C&R - When the FOX Lane Opened

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show (C&R) – "When the FOX Lane Opened"

Date: October 10, 2025
Podcast Host: Covino & Rich (C&R)
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network

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Episode Overview

This episode is a unique "throwback Thursday" edition of Covino & Rich on The Dan Patrick Show, focusing on how FOX Network revolutionized "edgy" pop culture and sports content when it launched in 1986. The co-hosts, joined by callers and producers, reminisce about TV, music, comedy, and cultural moments once considered daring or taboo—and how societal standards and "the envelope" have shifted over time.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Birth of Edgy TV: FOX Network's Launch

[01:41] Covino sets the theme: The anniversary of FOX network's 1986 launch, noting its initial "edgy" reputation.

• Led by shows like Married With Children, The Simpsons, and In Living Color ([02:00], Rich).
• The 4th major network, previously only the "safe" options—CBS, NBC, ABC—existed. FOX broke the mold.

"They changed the way we watch." – Covino [02:31]

2. Changing Network Television

• FOX offered more diverse and daring programming than the "vanilla" CBS or other major networks ([02:53], Rich).
• In Living Color highlighted for its blend of Black comedians and the “crossover” contribution of Jim Carrey ([03:22], Rich).

"Jim Carrey really was the crossover, you know, culturally." – Rich [03:46]

3. Throwback Edgy Content and Parental Controls

• Benny Hill, slipping cable channels, and "string on the TV" to turn it off quickly ([05:01], Caller).
• Analog cable workarounds: stacking channels to "unscramble" Playboy/Spice for a glimpse of something forbidden ([05:34], Covino & Danny G).
• Late-night cable like Lady Chatterly, Cinemax’s "skin" movies, and taping shows over VHS sports games to hide them from parents ([06:09], [06:29], Rich).

"Your imagination would run wild because you swear you see some crazy stuff." – Covino [06:02]

4. Music & "Parental Advisory" Years

• Twisted Sister, NWA, Run DMC, Cypress Hill—a sense of rebellion tied to music ([07:09 - 08:32]).
• Parental advisory stickers and the need to hide or lower the music when parents were around.

"My aunts would go to my mom: 'Are you sure you want Stephen listening to that?'" – Covino [07:34]

• Danny G describes his mom screening his rap tapes (NWA, etc.), only approving "positive rap music" ([09:08]).

"Either you listen to positive rap music or no rap music." – Danny G [09:45]

5. Comedy and Stand-Up Shock Value

• Andrew Dice Clay as controversial, edgy standup, especially for kids quoting him at school ([10:01]).

"He was doing nursery rhymes. You vibed with that as a kid, but you didn’t want your mom hearing." – Covino [10:14]

• Howard Stern’s early radio and E! TV shows as the defining edge of the '90s ([15:25], [15:53], Covino & Danny G).
• Loveline and rise of sexual openness in call-in radio and podcasts ([17:13] - [17:55], Rich & Sam).

6. Movies and TV: Scenes Once Taboo

• Goonies statue scene, Top Gun love scene, Bachelor Party—all examples of once-"awkward" moments to watch with parents ([14:03] - [15:17]).
• Callers recall sneaking late-night shows, and how content access has fundamentally changed.

"There were certain scenes in certain VHS tapes where our parents would make us hit the fast-forward button." – Danny G [14:53]

7. Sports, Tattoos, and Changing Fashion

• Dennis Rodman’s tattoos, piercings, and colorful hair once seen as wild, now mainstream; Allen Iverson and the ubiquity of tattoos in NBA ([20:25] - [20:51]).
• Beards, “dangerous” fashion, and their normalization ([22:10]).

8. Sexuality & Culture in Media

• '90s and 2000s shifts: first gay kiss in Dawson’s Creek, Madonna & Britney kiss at VMAs—taboo then, commonplace now ([18:50], [22:27] - [22:39]).
• MTV’s Beavis and Butthead, Ren & Stimpy, and Sultry late-night cable reshaping youth content standards ([18:01]).

9. Rapid-Fire: Listeners Share Their “Edgy” Memories

• Callers recall Heavy Metal (animated movie), The Man Show, Talk Sex with Sue, rental store’s “back room” for adult videos, Risky Business, and more ([21:15] through [33:21]).
• Favorite moments: hiding VHS tapes, the thrill/fear of "scrambled" channels, parental reactions to pop culture, and “edgy” lyrics or TV censorship.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "I used to have to have that talk with my friends...We don’t laugh at any dirty jokes, and we don’t curse in front of my parents, all right?" – Covino [28:01]
• "Edgy for the time, because on this day, the Fox network became a thing. They pushed the envelope..." – Covino [27:23]
• "Tattoos in the NBA made [Dennis Rodman] seem like a maniac ... now everybody has them." – Rich [20:25]
• "Call Her Daddy just teaches women how to give good yin." – Rich [18:01]
• "You almost have to just be a good parent, guide them the right way and hope they make the right decisions. Because you can't keep this stuff away..." – Rich [30:51]
• "If it wasn't for Fox, we couldn’t say any of the words..." – Danny G [21:47]
• "Playboy was as risque... If you got your hands on a VHS, this is as risque as it got." – Covino [33:15]
• "I had to give it [Girls, Girls, Girls by Motley Crue] to my cousin. I even tried to scribble out the word thinking it would be okay, but it was not." – Dan Byer [26:16]

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Important Segment Timestamps

• On FOX's launch and the 'edgy' TV revolution: [01:41] - [02:53]
• In Living Color, Jim Carrey, race & diversity on TV: [03:22] - [04:01]
• Edgy late-night TV & cable box tricks: [05:01] - [06:28]
• Parental music policing & ‘Parental Advisory’ stickers: [07:09] - [09:49]
• Andrew Dice Clay, edgy comedy: [10:01] - [10:21]
• Howard Stern, radio & TV boundaries: [15:25] - [16:28]
• Pop music and sexual frankness: from Loveline to Call Her Daddy: [17:13] - [17:55]
• Tattoos, NBA, and shifting fashion edge: [20:25] - [20:51]
• Movie & TV scenes, awkwardness, normalization: [14:03] - [15:25], [18:50] - [18:50]
• Rapid-fire listener “edgy” confessions: [28:16] - [33:21]

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Conclusion

Covino & Rich’s exploration of “what was edgy and what is now” makes for a playful, nostalgia-driven episode that shines a light on shifting cultural standards and media boundaries. The FOX network’s legacy is shown not just in the entertainment it created, but in how it catalyzed more diverse, irreverent, and risk-taking content across all media—TV, music, sports, and beyond.

