Hour 1 – Aaron Rodgers vs. Russell Wilson, Chris Simms

Summary

Summary of "The Dan Patrick Show" – Hour 1: Aaron Rodgers vs. Russell Wilson, Chris Simms

Release Date: March 11, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of The Dan Patrick Show, host Dan Patrick engages in an in-depth discussion with former NHL player Nate Thompson, focusing on the ongoing quarterback saga involving Aaron Rodgers and Russell Wilson. The conversation delves into the potential moves by the Pittsburgh Steelers, the implications for both quarterbacks, and broader trends in NFL player signings and team strategies.

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Main Discussion: Aaron Rodgers vs. Russell Wilson

Timestamp: [04:07] – [29:18]

The primary focus centers on whether the Pittsburgh Steelers should pursue Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson in the upcoming NFL season. Nate Thompson initiates the conversation by assessing the current landscape:

Nate Thompson [04:10]: "Next season, I would want my team to go with Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson."

Dan Patrick explores the potential destinations for both quarterbacks, emphasizing Rodgers' suitability for the Steelers:

Dan Patrick [04:18]: "If you're Aaron Rodgers, would you rather go to the Giants or the Steelers? Not to me. It seems obvious you'd go to the Steelers because the Steelers are actually trying to do something that's kind of out of the norm for them."

Thompson agrees, highlighting the Steelers' recent aggressive moves, such as acquiring DK Metcalf, signaling a shift towards a more competitive and dynamic team strategy:

Nate Thompson [05:00]: "The Steelers are being a little more aggressive with Aaron Rodgers. Maybe it's a one-year, hey, we won a playoff game here."

Poll Results

Timestamp: [15:13] – [15:22]

Midway through the episode, a poll is conducted among listeners regarding their preference between Rodgers and Wilson. The result is unanimous favoring Russell Wilson:

Dan Patrick [15:19]: "So far, Russ has got a hundred percent of the vote."

However, recognizing the importance of the Steelers' decision, Dan decides to refine the poll to better capture listener sentiments:

Dan Patrick [15:57]: "Who should the Steelers go with?"

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Steelers' Potential Moves

Timestamp: [15:40] – [29:18]

Dan and Nate delve deeper into the strategic considerations for the Steelers. They discuss Rodgers' potential impact versus the uncertainties surrounding Wilson:

Dan Patrick [27:39]: "Aaron Rodgers is a freak of nature, right? He's got gigantic hands and he's arguably the greatest arm ever."

Thompson outlines the benefits Rodgers could bring to the Steelers, including enhanced offensive capabilities and team culture:

Nate Thompson [28:23]: "If you're Aaron Rodgers, he's going to coach up their defense and make them even more awesome."

Conversely, the Giants' prospects with Russell Wilson are scrutinized, with concerns about team dynamics and long-term viability:

Dan Patrick [28:26]: "What does it mean for the Giants? That doesn't excite me very much."

Related NFL Signings and Moves

Timestamp: [30:19] – [37:15]

The conversation expands to cover recent NFL signings, particularly the surge in defensive tackle acquisitions aimed at bolstering teams' defensive lines. Notable mention is made of Jonathan Allen's $60 million deal:

Dan Patrick [37:35]: "A three-year, $60 million deal for Jonathan Allen. That's a significant move."

Thompson reflects on the cyclical nature of football strategies, emphasizing the renewed focus on defensive strength:

Nate Thompson [37:15]: "Defensive tackles back in vogue. Gotta stop the run."

The discussion also touches on the performance and future of other key players, including the prospects of Sam Darnold and Geno Smith, highlighting the strategic decisions teams must make in selecting their quarterbacks.

Additional Discussions: Ball Inflation Rule

Timestamp: [51:22] – [53:54]

A spirited debate arises over the NFL's football inflation rules, sparked by comments from Chris Sims regarding Aaron Rodgers' preference for overinflated footballs. Dan Patrick and Nate Thompson exchange views on the fairness and implications of such rules:

Dan Patrick [53:31]: "Why both quarterbacks get the same advantage."

Nate Thompson [53:54]: "It's a sport of rules. Everything has to be standardized."

Thompson defends the importance of maintaining consistent regulations to ensure fair play:

Nate Thompson [53:59]: "Unless you just got big hands... what sport does that go on?"

The debate underscores the tension between individual player preferences and league-wide standards, highlighting the complexities of enforcing uniformity in professional sports.

Conclusion

Timestamp: [54:25] – End

As the episode wraps up, Dan and Nate summarize their key points, reiterating the Steelers' potential strategic advantages in pursuing Aaron Rodgers over Russell Wilson. They emphasize the broader trend of teams prioritizing defensive strength and the importance of aligning player acquisitions with long-term team goals.

Nate concludes with a confident outlook on the Steelers' prospects:

Nate Thompson [37:57]: "Pete Carroll knows he's not there for seven years. He's probably going, damn, I might got two, three, four at the most."

The episode ends with a light-hearted exchange about team dynamics and personal anecdotes, leaving listeners with a comprehensive understanding of the current quarterback landscape in the NFL.

