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Dan Patrick (3:52)

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Oh, come on in. Stay a while. It's hour one on Tuesday. Dan and the Danets Dan Patrick Show. Everybody's here. Fritzy's here, Seaton's here. Marvin Paulie, the back room guy, Morales. Get up.

Seaton (4:09)

Let's get it going.

Dan Patrick (4:09)

Come on.

Lewis Riddick (4:10)

Get up, Dan.

Dan Patrick (4:10)

Come on. Fight. Come on.

Seaton (4:13)

I can't hear you. Make some noise. Get up.

Dan Patrick (4:17)

No, we can't use. Get up.

Lewis Riddick (4:18)

Dak is back.

Seaton (4:19)

Oh, that's right.

Dan Patrick (4:19)

No, the mothership is going to come.

Seaton (4:21)

Come on, Dan Nation, let's hear you on your feet.

Dan Patrick (4:24)

On your feet.

Seaton (4:24)

Defense.

Lewis Riddick (4:26)

Defense.

Seaton (4:26)

Let's make noise.

Dan Patrick (4:29)

You guys done holiday week?

Lewis Riddick (4:31)

This morale is high.

Seaton (4:32)

I got a good three hours of that left if you need it.

Dan Patrick (4:35)

Good. Don't use it all up today. Save some for tomorrow. All right, so we'll have a play of the day. Poll question stat of the day. Reggie Miller will stop by. Chris Collinsworth will stop by. Lewis Riddick, the mothership will stop by. Your phone calls are always welcome. 8773-DP-Show, email address dp@danpatrick.com Twitter handle @dp DP first hour brought to you by Mako. You're still driving that trusty old ride. How about you make it look sharper, get rid of the dents, the faded paint. They've literally got you covered. Get a free estimate today. Oh, better get Mako calendars. They're going fast. Autograph non autographed calendars available@danpatrick.com also check out the tailgate store our moonshine and you can get an autograph calendar with select tailgate purchases while supplies last. As always. Stat of the day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, our streaming partner or the NBC Sports network, and we say good morning to our radio affiliates, iHeartRadio, Fox Sports Radio, just to name a few. Over 400 cities in America that carry this program. Alrighty. Monday Night Football. The Niners beat the panthers. They're now 8 and 4. Are the Niners good? Are they relevant? Are they threatening? Because I'm watching and I would say, are they good? They're good. Ish. Are they relevant? They got Christian McCaffrey. Are they threatening? I would say no. Brock Purdy did not look good. He did not look pretty in the first half. How about that, Todd?

Lewis Riddick (6:15)

Okay. I've heard it a couple times before.

Dan Patrick (6:18)

Oh, you have?

Lewis Riddick (6:19)

You know what? It's Thanksgiving week.

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Lewis Riddick (6:21)

I'll give you a blue.

Dan Patrick (6:22)

You have your Thanksgiving T shirt on. I do have my Thanksgiving T shirt. I found it way in the back of the closet. I could use an ironing, but I might not. Speaking of repeat material. Okay. You know my trainer. Yeah. It's the holidays. Let's not. Larry Bird. Who else do you have? Jack Ham. Jack Ham. We got Mark Eaton, Matt Holiday, Tim McCarver. Good times. Thank you, John.

Lewis Riddick (6:45)

Welcome.

Dan Patrick (6:45)

By trainer, the paint. The Panthers now 6 and 6. The Niners, though, at 8 and 4 and they're in a tough division. Do I think they're as good as the Rams? No. Seattle? No. They're better than the Cardinals. But you're watching and it's a wounded team. First of all, they made the mistake with Brandon Iuk, who I was thinking $30 million, let him go and they brought him back. You got rid of Debo. You got Bosa's injured, Fred Warner's injured. I don't know how they're doing it, but give credit. McCaffrey gives you a little bit of running, a little bit of pass receiving. George Kittle has played pretty well, they're just not threatening, but they will be relevant because of Christian McCaffrey. Are they good? They're good. Ish. And maybe good enough to get into the postseason, but still, you could end up with 10 wins and maybe not get in because Seattle, Seattle's a really good team. And we know the Rams might be the best team in football. College football rankings coming out later on tonight. Mac Football tonight, Baker Mayfield has a shoulder sprain. Shador Sanders named the starter for the Cleveland Browns. They play the 49ers and they host the 49ers. And JJ McCarthy is in concussion protocol. And I do believe there's something up with the Vikings. It's not just the health of J.J. mcCarthy because he was injured all last year's rookie year, then came back and then they got rid of their backup quarterbacks and it was all on J.J. mcCarthy. And we talked about this at the start of the season. I talked about the pressure, the most pressure on players coming into this year. And J.J. mcCarthy was at the top of my list or certainly in that top five because it's your team. Even though you didn't get to ease in to your career, your career starts now. And you're all of a sudden looking around going, I've got a couple of wide receivers here and my backups are gone. They have entrusted me with this team that was a really good team the previous year. And can I maintain that? They got rid of Sam Darnold because of two games, the last two games, the regular season and the postseason. And now you're going to say to J.J. mcCarthy, not known as a passing quarterback, certainly in college. And now you're saying to him, we're going to entrust you with this offense and you're lucky. You got Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison. Most quarterbacks don't get that luxury. But he's been average, below average. Now he's in concussion protocol. And you start to wonder, bigger picture here with J.J. mcCarthy, is he who the Vikings thought he was? Now, granted, it's a small sample size, but you, this is the way of the NFL now. You get two years, maybe you get three years and you either get that long term contract or all of a sudden you're going to be a backup quarterback somewhere and you're going to hit the reset button. It's too early to say that with J.J. mcCarthy, but he did get sacked five times. He got hit a total of 10 times in their game against Green Bay, but I don't see it yet. There's certain times when I've watched a quarterback and you go, oh, I get it. There are other times when you go, I'm not sure yet. And I'm, I'm, I'm at that point with J.J. mcCarthy, I'm just not sure. And there are times when he'll make a play and you go, wow, that's great. And then there'll be times when you go, that's not correct. I got too many of those and not enough of, wow, that's great. And you do have an offensive minded head coach. And so he has a benefit. I mean, he's got all the benefits here. Half your games you're playing indoors. Now, granted, you're playing in a tough division. You got maybe the best receiver in football. But your backups now out. Carson Wentz. And the Vikings season seems to be all but over. But watching that, seeing that, and he didn't go into the blue tent in the game against Green Bay. There wasn't one hit. I guess he came up to the coach on the plane ride home and said, I don't feel well. They put him in concussion protocol. Now, that's not to say he didn't suffer something or get his bell rung or maybe stayed in the game. Maybe they didn't realize that he had onset concussion symptoms there. But he's out. And Minnesota's. They're probably going to get to a crossroads at some point. Maybe by the end of the year. On. Is he our guy? Because right now it doesn't look like that. Alrighty, Seaton, what's the poll question for hour one?