For New Listeners

If you missed the episode, this summary captures the mix of humor, pop culture knowledge, and participatory nostalgia that defines Covino & Rich. The discussion underscores how what was once "wild" is now mainstream—and prompts listeners to reflect on what current taboos may someday seem quaint.

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Catch more of C&R’s throwbacks and sports talk daily, and check out the next episode for more audience interaction, lively debates, and takes on current events in both pop culture and sports.

Transcript

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[Rich]

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[Rich]

All right.

[Covino]

All right. Now, Thursday, we do something called old school. Win 50 hits. We reminisce and we throw it back. And on this day in 86, the Fox network launched. And their whole angle was we're edgy. Oh, yeah. And I think it was led by Married With Children.

[Rich]

Personally, honestly, it took a couple years for the network to build some steam. But I think if you were to say, what's the trifecta of early Fox days? Married With Children, Simpsons in Living Color stick out to me. But Spotty, our video guy, was saying, you got to remember, like, 21 Jump street cops was a big show. America's.

[Covino]

Was it?

[Rich]

What was the video on?

[Covino]

Totally hidden Video.

[Rich]

Totally hidden video. That's what it was.

[Danny G]

Flashback.

[Rich]

I'm sorry. And America's Most Wanted, that was sort of like, ooh.

[Covino]

So, yeah. And again, you gotta remember for the time, if you're younger than us, yeah, it may have seemed normal to you, but back then, nothing like that was on television on regular network television. So this became the fourth major network and it changed the way we watch. So on this day, we throw it back and reminisce and we get you involved on what was considered edgy.

[Rich]

Well, there was something also a little more diverse and edgy about Fox because keep in mind, like, if you think CBS has always been, like, very vanilla, very, like middle America safe, cbs, Fox came out.

[Covino]

Oh, I thought when you said vanilla, it means, like, there was no chocolate involved. There was no. There was nothing else involved.

[Rich]

Honestly. CBS still gets criticized, right? They like, they're just very white, very.

[Danny G]

Bland, especially back in the days, spicy and.

[Rich]

And truthfully, like, I always. To this day, he's a little sprinkle of Tahiti till. Till this day, Danny G. And I don't think I'm saying anything revolutionary here. I think Jim Carrey benefited more than anyone else based on how he was the one white dude, predominantly black sketch comedy show in living color. And I think if you ask a lot of your.

[Danny G]

You could go to any barbecue.

[Rich]

If you ask any of your black friends. Yeah, give me like a white comic.

[Covino]

You like Gary Owen.

[Rich]

Gary Owen and Jim Carrey. And Jim Carrey really was the crossover, you know, culturally. And I think when he started coming out with movies, I think all your friends that were effort good American were like, yo, Jim Carrey's my dude.

[Covino]

So without a doubt. But again, this was way edgy for the time. And it sort of opened the floodgates. It's when, like, parental advisory albums were also a big deal. Right. So take you back to those cartoons, those albums, the music, the movies that were edgy. And you'd lower the volume or you'd change the channel when your mom walked in on you. And I think of. I don't know if it was meant to be edgy, but it was a little on the perverted side.

[Rich]

What's that?

[Covino]

My dad would be watching Benny Hill as a kid and I would watch with him and they would. There would be women in lingerie running around all over the place.

[Rich]

Oh, Willard.

[Covino]

Hey, Go. I'm sorry.

[Danny G]

Willard and Reno.

[Covino]

That's his Willard. It was great because you'd sit there as a kid, my dad would be laughing his off, but I'd be like.

[Rich]

Whoa, what's up, Willard?

[Caller]

Hey, what's up, Kavina? What's up, Rich? What's up, Diamonds and pearls. Diamond Dan. You know. You know how long I've been listening Diamond Dance? Anyways, guys, I used to have a string hooked up to my TV to where I can turn it off because it had a switch. I could turn it. I can make the string and turn it off before my mom cocked walked in. And yes, Benny Hill was one, but the real one.

[Danny G]

The real one.

[Caller]

The real one was on Showtime and it was after hours and it was called Emmanuel. Emmanuel.

[Covino]

I love it. Yeah, I remember that. I love if you had that box, too. We had a box with the wire. The box wire before we had like, I don't know, your regular remote control.

[Danny G]

It was an analog cable box.

[Covino]

The analog cable box. If you pressed three channels just a certain way, the right way, you'd get that Scrambled Playboy or Spice Chann. And again, that's what we're talking about.

[Danny G]

The cable boxes that had the turn knobs. You could also, like, hold it in between 2 of the pay channels and get it to unscramble. But my brother would, like, get a baseball card, fold it in half and stick it in there so that it would hold the position.

[Rich]

Or he would just make you hold it.

[Covino]

Your imagination would run wild because you swear you see some crazy stuff.

[Danny G]

He watched the show called Lady Chatterley on Cinemax.

[Covino]

I remember that. I remember Lady Chatterley. I remember Late Night Skin was pretty edgy for the time for, you know, regular cable channel. But back to Benny Hill, you know, Benny Hill would be patting the old guy on the head, but they'd be running around in fast speed to that song with all these women with their. With their Ghibli bits hanging out for the most part. Ooh, Ghibli bits.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

So you're like, whoa.