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Notable Quotes

• Nate Thompson [04:10]: "Next season, I would want my team to go with Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson."
• Dan Patrick [04:18]: "If you're Aaron Rodgers, would you rather go to the Giants or the Steelers? Not to me."
• Dan Patrick [15:19]: "So far, Russ has got a hundred percent of the vote."
• Nate Thompson [28:23]: "If you're Aaron Rodgers, he's going to coach up their defense and make them even more awesome."
• Nate Thompson [37:15]: "Defensive tackles back in vogue. Gotta stop the run."

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Conclusion

This episode provides a thorough analysis of the quarterback decisions facing the Pittsburgh Steelers, offering insights into team strategies, player capabilities, and the broader implications of NFL player movements. Through engaging dialogue and expert commentary, Dan Patrick and Nate Thompson deliver a comprehensive overview that is both informative and entertaining for fans keen on understanding the evolving dynamics of professional football.

Transcript

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[Nate Thompson]

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[Dan Patrick]

Me? Yes. Yeah. Marvin comes in and he goes, you know, I think I'm your favorite, Danette. I said, well, yesterday you were for a couple of moments. I brought you back a Chicago Bulls championship T shirt from what, 1990? 91.

[Nate Thompson]

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[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. You kind of look like Scottie Pippen. When I close my. My good eye, you look like Scotty Pippen a little bit there with that.

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Thanks.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Nate Thompson]

I do.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Nate Thompson]

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[Dan Patrick]

That's why I asked.

[Nate Thompson]

To start out, right? Yeah. Okay. Next season, I would want my team to go with Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, well, that is the conversation today because it feels like all the moves have happened over the last 48 hours, but we still have landing spots for Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers. Now, if you're Aaron Rodgers, would you rather go to the Giants or the Steelers? Not to me. It seems obvious you'd go to the Steelers because the Steelers are actually trying to do something that's kind of out of the norm for them. You bring in DK Metcalf like you're. It feels like they're realizing the Steeler way is maybe not the Steeler way. Steeler Way might get you nine wins. Hey, we got another winning record. How About a first round victory in the playoffs or two, that would be different. That take you back to the old days. And I think that's why I think they're being a little more aggressive with Aaron Rodgers. And maybe it's a one year, hey, we won a playoff game here. As opposed to. All right, we got Russell Wilson. He said he's a complimentary quarterback. He's good, he can be fine. For us, the problem is the Steelers have been fine. They've been good, but they haven't been great. And if you're Mike Tomlin, if you're that front office, you're probably saying, all right, we gotta. We gotta do something to shake this up a little bit, because you don't have that quarterback that you've had before, like Ben was there for a long period of time yet Terry Bradshaw, you know, but you've had a lot of down years. But you tried Kenny Pickett, didn't work out. You bring in DK Metcalf, you got George Pickens, although Najee Harris signed with the Chargers. And I'll talk about that coming up in a moment. That was one of those. Hmm. Okay. I like what the Chargers did, but I think that's why you go after Aaron Rodgers, because you know what Russell Wilson will give you. For the most part, you know that you may not know what you're getting with Aaron Rodgers, but you feel like the ceiling's a little bit higher there. If I'm Rogers, I would say Pittsburgh, the Giants, I don't get. I mean, unless he just says, hey, I'm going to make it in New York, I'll make it with the other team. How far are you going with that team? You're going to draft Travis Hunter and then you got Malik Neighbors. Okay, that's interesting, but it feels like in Pittsburgh, you got a chance to actually do something with New York. You're just going to be in New York for Russ. It feels like whatever Aaron Rodgers doesn't want to do will be the place for Russell Wilson. And it's kind of sad that it's come to that. But that's what it is for Russ now is if Aaron wants to go to Pittsburgh, Russ would probably go to the Giants. And even if you go to the Giants, are the Giants trading up, trying to trade up to get Cam Ward, which I would get a rookie contract at that position. Russ can be a band aid there and, you know, maybe in a year's time, you turn it over to Cam Warren, but it feels like Russ has got to wait for what Aaron's going or the Steelers are going to wait for what Aaron Rodgers wants to do. Can they come up with a deal? How long's the deal? And then, because other than that, Kirk Cousins is staying in Atlanta, at least for the time being, I don't know if there's any other quarterbacking moves. You know, Jameis Winston's out there. Is he somebody that you could bring in? I guess. I mean, Kenny Pickett's now with the Browns. What are the Browns going to do? They gonna draft a quarterback? What happened to my guy, DTR Dorian Thompson, Robinson, he got traded. I thought, I thought that DTR was going to be a really good quarterback. Maybe not. Maybe he's just a backup quarterback there. But those are some of the things that are still kind of hanging in the balance. Chris Sims from Pro Football Talk will join us. Coming up a little bit, Lewis Riddick of the Mothership, Auburn head coach Bruce Pearl back on the program. So recapping Justin Fields goes to the Jets. I mentioned this yesterday, that was probably going to happen. And then I said, hasn't he suffered enough? But this is a. We got Justin Fields. We don't have any expectations here. We do. We're good. Let's just kind of ease into the season and then we'll end the season and then we'll try to figure out where we're going after that. Seahawks grab Sam Darnold. That's a team friendly deal. And it, you know, it's a hundred million, but it's not, it's 55 million. And Sam signed for what I've been saying for years now, quarterbacks need to find a sweet spot. He's not going to get 50 million. He wasn't going to get 50 million. He probably cost himself 25 million the way he played the last two games of the season. But Seattle gets Sam Darnold. You don't have weapons, you don't have a good offensive line. Now the music's good in Seattle. Some good food up there in Seattle. Commander's got Laramie Tunsil. So and, and I understand this from both sides here with the Texans because the Texans are changing, I guess, their offensive philosophy, their offensive line philosophy. New offensive coordinator. I don't want to go too deep into the weeds, but Laramie Tunsall had one more year and then he would be. He's always asking for a contract extension or a pay raise, but all right, you get, you get something for him. You got trade value, you got something for him. But you have a quarterback who was second Sacked the second most times. You know, that's why where Caleb Williams kind of made everybody forget about what happened in Houston. Houston had a terrible offensive line. Now they were in a bad division, but ended up making the playoffs. A lot of injuries, you know, certainly at the skill position, but I get it. The Commanders are all in. I love it. I love the teams that go, we got this opportunity now. Do I think the Commanders are going to be as good next year? It's weird. I don't. I think that it was. Oh, my gosh. And then all of a sudden, I think they had, what, six or seven games that were decided final possession. You're not going to win all those like they did. You're probably going to win three of those, maybe four. That's, you know, three or four different outcomes here for you. I think they take a step back, even though they, you know, went out and got Debo. Another year of experience for Jaden Daniels. But I just. I've been around this sport so long that these things happen. Like the Texans, they're like, oh, my God, came out of nowhere. And then they regressed a little bit this year. They did make the playoffs, but I didn't think they were going to make the playoffs. But Tunsil going to the Commanders, he gave up two and a half sacks last year. That, you know, and considering your quarterback, was under duress as much as any other quarterback except for Caleb Williams. Tunsil did have a pretty good year. I think he led the league, though, in penalties. Josh Sweat goes to the Cardinals. What were his parents thinking? Josh Sweat. Like, it's just. That's one of those.

