C&R - Shovel Surge, Browns Make it Hard, Wrong Sauce

Summary

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The Dan Patrick Show (C&R) – Shovel Surge, Browns Make it Hard, Wrong Sauce

Date: January 27, 2026
Hosts: Steve Covino, Rich Davis, with Dan Byer, Spot, Sam, and guests
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts, Dan Patrick Podcast Network

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Episode Overview

This episode of Covino & Rich (“C&R”), presented on The Dan Patrick Show platform, is full of sports talk, personal banter, and comedic observation on life’s rising costs and workplace weirdness. The main themes include East Coast Snowmageddon with hacks and nostalgia, the dramatic dysfunction of the Cleveland Browns' head coaching search, a hilarious take on job interview demands (including AI-written essays), and the way trivial things like sauce preferences can shape your fate. Plus, the crew hosts a lively sports trivia game and teases STD statistics by college.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Surviving Snowmageddon – Snow Shoveling Hacks & Nostalgia

[02:22–07:16]

• The crew reflects on the East Coast snowstorm, sharing both classic survival humor and inventive new hacks for dealing with shoveling.
• Rich introduces the viral “blue tarp” hack for keeping cars and porches snow-free, which leads into a discussion about future self-shoveling robots, teen hustler nostalgia, and the escalating cost of shoveling jobs.
• Notable quote:
  • “Are we almost to the point...where there’ll be a self-shoveling robot? Gotta be, right?” – Rich Davis [04:56]
• Steve and Rich reminisce about their days as snow-shoveling entrepreneurial kids (“That was my income at times...I would go around the neighborhood” – Rich [05:20]) and how what was once a $20 job is now $50–$60.

2. The Price is Never Right – Everything Is More Expensive

[09:19–13:26]

• The trio vents about the shocking inflation of everyday expenses—kids' birthday parties, fast food, checked bags, event parking, and especially a nice steak dinner.
• Notable quote:
  • “Leaving the house is like every day is a $100-plus between...a gas run, a sandwich...everything’s at airport prices nowadays.” – Steve Covino [09:29]
  • “If your kids are going out to shovel or you have some kids stopping by, $20 ain’t cutting it, dude, because it ain’t getting them anything.” – Steve Covino [10:54]
• Relatable stories, like how Subway’s $5 footlong is now $15, and a “deal” for Sofi Stadium parking being $85, illustrate just how far prices have surged.

3. The Browns’ Coaching Search – Making it Hard (and Weird)

[13:28–22:24]

• Rich and Steve roast the Cleveland Browns for the convoluted, off-putting process of hiring a new head coach—requiring personality tests, essays, and “homework assignments,” which is driving away top candidates.
• NFL and journalism sources cited to confirm several candidates are dropping out due to these demands.
• The team’s AI bit: the show's video producer, Spot, submits an AI-generated essay as a mock application for the Browns’ gig.
• Notable exchange:
  • “They are searching for leadership that aligns talent, culture, and accountability. I, Spot, am prepared to lead that alignment...” – Spot (AI, as read aloud) [20:31]
  • “If you’re a kid in school, how do you ever do homework again? AI just gave you an essay that would get you the Cleveland Browns coaching job.” – Rich Davis [20:56]
• A controversial analogy follows, comparing the Browns (given all their demands) to unrealistic dating expectations—sparking jokes, self-aware pushback, and tongue-in-cheek disclaimers.
  • “Cleveland Browns are the fat chick that’s like, ‘I need a guy that makes six figures, has a big package, and he’s six feet tall.’” – Rich Davis [21:54]

4. Fan Identity – Sports, Celebration, and the Etiquette of “Congrats”

[14:58–16:19]

• The team humorously dissects the social phenomenon of getting congratulatory texts after your favorite team’s big win, even though you did nothing but watch.
• Notable quote:
  • “When your team wins, it’s a cool feeling...you look at your phone, you’re like, ‘Man, I got a ton of messages’...like I worked really hard on this one.” – Rich Davis [16:01]

5. Sports Knowledge Showdown: “Last One Standing”

[28:27–37:41]

• The group continues their tradition of hosting rapid-fire sports trivia, with the competitive trivia game “Last One Standing.”
• Three rounds focus on:
  • Most NFL playoff games played
  • NBA longevity (most seasons)
  • Top-paid MLB players (annual average value)
• Friendly trash talk and tense moments abound.
• Winners:
  • Dan Byer (NFL round)
  • Steve Covino (NBA and MLB rounds), securing his 13th win

6. Job Interview Insanity – Myths, Tests, and the Wrong Sauce

[41:08–45:33]

• The conversation loops back to the Browns and expands to other strange interview tactics, like the infamous “wrong sauce” incident in New York (where a program director appears to judge Covino & Rich solely on whether they preferred Cholula or Tapatio hot sauce).
  • “I said, Cholula. And the guy said, ‘Wrong! Tapatio was the answer.’” – Steve Covino [42:39]
  • Rich insists it meant nothing; Covino is convinced it set the wrong tone.
• They discuss the “coffee test” used by employers to see if interviewees clean up after themselves, drawing parallels to Browns’ bizarreness.
  • “Do you clean up after yourself? It’s a subconscious test.” – Rich Davis [44:42]

7. Teases & Tangents: College STDs and More

[38:11–45:36]

• As the episode wraps, they tease a wacky list of colleges with the highest STD rates and promise to revisit it on a future show.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Browns’ hiring process:
  “The Browns making an unappealing job even that much more of a pain in the ass is SO Cleveland Browns to me.”
  – Rich Davis [19:04]

• On job candidate hoops:
  “Some organizations have to take what they can get and just do their best. They’re making it WAY too difficult, and they’re going to lose a lot of quality people as a result.”
  – Steve Covino [22:06]

