C&R - 'Make You Go Hmm...Divisional Round!

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – “C&R - Make You Go Hmm…Divisional Round!”

Date: January 20, 2026
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts & Dan Patrick Podcast Network

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Episode Overview

This episode of Covino & Rich (“C&R”), filling in on The Dan Patrick Show, unpacks the drama from the NFL divisional playoff weekend. The hosts dish out takes on blockbuster coaching moves, wild playoff finishes, and gut-wrenching injuries—all through their trademark blend of sports insight and laid-back banter. If you’ve missed the weekend’s sports chaos or just want a deeper dive on the buzzy moments, this episode’s for you.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Divisional Round Reactions — “Things That Make You Go Hmm…”

00:41 – 04:37

• Rich laments: “In the history of watching football, I don’t think I’ve ever come away from a game feeling so blah and let down. And I’m not even talking about the Niner Seahawks game.” (04:49)
• The guys agree most games were lackluster except for clear blowouts and a couple standout performances. The “ass sandwich” metaphor pops up to express disappointment in the overall schedule, especially in the middle games.
• The Niners’ loss gets a moment of sympathy: “There was nothing your team could do…except for the fact that they can’t stay healthy.” (04:03)

2. Bills’ Heartbreak & McDermott’s Firing

05:56 – 12:31

• Dan Byer reports breaking news: “Sean McDermott was fired as the Bills head coach.” (05:58)
• The crew debates the standards for NFL head coaches and the emotional range for Bills fans after another early exit.
• “He did pretty damn well. But I get it. Couldn’t get over that hump. So you gotta do something to show the fans you care. Right? And you can’t do anything about Josh Allen, so you fire the coach.” – Covino (11:10)
• Extended discussion on the critical no-catch call for Buffalo (James Cook), with several hosts insisting, “I thought it was a catch… Everybody thought it was a catch. How was it not a catch in the moment?” (13:00 – 13:05)
• Danny G points out the importance of player body language and initial officiating: “Half the battle is having to overturn.” (14:47)

3. Coach Carousel & Dolphins’ Surprising Hire

05:56 – 11:14

• The Dolphins name Jeff Hafley (Packers Defensive Coordinator) as their new head coach.
• Reactions range from “not a sexy hire” to “I actually root for stories like this…It’s not always about the headline. It’s about merit.” – Covino (07:20)
• Dan Byer provides background: “He is a well-respected name within the circles, but just not a name that rises to the level of household name or notoriety.” (09:32)

4. Denver Broncos’ Quarterback Woes: Bo Nix Injury & The Nick Foles Effect

16:07 – 22:33

• Bo Nix breaks his ankle late in the game, sparking disbelief. “In the world of AI and Sora and fake news, you really didn’t know what to believe…is this a hoax or not?” – Covino (24:39)
• Discussion about how backup QB Jarrett Stidham must now lead the Broncos, evoking comparisons to Nick Foles (Eagles) and Jeff Hostetler (Giants): “If Stiddy leads them all the way, what does it say? It says that, well, they have a great system, they’re coached really well…Yeah, they won without their star.” – Covino (17:59)
• Rich speculates on Bo Nix’s legacy: “If Denver wins without Bo Nix, there will be that underlying, like…did we ever need him?” (19:47)
• Dan Byer notes, “For 60 minutes, you just need to figure out how you can beat the Patriots. It’s a one-game mission.” (23:24)
• Everyone agrees—now the backup QB underdog storyline is actually compelling TV: “We need to shift it. This might actually be a cool thing for us as fans to watch and to root for.” – Covino (25:53)

5. Shanahan, Injuries, & the 49ers’ “Strange Luck”

30:02 – 34:25

• Fans (and some players) joke about a conspiracy that the 49ers’ practice facility proximity to an electrical substation causes injuries. Rich: “Listen, it could be total BS…but I think in today’s day and age…the 49ers need to legit put out a statement.” (31:24)
• Dan Byer reminds everyone the 49ers have practiced there for decades, but injuries to older players and a thin WR corps pose challenges: “The 49ers are an older team...this stuff happens to players who are older.” (33:00)
• The hosts debate whether lighter practices under Shanahan could be part of the problem.

6. Rams, Stafford’s Look, and the Emergence of Caleb Williams

34:25 – 36:01 & 39:12 – 42:54

• Covino and Rich marvel at Stafford’s “gleaming white teeth” and “gray swirls” in his beard—a bit of classic C&R banter.
• More importantly, they gush over rookie Caleb Williams’ miraculous 4th down TD to Cole Kmet for the Bears. “You can’t teach that type of magic…that was our Tyra play of the day.” – Covino (39:41)
• Discussion about the Bears’ decision not to go for 2, echoing the coaching risk/reward narrative.

7. Listener Calls & Rapid-Fire Observations

27:49 – 43:02

• Several listeners chime in with their own “things that made them go hmm,” including skepticism over the 49ers’ injury luck, more praise for Caleb Williams, and speculation on Denver’s future.
• Rich: “They got the Endy Chavez treatment. One of the greatest catches you ever see…The only problem was the Mets ended up losing the game…That’s what happened with the Bears.” (42:54)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Bills’ heartbreak:
  “I thought it was a catch…You thought it was a catch...Everybody thought it was a catch. How was it not a catch in the moment?”
  — Covino (13:00)

• On the coaching carousel:
  “Are you looking for the headline or are you looking to actually win—for substance, for merit?”
  — Covino (07:20)

• On underdogs & backup QBs:
  “This could be something to rally around. And it’s an underdog story. The backup quarterback gets a chance to show that he was great all along.”
  — Covino (25:52)

• On 49ers’ injury conspiracies:
  “There’s been a viral story…it hasn’t hit the mainstream to my knowledge…I see it all over social media.”
  — Covino (30:36)

