. I think he was being picked up by the Cameras and Chidor knows, you know.

[Covino]

You know, Rogers could have done, though it would have been petty, but he could have hit him back with, like, what do you think? Because remember when they asked Tomlin about Rogers and his performance, he said something kind of questionable. I thought in response it was a little long lines of, what did you think? Or you saw it. What do you think Rogers could have hit him back with that? Yeah, tell me what you think. But again, it would have been petty and uncalled for. And that's his coach, and I do believe that's why he went. If he didn't believe in Tomlin, he wouldn't be on the Steelers right now getting his ass handed to him. So I thought great responses handled well by a rookie and a veteran in that situation. You know what I made me go.

[Rich]

I'll tell you what made me go. And you probably see this week to week db, because I know you're monitoring these games when you're live here on Fox Sports Radio. I wonder, I'm like, why are the Browns so bad if they have such a great defense? Because they make a lot of mistakes and the offense really can't do much. Special teams, they make, they, I don't know, just like, blunders. Like the Niners. The Niners didn't play that well, yet they won by, like, almost 20. There's like a muffed punt. There's like, fourth downs where they fumble the snap. Like, this is a folly of errors.

[Dan Byers]

Yeah, it.

[Rich]

It.

[Dan Byers]

I would have to think it's pretty amazing in the contrast, because I know you're a 49ers fan, but there are obvious warts, especially because of the injuries, where maybe you're not believing as much in your team, but they are just significantly better than a team that is one of the best units in all of the NFL defense. It is such a weird contrast, like.

[Rich]

Discipline and, like, good coaching and like, minimizing your little mistakes. Like.

[Dan Byers]

Yeah, I think it makes you realize that your problems aren't as bad as you may think that they are, especially at 9 and 4. Like, when you see how other shops are run.

[Rich]

Yeah, it's. It was. It was wild. I'm like, man, this team, if I'm a Browns fan and our buddy Shea here owes me Chipotle, he hit me up and he goes, yo, bet on the game. And I'm like, you want to bet on your Browns? I'll take free Chipotle, but you're a young kid. I'm not going to take more than that. But I'll let you buy me a burrito bowl. You really want to bet this? He's like, yeah. So yeah, that Browns team personnel wise, you would think like they kept talking the whole game about how number two defense, number two this sacks on quarterback, rushing and pressure they put on the quarterback. And it's true. It's just they, they can't do much more than that.

[Covino]

Well, I was gonna say I hope he had a Panther sort of weekend. We gotta talk about them, too. There were some big surprises over this weekend and we've had that all season long. Week 13 so what were your thoughts in the world of movies? I saw some movies that made me say, hmm. I saw some things in the NBA that made me say. I saw things in the fight game that made me say, hmm. But we'll take your phone calls and feedback next. Anything you observed as we head into your weak ass. Monday Night Football game is Cavino and Rich. It's good to be back. And remember, we're broadcasting on covino and Rich FSR on YouTube and our podcast. Be sure to search Covino and Rich on the podcast. Give us five stars. We got games to play. We got things to discuss. We do it next right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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[Covino]

So I watched the Thanksgiving Day parade. I saw Santa come. So it's officially Christmas time. Happy Christmas time guys. Happy Merry Christmas holidays. Your friends Kavino and Rich.

[Rich]

Parade outdated, would you say? Parade outdated.

[Covino]

There's still a lot of people that show up. No, I'm saying my kids. I don't think kids care the way we cared growing up.

[Rich]

Especially out here in the west coast. You'd have to watch A replay of a parade, which is almost as lame as watching a parade. Yeah, I think it starts out here like 5am yeah.

[Guest or caller]

My grandmother had a lot. She lived here her whole life in la. She had a lot of replays on every holiday.

[Rich]

Yeah, just to me. I don't know. By the time my kids woke up, they were up late the night before. We were watching movies and whatnot. They woke up like 9, 10 in the morning. And it was almost time for football. Right. It was like football was starting and mom was starting to cook.

[Covino]

Parade, parade, parades.

[Rich]

I don't know.

[Covino]

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[Rich]

Two observations.

[Covino]

Sure.

[Rich]

One with football, one that has nothing to do with football.

[Covino]

Yeah, I got a bunch of different ones.

[Rich]

Football. Sorry, Detroit fans. I declared it last week that if you lost your you were chopped. It's over. Right. Could very well be the case. Seven and five now and they're have it up. You know, they have some tough games. It might be it for the Lions. Could I give you my other team that I think is headed in that direction and, and you know, don't need to obviously say this because I think it is obvious after yesterday, they caught some bad luck. The Colts. Yeah, the momentum's a thing. And if moment, if you believe in momentum, look at their schedule coming up. And yesterday was more important than you thought because now Texans defense is good.