Seaton (11:33)

Well, we got a Whopper here for number one.

Dan Patrick (11:35)

Wow. Okay.

Seaton (11:36)

Division most likely to win the super bowl. Afc.

Dan Patrick (11:40)

Okay.

Seaton (11:41)

Paul just sent this over this morning. This is a Whopper.

Dan Patrick (11:44)

Okay.

Seaton (11:48)

Now you go through the AFC and see which one.

Dan Patrick (11:51)

Oh, oh, I didn't know if you were gonna say, like AFC north, which most likely South.

Seaton (11:56)

Yeah, yeah, there you go.

Dan Patrick (11:58)

Yeah. AFC East.

Seaton (12:00)

Right.

Dan Patrick (12:00)

Okay.

Seaton (12:01)

If you see west, also an option there.

Dan Patrick (12:04)

All right. I'd still say the AFC West. I mean, you got Denver and you got Kansas City.

Seaton (12:11)

I'm gonna say AFC east, actually.

Dan Patrick (12:13)

Okay.

Seaton (12:14)

Because partially because the Bills are really good. Patriots also have a very easy schedule. Okay. So they can kind of. They might be able to set themselves up where they really just have to win a couple games here.

Dan Patrick (12:25)

All right, Pie to the face.

Seaton (12:28)

I'll pie to the face that. Plus we all know the Chiefs aren't making the playoffs anyway, so.

Dan Patrick (12:32)

Well, you did, you did make that prediction at the start of the year.

Seaton (12:35)

That's why? I've never been more invested in a Colts game in my entire. And I. It's one of the few times in recent memory I actually semi yelled at the tv.

Dan Patrick (12:46)

Oh, when the Colts let that slip away.

Seaton (12:49)

Oh, my gosh, dude. Yeah. Risha Rice grabs that ball across the middle and goes down like God.

Dan Patrick (12:53)

There it is. That's a game.

Seaton (12:55)

This is how they win the Super Bowl. That one stupid match.

Dan Patrick (12:57)

I know, damn it. We might look back and go, damn.

Seaton (13:00)

That'S going to be the game.

Dan Patrick (13:01)

They got to the super bowl again.

Seaton (13:02)

Patrick Mahomes gonna be like, you know.

Dan Patrick (13:04)

After that game, after the Colts game.

Lewis Riddick (13:05)

We really galvanized, we really came together.

Dan Patrick (13:07)

No, I think he sounds a little bit more like this. Yeah, we're going to get this back together again. I think we're going to be okay. Don't worry about it. You always find a way to win at the end. 877, three DP show operators sitting by. Tyler will take your phone calls and we'll settle on a poll question. Reggie, Chris Collinsworth, who just had his 500th game NFL game, and Lewis Riddick will join us from the mothership coming up. By the way, Oklahoma City is 17 and 1. That's one of those why the Pistons have won 13 in a row. Two years ago they won a total of 14 games. They won 13 in a row. Just little basketball there. Joker had another triple double. But we'll talk some hoops a little bit later on. Speaking of basketball, random text last night and it came from one of the Danets and I was like, man, who sent this? At first I thought Marvin sent this, and then I realized Seaton sent it and he was talking about the Brooklyn Nets and how irrelevant they are. And aside From Michael Porter Jr. III, it. It looks like a college team that got the death penalty where they took away all their players. Like, there are certain college teams that I know more players on their. I know more players on Duke than I do the Brooklyn Nets. And that is kind of remarkable that you're watching the Brooklyn Nets and I'm thinking Bill Simmons on his podcast said the Columbus Blue Jackets are the most irrelevant professional franchise. And I would argue it's the Brooklyn Nets because even though they're in the New York City area, they are irrelevant. At least Columbus has had some success. Brooklyn is terrible.