• On the Rams-Bears finish:
  “He’s running back 50 yards…throws it perfectly in the end zone…If you hadn’t seen it, you would not believe it.”
  — Kevin Harlan (as replayed by hosts, 40:28)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Divisional Round Overview & “Ass Sandwich” Games: 01:11 – 05:02
• Bills’ Playoff Heartbreak, McDermott Firing: 05:56 – 13:00
• Dolphins Hire Jeff Hafley / Coaching Carousel Tee-Up: 06:24 – 11:14
• Controversial "No-Catch" & Game-Swinging Calls: 13:00 – 15:36
• Broncos QB Injury, Backup Comparison History: 16:07 – 22:33
• Listener Calls, 49ers Injury Theories: 27:49 – 34:25
• Miraculous Bears Play/Caleb Williams Chat: 39:12 – 42:54

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Overall Tone & Style

Conversational, irreverent, and full of classic sports radio camaraderie. The hosts don’t hold back their fandom (“Sorry about your 49ers!”) or their willingness to poke fun at each other—and at the NFL universe’s most bizarre quirks. Pop culture references and caller contributions keep the episode lively.

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Summary

Whether you’re a Bills fan cringing from Sunday, a Broncos supporter learning to love Jarrett Stidham, or just a fan of NFL chaos, this episode offers sharp analysis and plenty of laughs. The crew questions headline-hunting hirings, laments heartbreaking near-misses, and finds new storylines to root for—especially the rise of unlikely heroes and the shock twists of playoff football.

If you missed a wild weekend or want some fresh perspective on NFL drama, this episode of Covino & Rich (The Dan Patrick Show) delivers.

Transcript

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[Covino]

Hey, thanks for listening to the Covino Enrich podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday from 5 to 7 Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.

[Rich]

Find your local station for Kavito and [e-mail] or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. Hey, all right.

[Covino]

Hope all your teams won this weekend. Hope you enjoyed the divisional round. Hope you had a Broncos, Seahawks, Pats, Rams sort of weekend.

[Rich]

I mean this weekend's football games were an ass sandwich.

[Covino]

Yeah, think about it. What'd you say about ass sandwiches?

[Rich]

First game, last game, Yummy, yummy.

[Covino]

Sounds good. I think I'll have one middle games ass.

[Rich]

Hey, unless you're a Seahawks fan or unless you're a Patriots fan, I guess, right?

[Covino]

Not a bills, 49ers, Texans, bears, heartbreaker sort of weekend. Happy Martin Luther King Day. We're going to turn your MLK day into a sweet MLK night.

[Rich]

Please. You never met Dr. Martin Luther King.

[Covino]

I did meet Dr. Martin Luther King. I'm Kavino. That is rich. And we be rocking out. Let's go another week. Yeah, football.

[Rich]

You're not having a I love it Sean McDermott type of morning, but we're.

[Covino]

Going to get to that.

[Rich]

We're going to get to everything that happens that's weak sauce on your weekend.

[Covino]

Sauce with that ass sandwich. We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studio. If you miss any of today's show, any show ever, you want to catch the podcast, search Covino and Rich wherever you get your podcast. And our best of the week is there. Best of the day is there. Danny G. Always hard at work posting our podcast. Rate it 5 stars. Because anything less is uncivilized. But you know what? It's all about the YouTube channel. Right now. We're streaming live, so check us out. Live now or later. Like your favorite candy back in the 80s, rich. Now or later.

[Rich]

I always thought it was like a bootleg Starburst.

[Covino]

Now and laters are the best for removing your cavities.

[Rich]

So.

[Covino]

YouTube.com covinoenrich FSR we're streaming live. The chat is popping already. K. Rain and Joey, Elbows and Wes and Matt already there talking smack. And we're going to give away prizes today. Last one standing, my three least favorite words. It's a very intense game, but first and first, mostly welcome. Rich Davis. Sorry about your 49ers. We're gonna talk about that. Danny G Super producing at 877.99 on Fox. We got Iowa SAM. That's a loud shirt you're wearing right now. I don't have my glasses on, but it looks very colorful. It's from Spain.

[Dan Byer]

It's my second watermelon shirt.

[Covino]

Espana. That's Iowa, Sam. You gotta. You know what? In Spain, if you didn't want to see our stupid faces, you have to tune in just to see Sam's shirt. He wore it for a reason. So please watch in public. Covino Enrich fsr. He made that choice for you. Fox Sports Radio Nation. Covino and Rich fsr Spotty's on the videos. Dan Beyer, the belated birthday boy is here.

[Rich]

The 12th man himself.

[Covino]

Yes. Congrats to his Seahawks. I was thinking about you, Dan Byer. I want you to know I was so sick over the weekend, I didn't even go to Riches for the big watch party.

[Dan Byer]

Man, that's a. That's quite the sickness. Yeah.

[Covino]

Yeah. I'm not really down with the sickness.

[Dan Byer]

I like when I said to Rich, I go, yeah, man, I didn't hear from you on Saturday. Cavino completely covered his bases. You notice that, Rich? He's like, hey, man, I was sick.

[Covino]

Hey, man, I was sick. I didn't call any. I didn't call my parents this weekend. All right?

[Dan Byer]

Come clean. I'm covered.

[Covino]

DB I did think of you. And, man, Rich, what are you going to do when your team is just hurt and. And. And you have really no team or star players left. There was nothing your team could do, nothing to really feel bad about, except for the fact that they can't stay healthy. You had Purdy, you know, run around like a. Like a. Like a cartoon almost. He didn't know what to do. With the ball. Like, what's that guy going to do? So a tough loss, some tough injuries for your 49ers. Big win for the Seahawks. They might just go all the way. And that leads us to something we do every Monday.

