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You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Hope you had a great weekend. Gang's all here. Ready go on this first hour on a Monday. Dan and the Dan It's Dan Patrick Show. Fritzy Seaton, Marv Paulie, yours truly. Let me start with the bad news. Joe Burrow will need toe surgery according to Adam Schefter and he will miss a minimum of three months. You win a game, but you lose your quarterback. And here we go with the Cincinnati Bengals. A win against Jacksonville, but they lose their quarterback in the process. All right, Best and worst of the weekend. 8773-DP-SHoVE email address dp@dan patrick twitter handle @dpSHoVE Stat of the day is always brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the show first hour brought to you by the folks have been doing it for 40 years. Tire rack tirerack.com the way tire buying should be Ship fast and free backed by free road hazard protection convenient installation options. Tirerack.com the way tire buying should be the merge store is open if you have some time open for business with some new gear@danpatrick.com Play of the Day Poll questions Stat of the Day all of that forthcoming. But let me start with the Bengals because they have failed. Business 101 protect your investment back in 2023, Burrow signed that 5 year 275 million dollar contract. The front office surrounded him with weapons. Jamar Chase T. Higgins, arguably the best receiving duo in football. But the offensive line. And that's not just limiting Joe Burrow's ceiling, it's keeping him off the field. Now in 2020, he tore just about every ligament in his knee. Ended his rookie year. 2022 MCL sprain 2023 a calf strain torn wrist ligament. Now two weeks into the season and his Season is over. He'll be out for a minimum of three months. And at some point, you think Cincinnati would learn its lesson. You don't hand out these contracts without protecting those who are making that kind of money. Without Burrow, the Bengals, they were contenders to maybe an afterthought, and that can happen in a hurry. I know it's only two weeks, but this is one of those once again, where you go if you're a Bengal fan. It's not a question of if Joe Burrow is going to get hurt, it's which body part here. And now with turf toe. And this is the weird part of football, here's the smallest thing you could injure. It's a toe, but it's turf toe. And he's going to need surgery. But three months, he'll be out. All right. Some of the other games I'll just run down. Eagles over the Chiefs. Mike Holtz beat the Broncos on the leverage play. Todd not in a good mood today. Seahawks surprised the Steelers. Falcons handled the Vikings last night. The Niners over the Saints. Patriots with a big win against the Dolphins. Lions roll the Bears and Cowboys escape the Giants. And what a great game. Back and forth, wild tonight. You got the Buccaneers. They're getting two and a half against the Texans. Chargers are giving three and a half against my Raiders. College football Georgia and overtime. Miami rolls U usf. My, my. Bulls and A and M over Notre Dame. Vandy drops South Carolina and Georgia Tech stuns Clemson as well. Phone calls ready to go. Tyler sitting by. He'll take your phone calls. The Kansas City Chiefs game against the Eagles. The Eagles were favored and there was some controversy there with the tush push. And I have no problem with the play because it's just me against you. You know what we're doing, try to stop it. But something happened yesterday that I think will change the tush push. And that is Dean Blandino, former head of officials now is, you know, he reviews plays for Fox. He says, I'm done. During the broadcast. He says, I'm done with the tush push. You can't officiate it. And I went ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. If the NFL home office is going to hear that because they don't have the data. I think from what I was told, my source said they were trying to gather data that would say, hey, we got to get rid of this play. They don't want the play, but you have to have a reason to get rid of the play. And the reason was going to be, oh, look at the injuries well, they didn't have the data and then all of a sudden you're going, okay, yeah, I guess it's back in. Well, when Dean Blandino said that yesterday, I thought, there is the out. The NFL can say, we can't officiate this play. We can't see everything that's going on. Well, there were a couple things you could see and they couldn't officiate that because it looked like there was false start or the Chiefs were lined up in the neutral zone. These are all things that can be officiated. But they, when Dean Blandino said that, I thought the NFL has its out because they don't have the injury information. But you have, we just can't officiate this play now. It's not fair, you know, to the Eagles because the Eagles, you know, they designed this play. Everybody can run this play. They're not the only ones. It's not like, hey, that's our play. You can't run that. And that's why I said, you know, I can't penalize the Eagles because they're really good at this play, but the officials have to be really good at that play as well. And they weren't yesterday. Now, did I think the Eagles were better than the Chiefs? Yes, I did, yesterday. But you know, this is going to be the. Oh, my gosh, The Chiefs are 0 and 2. Okay? They weren't supposed to win this one. They have a game on the road against the Chargers and Justin Herbert has one of best games of his career. I, you know, these people who bail after one game or two games, you bail, don't come back. And like the Lions after week one lost their coordinators. I don't know. Now, the Bears can make anybody look good, apparently. But even with this, the Eagles are the best team in football right now, and they proved it. They went to Kansas City, but it was a close game. It just, we