C&R - McCarthy Crocodile Tears, Breaking Belichick Bomb!

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show: C&R - McCarthy Crocodile Tears, Breaking Belichick Bomb!

Date: January 28, 2026
Hosts: Steve Covino (“Covino”), Rich Davis, Dan Beyer, Danny G, Iowa Sam
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts & Dan Patrick Podcast Network

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Episode Overview

This episode of Covino & Rich dives into two of the NFL’s hottest coaching headlines: the emotional homecoming of Mike McCarthy to the Pittsburgh Steelers, and the bombshell that legendary coach Bill Belichick fell short of first-ballot Hall of Fame induction. The crew breaks down the meaning behind McCarthy’s tears, the reaction among Steelers fans, and how rare it is for people to come “full circle” in their careers. Then, live on air, breaking news hits about Belichick missing the HOF cut, sending the studio into disbelief and sparking a sharp debate about sports legacies, voter grudges, and the impact of scandals. Interwoven are personal stories and classic C&R humor, plus some candid listener calls and reflections on sports dreams coming true.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Snow Shoveling & Inflation Side Chat (02:12–04:48)

• Modern “Snow Shovel Economy”:
  • Rich discusses how snow shoveling, once a classic kid’s hustle, is now dominated by professionals charging exorbitant rates (“250 bucks!” – 04:09).
  • “Taking jobs away from high school nose pickers, man. Leave it to the high school kids.” – Covino (04:30)
  • Sets the stage for a bigger theme: how things change over time, from childhood dreams to grown-up realities.

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Super Bowl Prep & Sports Media Anticipation (05:07–06:29)

• Covino and Rich express excitement (and a bit of disbelief) about heading to Santa Clara for Super Bowl coverage.
  • “...I feel like this is going to be our biggest super bowl yet. So Covino and Rich, center stage.” – Rich (05:31)
• They preview athlete and celebrity interviews, schmoozing with industry vets, and bonus content.

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Steelers Hire Mike McCarthy – Fan Reaction & Resume Realness

[Main segment begins 06:30]

The Stability & Surprise of the Steelers (07:04–08:16)

• Pittsburgh’s reputation for rare coaching changes sets the scene.
• Mike McCarthy’s résumé is recounted: Packers (Super Bowl winner), Cowboys, and now Steelers.
• There’s acknowledgment that Steelers fans found the hire “underwhelming,” with some hoping for a younger OC.
  • “This hire was underwhelming to a lot of Steelers fans over the weekend. In fact, it kind of felt like a news dump.” – Guest Analyst (08:03)
• Covino defends McCarthy’s knowledge and experience: “174 wins in the NFL...as far as knowledge and a guy to coach, the Steelers should be pretty pumped about that.” (08:30)

Emotional Press Conference: McCarthy’s Dream Come True (10:25–11:18)

• Rich identifies with emotionally driven stories (“...I get emotionally pulled to that. If someone’s...parents were in jail and he’s an orphan, and then he, you know, now he’s singing on the big stage, I’m like, that’s beautiful.” – 10:35)
• They play a clip of Mike McCarthy’s teary Steelers presser:
  • Quote:
    "I understand and embrace the responsibility,...the weight that comes with this stewardship, this city, this franchise, this fan base means the world to me because Pittsburgh’s my world. And it’s just awesome to be back here."
    — Mike McCarthy (11:00)
• Covino and Rich frame his emotion as more than a fourth job—this is his “childhood team,” a true full-circle moment.

Why So Emotional? (11:54–16:22)

• The crew speculates if the tears are for going home or gratitude for a rare third NFL chance.
  • “So playing for your childhood team, coaching for your childhood team, I’m sure has something to do with it. But again, it’s that third opportunity. It’s trying to make the most of it, take it all in. He’s front of his home city.” – Covino (16:22)

Rarity of “Full Circle” Childhood Dreams (16:36–21:14)

• They riff on other athletes who get to play—for or coach—their childhood teams (e.g., Anthony Volpe, Garrett Cole, Tom Brady).
  • “I imagine the percentage is really low where these players get to play for the team they dreamed about as children.” – Covino (18:23)
• Rich likens it to his own feeling coaching his son’s Little League Mets: “If I’m excited that me and my kid are on the Ponyball Mets, how do you think a pro feels? Take my feelings and amplify them by a minute.” (20:09)

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BREAKING: Bill Belichick Falls Short of First-Ballot Hall of Fame

[Breaking news drop: 21:28–25:18]

The Bombshell & Raw Reaction

• Dan Beyer delivers ESPN’s scoop:
  • “A report from ESPN says that former Patriots head coach Bill Belichick will not be a first time first ballot Hall of Famer...” (21:31)
  • Quote: “Belichick fell short of the 40 votes out of the 50 needed to get in...Belichick quoted as saying ‘Six Super Bowls isn’t enough and what does a guy have to do?’” — Dan Beyer (21:48)
• “That’s crazy.” – Covino (21:47)
• “Those Jabronis deserve to get their vote taken away.” – Rich (23:49)

Debating the Snub & Legacy

• The crew is floored, raising theories (feuds with media, Spygate/Deflategate, recent team performance without Brady).
• “You could think whatever you want about Belichick as a person...everyone should be able to acknowledge what he did for the Patriots and in the NFL. Damn. So that’s—that’s just ridiculous.” – Covino (24:04)
• Dan Beyer connects the dots with other snubbed coaching greats (Mike Shanahan, Mike Holmgren): “If Belichick’s not getting in, how are their cases any better?” (23:22)
• “Lesson learned, I guess.” – Covino on the political realities behind Hall votes (41:33)

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The “Crying in Sports” Angle & Listener Engagement

[Transitions to emotional intelligence, fan input, and lasting impact of the news]

Age and Emotion; Permission to Cry? (34:21–34:40)

• Covino: “How many cries do you get per year? We already established as you get older, you do tend to get more emotional.”
• Sets up a discussion for men on emotional expression in high-profile sports and life.