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The wording on that, Dan, is next season I would want my team to.

[Dan Patrick]

Go with Russell Wilson or Aaron Rodgers.

[Nate Thompson]

So far, Russ has got a hundred percent of the vote.

[Dan Patrick]

What? Three votes? Oh, okay. But it's still 100. It is 100. 100%. Well, okay. Who should the Steelers go with? How about you just make it that? Who should the Steelers go with?

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You want to amend the question?

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Yeah, because I think that one's that one's more, I don't think people are concerned about the Giants. I think the Steelers, because they're the Steelers. They're a playoff team. You bring in DK Metcalf. That, to me, I think is more interesting of who should they go after. Yes, Pauline.

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The past two seasons, two years ago, Russell Wilson threw 26 touchdowns and eight picks.

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That's pretty good.

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Last season he threw 16 touchdowns and five picks. He was a 500 starting quarterback. It seems like he played way worse than that, doesn't it?

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Yeah. And Denver, that last year those numbers were very deceptive. I mean, we, we've had guys who have put up good numbers, but they're deceptive. Sam Darnold had a deceptively great season until you needed him to be great, and then he wasn't. Aaron Rodgers had a deceptively, really good season with the Jets. He, if you say, if you said to the Steelers, your quarterback's going to give you 28 touchdowns, 11 interceptions, you're going, hell, yes. You're going to sign up. You just, you got Mahomes. But the problem is the bottom line. He was 5 and 12. I mean, that's the concern. The numbers were very deceptive, deceiving. And I think that's where you can go, hey, I can twist these numbers however I want to. Yes. Dylan.

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Oh, I was just, I mean, the Rogers on the Jets, I think was just an abject failure. You can cherry pick those numbers all you want, but they kept jetting, as.

[Dan Patrick]

They usually do, and then he got jettisoned. And then he got jettisoned. Yes, he did. Has he been officially released by the Jets? I don't even know if he's. I don't know how that works. Like, tomorrow, is he officially released by the Jets? But we'll talk to Chris Sims about this. We'll get phone calls coming up. Operator Tyler sitting by.8773. DP show email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle DP Show Good morning, those watching on Peacock. Thank you for downloading the app. We'll take a break. More football right after this Dan Patrick show. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

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[Dan Patrick]

Play of the day coming up, we'll get to phone calls as well. As I mentioned, there's a big run on defensive tackles now. Gotta stop the run. A guy named Milton Williams, he was in the super bowl, had a good Super Bowl. I think he played seven games. He signed a hundred million dollar deal with the Patriots. I think he had a couple of sacks, that was it. But he didn't even start. And 25 years of age, he's gonna make a hundred million dollars. Big run on defensive tackles there. Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live co host and you can see him on Football night in America. All right, give me the head scratcher there. Of all the moves, all the different signings.

[Nate Thompson]

Well, okay, I, I mean, I don't know if I got head scratchers. I got one that surprised me. I think the one that surprises me maybe more than any is I did not think I would be sitting here Tuesday after the first day of free agency uttering the words, J.C. horn, highest paid DB in NFL history. Right. That one was a little surprising to me. Good player. I get that. Been injured a lot during his career. I know they need good defensive players there in Carolina. That was an issue. Right? But they're paying him like he's Pat Certain or Sauce Gardner. And he's certainly not that and hasn't been able to stay on the field that way. That, to me, was a surprising one. Again, I'm never going to get mad at a team for signing a guy they like they drafted, they see potential in. But I didn't think again it was going to be the highest paid DB in the history of football. That was, that was surprising.

