C&R - Unproven QBs & John Harbaugh Fired!

Summary

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The Dan Patrick Show: C&R – Unproven QBs & John Harbaugh Fired!

Date: January 7, 2026
Hosts: Covino & Rich
Guest Analysts: Danny G, Isaac Loenkron
Location: Live from Las Vegas & Los Angeles

Overview of the Episode

This episode dives into two headline sports stories:

1. The unusual state of the 2025 NFL playoffs, with a slew of unproven, first-time postseason quarterbacks, and a breakdown of how playoff experience might shape the outcomes.
2. The breaking news that the Baltimore Ravens have fired long-time head coach John Harbaugh, launching immediate speculation about Harbaugh’s future, the Ravens’ direction, and parallel shifts among other NFL coaches.

Along the way, Covino & Rich riff on Vegas vibes, “beginner's luck” both in football and in life, and inject plenty of humor and casual banter fitting their style.

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Key Segments & Discussion Points

1. Live from Vegas – The Local NFL Buzz

• [03:40] The crew sets the scene from Las Vegas, noting the rising local energy around the Raiders, particularly with intrigue over rookie QB Fernando Mendoza ("Fernando!" ABBA jokes abound).
• Fans’ playoff hopes are crushingly real, boosting the city’s football spirit.

2. The NFL’s New-Look Playoff Quarterbacks – Parity & Inexperience

• [06:44] Rich notes the meme-worthy stat circulating: This postseason’s #1 and #2 seeds have quarterbacks who’ve never won a playoff game. Specifically:

  • AFC: Bo Nix, Drake May
  • NFC: Sam Darnold, Caleb Williams

• [08:26] Covino: “But that’s what’s so cool about the NFL... the parity, the turnover, watching kids step up. It’s so cool to see. Yeah, it’s their first time.”

• [09:36] Rich runs down playoff win records for all 14 postseason QBs, quizzing the crew for perspective:

  • Aaron Rodgers: 11–10 in playoffs (“He’s played in 21 playoff games.”)
  • Josh Allen: 5–8
  • C.J. Stroud: 1–1
  • Justin Herbert: 0–2
  • Brock Purdy: 4–2 (“Been to a Super Bowl.”)
  • Matthew Stafford: 5–5 (Super Bowl winner)
  • Jalen Hurts: 6–3

• [12:20] Covino makes the point: “Aaron Rodgers may play a factor because he has so much experience. I don’t think nerves will be a factor for a guy like him.”

Notable Quote:

“There’s regular season speed, there’s playoff speed, and then there’s Super Bowl speed. People get up for different level of games – every play matters more and more.”
— Rich (15:30)

3. Does Playoff Experience Actually Matter?

• The conversation weighs “talent vs. experience”:
  • Is pure skill enough, or do playoff nerves and pressure swing the outcome?
  • Rich: “That could be the great regulator, though.” (11:03)
  • Covino: “Both things matter... our favorite reference: Sugar Ray Leonard said, ‘Is it your day or not?’ All these little things matter.” (16:49)

4. BREAKING NEWS – John Harbaugh Fired

• [12:59] Breaking News Alert (delivered by Isaac Loenkron):

  “Multiple outlets report the Baltimore Ravens have fired head coach John Harbaugh.”
  Immediate reactions—shock, speculation about landing spots, and what it means for the coaching carousel.

• [13:18] “Harbaugh: is he going to be a hot commodity or what?” (Rich)

• [13:27] Danny G: “He fired himself from Baltimore just to get a different job.”

• General consensus: Harbaugh “will be hired within 48 hours.”

• [22:36] Panel wonders if this is “the Ravens choosing Lamar Jackson over Harbaugh”:

  “Is this the Ravens choosing Lamar Jackson over Harbaugh?” – Isaac Loenkron (22:45)

• [24:57] “Does Harbaugh want to jump back in immediately, or take a year off for a cushy TV job?”

  “He has the flexibility to choose an attractive opening... he could take a year off, people will line up to throw money at him.” – Guest Analyst (24:57)

5. NFL Coach Tenure, Relationships, and Fresh Starts

• Paralleling sports breakups with relationships:
  • “Harbaugh is a great example of, you know, that girl that was a really good girlfriend... but just not the one for you anymore.” (Rich, 23:41)
• Coaching “fit” and market attractiveness (Raiders, Giants, Falcons, etc.) discussed as Harbaugh suitors.

6. Beginner’s Luck – On the Field and in Life

• [17:35] Covino & Rich have fun with “beginner’s luck”:
  • Which first-timer QB might “light it up”?
  • Personal stories—Rich beams about nailing his first TV audition and, humorously, his “first time” (17:56).
  • Covino reminisces about catching a dozen fish his first time fly-fishing (20:14).
  • Covino: “Will Drake May experience that beginner’s luck, that first-time luck? Will Bo Nix step up in the same way?”

7. Names, Generational Change, and the NFL’s New Faces

• [31:15] Rich points out how the current crop of NFL QB names—Bo, Drake, Caleb, Sam—sound like “kids on my little league team,” unlike the “old guy” names (Joe, Steve, Dan).
  • [32:10] Isaac throws in Tyler Loop, linking QB’s missed kicks to coaches’ fates.