[Rich]

Oh, things that make you go.

[Dan Byer]

Baby.

[Covino]

Things that make you go Things that make you go.

[Rich]

All right, shall I start?

[Covino]

Mm.

[Rich]

I. In the history of watching football, I don't think I've ever come away from a game feeling so blah and let down. And I'm not even talking about the Niner Seahawks game.

[Covino]

Right. That game was just. That was a clobbering the.

[Rich]

The Bills Broncos game. I think for the most part, unless you're a Denver fan, it was the Josh Allen feel good narrative that I guess like you, if your team wasn't in it, that was the number one narrative.

[Covino]

Like this was his chance. Yeah. This was the. All roads led to Josh Allen getting his way and having his year. All his competition or all teams and players that we think of as his competition were out. This is Josh Allen's year to do it. But hold up.

[Rich]

And for the record, I thought it was a catch.

[Covino]

Yeah, same.

[Rich]

I thought it was a catch. And we're going to get to your thoughts on Buffalo and then the post game letdown that think of the highs and lows of a Bronco fan. But first, let's go to Dan Byer. Some breaking NFL news.

[Covino]

Breaking news from Fox Sports, guys.

[Dan Byer]

Earlier Today in the AFC East, Sean McDermott was fired as the Bills head coach. Staying in the division, the Dolphins, multiple reports say will hire packers defensive coordinator Jeff Halfley to be their new head coach. He'd be brought in by new GM John Eric Sullivan, who came from Green Bay. This is actually kind of thought to be a done deal maybe a few days ago, but Halfley went on a couple of more interview. Dolphins had more interviews, but Jeff Halfley is going to be the new head coach of the Miami Dolphins.

[Rich]

You know what? It's. It's like the world of anything really. Music, acting, college football. Until someone's a name. And that's a really deep statement. Camino. Until you're a name, you're a nobody. And you hear a name like that, that unless you really know it's not true.

[Covino]

Gary Vaynerchuk says you're a somebody.

[Rich]

I know he does say that.

[Covino]

As long as you know it, that's all that matters. I'm just saying everyone else might not know when you.

[Rich]

I'm just saying when you're a fan of a team, you Want your team to hire someone that's a household name.

[Covino]

Jeff Halfley, bro. And I'm sure I've always said, ooh, I got a halfy like Jeff Halfley. I've always said that.

[Rich]

At least you'll have that reference moving forward.

[Covino]

He's not new to me. I've always used him as a reference.

[Rich]

I'm saying it's a. It's a guy that. It's not the sexy hire a fan likes, right? Like a fan always wants the Harbaugh or the top.

[Covino]

I actually hear stuff like this. I get excited, and that's why I said what I said. I get excited because it's not always about the headline. I hate that. It's about the merit. It's about, did you earn it? Even in our industry, what do they do? Not at Fox Sports, which I love about them. It's so easy to hire a name, hire someone that deserves it. What are you looking for? Are you looking for the headline or are you looking to actually win for substance, for merit?

[Rich]

Seems like. It seems like when the story does give you a Halfley.

[Covino]

No, because it does give me a halfy like Jeff Halfley. Because, for example, I'm just trying to give you real life examples, right, guys, a lot of times companies hire big names for the press release. Not necessarily because that person deserved it. It's their riding on the fame. So if Fox Sports Radio hires a show like Covino and Rich, you're like, wow, these guys must be decent. There must be more. Who the hell are they? But if they go out there and hire Aaron Rodgers because he's available to do mornings, they're doing it solely for the headline, solely for the name, solely for the press release. So if the Dolphins make this move and you're like Jeff Halfley, you have to say to yourself, wow, he must really have earned it or deserve it, because it's not a sexy hire. It's not a sexy name. So I actually root for stories like this. So congrats.

[Danny G]

Yeah, he was a hot candidate, as the Steelers were just interested in him.

[Covino]

Might be a hot candidate. But Rich is right. He's not like a household name. But guess what? Now he is.

[Rich]

He's got a flat type, like the gym teacher on Beavis and butthead.

[Covino]

He's like Mr. Buzzcut. But you know what? Now he is.

[Rich]

That's it.

[Covino]

That's all you need to know. He has the merit and the substance to be that. And they're seeing through that. And I love that. So props. Big news already.

[Dan Byer]

You Know, he was an interesting guy as well. Like, I remember him, obviously, because he was the defensive coordinator at Ohio State for a couple of years, but he went and took the Boston College head coaching job, then left there to be the packers defensive coordinator. So it wasn't like a head coaching job moving on to another big college job or even an NFL job. He went and took the job and to be the defensive coordinator with the Packers. They were great defense up until Micah Parsons injury. But, yeah, he is a well, well respected name within the circles, but just not a name that rises to the.

[Covino]

Level of household name or notoriety.

[Rich]

Interestingly enough, if you're a Dolphins fan, I'm curious to hear from Dolphins fans. You go from strictly an offensive guy like Mike McDaniel to now it's like, all right, let's go defense.

[Dan Byer]

Yeah, it's. It's. What's also interesting, guys, is we thought that the Dolphins fired Mike McDaniel to get John Harbaugh, right? Like, that was the timing of it. McDaniel was going to be involved in a GM search. Then Harbaugh gets fired, and all of a sudden the Dolphins are like, okay, well, now McDaniel's fired. So like we thought, all right, that's why the Dolphins made the move. So not only do they not get John Harbaugh to replace Mike McDaniel, they go other side of the football with the GM hired from the same organization. So you're just kind of wondering on what the direction is. Maybe this is the direction that they wanted, but they fired their gm, Chris Greer, during the middle of the season, and there was some thought that maybe John Harbaugh would be the guy because of the timing of everything, but that's not the case.