Seaton (14:54)

They were like turning that on that on that game. I put on Knicks Nets for a little bit last night, flipping between a couple of different games. I was like, who the hell these guys? It did.

Dan Patrick (15:04)

It looked like it looked like they.

Seaton (15:05)

Were given some kind of severe penalty where they were like, okay, fine, for this season. Your entire like roster budget is $15 million. Michael Porter Jr. Is. No offense to him. That's your guy. Yeah, that's the guy that. I mean, you're in New York City, you're in Brooklyn, and that's the guy that you're putting everything on.

Dan Patrick (15:24)

Ah, yes, Marvin. They're so relevant. If they won the NBA championship, no.

Marvin (15:30)

One would care in New York.

Dan Patrick (15:32)

No one. They had Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving and.

Marvin (15:34)

James Harden and still no one cared.

Dan Patrick (15:37)

Well, they certainly don't care now. Oh, for sure they don't. And you're watching and it's such a non descript, like that's where you want at least some kind of relevancy. You can be bad, but be relevant. And there are certain franchises and certain sports where you go, there's no pulse there. There's nothing there. But for Brooklyn to be that bland.

Seaton (16:00)

Holy smokes, dude, that was crazy.

Dan Patrick (16:04)

Yes, yes.

Marvin (16:04)

Marvin, in Columbus, if the Blue Jackets won the Stanley cup, that whole town.

Dan Patrick (16:09)

Would be out like so they're not irrelevant. They just might not be that good. Yeah, I mean, they have a good fan base when you consider that football in Columbus, about the Buckeyes and high school football. But the Blue Jackets, I believe, have a, you know, pretty loyal fan base. Brooklyn, that's where, you know, that's where they go, hey, yeah, I got tickets. Anybody want tickets? You know, you can get in for like 20 bucks. I think you can play for 100 bucks. You know they'll let you play. Yes, Todd, I think the Brooklyn Cyclones minor league baseball team has at least.

Lewis Riddick (16:43)

As much buzz as the Nets. And that's a problem.

Dan Patrick (16:45)

All right, so yeah, random text from Seaton. Last night you got bored with the football game, so you flipped around and caught some Brooklyn Nets basketball.

Seaton (16:55)

Not gonna lie, it didn't take me very long to get bored at that game. That was a tough watch.

Dan Patrick (16:59)

Three first half picks for Brock Purdy. Here's Kyle Shanahan on his quarterback.

Lewis Riddick (17:05)

Just had three throws you'd love to take back.

Dan Patrick (17:07)

They're all three good decisions, just a hair laid on them. And when you're a hair laid on stuff you can't throw behind him, and he threw it behind him and all three guys made him pay. There's no narrative to late throw. You're just a little late. And when you do, which people are late a lot, you just can't throw behind him. When you are, you got to put it in front of them and he had a little behind him on all three and all three of those corners made him pay. He had a slight hitch and that's all it takes. That's the difference between college football and the NFL. You can hitch, you can, you can pump, but not in the NFL. Not, not for a timing pattern. And you saw that with Brock Purdy. It was like a, and that was it. And that's all those cornerbacks need because I, I, I'll, I'll catch up a whole lot quicker. You know, Shador Sanders talked about the speed of the NFL, that he's got to get used to the speed. He was talking about Max Crosby. He said after the game, why were you trying to beat the blank out of me? He goes, that's my job. You know, you have these guys who are omnipresent, like they're there and if they're not there, they're going to get there really, really quickly. And that's the difference in the NFL in college. But I still find these quarterbacks who don't take what's right in front of them, the easy five yards. And I forget who we had on, but he talked about Tom Brady and he said 100 out of 100 times he's taking the five yard guy who's wide open as opposed to the seven or the 10 yarder. A hundred out of 100. He's taken what's right there. Hey, you're going to let me have that, I'm going to take it. The younger quarterback tried to make a bigger play and Brock Purdy, a split second. And that's what's amazing when you see this in real time, like TV puts it so it's really easy to see and understand and looks a whole lot easier than what it is when you're watching on the sideline. It is, it is so quick. It's, it's, it's far, quicker than you can even imagine. But those who see it and get it done and anticipate and throw somebody open, those are the greats of all time. The other ones, that's why you become journeyman, that's why you become a backup. That's why you get, you know, kicked out of the league. It's just amazing how they do it with that precision in the NFL. College football, man, that is fool's gold. I mean, Julian saying is completing 80% of his passes at Ohio State unheard of, but it is college football and it feels like anybody who's, you know, any, anybody who's of greatness or good, you know, being on that level of being great, being good at good. Ish. You got to complete 60, 65% of your passes because it's all there in the NFL. I think Steve Young completed 72% of his passes one year, which is unheard of just because the ability to get something into a tight window. Yes, Marvin.

Marvin (20:05)

And it's a cheat code being a.

Lewis Riddick (20:06)

Quarterback at Ohio State because I already.

Marvin (20:08)

Have NFL wide receivers in college.