8. Talent, Patience, and the Trevor Lawrence Discourse

• [46:20] Rich cross-references how long it took great QBs (Montana, Elway, et al.) to win their first Super Bowl, making a case that “we are terribly rude and impatient with Trevor mother-effing Lawrence. He’s in Year Five and we’ve given him no patience.” (46:47)
  • Covino: “There was speculation he didn’t get enough criticism sometimes, but yeah, a little too impatient.” (47:18)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On Playoff Experience:

  “There’s always going to be an L in there... When you make the playoffs a lot, unless you win a Super Bowl.”
  — Rich (10:09)

• Breaking News Shock:

  “Whoa... Multiple outlets report that the Baltimore Ravens have fired head coach John Harbaugh.”
  — Guest Analyst/Isaac Loenkron (13:01)

• Las Vegas Vibes:

  “Microphone throttler, we’re here in Vegas and you can already tell the buzz from the locals... the Raiders feel like there’s some promise.”
  — Rich (06:44)

• On ‘Beginner’s Luck’:

  “Will Drake May experience that beginner’s luck, that first-time luck?... Will Bo Nix step up?”
  — Covino (19:53)

• Coaching Parallels to Relationships:

  “Harbaugh is a great example of that girl who was actually a really good girlfriend in your life, but she just wasn’t the one anymore.”
  — Rich (23:41)

• Generation Shift:

  “Bo and Drake and Caleb and Samuel... these are the kids on my little league team. Now Joe, Steve, Dan—those are the old guy names.”
  — Rich (31:15)

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Notable Segments (with Timestamps)

• [03:25] Snoop Dogg/Steve Kerr meltdown story teasers, setting the comedic tone.
• [06:44] Fernando Mendoza/ABBA “Fernando” fan singing—Raiders fan culture in Vegas.
• [12:59] John Harbaugh fired—instant reaction and early speculation.
• [17:56] Personal “beginner’s luck” anecdotes—classic Covino & Rich self-parody.
• [31:49] “Names as identity” riff—touch of cultural commentary, lighthearted.
• [35:36] Listener call-in—more fan takes, furthering the inexperience-vs-experience playoff QB debate.
• [46:20] “Trevor Lawrence defense” segment—historical context for QB development curves.

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Final Thoughts & Takeaways

• NFL Playoffs Feel Wide-Open:
  The unpredictability around unproven QBs makes for a wild, up-for-grabs postseason, where raw talent, “parity,” and possible rookie heroics challenge conventional playoff wisdom about experience.
• Harbaugh’s Departure Sets Off Tremors:
  The firing, surprising for its timing and the coach's tenure, throws the NFL coaching market into disarray. Will Harbaugh take another job instantly? Who will the Ravens—and other “waiting” franchises—target?
• “Beginner’s Luck” Narrative Fits Both Life and Football:
  The show is at its best merging sports analysis with relatable, hilarious analogies about first times and unexpected success stories.
• Generational Shift in NFL Casts:
  The league’s power has passed from well-worn names to a youth-driven, new era—a theme highlighted with warmth, playful banter, and some nostalgia.

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For Further Listening

• Don’t Miss:
  • [12:59] – The instant, in-the-moment reactions to the Harbaugh firing.
  • [31:15, 46:20] – Cultural musings and QB patience debate.
  • [17:56, 20:14] – Host stories on “beginner’s luck” for relatable laughs.

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Flowing conversation, great chemistry, and sports insight laced with comedy and authenticity. Recommended listening for NFL fans and anyone interested in the shapes of new eras in sports.

Transcript

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[Covino]

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[Rich]

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[Covino]

Hey, we are live from Vegas.

[Rich]

Yeah, buddy.

[Covino]

Las Vegas is Kavino and Rich and Terry Fader, the Blue Men group. And happy to be here live from Vegas.

[Rich]

Oh, hey, Chris angel live from the.

[Covino]

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[Rich]

Hey, what's up, buddy?

[Covino]

Yeah, you never know who's gonna stop by if you miss any of today's show. You want to catch the pod, Search Covino and Rich wherever you get your podcast. And after the show, the podcast always goes up. Danny G. Puts up the best of every day. Rate it, 5 stars, follow Rate and review. Or better yet, you could watch what you hear. See us live in Vegas right now at Covino Enrich FSR on YouTube, hit the follow button and let's be rocking out. Let's go.

[Rich]

Hey, so much to get to today. There's a great Snoop Dogg Golden State warriors moment with Steve Kerr.

[Covino]

We're gonna get to Steve Kerr.

[Rich]

Losing it, but I think it would be.

[Covino]

I feel Steve Kerr, though. I'm, like, easily agitated, too. Everybody bothers me, man. That guy had enough.

[Rich]

Can I tell you?

[Covino]

He had enough. Steve Kerr had enough.

[Rich]

And you get to that point, honestly.

[Covino]

I want to karate kick everybody in my way.

[Rich]

Yeah. But here's the problem.

[Covino]

Let alone you miss a call and then you're breaking my beanbag. I don't know what I can say on Fox Sports.

[Rich]

I'm doing my best beanbag boy over here.

[Covino]

I want to elbow someone in the nose, and that's how Steve Kerr feels.

[Rich]

I get it. I get the frustration, but I feel like there's some people that you have no reason to be frustrated, like easily agitated. Kavino's aggravated right now. What did you do? You woke up this morning, you had a breakfast on the company dime. We had a couple meetings.

[Covino]

I woke up this morning, got some gabagool. I don't know about you. Yeah, no, we're here having fun, for sure. But that's what is agitated. When people get in the way of your fun. You don't think Steve Kerr is blessed? That guy has been winning his whole life. But, you know, people get in your way and aggravate you, you become easily agitated, especially when you're trying to start off the new year on the right foot. And you saw him blow his lid. Is that the expression?

[Rich]

Well, lid's better than what I thought you were gonna say.

[Covino]

You saw him have a freak out.

[Rich]

Freak out last night. That was like a macho man.

[Covino]

We'll talk about it. But first and foremost, mostly, again, we're live in Vegas, but back in la. I want to welcome the super producer that runs the show, Danny G. Danny.

[Rich]

G. What's up, buddy?

[Isaac Loenkron]

Happy Tuesday.

[Covino]

He's on the phones at 87799 on Fox. We got Iowa Samuel. How do you studio. He's our sound architect. He's our zany pal who does a stellar job, incubus style.

[Rich]

If you want to see Iowa Sam described in a video, go to my Instagram. Rich Davis. I was trying to record some stuff in a studio yesterday, and I look out the window and Iowa Sam's doing that thing where he looks like he's rowing a boat by the window and then he pretends he's going down a st.

[Covino]

I wouldn't be surprised if I was Sam, like, rode a canoe to work.

[Rich]

I mean, it's been raining so much here.