• On everything costing more:
  “You go out for a nice steak dinner...what was overpriced used to be forty, forty-five...now seventy, eighty dollars for an eight ounce, like double, it’s a hundred a person.”
  – Rich Davis [13:06]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |------------|-----------------------------------------------------------| | 02:22 | Snow shoveling hacks, blue tarps, snowstorm nostalgia | | 05:16 | Self-shoveling robots and cost of shoveling for teens | | 09:19 | Venting about price inflation on everyday stuff | | 10:54 | Fast food costs, checking bags, pricey parking | | 13:28 | Cleveland Browns’ coaching search gripes & AI essay bit | | 21:54 | Comparing Browns to unrealistic dating expectations | | 14:58 | The etiquette of “Congratulations!” for a team’s win | | 28:27 | Start of “Last One Standing” sports trivia | | 41:08 | Odd job interview experiences & the Cholula/Tapatio story | | 44:38 | “Coffee test” and interview subconscious screening | | 38:11 | Tease: Colleges with highest STD rates |

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Tone and Language

• Conversational, irreverent, and comedic.
• Uses relatable, lightly edgy language, dad humor, and fast-paced banter.
• Sports analysis is paired with pop culture references and personal stories.

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Recap

This C&R episode delivers a high-energy mix of sports chat, everyday gripes, playful personal jabs, and sharp commentary on the absurdities of modern life and job hunting—never shying away from mixing humor and real talk whether about the Browns’ self-sabotage or why your favorite sandwich is suddenly $15.

For those who missed it:
Expect witty observations, surprising trivia, and a send-up of sports and society where nothing is sacred, not even hot sauce or the sanctity of the interview process.

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Transcript

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[Dan Byer]

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[Steve Covino]

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[Steve Covino]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Steve Covino]

Hey, thanks for listening to the Covino Enrich Podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday from 5 to 7 Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.

[Rich Davis]

Find your local station for Kavito and [e-mail] or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. Oh yeah.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah buddy. From the east coast to the west coast, welcoming everybody in between Covino and Rich. Hope you had a great weekend. Pat Seahawks Gaethje Zufa Snowmageddon stayed safe sort of weekend. Shout out to Raptor in New Mexico. Mark James, Smelly, Michelle M. West, Steve Lopez, Matt Timbo, Slice everybody. Chiming in on the live chat. Covino and rich FSR on YouTube.

[Rich Davis]

Did you run some errands this morning? Did you get your bread and milk?

[Steve Covino]

Got my bread and milk.

[Rich Davis]

Get the bread and milk. I gotta get the bread and milk. Bread and milk.

[Steve Covino]

Shout out to Vic DiBetto. Broadcast live in the Fox Sports Radio studios. Kavino and Rich. And we be rocking out the bread and milk.

[Rich Davis]

Bread and milk.

[Steve Covino]

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[Rich Davis]

No, I was gonna say not only bread and milk. Did you see there was a huge influx of people buying marijuana from shops on the east coast? They were saying that, like spikes of people just saying, I guess if I'm stuck home, they're gonna get high. Did you see this or no? Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Steve Covino]

It's a hack that I think originated with the pets. Because if you have a dog and you're trying to take it out, it's so used to that patch of grass, people leave a tarp or some sort of mat and then unveil it so that that grass is clean for the pets to go poo poo peepee in, right? So I think the same rules apply for the car and they're just switching it up and working smarter, not harder.

[Rich Davis]

And how long until we're Done shoveling snow. Like are we, are we almost to the point. If there's little robots that deliver stuff and there's Waymo, Waymo self driving cars that I'm still scared to get him by the way. It's only a matter of time before you go to, you know, Home Depot or Lowe's and they're like, yeah, a self shoveling robot, 500 bucks. Gotta be, right? I mean, you see?

[Steve Covino]

So robots are stealing jobs from teenage kids is what you're saying. That's next.

[Rich Davis]

And then the other question is, what's the going rate? I don't know about you, Dan Beyer. You grew up in a snowy place. Danny G, you were out here in la, you were up in Northern California. You don't count where it snowed. That was like my income at times. Like I would go around the neighborhood trying to shovel people's walkways and driveways. Back then the going rate was 20 bucks. What do you think you'd have to pay a kid now to shovel a big ass driveway in?

[Steve Covino]

At least 60.

[Rich Davis]

That's probably 50.

[Steve Covino]

60, I think. Well, that's including tip.

[Rich Davis]

Back then it was 10 or 20 if it was a short little, you know, old ladies walkway.

[Dan Byer]

If you are. And we're not talking about suburbia, we're talking kind of city where neighbors are relatively close. I still think 20 bucks is sufficient because it probably would take you about 15 to 20 minutes if you had to do someone's walkway, the sidewalk ways and sidewalks. It's probably a pretty good going rate.

[Rich Davis]

That's how I would buy all my video games. I would stop Snowstorm. I was out there at 8am like, let's go.

[Steve Covino]

It's like what you give a kid for a birthday party used to be 20 bucks. Now that going rate is like 40 to 50 bucks. And if they're having to add a bowling alley or a different venue, it might be 60 to 100 bucks. I think it's, it's a little more than double than what it used to be. And I'll tell you what Rich, if we have time this hour, because we got last one standing, we're giving away prizes. We still got to talk about colleges and STDs and more football if we have time. Things you thought you'd never do again because I actually had to shovel. Talk about the weakest timing. I'm out here for work and meetings and to see family and you know, my parents are 70s. I can't say I, I took the brunt of it. But me and my Brother had to shovel today. And I thought I wouldn't be doing that again now that we live in California.

[Rich Davis]

I mean, wouldn't you be a piece of garbage if you made your boomer parents shovel their own walk?

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, like I'm here. But I never shoveled. I didn't shovel when I lived here with them.

[Rich Davis]

Hey, dad. Hey, dad. Go outside and shovel. If you die, you die, I guess. Like, what are you gonna do? Your Dad's in his 70s.

[Steve Covino]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Rich Davis]

Yeah, the Browns. Pro Bowl. The Browns. So the Browns, I would say many thoughts. Did you run the snow shoveling circuit in Iowa? Oh, absolutely.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

I, I, yeah, I would be the guy to do our, our driveway.