[Rich]

The coaching carousel is really funny when you think about it in terms of, like, dating, right? Like, your girlfriend was someone else's girlfriend wants it. Your wife was someone's girlfriend, and it didn't work out like there was some guy out there or she was, yeah, this. This sucks. But to you, it works out perfectly.

[Covino]

Your wife could have had the sexy headline and she chose you.

[Rich]

It's true, it's likely she could have had sexier headlines than me, but she wants sexier headlines.

[Covino]

But you, because you earned it and deserve it. And if you just joined us, breaking news from Dan Beyer. Dolphins are hiring former packers defensive coordinator Jeff Halfley as their head coach. And again, not to downplay or take away his. His merit, his resume, or what he's accomplished, but. But probably not a household name for most people.

[Rich]

But, you know, some.

[Covino]

It does like a Harbaugh. As Dan Beyer mentioned before, it does.

[Rich]

Go to the work and relationship analogy of like, someone else's trash, could be your treasure type of thing.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich]

Because you could say, like, Sean McDermott now out of a gig, if he couldn't take Josh Allen. And, you know, you could say that if he couldn't. If he couldn't get there with Josh Allen, who's he going to get there with?

[Covino]

And vice versa. I look at that as a scapegoat story. I really do.

[Rich]

He was all pumped up, too.

[Covino]

Yeah. He was defending his team, which I.

[Rich]

Thought was a catch, too.

[Covino]

It was a catch.

[Rich]

If that's a catch and Buffalo moves.

[Covino]

On that James Cook play, that wasn't a catch and he was down, how could it have been any other way? So I respect that he defended it. And, yeah, he's fired. As you guys know, Sean McDermott, nine seasons with the team, fourth time in five seasons, exited in the divisional round, had a record of 98 and 50, did pretty damn well. But I get it. Couldn't get over that hump. So you got to do something to show the fans that you care. Right. And you can't do anything about Josh Allen, so you fire the coach. So McDermott's out.

[Rich]

So answer this question.

[Covino]

I started by saying it's the coaching carousel of 2025.

[Rich]

Has there been a game that's left you more deflated than that Buffalo Bills Denver Broncos game?

[Covino]

Because it was the weakest, by the way, for the record 8. Nate McDermott, speaking of 8 and 8 in the postseason with the Bills.

[Rich]

So the Bills loose. You see sad Josh Allen.

[Covino]

You see Josh Allen.

[Rich]

I thought it was. I thought it was a catch. You thought it was a catch? I guess it wasn't a catch, dude.

[Covino]

Everybody thought it was a catch. How was it was a catch in the moment?

[Danny G]

I did. Yeah.

[Covino]

Afterward, you don't.

[Danny G]

Seriously, I. I guess I can see how it's argued in both directions after watching the slow mo of it, but in the moment, I thought, okay, that's a catch. Because usually it's like baseball. Ty goes to the runner. Our whole adult lives watching football, even as kids, we were taught that if, you know, the ball gets pulled away like that, after it looks like the player came down with a knee.

[Covino]

Yeah. That.

[Danny G]

It's the. It goes to the receiver. Tie goes to the receiver.

[Covino]

So it seemed like we. So many contradicting and conflicting calls in other games that made you say, this weekend.

[Rich]

You know what sucks is that because it's professional sports. I know this sounds ridiculous. You can't do a do over. There are times where you're like, oh, it's so close. Can we just do it over?

[Covino]

You know what?

[Rich]

They do have to make a call. And the call had to be made. And by giving that call to the Broncos, they rushed you essentially ended the bill season. No doubt that puts him in field goal range. We could be talking about. Josh Allen's miracle run goes on, and next week he's playing in New England against, you know, division rival and Vrabel and Drake May. The storyline was ripped away in that one moment. That one moment changed everything.

[Covino]

I'm not saying that body language matters in the NFL like it does in the NBA, because in the NBA, you could really sell something. Don't you feel like Cook's body language made it appear like it was an interception? Like he did get it because he laid there in almost a defeated way. You're saying he should, instead of celebrating like, I got that cat.

[Rich]

If he popped up and went, yes, again, he.

[Covino]

He almost looks like, oh, man. Like, I can't believe what happened. It might have been supposed to be.

[Danny G]

Called differently on the field. And we know that's half the battle.

[Rich]

Half the battle is having to overturn.

[Covino]

Because I even like, you know, when I saw the body language, I'm like, he lost the ball as opposed to, no, I caught it and I was down and play it off. I feel like that added a lot to the call and the momentum shift with the. With the game.

[Rich]

Now the truth will be told in instant replay, but if it's so close, Danny's right. The initial call, watch it again, is the most important because that's what has to be overturned. If you pop up in that moment and you go like, first and celebrate.

[Covino]

As opposed to looking defeated in that moment, I think maybe you get. Maybe you get a different call, because to me, that was a catch.

[Rich]

Think before instant replay, the art of selling the call. The catch in baseball, you know, phantom tag. Selling a play was part of the game. So maybe. Maybe Cooks didn't sell it enough.

[Danny G]

LeBron was watching the game, shaking his head like, man, Cooks did that all wrong.

[Covino]

Seriously.

[Rich]

But that. But, you know, even Peyton Manning after the game said he thought it was a hoax. Because all of a sudden, I said, within. Within minutes, you go from man, Buffalo. Bummer. All right, Denver. You know what? Peyton and Bo Nix as teams for real. I will have a battle next week, I suppose. Then you hear Bo Nicks ankle broken. And by the Way Sean Payton said it so nonchalantly in my mind, I.