[Danny G]

Like, I could canoe to work.

[Covino]

Yeah, he might have one.

[Danny G]

Austin Powers is where I learned that.

[Covino]

You know, of course Spotty boy is on the videos.

[Rich]

Hi, Spot.

[Covino]

Again. You can see what you hear. Covino Enrich fsr. And it's just a lot of fun. Thanks for being part of it. We appreciate you. You're gonna hear from Lohan Kron from time to time. He's got your updates and broke Mahomes showborn. Mahomes will be here with trivia questions later today. So it'll be fun.

[Rich]

Hey, Danny G. I think I have an opportunity for you to show off your deep singing pipes at some point soon. Have you seen Raiders fans singing ABBA Fernando?

[Isaac Loenkron]

Oh, of course. Yeah. This has been going on for weeks.

[Rich]

But I. But I saw the video you sent us, and it's a compilation of all Raiders fans getting really pumped about Fernando Mendoza.

[Covino]

And I'm like, imagine one dude outside.

[Isaac Loenkron]

The stadium, rich in a parking lot there at Allegiant. One stadium. One stadium fan comes out of the Porta Potty singing it.

[Covino]

I can hear Danny G only singing like Luther Vandross or, I don't know, like, hey, hey, hey, hey. Smoke weed every day. That's really the only thing. Barry White, maybe. Yeah, Barry White. There you go.

[Rich]

But microphone throttler, we're here in Vegas and you could already tell the buzz from the locals that, you know, the Raiders feel like there's some promise. There's. There's a buzz in the air. I know it's more of a touristy town, but I've seen a couple Raiders people already looking p. So we'll talk some of that. But, Danny G, you hit us up with the fact that I did my own little extra due diligence and looked up some playoff performance records because there's a meme going around. And I know we live our life based on memes. The one seeds and the two seeds this year in the NFL postseason. If it wasn't screwy enough, if it wasn't already a little wonky, where you're like, what teams are good? Who's. Who's ready to bring it?

[Covino]

Wonky.

[Rich]

Would you believe that?

[Covino]

By the way, that's a really white guy word. Wonky.

[Rich]

Yeah. Yeah. You told me I'm your favorite wonky, right?

[Covino]

I don't know. Yeah, he's my favorite wonky.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

I. I never heard a brown guy say wonky. Little wonky. Never heard.

[Rich]

Never. Never.

[Guest Analyst]

Not.

[Covino]

No, no, no.

[Rich]

Latino dudes. Never. Wonky.

[Covino]

Got me on the wonky tonky maybe once in a while.

[Rich]

Little wonky.

[Covino]

It's like when our buddy said hubbub the other day. I'm like, hubbub? Who says hub Fatos don't say hubbub.

[Rich]

So you can make a big hubbub about the wonkiness of the 1 seeds and 2 seeds having never won a playoff game. Bo Nix and Drake May, over in the afc, neither have won a postseason game. And over in the nfc, Sam Darnold and Caleb Williams, man, how cool. Never won a playoff game. So.

[Covino]

But that's what's so cool about the NFL. And as you've been saying for years, we made fun of you, Rich. But you're so right. The parody, the turnover. Right. Of new quarterbacks and watching these players develop, watching these kids step up, it's so cool to see. So, yeah, it's their first time.

[Rich]

I want to go around the room. And this is not a quiz. You're not going to be judged. There'll be no report cards. But I Cross referenced all 14 quarterbacks. Okay. That are in the playoffs this year.

[Covino]

All right.

[Rich]

Just to talk about playoff experience. Because while you might say, dude, you know, like the Broncos or the Bears, some of these teams just look better. Yeah. But when you have zero experience in the form of a goose egg in the wind department when it comes to postseason games, then you throw like an Aaron Rodgers in there. I would love for you to start with that. I'll go through the AFC first. You got Drake May and Bo Nix. Neither have got their first ever postseason win. I want to start with Aaron Rodgers. Take a guess. I don't want Danny Spot anyone. Take a guess. How many postseason wins do you think Aaron Rodgers has? These guys have zero.

[Covino]

Man, that's tough.

[Rich]

I know I'm picking on the spot.

[Covino]

So he has more experience, for sure. I mean, 20 something years more experience. See, man, how many playoff. How many playoff wins?

[Rich]

Yeah, I'll give you this. He. I'll give you a hint. He's played in 21 playoff games.

[Isaac Loenkron]

Oh, okay. I'm going to say half of those, then.

[Rich]

He is 11 and 10 in the playoffs. Aaron Rodgers won a Super bowl, and he has won a postseason game 11 times.

[Danny G]

I was going to guess 11 if.

[Covino]

You had come to me.

[Danny G]

Really, because I'm a Packer fan. I was like, it's probably 10 or 11.

[Rich]

Yeah. So 11 wins for Aaron Rodgers. He's 11 and 10. I mean, think about it. When you make the playoffs a lot, unless you win a Super bowl, there's always going to be an L in there. I know that sounds like an obvious statement, but like, Josh Allen, what do you think his record is? Because Josh Allen's never made it to the super bowl, but he is in the playoffs every year, which means you're going to have some L's in there. What do you think? Josh Allen's.

[Danny G]

Let me guess. I would say he has four playoff wins.

[Rich]

No, three. Three. Three playoff wins.

[Danny G]

Three playoff wins.

[Covino]

I'm going to say I'll go three through about three.

[Isaac Loenkron]

I'm going to.

[Rich]

Josh Allen's five and eight. Yeah. So five and eight. And then that's why when you look at experience, you got to decide, how much do you think that matters to you? Because you might say, dude, it doesn't matter. Some of these other teams are just better. Drake May and Bo Nix are on two teams that are. I mean, arguably just better than the other teams.

[Covino]

Both things could be true. There could be better teams, but experience.

[Rich]

But that could. You know what that could be?

[Covino]

Could help Aaron Rodgers.

[Rich]

That could be the great regulator, though.

[Covino]

Well, yeah, yeah. Mount up.