Dan Patrick (20:11)

Yeah, you're right. I still go back to when Justin Fields against Ohio State. They were wide open. Like it was hard to assess Justin Fields because I went, those receivers are wide open. And then we've seen what's happened to Justin Fields when he got to the NFL. You don't have those receivers and you don't have that defense that you're going up against. All right, Lewis Riddick from the Mothership will join us. Chris Collinsworth a little bit later on and Reggie Aloysius Miller Jr. III. We'll take a break. Just getting started on this Tuesday. We're back after this.

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Dan Patrick (25:27)

Hey, audiobook lovers. This week on the podcast I'm sitting down with musician, producer and walking encyclopedia Questlove. We're talking about Mark Ronson's memoir, Night how to be a DJ in 90s New York City. All right, like we talked about before, Mark Ronson found sanctuary in the DJ booth. What's a tool or piece of equipment in the studio or on stage that gives you the most control?

Marvin (25:49)

So I have two microphones on stage. We have the microphone that you hear as the audience. Then we have a second microphone in which we communicate with each other. I feel like that second microphone kind of saved all of our friendships. No band likes each other after 20.

Lewis Riddick (26:06)

Years or 25 years.

Marvin (26:07)

Like the Beatles broke up in seven and a half years and we're going on 35.

Dan Patrick (26:14)

Listen to earsay the Audible and iheart audiobook club on the iheartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts Foreign. Here in a moment. Lane Kiffin met with the media as he gets ready for the game, Ole Miss against Mississippi State. And this is the Egg Bowl. And of course we want to find out where Lane Kiffin is going to go or if he's going to stay when he makes the announcement. And he met with the media and he got hit with a couple of really good questions. Lane Keith released a statement on Friday.

Lewis Riddick (26:54)

Saying that you, him and Chancellor Boyce had had a meeting about your future.

Seaton (26:57)

Are you able to elaborate on the.

Lewis Riddick (26:59)

Nature of that meeting at all?

Dan Patrick (27:00)

Yeah, like I said at the beginning, very fair question, but we're not answering anything that doesn't have to do with.

Lewis Riddick (27:07)

The game and the team and the season, so.

Dan Patrick (27:11)

But fair question on Pat McAfee, how.

Lewis Riddick (27:13)

You don't make decisions based on money.

Dan Patrick (27:15)

When you do make your decisions, what are the considerations for you then? Especially when it comes to football decisions. Right? Like, what are you thinking about? Yeah, very fair question. But I'm not going into it because.

Lewis Riddick (27:25)

Like I said at the beginning, I'm gonna keep this to this team.

Dan Patrick (27:28)

And he says expects a decision on Saturday. Is that a decision that's been made.

Lewis Riddick (27:32)

Or is that still in consideration.

Dan Patrick (27:35)

Like, people are just curious about that.

Lewis Riddick (27:37)

Yeah.

Dan Patrick (27:38)

So, I mean, you can just keep going. I'm not going to answer them. So that's three of them.

Lewis Riddick (27:43)

You got another one.

Dan Patrick (27:45)

All right. It's their job. Lane, you put yourself in this position. The coach is not supposed to be the distraction. You are the distraction. These questions aren't out of nowhere when you send cryptic messages and pictures and, you know, your family's here, your family's there, and flight is going to be here, they're going there. I would say that was probably a draw between media and head coach. Let's bring in Lewis Riddick from the mothership. He'll be on the call for Miami at Pittsburgh Saturday, noon Eastern on abc. What'd you make of that back and forth there?

Lewis Riddick (28:20)

Yeah, that's lame, man. That's Lane just trying to. Trying to deflect the questions and not answer them until he, you know, drops his decision on the rest of us, as far as we know what exactly it is that he's planning on doing. It's a. Look, I mean, you know what? I've talked to Lane, Dan, many, many times. We cover a bunch of their games. I really like the guy, developed a friendship with him. He's been really good to me as far as, you know, the information that we need to do our jobs. But look, he. Lane right now is trying to make the best decision for his football career and the college football, you know, schedule, as far as when coaches can be talked to, when coaches can be hired, you know, as when you kind of compare it to the NFL, it's just screwed up. He's in a situation right now where really he can't win. He could make it simpler, you know, if his decision was simply just to go back to Ole Miss. I mean, he could obviously simplify this whole thing and put this whole thing to rest as far as, you know, the speculation surrounding his job. Obviously, it leads you to believe that, you know, he hasn't made a decision or that he's made a decision that maybe that is going to cause a little bit of, let's just say, controversy as far as maybe what he decides to do. But I think we're all just gonna have to sit and wait right now. And you can tell he's having a hard time trying to keep people off his back until he actually does make his decision and make it known. And it's tough, man. It's tough being in the situation that he's in. I don't envy him because I can understand, as far as you know, him trying to make a decision that he feels as though is going to set him up to be a national championship winning head coach at some point down the line. And that doesn't mean necessarily that he can't get that done at Ole Miss, but it just means that right now he's not willing to let us in on where he's heading with this thing.

Dan Patrick (30:08)

And let's say he goes either LSU or Florida.

Lewis Riddick (30:13)

Yeah.

Dan Patrick (30:14)

Would you let him coach Ole Miss in the playoffs?

