Devers Won't Move off 3B for Bregman (with Jared Carrabis)

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Patrick Show - Episode: Devers Won't Move off 3B for Bregman (with Jared Carrabis)
Release Date: February 17, 2025
Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network

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Introduction to the Devers-Bregman Situation

In this episode, Dave Portnoy engages in a deep dive with Jared Karabas regarding the Boston Red Sox's star third baseman, Rafael Devers, and his stance on moving off third base for Alex Bregman. The conversation centers around the implications of Devers' decision on the team's lineup and future strategies.

Jared Karabas [03:50]: "He won't move off third. Absolutely not. Won't do it."

Analyzing the Red Sox Lineup Dynamics

Karabas and Portnoy explore the potential scenarios if Devers had agreed to shift positions for Bregman, including possible trades involving Nolan Arenado. Jared emphasizes that Devers' unwavering commitment to his position has significant implications for the team's flexibility.

Jared Karabas [04:16]: "If Bregman signs with the Cubs, the Red Sox pull the trigger on a Nolan Arenado trade... Devers was cool with moving off third for Nolan, obviously he's going to be fine with moving off third for Bregman."

However, Devers' refusal to relocate creates challenges in optimizing the lineup, potentially leading to a balance where both players take grounders at third or adjustments in their roles.

Comparisons to Past Team Dynamics

The discussion draws parallels between the current Red Sox and the 2018 Atlanta Braves, highlighting how team chemistry and young talent can influence championship outcomes. Jared suggests that, much like the Braves, the Red Sox have a window of opportunity that could lead to postseason success, albeit with some unpredictability.

Jared Karabas [26:58]: "The 2025 Red Sox are most comparable to the 2018 Braves because that team... they won it without Acuna."

Assessing Other Teams in the AL East

The conversation shifts to other American League East contenders, including the Toronto Blue Jays, Baltimore Orioles, Texas Rangers, and Seattle Mariners. Jared critiques the Blue Jays' handling of key players like Vlad Jr. and Tristan Casas, expressing skepticism about their long-term strategies.

Dave Portnoy [24:10]: "If Vlad doesn't sign that extension with the Blue Jays, the Red Sox are going all in on Vlad Jr."

The Orioles and Mariners receive their assessments, with Jared pointing out missed opportunities and strategic missteps that could affect their competitiveness in the division.

Jared Karabas [38:34]: "How do you not make something like that happen? Dude, pop 44 homers. You guys need offense. Pay the dude."

Pitching Staff and Rotation Evaluations

Both hosts examine the Red Sox's pitching rotation, discussing the depth and potential of players like Garrett Crochet and Chris Sale. They debate whether the starting rotation meets the team's needs and how bullpen acquisitions like Hendrick Chapman might impact playoff scenarios.

Dave Portnoy [14:59]: "They have a good bullpen with Whitlock and Chapman, but the rotation needs to hold up."

Season Outlook and Future Predictions

Looking ahead, Jared and Dave express cautious optimism about the Red Sox's chances, acknowledging both the strengths and uncertainties that lie ahead. They speculate on possible playoff appearances and the team's ability to navigate the competitive AL East.

Jared Karabas [37:23]: "I think the Red Sox could fall backwards into an ALCS... they've got Bregman, a guy who's been there, done that and has a history of playing in the playoffs."

Personal Insights and Podcasting Life

Towards the end of the episode, Dave and Jared shift gears to discuss their personal lives and experiences in podcasting. They touch on the challenges of maintaining work-life balance, especially with the demands of covering live sports events and managing personal relationships amidst public scrutiny.

Jared Karabas [43:24]: "I've just been able to do a little bit of a mixed bag of everything, which is awesome."

Conclusion

The episode concludes with reflections on the dynamic nature of baseball team management and the ever-evolving strategies within the AL East. Both hosts emphasize the importance of adaptability and strategic planning in achieving postseason success.

Dave Portnoy [56:40]: "That's the beauty of this time of year. Teams are figuring themselves out, and it makes for exciting baseball."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Jared Karabas [04:16]: "If Bregman signs with the Cubs, the Red Sox pull the trigger on a Nolan Arenado trade... Devers was cool with moving off third for Nolan, obviously he's going to be fine with moving off third for Bregman."

• Jared Karabas [03:50]: "He won't move off third. Absolutely not. Won't do it."

• Jared Karabas [26:58]: "The 2025 Red Sox are most comparable to the 2018 Braves because that team... they won it without Acuna."

• Dave Portnoy [24:10]: "If Vlad doesn't sign that extension with the Blue Jays, the Red Sox are going all in on Vlad Jr."

• Jared Karabas [37:23]: "I think the Red Sox could fall backwards into an ALCS... they've got Bregman, a guy who's been there, done that and has a history of playing in the playoffs."

This episode provides a comprehensive analysis of the current state of the Red Sox, the challenges posed by Rafael Devers' position preferences, and broader implications for the AL East's competitive landscape. The hosts balance statistical analysis with personal anecdotes, offering listeners both informative and relatable content.

Transcript

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[Dave Portnoy]

Hello and welcome to a very special edition of Wake and Jake. We are joined by the tribal chief, Jared Karabas. Carabas. I always get nervous, man, that last. Nervous, that last moment before I say. I was gonna say the C word. I always get nervous that I'm gonna say it wrong. But.

[Jared Karabas]

Well, Dave, my former boss, yeah, he put it in everyone's minds the wrong way. But the right way is Karabis.

[Dave Portnoy]

Karabis.

[Jared Karabas]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

How you doing man?

[Jared Karabas]

I'm doing great. It's good to see you. It's good to talk to you. I just Feel like it's been some time. We don't. We don't get to talk ball, like, in person as often as I feel like we should, Dude.

[Dave Portnoy]

It felt like there was a little bit there when our stuff was getting going. It was like, oh, okay, yeah, we'll see him at the Easton event. We'll see him at winter meetings. We'll see. And now, I don't know. I. I kind of want to end with that because we. We did a little bit of that before we started recording. Because you got some. You got some life stuff going on. We got everything going on. But the first happening. The first thing that's going on is, how about the socks, kid?

