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All right, we know exactly what we're doing. Hope you ready for Monday night foosball. And talking about all the games and everything you did this weekend like we always do. We call it things that make you go.
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Rich Davis
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Let's have a great week. Hope you had a nice weekend. We're Cadino and Rich and we got Bo hanging out with us today in for Danny G. What up Bo, buddy?
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Rich Davis
And of course Dan Byer on your updates, Spotty's on the videos. And let's this wild rumpus begin. An action packed week of not only NFL football. There were some fights, there was college football and we're gonna go over all of it.
Steve Covino
Let's rock out again. Stick around for the great Dan Byers insight. And of course you could watch what you hear on our new YouTube page. Covino and Rich FSR. Covino and Rich FSR. We're streaming live and we got the live chat poppin. So chop it up and chime in with some Fox sports radio listeners, friends of ours because we keep it mafioso here on the Fox sports radio crime family network. So I'm Steve Covino, that's Rich Davis. Hope you had a great week. And a Steelers, Jags, Bills, Texans sort of weekend, not a pit bull cruise. Lamont Roach fight ends in a draw sort of weekend, not a Henry Cejudo got his ass kicked sort of weekend.
Rich Davis
What's the worst draw or tie? Is it an NFL game? Is it a fight?
Steve Covino
Ooh, that's a good one.
Rich Davis
Is it probably NFL soccer?
Steve Covino
I mean because of how short the season is, you're like a tie.
Rich Davis
Or like anytime you play with your little kid and you're like, yeah, it's a tie, you guys both win.
Steve Covino
It always sucks. But you know what people complain about judges scoring in boxing and there's always claim of robberies and man. Well, first of all, that's why you don't leave it in the judge's hands, right? Train harder, go for the knockout, make it convincing. But I think they actually got it right. I think Pitbull Cruz and Lamont Roach was a draw. Cruz had the first half of the fight, Roach had the second half. Look, we'll talk about it, we'll get into it. Why waste any time? Iowa Samuel hit us up with things that make you go, hmm, let's go baby.
Rich Davis
Things that make you Go. Hmm. Things that make you go now.
Steve Covino
Reminder, if you miss any of today's show, catch the podcast Covino and Rich, wherever you stream and rate it. Five stars. And again, you could watch it on YouTube, you could watch it later on Covino and Rich, FSR, but we do this every Monday. Any observations that you made and week 14 did not disappoint, Rich. We continued tonight, but along with all the football, I did watch the fights and UFC 323 was pretty bloody. I mentioned Henry Cejudo got his ass beat.
Rich Davis
He.
Steve Covino
He announced his retirement. We're going to talk more about that later.
Rich Davis
Don't you leading with a fight that no one cared about. There was like five NFL games that have major implications, one of which eliminated our Kansas City Chiefs.
Steve Covino
I wasn't necessarily leading with it. I was just making reference to it. We'll talk about that.
Rich Davis
I don't know anyone that watched that, to be honest.
Steve Covino
Reprimanding me on national radio. But, yeah, week 14, I think a lot of people watched the fight, Rich. It didn't interfere with football at all. In fact, it was Saturday night and it was a great boxing match. But, yeah, we'll get to that later.
Rich Davis
People doing holiday stuff.
Steve Covino
Absolutely right. So things that made you go, hmm, is not just NFL, but let's break it down, let's talk about it. Want to talk about how your team, the 49ers, benefit from Daniel Jones being out?
Rich Davis
I do. That's something we're going to get to for sure. But I think Kansas City, the big story, would you agree, is that I.
Steve Covino
Think of all the upsets and big wins, the Chiefs losing is the biggest story of the weekend. Their loss is bigger than any win that happened because they were a dynasty for the past 10 years or in the playoffs for the past decade.
Rich Davis
And the thing is, it wasn't an upset as much as just you had this feeling, like you always make the reference. When Tyson was losing to James, Buster Douglas, you kept thinking like, oh, how you doing?
Steve Covino
Talking boxing, bro. We're talking football.
Rich Davis
He'll turn it around. And, you know, he never did. And Buster Douglas upset him. I think all season we're like, all right, the Chiefs are, you know, they'll. They'll figure it out. And here we are. And they are not going to figure it out. They're six and seven.
Steve Covino
It's over. I'm sorry, what are they? Six, seven. Sorry, sorry. Six, seven. Gotta get. Gotta get one last one in there. Because it's so, you know, slowly gone.
Rich Davis
By now, isn't There out here on the west coast. In N Out. Didn't they debut the new Six7 special?
Steve Covino
They skipped no. In N Out has now skipped number 66 to number 68. They actually eliminated.
Rich Davis
Oh, I read the headline quick. I thought they were leaning into it. They're like, we don't want anything to.
Steve Covino
Do with this because of hooligans causing ruckus anytime someone yells out. All right, order for number 67.
So the Chiefs are 6 and 7 and I actually agree with Rich on that. Their loss is bigger than any other story this weekend because of what they meant to the NFL for the past decade.