Lewis Riddick (30:19)

I'd have a hard time doing it. I really would because obviously it wouldn't be fair to, you know, to his players right now that he has the roster that he has assembled right now.

Dan Patrick (30:30)

But he does give you the best chance to win in the playoffs.

Lewis Riddick (30:34)

Of course it does. And look, I think what it is, it's kind of like. It's kind of like an ethics discussion, I guess you would say here. Like, does he. Does he have the right to coach a team up until the very end, up until they get knocked out of it, given the fact that he is, in essence, kind of decided, hey, look, this isn't the team ultimately that I want to coach and that down the line, I'm looking to move on and go to a different place. I think that, I mean, look, if you're. If you're the sitting athletic director or a sitting president of Ole Miss and he. Let's just say he did decide to go to a different place. Yeah, I would have a hard time. I would have a hard time letting him continue to coach the team.

Dan Patrick (31:08)

Although.

Lewis Riddick (31:09)

Although he gives the team the best chance to win a national title with him leading the charge, of course. Yeah, it's a, It's a very tough. It's a tough situation for everyone involved here, man, and I would not want to be in it. And somehow, some way, the NCAA has to kind of change up the structure. So where you don't, you don't have coaches being put in this situation, and most importantly, you don't have players and teams being put in this situation.

Dan Patrick (31:31)

There was an incident during the Niners game against the Panthers when Juwan Jennings got hit in the groin and he was hit by Trayvon Mulrig. Okay. And then after the game, he took a swing at Mo Rig. And then all of a sudden, people are like, wait a minute, what's. What happened here? And then we, we saw the video where he gets hit in the groin.

Lewis Riddick (31:55)

Yeah.

Dan Patrick (31:56)

What's worse, getting hit in the groin or somebody spitting in your face?

Lewis Riddick (32:01)

Well, I think, look, someone spitting in Your face. I think you've heard many people talk about this, Dan. I mean, that's the ultimate, that's the ultimate show of disrespect. Getting hit in the groin, someone purposely taking a shot. You're going, look, it's all, it's all the same to me when someone's trying to, but you know, to, to hurt you in a very meaningful way. And when someone's trying to disrespect you in a very meaningful way. Look, those, those are just lines you just don't cross on the football field. And all things, all bets are off after that. They just are. I think Mike Tomlin put it perfectly when I guess a reporter asked him, how were you advising your players if someone were to spit in your face? And I think he, you know, I'm kind of paraphrasing where he said, look, you just do what comes naturally to you at that point. And someone hits you in the groin, Dan, or someone spits in your face, I would tell you the same thing, or anyone else. Do what comes. Comes naturally and I'll back you from there.

Dan Patrick (32:53)

Would you be playing Joe Burrow if you're the Bengals?

Lewis Riddick (32:56)

No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I think, look, sometimes we know this, we know players need to be protected from themselves. Like the Bengals aren't going anywhere as far as 20, 25. And I know, like, this is the highest form of competition when it comes to pro football and you're being paid to do a job and Joe Barrow is being paid handsomely. But at the same time, I'm trying to look out for his long term future and the long term future of the Bengals. And I don't think it's, it's served by putting him out there in a season that right now isn't going anywhere. I just wouldn't want to risk further injury. I know he could get injured at any time. It is football. It's what he's paid to do. But I wouldn't put him out there. I wouldn't.

Dan Patrick (33:30)

But he wants to be out there. Yeah, I know your fan base is paying to see him out there. You can't bubble wrap him.

Lewis Riddick (33:38)

That's true. That is true. I understand that. But we're talking about one of the elite of the elites that. Look, I guess what I would really need to know here is, and I say this numerous, I've said this numerous different times. One of the most important aspects of an organization is your medical department, your doctors, your trainers, your rehab specialists. I would actually want to know, look what is the risk of playing this young man and putting him back out there on the football field in the season that's not going anywhere? Am I risking his long term future that I've invested so much in by putting him back out there? What's the risk of injuring him to the degree where it compromises his long term future with our organization? Those are, that's what I would probably wind up leaning on the most. But sitting here on the outside looking in, I would probably be like, look, we're going to look forward to 2026.

Dan Patrick (34:26)

With you, Joe, talking to Louis Riddick of the Mothership. You got Miami at Pittsburgh. And I brought this up a little bit with Notre Dame and Miami. Miami beats Notre Dame. Starting the season, Notre Dame is ranked higher. Where do you stand with that? Should Notre Dame be ranked higher than Miami given the head to head look.

Lewis Riddick (34:46)

I think there's a, there's a lot left to be played out still. Okay. At this point, do I think they should be being compared in the same pod as the, as the committee talked about? Yeah, I do. I think they should be. I understand that they're saying that, look, Notre Dame's losses, or rather Miami's losses, are worse than Notre Dame's losses. And that's why maybe there is a little bit of a gap between where they are putting them right now and that they're not evaluating them in the same pod. Then why would, why would any team ever want to schedule tough games in the beginning of the season anymore if early season wins don't count the same as late season wins? I mean, that's an argument Miami can make. An argument that Miami should make. I think in the end, after this weekend is all settled up, we're going to see whether or not that early season win really did mean something for Miami. If they are able to get past Pittsburgh on Saturday and beat them convincingly and then we can wind up having this, you know, this conversation. Once again, I think head to head should matter. No, man, no matter when you play it. I don't like the, the whole idea of the mitt that, that the, let's just say that the, the value of that wind diminishes over time. I don't believe that. I do believe that teams can improve and teams can also become worse as the season goes along. But head to head, Matt, has to mean something regardless of when it was played. And there's going to be a lot of other objective factors that go into this decision, which a lot of times it seems like that's A sliding scale that they use whatever they need to use in order to justify what their eyes are telling them. And that's why this whole thing's kind of a mess. When you can't ultimately decide things on the football field, then you're always going to have disagreements. You just are. But that head to head is something I'm telling you has to have become a factor. It has to be a factor after this weekend is over.