[Dan Patrick]

And a lot of attention goes to the quarterbacks and rightfully so. But this feels like this is the stock up on offensive and defensive linemen where it's not going to get headlines but it's going to win you games, it's going to get you into the playoffs, it's going to help somebody win a Super Bowl. Is there?

[Nate Thompson]

That's right.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. But is there a move that was let's non skill level that you would go wow, that's a big upgrade or that that'll be a big difference for this team?

[Nate Thompson]

Well, there's two teams that jump out and they have a number of moves, right. And the one you were kind of, you were just making fun of a little right with Milton Williams. But again Dan, it's like the first thing I got to say is this is how good the Eagles are. They're an all star team. This is good of a team as we've seen in a long, long time, right. They're so good they stashed a guy they were paying $17 million a year, was the top free agents free agent pass rusher in last year's draft and they said just sit on the bench, we're good enough, we could just, we'll keep you there. So I knew and thought all along and said this yesterday that Milton Williams between the Cardinals and Jonathan Gannon who was in Philadelphia, of course K Carolina got involved. That was a big deal. But further along with what they did there in New England, not only the Milton Williams trade, but to get Carl or signing, get Carlton Davis who was still a damn good corner and now you got opposite of him, Christian Gonzalez. So you got two guys on the outside that can shut people down. And Harold Landry, who Vrabel had history with in Tennessee is still a really, really good football player. Right. So I look at some of those moves and even the Oregon Morgan Moses move at offensive tackle as going wow, like you're saying in the trenches, quality signings there. The Patriots certainly improved their team in a big way yesterday. Them and the Bears I thought really were the ones that jumped out to me more than others.

[Dan Patrick]

Dan, if you're Aaron Rodgers and you have your choice of the Giants, of.

[Nate Thompson]

The Steelers, yeah, it's, it's Steelers. It is, it's, it's the Steelers at least are Mike Tomlins on more solid ground I believe than you know Brian Dabel or Joe Shane. Right. So there's that aspect. You certainly can look at the Steelers and go, wait, this is a team that's been in the playoffs. They get to the playoffs, yeah, they're one and done, right. But they're doing some things a little differently there. They're making some drastic moves. What they traded for DK Metcalf and paid him all this money. They usually don't do that type of stuff. We know that their defense, they got some disruptors and some playmakers there. I think that one there, you know, if it's apples to apples, there's no doubt the Pittsburgh Steelers would be the team for Aaron Rodgers.

[Dan Patrick]

That means Russell Wilson to the Giants.

[Nate Thompson]

I don't know what it means for the Giants. That doesn't excite me very much. See the other thing that I think we're seeing going on right here, you know, good players in free agency, all the movement, the free agent players, there wasn't a big time market this year, right. Or at least high end players. So we saw a lot of guys get resigned at the last second trades like DK Metcalf and some other ones out there. And then the other thing that's jumped out to me this weekend is I think the NFL is telling you they don't like the draft, the quarterback draft, right. Anybody not named Cam Ward, I think everybody's a little bit like, I like him, but I don't know if I love him, right. That, that's the feeling I'm getting, at least by the signals out there. So, yeah, the Giants, the, the options are limited. I don't know what they do there, but it seems like we're getting to the spot here where there'll be more and more pressure on them to take a quarterback at number three.

[Dan Patrick]

You just think Cam Ward is the only guy who grades out to maybe be a starter right away.

[Nate Thompson]

Cam Ward is. I haven't come out with my rankings yet, but I've said this on my. He's definitely the number one quarterback. That's, that's not debatable, right? This will be a year where I have a hard time thinking all 32 teams will be in consensus that that is the number one guy. Cam Ward is worthy of being the number one pick. Cam Ward to me would be in the conversation with Caleb Williams and Jaden Daniels as the top quarterbacks in last year's draft. I think he's worthy of that. I had Bo Nix number three. I think if I was going to be fair, I'd probably would Have Cam Ward in front of him if it was back into those times. Even though I love Bo Nicks, don't get me wrong. So, yeah, I look at it that way and then where I look at like Shador Sanders and Jackson Darth, I feel like they would have been towards the bottom of last year's list. But still, I look at Shador Sanders and still go starting caliber stuff, first rounder. I don't love all the crap he's getting, you know, in places. Certainly not. And there's a lot to like about his film.

[Dan Patrick]

The jets getting Justin Fields. Yeah. Hold your excitement. Well, I like the move. I like the move. Right. Because he at least is going to go out, you know, if he stays healthy, he at least can make some plays. It's. Yeah, he could be interesting there. I think your expectation level is greatly reduced because it's Justin Fields and that's right. And maybe you can get eight or nine win, like maybe best case scenario, maybe Rogers, you know, we thought they could go to the Super Bowl.