Listeners Weigh In: Cheating Scandals & HOF Votes (29:56–31:53)

• Multiple listeners and hosts speculate that Belichick’s scandals (Spygate, Deflategate) and his chilly reputation with the press cost him the unanimous nod.
  • “Yeah, just thought, I mean, if Belichick’s not getting in, it’s because one of those votes, those guys are like, are mad at him for cheating, you know, for being accused of cheating multiple times.” – Isaac, caller (30:18)
  • Dan Beyer: “...Belichick probably wasn’t the warmest towards some reporters. And these are people who vote for the Hall of Fame.” (31:24)
• Covino: “When you really dissect it and break it down, making sense of something that didn’t make sense just minutes ago, that’s exactly what happened.” (31:36)
• “...He’ll get in, but this is their way of making a statement.” – Rich (31:53)

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Quick Hits & Notable Moments

Steelers' McCarthy, Allen, and Player-Coach Relationships

• Covino and Dan Beyer discuss if McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers are truly reconciled (13:13).
  • “I believe that Aaron Rodgers has a better appreciation for what Mike McCarthy did for his career and did for his time in Green Bay...” – Dan Beyer (13:55)

Coaching Carousel & Young Hires (36:59–37:38)

• talk of the NFL veering younger in coaching: “Joe Brady, youngest coach in the NFL now, 36.” – Rich (37:04)

Iconic Macho Man Debate (33:35–34:14)

• Covino and Rich banter about who’s the “real” Macho Man, ranking Randy Savage, Macho Camacho, and even video game characters.

Hall of Fame Voting Petty Theories

• Covino raises if Belichick’s highly publicized relationship with a 20-something could have cost him votes (39:49–41:33)
  • “Do you think the Jordan Hudson thing had anything to do with maybe a vote or two? People are petty, dude.” – Covino (40:09)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On McCarthy’s Emotions:
  “This city, this franchise, this fan base means the world to me because Pittsburgh’s my world. And it’s just awesome to be back here.” — Mike McCarthy (11:00)
• On Steelers Fans’ Tepid Reaction:
  “I think maybe they were not underwhelmed. I think they were just whelmed.” — Rich (08:54)
• On Belichick HOF Snub:
  “Belichick fell short of the 40 votes out of the 50 needed to get in...Belichick quoted as saying ‘Six Super Bowls isn’t enough and what does a guy have to do?’” — Dan Beyer (21:48)
• On Biased Voting:
  “Belichick probably wasn’t the warmest towards some reporters. And these are people who vote for the Hall of Fame.” — Dan Beyer (31:24)
• On Childhood Sports Dreams:
  “I imagine the percentage is really low where these players get to play for the team they dreamed about as children.” — Covino (18:23)
• Listener Call:
  “If Belichick’s not getting in, it’s because one of those votes, those guys are like, are mad at him for cheating, you know...” — Isaac, caller (30:18)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Snow shoveling and inflation anecdote: 02:12–04:48
• Super Bowl broadcast anticipation: 05:07–06:29
• Steelers hire McCarthy; reaction and emotional context: 06:30–16:22
• Full-circle childhood sports dreams: 16:36–21:24
• BREAKING BELICHICK HOF SNUB: 21:28–25:18
• Belichick legacy debate, cheating, and emotions: 25:38–31:53
• Listener callers and “petty voting” discussion: 29:56–31:53
• NFL coaching changes and youth movement: 36:59–37:38
• Fun banter (“Macho Man” debate): 33:35–34:14

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Tone, Style, and Flow

The episode combines classic sports radio energy, fandom, and humor. C&R’s style is accessible and relatable, mixing pop culture asides with informed sports commentary. The emotional impact of sports for both public figures and average fans is a running thread, anchored by the McCarthy and Belichick stories. The hosts don’t shy away from ribbing each other or pondering the more human elements behind famous names.

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Value for Listeners

Whether you’re a hardcore NFL watcher or just intrigued by what happens off the field, this episode offers:

• Deep dives on coaching careers, NFL culture, and the politics of legacy.
• Candid and sometimes humorous admission of what it means to “come home” again—whether you’re an athlete, coach, or just a Little League dad.
• Immediate, raw radio reaction to stunning breaking news about an all-time-great coach.
• A unique look at how sports emotions—from tears to pride—reflect bigger truths about growing up, dreams, and doing what you love.

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In Short:
This episode is a must-listen for anyone fascinated by sports legacies, media drama, and the human stories beneath the stats. Touching, surprising, and laugh-out-loud at times, it shows why Covino & Rich have become an essential sports talk listen.

Transcript

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[Rich Davis]

Hey, thanks for listening to the.

[Covino]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Covino]

Oh hey, the chat is already popping bro. Covino and Rich FSR Streaming live It's CNR on fsr. Hope you're having a great Tuesday. I'm in Jersey, but we're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studio. We meaning Rich Davis, Danny G. Iowa Sam Dan Beyer.

[Rich Davis]

You. You see that Jabroni in New Jersey? Hey, maybe he's your neighbor. He's sipping a cup of coffee and he's watching his robot snowblower. Yeah, said he spent five grand on it.

[Covino]

Cup of golf. Hey hey, if you miss any of the show, you want to catch the podcast, search Covino and Rich. But again here or see here it Is see what you hear at Covino and Rich fsr. Let's rock out.

[Rich Davis]

Before we get into all the NFL, some coaching changes. We got new coaches. We got crying coaches. We got a lot to get to today. We're gonna play.

[Covino]

We also got prizes.

[Rich Davis]

Showtime. Mahomes trivia. Give away some prizes. We're going to talk about an end of an era. And it has nothing to do with sports. It has to do with travel, accommodations. So a lot of random fun stuff. But I do want to bring up something. Being that it is snowing in most of the country or you got the remnants, the slush. My sister happened to listen to our best of that Danny G. Puts together. So what's up, Laurie? My sister said we were so off the mark.

[Covino]

We or you?

[Rich Davis]

Oh, no, I'm. I'm not. I'm not a Frenchman. We as in you and I?

[Covino]

I don't know about that. Maybe I was just agreeing with you to be nice.