Dan Patrick (36:34)

20 minutes ago I was talking about Brock Purdy. He hesitated on all three of those throws in the first half. He threw interceptions. And I said in college you can get away with hesitate, hesitate, then throw. You can double pump. I mean you have time. In the NFL you don't have time.

Lewis Riddick (36:52)

Right.

Dan Patrick (36:52)

Like as soon as he, he paused, I went oh my gosh. And then he threw the interceptions. You played defensive back in the NFL. Yeah, you got to throw guys open and they don't stay open very long. But that precision is what makes quarterbacks great. And the guys who don't aren't able to do that. The younger quarterbacks who think they can do what they did in college and I mean, that's the death of you. So can you explain that though, of throwing that receiver open as a defensive back and you know, facing these receivers and quarterbacks?

Lewis Riddick (37:27)

Yeah, look, the, the, the, the great guys who patrolled the middle of the field, in particular the safeties, even linebackers. But that, that's where you see the interceptions, that's where you see the lack of anticipation on the part of quarterbacks really come home to bite them. It's when they're trying to throw those big 15, 18 yard in cuts that are coming in right inside the hash, right behind a second level defender or right in front of a safety who's coming downhill. And that's where a lot of times it's not open when you throw it. But you're banking on the fact that the receiver is going to be exactly where you expect them to be. And I'm going to put the ball exactly where there is enough time for the receiver to make the catch and protect himself before that safety is able to anticipate where I'm, you know, that I'm letting go of this ball and, and he's going to be driving downhill. So those, those, those quarterbacks that are able to do that, I mean, you're right, the windows are about one foot by one foot. They're trying to fit them into a tiny little box. And if he hitches at all, if he hesitates at all and it gives me that extra step that when he takes his hand off of that ball, when he takes his hand off of the ball and he lets it go, that's usually what I'm trying to break. Okay? As a middle of the field defender, if he pauses just for a second, he's giving me another step in order to get there to either make the interception or have. Back in the day, it was a big blow up shot, which now you can't do, but you're giving me that extra second to get there. And so, yeah, you have to be for, you have to be sure when you let that ball go and even when you let it go on time, there are great safeties and great linebackers who are still going to be able to make the play. But that's, that's the, that's the cost of doing business. When you're throwing the football in the middle of the field like that, if there's any hesitation, you are really putting the ball in harm's way. I heard Kurt Warner talking about this, or I read him talking about this, you know, on, on social media, it was either last night or this morning. Nobody threw the deep in cut better than Kurt Warner. Nobody. And he says, look, sometimes it burned me. Sometimes, even when I let it go on time, the DB still made the play. But I can guarantee you this, if you don't let it go on time and they do get a break, you're cooked. And that's what was happening to Brock. I mean, that's, I think. Did you, did you talk about the fact that. Look, you know what, and I've said this too, fans should watch a game or have the chance to watch a game from behind the, from the quarterback's vantage point, field level to see what they see and see just how hard it is to do what you're talking about. And quite honestly, most fans or most average football players, high school, college football players, wouldn't throw a lot of the throws that these guys throw because it never looks open. You never look like there's an open window. But you have to trust it and you have to let it go. And that's why these guys get paid what they're paid. And that's why the error, the margin for error is like slim and none.

Dan Patrick (40:14)

But this is what I wanted Tom Brady to do or Peyton Manning to do, is have the camera behind the offensive line and actually put us right there in the moment. So when, so Tom is going to say, I see the Mike linebacker there, I see this guy's coming this Guy's going to act like he's coming, you know, we got safety. So if he tells me that in real time. Yeah, that's the experience I want to hear from Brady or Peyton. So we do understand that. I tell my audience all the time, if you saw the game from the sidelines in real speed, you would be shocked how fast it is. Like, oh, like TV helps us, you know, focus on. It's incredible how fast and how violent the game is. But if you put me behind Brady and Brady goes to the line and maybe better yet, Peyton, because when he went to the line, he's changing the play and he's pointing out things, I think that would be fascinating. I think that that would really help us understand a tutorial on that's bringing you as close to the line of scrimmage, literally as possible.

Lewis Riddick (41:22)

Yeah. The only challenge for them, obviously, would be not knowing what the offensive call is. So therefore, they can't necessarily give you all the reads and the checks that they would make because they don't know exactly what the offense is trying to do. So he may be thinking it's going to be one thing, but the offense is trying to do something else.

Dan Patrick (41:38)

But Tom could tell me what he would be doing in that. Let's say it's third and 10. So it's an obvious.