[Jared Karabas]

How about them socks?

[Dave Portnoy]

And it's. Dude, it's. It's so funny. I. I'll give you credit. You sent a very good text message yesterday. I texted you, and I was like, jared would love to have you on. Want to talk some socks. And Alice, you didn't copy and paste, but you were like, I was just thinking, I would love to come on Wake and Jake and talk some socks and some Alice. And then between that, your star third baseman.

[Jared Karabas]

I don't know who you're talking about, because we have two of those.

[Dave Portnoy]

Right. Rafael Devers had an interview that I do think it's a little bit. The spring training. Everyone's just thirsty for anything to chew on, but also with the personalities involved. Cora, Devers, Bregman, the fun baseball content of the day was what's going on in the Red Sox hot corner. So let's get it out of the way.

[Jared Karabas]

All right, so here's what I heard. I was told that and. And maybe this is. Isn't true, but I was told that he. If. If Nolan Arenado was the move, let's say, hypothetically, Bregman signs with the Cubs, the Red Sox pull the trigger on a Nolan Arenado trade. I was told that if that scenario played out, that Devers was cool with moving off third base for Nolan Arenado.

[Dave Portnoy]

Okay.

[Jared Karabas]

Can't confirm it. That's just what I heard. Didn't hear anything about Bregman specifically, but it worked out where it's Bregman and not Nolan. So I'm thinking to myself, all right, like, I'm sure that, like, once, you know, Devers is taking ground balls at third and Bregman's taking ground balls at third, because he did today. I mean, you knew that even if he wasn't gonna be a third baseman, you're still going to see him take grounders at third. So The Boston media is looking at this as well. People haven't paid attention to the Red Sox in quite some time. So let's, let's stir some stuff up. Like, let's, let's talk about it. I knew that the Devers moving off third, having an issue with it narrative was going to be a thing, and I was trying to get out in front of it and be like, don't let this become a thing. Like, if he was cool with moving off third for Nolan, obviously he's going to be fine with moving off third for Bregman. And then day one, he shows up and he's like, nope, not doing it. Absolutely not. Won't do it.

[Dave Portnoy]

A hard no. Yeah, no.

[Jared Karabas]

Can you expand on that? Like, I play turf. So isn't it their decision, though? Like, isn't it the Red Sox decision or is it a mutual thing or so, so confused, too. He's like, a mutual thing. No, no, it's, it's my decision.

[Jess Hilarious]

Right.

[Jared Karabas]

I make the decisions around here. And that's what he said. So, like, Davidson is the translator. Love him. Great guy, but he left out the part. We didn't get to that part in the clip. But Chris Cotillo, Mass Live, he's the reporter that said, you know, well, what if they just tell you that you're, you know, playing at DH instead of third? And who isn't it their decision? And Devers actually says in Spanish, like, it's my decision. And that was not given in the translated response. So it's actually kind of a little bit worse than what was making the public rounds. But the way that I look at it is it's, it's mid February, and how often do we have drama that plays out in spring training that by the time Mother's Day rolls around, you're like, hey, remember when that was going on? Like, that was crazy, right? Like, it's just all water under the bridge at that point. I think this will be another one of those situations where, like, Cora and Rafi have such a great relationship, where they're going to iron this out. Whether or not that means that, like, at this point, I would guess Des is the opening day third baseman. But, but I don't think he finishes the season at third base. I, I, I think they're going to try to mix and match where some days Bregman's at second, some days Bregman is at third, some days maybe he, Bregman's DHing, I don't know. Or maybe he has a day off because he's kind of like a reverse splits guy. Maybe there's a lefty in the lineup and they. They go a different route. I don't know. But it. What seems kind of like a big deal right now, I think will iron itself out in due time.

[Dave Portnoy]

What's the. What's the just fan dream? Is the fan dream, like, Rafi tips the hat, he goes to dh. Maybe there's a Yoshida trade at some point and roll the ball out there, we figure it out.

[Jared Karabas]

That would be the dream. Yeah. Because I think, like, Masataki Yoshida is for better or for worse. He's a fan favorite. Like, the fans love him. But I think the fans are also smart enough to know that there's no, like, he just doesn't fit. The Red Sox have already told you, we don't want this guy to see the grass of the outfield ever again for as long as he lives. He will not do that. But then they were kind of walking it back a few weeks ago at the fan Fest. They're saying, no, we'll actually, we'll throw them out there. It's like, this is just a ploy to try to get a team to take him. Be like, no, he doesn't suck at defense. You can definitely put him in the outfield. It won't be bad. So the, the ultimate scenario to play out would be Bregman at third. Story at short. Christian Campbell breaks camp with the Red Sox to play second. Costa set first, Rafia dh. And then you find somebody to take on Yoshida's money, even if you have to eat a little bit. It's the same thing with you guys and Stroman. Like, you just already have the starting pitchers and the rotation in place. If he, like, Stroman doesn't fit in. You know, Cashman kind of backed him up, being like, no, he's. He's right. He is a starter. So we have enough starters. We don't need him to start. So does anyone else want to take this guy? Like, that'd be great. Same thing. Like, Yoshida can hit, but we just, we have a better DH, and his name's Rafael Devers. We're paying him $30 million. So the piece just doesn't fit at this point.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, I wonder if we're just going to see, because if, If I said, you know, when was it? Last Thursday. If I said, hey, Jared, let's hop on the mics. The. We probably would have opened with, whoa, Stroman. Look at some of these quotes. And now that's already Gone and some got taken out of context. I, I wonder with like the big teams in baseball if we're going to see more of the. And I guess we do see it, but I, I think teams are just looking at it differently now that, you know, Jordan Montgomery was supposed to get traded. Yoshida Stroman, that, you know, we're already starting to get the injury round. Like, we got the Frankie Montas news today. We're. There's going to be a lot. We haven't started playing ball that. There's going to be a lot more that. Yeah, man. It's so funny bringing up Yoshida's page after last year and it's like, oh, so he landed in the same spot. And like at that. That little booger can hit, man. So they're. Everything's going to figure itself out. But we're also bloodthirsty baseball fans that football's, Football's now done and now we're here. So I, I'll put the Devers thing behind us because I, I think it's going to be behind us soon because he'll be out there, he'll be hitting off Cole, he'll be hitting off everyone very soon. Dude, how are you guys? Because the socks are back.