Rich Davis
Well, I would say that they're most.
Steve Covino
Likely not going to be in the playoffs. In the Texans defense, it was what a battle.
Rich Davis
Defense, right?
Steve Covino
What a game.
Rich Davis
I know you say most likely and.
Steve Covino
You'Re absolutely right, but I'm saying percentage wise.
Rich Davis
No, I know, but I just can't see a path for them. I know, it's like percentage wise. Yes, of course there's a chance. But you know, dude, that was. That was it. I don't care. I guess Travis Kelsey didn't have Taylor Swift and Selena Gomez cheering hard enough.
Steve Covino
You know what made the Chiefs magic is the mat. It was the things that went their way, right? Those magical moments, you know, these drop passes that normally went Mahomes his way in the Chiefs way just aren't happening this year. Everything that they tried to do just didn't happen, just didn't work.
Rich Davis
Travis lost his temper through his helmet and someone was going to give it back to him. And Andy Reid's like, no, like don't give back to him. You get out.
Steve Covino
I mean, the Chiefs weren't chiefing and the Texans have slowly gotten better as the season has gone on. Their defense has stepped up. It was a masterful game of defense to watch. A lot of battling, a great battle and the Texans win 20 to 10. So it's just a matter of the Texans getting better and the Chiefs not getting better the entire season. So they're six, seven most likely out. Texans now eight and five. But that was a fun ass game to watch. But I think their loss and a sad Mahomes, but an accountable Mahomes. Yeah, but an accountable Mahomes, you know, because everything he said in the press conference was, was dead on. He's always well thought out and well spoken and realistic about the outcome.
Rich Davis
We gotta be realistic that they have the same record as the Miami Dolphins. So let's not make it seem like the Chiefs are this team that's like fighting their ass. Look at the Dolphins, they're asses. They won four in a row. But what I'm saying is, Mike, you know, Mike McDaniel may have saved his job, who knows? But what I'm saying is ships passing in the night. Yeah, you can't, you can't look at the Chiefs like, oh, maybe they're as good as the Dolphins and they're as good as the Ravens, who look like ass. A team would really have to collapse for the Chiefs to find their way in. Right now, the 7 seed is the 8 and 5 Texans and right on their heels is the 8 and 5 Colts. I just think that where it's over, it's over for the Chiefs. The only man, there's no real way.
Dan Byer
And also added to all this, which makes it more difficult, they lose a tiebreaker if the Jaguars were to falter. They lose the tiebreaker to the Texans because of the head on loss. They lose a tiebreaker to the Bills because they lost to the Bills. If it ever came down to that. And you got another game with the Chargers coming up, but the Chargers already beat you earlier on in the season. So if you don't win that game, you're not even winning any tiebreakers against any of these teams that you may be tied with because you lost all of them.
Rich Davis
You know what's wild? Dan Beyer, and that's fantastic insight. What's wild is when we were kids, there was one year like the Niners didn't make the playoffs. And I remember it with Tom Brady. There was the year he was hurt, Matt Castle took over. There was one year the Patriots didn't make it. Is this that one year or could we be seeing the beginning of a no?
Steve Covino
That's why I think it's the biggest story. It's the sad ending of a dynasty of a sweet run. That's how I feel anyway.
Dan Byer
And to even go on top of that, I think I have more appreciation for what the Chiefs did after they lost to the Buccane and they made it all the way to the AFC Championship game. The next year, lost to the Bengals when Cincinnati ended up going, but that was the dip. But the Chiefs made it that far that year. Like I have appreciation for that run now, seeing what is happening this year because it is difficult to lose a Super bowl and bounce back with the same sort of emotion, especially if you're Kansas City and won two Super Bowls previous to that. This is just bound to happen at some point.
Rich Davis
Last year we're talking about 3 Pete and now we're talking like, yeah, over.
Steve Covino
Not even in the playoffs. Right. And what adds to that feeling, Rich, is the fact that you're seeing Kelsey probably looking toward retirement, which again, we'll talk about later on.
Rich Davis
Playoffs were symbolically, were Rasheed Rice and that hit. Dude, I haven't seen a hit like that since Ronnie Lott. That was a legal hit. I'm glad there was no flag. But we. When was the last time you saw.
Steve Covino
That was a violent.
Rich Davis
When was the last time you saw a hit of that magnitude in the NFL without a flag?
Steve Covino
He had like a slight convulsion at the end of that. Like he saw his feet.
Rich Davis
I don't think it was concussion.
Steve Covino
I think it was.
Rich Davis
I think it was more like shivers of his spine. Like, I don't know what it was.
Steve Covino
It was very dramatic, though. Maybe he added some theatrics to that hit. I'm not sure. But that was. That was a pop for sure. If you watched a game, you know what we're talking about. That made me go. Because you're right, Rich. I'm surprised they didn't give him a minute. But the Chiefs, I think the dynasties over, at least for now. I don't think they.
Come back in the next few years. I don't. I feel like they have to start all over, so.