[Rich Davis]

We come from France. Oui, oui. We were talking about how in the 90s, when I was a little boy and I would shovel snow around town, I would charge 10 or 20 bucks. 20, maybe 30 bucks for a big corner house in a rich neighborhood. But if you want to do Old Lady McGee's, just our walkway. Maybe 10 to 15. 20 bucks. And I think we insinuated like, what is it now? 20, 40, 50 bucks. My sister said the game of kids going around the neighborhood is over. It's like grown men, like landscapers and companies knocking on the door. My sister got a quote and she has a house on Long Island. Corner house, but it's not enormous. They were like, yeah, 250.

[Covino]

2:50.

[Rich Davis]

250. She goes, there's no way on earth. She goes, you guys, when you guys are saying 40, 50 bucks, she's like, my goodness. She goes, people, professionals, like people come around their plow and they're like, yeah, I'll do. I'll do your house. 150, 200 bucks. And you know, people are not effing around. So my goodness, get off here with that inflation.

[Covino]

Taking jobs away from high school nose pickers, man. Leave it to the high school kids.

[Rich Davis]

But I don't even think they're doing it. So it's. Again, it's.

[Covino]

That's true. Yeah, Maybe the hustle's just not the same.

[Rich Davis]

So, hey, let's do this. CNR on FSR spots. Working on getting the video up and running. And we are ready for an action packed show.

[Covino]

Hey, Rich, before we talk about Mike McCarthy, and his crocodile tears.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, I was gonna say you're gonna go get some tissues.

[Covino]

Yeah, yeah. Before we talk about crying in sports and crying in life. His new opportunity that, you know, I'm happy for him. The dude's got a resume, dude. We'll go over it.

[Rich Davis]

I think we forget that sometimes.

[Covino]

Are you sort of bugging out on the fact that we're heading to Santa Clara this weekend? You believe that we're gonna be heading to the super bowl come Sunday night and then doing it live, bringing all that. But we leave this weekend. Don't you feel like it's just creeping around the corner and you're going to have to go to the mall and buy some gear and gear up and represent?

[Rich Davis]

Like, of course.

[Covino]

I'm just sort of, like, in shock that it snuck up on us so fast.

[Rich Davis]

I'm trying to mentally put out there all the stars of the NFL and just, you know, random people I want to interview and get on the show. I feel like this is going to be our biggest super bowl yet. So Kavino and Rich, center stage. I saw some renderings. I said renderings of the set that our buddy. We put together, and all the bosses will be there. So I'm pumped to see what the super bowl is all about. Santa Clara going to be a fun time, and we will be there all week bringing you tons of stuff. And, Danny, I would imagine you'd anticipate a few bonus podcasts because we're going to have a lot of athletes and celebrities, right?

[Dan Beyer]

Yeah, for sure.

[Covino]

Yeah. Tons of interviews, and you never know who's going to stop by. We get to hang out with Stu Gotz a little bit. It's gonna be a wild experience, and, man, it's the most fun we have all year. It's kind of our Super Bowl. It's the Fox Sports Radio Super Bowl. We talk about it for us every year.

[Rich Davis]

We. We mentioned how for us, it's really just bumping it to old coworkers.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

Everyone in the sports industry just, you know, schmoozing and high five. And so it's a great week, so look forward to that next week. But let's kick it off with a story in the NFL has nothing to do with the super bowl, and it's the hiring of Mike McCarthy in Pittsburgh. Now, this is a team. This is the opposite of, like, the jets, who have a coaching carousel every year or so. This is the opposite of teams that every two, three years, like, yeah, we're. We're changing it up. This is a team that's only had a few coaches in its history.

[Covino]

In its history. And they're not, say they're not picking any sort of slouch here. Mike McCarthy, as we stated, has been in the NFL for a long, long time now in the early 2000s as an offensive coordinator, Cowboys head coach, actually Green bay before that, 2006 to like 2018, the Cowboys from 2020 to 2024, and now with the Steelers. And I love DB's update where he said that, you know, he's totally down with having Aaron Rodgers come back.

[Rich Davis]

Well, if you, if you heard the short of it, take a list.

[Dan Beyer]

Do you want Aaron Rodgers back as your quarterback next year?

[Guest Commentator]

I mean, definitely. I mean, I don't see why you wouldn't. But, you know, I think just like anything, you know, knowing Aaron long enough, I think when players are up at that stage of their career, they need to step away and decompress it. That's. I think that's very important.

[Rich Davis]

So, hey, we'll see what happens there. But if Aaron Rodgers wanted to go out the way he wanted to go out, it's like full circle for this dude.

[Dan Beyer]

We should.

[Covino]

Absolutely.

[Guest Analyst]

And you guys, we should point out that it. This hire was underwhelming to a lot of Steelers fans over the weekend. In fact, it kind felt like a news dump. Cause remember, I was texting you guys. You guys didn't even really react to the, to the text.

[Rich Davis]

I think we were, I think we were wrapped up in the playoffs. It was snowing in half the country. You know.

[Guest Analyst]

That's not it, though. McCarthy's exit out of Dallas. I think most fans in Pittsburgh were hoping for like one of the young up and coming ocs.

[Covino]

Yeah, probably right. Yeah. And that's why we're saying you can't really discredit his accomplishments though. Again, I looked it up. 174 wins in the NFL, 112 losses. I mean, he's been involved for so long. The reality is knowledge. I don't. Maybe relatability with some of the young players might be a factor, but as far as knowledge and a guy to coach, I mean, the Steelers should be pretty pumped about that.

[Rich Davis]

Danny G. Nail on the head. I'll tell you why. What day is today? Tuesday. We didn't mention it yesterday. This isn't breaking news. Today was just. We saw the press conference and, and the clips over the last day now, but it wasn't new news today. It just. We're finally getting around to it because it really wasn't like, guys, guess What? Because you take the temperature of the Steelers fans, and I think maybe they were not underwhelmed. I think they were just whelmed.

[Covino]

Whelmed, but also an established guy. I think it's more news when it's like a big surprise, like, whoa, you know, this guy got promoted, or who. I didn't see that.