[Jared Karabas]

Socks are like, I'm still reluctant to go there.

[Dave Portnoy]

Really?

[Jared Karabas]

Yeah, because, like, I don't know, it's like back to me means like one of the World Series favorites. And right now I think it's like, yeah, they're back in terms of when I do my predictions. Like, am I going to have them in the playoffs? Yeah, yeah. But I don't want to be like a happy to be there fan. Like, I don't want to be one of those. Okay, so back to me is when you've got fans of like the top of the top teams being like, damn, like, the Red Sox are like, we should look out for the Red Sox this year. I don't know, like, what's the pulse? Like, are Yankee fans looking at the Red Sox being like, oh, they're going to be tough in the AL east this year? I don't think so.

[Dave Portnoy]

Well, I guess I, I think there's one thing that should be thrown out there. The Dodgers should be like, illegal just for right now because a baseball kind of doesn't work that way, but they are that. So if the Dodgers are aside in the American League, I, if I'm not picking the Yankees, I think I'd pick the Red Sox. Like, Houston lost Kyle Tucker and their, their parts in, parts out is very Interesting. Like, dude, you start jumping, okay. Orioles probably deserve more love. Like how, how quickly we've kind of snapped on them.

[Jared Karabas]

Like if another dud off season for them though.

[Dave Portnoy]

Well, that's the thing. And it, but if a couple of their young guys like go again, whatever. But also, you're very much right. Like they haven't won anyone over that. Dude, I, the next team I jump to is like, Seattle finds another hitter. So if I'm already there, like, yes, like Boston, Boston is here. And I mean, dude, what about Texas?

[Jared Karabas]

Do you like Texas?

[Dave Portnoy]

I like Texas. I think everyone's gonna like Texas. I think they should bounce back. And if Lankford or Carter is there, like the Peterson signings underrated, but I don't know, I mean even in their World Series year they were what, 88 wins or something like that. So it's, I, I very much like a lot of the pieces, but I don't. Could the Red Sox be that, I mean, with, with the top of their lineup now and like what's crochet? Is, is crochet elite? Elite? Is he, is he what he was last year, which was really good and a couple blow ups, but he ran out of gas because he's young. Like, dude, yes, the Red Sox are back amongst the elite in the al and that's kind of, it sounds like dumb front office baseball nowadays, but that's.

[Jared Karabas]

The goal is to just get there.

[Dave Portnoy]

Not to get there, but like, okay, let's throw the central under the bus a little bit. Like the Guardians have been getting there. The, the Twins had been getting there. But when you get in that five or seven game set, like you're feeling okay. You're like, let's not blow one early, but you're feeling okay that, you know, the Yanks came back against the guards down to nothing. Like, I, I don't know, like the Red Sox with that lineup, the guys in that lineup, and it's going to come back to the starting pitching and does how take another step? Like if, how can crochet take another step? Then yes, absolutely.

[Jared Karabas]

I'm letting you talk.

[Dave Portnoy]

Were you just baiting me there? What was.

[Jared Karabas]

No, I'm, I'm letting you talk me into it because I think like, I, I, I'm with you on how I think and I've been saying this because people were saying, oh, like you know, the workload last year. Do you think he's going to be as good? And like I think he'll be better. I think, like, I think he could be better than he was in his all star campaign last year, crochet. It's interesting to me because, I mean, he came out day one and was like, yeah, like that innings limit, that was them. That wasn't me. He's like, I was ready to go. I would have thrown more pitches if they let me, but they didn't let me. So he was basically saying, yeah, the White Sox are dumb asses, and they wouldn't let me pitch. So if he felt like he could, then, okay, like, we'll. We'll see what that looks like this year. So I don't know. And then I think it's what's interesting about the Red Sox this year. I was just on a podcast yesterday, pod by the river, and one of the co hosts, Brady, made the point of who is the Red Sox or who is the projected Red Sox number one starter last year. And I was like, lucas Giolito. And he's like, where do you have him this year? I was like, probably five. And he was like, there you go. Like, you know, your opening day starter last year is now your number five starter. So that's. You're in a pretty good spot from a rotation standpoint. The bullpen, you can take it or leave it. They don't have an established closer. So weird having a role just Chapman on my baseball team. Yeah. I. Like, they haven't even played a game yet, and I already feel very strange. I don't even know what I'm going to do.

[Dave Portnoy]

Right.

[Jared Karabas]

Like, if. If he comes out and, you know, punches out the side and Yankee State, like, I don't even know that I can celebrate it. I kind of just have to celebrate the victory without acknowledging that he was right. The guy that did. I don't know. I feel like I. I'd be the biggest fraud in the world if I just all of a sudden was like, yeah, my guy Chappie. Like, I can't do that.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, I'm. You know, again, I. At the end of the show, I want to talk a little. A little life. Yeah. But hey, man, I. I'm pro. I'm a little happy that I'm not 24 in this current Chappie situation, because, my God, what I'd be doing on Twitter to Red Sox fans, that really, you know, Chapman was the easiest target for a while, and probably rightfully so. That. Yeah, that's one. That's one. I. I haven't fully gone to yet. Cause from the Yankee side, it's like, okay, who's he going to hit? Like, that's Going to be a fun day. And then I guess I've just put it in the. In the brain is like Red Sox have brought in. The Sox have needed pitching. Dude. And Ralst Chapman is a good left handed reliever. He. He struck out 90 something in 60 innings last year. Like he's still doing that. And I don't, I don't know what's going to happen back there. Hendrick Chapman, you guys. Slayton broke out last year.

[Jared Karabas]

Whitlock, he's nasty.