[Covino]

Think as a leader, you don't want to show any panic, and you want to prove that we're good and he's ready and just lead with that level of confidence. I think that's really why. What's he going to do? Like, oh, man, this is the worst news for us. He can't be behave that way. He has to show confidence in his team and confidence to the fans. Like, no, we still got this. He's the guy. We have a system. But if it does pan out or Stitty comes through, what does that say about Bo Nix's legacy moving forward?

[Rich]

Oh, I said this to Camino earlier.

[Covino]

It doesn't help it.

[Rich]

Let me give you. Let me give you two cases of this, and let's go around the room, play a little. What do you think?

[Covino]

But not to backtrack. Rich, you're absolutely right. The second you hear that news, you're.

[Rich]

Like, oh, even weaker now. You know, my brother's a Bronco.

[Covino]

There's no reason for the Bills to have won that game.

[Rich]

My brother likes the Broncos, and my dad was saying that, hey, you know what your brother said? If he would have known this would happen, he would have been like, give the game to Buffalo.

[Covino]

Seriously.

[Rich]

So. All right, I remember Carson Wentz was all the rage. He was on an MVP type of season for the Philadelphia Eagles. He gets hurt. Nick Foles wins a Super Bowl.

[Covino]

Carson Wentz and gains a sweet reputation and nickname.

[Rich]

Oh, Big Nick.

[Covino]

Everybody knows can't do it.

[Rich]

So Big Nick wins the Super Bowl. Yeah. Big Years Nick.

[Covino]

Big Year's Nick.

[Rich]

Big Year's Nick wins the Super Bowl. And then all of a sudden, Carson Wentz. Before the career goes, you know, astray, there was a sense of, well, we want a Super bowl with. Without this guy. He was the guy. But now we won without him. So it was a sense of Philadelphia Eagles, super bowl champions, and our quarterbacks like the guy that wasn't in it.

[Covino]

How could you be the star of the team when your backup is who led you to a Super Bowl? It's kind of tough living in that shadow. You're never the same guy. So if Stitty leads them all the way, what does it say? It says that, well, they have a great system, they're coached really well, they have a great team, great defense, and, yeah, they won without their star. When I say we don't need this guy, and it sucks for Knicks. It's a really tough place. Pun intended.

[Rich]

Phil Sims do you, do you think Phil Sims, oh, two time super bowl champ, or do you think Phil Sims, oh, he won against the Broncos in the 80s and you're like, I guess he did technically have a second one. Remember Hostetler came in at the end of the year and that team ended up winning. Do you look at Phil Sims and say, two time super bowl champion, Danny, or one time.

[Danny G]

That's a tough one.

[Covino]

You know, it doesn't make it true, but it's how it's perceived, right?

[Rich]

Well, yeah, on paper and reality, two different things. Phil Sims is a one time super bowl champion. In my eyes. He didn't beat the Buffalo Bills. Jeff Hostetler's Giants won that game.

[Danny G]

But you could make an argument that Bo Nix took Denver as far as he took them this season. And Kove, I understand what you're saying about how the thought could be, well, maybe they don't need them, but they're going to need them in the Super Bowl. Yeah. Home playoff game, a home championship game. They could maybe win off the power of their defense with a backup quarterback.

[Dan Byer]

In the super bowl, though.

[Covino]

Yeah, but we saw Falls do it.

[Rich]

I'm telling you.

[Danny G]

I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm just saying it's not impossible.

[Rich]

And this is the most cool opportunity ever for Stidham. He seems like a, like a cool, handsome dude. I saw a picture of him and his girlfriend and they're like, yeah, let's. He's taken on this opportunity.

[Covino]

I do like the underdog backup storyline. I'm not mad at it by any means. I wish him all the best. But it's sort of tough and it does make you feel worse about the Bills blowing their chances this way.

[Rich]

You could say, you could say richest is the stupidest thing you've ever said on Fox. And it's possible. But I think there's a part of the subconscious of Bo Nix that is like, I, this can't happen because if, if Denver wins without Bo Nix, there will be that underlying, like as Drake.

[Covino]

May say, do we ever need him? He's a good Christian man. He's not going to think that way.

[Rich]

What's up, db?

[Dan Byer]

I think there's the other side of the coin. Like, in a weird way, I think that Sean Payton loves this. Imagine what this does for Sean Payton's reputation if he loses his quarterback, you know, prior to the AFC Championship game.

[Covino]

I agree. I think that's why we saw that confidence. He's so confident that, like, it's him in the system and Their coaching that could take him, that we're good with City, he's ready to go.

[Danny G]

Db, did you notice how Peyton even joked like oh if I knew about these ankle injuries, you know, we wouldn't have drafted Bo Nicks.

[Dan Byer]

Sure.

[Danny G]

And I was like that's a weird time to joke.

[Dan Byer]

There was, there was also Peyton having to do two press conferences because Knicks wasn't going to come out because of the injury. But if we look back to last the 2024 off season when they were in training camp, Stidham was thought to be the leader in the clubhouse for that job. And then because Zach Wilson was also in that quarterback room but Stidham was thought to be the leader then it ended up you heard rumblings it's going to be bonix. Bonix. So I don't think that there is underprepared. The one thing I will say with Wentz, the only difference is at least the Eagles had a ramp up period for foals to get acclimated. This is just trying to figure out how for 60 minutes you could beat the New England Patriots.

[Rich]

Settler had two regular season weeks before the Post Falls had even a longer run.

[Dan Byer]

Yeah, I think went Scott hurt like week 12 or 13 or something like that.

[Rich]

I just there there's always going to be similarities and I look at those two previous examples of well Phil Sims really didn't win too. And yo Carson Wentz on paper super bowl champion but that's Nick Foles. And if you're a Denver Broncos fan and Stidham comes in there and you somehow win, you need to win two games. That's the crazy part. Right. You need to beat New England and.