[Covino]

Huh? But I thought the Colts were still good enough to, to maybe pull that one out.

[Guest or caller]

Rich, I feel like the Colts are similar to the Chargers situation where they have money in the bank from their wins earlier in the year.

[Rich]

They do. It's almost like they're playing with. They're playing. They were playing with house money a while, but you're now in second place technically behind the Jags. Houston's right there on your heels at 7 and 5. And if you look at indie schedule coming up, it's not nice. They play the Jags in an amazing early game on Sunday, then they have to go play your Seahawks. Then they, the Colts have to play my Niners. Then they play the Jags again. And then the Texans. Colts are toast. Butter them up. Dude, they had toast. Stick a fork as grandma would do. Put a little cinnamon sugar on it while you're at it.

[Covino]

The Colts are not looking good. Texans over the Colts this weekend. What up, db? Your thoughts?

[Dan Byers]

Well, I was just a man. Rich Davis, you just stole my line, you guys. Yeah, you may have, you may have heard, you may have heard of if the glove don't fit, you must acquit.

[Rich]

I do know that one. Yeah.

[Dan Byers]

If Daniel Jones can't run, the Colts are done. And he has a fracture in his leg and he cannot move.

[Rich]

I've heard people say that. Can't run. Colts are done.

[Dan Byers]

Yes, that is exactly it. So you know Johnny Cochran up there is giving us the thumbs up on that one. He's got a fracture in his leg. Sauce Gardner is now out couple of weeks because of his calf strain. They just gave up two first round picks for him. Yes, momentum is not a friend of those in Indy.

[Rich]

Dude, that Chiefs loss that we were like, well, you know, you win some, you lose some and the Chiefs needed it. That loss to the Chiefs and then that loss to the Texans yesterday and then again, Kavino, they're 8 and 4. I would not be like, I would not. Well, I think they're going to go under.500 in their final five. I wouldn't be shocked if they're one in four. They play the Jags twice, the Niners, the Seahawks, and the Texans again. That is the most unforgiving schedule. Colts are toast.

[Dan Byers]

Did you see they wore their alternate uniforms yesterday? They didn't wear the horseshoe. It was a man walking under a ladder.

[Covino]

Done, done, done, done.

[Dan Byers]

That's bad luck. The horseshoe is good luck.

[Rich]

That's bad luck. Black cat on their head. Cinnamon Toast Crunch.

[Dan Byers]

That's next. Yeah, that's, that's for the 49er games. The black cat uniforms.

[Rich]

So we talked about the, the Lions last week and now it's the Colts, two teams that, my goodness, how things work so quickly. A month ago we're saying, yo, Daniel Jones have the juice to win a Super Bowl. Yo, does this team have the juice to make the postseason? I say no.

[Covino]

Well, you know who has the juice?

[Rich]

No, I think's out, by the way. I think The Colts are out, and I think the Chargers, if they stumble one more time. There's. There's teams that are on their tail. There's hot teams like the Texans that you don't want to bump into right now.

[Covino]

No, no, they're heating up, sure. But who has the Juice? How far would you go to get it? Des Rocks has the Juice. Des Rocks has a new song called the Juice out. But the Broncos got the Juice and they beat the Commanders yesterday. And you know what made me say. Hmm? The pronunciation of Marcus Mariota.

[Rich]

I'm sorry, do you mean Mariota?

[Covino]

The emphasis on the tea, the hard tea, all of a sudden had the world thrown for a loop last night, bro.

[Rich]

I did what we all do. I immediately went to social media and.

[Covino]

I read there were 17 different pronunciations of Marioto.

[Rich]

I was like, please say Mariota. This is driving me insane. It was driving me insane to the point where I was like, I can't be the only one. This is annoying. I go on Twitter. It's trending. No one can understand why all of a sudden, Chris Collinsworth is putting some hard emphasis on Mariota.

[Covino]

Well, what made me go, hmm, is there had to be some sort of pre show meeting where he actually said or someone actually said. Well, the real pronunciation is Mariota.

[Guest or caller]

Because he's said that to the press. They've asked them.

[Covino]

All of a sudden, they.

[Guest or caller]

How does your family say it? Right. We've heard other players say their names, but that's not how the general public or sports reporters say the name.

[Rich]

So, yeah, earlier in the year, remember, Bijan Robinson was like, it's Bichon, but you guys can call me Bijan.