[Nate Thompson]

I hear, I hear you. And I think, you know, one on top of that, you give, get Justin Fields that type of contract, what he got, that doesn't take you out of the market for if, if, if Shador Sanders is there for you to pick, right. And you want to take it, you're. Now we're not going to be like Kirk Cousins, Michael Penix and be like, what? Why did they pay him $150 million and now they're drafting the number seven quarterback. That makes no sense. So it does give them some wiggle room there. And then I think on top of what you're saying, there is potential. It's gotten better throwing the football. There still needs to be more there. I mean, it's not, you know, what you want as far as throwing the football out of your starter in the NFL, but it's good. And then you got to get in the playmaking. And then I also think with like what you're saying, Aaron Glenn, he's going, wait, I want a team here. I'm about a team. I just came from Detroit. I want to run, I want to play physical football. I got an awesome defense here that I'm going to coach up and make them even more awesome. Right. And he's going to play team style of football. And then, yes, this gives them wiggle room, buys them time to figure out what they want to do for the quarterback of the future. Or Justin Fields ups his game and shows us he's the quarterback of the future. So from all that. I, I, it makes sense because I don't think they want to be held hostage by Aaron Rodgers and what he might have wanted to run the offense and how he wanted things to look. And I, I get it, what the jets are doing.

[Dan Patrick]

Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live co host, also unbuttoned the Chris Sims podcast and a contributor to Football Night in America. Would you rather have Sam Darnold or Geno Smith?

[Nate Thompson]

I would take Geno. All right. I would take Geno. Yeah, I'm a Geno fan. I like Sam Darnold now. And this, I mean, it's, it's close, right? It's close. But I would take Geno, but also within that, okay, if you told me, wait, you can get Sam Darnold for a little less money and you can get a third round pick, I might go, well, I don't know, maybe I will tip the scales towards Sam Donald then a little bit. And I think that's what Seattle looked at it like, let alone, I think Seattle's a little like, hey, we know Gino was in the quarterback of the future. We know that. And we're not necessarily Sam Darnold is either, but we like him. And I think the biggest thing here too, Dan, is Clint Kubiak. He had a full year, right, with, with Sam Darnold when he was in New Orleans, I mean, San Francisco. So he knows what he's all about. He's been there, he's coached him. Sam Darnold's going to be able to know his offense quite, you know, quite quickly. There's so that makes sense. And Mike McDonald, I think what he's doing is he's kind of going, wait, the Pete Carroll era is over. I'm getting my own players, my own culture here, and I'm not, you know, we're going to get an offensive line. We're going to be about defense. We're going to be about like what I was at in Baltimore or Michigan before that, where we're going to play team football and it's not going to just be about the quarterback. And I think they're, you know, in the midst of reorganizing their organization here.

[Dan Patrick]

It's kind of interesting, slash, maybe sad to look at what happened to the Niners, like, what could have been. We know we talk about windows of opportunity. You're good friends with the head coach of the Niners that they're saying goodbye to. Good players still have some headliners there, but what's the future, the immediate future of the Niners I'm glad to see.

[Nate Thompson]

They'Re doing it right. You gotta, you gotta take a step back or rip the band aid off every now and then and start new or take a step back to get two or three steps forward. And I think that's where they are. They couldn't go on with the current rate of what they were doing. Right. I've made, I've had a lot of fun with this on my pod and with Florio on pft. I mean, just think about it. I mean their roster, the, the amount of money they have spent, the people they have on there, the high end guys, how, how can you, how can that be sustainable? They have a top five paid receiver in football and they had Debo Samuel, which was, you know, up there. They have a top three paid tight end in football. They have the number two paid running back in football. They have the top paid left tackle in football. They have to pay Brock Purdy. They have Fred Warner, who's a top three linebacker. Nick Bosa, top three defensive player in general. Lemon, your. Their nickelback, top paid nickelback in football. So you just, you eventually the, the rooster comes home to roost or something like that. Along those lines, you know what I'm trying to say? And the Pied Piper is, is here. So they got to just clean the checkbook here and start new. And yeah, that team we saw to go to four NFC championships and two Super Bowls, it's over. They're starting a new era.

[Dan Patrick]

How about a round of applause for Chris Simms for three cliches in about 10 seconds there.

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[Nate Thompson]

Yeah, that's what they call those Sims isms. I know you don't watch my Sims show all that much, but I, I seem to combine and confuse a lot of sayings. Right. Like if you read between the tea leaves, that's a pretty good one. On my podcast or my show a lot of the time. Right. I'm famous for that.

[Dan Patrick]

Devonte Adams to the Rams. But let me talk about Cooper Cup's market because they're. It looks like they're going to release him. Is he a third receiver for somebody now?

[Nate Thompson]

I think that's what it is, right. I don't like saying that. I like Cooper Cup. He's still got gas in the tank. But I mean he's the number two receiver with the Rams and they don't want him and they don't have many receivers, so I think there's that. Tell you something.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, they don't want him at that price.

[Nate Thompson]

Well, they. Exactly right. But yet they brought somebody else in for the same price to take his spot. Right. Or a little bit more.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, who would you rather have, Devonte Adams or Cooper Cup?

[Nate Thompson]

Devonte Adams.

[Dan Patrick]

I would.