[Dave Portnoy]

But I. The Red Sox the past couple years. Cause the Red Sox have also just earned a dude when summer kicks in in Boston. There's a beautiful thing to it. I know I don't have to tell you but when that city gets the juice and the team gets the juice and they call up whatever reliever has a gross beard and they got some, some platoon guy that's going nuts. Like the baseball energy happens in Boston. And it is truly a beautiful thing that the past couple years have been like can they get that? Can they find that? They're going to have that this year, man. Like they're, they're going to have that. It's just what does, what does all the sum of the. Could Chapman be off this team in June? A thousand percent. Could Chapman be pitching in the eighth inning of a playoff game? A thousand percent. So that's. I think that's the beauty and the fun of it.

[Jared Karabas]

Yeah, I mean I just, I mean arose is Chapman closing out playoff games for me is like my kind of nightmare where it's just like yeah man, you're back. You haven't been in the playoffs since 2021. But the fate of your entire life, your livelihood falls in the hands of a roll. This Chapman, the man that you've just been crushing justifiably for the last. I don't know what decade. When Was that suspension? 17, 8, 16. 16. Yeah. So basically a decade. Like one of. One of my most viral clips of all time is me just shitting on a roll of chap. Now here he is. Have you ever crossed paths with him before?

[Dave Portnoy]

Not directly. Joe's also very strongly linked to a roll. This Chapman his probably biggest viral clip.

[Jared Karabas]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

So they've, they've always been. I mean Joe's is. Has an argument for most interesting man in the world but him and Chapman have always been like DM buddies. And also just like a step past that, like I don't know, like it's, it's a Latin guy connection and like they'll voice note each other. And it's just, like, how it works that it would always be this weird thing that, like, we'd be talking about Chapman and Joe's would be like, yeah, we talked for a little bit the other day, and you'd just be like, what? Like, neither. Neither of you should be talking to each other. That. Yeah, no, me and. Me, BBD and all the other Yankee fans have felt the. The. The bad side of. Of that experiment, especially in the postseason game. So I. I guess I understand your feelings there.

[Jared Karabas]

Yeah. I don't know. Like, out of all the. The. The trash that I've talked about him, I still don't know that he has any idea who I am, because I'm sure he gets it from all corners. I don't, like, I don't know how online he is. I mean, the. The final, like, the Altuve walk off in 19, like, that was the clip that obviously went super viral. Like, I remember Bill Burr was talking about it on his podcast, so if it crossed his dash, it would have been that. But I don't think that he would have been able to, like, see me in person and be like, oh, you're. You're the guy from that video. I don't think that he would make the connection if I told them that I was like, hey, I'm the guy from that video. I think, oh, you're that dude. But I don't think he would just, like, see me in the wild and be like, that's him. Because I. I ran into him. Not this past off season. The off season before, he was at Pedro's charity event, and we were standing right next to each other, and he's.

[Dave Portnoy]

Not a big guy, so he is a mountain of.

[Jared Karabas]

Yes, he is a very large human being. But. Yeah, no, he didn't say anything to me. Nothing.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, I bet his Internet algorithm, he loves weightlifting. And, like, doesn't he have a ton of white cars? Wasn't that a day in our office? Yeah, there's so. I don't know. Could.

[Jared Karabas]

There's like, a whole white room in his apartment.

[Dave Portnoy]

Could be a good starting point for you guys. I mean, maybe you just leave it. Maybe just.

[Jared Karabas]

I'm probably going to have to just leave it.

[Dave Portnoy]

Maybe you just leave that over there.

[Jared Karabas]

I'm just gonna have to leave it.

[Dave Portnoy]

What's the. What's the story that Red Sox people are talking about that the rest of baseball would be interested in? Like, is it. Does Trevor story's in a. In a really interesting spot this year, in my opinion. Like, is It. I. I don't know. I guess open forum for you.

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[Jared Karabas]

Well, I think the. The most interesting story outside of the Devers drama today is, I believe today was the deadline that Vladi Jr. Gave the blue Jays to extend him or not.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yes.

[Jared Karabas]

And as far as I've seen, that hasn't happened. And if he does not sign that extension with the Blue Jays, word on the street is that the Red Sox are going to be all in on Vladdy Jr. So what does that mean for a guy like Tristan Casas? Right, because these rumors were going on before Bregman was even in the fold. So before it was like, all right, if, if that were to happen, you signed Vladdy to play first, then Casas is your dh. And like, I don't. I don't even know what you do. Like, you basically have to trade Tristan Casas. Now, if you sign Vlad Jr. I don't see Alex Bregman opting out of $40 million next year. So if you're still going to be the team that's all in on Vladdy, then I don't know. I think that, that, that, that, like, are we watching the last season of Tristan? I mean, they tried to trade him multiple times this past winter, so it's not like it would come as a surprise if the Red Sox traded Casas, but I don't know how that would work. Like, do you trade them first and then sign Vladdy? You don't want to sign Vladdy and then have the teams be like, well, we know, like, we have the leverage now. We know that you need to trade them. So. Yeah, I don't know.

[Dave Portnoy]

I. I don't know. I. Well, if that happens, I. You guys will be happy. But I, I just think. I think you guys have it. And I. I don't know what the next steps are, but, like, the Bregman opting out thing is funny. If Alex Bregman ops out, that means this year went very well for you guys. That means, yeah, Alex Bregman went nuts this year, and maybe he will at Fenway. We've seen, I mean Tyler O'Neill, we've seen like past couple years. If you're a righty hitter and you get the saw, you get that Boston Summit kid that if Braggy gets that, then yeah. But I don't know. I think they're going to let this play out because we, we talked about the corner infield slash second base with Bragman moving, moving chairs. Talked about they got prospects on the way, man, that I don't. The Red Sox are set up that I think they're gonna let baseball happen and whether that's injuries and okay, story gets banged up another, another time then. All right, then we need a full, another plan. Cause that's not working. That they've got the prospect capital, they've got the talent on the field that like all the plans have now come together, gather, giving him some time. Like that group of prospects are here. They've invested in some players that. I don't know, man, I guess I, you know, I respect the, the calm, cool, collected nature of it, but I think looking around the al, Boston's, Boston's the scariest team right now, which the previous times that's happened in our like Yankees existence, it's been bad news for the Yankees.