Rich Davis
But I'm saying you think Mahomes, and I'm not saying you're saying this. Let me just pose a question. Are you saying that Patrick Mahomes is now the quarterback of a team that will miss the playoffs for a few years in a row? Because that seems weird. Mahomes is going to be a QB of a.500 or sub team for years.
Steve Covino
Like you said, it's not easy to get back. So even if they do get some great additions, could it be the winner, tight end, like, you still got to build some chemistry. There's going to be some. Some growing pains.
Rich Davis
Could it be that we were spoiled? Kavino, in that. Like I said, some of the other legends I mentioned never really had losing seasons. While they didn't win the super bowl, they never really had losing seasons. Like once Indianapolis got going, did Peyton Manning have a losing season? Did Tom Brady have a losing season? Did Joe Montana have a losing season? None of these guys that earned that conversation. Aaron Rodgers, until he moved on from Green Bay, did he have a losing season? You know what I'm saying? Like, we're talking about.
We're talking about, like, I could look at Drew Brees. Maybe there's a year where they went 8, 9 or something. But most, most quarterbacks of that magnitude somehow find a way to get into the playoffs even with a mediocre team. And if we're saying this is over and you got the Chargers And Denver, who's 11 and 2, if their division's good, it would be awfully strange to see Mahomes go through a couple years where it's like, oh, wow, the Chiefs are like pedestrian.
Steve Covino
Oh, it's awfully strange to see the fact that both the Chiefs and the Ravens might be ass. It's a different NFL. They're both 6 and 7. And you know, it's, it's, it's interesting to see how quickly that shifted, right? We're living in the upside down, stranger things style, where the teams that were good just last year and the year before and the teams that we're so used to seeing being the dominant teams in the NFL are no longer. And that's the parody and the beauty of the NFL. Can I give you, what were your observations? 8, 7, 7, 99 on Fox. Let's go.
Rich Davis
Can I give you a very unsexy things that made you go, hmm, sure. Hit me up with the little things. Make you go, Sam, oh, I got to spice this one up because it's not that exciting. It's two teams that aren't again, very sexy. But the Bucks lost a game that may come back to bite them. They lose to the Saints and Carolina's hanging around and they play each other two times in the final four weeks. The Panthers Bucks have not played this year. They're both seven and six, but they play each other two times in the final four. And I think that is very interesting thing because either Baker buckles up and he's like, all right, let's stop the silliness. We're going to do this. Or this is the opportunity for Carolina to say, all right, we're not there yet, but we're there enough to win this division.
Dan Byer
Tampa is not good right now. They are in a bad spot and they lost three coming out of the buy. And I know this because my survivor pool hopes I went with the Buccaneers yesterday and they ended like many the circa, the big circa one in Las Vegas Buccaneers were the most popular pick this past week because you thought with the Saints coming to town, but they're in a bad spot. They played like a team that wasn't the favorite in the game. Guys, they had seven. They were two of seven on fourth down yesterday. Now they're end of the game. They didn't get it where they had to go.
Rich Davis
On fourth down there, there was a folly of errors. The same way like in the Kansas City game. They were. Baker guys were dropping passes, interceptions. The defense could have turned around the game. They bobbled what could have been interceptions.
Dan Byer
Yes. Chris Godwin had a first down on fourth and three and was hit and they jarred the ball loose. Was it just. It's. That's what happens to bad teams. And you're absolutely right. Like, Tampa is in a bad spot right now. The good news is they have the Falcons on a short week, and Atlanta may be in a worse spot. But to think that the Buccaneers could do any damage. I mean, their defense is not what it once was. And yeah, the Saints. Saints had a couple of great plays on third down to convert it. Yeah, Tampa is. Tampa's in a bad spot right now.
Steve Covino
They've been playing bad for the past four games. Like Dan said, one win, one game losing streak, though they won last week, but barely.
Dan Byer
They barely beat Arizona.
Steve Covino
Yeah.
Dan Byer
And Arizona had, like a red zone turnover.
Steve Covino
Even if they were to make the playoffs, like, they're not it. You know, they're not the team. Like, I know it's any one season, and we've been saying that all year, but I think it's safe to say at this point, like, even if a team like that were to sneak in Rich, like, they're not the team.
Rich Davis
There's no way, trust me, you're not that guy. They're not that guy.
Steve Covino
They're not that guy. Even though I like that team and I root for Mayfield, like, they're not that good.
Rich Davis
There's so many observations from the NFL, and we haven't even talked about college football, Notre Dame being out and. Yo, I want to talk about Fernando Mendoza later. This kid's excitement level. But db I saw, because it was not a game that was on my radar, because I thought you were just going to whoop them six, six at halftime. I'm like, did the Seahawks just not show up in the first half? And then they outscore the Falcons 313 in the second half.
Dan Byer
Yeah. Rashid Shahid took the second half. Opening kickoff. Opening kickoff of the second half. Back for a score. Yeah, I think it's just early start, you know, across the country, one o' clock Eastern time start. Let's get our feet under us. And I honestly think that was a part of it. JSN turned it on in the second half. Couple of touchdowns. Yeah. It took him a half to get going, but had a key turnover. Bijan Robinson fumbled it in the red zone which halted any Falcons momentum of them being in the game.