[Rich Davis]

I was seasonal, man. I would. That's how I was a little hustler I was trying to make. I was trying to buy Nintendo games of baseball cards. I shoveled snow, I raked leaves. I washed cars like I was.

[Steve Covino]

Now the only hustle Rich does is the dance. That's it.

[Rich Davis]

Now I'm trying to learn the dou. Day 18 of me learning the Dougie.

[Steve Covino]

I actually found audio of Steve Covino's dad yelling at his sons. I thought I told you boys to shovel the rock.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Wow.

[Rich Davis]

Can't believe I had that in the system.

[Steve Covino]

Can't believe that's going way back. Weakest, honestly. Thank God my brother did most of it. But I did have to do that today. And, you know, so did most people around the country. So hopefully you guys are safe and enjoyed the weekend. And you did have that Snowden feeling where you got to watch the games and just chill out and enjoy it and maybe some of the fights, you know, maybe watched a special or two. Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

Before we get to the Cleveland Browns, who, you know, are proving time and time again they're, they're more of, they're one of the more embarrassing organizations in sports. Right.

[Steve Covino]

They're starting quarterbacks. A pro bowler. I'm, it's true.

[Rich Davis]

I did a lot of people chiming in with on the intro about the cost of a kid's birthday party. Now where you're right, it used to be throw 20 bucks in an envelope. But if they have their party at a bowling alley or a slime party or Some place. Oh, at a, like a sky zone. You gotta, yeah, you gotta like throw a kid 40, 50 bucks easy.

[Steve Covino]

It's, it's usually 40, 50 bucks every birthday party my kid goes to nowadays.

[Rich Davis]

What are those things in life that you're just shocked that have gotten so increasingly expensive? I remember when you and I first started doing our show, dude, just.

[Steve Covino]

How about leaving the house? It's like every day is $100 plus between. Yeah, God forbid, you got to make a gas run. Make a gas run and you, you buy some bread and milk, you buy a sandwich. Everything's at airport prices nowadays. Yeah, your lunch cost you 30 bucks.

[Rich Davis]

I thought of something as simple as God bless him, Subway sandwiches. I remember you and I used to go in New York City all the time. I remember they always had that $5 footlong commercial. They had CC Sabathia.

[Steve Covino]

They had like that song had a sweet do do, do five, five dollar.

[Rich Davis]

They in our, in the time you and I have done the show and we've been friends, we used to go get $5 Subway sandwiches here and there. I went to Subway with my kid a couple weeks ago. She's like, dad, I want a sandwich. It was like $15 for a full oak sandwich.

[Steve Covino]

Dude, when I take my. Don't after school. Your kid will go, can we go to Starbucks? Or can we go to Chick Fil A? Right? And kids love canes and love just making a quick stop. That quick trip to Chick Fil A. Just because my kid has a hankering for something to eat after school just to hold her over to dinner time is like an $18 cost a few times a week. Chick Fil a, just an eight piece nugget with a fry and a drink is 18 bucks. Again, we're in LA, it's probably different everywhere. So yeah, just stepping out of the house isn't cheap. So if your kids are going out to shovel or you have some kids stopping by, 20 bucks ain't cutting it, dude, because it ain't getting them anything.

[Rich Davis]

When you travel, you know we're going to San Francisco for the Super Bowl. When you used to check a bag in an airport again, I know time is passing, but they remember the standards. Like 20, 25 bucks to check a bag that so quickly became like 40 bucks. I mean, not that we're paying, we're on the company dime on this one. But when you check a bag on your own, aren't you like 40 bucks? Huh? 40 or 50 bucks to check a bag. You ain't kidding, huh?

[Sam (Producer)]

Really?

[Rich Davis]

Okay, okay.

[Sam (Producer)]

Really quick. You want to talk price increases? How about parking at a sporting event or at a concert? I mean, that used to be what, 30, 35 bucks? And you're like, okay, I got that in the budget. Now. It could cost the same amount as your ticket to get into the show or the game.

[Steve Covino]

I watched it with the famous Weekend. No. Sebastian Maniscalco in his latest special does a whole bit on that. He goes, you know, you go to the amusement park or whatever and they're screaming, $70 for parking. He's like, that's not something you shout. You apologize to somebody for charging that much money for parking.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, and that's. And by the way, if you go to Sofi out here, if you could find 70, good luck. A couple years back, I went with my wife and a couple of you guys went to go see Stevie Nicks and Billy Joel at Sofi. I think the deal I got. When I say deal, deal's like, you have to walk extra, like a little far away. It was like $85. And that was like the deal. Like, we got a deal, guys, 85 bucks to park. I got one more and then we'll move on to football. But if we're venting about pricing, if you go out for a nice steak dinner, I mean, then again, who doesn't like a nice steak dinner? When you think somebody rich, post that.

[Steve Covino]

On social media, you'll get a few people telling you that vegans, not that great.

[Rich Davis]

I'll be honest. There'll be one person that's like, steak. No way.

[Steve Covino]

Vegetarians, Vegans. Yeah.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

I feel bloated after.

[Rich Davis]

Not a fan spot you and I have known for years. But picture me and Covino maybe 5, 10, 20 years ago going out for a steak dinner. Don't you feel like the way overpriced filet or ribeye used to be? 40, 45.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

40 was like.

[Rich Davis]

Like 40 was like, ooh, you're at a nice steakhouse. 45, you go to Del Frisco's or maybe you go to 45.

[Steve Covino]

Maybe go to Mastros or like the. Really?

[Spot (Video Producer)]

For a. For a 8, 8 to 12 ounce filet.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

The Ruth's Chris, their prices were.

[Rich Davis]

Ruth's Chris was like 38 to $45 and.

[Steve Covino]

And maybe a little less.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, you go to like a Vegas or New York City or LA Steakhouse. Now 70, $80 for a 75, easy. For an eight ounce, like double, it's 100 a person.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. At this point.

[Rich Davis]

Anyway, I digress. Enough venting.

[Steve Covino]

But I digest.