get on a bandwagon and then all of a sudden it's like, I'm off the, the Arch Manning bandwagon. Paul Feinbomb, who I have great respect for, but he, you know, fallen victim to the hot take squad here and then you know, hey, this guy's the best, most talented quarterback since Tim Tebow. And I went, how do we know this? There's no sample size where you go, yep, he's good. Teams are going to tank for archmen and like, golly, can we slow down on saying stupid things? I get it. You want somebody to notice you. You're going to say these crazy Things I have no reason to believe Arch Manning. If Arch Manning is not Arch Manning, we would not be. This would not be a discussion. Oh, but his, you know, his grandfather and his uncles and I get all of those things. I want to see what he does. I want. I was fair to him against Ohio State. Extremely tough conditions. But, you know, when you're playing utep, I expect you to light it up. Unless he's injured. That was the only caveat I would add to this. Let me see what he does. Let's be fair to him. We're hyping him. He's not now. He's taking advantage of the hype with nil. But. And I would have discouraged him from doing that first year. I would. I would have said, you don't need the money. You know, just go out like, Andrew Luck did this his first year in the NFL. RG3 got all the commercials. Andrew Luck said, no, I'm just going to go ahead and play football. I would have told Arch, don't do it. You know, your family's got money. Don't do it. Because then you go to those commercial breaks after you've, you know, thrown an interception or, you know, got sacked and just. It's not a good look there. But besides that, you know, I. I gotta give him a chance here. Everybody was in on J.J. mcCarthy, right? Maybe not so much today after last night. That's what we've become. It's. So I gotta get this out. I gotta have a hot take. You don't have to. Rex Ryan said Russell Wilson can't play. That was a week ago. Can Russ still play now? He's somewhere in between week one and week two and the Cowboys defense. Imagine if the Cowboys had a pass rusher yesterday. But Russ can throw the deep ball, and Dallas let him throw the deep ball. But Rex Ryan said Russell Wilson can't play anymore. You stand by that? Hey, you got to get Jackson dart in there. You don't have some patience. Let Russ play for a month and then see what you have with the team. And Russ played well enough to win. And I don't know, the interception, I don't know if that's on him. I'll have to wait. The guys who break down film. It looked like it might have been the wrong pass route run by neighbors. Might have been, in fairness to Russ, but he did play really well. But, man, do we want to. We got it all figured out. We do not have it figured out as much as we think we do. We don't. Yes.
Paulie Marv
Paulie I have a five minute poll question before we get to our normal. Who had the worst weekend? Should the Cincinnati Bengals call the Atlanta Falcons this morning about Kirk Cousins?
Dan Patrick
If you think that your team legitimately is going to make the playoffs, I would probably stay with, you know, Jake Browning. He's not as good as Kirk Cousins, but Cousin's going to cost you a lot of money. Now, I think the better question that Paulie ask is should the Falcons call the Bengals? Yeah. Hey, Kirk Cousin, I mean, Michael Penix Jr. III played well last night, right? You could get Kirk Cousins off the books. I would, I would at least inquire. But if I'm the Bengals and the Bengals are thrifty trying to be kind.
Paulie Marv
As is Kirk Cousins.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, thrifty. I would stay with Jake Browning. I mean, you got two really good receivers who need to act like two really good receivers here. But three months, boy, that's if, I mean, that's your season right there. Can you still carve out nine wins? I mean, they got the win yesterday against Jacksonville. That's the important part of this. But you start to look at these situations and that's why when you make predictions, you know, Joe Burrow was MVP like last year. He was unbelievable. If they make the playoffs, maybe he's your mvp. Although, you know, Josh Allen and Lamar had spectacular years. But, you know, you're trying to figure out, okay, he's going to be MVP this year. Bengals going to make the playoffs. Now that's gone watching, you know, people. All in. All in. You know the Pittsburgh Steelers. Okay. Aaron Rodgers. Yeah. Until no against Seattle. So these things, you know, you're trying to figure them out in real time. Are you off Kansas City? You were off Detroit. There's a market correction that happens every single year. Somebody's going to be really good. Better than you thought. Somebody's not going to be as good a couple of teams. You know, maybe, maybe that team is Kansas City. Maybe they're not as good as we thought. You know, I, I think the Raiders are better, the Chargers are better, the Broncos, I mean, how about The Niners? Mac Jones 2 0? I mean, they're banged up too. Yes, Marvin, it's amazing what happens when you give that guy a chance. Well, I didn't think they would fall off that much because Mac Jones is sort of a Brock Purdy type quarterback and they were interested in Mac Jones when he was coming out. So I'm not surprised at that. He should be pretty good. Got experience, maybe he uses this to get a new contract. Someplace else. Maybe it's like Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold with Seattle. How about that? Big win on the road. All right, so we'll get phone calls. Best and worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked, you didn't like. We'll talk some college football coming up as well. EJ Manuel ESPN College football analyst former NFL quarterback Bill Cower. The Steelers will stop by. Well, he's of cbs, but you think of Cower, you think Steelers. Seaton, you have poll questions for us?