[Jared Karabas]

Yeah, I, I think if you were to draw a comparison right now, I think the 2025 Red Sox are most comparable to the 2018 Braves because that team, that cordon went and they, they won it without acuna. But like they didn't win their World Series until 2021. But when they started calling up the kids in 18 and they were like, oh man, like everyone knew how good the Braves were going to be.

[Dave Portnoy]

Right.

[Jared Karabas]

But then they were kind of good right away and they were early, so their window had opened much sooner than I think a lot of fans anticipated. But, but inevitably they didn't get their championship in until like three years later. I think that you could see something like that with the Red Sox this year. Like you, you sign Bregman to a con, it's three years, it's 40 million a year. But there's opt outs after every year. So theoretically it could be a one year, $40 million like contract. You don't do something like that unless you're trying to win the World Series that year. So yeah, like I think the Red Sox could fall ass backwards into an ALCS like they did in 2021. Like no one thought that team was, you know, a World Series contender coming off of. They always come off horrendous seasons and then it's like World Series, you know, like in. What was it in 2012, they were horrendous then they won the world series in 13 and then they were back to back last place teams. 14, 15. Then they hauled off three straight division titles with a World Series title at the end. So that's just what happens. Like they were horrendous in 2020 and then they've kind of just fell ass backwards into the ALCS in 2021. I, I could see something like that where you know, they, they lose in six in the ALCS or something like that just because they caught fire and they have young kids who don't know any better. They've got Bregman, a guy who's been there, done that and has a history of. He's never not played in the playoffs. Bregman, he's playing the playoffs every year of his big league career. So that matters. Like that stuff, that stuff counts. So yeah, that's why I'm comfortable with putting them in the playoffs. If they don't win the World Series. I'm not like man, like we fell short of the goal, you know, Like I think the goal is win just like have a winning season. It's been, it's been years since even just having a winning season.

[Dave Portnoy]

So yeah, yeah, that's, that's fair about the World Series expectation because it's, it's not. And I guess that's a little bit that has me more scared because a Boston team that gets to play truly with their hair on fire, that's when. And dude, I don't know.

[Jared Karabas]

Nothing to lose.

[Dave Portnoy]

You're, you're talking about Chapman coming in. I'm. I'm thinking about whatever Matt Blake, reliever project is coming in and it's like, hey, go get Devers and Bregman in the eighth. Like I just, I've seen that story, seen that story a lot in the past couple years. It hasn't been as scary just with how the division has played out. And I just think, I think there's going to be a few of those at bats this year which will be exciting and I. That's. It's good for the game, Jared. And that's what we are. We are the shield. What do you. What else in the AL East? What do you think people need to be talking about it? Is it like the post hype Orioles are. Is there any raise fear anymore? Did the Blue Jays do something?

[Jared Karabas]

I mean, I guess, I guess we can kind of talk a little bit about the Blue Jays and how they tried like you bring in Max Scherzer, Tony Taters, you give him what, five years and Vladi's still here. You didn't move off of him, which is interesting to say the least. When you didn't get the extension done, maybe, maybe they thought they were going to and it just didn't work out that way. I don't know. I don't know what their line of thinking was, but he's still there. Can Boba Shet bounce back? I believe he can. I think that he still has like an.800 ops ish season in him. Whether or not that amounts to a winning record, I mean, at the end of the day, it should. Like, I think I picked the Blue Jays last year to win the division. I'm pretty sure I did, like, just based on their rotation. Yeah, I, I, but we're also looking at a team that if they're not in it by the deadline, Vlad is going to be a piece for somebody, you know, like, that's going to be, that might be the, the crown jewel of the trade deadline is Vladdy if the Blue Jays aren't in it.

[Dave Portnoy]

So yeah, the, the Blue Jays are interesting because they, they also, they brought in Andres Jimenez. So it's like they, they have a weird. The second half of their lineup. Scary. But they also have guys that are going to contribute in Jimenez and Kirk that like Var Show, I know he's out to start the year, but like those guys Floors, because they're so good defensively, is like three WAR seasons. So if one of those guys has a year offensively, Santander, man, how long have they been looking for that? Like, we were talking about the top of that lineup for years. Get, get the lefty. And they kind of put their chips on, on Varsho, which was kind of just like, hey, I think Varsho is a nice player, but I don't think he's going to break up the Bichette. Vlad Springer. So I don't know. I think, I think the Blue Jays, they just need a good two months, man. Cause if they don't, you're right. Like people, Vladdy's the dream chip at the deadline that they'll get a ton of offers. I think Bassett's on his final year Bichette like they could. If they want to retool, if they want to retool this thing, they can with how the wild card set up, this team should be around it. And I think they're gonna end up in a. Unfortunately, this is a sad comparison for them. I think they're Gonna be in the same camp as the Angels with Shohei. Like, hey, we're kind of near it and this could be our last year with Vlad. Like, let's do it. And hey, I hope the Angel. The Angels are rarely the example. They're usually the bad example. That maybe that could be different for Toronto because I do. Maybe I get too romantic with the old pitchers, but, like, I see, you know, Bassett Burrios, like, let's.

[Jared Karabas]

Let's put together.

[Dave Portnoy]

Let's put together a season. Boys that I. I don't know. I guess for me, I wonder how worried I should be about them just in the division because, you know, I.

[Jared Karabas]

Don'T want to sleep on them. I'm certainly not sleeping on them. I think. I think when. When you have kind of like season rollover expectations, that's where you kind of get in trouble a little bit. It's like, oh, well, they were bad last year, so they'll be bad this year. Well, no, that they're a different team this year and you don't know how it's going to play out. And they might have that same mentality that you were just talking about where it's like, hey, guys, like, we're seeing the writing on the wall here. The people. Baseball fans were looking at, like, the legacy J's as a window, and people were very excited about it. And there were some postseason births there. Was there a run? I don't think you could say that there was a run. Like, there was. No, like, maybe 20, 21 was that one year where like, the regular season run was exciting. Like, I think they came up on, like, the. They came up short on the very last day and didn't get in. But this is it, you know, like, they. The. The veterans in that room might be looking around saying, this is our last shot. And that's motivating to a lot of different guys.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. And you wonder. It's the cool stuff we still want in sports. Like Scherzer being in that locker room. Like, that should matter, you know, And I hope it does. Like, I hope. I hope it's June 5th and the story that comes out is like, you know, why Max Scherzer is the reason the Blue Jays are in it this year? Because there's still. There's still something fun about it. Like when Bushette's balling out. And again, the Tony Taters factor, man, like, that was 44 last year. Yeah, yeah. Like I. You kind of alluded to it. There's a little bit. There's a little bit of like, not wanting it to work for the Orioles just because they're not doing it the fun way. Like, right, like Corbin Burns and Santander left, and they're just like, all right, Sugana, Charlie Morton. Yeah, go out there and twirl it. Like.