[Rich Davis]

I just. Hey, if you try to 100 for your entree, that'll be $94. Thank you, Sam. All right, let's turn the page to the Cleveland Browns. Now, if I were to ask you, of all the coaching carousel jobs we've talked about, Dan Byers been busy? Because I feel like every day over the last week or so, there's been this coordinator, that coordinator, this head coaching job. This guy's interviewing Dan Byers.

[Steve Covino]

Did Dan Beyer ever give us the timestamp of who congratulated him first on the big Seahawks win over the weekend?

[Dan Byer]

I did not.

[Steve Covino]

Because I'm dying to know how quick Rich was to the jump. Just to get the breath.

[Rich Davis]

I let it breathe. I wanted to let him.

[Steve Covino]

You had to let it breathe. Yeah. I think that's part of the etiquette.

[Dan Byer]

This is Pacific Standard time. Rich Davis, 7:01. Steve Cavino, 654.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Wow.

[Dan Byer]

Seven minute gap.

[Rich Davis]

I would argue. I would argue you didn't let it breathe. I did let it breathe.

[Steve Covino]

I'm like, all right, let him celebrate a little bit. High five his kid, man. You know, give him a hug around a little bit. I wait a little bit.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

All right. Because I know he said on Friday when we were making our picks that he doesn't touch his. His phone is away.

[Steve Covino]

He doesn't his phone.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Touch his phone. Yeah. So you gotta give him a chance to, like, catch up.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, exactly. And maybe he paused the game, which I. I wasn't really factoring that much into. Cause I imagine he's on the edge of his seat. But you never know where they are in the game.

[Rich Davis]

You know, it's a wild phenomenon when you are a fan of a team and your friends and family, and especially Dan Byer, who, you know, big in the sports world. When people know your team. I do find it sort of funny how when your team wins, we all get congratulatory messages as if we did something. Yes, but I like football. No, it's nice. It's nice. But I'm saying, like, Danny, if the Raiders win a big game, or the Dodgers or Lakers, isn't it funny how people, like, congrats, Danny, like, you did it.

[Steve Covino]

They should, though.

[Sam (Producer)]

I paid for season tickets in Oakland for 10 years. I do find that some of that's my money.

[Rich Davis]

I do find, like, Dan Byer probably just had all these congrats messages. And it is funny because he's a big fan. He's a sports guy. But it is funny how we get messages as fans.

[Dan Byer]

It also, I would say, like, if you were. Let's just say I lived in Seattle or was a native. I'm sure fans are sending texts to each other, but I think it's because we're remote and so we live in a spot that we aren't necessarily from or where the team is from. So there's a lot of different fandoms, so it's easier to point out. Ah, Rich is a Mets fan. Cavino's a Yankees fan. Danny's a Raiders fan.

[Rich Davis]

You know, it is funny, though, because you are so identified in your circles of friends. Buy those things. So when your team wins, it is a cool feeling. You look at your phone, you're like, man, I got a ton of messages. And it's like all the randoms from work, like, congrats, man. Like, I worked really hard on this one, so congrats to you.

[Steve Covino]

All season.

[Rich Davis]

He rooted hard. He rooted hard. Now, we talked about the Cleveland Browns. Now all these coaching carousel moves. Who's going where, who's taking what job. We talked about the appealing ones. Harbaugh jumped on the Giants one. For all we know, he would have stuck around for the Bills one had it happened earlier. Bills, hot job opening. Danny G. Your Raiders with Tom Brady at the helm. And it seems like, you know, Mark Davis gives some power to who it is. And you got Mendoza lined up. You have Brock Bowers, you have Genti. You just need some. Some pieces. That, to me, is an appealing opening. I think Miami, I know they made their decision.

[Steve Covino]

Vegas as a. As a city, but I think Miami.

[Rich Davis]

As a destination, as a place to live. I know, yeah, that. That was taken by Green Bay's defensive coordinator. Correct. So these openings, and they're being filled, and the coaching carousel continues. From what we're reading, the Cleveland Browns, which we all agreed was one of the positions that doesn't feel that appealing, like, going to Cleveland. No offense, Cleveland. That itself is like, all right, I'm going to Cleveland.

[Steve Covino]

Fun times in Cleveland again, Cleveland. There's Jingles on YouTube that we've been singing for 20 years that just paint the most terrible picture of Cleveland.

[Rich Davis]

And I'm sure it's the lovely city.

[Steve Covino]

I mean, we've had fun times out there.

[Rich Davis]

Let me read this message that we saw on social media. Danny G. Hit us up with this one. Cleveland, which again, and you're not even sure what you're doing at quarterback because you're not sure if Shador is the guy. You still have desean Watson technically on the roster. You don't know what's next for Cleveland, there's so much uncertainty. It's like you have Myles Garrett and the rest is like what now? And a decent lots of criticism and a decent defense. The Browns get this, are facing criticism for their unusual head coaching hiring process. Candidates are being asked to take personality tests, write essays. Write essays and complete homework assignments, something no other team requires. NFL's Tom Pelissero Pelosaro notes, this may be why top candidates like Jesse Minter, Mike McDaniel and others have pulled out of wanting to coach Cleveland because they're making this like a really assignment driven, like do your homework thing now. I'm a big fan of going.

[Steve Covino]

There's an update though, Rich. Just a few hours ago, Jags OC Grant Udinsky withdrew from the process because it's such a pain in the ass and not appealing.

[Rich Davis]

And the thing is, I get it, you want to go into and I'm a big advocate of going into a meeting or a presentation or anything prepared. Know where they went to college, know if they're married, know what their sports alliances. I feel like these things help you along in personal and social and work settings.

[Steve Covino]

Do they have kids? Cheese up and schmooze?

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. But I mean like the Browns making an unappealing job, even that much more of a pain in the ass is so Cleveland Browns to me. So we had our video producer Spot go into AI Though we are robot free at iheart. Isn't that the slogan?

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Guaranteed human.

[Rich Davis]

Guaranteed. We are guaranteed humans, everybody.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

ChatGPT is a very good tool.