Fritzy Seaton
Heck yeah, dude.
Dan Patrick
After the break.
Fritzy Seaton
Heck yeah, dude.
Dan Patrick
Okay, all right, fair enough. How's morale? Sorry, I know you're down.
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E.J. Manuel
I'm just. It was. That was a tough, that was a.
Dan Patrick
Tough one to take. I would like to have seen what you look like.
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You did not want to see that. My wife had to deal with that. She was right next to me and she.
Dan Patrick
What did it sound like I was.
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I was just so frustrated by letting Daniel Jones look like Joe Montana. Over 300 yards passing, 165 yards rushing. They give up to Taylor, they miss a field goal late to go up 5, which means obviously anything other than a touchdown, you win. And then don't get me started on the last seconds with the 60 yarder and then the 45 yard field goal.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, these 60 yarders are nothing now. And you get the ball at the 35 yard line, two first downs, you're in field goal range and, and the Colts played for a 60 yard field goal. They didn't try to improve, they didn't try to go for more yards. They're like, no, we're good. The Cowboys, it's like, Ah, you 64? Yeah, yeah. Good. It's not a big deal. Although aesthetically, you know, the NFL wants those high scoring plays and you know, then all of a sudden you bring out the. The least football like player and he's going to decide these games. But, and the pressure. Brandon Aubrey, who's going to be a free agent, 64 yarder. So four career field goals of at least 60 yards. He'll end up with the longest. I wouldn't be surprised. He ends up with his 67, 68 yarder and passes Justin Tucker on the all time list. All right, we'll take a break, we'll talk some college football. Bad loss for Notre Dame. Tennessee game was wonderful. There's a few things to chat about with EJ Manuel and your phone calls, poll questions as well. Just getting started here. Dan and the Dan at Stan Patrick show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app hey, it's me, Rob Parker. Check out my weekly MLB podcast, Inside the Parker for 22 minutes of piping.
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Fritzy Seaton
Well, let's start off where we always do.
Dan Patrick
Who?
Fritzy Seaton
I mean, we're gonna go NFL edition and college football editions of Worst weekend. Would you like to start in college or the NFL?
Dan Patrick
Let's start college. Sure.
Fritzy Seaton
Why not? Start with the kids. Clemson.
Dan Patrick
Oh, big win for Georgia Tech. You know, Clemson had to rally to be Troy, like they could conceivably owe in three. And this is, you know, a team and a coach that wanted out of the ACC and then negotiated some kind of sweetheart deal to stay in the acc. And then you're getting roughed up here a little bit. Long, long, long odds, I would say, I guess, to make the playoffs. I think it's like 5% to make the playoffs, but. Yeah. Nah, that's a bad lost dog. What else?
Fritzy Seaton
The Tennessee Volunteers.
Dan Patrick
God, that was a win. That was a win, and then it wasn't a win. This is. This is how it sounded on Learfield Sports. For the lead with seven seconds to go.
Shay Irving
Snap, set, kick, on the way.
E.J. Manuel
No good.
Dan Patrick
The kick is no good. Here is the Georgia call of that missed field goal kicking to the right. Gilbert to try to put Tennessee ahead. The kick is away. And the kick is no good. He missed it.
Shay Irving
Oh, my goodness. What the heck happened there?
Dan Patrick
That is Scott Howard. His call. The Georgia called there. That was a wild game. Back and forth. And I thought Tennessee. I thought Tennessee. They were up 21 7. I'm thinking, all right, win these games, you know. What else do you have there, Seaton? Let's see.
Fritzy Seaton
Worst weekend in college football. How about Notre Dame?
Dan Patrick
Yes, I know. There was a hold on the touchdown toss. And you gotta call that like, that's blatant. That's not one of those. That. I don't know. We can't kind of see that. I don't. We didn't have a good angle. It felt like the official chose not to call holding on that play because it was a tackle. It wasn't a hold. The Notre Dame player got tackled and would have impacted the quarterback's throw. But that was. You lose at home. And granted, A and M is a ranked team, but that's 0 and 2 now.
Paulie Marv
Yeah, Paulie, Notre Dame's 02 is not debilitating. 02 like other teams. They played two tough teams, no cupcakes. And the college football committee wants them in the playoffs, so they just take care of business the next two months, and they'll be right back in the thick of things.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, they're 0 and 2. Sounds better than Clemson's 1 and 2.