[Nate Thompson]

Cooper Cup, I think, being a little bit between the injuries. Right. Getting up there in age, not separating quite the same way. I think the perfect world for him is to be. Yeah. You know, a 2 really slash 3 where he could go and be the slot guy. Right. He doesn't have to get outside and beat the top corners in football. And man to man, read coverages, run great routes, tough over the middle. That's where it makes sense for Cooper Cup. But no, certainly I would take Devonte Adams over him right now and Cooper.

[Dan Patrick]

Cup will end up with 80 catches with the Chiefs next.

[Nate Thompson]

Well, it could be exactly right. Exactly right. He'll find a spot where a team values that slot receiver who is smart and runs option routes the right way. And I wouldn't be shocked to see him have a little second wind of his career like we saw Adam Thielen when he went from Minnesota to Carolina, who still looks pretty damn good.

[Dan Patrick]

Tom Brady, you think pulled the trigger on the Geno Smith deal?

[Nate Thompson]

I think he gives him the final vote of confidence. One, hey, Pete Carroll, right. He's got history with Geno Smith, so he likes that. But I think. I think where I. And again, this. I kind of tweeted this out on. On Friday night or whatever night it went down that I think this was a look of Tom Brady going, I don't know if we want other quarterbacks not named Cam Ward at number six. Let's just go with a guy that we know can play is a little bit better than people realize. And you trust them, Pete. And he can start and jumpstart your culture in the locker room and convey your messages to those guys that way. I certainly think Tom Brady had a say in that. No question.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. And if I look at this from 10,000ft, it feels like Brady says, I need somebody that I can at least show up every Sunday and trust that he'll go out right. And, and. And he'll play quality football. He also has Brock Bowers. If they go after Ashton Gentee. And you got Max Crosby. Okay, now you have some entertainment here. Now you at least can be competitive in your own division with those other quarterbacks. And if you got Shador Sanders, I don't think he was going to start right away. You're not going to get Cam Ward. So you get somebody they don't. Yeah, I thought maybe they get Sam Darnold. But, you know, that'll tell you what.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Tom thought of the situation that give me the guy that I know is proven a little bit more over time than what we've seen with Sam.

[Nate Thompson]

That's right. Let alone the head coach knows him. Right?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Nate Thompson]

So that's good. That's a good thing. The head coach, I doubt wants a rookie quarterback. Right. Pete Carroll knows he's not there for seven years. He's probably going, damn, I might got two, three, four at the most. So I need somebody that can hit the ground running doing all that. And then I think, yes, Brady's seeing it like you're saying or like I'm saying, he's going down, this guy. Hey, he'll push the ball down the field. Damn, he moves better than people realize. Yeah, he's got a little experience. He sees the field and damn his arms. Powerful. He can. He can be sexy and exciting that way. And why we do that and all the things you mentioned, it buys Brady time and the team time to figure out what they want to do. Big picture, long term for the quarterback. Because eventually Brady's going to figure it out. As long as they're in a position to where they can get a quarterback, that makes sense. I mean, come on, Brady. Brady knows how to evaluate the position. He knows throwers when he sees them. He knows good decision makers. And I have no question he'll get that right eventually.

[Dan Patrick]

Have you hung out with Brady socially?

[Nate Thompson]

Not really. Hung out? No. No, not really.

[Dan Patrick]

When you were in New England?

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah, I was around a lot and around them and, you know, I had to hand them stuff all the time and, you know, I was always handing them papers and at the time I was always like, hey, Tom, we gotta get like, we're wasting like half of the Brazilian and Giselle's home country rainforest with all this stuff we're printing out every day. Let's save the world and go to like the tablets or the iPad. Wait, what was your job next year? It happened.

[Dan Patrick]

What was your job in New England?

[Nate Thompson]

Do whatever they say. Boy, that's what I was. I mean, that's. Yeah, I was quality control. I had some things involved in scouting and whatever they yelled at me to do next, that's. That was my job.

[Dan Patrick]

But how did it feel, though, when Tom says, hey, oh, did you hear? Tom's getting all the guys together, go out and have beers and then you weren't that far.

[Nate Thompson]

And then I wasn't invited, right? Well, one, he was like, well, he's not allowed out of his shackles. So they're not letting him out of his dungeon up there. But. But no, of course, that was a tough transition period in general. I'm sitting there just getting done playing football, going, damn, I'm better than some of these guys in the league. I can't believe this. Right? And yeah, I'd see him and some of the other guys on the team be like, yeah, I wish I could hang out with them. I wish I could go hang with Brady right now. I really love Tom Brady as a guy. I know. I've been on him about deflate gate. There's no doubt about that, and I won't back down from that. But everything else about Tom Brady I thoroughly admire. I admired my time with him, his work ethic.

[Dan Patrick]

And what bothers you about deflate? That he did it and didn't admit.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Dan Patrick]

But you know what, man? It's a stupid rule.

[Nate Thompson]

Well, it's not a stupid rule. I'll disagree with you there. Then. Then let the kids. Then let Mahomes throw a college football and see what you think about that. You're going to yards from his feet.

[Dan Patrick]

No, in NFL, you get to hand. You get the ball that you want and then I get the ball that I want.