[Covino]

Then and then two wins away from.

[Rich]

Being a one of the game in a few weeks from now.

[Danny G]

And but as a starter in the NFL, Stidham's 1 in 3.

[Covino]

Right?

[Rich]

Right. You know what?

[Danny G]

And I got a eyeful of Stidham when he was playing for the Raiders not too long ago.

[Rich]

But Danny, he's not.

[Danny G]

He's not horrible but he's just not a great quarterback either.

[Rich]

Let's just say. Right. Let's just say he does it. Bo Nix becomes so irrelevant to a Denver Broncos fan. I promise you unfortunately you've seen it happen in the past. I lived in New York, went Hostetler won with the Giants. No one cared about Phil Sims the same way. And Carson Wentz the next year. Everyone's going big.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich]

Is it Lipsnick?

[Covino]

Right. Big lips, big years. Nick.

[Rich]

Everyone was cheering for Nick Foles and he was A backup.

[Covino]

And he became this legend like this, this hero Philly special. Wentz was getting MVP chance before that happened. So they loved Wentz. They loved Wentz leading into that. And then he became like a second thought leftovers after that.

[Danny G]

Does it make you feel any different though that the Patriots defense is what you could say they are riding on right now. And Drake, man, that offense looks slightly shaky.

[Covino]

Yeah, they look vulnerable for sure they did.

[Rich]

I'm just saying because Denver's defense is good. Nothing, nothing is impossible. Right. Because if Denver could keep you in every game, what Stidham would have to do is not as drastic. Like they're like Caleb Williams, Brock Purdy. There are teams whose defenses were not great. And you knew you had to put up points to win, right? Like you knew you had to do something special to win. I don't know if you need to do something that special in Denver to win. If it's a defensive battle, Denver's got.

[Dan Byer]

One of the best, if not the best offensive line in the national football league. 40% of the lines they in first team all pro defensively. We know how much they get after it. That's why I think the Peyton thing is just so intriguing of how do you, how do you win this 60 minute battle? Because that's really all that it is. It's not. It's not a long, it's not a big picture sort of thing. It's how do you get it done?

[Rich]

On Sunday I heard Dan Patrick on the network talking about it how we use the word game manager. Like it's all negative. But at this stage of the game, in the playoffs, you just need to find a way to win in 60 minutes. Managing the. That's what you're doing. You're managing how do I win this game? And Sean Payton. Sean Payton could. If the score is 00 after the first quarter, he might be like, yes, exactly what I wanted. Like just no one moved the ball. It just clock, kill the clock and get, you know, get a couple a drive going. Like it's not a problem.

[Covino]

Rich, to wrap up this thought about Bo Nicks and how unfortunate that was and how it just added to the deflating feeling of the Bills losing that one because it was a heartbreaker. I don't know if you saw how many people thought that the Bo Nick story was a hoax.

[Rich]

Manning, like I said.

[Covino]

Yeah. But it was all over. So many fans like did it like wives were filming their husbands finding out. I don't know if you've seen.

[Rich]

That's really kind yeah.

[Covino]

But no, in the world. In the world of AI and Sora and fake news, you really didn't know what to believe. You're like, wait, is that true? Didn't know.

[Rich]

Didn't Peyton Manning reach out to Broncos front office saying, like, yo, is this a hoax or not?

[Covino]

So it's a shame that we live in a world where we don't even know what to believe. But apparently it happened on the second to last play. And in retrospect, you saw him hobbling off the field, wincing and grimacing, as they say.

[Rich]

And to say that getting injured at an inopportune. Getting injured at an inopportune time and giving someone else a chance to be a hero. If you tell me that couldn't happen, why don't you talk to a guy named Drew Bledsoe and see how he feels about. But you know what, Rich, about going down.

[Covino]

We'll take your phone calls next, but I think we need to shift our mindset on that story. It's really a cool story. Is it unfortunate? It is. It's terrible because we've seen what happened to Wentz's career and. And Phil Sims and his reputation after that. Right. This is really, really cool. Or a cool opportunity for Stidham and the rest of the team. This could be something to rally around. And it's an underdog story. The backup quarterback gets a chance to show that he was great all along.

[Rich]

You might have a storyline to root for now.

[Covino]

Exactly. And I know there's a lot of disappointed feelings about that, but we need to shift it. As you know, this might be actually a cool thing for us as fans to watch and to root for.

[Rich]

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[Rich]

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[Covino]

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[Rich]

I checked him out earlier.

[Covino]

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[Rich]

Yeah. Say hi to Travis in Los Angeles. Hi, Travis.

[Covino]

Hey, Travis.

[Kevin Harlan]

So, Rich, now that your team's out, you're available seven days a week for flag football, right?

[Rich]

Yes, I am available every day.

[Covino]

You know, speaking of, Is that all you had to say with all the injuries?

[Danny G]

I think so.

[Covino]

He did a drive by and. Yeah, me. Me.

[Rich]

Does he want me to play flag football? My daughter plays flag football.

[Covino]

With all the injuries with your team? I know experts have debunked the conspiracy and debunked the rumors, and if you don't know what we're talking about, their practice facility, the 49ers practice facility in Santa Clara, is right next to this electrical substation. And they're saying that the frequencies there weaken the tendons, like the electromagnetic fields weaken the tendons and affect the muscles causing all these injuries. I know it's been debunked, but by whom?

[Rich]

Who went there? Mythbusters. Who went there? I don't know anyone that debunked this.

[Covino]

Read it. I don't think anybody. There has been a viral story. It hasn't hit the mainstream to my knowledge. I see it all over social media.

[Danny G]

It's a real. That's all over Instagram.