[Rich]

I mean, it really could be. Honestly, when you're talking about, yeah, this team's just more talented, but this quarterback's played in two, like, almost two dozen playoff games. And the other quarterback, like C.J. stroud, C.J. stroud, everyone's saying, ooh, Aaron Rodgers at home. Playoff. Aaron Rodgers vs. C.J. stroud. C.J. stroud is one in one in the postseason. He's been there. He's won a game. But one in one, Aaron Rodgers is like, yo, I've been there 20 more times than you. Kidding. 11 and 10. Josh Allen, 5 and 8. Trevor Lawrence. Josh Allen's 5 and 8. What do you think? Trevor Lawrence is in the postseason. He had an atrocious game. If you remember, he had one bad game.

[Covino]

He has, like, one playoff win.

[Isaac Loenkron]

One and one comeback against the Chargers. Right?

[Covino]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rich]

One at one and one for Trevor Lawrence. So one and one. Oh, I wasn't thinking of him. I'm sorry. The atrocious game last year was by the 02, Justin Herbert. So now you're saying. All right, Justin Herbert. Oh, and two. Stroud, one and one. Lawrence, one and one. Yeah.

[Danny G]

Lawrence's one win was the massive collapse by the Chargers.

[Rich]

Sorry, Isaac. Yeah.

[Danny G]

When they were up 27 to 7, I believe.

[Rich]

So that's his one. Still too soon. Still too soon.

[Covino]

But does. Does Trevor Lawrence's one win matter anything against Josh Allen's five?

[Rich]

That.

[Covino]

That's really what you're saying? You know, I think Aaron Rodgers may play a factor because he has so much experience. I don't think nerves will be a factor for a guy like him.

[Rich]

I have a question for you.

[Covino]

He still has a lot to prove, I think. Yeah, there's a clean slate here. But it all comes down to Isaac Lonecrow and what they're capable of.

[Rich]

Isaac Lonecrown's a man of integrity and wisdom.

[Guest Analyst]

You obviously don't know me that well, but.

[Isaac Loenkron]

Yeah, Andy's a Chargers fan.

[Rich]

Not much style. What is he a man of?

[Guest Analyst]

Oh, guys, I'm sorry. No, no, no, Guys, I'm sorry. We actually. No joke. We have breaking news right now. Seismic news that I have to duck in here.

[Rich]

Let's go.

[Covino]

Let's do it.

[Rich]

Whoa.

[Covino]

Breaking news from Fox Sports.

[Guest Analyst]

Multiple outlets report that the Baltimore Ravens have fired head coach John Harb. Wow.

[Covino]

Wow, man.

[Rich]

Luke better send him an Edible Arrangement. Damn.

[Isaac Loenkron]

You know, Tom Brady better get on a private plane right now.

[Rich]

Damn. Harbaugh, Is that going to be a hot commodity or what?

[Isaac Loenkron]

He will be hired in 48 hours, I think.

[Rich]

You think Harbaugh's already. Like, he's that level.

[Covino]

Put money on it, can you? We're here in Vegas. 48 hours. You think he'll be hired already?

[Danny G]

He fired himself from Baltimore just to.

[Rich]

Get a different job. Yeah.

[Covino]

I bet you Tom Brady will jump on a call with him. Somebody will for sure.

[Rich]

All right, so Harbaugh's fired.

[Covino]

That's big news. Thank you, Isaac.

[Rich]

Wow. ILO breaking in, and I was just talking about how great he is, and he brings us this great update.

[Covino]

I should have stopped at Ilo's the man. He's the man of. He's just the man.

[Rich]

So, Isaac Loenkron, let me ask you. Isaac Loincron, you're a guy that's called games. I know you're a broadcaster. You've done play by play, color commentator, you've done it all, correct?

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah, just ask my.

[Rich]

Nevermind. When you say there's a big difference in the level in which you call game, whether or not it's like some game that no one cares about versus a game that's like televised and everyone's watching, what do you say? Even if it's a little subconscious, doesn't it affect your nerves a little bit?

[Guest Analyst]

That's a great question. I think it differs from broadcaster to broadcaster. For me, it actually doesn't because I've run the gamut from sell out 70,000 foot stadiums to literally 12 people there. For me personally, it's more about the quality of the game than it is the hype going in. But that honestly differs from broadcaster to.

[Rich]

Broadcaster and from player to player.

[Guest Analyst]

Yes, it should be big no matter what the situation is. But for a lot of people, sometimes they're kind of looking at the clock and mentally planning dinner.

[Rich]

Yeah, I've heard broadcasters, I've heard program directors, that's like the boss in our radio world say, listen, the only difference between being on the air in Los Angeles or New York compared to Roanoke, Virginia or Poughkeepsie or something is the amount of people around the antenna. And that's the only difference. Do what you do. But I've also heard NFL players and baseball players, basketball players, the pros say, hey, listen, there's regular season speed, there's playoff speed, and then there's super bowl speed. People get up for different level of games, whether it's subconscious, whether they realize it or not, there's just a different level of like, every play matters more and more.

[Covino]

And I think, and absolutely, that's advantage.

[Rich]

That's advantage. Like Aaron Rodgers, that's advantage. Josh Allen, that's advantage. Matthew Stafford. And if you want to go the nfc, you have Caleb Williams and Sam Darnold who haven't sniffed the W in the postseason. Brock Purdy's 4 and 2 and he's been to a Super Bowl. Matthew Stafford's 5 and 5, he's won a Super Bowl. Jalen Hurts 6 and 3 in the postseason and he's won a Super Bowl. And Jordan Love one and one. So Bryce Young obviously making his debut in the playoffs, but I don't know. To me.

[Covino]

All right, but let's just say, and I'm, I'm just saying this for conversation's sake, let's say The Chiefs made it into the playoffs. They hobbled in somehow. Just because they have that experience, you're going to give them some sort of edge. You know damn well their team wasn't, you know, capable. Regardless of the experience and the wisdom or been there, done that.

[Rich]

It's funny you would say that if the Chiefs had somehow hobbled in and made it towards the very end or something. Let's say they.