Steve Covino
Right.
Rich Davis
Yeah. I remember being like six, six could they steal a game from Dan's mighty Seahawks. And then very quickly, every time I look another touch that was added.
Steve Covino
Seahawks 10 and 3 now though, they're like a quiet 10 and 3.
Rich Davis
But you know, it could be the most important game of the year week from Thursday. Well, yes, but also the final.
Steve Covino
Wrong.
Rich Davis
The final game of the year. The final game of the year is Dan Byers seahawks and my 49ers. And Dan, if your Seahawks beat the Rams, which is the game you're insinuating.
Dan Byer
Yes.
Rich Davis
If you beat the Rams and the Niners beat Tampa. Not Tampa, Titans, Titans and the Colts. And teams that now that the culture without Daniel Jones there's a chance that week 18 niner Seahawks could be for the one seed. Is that crazy?
Dan Byer
Yes. And it makes it crazy that a team like Tampa or Carolina would get a first round home game. Yeah, like, I mean it's just, it's so absurd that that is the case and it could be better than any of the other teams in the nfc.
Rich Davis
So that. And it's happened before with our teams where the loser, the winner was the 1 seed, loser was a wild card.
Steve Covino
So hey, Rich, you know, made me.
Rich Davis
See that's going to be very interesting. And you know, Daniel Jones, you hate to see that guy go down, no doubt. But it seems like now that team was free falling to begin with and now Indianapolis has to play. They have to play the Seahawks and the Niners back to back. I just feel like that's a punishment for a team that doesn't even have a QB one right now. Who's their quarterback?
Dan Byer
Yeah, Riley Leonard, the backup has got a knee injury and they don't know if he's going to be able to go.
Rich Davis
So I think they call Vinny Testaverde, bring him out.
Dan Byer
Ryan Fitzpatrick, Philip Rivers was the name that was Doug Gottlieb brought up earlier.
Steve Covino
Jokingly, I think there's certain teams, I think what we're getting at is there's certain teams now that we just don't want to give that credit to that completely deserve the credit for whatever reason they're not sexy or don't sound sexy or we're not to seeing them be dominant because we're so used to a Ravens, Chiefs sort of league dance. Seahawks, one of those teams. The Jaguars, one of those teams.
And I think that's what we're getting at right now. Daniel Jones is out that benefits riches 49ers probably. Jaguars win 9 and 4. Now they win 36, 19. And I was getting that Joe Burrow because I think the Bills are a big story here. Josh Allen had a game, but what do you think about. A lot of times when you see a quarterback talk about their team? The answers are always like a Dak Prescott sort of thing of like, we got the team, we're angry, we got a chip on our shoulder. We'll be better, we'll get them next week. Joe Burrow's attitude is an attitude of honesty and you know, mixed with swag, I guess. What are your thoughts, Rich? Cause it makes me say, hmm. When I hear a Joe Burrow fall short against the Bills 39, 34 and he looks at the record, he's like, that's just not good. We're just not good. Do you like that honesty?
Rich Davis
I do, I do. And I. He had a. I don't like the.
Steve Covino
I respect the positive outlook, but I also respect seeing that Joe Burrow expects a lot more from the team he's.
Rich Davis
Playing for but himself. I mean, listen, Joe Burrow, you watch the Bengals kufway their season on back to back interceptions late in the game in the snow. That one we just saw the highlight. I was rolling on one of the TVs little.
Steve Covino
But he was like, four, nine is not good. We're not good.
Rich Davis
A little tip at a pick six. Like it's. Listen, it is what it is. I know db. You had that game circled as a. Ooh, interesting. And it was until the. Until it wasn't.
Dan Byer
They had a 10 point lead in the fourth quarter. Like midway through the fourth quarter, Josh Allen rips off that run for 40 yards, his longest career touchdown run. And then as you mentioned, the back to back interceptions and it was just. Yeah, I mean they scored a touchdown late to make it closer than what it ended up being for as much as the Bills had that whirlwind of success.
Steve Covino
So a fun game to watch, especially the snow game. But the Bills look like they're on track right now. So over the Bengals, that made me say, because I don't know, I thought Joe Burrow was going to pull that one out. We got to talk Packers, Bears, we have a lot to get to. But I also want to get to your phone calls at 87799 on Fox. Any observation. Rich mentioned Fernando Mendoza and he gave God lots of props. He had a fun speech that went viral. We got to talk about that. Some of the fights and more. Any observations you made week 14 as we get ready for Monday Night Football, hit us up at 87799 on Fox. 87799 on Fox. We get to you next.
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Rich Davis
Chris says let's go Texans. They're his. I guess you wouldn't even say dark horse to go all the way. They're looking good. Wes hit us up in Vegas saying the Seahawks spotted them a half and then just destroyed him in the second. I, I saw that as well. I was, was that a matter of.