[Covino]

Test the electromagnetic field, and they say it's. It's a lot stronger in that area, and it's not good for the muscles. You know, when you look at how injured they were, even during the game this weekend, McCaffrey in his shoulder, you see him grimacing. You see how much pain he was in. You're like, oh, my God. Is there something like, if it's not that, then what is it? Because Richard was. No way your team had any chance.

[Rich]

Well, I don't know if it was Kendrick Bourne or it wasn't Jennings, a 49ers receiver in a post game. It makes me say referenced it as, like, a joke, though. Like, reference. Oh, the power facility next to the.

[Covino]

What deals with the injuries, man.

[Rich]

Listen, it could be total bs. You could send the Mythbusters or whoever they are, but I think in today's day and age of AI and fake news and no one knowing what's true. And is it Sora? Is it a real video? I do think that the 49ers need to legit put out a statement like, all this is nonsense because there could be a free agent or draft picker, someone that's like, yeah, I'm not sure if I want to be.

[Covino]

Doctors and experts have debunked it as baseless, stating there's no scientific evidence that it harms players. Though the team's injuries are real and clearly impacted the team this year. So that's who Rich. But to me, I'm like, man, I almost want that as an answer because it would make more sense.

[Rich]

I mean, you just read something you googled. I don't know if it's true. What's up, Dan Buyer?

[Dan Byer]

The one thing that I would say in defense of the 49ers is they've practiced in this area for this. For decades. I've heard that stadium was built right next to their practice facility. So it's not like this is just a previous couple of seasons. They've been there for a long, long time.

[Covino]

But it only makes me say, hmm. When you look at the shell of a team they were playing with over the weekend, so. And they did their best, man, you can't blame Purdy. You can't blame McCaffrey.

[Rich]

I heard someone else blaming Kyle Shanahan, saying that they practice. They practice at a. Not like a less full contact, like, interesting. Shanahan's practices are lighter than almost every head coach. So people get in the game and full force. Yeah. Like, they've, like, more. Shanahan's practices are more mechanical than.

[Dan Byer]

Yeah. And that could. That could be a reason why I will say this just to make a bigger picture. I'm curious on your thoughts. Like, there are guys that got injured that I'm just like, yeah, they get injured. Like Trent Williams. I know he played and played in the previous two playoff games, but was hurt at the end of the regular season. Trent Williams is old, right? Like, this stuff. This stuff happens to players who are older, and the 49ers are an older team. What I just find interesting is we're just a couple of seasons removed of a healthy Brandon Iuk, a Debo Samuel. All of these weapons, you know, George Kittle's in his early 30s, but all of these weapons at their disposal. And now you get into the playoffs this year and you're thrown to Juwan Jennings.

[Rich]

I think that's the one thing that no one talks about. About the 49ers. I'm glad you brought it up, Dan. As a Niners fan, I said to Cavino, I said, you run it back with healthy players, you're still lacking a big receiver. You're right. The 49ers were like, well, you have Ayuk. You had Debo, who's like this multipurpose guy in his prime.

[Dan Byer]

They tried to drive Pierce all, but he's been a bust. And I know the start of last year was very unfortunate with the. With the, you know, the gunshot situation, but this year, he's been injured throughout the year, so that hasn't panned out like you would have hoped.

[Rich]

I think other than just getting healthy, the 49ers do need to figure out in free agency or the draft, like, a wide receiver is on the list.

[Dan Byer]

Yeah.

[Rich]

Like, they. You're right. John Jennings, other than him, like. Like Kendrick Bourne was back in the mix. Like people that came back in the mix that wouldn't even be on other teams.

[Covino]

Something that made me go over the weekend again. We'll take your phone calls. Hey, congrats to the Rams. Nothing against them. And props to Stafford's teeth. Man, I don't know if you saw how gleaming white his teeth were at the end of the game.

[Rich]

He needs to. Just for men, his cheekbones.

[Covino]

You don't like that, huh?

[Rich]

It's.

[Covino]

Listen, that grizzled, like, wisdom look of wisdom.

[Rich]

No, but it's like, I'll be. I'll tell everyone the honest truth. I touch up the sides a little bit because right there by the jawline where Matthew Stafford just has gray patches. It's not a good look. Like, I just feel like a little touch up.

[Danny G]

It's weird looking. It's like a gray swirl.

[Covino]

I do notice it.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

I'm giving him like, a Wolverine.

[Rich]

Because when you're rocking more of. Like a. More of a. Like a stubbly beard, that touch up.

[Covino]

That area, he got a Paulie Walnuts thing going on in his face. Guys, during that game, like I said, not to take away from their win, but, man, Caleb Williams really showed superstar potential in this run, and he made me a believer. We saw maybe the greatest playoff play of all time. I think Danny G, you even said, was that, like, the dopest play ever? It really was an amazing play to keep them in the game. And then he throws an interception. And you could blame him or DJ Moore's route.

[Rich]

DJ Moore gave up on that route.

[Covino]

He did.

[Danny G]

He did.

[Covino]

It was a bad. Or you could say bad, communication and timing. On that play. But for him to go from hero to zero that quick, I felt for the dude and just everything he said after the game, it made me like him even more. Like I'm a fan of not the Bears, but of Caleb Williams moving forward. I really believe in that guy, and I think he'll learn from that. And it was really cool to see how big he played in those big moments.

[Rich]

All right, let's go to DB for an update. Dan Byer, what's up, buddy?