[Covino]

Even though I get what you're saying, I'm just. I got to throw that in there for sake of conversation.

[Rich]

You know how sometimes when it's a veteran team with veteran leadership and, you know, whether good starting pitching in baseball or a couple stars in the NBA, the goal is like, just make the postseason and then these guys know to step it up. I. I'm not saying Aaron Rodgers is going to make a run because that team's not great, but I would not be shocked.

[Covino]

I wouldn't be shocked.

[Rich]

Would you be shocked if Josh Allen.

[Covino]

You know, Josh Allen is composed. I'm not saying these things don't matter. What I'm saying is all of these things matter. It could be, you know, our favorite reference when we interviewed Sugar Ray Leonard, name drop, years ago, he talked about just biorhythms. When you wake up, is it your day or not? You know, how are you feeling? Like all these little things matter.

[Rich]

These things all matter for sure.

[Covino]

So the tone of the game, how does this start?

[Rich]

So, but here's our fun of the game. Here's our fun. Covino, Rich twist on this.

[Covino]

All these things matter because a lot.

[Rich]

Of guys are first timers. A lot of guys have not got that W yet in the postseason again.

[Covino]

Drake May and Bo Nixon, afc. Sam Darnold and Caleb Williams in the nfc. First timers.

[Rich]

I got to ask, what have you done in your life where the first time you were like, wow, I. I must have got lucky. I nailed it the first time. I have. I have one dirty example and one professional example. When I lost my virginity, whoa. Remember being like, I'm doing pretty good.

[Danny G]

Really?

[Rich]

I remember being proud of myself.

[Guest Analyst]

I remember you telling me that. Oops.

[Rich]

Yeah, listen, I was.

[Isaac Loenkron]

Didn't he give you a gift basket?

[Rich]

Ilo I.

[Guest Analyst]

You know, he said, yeah, Rich.

[Covino]

That's what happened since Rich.

[Rich]

I know, but I feel like I had beginner's luck there. And here's a fun one in the world of broadcasting. I went on my first audition, you're.

[Covino]

Saying young little Dicky Doo laid it down.

[Rich]

Teenage me.

[Covino]

Yeah, was.

[Rich]

I look back and I'm Like, I'm proud of you kids.

[Covino]

Yeah. All the years I've talked to you, I'm not sure I knew that story.

[Rich]

Other. Beginner's luck.

[Covino]

You know what happens? All the. All the smutty, dirty stories, they creep back when you're in Vegas, that's which.

[Rich]

Is the Vegas vibe.

[Covino]

You start thinking those things.

[Rich]

Beginner's luck. I mean, I went on my first TV audition, and it was for some corny thing on Nickelodeon, and I got it, and I thought, oh, my God, this is gonna be easy. And then I didn't get anything. I didn't get anything for the next 10 years.

[Covino]

It's like the Cal Ripken, Derek Jeter sort of story where you jump into the league and you think the rest of your life's gonna be that way.

[Rich]

Yeah, you win. You win the championship your first year, you win a World Series or a Super bowl your first year.

[Guest Analyst]

Dan Marino going to the Super Bowl. What would. What Nickelodeon show is this, by the way?

[Rich]

I was doing?

[Covino]

Oh, he was Steve from Blue's Clues.

[Rich]

Isaac. I was the guy in between all the shows that was like, coming up next on Nickelodeon, Keenan and Kel. And it was just me on screen with spiky hair.

[Guest Analyst]

Like, seriously, what year was this?

[Rich]

Because I probably watched you 2000 and 2001.

[Guest Analyst]

Wow. Is that on YouTube?

[Rich]

You could find it. I'll text you something during the break.

[Covino]

What the hell are you doing watching Nickelodeon?

[Guest Analyst]

Good for you.

[Covino]

In the early 2000s. You're my age.

[Rich]

Look at you. Isaac's tabs on his computer right now are John Harbaugh and Rich on Nickelodeon.

[Guest Analyst]

You're right.

[Rich]

They literally are.

[Guest Analyst]

I'm not making that up.

[Covino]

But, yeah, I see what you're saying. Like, you know, Will Drake may experience that beginner's luck that first time luck, you know, Will Bo, Nick step up in this way? You know, Rich, I have to credit our buddy Len, my girlfriend's dad. Len, who listens on 99. Nine in Boise, in Idaho, he took me fly fishing. And I'd never gone fly fishing. I'm in the water. I'm wearing. What do they call?

[Guest Analyst]

Waders?

[Covino]

I'm in there like. Like, swimwear. I'm in there not knowing a damn thing. And he's, you know, showing me the ropes.

[Rich]

By the way, you fly fishing reminds me of, like, remember when Paris Hilton in the 2000s, they had that show where she did, like, oh, it's very much like Simple Life. It was exactly like you fishing reminds me of Paris Hilton on the Simple Life.

[Covino]

Oh, it was comedy. It really was. But he was very patient with me. And I'm worried about my hair and I'm like, I don't know what I'm doing.

[Rich]

What did you say before? Vatos don't say fly fishing. No. They don't say hubbub, hubbub, hullabaloo. They also don't fly fish.

[Covino]

Yeah, I don't know. I mean about those fish, though. But I'm out there in Idaho fishing, and I don't know what I'm doing at all. My first time, and dude, I caught 1212 that day. On my first day, Camino fed the village more than anyone else there. You know, I don't know if that's beginner's luck or maybe I'm just the Roy Hobbs of fly fishing. I felt like I put the fly in fly fishing that day.

[Rich]

It was just fishing before you went.

[Guest Analyst]

Right.

[Covino]

It was just fishing. And they were like, yo, it's fly fishing now. So anyway, you know, first time, beginner's luck. It did happen. It's the Allah. You remember when Mr. Miyagi spent his whole lifetime trying to catch that fly with the chopsticks? Yes. Daniel LaRusso did it first time.