Steve Covino
Like making adjustments at halftime or they just stepped it into high gear?
Rich Davis
That's, you know, that, that team again, like you said, it's just not just not a sexy team.
Steve Covino
That's just, it's just we're not accustomed to saying that these teams are dominant, but we're seeing a, like a role reversal, a stranger things upside down sort of situation because it's a new NFL, it's a new year and we're seeing some of these other teams emerge as the dominant teams. But again, you still got the Bills in the mix who look good this weekend.
Rich Davis
Well, let me ask you, did the Steelers and the Steelers, did the Steelers win, shut people up or what?
Steve Covino
Metcalf had a game, however, that is Isaiah likely catch.
Rich Davis
That was a touchdown. I don't care what anyone says. That Isaiah likely catch was a tutty. It was, you you looked at that. The eye test didn't tell you that. That there was a catch. And then it just got knocked out once the catch was. Was made.
Steve Covino
But Steelers are tops of the AFC north, and, man, I wouldn't have guessed that. So props to them.
Rich Davis
You know, when you're just subjective, even if it goes against your team, I would imagine even Steeler fans, like, yeah, that was a catch, right? I mean, Dan Byer, do you know anyone that was saying, no, that was not a catch. That likely. That likely catch was a catch.
Dan Byer
Yeah, there may have been a few, you know, Steeler fans. It reminds me of when the Seahawks caught the fail mary against the packers when they had the replacement refs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it totally was an interception. You know, like, it never should have been a Seahawks touchdown. Like, you understand. You laugh like Seahawks fans can laugh at. I'm sure Steelers fans will laugh at this. But you have to say they also had the one where Rogers had the ball deflected and it was still up in the air and he was down on the ground, and they reversed it and said that he had possession and was down and it wasn't the Ravens call. So that adds on to the likely missed call that they called it a touchdown on the field, but replay reversed.
Rich Davis
Usually it's the opposite. It's like, you know, you need a lot of evidence. I don't. That was a wild one. So when you watch that in real time, it did not look like a catch. When you watched it in slow motion, I thought it looked like a catch because he firmly had it. He had. He got a couple feet down. But then when you watch it in real time, you're like, I just didn't have it long enough, dude. Pretty wild, bro. Pretty wild. But you know what? Aaron Rodgers. There were times there was a few passes Aaron Rodgers made in that game where he looked like the Aaron Rodgers of old. Like. Like he. There was. There was one particular play.
Steve Covino
Still got something.
Rich Davis
One particular play where he. Where he hit Metcalf and he was moving around the pocket, dipping and weaving and.
Steve Covino
And he still spin it, but you know what? Can he spin it like Jordan love spinning it, bro. I don't know, man.
Rich Davis
I thought Aaron Rodgers shut some people up.
Steve Covino
He did. He did.
Rich Davis
I thought that Bears packers game. I'm excited. Let's run it back in a couple weeks. I thought that was fantastic. That was a really fun game. I think Tom Brady's getting better in the booth. I like his leather jacket.
Steve Covino
You know, it went kind of viral over the weekend. If you saw it. But him and Burkhart are old pals. We did TV with Burkhart in New York, and it's crazy to see his career just take off.
Rich Davis
I love Kev.
Steve Covino
He's got that swag about him. He is a superstar. But they're in the booth and he mentions that it's chilly there. And Brady pauses like chili. This is freezing here. You can see our breath in the booth.
Rich Davis
You can see their breath in the booth.
Steve Covino
And that's gone viral. So, yeah, props to him because he's feeling more natural and less robotic. And look, man, he does things at a high level. He takes it serious. There's no doubt that he was going to get better as time went on. Much like the Texans, there's a lot of teams just getting better and better every week. I have a question. It's not NFL related, but it's football related. Dan mentioned, you know, Ohio State losing over the weekend. Indiana wins. You mentioned Fernando Mendoza. Did that clip go viral? Because it's beautifully endearing when he talks about their victory. Are people just mocking this dude because he's kind of goofy and corny? I think.
Dan Byer
I think it's more endearing.
Rich Davis
Okay, agreed.
Steve Covino
I think so, too. But when you read the comments, there's a lot of people taking shots at him. And I'm like, oh, okay, now I'm confused, but I agree with you. I thought, like, what a nice kid.
Rich Davis
How can you not love a kid with this excitement? Oh, congratulations, Indiana, the Big Ten champs. How does that sound? It sounds so beautiful. I want to give all the glory to God. We were never supposed to to be in this position, but by the glory of God, the great coaches, great teammates, every we have around us, we were able to pull this off. Whoever thought the hooray would be here, but now the Hoors are flipping champs. Let's go.
Flipping.
Steve Covino
I know.
Rich Davis
And he is a young kid of faith. And Kavino and I were saying that on a side note, I. I grew up in New York. We live in Los Angeles now. We forget the middle of the country. All these young dudes are very religious. It's hard to have you. Did you notice that. That so many young kids. I mean, we're talking about middle of the country. I think we. It's a very different world in major cities.