Paulie Marv
Oh, way better.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. What else do you have seen?
Fritzy Seaton
That's what we have for the college.
Dan Patrick
Okay.
Fritzy Seaton
All right, we can switch over to the end.
Dan Patrick
Can we put UCLA in there?
Fritzy Seaton
I mean, if we need to.
Dan Patrick
Well, their coach got fired.
Paulie Marv
That might be a decent weekend.
Fritzy Seaton
I was going to put that in some best.
Dan Patrick
My goodness.
Paulie Marv
Oh, and three. It's.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. How many games did Foster get? Like 15 games. Ugly scenes there, man. Well, nobody's there.
Fritzy Seaton
Yeah, they show that like an aerial shot or something.
Dan Patrick
That's where you got to be really strategic in how you place your cameras. Let's not show the entire stadium. Yeah. Pulling.
Paulie Marv
And now UCLA is going to start the tough part of their schedule. They had easier games in theory.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. And welcome to the Big Ten. Yeah. Yes, Marvin.
E.J. Manuel
And Nico, the quarterback from ucla, he might be a cautionary tale on what.
Dan Patrick
Not to do when concerning nil.
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Dan Patrick
Well, he bailed on Tennessee. He wanted more money.
E.J. Manuel
He didn't get more money.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. And Aguilar looks like he's, you know, he had a good game. He's real dang. Yeah. Ucla. Yikes. Yeah.
Paulie Marv
UCLA has had this rep and we hear it a lot, that they're not serious financially about football, that they're big into education or something. But boo.
Dan Patrick
How dare you. Dare you be into education. That's why I always laugh when somebody will say, hey, you know what our grade point average is? You know, 3.2 as a team. And I'll go, how many games you win?
Fritzy Seaton
Very proud of that.
Dan Patrick
Very proud of that. You know, we were bull eligible. We won six games. I'm like, okay, nobody talk about a lot, but I'm really proud of that. Nobody, nobody cares about your gpa. No one.
Shay Irving
No one.
Dan Patrick
The NFL. Who had the worst weekend?
Fritzy Seaton
Oh, brother. Worst weekend. NFL Edition. Paul's Chicago Bears.
Dan Patrick
I'm going to take the Bengals off the board. Okay. Because Joe Burrow's out for three months.
Fritzy Seaton
That was a question.
Dan Patrick
Okay, so Paulie's Bears.
Fritzy Seaton
Yeah, the Dolphins.
Dan Patrick
Paul, would you like to respond?
Paulie Marv
It's very fair because again, it's the first half of September and you feel like it's a non threatening season. It's hard to be hard to watch football the next three months.
Dan Patrick
And I do think Caleb Williams is better than last year, but I don't know if that's good enough because I didn't matter how good Caleb Williams was yesterday. That defense wasn't stopping anybody. All right, who else do you have seen?
Fritzy Seaton
Let's see, we have, yeah, the Bears. We have the Dolphins. That's a tough week.
Dan Patrick
It's a bad loss for the Dolphins. Okay, I love Mike McDaniel, but, but I like him because he's a good guest. He's not the coach of my football team. I don't know if he, his personality at press conferences are just a personality at a press conference or is this who he really is? Here's Mike McDaniel, the dolphins head coach after the loss to the Patriots. To win games, you have to win.
Fritzy Seaton
The game, not lose the game honestly.
Dan Patrick
And that, that is how you lose the game. You're moving the, you're moving the ball.
Fritzy Seaton
Down the field, your first and 10.
Dan Patrick
And then you find yourself at second and 20. You know that that was critical. I thought Drake May played really, really well. I'm not surprised the Patriots won that game. But when they're flying a plane with a banner prior to the start of the game saying fire Mike McDaniel.
Shay Irving
I.
Dan Patrick
Don'T think it's going to end well. But we kind of handicap this of if it starts to go south. Do you end up trading Tyree Kill? Tyree Kill didn't look too happy on the sidelines either. E.J. manuel. He provides studio coverage every Saturday throughout the season on ESPN with Matt Berry and Joey Galloway. Also co host the ACC Network Football podcast. Good to see you again, E.J. how do you think things are going in Clemson today?
E.J. Manuel
Oh, first and foremost, Dan, great to see you as well. Just want to say you are an absolute legend and since today's my dad's birthday, we will wake up and watch you on SportsCenter every single day. When I was young, not to age you at all, Dan. Still look good, but want to give you your flowers here as I joined the show. I'll tell you what, man, look, it's probably a dark, gloomy, maybe rainy day in Clemson, South Carolina. And this is a team that came into the season with so much hype and expectation, preseason, all Americans and potential first overall pick in the quarterback in Klubnick and they just haven't played consistently well. And the crazy part, Dan, is they've been out physical in some portions of the game and going into this matchup with Georgia Tech, who is a tough team because of their head coach and Brent Key, that's exactly what happened. And you know, they made some plays but ultimately Georgia Tech made more. And that's what Tech has done since Keys been the head coach.