[Rich]

I remember, as I've joked before, I used to. I used to tape some of those late night Cinemax movies on VHS tapes and label them 49ers game so that my mom would never, you know, I'd be like 49ers bears Monday night. Meanwhile it would be. Do you remember Bikini Car Wash Company?

[Covino]

Yeah. Perverted 80s comedies.

[Rich]

There was one that I'll never remember the name, but it was a dude that made a wish and the genie was like, really hot. It was like something on a beach.

[Covino]

Am I a man?

[Rich]

Is this just a fantasy I had? No, but if everyone remembers what I'm talking about.

[Covino]

Kazam. With Shaquille o'.

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[Rich]

Is it Miracle Beach? Is that possible?

[Covino]

So anyway, if you know, let us know at 87799 on Fox. And I'm going to give you one more. I gave you Benny Hill. And he agreed. Thanks for the call, man. On the music front, I remember how. How naughty and wild and rebellious I felt listening to Twisted Sister as a kid. Maybe for you that was NWA or even Run DMC early on or something.

[Rich]

Or dare I say the genre of rep.

[Covino]

Twisted Sister for me was. Was that band Parental Advisory. Dee Snider actually fought that. Right. But I would have to lower it. If I heard my mom coming up the steps and I was listening to. You're gonna Burn in Hell, I'll burn in hell. I'd have to lower that. Cause I'm like, I don't want my mom to think I'm some sort of devil worshiper. And that was. It was a different time. My aunts would go to my mom. Are you sure you want Stephen listening to that? Cause I'd have these posters in my room. But that's what was considered edgy at the time.

[Rich]

I want to start. You. Let's tell me, like, you were listening to if I could just Kill a.

[Covino]

Oh, that was the only time my dad. Yeah, it was the only time my dad sort of reprimanded me. I was listening to the OG Cypress Hill. Here is something you can't understand. How I could just kill a man. My dad came in, hey, man, that's what you listening to. Killing man, that you listen to, man. And I was like, I don't know. Cypress Hill.

[Rich]

Yeah. You want to kill people? What's wrong with you?

[Covino]

But that was. That was 90s, right? But we're going 86. But whatever that story is for you, there's no rules here.

[Rich]

Yeah, we're talking about what you remember pushing the envelope. That now, when you look back, really is nothing. I. Danny, I'll say it again. He brings up the music. I think the genre of rap in itself was. Had a reputation.

[Danny G]

There was a lane. And my mom used to tell me, why can't you just listen to the positive rap? Because there was, like, you know, gangster rap. Yeah, there was. There were different kinds of rap music.

[Rich]

Guys like Snoop Dogg and guys like Ice Cube are like family friendly dudes right now. Those were the most bad dudes on planet Earth at one point.

[Covino]

It was definitely edgy. There's no question about it.

[Rich]

Come on.

[Danny G]

Yeah, there were rappers Chuck D and KRS1 and guys like that that were trying to teach you something.

[Covino]

And I know because of KRS 1, right?

[Danny G]

And then there was NWA and some of the gangsta rap. And my mom remember those Memorex tapes that were, like, pink and yellow with the swirl colors? Of course, my mom was curious about what was on some of those tapes in my bedroom while I was at school. She listened, and it was NWA how to Blank a Blank. And she lost her mind. When I got home from school, she said, just because we're in this environment we're in. We were in LA at the. It doesn't mean you could listen to this raunchy music.

[Covino]

Edgy.

[Danny G]

Either you listen to the. Either you listen to positive rap music or no rap music.

[Covino]

Right?

[Danny G]

Yeah. And so, you know, I had to be very careful with what music. I was even DJing on my turntables in my bedroom.

[Rich]

Kavino's mom gave him a Karen Carpenter cd, the cassette and said, how about this, Steven?

[Covino]

I'm like, no twisted sister. I want to rock. But, you know, back to tv, too. I don't think anyone's going to say it, so I'll say it. Andrew Dice Clay was as edgy as it got because he was doing nursery rhymes. You vibed with that as a kid, but you didn't want your mom hearing.

[Rich]

You repeated him at a recess.

[Covino]

Yeah. Oh, it was nice.

[Rich]

But you played dumb when your mom's like, what's that? Nothing, you know, let's go. The phone calls. And on the anniversary of FOX debuting. And again, it just pushed the envelope with In Living Color and, like we said, the Simpsons and Married With Children. What used to be considered pushing the envelope. Looking back, it's pretty funny.

[Covino]

Should we blame FOX for opening up the floodgates? Are we better off with all this smut and raunch vulgarity?

[Rich]

I have a few more great examples, but I don't want to steal them. So let's go to Boo in Texas. We'll start with you.

[Covino]

What's up, Boo? Hey, Boo.

[Caller]

Hey, you guys hear me?

[Covino]

We hear you, man. What? What?

[Rich]

What was considered raunchy or light or edgy back in the day?

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Caller]

So my mom was pretty cool. Like, stuff like Saturday Night Live she thought was pretty edgy, but she let us watch it. Like me and my brother and even some of the late night stuff on hbo. But she was like, don't ever tell anybody outside the house. Like, don't talk about it at school and all this kind of stuff. Until my brother brought home the first two Live Crew tape.

[Covino]

Oh, forget about it. Even the album cover was edgy.

[Caller]

Yeah. Yeah. He kind of snuck it in and he was like, look what I got. And we never played that one out loud.

[Rich]

Dude, there is smut everywhere now, right? I mean, listen, the younger generation. What's that fact? Like, 1 out of 10 girls, 18 to 25 has her own only fans page. Like, we live in a world where.

[Covino]

Yeah, people, this stuff is tame. This tame.

[Rich]

I remember bringing home, like, if you brought home a. Like a post of her girl with big boobs from Spencer's gifts and put on your wall. Your mom might have been like, what are you doing?

[Covino]

My mom had a heart attack when I took down my Don Mattingly hitman poster to put up some Cindy Crawford.