Steve Covino
You said it, Buster Brown.
Rich Davis
You don't agree, right?
Steve Covino
Yeah. The world doesn't revolve around these freaks out here in Los Angeles and New York, where we grew up.
Rich Davis
I hear you. It was nice to see this thanking.
Steve Covino
God, if that was me, I'd thank Mike, who runs this place first, and then God, of course.
Rich Davis
Okay. You gotta, you know.
Steve Covino
You know, make sure.
Rich Davis
Get it right.
Steve Covino
Mike runs this place. Then who? Mike who runs this place?
Rich Davis
It was.
Steve Covino
If you want an award, you wouldn't. Thank God. It was.
Rich Davis
It was excitement. It was excitement, dude.
Dan Byer
And now just. Just a little background. Mendoza has spent not even a year at Indiana, so he was at Cal previously. He's from Miami, so he's been all around the United States, but been around the world.
Rich Davis
And I He.
Dan Byer
The kind of.
Rich Davis
The funny thing about that clip is, like, he would turn his head and look directly at the camera, like, every five seconds, like, so he'd like. He did kind of break the fourth wall. I almost felt like they will do something with this on SNL or something. Only because I totally. He was so camera, like, he's. He was the opposite of a dud, but his camera awareness, like, he. He was like, camera one. Let me stare at it, get a little extra close. But it was very sweet. It was loving and engaging. Yeah, he was hyped up. And it kind of reminded me of that Willem Dafoe Gif, where he's like, does the crazy smile, then turns the camera and, like, it zooms in on him.
Steve Covino
He's like, rich in your speculation. Do it, Sam. Do it. Thanking God. He's. He's of Cuban heritage, has Cuban background. So I'm not surpr.
Rich Davis
By the way. I wasn't criticizing. I was just saying you see a lot of these young kids, especially that play for, you know, colleges in the middle of the country. A lot of faith out there, a lot of religion out there.
Steve Covino
Well, look, when things go bad, you turn to somebody. So when things are going good, you know, be sure to be thankful. It was. And I thought it was really nice to see.
Rich Davis
It was really interesting because like Dan Byer said, it's the Big Ten.
Steve Covino
But I'm telling you, there's a part of me that thinks it's gone viral. Not only because it was sweet and endearing and authentic, and I did love it. Right. That was his pure excitement right there. But people do think, like, man, this guy's a cornball or something.
Rich Davis
And that's part of the cornball that's going to be the Heisman Trophy winner and just won the Big Ten championship. However, as Dan Byer said, it's not the national championship. Slow down. Right, D.B.
Dan Byer
Yes. It's. It's not.
Steve Covino
I love his voice. Cracks. Dan, in the beginning.
Rich Davis
I know. Congratulations.
Dan Byer
I think he went deeper at the end.
Rich Davis
The Big Ten champs. How does that sound? Sounds so beautiful. I want to give all the glory to God. We're supposed to be in this position, but by the glory of God, the great coach, this great team, everyone we have around us, we were able to pull this off. Whoever thought the Hoosier would be here, but now the Hoosiers are flipping champs. Let's go flipping. It's mind blowing though because they showed you how many losses Indiana has in their history and they've never ever been in this position except for last year. So it's like this, you're in this two year spurt of like we're living in the twilight zone. The Indiana football is 12, 13 and oh now. And the number one seed in the bracket. It's nuts.
Steve Covino
That went extremely viral.
Rich Davis
They hadn't beaten Ohio State since the late 80s. Oh and 30 again. And I'm not just trying to kiss Dan Byers ass. If Ohio State wins or loses that again, it's, it's not, it's not the national championship, but a great moment for Indiana nonetheless.
Steve Covino
They didn't score at all in the second half, so they ain't winning anything like that.
Rich Davis
Look at, look at that last. All right, so you. Let's say they make that field goal. They, they, they don't miss that chip shot. Which college is interesting because I love how in college you could kick the ball with fields so far left or far right. Like the hash marks are so different, right?
Dan Byer
Yeah, they're so much wider. So it makes it. So you'd probably be better off kicking a 32 yard field goal as opposed to a 27 yarder because of the.
Rich Davis
You can tell that kid it was in the angle was in his head.
Dan Byer
Oh yeah. And he's had issues. He missed two big kicks against Michigan last year. So it is, it is a weakness of Ohio State. And I think that was magnified in that spot of a, of a big game kick that was missed.
Rich Davis
But even if he does make that tie game, it's 13, 13. Hey, then Indiana, then Indiana gets the ball back. And you could just say I don't blame that kid is what I'm saying. I feel like Indiana gets the ball back with a minute and a half, two minutes. I just feel like that game wasn't going Ohio State's either way.
Dan Byer
I've told, I've said this to Sam, I've said this to Beau. Ohio State beating Michigan last week was the biggest win of this year. They needed to beat Michigan Last week I felt even more so than a playoff run. Like they needed to beat Michigan last week. Now to have this game sandwiched in the Michigan game and a potential playoff run.