[Rich Davis]

Why we. Why are we making it seem like John Harbaugh, who signs with the Giants for five. Five years. Their. Their resumes are pretty similar. I don't know if you've seen the side by side. Both super bowl champions, both the same sort of winning pedigree. So I don't know why we put so much more love to the Harbaugh name than we do to the Mike McCarthy. I think it was like Danny said, the unceremonious exit, and he did well in Dallas. Remember, he just couldn't get to that next level, and they had to just move along.

[Covino]

That's probably why. Yeah.

[Guest Analyst]

Does that remind you of Mike Tomlin?

[Dan Beyer]

A little bit. Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

But sometimes changes scenery. I think, Danny, where this is sort of pulling me in now because I'm a guy that you give me an emotional story, I'm pulled in. I'm a sucker for that. That's why, like, American Idol, the show stinks. You know what I like watching, like, the first episode or so where they show, like, the backstory of the kid. Like, oh, my God, he lost his parents and he's deaf and he sings like, I love the story.

[Covino]

You know, if you're ever a shark on Shark Tank, let's say you have money to invest.

[Rich Davis]

I'm a sucker for the kid with a good story.

[Covino]

If the person goes up there and cries, are you invested now?

[Rich Davis]

Dude, I get emotionally pulled to that. If someone's like, Ed is, you know, his parents were in jail and he's an orphan, and then he, you know, now he's singing on the big stage. I'm like, that's beautiful. So to me, when Mike McCarthy gets up there and lets the world know that, you know, he grew up a Steelers fan, this is a dream come true. And he gets emotional. In fact, you want to take a listen to an emotional Mike McCarthy, take a listen.

[Guest Commentator]

I understand and embrace the responsibility, the privilege and the weight that comes with this stewardship, this city, this franchise, this fan base means the world to me because Pittsburgh's my world. And it's just awesome to be back here.

[Rich Davis]

When a grown ass. When a grown ass man gets a little choked up like that.

[Covino]

Well, you know, maybe you hit A point in your life where you think you're not gonna get that chance again, and you do. And not only that, it's a childhood team. How cool is that? So I think it's a really cool story. Yeah, we didn't mention it yesterday because we were whelmed, but when you look at the resume, I find it to be surprising. The reason I gave you his resume is because you would think that this is just another job for the guy, but clearly in his voice, and it means a lot more than that. It's not like he hasn't been there and done that before.

[Rich Davis]

And you know what?

[Covino]

He gets another chance for a team that means something for him. And, you know, as you get older, Rich, sometimes you saw it with your parents and grandparents, you get a little more emotional because, you know, life's short, and these are big moments.

[Rich Davis]

I think if you have boomer parents, you're slowly and surely seeing them get a little more emotional and cry here and there. But you know what? I want to go to Dan Buyer for a second because, you know, I'm sure DB's been all on top of this. You know what's interesting? When he got hired by Dallas, it was a big deal because he was coming off of a successful run in Green Bay for the most part. You know, super bowl champion Mike McCarthy, 62, and that was a big deal. This did go maybe slightly under the radar.

[Dan Beyer]

It was a big deal because it was the Cowboys. It was also a big deal because McCarthy, prior to the to joining the Cowboys, had assembled a staff, and they worked as a staff throughout the previous season to show that they could be ready. I don't think people thought it was a great hire at the time. I think people wondered of him being away from the game if that was phony. Also, it didn't end well in Green Bay, and so it wasn't like he went out on top with the packers despite winning a Super bowl with them. It did not end well. And then when the packers had their success without Mike McCarthy, I think there was a little bit of an underwhelming response to him being hired as the Cowboys.

[Covino]

We talked past on that, though. Actually, I was going to ask you, Manny Munoz hit us up on the live chat at Covino Rich FSR about his exit in Green Bay. Do we know for certain that him and Rogers were friendly at the end?

[Dan Beyer]

They butted heads.

[Covino]

I remember that. So we have to. Are we assuming that everything is good now? That's another part of it that we really just don't know the answer to. I mean he said some nice things there and he said all the right things and he was an emotional, I don't want to say mess. He was in an emotional moment. But we don't know if Rogers gives a diddly squat about this guy.

[Dan Beyer]

I believe that Aaron Rodgers has a better appreciation for what Mike McCarthy did for his career and did for his time in Green Bay. Now going through what he went through with the jets, going through, you know, a season with the Steelers being separated and probably just growing and maturing. So I don't think that they're best friends, but I think that both probably even on McCarthy side have a different appreciation now for what they had in Green Bay. And that's maybe why it could work in Pittsburgh. At least their relationship next season makes.

[Covino]

A lot of sense.

[Rich Davis]

When. When he took over in Dallas 6 and 10 first year. But then after that we remember it was just the under delivering in the postseason because the Cowboys were 12 and five three years in a row and then seven and 10 and you know, he took a walk.

[Dan Beyer]

Dak Prescott at his best years with Mike McCarthy.

[Covino]

So what do you think the tears come from the chance to come full circle and coach the team he loved as a child. He's back home, as he put it, or whatever. Or the fact that he's getting another opportunity in the NFL. You know, he got emotional. Cavino, I'm wondering what you. What do you think it is.

[Rich Davis]

This reminds me of a conversation we had about a year ago, maybe more. And I'm sure Dan and Danny Jean, everyone remembers remember we talked about for a head coach to get a third opportunity, they need to prove something. Because a lot of times you'll say, I'll give you an example. Robert Sala. Robert Sala got a chance with the jets that didn't go the way they planned. Now he's what, taken over the Titans. If that doesn't go well, I'm not quite sure he gets a third chance. Everyone seems to. If you're good and you have a good reputation and people like you and you can make the argument, ah, you just. I was set up to fail.

[Covino]

I think we called it like lightning strikes three times. Yeah. Like it's so. It's so few and far between where you get a second chance of something like that. And we tied it into name other actors that had more than one franchise.

[Rich Davis]

You get, you get lucky. You know, if you're an NBA, NFL, major league baseball manager, you'll get a second chance. If you had a. If you Had a. Even a sniff of success. I think someone. If you're again, if a good representative chance, that's rare. It's the. If you were pretty much fired twice, to get a third shot means that you must be a pretty impressive guy.

[Dan Beyer]

Yes. And I've had success at least at one stop. It's not easy to do to get that third opportunity.