[Danny G]

Really quick, just to go back to what you were saying a minute ago about how it opened things. It did off the air, Iowa. Sam was saying that we got to see a lot of good programming that we would have missed out on. And also, it was some creative freedom that we still wouldn't have. Maybe because I worked at NBC Sports Radio prior to this network. Most of the stuff, I'll say, 80% of what we joke about on this show and what we're able to do, I couldn't do on that network. We'd get yelled at because they wanted to be more of a cbs. You know what Rich was saying before about bland and be careful and safe and all that. And because the Fox brand is somewhat irreverent, we're able to do things and have fun in a way that we normally wouldn't get to.

[Covino]

That's true. They weren't breaking any rules technically. They were just pushing them as far as they could go.

[Rich]

I'll tell you what. When we. Before here, we. We were. I. I think we're a little less fun. At ESPN, they were a little, you know, before they let McAfee sort of just do what he wants. Before that, they were very like, no, no, absolutely.

[Covino]

So back to your phone calls, because I got a bunch of answers. But what was considered edgy back then. You want to talk the trip?

[Rich]

Yeah, let's. Let's go to.

[Covino]

Hey, Trip in Vegas.

[Caller]

Hey, gentlemen. I've been watching you all on tv. I think y' all need lunch again. You're looking kind of thin around there. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna watch the bikini car wash, too, when I get home on hbo. Max, that's a great one. I was gonna say back in the day, first parent advisory lyrics I had was Ice Tea, back when he was a rapper and then Richard Pryor. I brought that home one time, and they turned it on, and the first words out of his mouth was the F word. My father's like, you can turn that off.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Caller]

I mean, because it was a look on their face. The first wor.

[Rich]

Yeah. Honestly, it's a lot of Eddie Murphy, too.

[Covino]

You're. I mean, I remember my mom walking me out of movies, like, pulling me by my ears because it would get too raunchy. I remember my mom walking out, like, I think it was like 48 hours. Eddie Murphy movies. Like. Like, because of the language.

[Rich]

Do you remember?

[Covino]

Different time.

[Rich]

Speaking of which, now that you got me thinking of even deeper stuff now, of course, there's gonna be really good general answers, but specific movies and shows that had a scene that made you feel uncomfortable. But looking back now, it would be nothing in 2025. Tame. But maybe back then you were like, oh, my God. Because I just thought of one. We all watched this movie a million times as a kid. Goonies, when they dropped a statue and the penis breaks off the statue.

[Danny G]

Oh, my goodness.

[Rich]

With that little scene when you. Pun intended. With that scene, when you watch that. And you know, Malfa's like, yeah, that's her favorite part of the statue. With that. When watching that with your parents, I remember having stomach aches.

[Sam]

They glued it upside down.

[Rich]

Yeah, they glued it up. When you were.

[Covino]

Part of the story, though, is when Rich told me this earlier, he said, that giant penis. And I was like, what are you talking about?

[Danny G]

That is a great thought, though, Rich, because there were certain scenes in certain VHS tapes where our parents would make us hit the fast forward button. Top Gun whenever that scene would come on, where he finally hooked up with his instructor.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

And it's. I look back at it now, it's such a lame love scene. But my mom made us fast forward that every time.

[Rich]

It's funny. My dad used to love the movie and probably still does. Bachelor Party.

[Covino]

Oh, yeah. I don't even know if I could pay.

[Rich]

I don't know if I know that movie in its entirety because my dad would let me watch. But every so often, he would just be like, all right, put a pillow in front of your face for this. And I would. I'd have to.

[Covino]

I'd have to do that. So I'm gonna steal a Danny G. Answer, because I thought the same thing when we said, let's talk about this. When I was a kid, I remember listening to early Howard Stern because my dad would listen to him, and I remember he would get those Buck Bongo fiestas. He would order those early pay per views. I'd be sneaking down the stairs just to see what was going on. Like, what are they watching over here? But listening to those early radio programs, that was. Wow, that was way edgy for the time.

[Danny G]

Or I texted you guys this morning about this topic, that in the early 90s, my mom would not let us have Howard when he was on E. She'd make us turn the channel.

[Sam]

I watched so much Howard Stern on.

[Covino]

E. No, because you Remember the commercials that were aired during that Girls Gone Wild commercials?

[Sam]

Were those.

[Covino]

And then Wild on would be on after that.

[Sam]

Were those episodes of Howard Stern, like, of the time, or were they, like, from years prior to the TV show?

[Covino]

I worked with all those dudes.

[Danny G]

Oh, man.

[Covino]

Yeah, that was. That was going on, like, the week before. They had replays, but they were all.

[Rich]

Current, relatively real time stuff.

[Sam]

They're on, like, 11:30 at night on E. So we were. I was just. That was what I watched as, like, a teenager, so.

[Covino]

Funny, man.

[Sam]

I have another one that I watched this show with my mom at this show on ABC in the mid-90s. Like, actually late 80s, I think. Push the envelope. Do you guys know this theme? NYPD Blue. For both language and nudity, the show was very edgy, very raunchy, very real, and also homicide. Life on the street, we watched together.

[Covino]

No, that's why it's a great answer, Sam, because you think from today's perspective of, like, this was edgy and it was. Yeah, that's how much life has changed. So let's get back to the phone calls.

[Rich]

You know what? I have one more, and then we'll go to the feedback. I don't think anyone's gonna say this one because you mentioned Howard Stern.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich]

I mean, he was ever pig vomit in the movie.

[Covino]

He was very.

[Rich]

Howard Stern's the Devil. I mean, wnbc. So think about where, you know, especially women have learned to really own their sexuality. Right. Like, back in the day, I remember sitting in my room listening to loveline. There was Dr. Judy. I know there were other ones. Dr. Ruth, but Dr. Judy was a syndicated show. And then Dr. Drew had his show. Loveline was a big deal.

[Sam]

Wasn't Adam Carolla on that show at one point?