[Rich Davis]

I'm a. I'm a human being. But our video guy Spot put in to AI an essay if he were to apply for the Cleveland Browns job. And it's amazing what comes up.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

I think I may get the job.

[Rich Davis]

Let's fuck. Can you read a paragraph?

[Steve Covino]

You're the only guy applying if everyone's backing out.

[Rich Davis]

Let me tell you, Spot, apply with this essay.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Read everyone a quick ready? Okay, here's what I got. The Cleveland Browns are a franchise defined by resilience, loyalty and unfinished business. Few teams in professional sports carry a fan base as passionate or as patient. That's true that reality demands leadership that understands pressure, accountability and culture as much as play calling. I believe I am the right coach for the Cleveland Browns because I bring clarity, credibility and a people first approach to an organization ready to turn belief into sustained success.

[Rich Davis]

Wow, Spot, I think you got the job.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

I could go on. It's incredible.

[Rich Davis]

Give me one more line.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Let me just give you my summation.

[Rich Davis]

So what I'm saying is Coaching candidate. Just throw it into AI and send it off.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

The Browns are not searching for a miracle. They are searching for leadership that aligns talent, culture, and accountability. I spot. And prepared to lead that alignment. With the right structure, belief, and commitment, the Cleveland Browns can move from promise to permanence. And I am ready to coach that transformation.

[Dan Byer]

Give me Spot.

[Steve Covino]

Spot.

[Rich Davis]

That's some good alliteration in there.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Thank you.

[Steve Covino]

I tell you a great essay, Spot.

[Rich Davis]

If you're a kid in school, how do you ever do homework again? This is the democracy of society. AI just gave you an essay that would get you the Cleveland Browns coaching job.

[Dan Byer]

That's all you need.

[Rich Davis]

Good luck asking a kid to read. You know who jostled the limb again? Phineas.

[Steve Covino]

And a separate piece.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, good luck reading books and doing book reports. Popping an AI we're doomed. Sam nods his head every time we do this. Sam is a anti AI guy, huh?

[Steve Covino]

I'm seeing it unfold right in front of us. So you know what it is? People are barely lady dating. And I say disrespectfully, okay, but when you're dating, like, a pretty ass average person and they have all these, like, unrealistic demands, it's like, you're really not that awesome to be barking all these orders.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, you ever see, like, a fat girl on TikTok talking about what she demands out of a man? It's like, he needs to make six figures. He needs to do this. He needs to have this big package in his pants. Feels.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. It's like, come on, Cleveland, be happy. You're getting some qualified people. Stop making it so difficult.

[Rich Davis]

Yo, Camino. High five, bro. Cleveland Browns are the fat chick that's like, I need a guy that makes six figures, has a big package, and. And he's six feet tall.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

With analogies like that, you may need my say, Rich.

[Steve Covino]

Now, some people, right, and some organizations have to take what they can get and just do their best. They're making it way too difficult, and they're going to lose a lot of quality people as a result. I mean, and if you don't believe us, just listen to the update. So many people are backing out because of these demands.

[Rich Davis]

Can't say fat girls anymore. Is that what you're getting at?

[Steve Covino]

I have no comment.

[Rich Davis]

No, no comment. Okay.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Not tying myself to that.

[Rich Davis]

That was all. That was all Rich Davis. I was just reading a statement that spot put into A.I. sorry. All right, listen, we have more Kavito and Rich, you know we're going to do next a game that gets Kavino nervous. A game that gets us all nervous. Dan Byers here. So the challenge is to beat his ass. I mean he's already won this weekend with the CMC Hawks. Last one standing. This is the game that sweeps the nation. We are put to the test. There's a clock involved. It's nerve wracking and you can win a prize. So if you want to play 87799 on Fox, we do it next right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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[Rich Davis]

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[Steve Covino]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Steve Covino]

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[Podcast Narrator]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Steve Covino]

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[Podcast Narrator]

What if mind control is real?

[Rich Davis]

If you could control the behavior of.

[Steve Covino]

Anybody around you, what kind of life would you have?

[Podcast Narrator]

Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car?

[Sam (Producer)]

When you look at your car, you're.

[Rich Davis]

Gonna become overwhelmed with someone.

[Sam (Producer)]

Such good feelings.

[Podcast Narrator]

Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you?

[Dan Byer]

I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused.

[Podcast Narrator]

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[Dan Byer]

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[Podcast Narrator]

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[Steve Covino]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Steve Covino]

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[Steve Covino]

Yup, I do. We do it every Monday.

[Rich Davis]

Last one standing. Come on.

[Steve Covino]

You have five seconds to battle for your sports trivia life, man.

[Dan Byer]

Ah.

[Sam (Producer)]

Yeah.

[Dan Byer]

I don't got it.

[Steve Covino]

Put your electronic devices down and pick your sports knowledge.

[Rich Davis]

It's CNR's last one standing. Last one standing. I gotta give a shout out before Danny G. Takes over to Gabe on our in show YouTube chat. He said I said it. So he said, you don't have to worry about you saying it. I'll say it. He said, guys, the Cleveland Browns are the torta of the NFL. With all these demands, what are we doing?

[Steve Covino]

Tortas are in high demand depending on the person.

[Rich Davis]

That's true. Okay. All right, let's get into this. You had to go back to it.

[Sam (Producer)]

Yeah, exactly.

[Steve Covino]

Rich couldn't let it go.

[Sam (Producer)]

Triple down on it. All right, I have four. Yeah.

[Dan Byer]

Wow.

[Sam (Producer)]

Four categories. Three helpings of it. Thank you, Rich. I have four categories ready to go if needed. A tiebreaker. Each contestant gets five seconds to stay alive in the route. If you run out of time or answer incorrectly, Iowa, Sam will take you out with his buzzer. No, do not want to hear that.

[Dan Byer]

Stop it.

[Sam (Producer)]

All right. We keep battling until you are the last one standing. If you win two of the rounds, you're the top dog. Here are the contestants. 12 time winner, Steve Cavino.

[Steve Covino]

Hey, hey.