Dan Patrick
But do you think if I said Notre Dame at Owen 2 or Clemson at 1 and 2, who's in worse shape?
E.J. Manuel
You would say, I'd say Notre Dame is in worse shape.
Dan Patrick
Really?
E.J. Manuel
Yeah, because they don't have a conference championship to rely on, Dan. So that's the part for Notre Dame as an independent that we have to take into consideration. So even if they go undefeated from this point forward, they're still going to have to really have a resume that shows, hey, we belong in the top 12 to get into the playoff. Whereas for Clemson, you look at it, this is just one conference loss. So they still have a ton more conference games to play. They went out potentially still make it to Charlotte first weekend in December and can play for ACC championship like they did last year. And they actually lost one game in conference to Louisville in 2024 and still were able to make the playoffs. So I would say right now Notre Dame's in a bit more, you know, tougher shape than Clemson is.
Dan Patrick
What happened at ucla?
E.J. Manuel
Oh, dude.
Dan Patrick
Do they want to be serious as a football program?
E.J. Manuel
You know, I had this conversation with Matt Berry and Joey Galloway over the weekend as we're watching all the games and to me, Dan, I think it's a great job. You know, we were having that discussion. Is this a good spot for another, you know, big name head coach? Because I know now desean Foster is now fired. I think it's a great spot. And look, I lived in LA for three years. Once I finished playing with the Raiders, I had a little place out there. It was great. Westwood's beautiful. It always seemed like the sun was shining. But as far as football, I don't know what it is. I'm not sure if it's buy in from the presidents or university presidents or just simply getting good players. Because I don't understand how you can be in Los Angeles and not get really good talent in that area. If you just draw a circle around la, you should be able to have a competitive team. So I don't know if it's going to the Big Ten. I'm not sure if it's trying to figure it out with the quarterback because keep in mind, Nico Malava got there pretty late in the process. So as a qb, sometimes you need six or seven months to really learn an offense to truly master it. But right now, again, similar what I said about Clemson. They're being out physical, out coached at times. And that's why now they're going to get a new head coach.
Dan Patrick
The Tennessee kicker, Max Gilbert. Yeah, he misses the field goal. I'm curious, what is it like to go to class on that Monday after a bad game? You being the quarterback?
E.J. Manuel
Yeah.
Dan Patrick
You know, I mean, at Florida State, this is different, because if you're a professional kicker, you're not seeing people other than your teammates when you go to practice. This guy has to walk on campus and go to classes. And what's that feeling like, dude?
E.J. Manuel
It's not a good feeling at all, Dan. And, you know, it's one of those things. I would allude it to this. So imagine if there's a really pretty girl in class that you sit next to and she saw you the first couple of weeks, hey, good game. I see you out there doing your thing, and then you go to class that next Monday after a loss, and she doesn't say anything to you. And that's literally what it is, man. It's one of those just where, you know, you have to wear it for the next six days until you get a chance to play again, and hopefully you win. But it's tough. It's definitely tough. Not easy.
Dan Patrick
Miami Hurricanes contender.
E.J. Manuel
They are. I think they're national championship contender. It's funny, I actually texted the offensive coordinator this morning, Shannon Dawson. And I know I'm a Seminole, so technically we shouldn't like each other, but as a professional, you know, and also, I was getting recruited by Mario Crystal Ball years ago, so I've had a relationship with him. They look really good. They're great in all three phases. Carson Beck is playing at a high level. And I said this back in the summer, Dan, that when he got to Miami, being in this offense, if you watch the growth of Cam Ward last year, a lot of this is because of play calling from Shannon Dawson or O.C. so he's somebody to keep in mind as far as potential head coaching jobs in the future. But also, they got an excellent offensive line. Defense is really physical, so Miami certainly is a contender.
Dan Patrick
Feels like everybody we're talking to E.J. manuel, ESPN college football studio analyst, the Arch Manning hype train. There was no room, you know, even in coach class. It was. It was overhyped. And the machine now feels like there's plenty of room in first class here for Arch Manning. What have you seen and if. And I know, I don't know if he was getting booed, but the offense was getting booed and he's the quarterback of that offense. But handicap what you've seen and what we should expect out of Arch Manning.