[Rich]

At one point, Adam Carolla, of course. And now fast forward. Call Her Daddy is like, one of the top podcasts in the country. And it is, like, it makes that seem like children's cartoons. What you listen to on Loveline. Call Her Dad.

[Sam]

I was actually helping people. People call in and they have, like, an STD, and they, like, describe it for Dr. Drew, and he's like, yeah, you have siblings.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich]

Now call Her Daddy just teaches women how to give good yin.

[Covino]

You know, it's interesting, too Rich, as a parent, you have these conversations with your. With your kids, because I'll tell my daughter Melody about Beavis and Butthead or something like that. Liquid Television, mtv. MTV was kind of edgy, and they had Beavis and Butthead. But at the time, that was pushing the envelope even further than the Simpsons and then of course, South Park. But to me, Beavis and Butthead, yeah, Ren and Stimpy, they all pushed the envelope. So a kid will watch that today and be like, ah, that's stupid. But you have to explain to them. Yeah, but at the time, Beavis and.

[Rich]

Butthead, it's like your parents or grandparents telling you like, oh, they had a blur out, they had a cut out Elvis shaking his hips. Women and men didn't sleep in the same bed in television until, what was.

[Covino]

It, the Flintstones or I Love Lucy? One of those.

[Rich]

Well, you know, speaking of also sexuality, I'm pretty certain this fun fact is Dawson's Creek in the 2000s had the first gay kiss on television. Before that, that was as, you know, look at where we are in 2025 compared to 20 years ago. So we've, we've come a long way. So let's go to Mike in Minnesota. What's up, Mike?

[Caller]

Hey, what's up? You know. So you stole the love line. That was one of the things.

[Rich]

Oh, get out of here.

[Caller]

Yeah, the other one though, that I get a kick out of. It's like after watching a rerun of Wings or something. La Femme Nikita usa.

[Rich]

Yeah, those are good ones for sure. Chris and Indy, you're on with Kavino and Rich. Hey, Chris.

[Caller]

All right, you guys got my, my Wild on Eve Brooke Burke scene. Because every few minutes you could. You may be able to catch a thong, but so I've got another one for you. Do you guys remember the man show? I don't remember what channel it was on. Girl Central trampolines, I think.

[Rich]

Yeah, Corolla and camo back in the day. Yeah, that was, that was, that was great.

[Covino]

That's what, you know is ironic about Jimmy Kimmel today. I'm not saying people don't grow and change, but that's always what comes back at him like, hey, you mean the guy that had women on trampolines with little people? And that's fine. That's funny. It was great.

[Rich]

In fact, I like that version.

[Covino]

But I mean, people love to bring that up, for sure.

[Sam]

He also hosted Wynne Ben Stein's Money.

[Rich]

You remember that too?

[Covino]

Of course.

[Sam]

I love both of those shows. I think they're on like, I don't know, back to back, but the same night, I think.

[Covino]

So Edgy programming, comedy, music, movies.

[Rich]

Can I throw one more at you?

[Covino]

Sure.

[Rich]

Something that used to be considered like wild, right? Oh my God. And now it's like every tattoos Dennis Rodman having Tattoos in the NBA made him seem like a maniac.

[Covino]

Without a doubt.

[Rich]

Tell me a guy name Allen Iverson. Tell me, name it now.

[Covino]

The biggest nerd on Love is Blind has full on sleeves. Seriously, it's really something. That was edgy and now everybody has them.

[Rich]

The NBA. I want you to think of a player, it's hard to think of a player now that doesn't have tattoos everywhere. Back then, Dennis Rodman was like a trailblazer. Like, can you believe he's got all those tattoos and piercings? And he dyed his hair. That was considered wild as could be. Evan in Los Angeles, you're on. What's up, buddy? Hey, what's up, guys?

[Caller]

I have one that's a little bit more obscure. Do you guys remember the animated movie Heavy Metal? I do, yeah. I mean, my dad, like, would always quote that movie. I remember showing to some friends and they go home and tell their parents and next thing you hear, knock, knock, knock. Why are you sure it's like, what you saw some animated tits and ass and cursing? Like, get over it.

[Covino]

That's so funny, man. Hey, thank you. To hear what Evan said, catch the podcast.

[Rich]

I don't think you could say that word.

[Covino]

I'm not sure if you could say that, but please catch our podcast anyway.

[Sam]

Tna.

[Covino]

All right, thank you, Sam.

[Danny G]

If it wasn't for Fox, we couldn't say any of the words.

[Covino]

What was considered edgy back in the day, you know, you could say, we've come a long way. Or you could say, I don't know. Are we better off? I don't know.

[Rich]

Well, I don't think.

[Covino]

I don't want to sound like Mrs. Grundy. I don't want to sound prudish, but it is interesting to look back at what we thought was dangerous and it really wasn't what we thought was edgy. And compared to today, it really wasn't.

[Rich]

Not necessarily edgy, but like, wow, what are. Like, how risky. Look around the room. Every one of us for the most part has some type of facial hair going on. Back in the day, like, if you saw a guy with a big beard, it would almost be like, what is this?

[Covino]

Was he out of prison? This guy's got a beard.

[Sam]

My mom would be like, what's he hiding under there?

[Rich]

Beard and tattoos. And I'll give you one more and then we'll take your feedback when we get back. Do you remember Madonna and Brittany kissing at the VMAs?

[Danny G]

Oh, yeah.

[Rich]

That was considered like, whoa, whoa. Christina Aguilera was involved too. That was like taboo. Can you believe it? I Nowadays, college girls and guys do all these crazy things. Remember in college when two girls would kiss for like a free shot? It was like, oh my God. Girls gone wild. Yeah, girls gone wild. Like you mentioned, it was, it was a thing. Now it's like everyone's gone wild and lost their damn minds. All right, your feedback, your calls, all that. Next, the topic at hand on the anniversary of Fox becoming a network. What was once edgy? That's not really that edgy anymore.

[Covino]

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[Covino]

What are you trying to upset my dad?

[Danny G]

Yeah.