[Sam (Producer)]

He live in Jersey right now In Los Angeles, 18 time winner, Rich Davis.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, buddy. Let's go.

[Sam (Producer)]

And the champ is in the house. 38 time winner, Dan Byer.

[Dan Byer]

Hello.

[Steve Covino]

Ain't no one stopping this guy.

[Sam (Producer)]

We're gonna go to the studio lines right now to see who's playing for a CNR prize pack, a CNR mini turbo football and a koozie. First one through was Matt in Georgia.

[Rich Davis]

Matty. Matt.

[Steve Covino]

Hey, Matt. What's going on, fellas? First time winner, Matt, right here.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, I love it.

[Steve Covino]

I love it.

[Sam (Producer)]

Oh, boy. Matt is in south Georgia. What do you do for a living there?

[Steve Covino]

I'm a sales manager for a security camera company. I run A telemarketing room.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Oh, nice.

[Steve Covino]

All right.

[Sam (Producer)]

By the way, Spot is the fact checker during this game.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

I hate it so much.

[Sam (Producer)]

A lot of anxiety with him over there. So be patient as he checks his answers. When I say your name, the clock is going to start. Here we go. Category number one, always on top. You have five seconds to name an NFL player who has played in the most playoff games in league history. NFL playoff games, career leaders. All right, Covino, you are up first, starting right now. Go.

[Steve Covino]

Gotta get Brady out of the way. Yeah.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Number one. 48.

[Sam (Producer)]

Numero uno. All right, we go to Rich.

[Rich Davis]

Patrick Mahomes.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Patrick Mahomes is not on my list yet.

[Sam (Producer)]

All right, Byer.

[Dan Byer]

Peyton Manning.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Peyton Manning is on my list with 27.

[Sam (Producer)]

Boom.

[Steve Covino]

That Joe Montana.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Joe Montana.

[Dan Byer]

Yep.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

27.

[Steve Covino]

23.

[Sam (Producer)]

Back to Covino.

[Steve Covino]

Jim Kelly.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Jim Kelly. Not on the list.

[Sam (Producer)]

All right, Byer.

[Dan Byer]

Ben roethlisberger.

[Steve Covino]

Ben. Yep. 23.

[Sam (Producer)]

Matt.

[Steve Covino]

Jerry rice.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Jerry rice.

[Steve Covino]

Yep.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

29.

[Sam (Producer)]

Byer.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Dang.

[Dan Byer]

Adam vittateri.

[Sam (Producer)]

Yep.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

32.

[Sam (Producer)]

Nice pull mat.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Ramon Smith. Not on my list.

[Sam (Producer)]

Oh, Byer gets that round.

[Rich Davis]

Wow.

[Steve Covino]

Byer riding the Seahawks burst of victory. Wow.

[Sam (Producer)]

Spotty. Some of the other names we might know on that list.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Let's see.

[Rich Davis]

Charles Haley on the list.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Say again.

[Rich Davis]

Charles Haley on the list.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Charles Haley. No, Kelsey's on the list.

[Sam (Producer)]

Trav.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Let's see.

[Steve Covino]

Elway.

[Rich Davis]

That's an interesting list. By the way, what was the bottom. What was the cutoff as far as games played?

[Spot (Video Producer)]

It was 22. Was the cutoff.

[Rich Davis]

Mahomes has 21.

[Steve Covino]

Oh, you were chilling.

[Rich Davis]

My guess in the first round was off by one game.

[Steve Covino]

I'm surprised, Rich, because as a 49ers guy, Jerry Rice should have came to mind immediately. Well, I wanted Montana and Steve Young.

[Rich Davis]

Can I tell you, I thought my first answer was like, the gimme. I was like, all right, I'll get my homes out of the way. 17 and 4 in the postseason. Yeah.

[Sam (Producer)]

There were a ton of players tied for 22.

[Dan Byer]

The other thing, in Rich's defense, Jerry Rice wasn't on their first two super bowl title teams.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, he was not there until he wasn't there for the Dolphins one or the first Bengals one.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Correct.

[Steve Covino]

So was Montana or Young on that list?

[Dan Byer]

Montana.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Yeah.

[Sam (Producer)]

Yeah, and Steve Young was the cutoff, actually.

[Steve Covino]

Oh, wow.

[Sam (Producer)]

All right, we go to the second category. Marathon Miles, you have five seconds to name an NBA player who tops the list for most seasons played in a association in history. Going to take the top 25. So NBA players with the most seasons played in history. Okay, Matt, we go in reverse order. So you're going to go first, starting right now. Go.

[Steve Covino]

Vince Carter.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Vince Carter.

[Steve Covino]

Yep.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

22.

[Sam (Producer)]

Good answer. Buyer.

[Dan Byer]

LeBron James.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Number one. 23.

[Steve Covino]

Number one.

[Sam (Producer)]

Rich. Three.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Two.

[Rich Davis]

Dwyane Wade.

[Steve Covino]

Nope, not at all.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Sorry, Richard.

[Steve Covino]

I don't know.

[Sam (Producer)]

Covin.

[Steve Covino]

Kareem.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Kareem, you have 20.

[Sam (Producer)]

Yeah, good one, Matt.

[Steve Covino]

Bill Russell.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Bill Russell. Wait, hang on. Sorry. Something happened. Not on the list.

[Sam (Producer)]

Oh, sorry. Buyer, Kevin Durant.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Kd.

[Sam (Producer)]

He's a point.

[Steve Covino]

Not on the list.

[Sam (Producer)]

No, wait. Top 25.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Not on. No.

[Steve Covino]

Okay, that was.

[Rich Davis]

That was my second guess. Dv.

[Steve Covino]

So I would have been over.

[Sam (Producer)]

He must. He must be right underneath the top 25. Then Covino is the last one standing in that.

[Steve Covino]

Oh, yeah. What about Vince? Carter's got to be on there. He said it right now. Yeah. Oh, he said it. All right, cool. How about. Is Westbrook up there? Because he's been around for a while. A lot of names of me.