[Jared Karabas]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

And I don't know, I. I think they do have smart people running their team that maybe they have it figured out, but I kind of hope the people running Toronto have more than we think.

[Jared Karabas]

Yeah. Like, at least, at least when you had the Legacy Jays window, the Blue Jays tried. Like, they, they wanted Juan Soto, they wanted Shohei Ohtani. They just couldn't get anyone to take their money. Now you have the Jackson Holiday era of the Baltimore Orioles, and yeah, like, they've pretty much hit on everyone who's. Who's come up. But what have you done to supplement this team? Like, I gave them a ton of credit for the Corbin Burns trade, but did you extend them? No. And I don't think that. I don't even put that on the Orioles because from everything that was out there, there's no chance he was. He would have rather pitch on the moon than on the east coast of the United States. So, yeah, like, I, I don't totally fault them for, for not keeping Corbin Burns there, but what else did you do? Like, did you. Did you go get Max free? Like, did you try to get Blake Snell? Like, that's where, you know, you walk away from. With all the hype, all the prospects, and you lose your ace and you replace them with like, how old is Charlie Morton now? 41, 50?

[Dave Portnoy]

I don't.

[Jared Karabas]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

Charlie Morton wanted to retire five years ago and he was too good.

[Jared Karabas]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

The Braves kept paying him and he's like, well, I guess I gotta do this. Yeah. My friend, until age 30, I didn't think I was gonna stick in the league. And now he's had an amazing over second half. That's crazy.

[Jared Karabas]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. There. I haven't done it this off season yet. It's one of my favorite games to play is, like, when you put the off seasons on paper and you're right, like the Corbin Burns, you can't. Because he wanted to go there. But you know that Tyler O'Neal, Charlie Morton, Sugano. Could that have been one Max Freed and someone else? And that's. It's just, it's interesting. Like, how should we be talking about it when, I don't know, is Charlie Morton gonna give us another dog season? And we're like, okay, maybe the Orioles are half smart, but that's the beauty of this time of year.

[Jared Karabas]

I'm not saying that Charlie Morton can't give you a good season, but is he going to give you a Coleman Burns would have gave you. I don't think so.

[Dave Portnoy]

I don't think so.

[Jared Karabas]

Would have been a little disappointed. If I'm an Orioles fan, who's who should be more disappointed, Orioles fans or Mariners fans? They didn't do Mariners.

[Dave Portnoy]

Thousand percent Mariners. They're doing. They're doing the same game plan that hasn't come close to working now.

[Jared Karabas]

They. They. So I get it. Like, similarly to Corbin Burns, where he was just determined to pitch on the west coast and sounded like he really wanted to be in Arizona. Pete Alonzo. Everyone's like, well, why don't they just pay Pete Alonzo? They need offense. Why don't you go pay him? He. He would have played in Korea before he played for another team other than the Mets, it seems. So I can't blame them for that. But I. I come back to Santander. How do you not make something like that happen? Dude, pop 44 homers. You guys need offense. Pay the dude. Then you also had the trade scenarios with the Red Sox. They have a plethora of starting pitching. And the Red Sox were like, hey, do you want Casas? They're like, no. The Red Sox were like, do you want Casas and Yoshida? And they were like, no.

[Dave Portnoy]

So, okay.

[Jared Karabas]

I'm pretty pissed if I'm a Mariners fan. Like, it's like we have a very clear, desperate need and there were multiple paths to. To make that situation better for us in 2025, and we did nothing to improve.

[Dave Portnoy]

Well, they extended Victor Robles after his good. That's big times last year. So.

[Jared Karabas]

That's big time.

[Dave Portnoy]

I got ahead of business on that one. Yeah. I don't. I'm rooting for you, Victor Robles, but that's no, man. If I was a Mariners fan, I would be furious. We. We have the most important asset in the game, but we refuse to get any of the other assets. They're like, this is a bad comparison. But it's like they're. You're playing Settlers of Catan with someone who just keeps like the sheep or some shit.

[Jared Karabas]

That's what I was going to say. I was going to use that.

[Dave Portnoy]

I haven't played that in so long. That had a moment. A minute.

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[Jared Karabas]

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[Dave Portnoy]

Moment that should have broken me, but just because of how I was raised and my bullishness and arrogance to want to be great hardened me, it gave me a platform to be so singularly focused on greatness. We all have moments like this. Something happens that's supposed to break us, but it's in these moments that we discover what we're really made of. I promise you, if anyone knows this, it's me. I'm Ashlin Harris. Jared. We were joking beforehand that we were like, you know, I felt like I was bumping into you at least like quarterly, like, okay, I'll see you at this thing. Winter meetings. That slowed down. Don't like that.

[Jared Karabas]

I don't like that either.

[Dave Portnoy]

I think we'll find our way of Fenway this year. How are you doing? Because I, I want to go back a little bit and hey, if we. I asked for 30, but if we want to open up the board. But I, I mean even open up, even going back to the end of Barstool, it was, you know, you had the itch. You wanted to get back up to Boston. That was pretty. That was pretty clear.

[Jared Karabas]

Pretty clear. Did not love New York here.

[Dave Portnoy]

You're back there. Baseball is dead. Section 10, MLB Network. Nessen, we got radio stuff Underdog. So you're out. You know, you got your hands in different, different parts of different things. I mean, I want to get to the real life stuff, but I guess work life, like, how are you doing with everything?

[Jared Karabas]

It's great, man. I. I get to do most of from home. So I'm doing. I'll be on LMB Network tomorrow morning at 9:15. So like I'm doing stuff with them. Like this is all stuff that I just wasn't allowed to do.