[Rich]

What are you listening to this for? Yeah, this.

[Covino]

What you into? How I could kill a man.

[Danny G]

So funny.

[Rich]

What used to be edgy is now like, what?

[Covino]

You know what was edgy but still is edgy. But it was really edgy for the time. Basic Instinct. Because of one particular scene.

[Rich]

Yeah, you know what?

[Covino]

You ain't kidding, right? Because that was like. That took the world by storm. Sharon Stone was naughty. And your mom didn't want you watching that. No. Cavino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. Love throwing it back and reminiscing with you here every Thursday on the show old school in 50 hits, the music, parental advisory songs. Anytime the word hell was sung or there was a curse word in your rap song. Dan Byer, I can't imagine you listening to I want your sex in front of your parents.

[Dan Byer]

Well, I can tell you this, that when I was a kid, I bought Girls, girls, Girls by Motley Crue on cassette. And because, well, when they said kicking, you know what on the Wild side, it was in the lyrics, and my mom was not having that, so I had to give it to my cousin. I even tried to scribble out the word, thinking it would be okay, but it was not.

[Rich]

Our buddy Jeff hit us up in Alabama. He said with his allowance money, he went to go buy an Eminem album. And his mom immediately, hold on. What do you say? He goes, one of my first CDs I bought with my own allowance money. I got the Eminem show. My mom took one listen and she made me return it.

[Covino]

Dude. Any sexual reference? Belle, Biv, devoe, Do me or any time they sing about sex or Push it by Salt and Pe. Those were like, you gotta lower it when the parents were around because it was edgy for the time. Now that's just pop music. They have sex jingles that your kids are singing to listen to.

[Sam]

Doja Cat or Card B. And you're like, whoa, kidding me.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

So again, edgy for the time. Because on this day.

[Rich]

What was that chat? What was that song two years ago? Wet ass.

[Covino]

Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

[Rich]

That's where we're at now.

[Covino]

So on this day, the Fox network became a thing. They pushed the envelope and the parents like, whoa, what are you watching? The Simpsons. What are you crazy? What were those edgy things? Please continue to chime in. Ovinoenrich oxsportsradio on social media, Covino is.

[Rich]

100% right when it comes to just the word S E, X. Oh, yeah, I remember Madonna. Like a Virgin was a weird song. When it would come out, I'm like, that would insinuate you knew what a virgin meant around your parents. Like, virgin. There was something very strange about it, right?

[Covino]

I used to have to have that talk with my friends. Like, if I had, like, some sort of lampwick, edgy type of friend. Hey, guys, listen. We don't laugh to any dirty jokes, and we don't curse in front of my parents, all right? I'd have to talk with my friends before they came in the house.

[Rich]

All right, let's say hi to. We'll go rapid fire, and then we'll go to DB's update. We'll start with Waco. Adam, you're on with C and R. What's up, buddy?

[Caller]

Hey, guys. You guys have a funny story? When I was 15 or 16, my mom and I decided to go to the movie theater together. We didn't know what we were going to see, so we ended up seeing something about married together.

[Rich]

Well, the franken beans, the. In the hair. Oh, my God. Oh, yikes.

[Covino]

You know, it was pretty edgy. I'm gonna bring it back to sports just for a second. It's Fox Sports Radio. I always thought Morgana the Kissing bandit was kind of edgy because she came out of bouncing around. If you remember, I thought Elvira was kind of edgy. She was showing a lot back then. I'd stay up late for it.

[Rich]

Could I tell you that my brother is newly single, just went through a divorce, and it was the most cringy thing because, you know, we're all adults now. My mom, in front of me and my brother said, well, Jimmy, you're single now. Like, when you go on these dates, like, how long are you waiting to have sex with these random women? And my brother and I like, jesus Christ, Mom.

[Covino]

That's it.

[Rich]

My mom's like, we're all adults. No, we're not, Mom. We don't know. These are lines we don't cross. We leave the room and there's a nudie scene. We do not have these conversations.

[Covino]

And you know what? But just to take you back to that mindset, we talked about the scrambled channels. You know, you stayed up late watching that HBO jingle, that feature presentation, waiting for a rated R. You're like, come on, rated R. Let's go.

[Rich]

Yes, rated R. Let's go back to the rapid fire. As soon as you finish this lyric for me that you were scared to sing as a kid.

[Covino]

Ready?

[Caller]

Okay.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich]

Oh, Ms. John Glenn Liston. Beat Patterson. Pope Paul, Malcolm X. British politician. Say jfk blown away.

[Covino]

Yeah, yeah.

[Rich]

Not singing that. All right. John in Montana. What's up, Johnny?

[Caller]

Hey, what's up, guys? Hey, real quick, with a rapid fire, you kind of took the Beavis Butthead here. But that was my whole thing as a. Like an eight, nine year old kid. And then my older brother introduced me to a little movie called South Park. Bigger, longer and uncut.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

Way.

[Rich]

That's great.

[Covino]

Way different. And you know what? It's so tough to monitor as a parent. Like, you're gonna try to keep euphoria away from your teenage kids. They're exposed to so much. It's horrible. It really is. But, like, it's almost something you need to prepare them for because there's no way to stop it.

[Danny G]

Our teenager watches Love island, and I don't like it, but there's no way I can stop her from watching.

[Covino]

How in the world are you gonna stop it? All the kids are talking about it on her phone.

[Danny G]

Yeah, exactly.

[Covino]

Go to a friend's house. There's no way. So they're exposed.

[Rich]

You almost have to. You know, not to sound like, you know, giving advice here, but you almost have to just be a good parent, guide them the right way and hope they make the right decisions. Because you can't keep this stuff away from me, right, Danny, you have a teenage daughter watching Love Island. What do you think? That's not gonna happen.

[Covino]

And it's as simple as them. Like, for you to be exposed to something, it's because you found it in the street somewhere or you found your dad's collection or whatever happened by chance. You almost. Now it's a link. Your kid opens a link, it'd be something terrible. So you just gotta tell them, look, that's not the norm. And make good choices, like Rich said.