[Sam (Producer)]

There's a lot of players tied for 19.

[Steve Covino]

Duncan's got to be up there.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Chris Paul.

[Steve Covino]

Oh, yeah, just made the list.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Dirk Garnett. Kobe's on there. So a bunch of names.

[Steve Covino]

I'll take it. Let's go.

[Sam (Producer)]

All right, so Byer and Covino on the board. We go to the third. Noah will be playing baseball is the name of it. You have five, five seconds to name an MLB player who is top 20 in annual salary. So the AAV category, annual salary, will take the top 20, starting with Covino right now. Go.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Aaron judge at number six with 40 mil.

[Sam (Producer)]

Rich.

[Rich Davis]

Kyle Tucker.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Kyle Tucker at number two with 60 mil.

[Sam (Producer)]

Yes, sir.

[Dan Byer]

Buyer, Mike Trout.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Trout at number 11 with 35.

[Sam (Producer)]

Matt.

[Dan Byer]

What do you say?

[Sam (Producer)]

What's that?

[Steve Covino]

What did he say?

[Sam (Producer)]

One more time, Matt.

[Steve Covino]

Ronald Acuna.

[Rich Davis]

Ronaldo Acuna. Okay, but he said Jose Red, Doria.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Acuna. You're not on the list.

[Dan Byer]

Sorry.

[Steve Covino]

Sorry, man.

[Sam (Producer)]

All right, back to Covino.

[Steve Covino]

Juan Soto at 51, I believe you're absolutely correct.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Third on the list.

[Rich Davis]

Not Dante, but Boba Shet.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Boba shet at 42 million. With number four, fire.

[Dan Byer]

Yamamoto.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Yamamoto. Is he not on my list?

[Dan Byer]

20.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Not in the top 20.

[Sam (Producer)]

Covino.

[Steve Covino]

Do deferred payments count here? I think they do, right? So Shohei's at 70. He's gonna be a number.

[Sam (Producer)]

Annual value. Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

Shohei ohtani. Shohei rich.

[Sam (Producer)]

3, 2.

[Rich Davis]

I would imagine Bryce Harper still somewhere on this list.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

He is not.

[Sam (Producer)]

Oh, this is Covino's w today. His 13th win and last one standing is Bellinger.

[Steve Covino]

Top 20. No. Good. I'm glad it ended right there.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Let's see, rounding off.

[Rich Davis]

Don't move Mickey or Freddy, because those guys are the under.

[Sam (Producer)]

They move down the list.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

We had Wheeler at 5, 42 million.

[Rich Davis]

You know what I was going to say? I was going to say one of the Mets deals, but they're expired now. Like, remember when they signed Verlander and scherzer for like 40 something each? But those are expired deals. Those don't count anymore.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Let's see, you had deGrom at 37 million, Garrett Cole at 36 million.

[Steve Covino]

I had Cole written down, but I was going Bellinger first.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

Now, at number eight, he had 36.4 million, so expired.

[Sam (Producer)]

All right. Well, Matt in Georgia, we appreciate you listening and playing the game.

[Steve Covino]

Game. Thanks for letting me in. Hey, later, buddy. Enjoy. Who do you think you are? I am. Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

Great job.

[Steve Covino]

Thank you.

[Sam (Producer)]

Start your day by shoveling snow. End your day by winning. Last one standing.

[Steve Covino]

That's always an honor. It's always an honor.

[Rich Davis]

I hope you slip on the ice. Hope you slip on your ass on the ice.

[Steve Covino]

Thanks. Appreciate it. You know what we still have to do? We still have to get to the top 20. Danny G. Found a list as our executive producer. He's like, yo, man, we got another game we might want to play if we have time, Rich. Because we still got people calling in about the worst interview situation a la the Browns. But there's a list of the top 20 colleges with the highest STD rates, and he wants to see what our guesses are for that. And he's going to, you know, give off the top five or whatever. Okay.

[Rich Davis]

All right, so we'll talk. Hey, this is great, guys. We'll talk. STDs and colleges coming up and.

[Steve Covino]

And more Foosball.

[Rich Davis]

And I do want to continue that Cleveland Browns conversation for a second, but let's go to Dan Byer for an update. Db, anything doing. What's up, man?

[Dan Byer]

Yeah, the bunch going on in terms of the coaching circles in the NFL, we'll get to that in a sec. But Shador Sanders has been named as Drake Mays replacement on the AFC roster for the Pro bowl game. So the Browns rookie gets that nod. Lions quarterback Jared Goff replacing Seahawks quarterback Sam Darnold on the NFC roster. Here's some of your coaching news from today. The Athletics Diana Rossini sang. Philip Rivers has withdrawn his name from consideration for the Bills head coaching vacancy. Jaguars offensive coordinator Grant Udinsky withdrew his name from consideration for the Browns head coaching job now. Rams passing game coordinator Nate Shieldhouse is getting a second interview with the Browns and has an interview scheduled tonight with Buffalo. Bill spoke with Broncos quarterbacks coach Davis Webb today and he'll meet with the Raiders tonight. Raiders met with Bill's offensive coordinator Joe Brady earlier today. Cardinals Speaking with Rams OC Mike LeFlore and former Dolphins defensive coordinator Anthony weaver for the second time. Charges officially announced the hiring of Mike McDaniel as their offensive coordinator. NFT Senior Bowl Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia measured at 5ft 9 and 78 inches. He was listed at 6ft during his time at Vanderbilt. Giants signed off fielder Harrison Bader to a two year deal worth more than $20 million. Some NBA action this afternoon. Hawks rallied to beat the Pacers 132 to 116. Off day for the Sixers. They fell to the Hornets 130 to 93. Tyrese Maxey just six points. Arizona the unanimous number one in this week's AP Top 25 Men's College Hoops poll. Nebraska reaching his high. The undefeated Cornhuskers coming in at number five. First time program history guys, back to you.