Rich Davis
You'll take it?
Dan Byer
You're fine? Yeah, I'm totally fine with it. Indiana, I felt it meant way much more to them. It feels like such a backhanded compliment. But I think that that's the reality of it and I think that interview shows it.
Steve Covino
Did you see, speaking of football and kicking and chip shots and all the other stuff Donald Trump put out there, that we should change football recently? The name?
Rich Davis
Yeah.
Steve Covino
Oh, you didn't see that because the World cup draw was announced over the weekend and he was saying that the NFL got it wrong. They should come up with a new name for the sport.
Rich Davis
Any suggestions?
Steve Covino
No, but you didn't see that.
Rich Davis
Trump Ball. Yeah. I mean, this is the kind of discussion people have when they've had five beers and they're just talking about the bones of the sport. I've heard this before so many times. Why is it called football? It doesn't make. It should be called handball. He's not wrong.
Steve Covino
He's not wrong when the. He's not wrong.
Turning into him when you realize and that the rest of the world calls soccer football. He did make that reference over the weekend, so just throwing it out.
Rich Davis
Well, you know what, S, there's still so much more to get to. In fact, the phones are all lit. We're gonna talk some NFL, some college. But let's go to db. We're running late for an update, yo.
Dan Byer
Maybe on another show we could come up with alternate names because handball wouldn't work because, well, they could take the.
Rich Davis
Name handball from handball and then their football becomes handball and then handball.
Dan Byer
Can my nominee Pigs.
Steve Covino
There you go.
Dan Byer
Yeah, how about a game of pigs?
Rich Davis
That'll offend the vegans, though. Who cares about vegans?
Dan Byer
Notre Dame athletic director Pete Bivaca told the Dan Patrick show today. Well, I'll let him tell you on what he thinks about the relationship between Notre Dame and the acc after the ACC in his mind, made an all out push to put Miami in the college football playoffs.
Rich Davis
I have tremendous respect for Miami, you know, great team, great school.
Steve Covino
But we were mystified by the actions.
Dan Byer
Of the conference to attack, you know.
Rich Davis
Their biggest really business partner in football.
Steve Covino
And a member of their conference in.
Dan Byer
24 of our other sports.
Steve Covino
I wouldn't be honest with you if.
Dan Byer
I didn't say that. They have certainly done permanent damage to.
Steve Covino
The relationship between the conference and Notre Dame.
Dan Byer
Strong words from Bivaqua ACC commissioner Jim Phillips released a statement this afternoon saying, quote, when it comes to football, we have a responsibility to support and Advocate for all 17 of our football playing member institutions and I stand behind our conference efforts to do just that leading up to the College Football Playoff committee selections on Sunday. End quote Every goal starts with an assist on and off the field. That's why Haliana and U.S. soccer are launching for the Assist, a celebration of everyday acts of support that help people achieve their goals with iconic brands like Sensodyne, Tums, Advil and Centrum. To learn more, go to halionassist.com Browns quarterback Shador Sanders will be the team starter for the rest of the season, according to head coach Kevin Stefanski. Colts quarterback Daniel Jones out for the year with a torn Achilles T. Higgins in concussion protocol for the Bengals while defensive entry Hendrickson is going to have core muscle surgery. And we have we have a flex alert. Week 16 Sunday Night Football will now be Patriots and Ravens. Bengals and Dolphins moves to one o' clock Eastern. Guys, back to you.
Rich Davis
Thank you db. We got a lot to get to. We'll talk more college and NFL action. And yo, my my story that I want to get to Jackson Dart is this dude kicking it to one of the hotties out there that we all know on social media.
Steve Covino
If you were the young stud quarterback in New York, you wouldn't.
Rich Davis
So we'll we'll explain. There's a lot of fun stories still to get to here on Cavino and Rich. Hang tight. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app.
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New Happy holidays from your pals Covino and Rich Live from Los Angeles, the mean streets of la SA live from the Barrio Fox Sports Radio studio and of course Iowa. Sam is here. What up Sam?
Rich Davis
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Steve Covino
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Rich Davis
Yeah, do you know what the Take a guess. The costume Will Ferrell wore in ELF went up for auction for a charity. Guess how much someone paid for that stupid green Elf Costume. Can I guess?
Steve Covino
Yeah. $300,000.
Rich Davis
I was gonna say like 460,000. 460,000. He heard me say it earlier. Yeah, $320,000. You already knew the answer. Yeah, It's a jerk.
Steve Covino
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Rich Davis
Not tomorrow. That's right. For lunch, right? Elf spaghetti with maple syrup, chocolate and Eminem's. Yummy.
Steve Covino
Enjoy that. And of course, we got Bo Benson on the phones in for the Danny G producer of ours. 87799 on Fox.
Rich Davis
Got his Eagles hat on tonight. He's. He's ready for some domination out here.
Steve Covino
Chargers.