[Rich]

All right, Dylan in Illinois. What's up, Dylan?

[Caller]

Hey, I got one that kind of blurs the lines of edgy, is if you guys remember Talk sex with Sue Johansson.

[WebMD Health Discovered Host]

Yes.

[Caller]

A little old lady would talk about everything from, like, positions to the things they've been throwing on the court at WNBA games.

[WebMD Health Discovered Host]

Yeah.

[Covino]

Yeah. Like a Dr. Ruth.

[Rich]

Yeah, so very Dr. Ruth Jenny and.

[Sam]

I were talking about. It was, like, better sex ed than you were getting in high school. Absolutely better. And she was, like, Canadian, and she would come on and I think on E after Howard Stern.

[Rich]

Anyone ever find it weird that in school it was like the random gym teacher that had to, like, talk to you guys about stuff like that Mr.

[Covino]

Buzzcut taught you about puberty.

[Rich]

Let's go to Rob. Rob, you're on. What's up?

[Danny G]

What up, Texas?

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Caller]

So back in the day when you had to pay $100 for a video membership and VHS just came out for my uncle, bringing home Risky Business and the parents and all the adults sending us back to our bedrooms go to bed early and watching it.

[Rich]

You know what I thought he was gonna say? I thought he was gonna say when you would go to the video store and they had the one part where it was behind, like, the beaded door and, like, you would see, like, your, you know, your neighbor back there.

[Covino]

What does he do?

[Rich]

Oh, can't go back there. Heidi in Florida. What's up, Heidi?

[Covino]

Hey, Heidi.

[Caller]

Hey. Hey. For me, I was a young teenager and I had the album Donna Summer. And she had that song, Love to Love youe Baby. And it went. It got very orgasmic. That was like, oh, wow.

[Covino]

By the way, I'm wearing a Playboy T shirt today. This is in reference to a Muhammad Ali article that they wrote in 74 at Playboy. But to think that this doesn't even exist because we're so past the envelope.

[Rich]

Yeah, that's not enough.

[Covino]

It's not enough. Playboy was as risque. If you got your hands on a vhs, this is risque as it got.

[Rich]

Steven, Odessa, wrap it up and then we'll go to Dan for an update. What's up, Steve?

[Caller]

What's up, guys? Long time. Second time. I remember. And my mom worked nights as product of a single mom. And when I was a kid, there was a late night show on HBO called the Hitchhiker.

[Covino]

Yeah, I remember that.

[Caller]

It was like a 30 minute, kind of slutty. I kind of mixed some horror in there. But that's. That was like my first introduction. Staying up late at night just to, you know, catch 30 minutes and hoping they'd have a nudity because I always say bad language, grappling.

[Covino]

Yeah, it was great. It was very. It was very Tales from the Cryptish kind of the Hitchhiker. Good one. Thank you so much. Thanks for reminiscing with us. The rest of your answers at Covino and Rich. And we still gotta get you ready for NFL Thursday night, but DB first. DB's got an update.

[Rich]

What's up, Dan?

[Dan Byer]

Buyer, I have no idea how you could get your record player to play backwards, but even if we could, we were not allowed some of those albums and the messages and the various rock bands and metal bands. That was a no, no. We don't have a no, no going on in Game 4 of the NLDS, but the Phillies and Dodgers are scoreless right now in the top of the third inning in their Game four. Dodgers up to one in the series. Harrison Bader not in the lineup for the Phillies today. Brewers and Gubs come up 9 o' clock Eastern Time in their game four in Chicago with Milwaukee leading that series two one. Former Red Sox outfielder Mike Greenwell died. He passed away at the age of 62 after a battle with cancer. Week 6 in the NFL season starts with the eagles and giants 8:15 eastern time some injury news in the NFL. Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson missed another practice today because of his strained hamstring. Cardinals quarterback Kyler Murray didn't practice. He's dealing with that foot injury, while 49ers quarterback Brock Purdy missed practice with his toe injury. According to espn, Purdy was spotted doing conditioning drills on the side and the portion of practice open to the media. Patriots corner Christian Gonzalez popped up on the injury report with a hamstring injury and sciatica is what's got LeBron James, the Lakers forward going to miss the first a couple of weeks of the NBA season. Lakers saying he's out three to four weeks, according to espn. With sciatica on his right side. That would rule him out of their opener against Golden State in less than two weeks. Guys, back to you.

[Rich]

Dan Byer, you're a fantasy football expert. Is it safe to say this year a lot of bang ups, a lot of guys, even if it's for a week or so, I feel like, I feel like every team's got a couple key offensive players that are finding their way on and on and off the bench.

[Dan Byer]

Yes, I think more so now too with this 17 game schedule. It's a much longer regular season. Teams aren't willing to risk their players. It's a different ball game than it was 20, 30 years ago.

[Rich]

Every week in our Guillotine League, I feel like I have to figure something out.

[Dan Byer]

Yes. Yeah. Somebody's in, somebody's out.

[Rich]

It's a lot of fun. Thanks for inviting us into that. We got more Kavino and Rich. We'll go over tonight's Thursday Night football football matchup. Is it all about Jackson dart tonight or is it all about Eagles domination in Philly? We'll break that all down next right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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[Covino]

There's just five words to say as you go down, down, down. Oh I gotta lower it. My mom's coming. Oh lower it.

[Rich]

What are you listening to, Steven? Oh, you're the devil.

[Covino]

My mom's virgin ears. You can believe all the things that go wrong in my life. I was such a rebel little kid. I had the best childhood. I was so mad trying. I live on the edge of a nice D. Snyder. My hero bro. So Covino and Rich Man. I used to lower these lyrics anytime my mom was around. And ironically, rich twisted sister joined forces with my other hero, Pee Wee Herman. In the movie 1985 Pee Wee's Big Adventure. He crashes the video shoot for you're gonna burn in hell if you guys remember. So we're throwing it back on a Thursday. Covino and Rich can't wait to read all the feedback later. And we're live from the Fox Sports radio studio. For over 40 years, Tire Rack has been helping customers find the right tires for how, what and where they drive ship fast and free backed by free road hazard protection. With convenient installation options like mobile tire installation, tire rack.com the way tire buying should be and business fluctuations.