[Covino]

So playing for your childhood team, coaching for your childhood team, I'm sure has something to do with it. But again, it's that third opportunity. It's trying to make the most of it, take it all in. He's front of his home city.

[Rich Davis]

I think there's something there too. Like, you know, what is the chance that you make it to the bigs, you get to the NFL, the NBA, or you're the best stories and you end up playing for the team you rooted for. I mean, you just see the pictures floating around of an adorable teenage Drake May and his girlfriend, and he's got Panthers gear on because he's a Panthers fan. You make the NFL, you go to the team that drafts you, and that's your team now. Joe Montana, we interviewed Joe and you know, as a Niners, and I'm like, niners, baby. He's like, yeah, When I grew up, I was a Steelers fan. I'm like, what? And then, you know, Tom Brady. Tom Brady, a huge Niners fan, but he made his life in New England. So to go play.

[Covino]

I never leaves you. We always debate. We debated for so long if he'd come back to play for the 49ers because that was his team. Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

You know what, Kavino? I do think of a guy that you're stupid. Yankees, the Volpedo. I always remember the story of Anthony Volpe. Who's your sharding? Your sharding. Yeah, he is. Your sharding shortstop. He charted a few times in key moments. Your starting shortstop, Anthony Volpe. There's pictures of him rooting on Jeter with his pinstripes on. And he's a Yankees fan that's playing shortstop for the Yankees.

[Covino]

He was at the parades back in the day. Garrett Cole holding up banners. He was a Yankees fan. That's why I thought it was only fitting that Bellinger was a Yankee again. His dad played on the Yankees. He's got little kid photos of him wearing Yankees gear. Ben Rice was a Yankees fan. Jeter was a Yankees fan. It happens. It happens. But it's not that often that people get that opportunity to play for the team they loved. So, yeah, it's like A dream come true. Dude, how many, how many players? Believe me, we named a few. It happens a lot.

[Rich Davis]

I think the list is not much.

[Covino]

Longer than what we said. I imagine the percentage is really low where these players get to play for the team they dreamed about as children.

[Guest Analyst]

Like devonte Adams when he went to my Raiders. And unfortunately, that didn't end well. But remember all the pictures surfaced of him growing up in the Bay Area.

[Covino]

With all the dreams come true, Danny. Yeah, imagine that, yo.

[Guest Analyst]

Just putting that uniform on, just putting.

[Covino]

That logo on, it always means that much more. And really, I gotta really, really bring it down to make it relatable. But when my baseball dreams went away, when I realized I wasn't taking Jeter's job for the Yankees, honestly, I did set my sights at, well, what am I a big fan of? And that was radio. And I was a huge, huge rock fan. And working at KROC New York for me was like playing for the Yankees of radio because I was such a fan of it in RAD was big. And that format and genre was huge in my life at the time. So in a way, Rich, I can't say I, I could relate, believe me. That's not my point. I'm just saying that it does mean more when you care and you were a fan on, on the come up.

[Rich Davis]

It. It matters a lot. And I'll tell you why I'm a Mets fan. The fact that my son and I, I'm, you know, as, you know, number one coach on Fox Sports Radio.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Dan Beyer]

When did that start?

[Rich Davis]

Always been Danny. When I drew the number for the Little League Pony ball draft and this year we're the Mets. That to me was awesome.

[Covino]

You know what, dude? And that's my kid silliest example.

[Rich Davis]

But I completely understand if I'm excited, makes it better if I'm excited that me and my kid are on the Ponyball Mets. How do you think a pro feels? Take my feelings and amplify them by a minute.

[Covino]

Hey, are you or are you not the coach of the Mets right now?

[Rich Davis]

People say it's Mendoza. I say it's me.

[Covino]

Yeah, I mean, he's not lying. It makes it more special. So I think it's a mixture of all those things together. That's why you get.

[Rich Davis]

Why do you think every. Why do you think every little kid out here in LA wants to be on the Dodgers Little League team with a Pony bowl team? Because it's the Dodgers. So like I said, amplify that by a million.

[Covino]

By a million. And that's what?

[Rich Davis]

That's what Mike McCarthy's crying about.

[Covino]

It's a solid point. So think about that. Other stories where the childhood dream actually came true and I got a second layer to the question.

[Rich Davis]

I'll give you one. You hear it a lot on big radio stations like Z100 in New York or Kiss FM out here in LA. You'll hear a pop star say, like I used to, I would listen to you on my way to school. And you guys are now playing my song. Like, this is the radio station. This is the iheart station I listen to. And like, you know, like I remember, I think it was like, I think it was like Ariana Grande who like told Elvis Duran like, I used to listen to you on my way to school every day. And now you're playing my song.

[Covino]

Like, you know, it's, it's full circle. It's that childhood dream and more examples next. And I have another question based on Mike McCarthy, but we got NFL breaking news.

[Rich Davis]

Let's go.

[Covino]

Breaking news from Fox Sports.

[Dan Beyer]

A report from ESPN says that former Patriots head coach Bill Belichick will not be a first time first ballot hall of Famer as he did not receive enough votes to be enshrined into the Pro Football hall of Fame this upcoming summer.

[Covino]

That's crazy.

[Dan Beyer]

The report from ESPN's Don Van Naata Jr. And Seth Wickersham say that Belichick fell short of the 40 votes out of the 50 needed to get in. Who's hating, quoting at least four different sources is saying that Belichick was notified of this news on Friday. Belichick quoted as saying six Super Bowls isn't enough and what does a guy have to do? But Bill Belichick will not be a Hall of Famer this summer, according to this report from espn.

[Covino]

That's a joke, dude. That's only a joke. Second to Rich not being acknowledged by his Syracuse alma mater. That's a joke.

[Rich Davis]

I can't believe that.

[Covino]

That really is. I know he's had a rough year plus and a in a shaky storyline in recent history. But what he did in the NFL is unmatched and I don't know how that's possible. So he must have rubbed somebody the WR way he needs to.

[Rich Davis]

Are you sure one of the voters is in Jordan Hudson's dad?

[Covino]

Seriously, that makes zero sense.

[Rich Davis]

Honestly, like I'm, this is tough too. I'm going to lose.