[Guest or caller]

And of course, the To Rod Tyrod, all that. But this was funny because one of the only things, one of the only reasons I would trade Brenda in is she hits her tees really hard and annoys me every day. Instead of just saying mountains, look at the mountains over there. She says, look at the mountains over there.

[Covino]

Often she hits her so hard on.

[Guest or caller]

Every word that has a T in it. I know that's nitpicking.

[Covino]

I've often. You should divorce her.

[Guest or caller]

No, we tease her. The family teases her, though.

[Covino]

Decade Danny G. That we've known this well over. Well over a decade, he's been Marcus Mariota. All of a sudden, last night, Mariota. However you say it, just don't say.

[Rich]

It like NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell.

[Covino]

Marcus Mariado. Yes, exactly.

[Guest or caller]

You know what's crazy? Brenda's been saying his name the right way this whole time.

[Covino]

See, that made me go home last night. But The Broncos again, 10 and 2, looking dominant.

[Rich]

I said the other team besides the Colts that if they don't get their act together, could be done. So they won yesterday. They beat up your Raiders. That's not a good gauge. No offense, Danny G. Right, the Chargers. Listen to the Charger schedule coming up. Eagles, Chiefs. The Rich loves to look at the schedule game. They play the Eagles, the Chiefs, who, you know are going to be fighting for a spot at that point. Then they have to go to Dallas, who the Cowboys have looked really good. Then they play the Texans and the Broncos, Chargers and Colts. Enjoy it while it last because I think you might be on the outside looking in within a few weeks.

[Covino]

You Aaron Lewis and stained. But Rich, I'll tell you what. You know what made me go about Danny's Raiders is Max Crosby knocking Herbert on his ass and then like, realizing, yeah, it was great. But then realizing, like, ah, my bad. He apologized to him and, you know, they sort of hugged it out a little bit.

[Guest or caller]

He pulled a Philip Rivers, though. Like, remember that famous clip where Philip Rivers is shouting in the defender's ear that time? Philip Rivers did not get pushed down the way all of us wished he did. And half the Internet was like, thank goodness someone needs to push Herbert down when he's screaming like that.

[Covino]

But I, you know, noticeable. I don't know how I feel about it, but I thought it was interesting to see. Made me go.

[Rich]

I got an observation. Not football related. Thanksgiving night, we got a couple people over the house trying to figure out how was she throwing, you know, games are over. I saw your gravy. Oh, the gravy. The fixings. I saw that gravy. I'll give you something.

[Covino]

Sounds X rated.

[Rich]

My wife did something to the turkey that sounds X rated. She, like, spicaked it or something. Doodle it. What did. What did she do to it?

[Dan Byers]

Spatchcock.

[Rich]

Thank you. Yeah, yeah. I thought Spot. I posted something about Spatchcock. My wife is the cook of the house. Even on the green egg.

[Covino]

Everything of the house, by the way. My wife a handyman.

[Rich]

My wife is the man of the house. Really?

[Covino]

Does she does everything? Yeah. She's also like the landscaper and everything.

[Rich]

Lots of kids.

[Covino]

Babysitter, does all the crafting.

[Rich]

My wife, candlestick maker. She spicaked the turkey. No, no, I don't think you're getting it right. What is it, Spot?

[Covino]

Spatchcocked.

[Rich]

There you go.

[Covino]

You're gonna talk about it multiple times a day. Maybe you should get it Right. Mariota. It's a well known term.

[Rich]

Rich, can you please explain the process of spatchcocking? Thank you. Apparently she said she violated this bird. Like you have to like break it apart and break its. Essentially make it flat. And she put on the green egg and it was the juiciest, best turkey we've ever had in our spine.

[Covino]

So it could lay flat for real.

[Rich]

You remove the backbone and then you flatten the breast. Everything cooks evenly.

[Covino]

So it's not, you know, you're not having dry. I think we all know the process. I didn't know it was called that.

[Rich]

Yeah, well, anyway, it was fantastic. Juiciest turkey. After the fixings, after the food, after the football. I throw on Netflix and I just want to throw this out here. This is an observation I made. Have you ever played games on Netflix? No. You could play like there's all these multiplayer games. No, I didn't even have that board.

[Covino]

I'm not.

[Rich]

I'm just saying, Danny, if the five of us are at my house, right, we could all scan a QR code and you're playing like Pictionary on your phone. On the tv. There's team trivia that you just. You just scan a QR code. I don't think most people even know this exists.

[Guest or caller]

I've seen it because co op presses on it constantly thinking it's a video clip.