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[Covino]

Rich, you know how he said sex was a dirty word in all your songs? Of course, if it was sung in front of your parents, it was a nightmare. I remember hell was a dirty word. So burn in hell. Like I remember doing a talent show and it was Bon Jovi and I was in grade I was like Fifth grade or whatever. You promised me heaven. You put me through hell. Right. We had to say, put us. Put you through pain or heck or something, because you couldn't say that in front of people because it was pushing.

[Rich]

The envelope, you know?

[Covino]

So different from today's world.

[Rich]

Yeah. You know, it's a dirty word in today's world. My kids will say like, you said the S word. I'm like, I said the S word. Like. Like poop. Like that. Like, no, dad, you said stupid. I'm like, my kids think like kids now. They say, good, though.

[Sam]

You want to hear them?

[Danny G]

Stupid teachers. Yeah, Teachers will tell a kid something if they hear that.

[Rich]

Like, stupid, dumb, and, like, words that demean others.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich]

So I was reading Dr. Seuss the other day, and there's like. Like, what was it? Like? I'm reading, like, is it one fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish? Yeah. And like, they're like. And the fat one in my. I was like, oh, is fat a dirty word there?

[Covino]

That's a dirty word.

[Sam]

They wanted to, like, take fat out of, like, a Roald Dahl book. Like, somebody did.

[Rich]

I'm like, what are we doing? Fat's a word.

[WebMD Health Discovered Host]

What are we.

[Covino]

What's a descriptor? I feel like it was coming back.

[Rich]

Fatso's making a comeback. It just came back in my living.

[Covino]

Room last night when I was watching Big Poppy.

[Rich]

Well, no, then you said, alejandro Kirk. Look at that fatso. I'm like, be nice. Be nice. He beat your Yankees.

[Covino]

He came back yesterday for me when I was watching Yankees Loose. All right, so tomorrow, Rich's big TV game of the week.

[Rich]

Oh, yeah, buddy.

[Covino]

Plus, our new game, Brainwave. And I think we perfected it. So you want to call up tomorrow, play Brain Wave for some CNR prizes, get you ready for the weekend with Weekend Hobnobbin? But right now, Rich get us ready for Thursday night football. Eagles at the Giants. Are we hyped about Jackson Dart or what? Is this his biggest, like, main stage premiere? Like, we're all tuning in and watch.

[Rich]

This dude, the games at the Meadowlands, people hate that field. People hate the. You know, the conditions. But it's in New York. Division rival Thursday night. You got to ask yourself, what's going to go down tonight. Eagles at Giants. I don't like to overthink these things because truthfully, we've. We've been doing a pretty good job on these teaser bets on Thursday nights and Monday nights. In fact.

[Danny G]

Wait, wait, you're being humble. Nine and.

[Rich]

Oh, I'm nine and. Oh, so I'm like, so now you're nervous because we overthinking. But my. My instinct is bringing me somewhere. So follow me here. And I think the. So the Eagles are seven and a half point favorites in New York. While I do think it'll be fun to watch Jackson dart and while I do think all eyes on and you know, see what happens and you know, Cam, scatter, boo. Maybe you got some new gloves. I'll hold onto the ball. I like taking that teaser bet seven and a half. Making it one and a half. I think Philadelphia win. So Philadelphia minus one and a half. The over under is 41 and a half. I'm tempted to go up to 47 and a half and taking the under. I just don't see a ton, A ton, A ton of points being scored. So I'm liking under 47 and a half. Philly minus one and a half. Lock that in as your teaser bet. We'll see what happens. And by the way, Danny, you may have just caught a big break. An error by the Philadelphia Phillies now has the Dodgers with first and third, two down. You got. And you got Mookie Bets at the plate against Sanchez.

[Covino]

And.

[Rich]

Diving play by Bryce Harper gets out of the inning.

[Covino]

That right there was a. That was a play. We said Bryce Harper, he's. He's going to be the guy. So you got your Phillies, Dodgers, you got your Brewers, Cubs, and of course your Eagles, Giants. And we'll be talking about it tomorrow on the show. So I hope all your teams win. I hope you make some money moves.

[Rich]

Hey, you think monsieur jinx you yesterday by wearing a Yankee shirt?

[Covino]

Dude, if she did, I'm never talking to her again.

[Rich]

Oh, hi, monsieur.

[Covino]

What's going on?

[WebMD Health Discovered Host]

I wasn't listening.

[Rich]

Did you start over? You jinxed Cavino yesterday by wearing a Yankee shirt.

[Covino]

You know what?

[WebMD Health Discovered Host]

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[Rich]

I like that you like that list.

[WebMD Health Discovered Host]

Thank you.

[Covino]

I do.

[WebMD Health Discovered Host]

So I'm not taking Slam.

[Covino]

Everybody shut up and put the blame on Anthony Volpe.

[Rich]

Now.

[Sam]

Monsieur set fire to. It was arson judge. She actually was wearing arson judge shirt.

[Covino]

Speaking of Volpe. Speaking of Volpe, we do something called they might be ass and we do it in six minutes on over promised our bonus podcast. Episode 112 brand new podcast. Join us live, live chat and everything. And we're gonna do something called is it cheap? Because today's the anniversary of a big cheating scandal in sports. But we go over the new rules.

[Rich]

Of today, we'll do it all on over promise. Can't wait. So hang tight. That'll be on our YouTube page. Until then. Arrivederci baby.

[Covino]

See you in the over promised land. Let's go.

[Rich]

Goodbye.

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[Covino]

This is an iHeart podcast.