E.J. Manuel
Well, what I've seen is him just not feeling comfortable. And I don't know if this is necessarily to play calls because he's been in this offense for two Seasons now, going on three as the backup in the first two. But you should have some comfort at this point. And I do think this is partly just the emotion of handling the expectation, being a Manning. And your grandpa was a Hall of Famer, your two uncles are hall of Famers. And all the, you know, talk that goes into the off season and shoot, I mean, he was on preseason list as a first teamer and I didn't really play the full season. And so those types of things, I, I think one is shown that he's human and we all know that he's human. But I think this is an area where you still see a young man that's growing, that's learning. I'm sure if you ask Coach Sarkeesian, does he expect him to play better? Sure. But as a young, inexperienced steel quarterback, this is what, his fifth or sixth start of his career. Dan, he is technically, you know, on, on time. And the good thing, too, they've only lost Ohio State in close fashion. They won these two most recent games. Again, not against tough opponents, but the team's still winning. So I think right now for Arch is about building confidence, continuing to play with great timing like he did in 2024. And that's really why I think the hype was there, because he looked really good. But it is a different layer of being the backup versus when you're the full time guy.
Dan Patrick
You look back at your rookie season in the NFL, if I could say to you, you could change something because it feels like all of these rookie quarterbacks come in and they all make the same mistake. Take me back to that rookie season and how you felt and what you didn't realize.
E.J. Manuel
Yeah, it's a great, great question. So the one thing that I would look back on, this is probably going to surprise people, but I actually got hurt in the preseason, so I tore my meniscus in the second preseason game. Same injury that JJ McCarthy had last year as a rookie and got surgery. Fought back to be able to play and all that kind of stuff. And truly, man, looking back when I wish I advocated for myself and say, hey, coach, can I get like fully healthy before I start my NFL career? Because you get judged as if you're fully healthy. And so that was one part of it. The other part too, I think just continue to grow and learn the game. And also reaching out to veterans, reaching out to other guys, even if they weren't on my team, Reaching out to a Donovan McNabb or a Warren Moon or Michael Vic, guys who I knew would Be willing to help me and to, you know, kind of teach me in the off seasons of just how to be a pro. That was one thing I didn't really have within the locker room. But as far as playing, look, I mean, you got to make the throws, you got to make the reads. You got to be accountable as well when you win and certainly have to be accountable when you lose. But looking back on it, of course I still wish I was out there playing because I got buddies who are still out there going. But I'm proud of it, man. It is what it is. I learned a ton while I was in Buffalo, met some great people and still root for the Bills to this day.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, but I see these quarterbacks, they don't step up in the pocket. They think that they can make a play. Even Cam Ward rolling right and throwing back left is a terrible throw. It is. I mean, great, great result, but a terrible, terrible throw.
E.J. Manuel
So let me touch on that. I think a little bit of it is, again, an experience. I think the other part is these quarterbacks were able to get away with it in college, and you assume, hey, I could still make this play. And you know what, Dan? The game has changed. I mean, the game now, the quarterback position is predicated off of athleticism. I mean, the best quarterbacks in our league right now, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, like, these guys are all very agile, very good athletes that can move around and make plays. So you're right, sometimes it's not a pretty play. It's not, you know, the basic, hey, five and a hitch or something, seven in the hitch, step up in the pocket. But, you know, again, for young quarterbacks, I think it's a little bit of grace and giving them that opportunity to grow and make mistakes. And as long as there's a plan, I think that's the other thing, too, Dan. For young quarterbacks, there has to be a plan set in place for them for three years to say, hey, look, you got to hit this benchmark. You got to get and show me that you've had this amount of growth in this amount of time. And that way, I think you can actually scale the amount of growth that you've seen from guys. Look at Patrick Mahomes, look at Josh Allen, how they grew up, you know, in their early 10 years. Jordan Love, you know, he got to sit for three seasons before he came to starter. So a lot of it's about development.
Dan Patrick
Joe Burrow's not doing anything athletically for the next three months.
E.J. Manuel
Yeah, that is unfortunate. I saw that.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, yeah. Turf toe. That's one of those. When you hear turf toe. Jack Lambert, I think, ended his career with turf toe. Dion with turf toe. Like it's just one of those injuries where you go, huh?
E.J. Manuel
Yeah, yeah. It's tough, too, because Joe's playing so well. He is playing. So I actually was watching the quarterback series on Netflix and just getting a peek behind his mind and how he goes about his daily life as far as a qb. So it's unfortunate. Look, you know, I think it's Jake Browning who's going to be the backup. You know, he's played well and I know that he's still got some really good pieces, T. Higgins and Jamar Chase and those kind of guys to still make some plays for him. So, you know, Coach Zach got a lot, a lot of work to do at this point, but they'll certainly be missing.
Dan Patrick
Joe, my best to your father. Happy birthday to your father and great to talk to you again. E.J.
E.J. Manuel
Likewise. Thanks, Dan.