[Rich]

You scroll past it all the time. But there's a game section where there's all these like interactive games. So if you got friends over or your kids or whatever, hey, give it a shot. This is a weekend observation, is it not?

[Covino]

Okay, I got another weekend observation then. And I'll save mine after Dan Byer gives you a sweet ass update. Was that what he's sweet ass? I mean, Dan Byer's got a sweet ass.

[Dan Byers]

True. But also I was trying to look for the spatchcocked chicken that I had cooked couple of years ago. I have the old picture on the photo album on the phone. So likely coming to an inbox near you. Oh, God, guys. Coming to a college football field near you, or at least in Baton Rouge. Lane Kiffin, introduced today as the new head football coach at lsu.

[Rich]

I felt like everybody that I talked to outside of the state that I.

[Covino]

Was in all basically said the same thing.

[Dan Byers]

You are going to regret it if you don't take the shot and you.

[Covino]

Don'T go to lsu.

[Rich]

It's the best job in America, was.

[Dan Byers]

The best resources and to win it. So Kiffin is not going to coach Ole Miss. We knew that in the College Football Playoff, but he could get paid for how well they do. Baton Rouge Advocate says that LSU is going to pay him the bonuses that he could have earned if he would have coached Ole Miss through the College Football Playoff. As for his annual average, his annual salary guys $13 million second in all of college football behind Georgia's Kirby Smart. That, according again to the Baton Rouge Advocate, UCLA is hiring James Madison head coach Bob Chesney to lead the Bruins football program. North Carolina State and Virginia are going to play a game in Brazil in 2026. Every Olympic dream starts with the first glide through. Learn to Skate USA kids build confidence, strength and joy on the ice. Learn to Skate USA offers programs for skaters of all ages and abilities. Find a near you@ learntosateusa.com Vikings waived veteran wide receiver Adam Thielen. He wants to go to a contender, so the Vikings granted him his wish. He also said Thielen did in a statement. This is his last year in the NFL and he'll return to retire as a Viking at some point. Vikings quarterback JJ McCarthy expected to start in Week 14 against the Commanders while Washington QB Jaden Daniels still hasn't been cleared for contact from his elbow injury. Cardinals won't open up the practice window for quarterback Kyler Murray this week. Lions wide receiver Amon Russ St. Brown didn't practice today in the Lions place. Corner Terry and Arnold on injured reserve. Sauce Gardner of the Colts, as we mentioned earlier, going to miss a couple of weeks because of his calf injury. Guys, back to you.

[Covino]

Thank you, Dan Buyer. Now Rich, I watched some movies, I watched some fights. I made some other observations and I'll share them next. And we get to your phone calls too. At 87799 on Fox, we'll wrap up things that made you go hmm this holiday weekend.

[Rich]

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[Covino]

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[Covino]

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[Rich]

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[Covino]

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[Rich]

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[Covino]

For some of our gray shirts, it's.

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[Rich]

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[Covino]

Covino and Rich, wishing you a happy belated Thanksgiving. Hope you had a great time with friends and family. Now the holiday season is officially underway, it's Christmas time and we're live from the FOX Sports Radio studio and it's time for our tire rack play of the day. The Broncos blocked Moriota in overtime. Who Mori. Ota in overtime.

[Dan Byers]

Mario Denver with the blitz on the way.

[Rich]

Ball deflected by Nick Bonito and the Broncos win it. Great.

[Covino]

Great play by Nick Bonito. He came untouched.

[Dan Byers]

And the Broncos in overtime have beaten the commanders 27 to 26.

[Rich]

And the frustrating part of your Commanders fan, get that ball over Benito's hand. It's a walk in two point conversion. You win that game. And it was a hard fought battle. But Mariota looked pretty good. He looked pretty good. I feel like he is a legitimate backup in the NFL.

[Covino]

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[Rich]

Go any, any other athletes come to mind where we just started pronouncing their name different. Our buddy Rob who listens on our affiliate in San Antonio said in college it was Tony Dorsett and then in the NFL it was Tony Dorsett. Terrell Owens, Terrell Owens, Terrell Terrad and Theisman.

[Guest or caller]

They went to Theisman. Rhyme with Heisman.

[Rich]

Yeah. Theisman, Theisman. And he broke his Theisman, didn't he?

[Covino]

Jorge Bell, George Bell. After a while, like we started switching up names.

[Rich]

Giancarlo Stanton was originally Mike Stanton.

[Covino]

He changed his name. Yeah.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

Sarah Michelle Geller went to Galar.

[Rich]

It's true.

[Covino]

Sarah Michelle Galar.

[Rich]

You know, Denzel Washington, Camilla.