[Steve Covino]

Thank you. Dan Byers in his Seahawks victory. Getting ready for the Super Bowl. Now we got more Covino and Rich. Like we said, we'll name some colleges. But the last story we were talking through was this Brown situation and how they're making it difficult, a difficult interviewing process. As far as head coaching, what are some other hard questions you got at an interview or worst interview experiences? We'll take your phone calls and feedback next. 87799 on Fox. We are Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. Covino and Rich. I'm in Jersey. Rich and the crew. Best crew in the world. Back on the west side. Live from the Fox Sports Radio studio. Facing a peak season, looking for a new team member. Workforce solutions from Express Employment programs is making hiring easier. Visit expresspros.com find the office and see how Express can help you hire smarter and faster. And Sam is playing burning for you because we are going to try to fit in some STDs to the show. By the way, for the record, I scored a 1600 on my STDs. So I'm good.

[Rich Davis]

Okay, perfect.

[Sam (Producer)]

Some hot STD talk.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, yeah. But wrapping up this Brown situation, if you missed the stuff people are dropping off this application, this hiring process because the Browns have all these demands to be their head coach, you have to submit a 12,000 word essay, background checks.

[Rich Davis]

Like you said before, they're gonna have to call Express Employment Pros because I don't know if anyone's gonna want this job with the pain in the ass process they're making people go through.

[Steve Covino]

You know, I hate those weak ass questioning situations where they're like, tell us your weak spot. You know, where an interviewer asks you something weird. Like, what would you consider? Oh, I would say.

[Rich Davis]

I would say. I would say abs. I should do more abs.

[Steve Covino]

Rich and I were up for. I've told this story before, I believe, to you guys on Fox Sports, but Rich and I were up for a morning gig in New York City. And the program director there found out that, you know, we went from the east coast to the west coast. And he's like, all right, guys, so you live out in California now? I got one question, but my first question for you, you guys, and this is for, like a big gig in New York. He goes, cholula or Tapatio. And honestly, I knew, depending on what I said, we're either going to set this conversation in a good tone or a bad tone. And I looked at Rich. Rich was like, tapatio, I'd rather tap a tia. And hey. And I said, cholula. And the guy said, wrong, wrong. Tapatio was the answer.

[Rich Davis]

I'm like, how is there a right.

[Steve Covino]

Answer for hot sauce? And honestly, I feel like he didn't like us after that. You didn't give us a chance after that.

[Rich Davis]

You've brought this up on multiple occasions. I haven't thought about that since he asked. I don't think that meant anything.

[Steve Covino]

But I know that set the tone where he was like, these aren't my kind of guys.

[Rich Davis]

You didn't like Cholula?

[Steve Covino]

We answered his, like, litmus test the wrong way.

[Rich Davis]

They're both good.

[Steve Covino]

Like, that's how I felt.

[Spot (Video Producer)]

They're both fine.

[Steve Covino]

Hot sauces, dude, I'm telling you. Like, he had an answer in mind. Like, he was a tapatillo guy. The fact that I said cholula in his mind, you know, he. He, like, disassociated with us. Like, these guys aren't cool.

[Rich Davis]

Next.

[Steve Covino]

And I was like, come on, man.

[Rich Davis]

Weak. Have you encountered any odd, like, job interview test? See, we had a test. I'll be honest. We did have a test. When we would hire interns and producers and stuff, we would have someone sit in on our show and I would check how engaged they were because there would be people that had a great resume. Resume. But they sat there and they just had, like a boring face the whole time. And when you do a talk show in Sports or entertainment? You want the people that are part of your team to be in it. I would see how. How engaged and the vibes they brought while they were in the room. Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

And don't think that I look. I mean, women are the greatest.

[Rich Davis]

I'll be honest. That's why I love Die with Sam. That's why when we. When Ramos left and they were like, who do you guys. Who's the candidates to. To be the guy that runs the board and the show? I was. Sam brings an energy that other people didn't.

[Steve Covino]

You don't think that people throw out trick political and religious questions just to see where people stand in the dating world? Absolutely.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, I have a buddy that says he poses as a liberal on dating sites because he's a conservative and he's a cop. And he's like, it's not a fun time. So.

[Steve Covino]

No, but they throw those questions out there just to see how you answer and to see if you're a qualified candidate.

[Rich Davis]

I got one. Have you guys heard of the coffee test? Coffee. I'm sorry, you're here in Jersey coffee.

[Steve Covino]

I know the Ariel test is better.

[Rich Davis]

That's when the girl opens the door.

[Steve Covino]

Come on, make that coffee to go.

[Rich Davis]

Let's go. Hey, the coffee, quickly. I know you got to run a minute. The coffee test is simple. You go to a job interview, and someone, whether an assistant or someone, offers you a cup of coffee. And you have your coffee during the job interview. The employer watches what you do with your cup of coffee, if it's a disposable cup. Some companies have, like, you know, silverware and stuff in the kitchen. Do you clean up after yourself is like a subconscious test. It's called the coffee test.

[Steve Covino]

Like, and that's what the Browns are doing. They're throwing all these crazy things out there to see where you stand and make it difficult, by the way, you know, since we're running out of time, I'm dying to know what the number one college is as far as STDs.

[Sam (Producer)]

You guys want to hold the STDs until tomorrow?

[Steve Covino]

Well, Rich holds them all the time.

[Rich Davis]

We can hold it, Danny. I mean, what a tease. We'll do that tomorrow, so.

[Steve Covino]

All right, fine. You don't want to just get the.

[Rich Davis]

Number one colleges to colleges to not send your kids to. We'll go to that tomorrow.

[Steve Covino]

Exactly. Okay.

[Rich Davis]

All right. But, yeah, if you have any other tests, like the coffee test, let us know at Covino and Rich, because I do think how you pick up after yourself is important. Honestly, really? It's like you ever go out to some after a dinner with someone, they don't clean up after themselves themselves. It's a turn off. We'll see you guys later. Arriva dirchi, baby.

[Steve Covino]

See you in the promised land. Have a great night.

[Rich Davis]

Goodbye.

[Steve Covino]

Later.

[Podcast Narrator]

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[Steve Covino]

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