[Nate Thompson]

I know, but if you. Because if you let me take air out of the football, my arm will go up exponentially and I'll be able to control it and doing things that I wouldn't be able to do if the ball was inflated properly. What is the big deal?

[Dan Patrick]

We're giving you an advantage. I get an advantage. I get the ball that I want. We do this with kickers. Why not with quarterbacks? It's silly.

[Nate Thompson]

Well, at some point there has to be a baseline for everybody has to do the same thing. So in basketball, do we want to. Some of the guys aren't shooting as good. Should we tell them to lower the basket or some of the guys don't run as fast. Should we tell some of the faster guys to slow down in the NFL? No.

[Dan Patrick]

Each offense gets their own football. We're not talking about lowering a rim.

[Nate Thompson]

That's. That's. That's not. No, I want something that's a. It's a sport of rules. And what we do when we play with a ball that's the same size, what sport does that go on?

[Dan Patrick]

You sound like your old man.

[Nate Thompson]

Baseballs. Hey, use a metal baseball bat this time up. Who cares? I mean, we'll let you use metal bats today, too. Let us use that.

[Dan Patrick]

Only two people who are affected by this? The quarterbacks. That's all. A couple of psis.

[Nate Thompson]

No, the quarterbacks. It does. And yes, it would affect you throwing it. It's going to help. It's going to help people who catch the ball. It's going to help the running backs and everybody else that has to grab the ball, not fumble the ball as much because it's not properly inflated. So now you can squeeze it to death. Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

You're. You're like your old man.

[Nate Thompson]

I'm just the realest dude you've ever met.

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[Nate Thompson]

That's just the way it is. Good to talk to you, but no, other than that. Brady's awesome. And. And what Brady did show us is that two weeks later in Super Bowl 49, he could throw lasers all over the field. And that's why I was mad at that, because I was like, you don't need that. You're the man. That's all. That was my point.

[Dan Patrick]

You know, Aaron Rodgers overinflated footballs.

[Nate Thompson]

I. Listen, if you want to make it harder on yourself, go ahead.

[Dan Patrick]

I mean, no, he told me that he over inflated. Nobody got upset about that because that.

[Nate Thompson]

Everybody would go, that's a disadvantage. Nobody in football would go, put a bigger object.

[Dan Patrick]

It had to be making. It had to be an advantage for him to overinflate it.

[Nate Thompson]

I mean, he must have just liked how it felt in his hand. Right. That. That would be the big thing. But I don't think you're going to find a common consensus of quarterbacks through the history of time. They're gonna go, make the ball bigger and heavier, and I'll throw it better. Aaron Rodgers is a freak of nature, right? He's got gigantic hands and he's arguably the greatest arm ever. And why'd you got to do this to me? Why'd you ever bring me down this lane with Brady and all this? Now I gotta hear this crap again? Brady's the man. Get off his back. Get off my back.

[Dan Patrick]

Get off my lawn. That's what you should be saying. Thank you, Chris. All right, guys, see you. Chris Sims Pro Football Talk LIVE CO Host, Football Night in America Look, Tom lied, that's all. It's a silly rule. Take a break, play the day Next. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

[Julius R. Binks]

It's Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League and I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson.

[Nate Thompson]

I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story after story to share. And believe it or not, I have plenty to say. And not just about hockey.

[Julius R. Binks]

Believe me, he does. Energy Line with Nate and JSB is the name of the podcast and it's going to be, well, it's going to be quite the ride. We're officially linemates, Nate. We're the Energy Line.

[Nate Thompson]

We'll have plenty of folks join us, current players, some of my former teammates, hall of Famers, and way to see some of the connections that Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex.

[Julius R. Binks]

Okay, we'll lean into Nate's playing experience and tap into our interests away from hockey and try to do what energy lines are supposed to do, provide an emotional boost. How do you feel about all that, Nate?

[Nate Thompson]

I'm vibing Julie. I'm ready to roll.

[Julius R. Binks]

Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Dan Patrick]

Here's advice from Google CMO Lorraine Twohill.

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[Nate Thompson]

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[Nate Thompson]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Nate Thompson]

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[Nate Thompson]

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[Nate Thompson]

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[Nate Thompson]

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[Nate Thompson]

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[Nate Thompson]

I couldn't believe it. I mean, Brendan, it was divine intervention.

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[Nate Thompson]

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[Dan Patrick]

The play of the day Hunter looks like on it. This is the play of the day. Check this out. White back to Hauser.

[Nate Thompson]

Yes, sir. Give it to him again. Oh, yeah, the Howitzer.

[Dan Patrick]

Hauser passes up the three.

[Nate Thompson]

Now he'll take it. Bullseye history for Hauser. Seven threes in the third.

[Dan Patrick]

Sam Houser, seventh three pointer of the night. He finished with nine three pointers. So that's four Celtics who have made nine or more three pointers in a game. First time in NBA history that you've had that. That's courtesy of NBC Sports Network Boston. That's your Play of the Day. Play of the Day, brought to you by Rapid Radio's official walkie talkie of the Dan Patrick show, offering national LTE coverage. No subscriptions ever. A great alternative for your kids or parents. Rapidradios.com gets 60% off and free shipping. Couple of phone calls here. Newton in Richmond. Hi, Newton. What's on your mind? Oh, Dan, thanks for letting me on this morning. So I rarely ever listen to Chris.