[Dave Portnoy]

Right.

[Jared Karabas]

They didn't want me in. In. There's like other places like sponsors and freelance gigs where they didn't want to touch me because I was at Barstool. Right. So now I have the opportunity to do a little bit of a mixed bag of everything, which is awesome. Like, I've, like, I've been such a. Like I send the producer. Like, are you on Facebook?

[Dave Portnoy]

I'm on the Facebook, yeah.

[Jared Karabas]

So. So I had the Facebook. So I like, I'll look at my memories every morning and every once in a while like something will pop up and be like 16 years ago you said like, I love MLB Network and like this is the best. And it was like that first year that it came out, right? And like I'll always like send the producer. Be like, dude, like, I'm serious. Like I've been like a day consumer of this product, so it's crazy to be able to even pop on for 15 minutes at a time every three months or whatever. So doing. That's cool. And then we did the first ever Red Sox alternate broadcast last summer, which was fun. It had its pros and cons. You know, I think the stuff that we got to do that was like, our idea was fun. There was kind of just you know, like trying to figure out what it is was. Yes, a little bit of the difficulty where it's like, all right, like you want to be different, you want to obviously be the polar opposite of the traditional broadcast, but how much is too much? You know, like, we want to be able to deliver an entertaining product, but we don't want, like, if people are watching us like they care about baseball. So, like, we don't want to get away from baseball. You know what I mean? So I think we did that a little bit too much of that at certain points. And then, yeah, like, I do the stuff with Tony Maz, but yeah, getting Section 10 back was very, very key to my happiness. Like, if I didn't, it would not have been the same. If. If it's like, all right, yeah, me, Steve, Coley and Tyler, like, we all got back together but like, couldn't be called that. Like, I would just feel like a piece of me was missing. Like if I. If. If you like, couldn't use your government name anymore and they just gave you a different name. Like, I don't even like answer to that. Like, I'm just. It doesn't make sense. So, yeah, I'm just happy that we have that going and then being able to do baseball is dead with Dallas. And then we have J. Hey in there. And Joey, who is he does the baseball doesn't exist YouTube channel, right? I just like was a big fan of his YouTube channel and I was like, you've got a. Your brain is so weird. I need it in podcast format. So that's how he. He joined us a few years ago. So I just, I feel like we have the best lineup that at of any point in my career. Like if I could hand pick like you know, an all star team of co host and producers from since day one that I started, that's who's working with us today. So it's. It's awesome. Very happy with it.

[Dave Portnoy]

That's awesome, man. And hey, I again, wake and Jake, dude, you're with the girl. Like I, you know, I could bring out some of the married to the game stuff. Like, you know, there's no need for it. But yeah, you're doing the damn thing. And I again, social media. Okay, this part's going to get off on the wrong foot. Social media is a little bit of bullshit. You know, people are sometimes a lot of people are exhibiting a fake part of their life for a different reason or whatever it is. I don't know, man. I, I like to think I've got a good meter for it. And I mean, you're smiling, you're dad and like you're.

[Jared Karabas]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

You're loving life, dude.

[Jared Karabas]

Yeah, she's great. She. So we, we met in high school. Like, obviously I think anyone that's consumed my content over the years is not used to seeing me in a relationship because like, either I wasn't public with it or it wasn't serious enough to like post anyway. Pretty much my entire adult life. I think, like the last relationship that I posted was over 10 years ago. Like 2013 was probably the last time I was like public with it. So people are seeing it now and there's far more people paying attention these days than in 2013. So that's how it ends up on like Reddit posts. And people are like, oh yeah, like she's a gold digger, blah, blah. And it's like little do you know, like we had Spanish class together in 2006. Like I've known her for a long time. She does not give a about my career. Like, like she knows Skinny Jared from Saga's High. Like that is, that's who she like still sees. Like she's totally unfazed by anything that has to do with like what I told you about the Pedro Martinez thing. That like charity foundation gala that we went to. She was sitting next to like Jason Veritech and like Jim Rice and she didn't even know, like just not even like she's. Yeah. So it's cool to kind of have like it's been important for me to have that separation finally because when I was at barstool living in New York City, it was just non stop. 247 career job, blog, podcast, tweet, Instagram, and just having, you know, work panic attacks in your sleep every single night and waking up in a panic every single morning thinking that you missed something. Yeah, like when, when Stanton got traded to the Yankees. I don't know if you remember that night, but that was, I believe it was in December. And the, the rumors started at probably 10pm and then we went to Village Tavern in New York and they bars don't close till 4am so we're all hammered, scrolling, trying to get updates on Stan to the Yankees because at the time that was my Favorite baseball player. I was like, if my favorite baseball player goes to the Yankees, this is gonna be terrible. And stayed up until 5am Just hammered, waiting for some news to break. Went to sleep, set my alarm for eight. But like the news broke at 7am and Dave was pissed at me that I wasn't blogging it at 7am I was like, Bro, it's. It's 7am On a Saturday or Sunday morning. Like, that's a little crazy, but that just creates the, the panic in you to always be looking at your phone. But yeah, like this relationship, like, I've just kind of trained myself like there's work, life and then there's just be at home and live in the moment life. And I've never, I've never been able to do before.

[Dave Portnoy]

It's.

[Jared Karabas]

I've never, like. I think I still probably work as many hours. I'm just not thinking about work when I put my phone down for the first time.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I. Very relatable feelings.

[Jared Karabas]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

On every end of the spectrum. It's. Yeah, we still, I mean, Twitter's, Twitter's changed a lot and it's, it's, it can be just brutal sometimes Now I think we, we're a lot better than we were for a little bit, especially getting everything off the ground because it's like, you know, you're just fight for your life mode now. It's like, hey, you know, Max Freed rumors are actually happening. And when the clock turns to 11:30pm on a Tuesday, you're like, okay, so are we, Are we doing this? Are we not? Are we. Is there, is there a West coast sports game I can watch till 12:30 and try to. Try to stay up just in case or not, but.