[Covino]

What more does he have to. What more does he have to do?

[Dan Beyer]

It's kind of a no news sort of thing. But I think it was so surprising in hearing that, because we all just felt it was a foregone conclusion. Mike Holmgren got to the final round of balloting last year and ultimately did not get in. I think that he should be in. I think Mike Shanahan should be in. I think a bunch of these guys should be in. And now it's like, their case isn't as good if Belichick's not getting in.

[Rich Davis]

At this point, by the way, that's another stupid Mike Shanahan Holgram. These guys are generational coaches, and Belichick is on the top of that list. That is wildly bizarre to me. It's like Kavino, who was the Yankee that was missing, like, one vote, had 99%. Like, was it Jeter or Marian Rivera was unanimous. Right.

[Covino]

Mo was, I think, the only guy unanimous and Jeter was one vote.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, like, one guy. And it's like, who is the person that said, you know, five World Series, the captain, clutch, Mr. November. I. I'm a Mets fan. I don't like. But in my mind, I'm like. To not vote Jeter in. To not vote Belichick in. Those. Those Jabronis deserve to get their vote taken away.

[Covino]

You could think whatever you want about Belichick as a person. From the Patriots. Yeah, it doesn't matter, because I think everyone should be able to acknowledge what he did for the Patriots and in the NFL. Damn. So that's. That's just ridiculous.

[Rich Davis]

Thanks for the breaking news, DB that's wild.

[Dan Beyer]

And there's. There's one other layer to this. He was in a coaches category. Bob Kraft, Patriots owner, is a finalist in the contributors category. So you wonder, did Kraft get in? And they're like, we don't want to mess with Belichick or, we'll have to see. We'll have to see how it plays out. But both were up for possible enshriment this summer, but Belichick apparently not good enough to make the cut. We'll see if the Patriots.

[Covino]

What do you think there's a mistake there? Like, oh, there has to be an error.

[Rich Davis]

Like, was there a hanging chad involved?

[Covino]

It's a misprint.

[Rich Davis]

Is it the case of the hanging Chad 25 years later, 26 years later, my goodness. Well, think about it. If you're voting, forget the six super bowl wins, nine super bowl appearances.

[Covino]

Right.

[Rich Davis]

The two Giants losses and the Eagles loss, and the.

[Dan Beyer]

You mean as an assistant?

[Rich Davis]

As an assistant and. Oh, I don't win as an assistant and a loss.

[Dan Beyer]

Yeah, he has. He had 2 and 21 and 25.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. So, Mike, all that and nothing, huh? No.

[Covino]

Beans dedicated his life to the NFL and was great at it. That's a joke. I feel like someone's out for him, if not a misprint. Or he really did something behind the scenes we don't know about because that makes no sense at all.

[Rich Davis]

Geez. All right, well, hey, your thoughts about Belichick, Your thoughts about Mike McCarthy? I want to get into the crying aspect of it.

[Covino]

Or maybe Brady winning with the Buccaneers really spoke louder volumes than we thought.

[Guest Commentator]

Maybe.

[Rich Davis]

So. We'll get to all that and more next right here. Kevin on Rich on Fox Sports Radio. Taking it one day at a time.

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[Covino]

Mike McCarthy so emotional. We're talking about it. I'm a little emotional hearing about this Bill Belichick snub, but there's some theories floating out already on our YouTube page at Covino and Rich FSR and I think it's got some meat to it. We'll explain. Covino and Rich. We got the me live from the Fox Sports Radio studio. I'm here in Jersey, the rest of the crew back in la. Your next success can begin sooner than you think. Put your goals within reach at University of Maryland Global Campus, an accredited state university. Apply now and see with no application fee. Classes start February 11th. Learn more at UMGC edu one more time. Rich UMGC edu.

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[Covino]

And by the way, I feel like you're in greater spirits ever since you got your Dude Wipes.

[Rich Davis]

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[Covino]

I can't believe we're leaving this Sunday.

[Rich Davis]

I was just texting. Not to name drop, but I was just texting our pal Guy Fieri. Should we do some tailgate?

[Covino]

What Guy Fieri were you texting? The one with the blonde spiky hair or the guy wearing.

[Rich Davis]

Just a guy.

[Covino]

Yeah, just a guy.

[Rich Davis]

Just a guy.

[Covino]

As part of the super bowl ad. Right. That's why we're seeing all these weird viral photos of Guy Fieri.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, he's part of a Bosch ad. And it's. He's just a guy. So he shaved the goatee. No more spiky hair for the ad and everything. But I was thinking, do you think it would be fun to do some type of cooking tailgate bit with him? I think we do that. That sounds fun, though.

[Guest Analyst]

Always down to eat his food.

[Covino]

Yeah. Who would say no to that?

[Rich Davis]

Son, bring your donkey sauce and let's go to Flavortown. All right. It's gonna be action packed next week. Lining up the guest as we speak.

[Covino]

Can't wait.

[Rich Davis]

Talking about all the coaching changes. You know, lost in this mix is Buffalo Bills and how they just hired a head coach. We're going to talk about that. But the other news, Dan Byer broke in with Bill Belichick. Not going to be a first time hall of Famer.

[Covino]

Well, you know what I was thinking about, Rich? I had an EP for me. I was using the bathroom and it dawned on me that, yeah, you know, there's a lot of people that just didn't take kindly to the fact that he's affiliated with some cheating scandals. And that's why your boy Carlos Beltran even got some flack. But he got voted in. But there was a lot of speculation. And, you know, some people really hold a grudge. More so to certain people than others. And Bill Belichick, not the most likable guy. Maybe rub some people the wrong way and they're like, Bill Spygate, Bill Deflate.

[Rich Davis]

Gate Bill, you know, Dan Buyer and I were talking about that during the break. That, yeah, there are people that might say, of course he's going to get in, but because of Spygate, maybe. Maybe just not the first time. Isaac agrees with that. Let's go to Isaac and Casey. What's up, Isaac?

[Covino]

Hey, Isaac.

[Isaac]

Hey, how's it going, guys?

[Rich Davis]

You know what, Isaac? That means we're dead. That means we're both just geniuses if we're thinking the same thing. What's up, man?