Dan Patrick
E.J. manuel. He was the 16th pick overall out of Florida State back in 2013. And every Saturday throughout the season, he's with Matt Berry, Joey Galloway on the mothership.
Paulie Marv
Yeah, Paul, it's such a full circle interview. We had E.J. manuel on two weeks before the NFL draft and he blew us away with the interview. We all fell in love with the guy. And that was two weeks before his draft.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, it was one of those where I came away saying I don't know how good he's going to be, but I'm rooting for him. We'll take a break. We'll get to your phone calls. Coming up, it's a Monday, best and worst of the weekend. But up next, our play of the day. FOX Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.
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Dan Patrick
Oh my God. The play is going. Play of the day.
Jonas Knox
Winner looks like Got it.
Dan Patrick
This is the play of the day. Check this out. 4th and goal from the 11 yard down 6, 40 to 34. Concepcion in motion from right to left.
E.J. Manuel
The shotgun snap.
Dan Patrick
Marcel throws. End zone caught.
Shay Irving
Touchdown.
Dan Patrick
We're tied. An extra point to come. Reed threw for 360 and two touchdowns. The win was Texas A M's first on the road against a ranked opponent since 2014 when they beat number three, Auburn. That's courtesy of Learfield Sports. That's your play of the day and it's brought to you by. Rapid Radio is the official walkie talkie of the Dan Patrick Show. Push to talk nationwide LTE coverage. No subscriptions. Business owners. Stay connected with your employees anywhere. Visit rapidradios.com up to 60 off and free shipping. We'll get to your phone calls coming. Oh, look who called in. Shay and Irving joining us after that impressive Dallas Cowboys win yesterday. Hey, Shay.
Shay Irving
Danny, you got me. You got to be kidding me with that win. What we witnessed yesterday is what the Cowboys actually are not being able to put away. A bad Giants team. Defense optional. Dak threw the ball 52 times, 25 design runs. Shoddy is nothing but the ginger 2.0 making Russell Wilson look like freaking Joe Montana. And Danny, it took the Gospel of John to get me through this game. The truth shall set you free. This team ain't nothing without the best kicker in the history of the NFL. Thank God for the mvp.
Dan Patrick
Imagine if you had a pass rusher yesterday. Would that have helped, do you think?
Shay Irving
You know what? You know what? I fell over my chair. Danny, guess who got a freaking sack? Kenny Clark. Kenny Clark got a sack. The amount of tweets I got after that freaking. I want to throw my phone to the river. Danny.
Dan Patrick
It'S going to be a rough year for you when your best player is your kicker, you know that. It's not a lot of highlights when you go. Can't wait for him to come on the field.
Shay Irving
Thank God for him. We're owing to without him and Jerry Jones is just crying in. Danny, the defense, the secondary and how do you let Dak throw the ball? I know it was overtime. He had like 47, 48 pass attempts at the end of the game versus 25 design runs. What the hell are they doing?
Dan Patrick
Did you watch the game by yourself?
Shay Irving
Hopefully I did, yeah. I skipped my kids. You know, I missed U11 soccer all day, which, you know, real heartbreaker there. And then I had to watch this monstrosity.
Dan Patrick
Well, enjoy the win.
Shay Irving
Please give me a break.
Dan Patrick
Thank you, Jay. I did think about, you know, it's going back and forth and I just can't imagine that gets good that he's watching by himself because you can't have kids around him. You can't even have grown ups around him.
Paulie Marv
Yeah, Paulie, I'm in a better mood than Shay and I'm a bear stamp.
Dan Patrick
Yeah, he at least won. Al in Atlanta, speaking of winners. Hi Al. Welcome back. Best and worst.
Shay Irving
Good morning, Dan. I got a best and then I got one that you guys can decide what it is. So Saturday we had a watch party for college football all day and the cheer that brought all the women in from the dining hall because they're there more for the parties than the game. Part of the gathering into the room when that Tennessee kicker missed that field goal wide right. So the room was packed to watch Georgia win in overtime. Definitely the best feeling of the weekend. And then Sunday came and I was stressing all day, waiting for Sunday night, not knowing what's gonna happen because I purposely overslept yesterday again last week so I could not be able to call in and have to face that horrible loss not knowing what the Falcons are going to give me. And the game finally gets there and it's just a stressful, oh, we can't do anything on offense in the red zone when they're kicking field goals. Thank God we have a kicker that can hit field goals finally. And we don't pull it out until the end and we get a win. But does it really mean anything? Because I've felt this feeling before. We've been one on one in the past. I can't remember the last time it was. But we were there.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. Okay. It took you a long time to get to the ah, you least won the game. Lucas in Texas. Best and worst. Luke.
Shay Irving
Hey, Dan. Good morning.
Dan Patrick
Good morning.