[Rich]

So here's my question to the FOX Sports Radio Nation. If you have a story where you were like, first time's the charm. First time, good luck. And then which quarterback in the NFL that is yet to win a playoff game do you think has that beginner's luck? Is it Drake? Maybe. Is it Caleb Williams who comes out in their first postseason game and lights it up? It's a good question. And by the way, if you're just joining us, not only are we talking NFL wild card, big news. Another head coach. Ouch. John Harbaugh, fired by the Ravens and Danny G. Danny G. Believes that in 48 hours the guy's going to be doing interviews and have a new job.

[Covino]

Yeah, I'm sure he's not worried. And, you know, he cares. I love that. That behind the scenes footage they showed last week, when he's at the bar, the team's at the bar, and he realized they still have a shot and they. They're celebrating like the dude cared. They just had a bad season.

[Rich]

You know what? You know, it makes me think about.

[Covino]

It was a weird season. Even Lamar Jackson said weird. The whole season was just a little off for them. I don't know if you want to point the finger at him, but he's available.

[Isaac Loenkron]

Covina. When we filled in for Dan Patrick a week or so Ago, we talked about the rumors that were coming out of Baltimore fast and furious about how Lamar maybe was on the outs with the OR organization because of some of those reports. One report being from a longtime Baltimore reporter. Is this the Ravens choosing Lamar Jackson over Harbaugh?

[Covino]

Oh, wow. It very well might be. You know, you heard some weird rumbles like that, Danny. Even Lamar, when he reflected on the season, it did sound strange. So for that move to be made, I think you're onto something.

[Rich]

Are you saying with Lamar and Derek Henry in that style, offense, that. But, Danny, do you think the Ravens might be leaning towards, like.

[Covino]

Yeah. If something wasn't vibing, maybe that's. That's what wasn't vibe.

[Rich]

You've heard Colin talk about it, like, the trend towards, like, you know, like a creative offensive type of guys, Right?

[Isaac Loenkron]

Yep.

[Rich]

That. That might be the move for. For the Ravens, but interestingly enough, we always tie things to relationships because sports and relationships have so many commonalities. Harbaugh is a great example of, you know, that girl, that she was actually a really good girlfriend in your life, but she just wasn't the one anymore. And you, you're like, yeah, you know what? We're gonna break up. But, you know, I don't wish any harm. Like, you, you were a good girlfriend, just not the one for me. I don't think anyone's saying, like. Like, Harbaugh is the type of guy that someone else will want. You're right. Immediately, like, this is. This is interesting. I just wonder, does Harbaugh want to go somewhere else immediately? If you were a head coach in the NFL, Covino, Danny G, you got.

[Covino]

To take that opportunity while it's there.

[Rich]

But would you, you know, a lot of head coaches, like, I'm going to take a year off and then I come back, or if something's in front of you now and there's seven vacant, six other vacancies. Now, are you. Are you intrigued out the gate, or do you say no, I need a minute, man. I've been coaching this team for a decade plus. Easy. Was he one of the longest tenured coaches, right?

[Isaac Loenkron]

He was.

[Guest Analyst]

He was. Right. By Mike Tomlin.

[Rich]

Yeah. Because I was going to say he was coaching the Ravens when they beat my 49ers and Kaepernick was the quarterback.

[Covino]

So it's been like, you know, it's been a while.

[Rich]

It's been easily over a decade. The hardball. Think of that, Isaac. The hardball. Since then, Jim Harbaugh has gone to Michigan, won a title, had some drama and now he's already like into a tenure in Los Angeles with the Chargers. Meanwhile, his brother's just been chilling in Baltimore the whole time and he has.

[Guest Analyst]

The flexibility to choose an attractive opening which could be the Raiders, the Giants, some of the others may be not so attractive, but also he has the flexibility that if he, what if he does what you said, if he wants to take a year, he's going to have people lining up to throw money at him for a cushy TV job in the meantime.

[Rich]

Wow. That's the novelty of a guy of that stature. He's a Super bowl winner.

[Isaac Loenkron]

Think about this.

[Covino]

Options, man.

[Isaac Loenkron]

Ilo just said Raiders, Giants. If Vegas lured him there and he was interested in picking his quarterback and all that, who's the other coaches in the AFC West.

[Guest Analyst]

Exactly.

[Isaac Loenkron]

Think about it.

[Guest Analyst]

Two hard bowls a year.

[Isaac Loenkron]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

Spicy.

[Guest Analyst]

But he has the flexibility because aside from the Giants job is attractive, but others aren't necessarily that attractive. So he has the flexibility.

[Rich]

If you have an opportunity to go somewhere where you're like, oh, that's a quarterback I could work with. That's a team that's trajectory is upward, I think, you know, no offense, Danny. I think the Raiders have nowhere to go but up. And now they're going to have Mendoza, they have Bowers and Genti. And like we talked about, the Raiders are like, you know, they need to revamp both lines. But they, but they're not maybe as far away as you think. Right.

[Isaac Loenkron]

If they, if they spend their money wisely in free agency and the Giants.

[Guest Analyst]

Are farther along than the Ravens because of the quarterback, the running back and the pass rushers.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Isaac Loenkron]

Yep.

[Rich]

Interesting. Well, listen, your feedback at Covino and Rich at Fox Sports Radio, we'll, we'll, we'll talk more about this experience. And of course Harbaugh, the big news of the day, what happens now?

[Covino]

And the Rando question based on the first timers looking for their first playoff win, their first appearance in the playoffs, was there a time in your life where you experienced beginner's luck? First timer, you rolled up and it was like you've been there, done that, like you've been there before. You were just the natural at it. We'll take your phone calls and your feedback next. 87799 on Fox, it's Covino and Rich live from Vegas.

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[Covino]

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[Covino]

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[Rich]

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[Rich]

I have two dumb observations. One, I'll say for later, it has to do with Tom Brady. But you know how you talk about how your names sometimes age you? When we were kids, think of the quarterbacks. Joe Montana, Steve Young, Dan Marino, Bernie Kozar out of the Boomer Esiason. The names were like now considered, like older guy names.

[Covino]

Phil Sims.