[Dan Byer]

Yeah, guys, I'll make it quick. The big news of the day is the Bills fired at coach Sean McDermott, but they promoted general manager Brandon Bean. The Dolphins have hired Jeff Halfley to be their new head coach. He was the packers defensive coordinator comes over from Green Bay, hired by new general manager John Eric Sullivan, who was a former piece of the packers front office. Seahawks running back Zach Charbonnet is going to miss the remainder of the season after suffering a torn ACL in their win over the 49ers on Saturday. Broncos finally getting some good news. They open up the practice window for running back J.K. dobbins, who hasn't played since the middle of the regular season because of a foot injury. Some more coaching news in the NFL. The Lions are hiring former Cardinals offensive coordinator Drew Pensing to be their OC In Detroit. Falcons keeping defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrich. He'll work under new head coach Kev Stefanski. And it looks like Eric B. Enemy is going to be on his way back to Kansas City as the Chiefs offensive coordinator. Jordan Schultz says that biennie likely lining up to replace Matt Nagy, who's interviewing for head coaching jobs. Nagy's contract not renewed by the Chiefs as he could be headed again to be a head coach again in the National Football League. The enemy Most recently, the Bears running backs coach Indiana Miami for college football's national championship tonight in South Florida. Bucks top the Hawks 112 to 110. Clippers just outlasted the Warriors 110 to 106, while Shea Gilgis Alex at 30, Chad Holmgren 28. Thunder route the Cavs 136 to 104. LeBron James a streak of being named at all All Star Game starter comes to an end today after 21 straight seasons. Guys, back to you.

[Rich]

What a streak.

[Covino]

Yeah, yeah, man.

[Rich]

I, you know, I've, I have more thoughts on Caleb Williams, so put a, put a, put a hold on that for a second. Caleb Williams. We got to talk more about him and this video of Tom Brady throwing on the field that I got. I have a thought about Tom too. So we'll get to a bunch of.

[Covino]

Stuff, more NFL, last one standing and.

[Rich]

A thought about baseball. And tonight, Danny, you get a little preview of your dude.

[Covino]

Let's go, Fernando.

[Rich]

We'll get to all that and more. Next Cavino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio.

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[Rich]

Yo, you know what rips?

[Covino]

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[Dan Byer]

Fourth down and 414 of the Rams shotgun snap. Goes back four, four man rush.

[Rich]

He's chased, he's flushed, he's all the way back.

[Dan Byer]

Back to the 40.

[Rich]

He's back pedaling and throws a pass into the end zone. Caught. Touchdown. Touchdown. Chicago has caught a touchdown pass with Cole commit open in the corner. If you hadn't seen it, you would not believe it.

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[Rich]

Mike Oliver said on our in show chat.

[Covino]

What up Mike?

[Rich]

Kevin Harlan's good, huh?

[Covino]

Yeah, so good he listens to our.

[Danny G]

Network by the way.

[Rich]

Yo, what up Kev?

[Danny G]

He has tweeted in before to comment on things we're talking about.

[Covino]

Appreciate that.

[Rich]

As Wes from Vegas said, who's a Seahawks fan. All for nothing.

[Covino]

And you know what? Yeah, that was tough, man.

[Rich]

Want to go to Kevin Culver City?

[Dan Byer]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

He wants to talk about Caleb Williams in that play.

[Rich]

What up, Kev?

[Kevin Harlan]

What's up, fellas?

[Covino]

What's up, man?

[Kevin Harlan]

Hey, that play was incredible because he's running back 50 yards.

[Covino]

No.

[Kevin Harlan]

And then he does like a. He's falling down three guys in front of him. He throws the ball accurately, perfectly in the end zone when K catches it. I thought they were going to go for two too. I thought the Rams lesser after the game's over. There's no way the Rams were going to stop him there because Caleb could have ran the ball or threw it. So the Rams got away with one there. So I totally thought they were going for two. And another thing too, which hit him. All you need is a, for a backup quarterback is one game. I mean, so he might not get the two games, but you can win one game with him. That's what a backup quarterback could do. They're going to run the football.

[Rich]

I, I think like we were saying, that offensive line for Denver, solid.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich]

They have a good running game. They have a great defense. It's. It's a scenario where a backup quarterback could do things like you, you don't ask a lot. You don't ask a lot out of a quarterback in that scenario.

[Covino]

That's why you saw the confidence of Sean Payton. That, that's what I think I agree with Dan said, you know, I think this is his chance to shine.

[Rich]

I think Caleb Williams in that moment, like, so awesome. Well, Ben Johnson, did you see Ben Johnson after the game? They asked him why he didn't go for two. And you had noticed throughout that game the Bears had struggled on 4th and short. They had come up short a few times. So in that moment, Ben Johnson did say because of their lack of success earlier in the game in those short yardage, fourth down situations, that he felt better about going to overtime. He thought about it. But earlier in the game, there were moments where the Bears looked lost on like 4th and 2 cove.

[Danny G]

It's like a boxing match when you got a guy on the ropes, you gotta finish him off. You let him go to another round, who knows how it's gonna finish.

[Rich]

Danny, you're right. 30 seconds left in the round. You don't want to let him get to the next round. You want. You have 30 seconds, knock them out. And they had the chance to be like, all right. It would have been the most ballsy call, I would say, arguably in recent NFL history to go for it in the end of regulation, go for two for the win. But if they go for that, finish him. If they go for that and get it, Ben Johnson is like a hero. Caleb Williams. But you know what? You know what they got? They got the Andy Chavez treatment. And you might be like, who's Andy Chavez? Exactly. One of the greatest catches you ever see in baseball postseason history. New York Met left fielder jumped over the wall to bring back a home run in game seven snow cone. But the only problem was the Mets ended up losing the game. And what would have been called the greatest catch ever is just a cool moment. That would have been if the Bears.

[Covino]

Win that game, the moment that was huge.

[Rich]

If the Bears win that game, that's one of the greatest moments in playoff history. We got more CNR next. More NFL. Hang tight. Yep.

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