[Jared Karabas]

Right.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, man, that's a wild feeling. And I know, I know you're. You're one of the few guys that truly does know that feeling because a lot of fans know that feeling too, but they also don't have to hop in front of a mic afterwards or, you know, I, there's some nights I like to indulge in a weed gummy just to help with my, you know, my cataracts and that's, you know. Okay, now I've got to talk about their fit on the Yankees and all that. That again, it's, you know, I'm not a big blessings guy, but the fact that we get to do that is very cool. But it's Also those, the 300 nights something doesn't happen. It's also a little anxiety filled, which sometimes not as fun, right?

[Jared Karabas]

Yeah. Like, they're like, you're sitting there and it's December 19th and it's 10:45 at night and we're watching our show, but I've got like, my phone is like on my knee just in case it goes off. And it's like, is that really necessary? And it's like, you don't understand. Like I could get a phone call or FaceTime from someone being like, hey, I just got traded to the Red Sox, or hey, I just signed with the Red Sox. And that could mean the difference of, you know, that's like a career, right? Booster thing that could happen. And you just have to be available. It's like being a doctor, you just have to be ready to roll at all times. When the Red Sox traded for Garrett Crochet, my girlfriend's youngest daughter had a cheer competition in Disney. So we were in Disney at the time. And we're live streaming, doing an emergency podcast while I'm in line for Winnie and the Pooh. Right? And you just have to be with someone that understands like, this is just how it is sometimes, you know, like, like I can turn it off as much as I possibly can. But you also have to understand, like, there is at times no turning it off, like in emergency podcasts as emergency podcasts for a reason. We're in line for Winnie the Pooh. That's part of the emergency aspect of it. Right. But yeah, she doesn't care. I mean, I think one of the big things like you mentioned the west coast stuff is when she goes to bed, I'm like, I'm going to bed. You know, like I, before I would stay up until like if There was a 17 inning game, Dodgers, Padres, and it's 2:30 in the morning. Yeah, when she goes to bed, I go to bed and it's, yeah, like, I'll, I'll watch the highlights in the morning. Like, I now, like, I don't need to watch every single game, every single night. Like, that's just not necessary. So, yeah, like, there's been some. And like the pitch clock too has been great, by the way. Not to, not to just credit her, but the pitch clock has been fantastic for having a life. You know, like before, if the games were ending at 10:45, 11:00pm now they might end at 10:15. You're like, I could, I could squeeze in an episode of Ray Donovan before I go to sleep now. Like, why not? Yeah. So it's, it's definitely been, it's definitely been different. It's Been nice, but a nice change of pace.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah. And that the breaking stuff, it's like, that's kind of the fun stuff. And I, I think it's cool that I think both of us have our supporters that I think now being in line for Winnie the Pooh is an additive. Where.

[Jared Karabas]

Yes.

[Dave Portnoy]

That, that that note has changed. Where early on it's like, dude, what are you doing? We just, we just signed them and you're at Winnie the Pooh. Where now it's like, dude, Jared's at Winnie the Pooh. He's talking about. Ah. And like, I'm, I'm glad that that shift has happened because that's, that's. I know for a few of our trades and stuff, that's made it a lot easier. Like, dude, just pick up the phone, say, get your thoughts out. It's going to be okay. The audio is not perfect. Well, hey, man, I'm, I'm glad we did this and I'm glad I got this. Too long, man. But you got.

[Jared Karabas]

We got to do. We got to do a home and home. We got to get you on to. To do the same. Break down some Yankees.

[Dave Portnoy]

Let me know. I. I'm. I'm beloved and hated by, by the people. So if it's.

[Jared Karabas]

I don't know that that's true.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, I, I fly under the radar and I just, you know, someone's like, John Boy. I'm like, yeah, that guy. Right? No, I, I haven't seen Peralta for. I don't know what's happening. Am I the problem?

[Jared Karabas]

No. So I'll be honest with you.

[Dave Portnoy]

Where's Dallas been? Where have I been that.

[Jared Karabas]

Well, because now Dallas is doing like 150 something games. Barely see. Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

That's nuts, by the way.

[Jared Karabas]

Yeah.

[Dave Portnoy]

Like, it's awesome, but it's nuts.

[Jared Karabas]

Yeah. Like, he's doing. He's doing like 150 games, whatever it is. But last year was probably the least amount of games that I went to in person at Fenway, maybe since I was like, in high school.

[Dave Portnoy]

Wow. Yeah.

[Jared Karabas]

Yeah. Like, that, like, it was just. It was bad vibes and everyone was just kind of like, life is happening. And like, Steve goes to the Cape a lot during the summertime.

[Dave Portnoy]

Must be nice. Steve.

[Jared Karabas]

Yeah, I think his family has like a Cape house that, like, they go to. And Coley's up in Maine. He just had his third kid, so he had a. He had a newborn over the summer. There was just a lot happening.

[Dave Portnoy]

We're all uncs now, man. It's.

[Jared Karabas]

We're getting up there. We're getting up there. Life. Life certainly has happened in the last few years for, for all of us baseball content creators.

[Dave Portnoy]

Still waiting for my beard. But one day it's coming. It's coming.

[Jared Karabas]

I still have faith in it.

[Dave Portnoy]

Yeah, Jared, thank you, man. Yeah. Let whatever you need and we'll talk to you soon, man.

[Jared Karabas]

Let's do it.

[Dave Portnoy]

Appreciate you. The more you listen to your kids, the closer you'll be. Find resources to help you support your kids and their emotional well being at.

[Jess Hilarious]

Sounded out together.org that's sounded out together.org.

[Dave Portnoy]

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[Martin Luther King III]

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[Dave Portnoy]

Hey, it's Alec Baldwin.

[Jared Karabas]

This season on my podcast, here's the.

[Dave Portnoy]

Thing, I speak with musician, photographer and philanthropist Julian Lennon. One of the really important things that happened to me with photography was I would have people write to me, people that couldn't financially afford to travel the world. And what they had all said to me is that you bring these stories to us. You bring the truth, you bring cultures that we would never necessarily know anything about.

[Martin Luther King III]

Listen to the new season of here's.

[Dave Portnoy]

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