[Rich]

Phil Philip Sims. You know, you talk about guys like that now when we just name those names, it dawned on me that it's like Bo and Drake and Caleb and Samuel. Like, these are like the kids on my little league team.

[Covino]

Like Sam was an old guy's name.

[Rich]

Now it's now again.

[Covino]

Yeah, now. Yeah, now. Steve, our name. And Rich, they sound like old guy names. You're right.

[Rich]

And love Jordan.

[Covino]

Jordan. Love Jordan.

[Rich]

Jalen.

[Covino]

Jordan.

[Rich]

Bo Drake. If you coach, these are. This is your roster for any little league or pony ball or anything. So I got a just a coming of age with names.

[Isaac Loenkron]

I got a first name for you guys.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Isaac Loenkron]

Tyler. As in Tyler Loop.

[Covino]

Oh, man. You know, we were talking about him off the air. Did he cost Harbaugh the job? That's a really tough question because there's probably a lot of truth to it.

[Rich]

Do you believe in the sentiment that whoever lost that game, coach was out no matter what?

[Covino]

Yeah, kind of. Because how do you let him go if they make the playoffs there?

[Rich]

Because they started terrible. And you could argue that they battled back to find a way to.

[Covino]

You know, which is ironic, too, because who was one of the first guys there to console young Tyler Loop? It was Harbaugh.

[Rich]

Yeah. But you know what? Maybe Harbaugh wanted a fresh start. And he's like, deep down inside, like, you know what?

[Covino]

It's how the cookie crumble was. But, you know, I think there is truth to that. And your thoughts on that as well. 877-99-FOX. Danny G. What are your thoughts on that? Yeah, I.

[Isaac Loenkron]

You know, you guys were telling me, well, Tomlin might have been out, but there were rumors that Tomlin might have been wanting one foot out the door there for a fresh start somewhere. You guys saw him do the gorilla pounding on his chest and then blow that hard kiss to the camera. Right. Because he's been hearing hate for how many seasons in a row?

[Rich]

I interpreted that chest pound and the kiss as an F you to everybody.

[Isaac Loenkron]

That's how I took it, too.

[Rich]

Yeah. Did you take it that way, too? He looked at that camera like, yo, every critic, he might have been talking to us and Colin and Dan and Stephen A and McAfee and anyone that's on radio or TV, he was probably looking all bump, bump, bump, bump, F you.

[Isaac Loenkron]

Well, and there were. There were some Pittsburgh fans who have booed him over the last couple of seasons. There's some media there that have been harsh towards him. And what does he do? He wins every single season. But when you can't get over the hump constantly, the fan base starts to get frustrated. And that's what's gone on there in Pittsburgh.

[Rich]

Yeah, I mean, it's. It's. It's like when. When things aren't that bad in life, at a job, in a relationship anywhere, it's hard to pull the plug on something when you're like, that's all right.

[Covino]

So Loop cost Harbaugh his job, but he kept Tomlin's job, which is even more ironic. Him missing kept Tomlinson.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

Interestingly, it wasn't Aaron Rodgers winning. It was. It was. It was him. Yeah.

[Rich]

But I'll be honest. I think as much as Lamar is fun to watch, and who doesn't love seeing Derek Henry bust open for, like, 50 yards at a time here and there, I think the Aaron Rodgers making a postseason run, and it could be so cool you know, it's interesting, especially when we talked about the playoff experience. To tie it back to our first conversation, when you have C.J. stroud and that defense that Houston has on the other side of the ball, very little experience. DeMarco Ryan as a head coach, little experience in the postseason. And then on the other side of things, you have Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers. It's the opposite. It's almost an abundance of experience in big games. Both. Both have been there, done that.

[Covino]

So it's going to be fun to see. Will the new blood be victorious or will the experience overcome? We'll see. And your first time is a charm. Phone calls. They're coming in at 87799 on Fox. Lots of moving parts today. Let's take a quick phone call now. And we got Isaac with your update. Who do we got?

[Isaac Loenkron]

Danny G. Let's start with Oregon. Gunner. Speaking of new age first names.

[Covino]

Hey, Gunner.

[Rich]

What's up, man?

[Caller Gunner]

How's it going?

[Rich]

What's up, bud?

[Caller Gunner]

Happy New Year. Hey, I just wanted to say, I have to say, Rich. Go Hawk. What an amazing game by my Seahawks. Sorry about your Niners, dude.

[Rich]

Your teams, your team's defense, if they play like that in the postseason, I'm not quite sure who could really score on them. I know the Niners are beat up and I'm not making excuses. Your defense seemed lights out. Every yard the 49ers gained in that game. We've all talked about how it felt like they had a fight for every yard. So if they, if they rest up even more and come out against whoever it might be, the Bears, the Niners, the Eagles, whoever they get in the next round, it's going to be a battle. Your team's good, man.

[Caller Gunner]

As long as the ginger Jesus doesn't give it away. I don't have no faith in that.

[Rich]

Yeah, that might be.

[Caller Gunner]

One thing that I think one team that's underrated right now, that I think is a great team ready to go and make a run is the Falcons. I think that's a great landing spot for any great head coach right now going forward.

[Rich]

The Falcons ended strong. You could argue they under delivered early. So Falcons is going to be a really intriguing spot.

[Covino]

And there's that story with Matt Ryan possibly becoming the what, president of football operations.

[Rich]

He wants to be the Tom Brady of the Falcons, essentially.

[Covino]

I mean, it's a great blueprint to follow if we have time. We'll talk about it later.

[Rich]

Before we go to ILO for an update, I just want to point out you know how we're so quick to judge quarterbacks and people like on such a small sample size and we forget that it took other quarterbacks a minute to get there.

[Covino]

I mean, it's fresh on the mind with the John Elway stuff.

[Rich]

Well, yeah, you saw Elway.

[Covino]

Well, he got there. I mean, but to finally win it.

[Rich]

We, we talk about Elway, Montana in basketball. We talk about, you know, we forget that it took Jordan a handful of years before he got past the Celtics and the Eastern Conference. There's someone that we're all overlooking, and I want to talk about him as soon as we're done with ilo. What's up, ilo?