[Isaac]

That's what I was gonna say. First off, though, Cavino Rich. I listen to you guys every day and seriously, just one of my favorite shows.

[Rich Davis]

Thanks, man.

[Isaac]

You guys helped me through tons of. Tons of things and it's just. I love you guys show. It's one of my favorites.

[Rich Davis]

Thanks, brother.

[Isaac]

Just want to give mad props. But yeah, I just thought, I mean, if belt chick's not getting in, it's because one of those votes, those guys are like, are mad at him for cheating, you know, for being accused of cheating multiple times.

[Covino]

They're making a statement. They're saying, we didn't forget. And this is our reminder because the credentials are there. Our immediate thought was, that's ridiculous. But when you think about why. And that's why they did it, to remind everybody and you're like, oh, yeah, that's right.

[Guest Analyst]

Beltran was on the cheating Astros and he got into the baseball Hall.

[Covino]

That's why it was controversial, though.

[Guest Analyst]

Now I know, but he's got no resume like Belichick.

[Rich Davis]

Different, except for.

[Guest Analyst]

Except for how many years he played.

[Covino]

Some reason he got an exception. You know why? Because he's more likable. Some people just get that pass, dude. I don't know why.

[Rich Davis]

Different. Listen, different crimes, right? I mean, also, you could say that all these. What I think of the greatest ballplayers of all time, like, I think Barry Bonds is the greatest baseball player in the history of baseball. But there's people that would say, no way, never. And I think that's crazy. But again, you could say that's a bigger crime than spy games. What's up, the umpire.

[Dan Beyer]

Let's also be honest here that Belichick probably wasn't the warmest towards some reporters. And these are people who vote for.

[Rich Davis]

The hall of Fame. You mean onto Cincinnati? Yes, we're on the Cincinnati.

[Covino]

This is clearly what's going on. When you really dissect it and break it down, making sense of something that didn't make sense just minutes ago, that's exactly what happened. So Bill Belichick snubbed for the NFL hall of Fame. Of course, like you said, Rich, he'll get in. But this is their way of making a statement.

[Rich Davis]

You know what another statement is? Mike McDaniel's leather jacket with a pop collar at his Chargers press conference.

[Covino]

Hell, yeah, bro.

[Rich Davis]

My goodness, he looks like the Fonz.

[Dan Beyer]

Did you see how much it cost?

[Rich Davis]

How much? Did people already look this up?

[Dan Beyer]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rich Davis]

What is it, like some $2,000 John Varvatos jacket or something?

[Dan Beyer]

You wish. $12,000.

[Covino]

A $12,000 jacket. Whose leather jacket is it? Fonzies from the Smithsonian.

[Rich Davis]

That's funny. Oh, what's up? I was. Sam, I know you said you had something. I think that. I think Bill Belichick blew it with the voters that be to get into the hall of Fame when he said this on record. I guess I'll just put it nicely and pass on the opportunity to get involved in talk radio. Oh, how could you do that? Oh, man. Burn bridges with that. Let me say this. Jordan Hudson think there's some sympathy love going on in that. In the Belichick household the next day or so.

[Podcast Announcer]

Grumpy.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, Billy.

[Covino]

Some sympathy booty, perhaps. You might. Yeah, he might. Why not? Cash in when you can. And in other coaching news, you know, we'll continue to talk about Belichick throughout the day. We'll take your phone calls at 877-99-FOX. We were talking about the resume of Mike McCarthy and how he's been doing it for a long time. And he seemed to get emotional at his press conference with the Steelers. It's his childhood team. Dreams come true. But when you get older, you realize these chances are few and far between. And he had some tears. And it got us thinking about a few times, a few things actually playing for your childhood team. Those dream moments. Those childhood dream moments. But, Rich, let me ask you this.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. You're.

[Covino]

I think you were absurd in your next level. And that's not a Macho man statement. Oh, yeah. I was thinking Hector Macho Camacho, he's the macho man. I would think that as a fight fan, he was my first macho man. Dude, people, here's the Village People.

[Rich Davis]

You know, Hector Macho Camacho is the fourth macho man I think of.

[Covino]

What do you mean? The four. I think.

[Rich Davis]

I think of the Village People. I think of Super Macho man from Tyson's Punch Out. I think of Macho Man Randy Savage.

[Covino]

But you put Super Macho Man.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Covino]

Over Macho Camacho.

[Rich Davis]

I mean, he was the guy you had to beat right before T. Yeah.

[Covino]

Out of my face.

[Rich Davis]

All right.

[Covino]

Well, anyway, I'm not trying to be like macho man here, but.

[Rich Davis]

How many.

[Covino]

Cries do you get per year? We already established as you get older, you do tend to get more emotional. When I say older, I mean Mike McCarthy and up. He's 62. He's still relatively a young guy. He's still doing. But we've seen that with older people in our life, right? Think about that for a minute.

[Rich Davis]

All right, so how many cries are. I'll think about that. I got a number in mind to damn buy for an update. DB I know you got a lot on your plate, but this Joe Kelly hiring is this. Do you think he's the guy that Josh Allen would say, that's my guy or what?

[Dan Beyer]

Well, Joe Brady, yes.

[Rich Davis]

I'm sorry.

[Dan Beyer]

Leaf pitcher. That would have really sent shock waves.

[Rich Davis]

But Joe Kelly, I was like, what? Joe Kelly? You mean the outspoken relief pitcher? No, no, Joe Brady. Is Joe Brady gonna make waves or is that what you think, Josh Allen's down or what?

[Dan Beyer]

I think that Josh Allen had a lot to say in this hire and I think that there are a lot of people in Buffalo wondering why this was the higher when Brady had such a role in what the Bills did. Listen, they ran the ball really well and you don't want to lose that momentum. But you also wonder how much of a plan Buffalo really had with all of this. There was a poll that I saw online from one of the writers and name escapes me. I think it's anyway from Buffalo. They did a poll. 72% of the the results were that they were against the Joe Brady hire with about 15,000 votes in that they.

[Covino]

Did not like the hire. Welcome that Josh Allen had to have a huge say for a five year deal.