[Nate Thompson]

Sims with positive ears because when I.

[Dan Patrick]

Hear him, I see him with my.

[Nate Thompson]

Hearing with Mike Florio. They remind me of that little Bugs Bunny skit where the little mouse is the boss and the big bruiser cat.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, boss.

[Nate Thompson]

Yeah, whatever you say, but, yeah, you're the boss.

[Dan Patrick]

But I have to agree with him on the standardization of the ball inflation. And it just tore me up that.

[Nate Thompson]

I had to agree with him against you this morning. But I think he's right about that.

[Dan Patrick]

Why do you think he's right?

[Nate Thompson]

Well, because the. And you've thrown a ball, you've played with a basketball. You know what I'm talking about when.

[Dan Patrick]

I say that tautness, that hardness of.

[Nate Thompson]

The ball and the size of it.

[Dan Patrick]

You know, we're always talking and making.

[Nate Thompson]

Fun of small hand sizes and stuff like that.

[Dan Patrick]

That in and of itself creates a bit of a complication or a competitive thing that some people just can't get over. And I believe that because it's always been that way and we've taught kids and all this stuff.

[Nate Thompson]

I know that those sound like weak.

[Dan Patrick]

Arguments, but by the same token, I.

[Nate Thompson]

Think that having it standardized like that means that everybody's playing with the same.

[Dan Patrick]

Ball, by the same rules and have the same issues.

[Nate Thompson]

Unless you just got big hands, in.

[Dan Patrick]

Which case you win the genetic lottery. Thank you, Newton. Anybody know Joe Montana's hand size? Steve Young's hand size? Dan Marino's? It's silly. Each guy gets his choice of how he wants the football. And so that's for him, his wide receivers and his running backs. You factor in all of that it's not like you're dribbling down half court. You get to half court, then you get to pick up another basketball that suits your team. You get the football how you like it. We let kickers do that. They get their own ball. It's silly. What happened was Tom Brady lied to the commissioner. That's it. It's a dumb rule. Now, should he have been punished for lying? Yes, and he did. He really got punished and embarrassed. But it's a silly rule. The fact that Aaron Rodgers said that on this show he wanted. He inflated the ball. Inflated the ball more. He wanted it hard as a rock. So somebody inflated the footballs for him. He never got in trouble. But Tom deflated the football. Had somebody do that. Yeah. Paulie.

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The goal of the rule according to the NFL, is to prevent teams from using footballs outside the allowable inflation range in order to fit a quarterback's preference or align better with weather conditions.

[Dan Patrick]

Why both quarterbacks get the same advantage.

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It's not like the home field prepares the footballs for the entire game for both teams. Does not happen that way.

[Dan Patrick]

Make it silly, I mean, random, that we're revisiting something that's quite a few years old. But the fact that Chris Sims, who played the position you would think you'd go. It's silly. I should be able to have the football. You have the football. The rule is still in place. More phone calls coming up. Auburn head coach Bruce Pearl will stop by as well.

[Julius R. Binks]

What's up, everyone? Julie Swearbinks here along with former NHL player Nate Thompson.

[Nate Thompson]

We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go.

[Julius R. Binks]

The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb.

[Nate Thompson]

Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right?

[Julius R. Binks]

Exactly. And you'll never know who will drop by to join us.

[Nate Thompson]

Julie is pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe.

[Julius R. Binks]

Listen to Energy Line with Nate and JSB on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Are you hungry?

[Nate Thompson]

Colleen Witt here and Eating While Broke.

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Is back for season four every Thursday on the Black Effect Podcast Network. This season we've got a legendary lineup serving up broke dishes and even better soup. On the menu, we have Tony Baker, Nick Cannon, Melissa Ford, October London and Carrie Harper. Howie Turning Big Macs into big moves.

[Nate Thompson]

Catch Eating While Broke every Thursday on.

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The Black Effect Podcast Network. IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts. Wherever you get your favorite shows, come hungry for season four. I'm Mark Seal and I'm Nathan King.

[Nate Thompson]

This is Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli.

[Dan Patrick]

The five families did not want us.

[Nate Thompson]

To shoot that picture.

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This podcast is based on my co host Mark Seals best selling book of the same title. Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli features new and archival interviews with Francis Ford Coppola, Robert Evans, James Caan, Talia Shire and many others.

[Nate Thompson]

Yes, that was a real horse's head.

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Listen and subscribe to Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This is Mel Reid, LPGA Tour winner and six time Lady Jupine Tour winner and Kyra K. Dixon, NBC Sports Reporter and host and got a new podcast Quiet Please with Mel and Kira.

[Julius R. Binks]

We are bringing you spicy takes on sports and pop culture. Some interviews with incredible people who have.

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Figured out how to make golf their superpower. An iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Did you know that 70% of people get hired at companies where they already have a connection? I'm Andrew Seaman, LinkedIn's editor at large for jobs and career development and on my podcast Get Hired, I bring you all the information you need to, well, get hired. Landing a job may be tough, but Get Hired is here for you every step of the way with advice on resumes, networking, negotiation and so much more. Listen to Get Hired with Andrew seaman on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you like to listen.