[Covino]

What up, ilo?

[Guest Analyst]

Fellas, it is indeed the end of an era in the NFL. Multiple outlets report the Baltimore Ravens have fired head coach John Harbaugh after 18 seasons, including a victory in Super Bowl 47. Harbaugh was the second longest tenured head coach in the league behind Pittsburgh's Mike Tomlin. The Detroit Lions today fired offensive coordinator John Morton. The Washington Commanders today fired defensive coordinator Joe Whit Jr. And mutually parted ways with offensive coordinator Cliff Kingsbury. The athletic report of the Commanders also fired offensive line coach Bobby Johnson. The Dallas Cowboys fired defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus. Former Cleveland Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski will interview with the New York Giants and Tennessee Titans for their head coaching job. Colts defensive coordinator Lou Anarumo will interview with the Giants and Titans for their head coaching jobs as well. Finally, fellas, just kind of a thought and a theory about this John Harbaugh business. We mentioned the existing openings with this John Harbaugh news and him coming onto the head coach in carousel. If you're a team that has a head coach currently but is kind of on the bubble, do you make a move with them now that John Harbaugh is out there? I'm talking about the likes of the Colts, Dolphins and Bengals, teams that didn't fire their head coaches but had to make a statement saying, we are keeping our existing head coach.

[Rich]

That's a good, that's a great question.

[Covino]

I think it changes everything. You know, there's a, there's a new option out there.

[Rich]

Interestingly enough, if you have a teenage.

[Covino]

Kid, you're as faithful as your options. Chris Rock said that years ago.

[Rich]

Yeah. Do you realize that if you have like a teenage kid, their life hasn't involved another coach other than Harbaugh? 18 years. Do you remember the last coach of the Ravens? I guessed it right, but does anyone want to throw it out there? Who was the last coach before John Harbaugh, Brian Billick. Brian Billick. That seems like an eternity to go. You were wearing. You were wearing bootcut jeans and you know, you didn't even have a smartphone yet when Brian Billick was the coach. Damn, it's been a minute. So this player I'm talking about, I mentioned it before. There's a guy that I feel like we might owe an apology because much like every sport, we forget to give people an opportunity to grow.

[Covino]

Are his initials tl?

[Rich]

Maybe we'll talk some more. NFL Wild Card and a bunch more Kavin on Rich next. Doing it live from Vegas.

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[Covino]

Know we were traveling. We don't know what you were doing. But it was sweet, sweet revenge for Kevin Durant. And he was really honest and open about how that felt. If you missed it, take a listen.

[Rich]

Ad. I know you still have love within that organization, but as a competitor, does.

[Kevin Durant]

It mean any more to you to be able to hit that one against your former guys? Most definitely. You know, I'm saying a place that I didn't want to leave and my first time being to sound. I don't want to sound too dramatic, but I will. To be kicked out of a place, you know what I'm saying, and felt like that, you know, I've been scapegoated, you know what I'm saying, for the issues we had as a team last year. Yeah, it felt good to beat them and hit a game winning shot. But that's. That's all it is. It's not just for the moment, you know, it's something tomorrow I won't even think about, you know, so it was. It was a fun game, like I said.

[Covino]

Of course.

[Kevin Durant]

Yeah. I felt you play with a little chip on your shoulder against your former team, especially when they trade you.

[Covino]

It's a Pringle, if anyone's wondering. But, you know, it's like winning the breakup. I'm not saying that's the sole motivation, but it always feels good. Of course, right? That revenge or to know that you got him back or you're still winning. So props to him. That was cool.

[Rich]

Cool. Now lots to get to.

[Covino]

You know, there is, by the way, a side note. You could watch what you hear. Covino and Rich, fsr. And I don't know if you see Rich, but he's writing stuff down like a madman. Like he's Don Draper in the boardroom. Like he's Roger Sterling. He's a madman. What are you doing? Are you playing a hangman with yourself?

[Rich]

No, I'm cross referencing.

[Covino]

He's. He's. He's got something up his sleeve.

[Rich]

I'm cross referencing.

[Covino]

Yeah, every single, right now.

[Rich]

Something up his sleeve. I'm cross referencing every. I guess you would say star NFL quarterback in our lifetime.

[Covino]

Okay.

[Rich]

And how long it took them to win a Super Bowl.

[Covino]

Oh, yeah.

[Rich]

And it all goes to me, making a case that we are so terribly rude and impatient with one quarterback in particular because he came out of college and he was called a, quote, generational.

[Covino]

Guy in a way. I have a but for you.

[Rich]

No, thanks.

[Covino]

There's plenty of them out here in Vegas.

[Rich]

You're not my type.

[Covino]

No, no, no.

[Rich]

I didn't say he's mine.

[Covino]

You have a butt.

[Rich]

But there, there was a sentiment that he was a generational guy and he is in Year five and we've given him no patience. I'm talking about Trevor mother effing Lawrence. And I wrote down when all your star quarterbacks won their first Super Bowl. And I'll give you a hint, only a couple of them did it before year five.

[Covino]

There was speculation, though. Here's the but that he didn't get enough criticism sometimes. Like he got a pass. A lot of other quarterbacks got more criticism. But you know, not to take away from your point, I agree. I think we were a little too impatient with that.

[Rich]

Danny G. Was there a sentiment once also where Trevor Lawrence made it seem like he has interest outside of football and it rubbed people the wrong way? Or am I thinking of the wrong guy? I feel like there was a quarterback who's like, yeah, I like other stuff too. And it was like you're supposed to eat, breathe and sleep football. I feel like that was him.

[Isaac Loenkron]

No, I don't remember that on Lawrence.

[Rich]

We'll double check.

[Covino]

I remember what you're thinking of. I'm not sure it was him either, though.

[Rich]

So listen, I got a case for Trevor Lawrence. We'll talk more. Wild Card and I thought about Tom Brady coming up, so hang tight. More CNR.

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