Lewis Riddick (41:44)

You're just talking about, as far as defensive recognition, about what they're doing and what you would be alerting for. Yeah, no doubt.

Dan Patrick (41:49)

Yeah.

Lewis Riddick (41:49)

No question about it. Yeah. And it would, I'll tell you, it would blow your mind playing quarterback. Lane Quarterback is hard, man, because there's so much stuff that they have to know pre snap and then it can all change. Then it all changes post snap. And that is, that's why, look, I always, always give quarterbacks the benefit of the doubt, especially when you're talking about their development, because you have to. Football is a participation, development sport. You cannot develop without participating. And you got to give guys time, especially a quarterback.

Dan Patrick (42:21)

Oh, wait, let me get one more question here, because I'm up against. Commercial break if the Cowboys beat the Chiefs. Yep. Dot, dot, dot.

Lewis Riddick (42:31)

I think they are going to be very dangerous here in the month of December. Very dangerous. And you're going to be looking at Dallas and talking about can they really make that push to be a participant in the playoffs? And if they get in the playoffs, all bets are off. Because we all know in single elimination tournaments, teams that can score points and play defense at the level that they're playing defense now, especially up front, they are dangerous. And who knows, Is it the end.

Dan Patrick (42:57)

Of the Chiefs if, if the, the Chief. Yeah, I was going to say that was my follow up to the follow up, but yeah. Are the Chiefs done if they lose on Thursday?

Lewis Riddick (43:06)

Well, then they need help. And then, then, then you just don't know. The Chiefs just got to win out and they got to control their own destiny. They've got to win out. So, yeah, I think if they lose, then it's not in their hands anymore. So then it's just 50, 50. The Chiefs have to control everything now from here on out. And the only way they can do that is by winning every game.

Dan Patrick (43:25)

Okay, the follow up to the follow up. Did Jerry Jones make the right decision on Micah Parsons?

Lewis Riddick (43:32)

If these guys continue to play the way they're playing and they're able to maximize the value that they got from those picks in the coming drafts, it looks like he may have. Yeah.

Dan Patrick (43:44)

Safe travels. Thank you, Louis. Happy Thanksgiving.

Lewis Riddick (43:46)

You got it. Thanks a lot, Dan.

Dan Patrick (43:48)

That's Lewis Riddick. He'll be on the call. Miami at Pittsburgh Saturday at noon Eastern on abc. Take a break. Our play of the day up next. And your phone calls right after this.

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Marvin (47:05)

You say LEGO Star wars, the first thing you think of is imagination or action.

Dan Patrick (47:10)

Or both.

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Definitely both. Like with Jango Fett's Starship. I mean, with stud Blasters, seismic charges and three minifigures, your kid is gonna be creating stories until the Banthas come home. And for yourself, there's the Jango Fett's Firespray class Starship LEGO set from the Ultimate Collector series. Enjoy some Jedi Master level mind during your building time. Shop now for Star wars lego sets on lego.com or in lego retail stores.

Dan Patrick (47:41)

Hey audiobook lovers. This week on the podcast I'm sitting down with musician, producer and walking encyclopedia Questlove. We're talking about Mark Ronson's memoir Night how to be a DJ in 90s New York City. All right, like we talked about before, Mark Ronson found sanctuary in DJ Booth. What's a tool or piece of equipment in the studio or on stage that gives you the most control?

Marvin (48:04)

So I have two microphones on stage. We have the microphone that you hear as the audience. Then we have a second microphone in which we communicate with each other. I feel like that second microphone kind of saved all of our friendships. No band likes each other after 20.

Lewis Riddick (48:20)

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The Beatles broke up in seven and a half years and we're going on 35.

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The play of the day. This is the play of the day. Check this out. Inbound goes over to Jokic.

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Half court shot.

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Got it at the hard.

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He did it again. That was a jump shot from the.

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Seaton (49:52)

Yeah, sure, Ken. We got up there right now most division, most likely from the AFC to get a Super bowl winner.

Dan Patrick (50:00)

All right.

Seaton (50:01)

And we have, you know, North, South, east, west, obvs. Right now the west has about 62% of that vote. Yeah, yeah. Followed by the East.

Dan Patrick (50:09)

What's the worst division? Is that the AFC South?

Seaton (50:12)

That would be the south, but very close with the North. Okay, south and north not. Not looking great.

Dan Patrick (50:18)

All right. The Colonel in Tampa. Hey, Colonel, what's on your mind? Hey, good morning, Dan. Good morning, team. Welcome back from Las Vegas. Boy, that was fun to watch. Just remember, when you're streaming it, it doesn't necessarily stay in Vegas, but I enjoyed watching Pandora too. Hey, not much more to say after Marvin yesterday on his worst of. Pretty tough with the. With the Bucks. But I'm grateful, Dan. I'm grateful for Christian McCaffrey and the win last night over the Panthers. And I'm. I'm grateful and thankful this week to be in the NFC south as we all are in Tampa Bay. All right, thank you, Colonel. Happy Thanksgiving. Lucas in Texas Hi, Luke. What's on your mind? Hey, Dan. Good morning. Good morning. I want to talk about Tom Brady, but real quick. This ham turkey debate that started up yesterday. I was on team Ham for many years, but my mother in law recently remarried and her new husband. Every year we get a jalapeno butter injected air fried turkey. And I would invite you to have some, but frankly, there's not going to be any leftover. We are team turkey again. All right, all right. That does go a long way in what you like for Thanksgiving. Because if it's a great turkey, moist turkey, nothing better. All right. Oh, you wanted to talk about Tom Brady as an analyst.