Shay Irving
All right. Best and worst. Best. I'm gonna go with my my Texas A and M Aggies find some stellar offensive line play, especially late in the game, pulling off that big win at Notre Dame. A win is a win and we will get out of town as quick as we can with it. My worst of the weekend. I want to nominate New York Giants offensive lineman James Hudson for the worst offensive series in NFL history. If you saw it live, he had four penalties, I think one personal foul holding off all start all in about two real time minutes of the game.
Dan Patrick
And then he had a meltdown on the sidelines after that. Thank you. Lucas Seaton, would you update the poll results from the first hour of the program?
Fritzy Seaton
Yeah. Worst weekend College football edition.
Dan Patrick
Right.
Fritzy Seaton
Your options were Clemson, Tennessee, Notre Dame and UCLA. Clemson basically about 35% of that vote. But then there's a two way tie between Notre Dame and UCLA for second.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. When you get blown out and you lose your coach, that's a bad weekend. A small crowd. That's a bad weekend.
Fritzy Seaton
Throwing in Virginia Tech for honorable mention.
Dan Patrick
Feels like that coach is dead man walking.
Paulie Marv
Five years.
Dan Patrick
Yeah. One hour in the books on this Monday. Best and worst of the weekend. More of your phone calls. Also in about 25 minutes from now, we'll talk to the former Steeler head coach, CBS analyst Bill Cower. One hour in the books. Two more to go with Fritzie Seton, Paulie Marv, yours truly, Dan Patrick.
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Episode Date: September 15, 2025
Episode Title: Bengals Fail to Protect Joe Burrow, Tush Push, EJ Manuel
Host: Dan Patrick & "The Danettes"
Guest: EJ Manuel (ESPN, former NFL QB)
In this high-energy first hour, Dan Patrick and his team dive into the sports weekend’s most dramatic stories, led by the Cincinnati Bengals crisis after Joe Burrow’s major injury. The show covers the fallout for the Bengals, NFL storylines (including the infamous Tush Push play and officiating controversy), highlights and upsets in college football, and features an insightful conversation with ESPN’s EJ Manuel. Throughout, Dan maintains the show’s signature blend of analysis, humor, and listener engagement.
[03:25 – 13:16]
“You win a game, but you lose your quarterback…Business 101: protect your investment.” (03:39)
“If you’re a Bengals fan, it's not a question of if Joe Burrow gets hurt—it’s which body part.” (04:27)
[05:25 – 13:16]
[11:10 – 13:16]
“Can we slow down on saying stupid things? …We don’t have it as figured out as we think we do.” (11:40 – 12:50)
[13:16 – 16:53]
“Should the Bengals call the Falcons about Kirk Cousins?” (13:16)
“There’s a market correction every year—some teams surprise, some disappoint.” (14:20)
[17:13 – 17:36]
[24:07 – 29:01 (with extended through 29:51)]
Memorable Moment:
Tennessee loss called in real time:
“The kick is no good... What the heck happened there?” (25:28-25:49)
UCLA’s problems analyzed:
“How dare you be into education.” (28:33)
[31:32 – 41:41]
“Imagine if there’s a really pretty girl in class…and she doesn’t say anything to you [after a bad game]. That’s what it is.” (35:02-35:29)
“He is…on time. Right now for Arch, it's about building confidence.” (36:43-37:58)
Dan Patrick [On Joe Burrow/Bengals]:
"You don't hand out these contracts without protecting those who are making that kind of money." (04:20)
Dan Patrick [On “Tush Push”]:
“When Dean Blandino said that, I thought, there is the out. The NFL can say, we can’t officiate this play.” (08:20)
Dan Patrick [On QB Hype/Hot Takes]:
“If Arch Manning wasn’t Arch Manning, we wouldn’t even be talking about him.” (11:58)
EJ Manuel [On campus after a bad game]:
"It’s one of those just where, you know, you have to wear it for the next six days until you get a chance to play again." (35:02-35:29)
EJ Manuel [On Development of Young QBs]:
“For young quarterbacks, there has to be a plan set in place… to show me that you’ve had this amount of growth in this amount of time.” (39:43-40:47)
Polls:
Fan Calls:
This episode captures why The Dan Patrick Show is a cornerstone of sports talk radio: sharp, unsparing football analysis; authentic, relatable interviews (especially with ex-players like EJ Manuel); and an ongoing conversation with its dedicated listeners. The segment on Joe Burrow's injury not only assessed its impact on the Bengals but also wove in broader truths about team management and NFL culture—all with plenty of laughs and memorable moments to keep fans hooked.
Notable Quote to close:
“We got it all figured out. We do NOT have it figured out as much as we think we do. We don’t.” – Dan Patrick (13:05)
End of Hour 1 Summary