Rich Davis
You think the Eagles got this one bow or what is this? I hope so. It's not looking good if they don't. I was going to say what helped you guys a lot was the Cowboys losing on Thursday night. Yeah, because they gave you a little breathing room. Magic number is 2. And Jaden Daniels is done for the year, so they should be able to get a couple more wins.
Steve Covino
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Rich Davis
What about just a sweet ass?
Steve Covino
Is. I mean. Yeah. That is a given. We're live from the Fox sports radio studio. Like I said, and it's time for our tire rack play of the day. The packers continue their domination of Da Bears.
Rich Davis
4Th and 1 Chicago fake to switch. Bootlegging left. Williams looking to float to the end zone. It's intercepted. Intercepted. Interception. A leaping interception by Keisha Mixon. And there is your dagger.
Steve Covino
That was it.
Rich Davis
That was interesting. Picked Williams on that final drive. You really got the feeling that the Bears are going to tie it up and just. I just.
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I don't.
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Steve Covino
All right. So again, hope you had a great weekend. Hope all your teams won. Steelers, jags, Bills, Texans making a statement. Excited for tonight. Rich will give you his picks on that. We're wrapping up things that made you go, hmm. Any observation you made this week.
Rich Davis
The phones are all lit I don't want to keep people waiting. So let's say hi to. Let's start with Trip in I. You know what? Tripp, please hold. Because he has a topic that I think we got to get into it. It's the Raiders and some shenanigans with the point spread. So hold on. Go to Indy in Rhode Island. What's up, Indy?
Hey, how's it going?
So things that made me go home this weekend, I'm going to have to go with John Moran. This guy, he's getting off the bench in street clothes. He wants to, you know, start talking junk. The guys are on the floor, and I'm not digging it. To me, I just look at it. This guy, he's just trying to prove to everyone that he's not someone that he was trying to be. And sometimes you have to be careful for that, because I feel like he has some imposter syndrome. Yeah. Honestly, John Moran, I just want to. Don't you want to just be like.
Steve Covino
Listen, man, this is here to get back on track and remind everybody that he's a force in the NBA.
Rich Davis
Stop sabotaging yourself. Let's go to Indianapolis and say hi to Brad. What's up, you?
Steve Covino
Hey, B Rad.
Rich Davis
Hey, guys. First of all, I love this show. Oh, thanks, man. As a former radio guy, relatable content in the evening. It's always a good thing. So great job. Thanks, brother. You guys, every single day.
Steve Covino
Thank you, man.
Rich Davis
Couple of thoughts. As a lifelong Indiana fan, you know, when Signetti told the fan base when he got there, he had to change the way they think. Well, that was mostly in Bloomington, but with that win last night or on Saturday, I think he changed the thing of the entire fan base nationwide. And there's a lot of Indiana fans out there, so I think they made a statement. And that Big Ten championship is a lot bigger deal than most people think it is, because that's going to set us up for many years down the road. Honestly, what a morale boost and what a. What a statement by the. By the organization, by the college. As DB rolls his eyes, because he knew, he's like, it's not a championship, guys. Relax. It's not the national championship. Hey, it's a Big Ten championship, and there's a lot of people who wish.
Steve Covino
They could win one.
Rich Davis
I thought of DB over the weekend. Something about Dan Byer came to mind.
Dan Byer
Oh, boy.
Rich Davis
Something that made me go, hm, we'll get to that and more. A lot of NFL, right? That's what we got to get to today. On CNR. Hang tight. Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap.
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You're almost at the finish line.
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Date: December 9, 2025
Hosts/Panel: Steve Covino, Rich Davis, Dan Byer, Bo (guest-in producer), Iowa Sam
This episode of "Covino and Rich" (C&R), part of The Dan Patrick Show, dives into the wild events of NFL Week 14, blending incisive football analysis, playful banter, and notable observations from the sports world. The hosts debate the end of a football dynasty, rising teams, player retirements, controversial officiating, notable upsets, and viral college football moments. They also take calls from listeners and offer memorable takes on what made this week surprising and thought-provoking—aka, "things that make you go hmm."
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On the Chiefs’ Dynasty Floundering:
On Joe Burrow’s Honesty:
On College Football’s Sweetest Viral Moment:
On the Steelers’ Lucky Call:
The episode is high-energy, conversational, and occasionally irreverent, with the hosts riffing off each other, mixing pop culture analogies (“Stranger Things upside down”), and weaving humor into their sports analysis. There’s a readiness to challenge sports orthodoxy—about “sexy” teams, dynasty narratives, and play-calling—while keeping the discussion inclusive for casual and hardcore fans alike.
NFL Week 14 turned the world upside down: old powers (Chiefs, Ravens) faltered, new contenders (Jags, Texans, Seahawks, Packers) rose, and fans were left to ponder, “Is this the new normal?” Add in viral moments from college football and prime sports drama, and you have a week full of things that make you go hmm.
Closing call to listeners:
The hosts invite all to join the “C&R”/FSR community, keep the mailbag full, and rate the podcast five stars—until next week’s chaos.
For more, catch the full discussion on Fox Sports Radio’s YouTube channel or wherever you get podcasts.