Lewis Riddick (51:40)

Call us back.

Dan Patrick (51:41)

Oh, okay. Sorry about that, Lucas. Marvin hung up on you, apparently because you're a ham guy. You're John Ham Blue. I like that. All right, you'll take that Thanksgiving. Yeah. John Ham. Do you know who Jon Hamm is, Todd?

Lewis Riddick (51:58)

He's an actor.

Dan Patrick (51:58)

Okay. I just want to make sure somebody modern day. I prefer Jackham. I know, know, I know. Have you seen Jon Hamm in anything?

Lewis Riddick (52:07)

Yeah, I had him.

Dan Patrick (52:08)

He was in that. That TV show with the when they're all wearing suits and not treating women very nicely, where they were on advertising agency thing. Did you ever watch it?

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I did.

Dan Patrick (52:17)

I watched a few episodes of that. Several episodes, actually. I can't remember the name of it, but Mad Men, that's madman. Madison Avenue Madman. I see what they did. Yeah. You see, had a double double meaning there. Mad Men. I don't like the way they were treating the women on that show, but.

Lewis Riddick (52:31)

I guess back then that was acceptable.

Dan Patrick (52:33)

Yeah. Yes.

Seaton (52:33)

Jon Hamm was such a good actor in that show that he had millions and millions and millions of women fall in love with a philandering alcoholic.

Dan Patrick (52:41)

Yeah.

Seaton (52:42)

That's how good he was.

Dan Patrick (52:44)

It is kind of interesting in certain movies, roles how we romanticize the bad guy.

Seaton (52:51)

Yeah.

Dan Patrick (52:51)

We were talking before the show. Like you watch the Charlie Sheen documentary and you're kind of like, oh, man, that Charlie, what a character.

Seaton (53:00)

Few people have made his life charming. Somehow he managed, but he did it.

Dan Patrick (53:07)

We're like, ah, Charlie, come on.

Seaton (53:08)

You're not smoking crack anymore, buddy.

Dan Patrick (53:10)

You're fine. You're not taking advantage of those women. Don't worry about it. But we do this with the mob. How many times do we watch a mob movie and we root for the mob? It's crazy. We romanticize. Yeah.

Lewis Riddick (53:22)

Paul in the Sopranos. One of the earliest episodes, Tony Soprano is taking his daughter on college tours of the northeast. But then he run in, runs into.

Seaton (53:30)

An old mafia guy and kills him.

Lewis Riddick (53:32)

It's like the, the greatest episode because you but you're rooting for him in a weird way. Just a weird situation.

Dan Patrick (53:37)

Yeah. You romanticize certain roles. Yes. Todd. Yeah.

Lewis Riddick (53:40)

Tony Soprano was very entertaining and funny and scary. But you want to hug the guy.

Dan Patrick (53:45)

And he's got all kinds of psychological issues.

Lewis Riddick (53:47)

He's dealing with a therapist.

Dan Patrick (53:48)

And somehow some way he's ordering all these killings. But you still love the guy.

Lewis Riddick (53:52)

It was very odd to feel that way.

Dan Patrick (53:54)

Chris Collinsworth will join us coming up next hour. And Reggie Miller in the final hour of the program. College football rankings coming out tonight. We got some action coming up this weekend. You know that Cowboys Chiefs game, and I said this yesterday, it'll be one of the top five highest rated regular season games, I think in history because and it might be the number one most viewed regular season football game in history. I'm not sure which one would be number one. Maybe Paulie during the commercial break. You can find that. But that is a huge game. Huge game. It's the Cowboys on Thanksgiving to start with, and it's a standalone game. And then you throw in what's at stake. The Cowboys playing well and the chief season seems to be on the line every single week. Stat of the day has been brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of the program. More of your phone calls coming up. Operator Tyler sitting by 877-3-DP show email address dpanpatrick.com our Twitter handle @dpshow one hour in the books with Fritzi Seaton, Marv, Paula, yours truly, back after this.

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Say LEGO Star wars, the first thing you think of is imagination or action.

Dan Patrick (56:08)

Or both.

Marvin (56:09)

Definitely both. Like with Jango Fett's Starship. I mean with stud blasters, seismic charges and three minifigures, your kid is gonna be creating stories until the Banthas come home. And for yourself, there's the Jango Fett's Firespray class Starship LEGO set from the Ultimate Collector series. Enjoy some Jedi Master level mindfulness during your building time. Shop now for Star wars lego sets on lego.com or in lego retail stores.

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It will be the only rune uncovered by some unknown species of the future.

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What a matchup we got, y'.

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Marvin (57:22)

This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The bed is rocking and the crowd lit Chance echo drum beat everybody showing that school pride game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing.

Dan Patrick (57:40)

That's a game changer right there.

Marvin (57:43)

Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Asheville fans, school colors everywhere and an ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo no matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.

Dan Patrick (58:07)

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