[Dan Beyer]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So Joe Brady five year deal to be promoted from offensive coordinator to be the Bill's new head coach. In other coaching news, Mike McCarthy, yes. Saying he definitely wants Aaron Rodgers back for next season in Pittsburgh. As McCarthy was introduced earlier today. The Broncos have fired offensive coordinator Joe Lamar Lombardi after their loss in the AFC Championship Game to the New England Patriots. Jaguars OC Grant Udinsky and defensive coordinator Anthony Campanelli will return to Jacksonville in their respective coordinating positions. Jets and offensive coordinator Tanner Angstrand are parting ways after one season. Brian Dabel going to be the new offensive coordinator for the Tennessee Titans. And again, the news that just came down within the last hour. Bill Belichick not receiving enough votes to be enshrined as a first ballot hall of Famer in the Class of 2026 for the Pro Football hall of Fam broke that news. Two other notes. Cav center Evan Mobley is going to miss one to three weeks with a calf strain. And at the Australian Open third season American Coco Goff lost in the quarterfinals in straight sets while men's top seed Carlos Alcaraz onto the semis. Guys, back to you.

[Rich Davis]

Hey, Joe Brady, youngest coach in the NFL now 36.

[Dan Beyer]

Yeah, I don't know the ages. Just right off the top of my face.

[Covino]

39.

[Rich Davis]

Kellen Moore, Mike McDonald.

[Covino]

What about McDaniel?

[Rich Davis]

McDaniel? I mean, how old is he?

[Dan Beyer]

Mike mc.

[Covino]

You mean MacDonald?

[Dan Beyer]

Mike McDonald is older than 36.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, he's 38.

[Dan Beyer]

Mike McDaniel isn't a head coach.

[Covino]

I know.

[Rich Davis]

I'm confused. Kellen Moore, 37. So it looks like he's the youngest coach in the NFL right now. Look at that. 36 years old. Is that wild to think someone like significantly younger than you is, like walking on the field like, I'm the head coach.

[Dan Beyer]

And there could be. There's three more vacancies. Browns, Raiders and Cardinals still open.

[Rich Davis]

Perfect. All right, thank you, DB we'll take Kavino's thought about how. How much are you allowed to cry as a grown man? Is there a limit? We'll get to that. Mahomes Showtime trivia and a bunch more next right here on Fox Sports Radio.

[Covino]

Oh, yeah, shout out to all the macho men rocking out with us on the Covino and Rich Show. Yeah, I'm Steve Macho Cavino. That is Rich. He puts the cheese and machismo Davis. And together we form Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. Live from the Fox Sports Radio studio. And Rich, while you dance to the Village People. People can watch at Covino and Rich FSR on YouTube. It's time for our tie Iraq play of the day. Talk about an amazing sequence of events. Last night. The Lakers were on fire in the fourth quarter. On the floor.

[Dan Beyer]

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[Rich Davis]

The bottom the net. Fourth quarter magic.

[Dan Beyer]

How about full game magic right now?

[Rich Davis]

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[Covino]

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[Rich Davis]

Yeah, you need for the hall of fame. 40 out of 50 and he's just shot of 50.

[Covino]

But when I had this other EP for me, it dawned on me how petty and jealous people could be. And do you think that the Jordan Hudson thing had anything to do with maybe a vote or two? People are petty, dude.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, people are jealous. Hey, and you listen, I, I don't.

[Covino]

Think it helped his case. I'm not saying that's the reason people. You don't think it cost them a vote or two?

[Rich Davis]

People could. People could say they separate things, but they don't. Like, my example would be, you know, when they would take away. Remember they took away Reggie Bush's Heisman.

[Covino]

Yes.

[Rich Davis]

And my. I always said to you, it doesn't matter. I remember him flipping into the end zone. So in my mind, he won. It doesn't matter if they take it away because you can't forget it when the Astros won the World Series. And it's like, yeah, but they were cheating. Yeah, very well were. But guess what? I remember them celebrating. So it happened. You could say, well, we're just focusing on his NFL career. But guess what? We all watch for the last year and a half, Bill Belichick being what appears to be bossed around by some hot 20 something and not doing some.

[Covino]

People, some jealous people, or just people in general may perceive as creepy behavior.

[Podcast Announcer]

Yeah.

[Covino]

It could be held against the same.

[Rich Davis]

Like I think that you could. It's like, you know, in court when someone goes, I'm strike that from the record. And you're like, yeah, but I just heard it.

[Commercial Voice]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

Like, I just think strike it.

[Covino]

But I know.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, like you can't unsee things. So I know what you're saying. You're saying subconsciously, maybe even people are like, look at him now. And it. That combined with Spygate, I don't know.

[Covino]

Let'S say he was one or two.

[Rich Davis]

Votes short, which he was. Yeah.

[Covino]

You know, it's. It's possible that that's what cost him. And it's a shame he'll get in, but lesson learned, I guess.

[Rich Davis]

Well, I think that combined with the message of, all right, you're going to get in, but we're not giving you first ballot because of some little things here and there, that feels more normal. That feels, like, more accurate to me. He was just shy DB or what?

[Dan Beyer]

No, I was just gonna say this one quick point. You're right. I think the voting was close. But this also affects every other candidate that could be a head coach, because there was only one candidate up this time to be in the hall of Fame. So now everybody else is gonna probably have to wait through next year because the voters wanted to have their way. And that's probably not fair, is what.

[Rich Davis]

You said with Mike Shanahan. What was his story?

[Dan Beyer]

Holmgren was a finalist last year. Didn't get enough votes. Shanahan's on the ballot. He was a semifinalist, as was Tom Coughlin. All those guys.

[Rich Davis]

But with Mike Shanahan, what he did in Denver, with la, what he did as a Niners coordinator, like, how is that guy not in.

[Dan Beyer]

Preaching to the choir.

[Rich Davis]

I'll be honest with you. I don't care. I don't keep an eye on who's in the hall of Fame. As a coach, I would have assumed all the guys you mentioned were in. I was wrong. All right, we got more cnr. We'll talk about crying next. And a bunch more. Hang tight.

[Podcast Announcer]

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[Covino]

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