[Covino]

We called her Camilla Cabello for a long time until she was like, nah, it's Cabello.

[Rich]

The Denzel thing was recent. Didn't we just see that on like, it was trending on, like, social media.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich]

Denzel.

[Covino]

Denzel Washington.

[Rich]

Denzel's better.

[Covino]

Yeah, but he said his mom called him Denzel.

[Rich]

Denzel.

[Covino]

So in non relation related observations, non football related observations, I should say is I saw Wicked for Good over the weekend with family. Wicked for Good, the sequel for Wicked. It was wicked. Like barely good. Wicked. Okay. I thought it was great and I'm a fan. For the record, I've seen the play. I like wizard of Oz. It was just.

[Rich]

Yeah, maybe you're in a bad mood. I thought it was great.

[Covino]

Nah, I mean, I don't know how much of a better moon I could have been. It was Thanksgiving weekend. My entire family, he was just I. So it was just I. In basketball news, can anyone make Skechers Now? Look, I'm not the guy dumping on Skechers. I think they're a great brand. They serve a purpose, they're comfortable. I used to rock them back in the day, but they've got a stigma now, right? Joel Embiid debuted his Skecher sneaker over the weekend. And it's kind of cool. But I'm wondering, can he be the guy to change the stigma, to make him cool again?

[Guest or caller]

Is it the first slip on NBA tennis shoe?

[Covino]

Everything goes in cycles though, right? Just thinks that one person, Snoop Dogg, put a line out there that people say is great for Skechers. But was he the guy? I don't know.

[Rich]

Did you buy him, though? Come on.

[Covino]

Could someone in the NBA make them cool? That made me say, hmm.

[Rich]

I think it takes a. I think someone told us once, I think you actually asked someone that was a marketer for a car company. Sometimes it could really just take a generation to change your perception of a brand. Like younger people, people like Hyundai, Kia. There's car brands that your generation might be like trash cars. Younger kids might be like, oh, Kia halftime show, the NBA. Or they might think it's a cooler brand than you think.

[Covino]

Joel MB Debuts his first signature shoe with Skechers. Nice.

[Dan Byers]

I don't know.

[Covino]

They're kind of cool. They are cool.

[Rich]

You know, you could show me all day, but I can't tell you any dude that that would. I know that would rock Skechers on purpose.

[Covino]

In the early 2000s, I was rocking them and then all of a sudden, sudden, like they became affiliated with like nurses and cooks and like little kids with light up shoes or something. Guys, comfort guys, they got associated with.

[Rich]

Comfort guys rock Jordans or dunks. And then hipster younger people, new balances, sort of back and again.

[Covino]

That's here in this country, worldwide. They're like number two after Nike.

[Rich]

I'm just saying, like, you know, then that. That what we used to call dad shoe. Like that New balance, like mow the lawn. The all white. That's New balance, where you barbecue and mow the lawn. That's popular again with young dudes. I. I just can't see anyone rocking Skechers.

[Covino]

And this made me go, hmm. Chinwell Pacquiao was a guest on our bonus show over. Promised you could watch it on Covino and Rich. Fsr. That's Manny's son. He made his debut over the weekend. I saw the highlights with the draw, though. Brandon Lally got the draw because he fought a really tough opponent for his debut fight. People are saying that's a mistake. They should have gave him a tomato can. And then, of course, you got Jake Paul AJ, 18 days from now because it's the first of the month. But as of today, Tia Fimo versus Shakur Stevenson, January 31st for the WBA WBO Super Lightweight. So that makes me go.

[Rich]

All right, well, more of your observations from Week 13 of the NFL. Plus, we're gonna give away a prize this hour. We're gonna play our favorite game, last one standing. Plus we're gonna talk about awkward fights at work or in the clubhouse or locker room. All coming up CNR on F this.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

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[Covino]

There, the last one.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.

[Covino]

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[Rich]

Catch the red eye or take the.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

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[Rich]

Celebrate a win with the toast at the gate or unwind at the lounge.

[Covino]

Big props to this team.

[Rich]

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[Dan Byers]

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[Rich]

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[Rich]

Janice Torres here and I'm Austin Hankwitz. We host the podcast Mind the Small.

[Covino]

Business Success Stories produced by Ruby Studio.

[Rich]

In partnership with Intuit QuickBooks.

[Jenna Kim Jones]

We're back for season four to talk to some incredible small business owners.

[Rich]

The big thing about working at tech is that it's ever evolving, ever changing.

[Dan Byers]

Everyone's a rookie.

[Rich]

That's how fast the industry is changing.

[Covino]

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[Rich]

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[Covino]

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