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Jonas Knox
You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome to the Dan Patrick Show.
LaVar Arrington
I love Dan Patrick.
Jonas Knox
Oh, my God. Home to the biggest guest in best sports talk on radio.
LaVar Arrington
I love it. One of my favorites.
Jonas Knox
Normally home to Dan Patrick.
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Hope you'll miss us, but today Dan.
Jonas Knox
And the Danettes are off.
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Jonas Knox
And filling in, it's Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and Lavar Arrington.
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Jonas Knox
It's good broadcasting from the Mercedes man cave. This is the Dan Patrick Show. And away we go. Dan Patrick here, Fox Sports Radio. He's Levar Arrington. I'm Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys. You know, you can find this show as always on the iHeartRadio app and you can always find us on hundreds of affiliates all across the country. And Levar Arrington, happy Black Friday to you and yours.
LaVar Arrington
Thank you. It's very black Friday for me. Yeah, every Friday's black.
Jonas Knox
By the way, remind me to Friday for me to dust off my yearly Rob Parker joke where I just tee him up and I'll send him a tweet and I'll say, happy Black Friday, Rob.
LaVar Arrington
Every Friday is Black Friday for me.
Jonas Knox
But we are off and running here.
LaVar Arrington
Can I get them deals? Well, show me your black card, please.
Jonas Knox
Look at him.
LaVar Arrington
Look at him flaunting that black card all around here.
Jonas Knox
So how was the, how was the Turkey Day holiday? Did you dive into some bird?
LaVar Arrington
I did. I did. Twice. We did it earlier in the week because we would be running around, chasing around, watching my daughter sit the bench for Oregon and, and then, then we're going to turn back around and have some leftovers with Madman on The Bench on Saturday. So this has just been a. It's just been a. It's been a bench tour for me.
Dan Patrick Show Producer/Announcer
But.
LaVar Arrington
But it's all about the support. It's not about the playing town. It's about the support. So, yeah, so there's that. In between the traveling, we've done the Thanksgiving meal so that we could kind of all sit down. Man came in from. From State college last night for a few hours to get some food and get some family time. So that was pretty cool. It was cool. It's been a good holiday. What about yourself?
Jonas Knox
Well, yeah, we just, you know, hung out with the in laws, kind of, you know, just stuffed our face a little bit and. And that was that.
LaVar Arrington
What y' all eat? What was on the menu?
Jonas Knox
You know.
LaVar Arrington
Did y' all jump in the bird?
Jonas Knox
Yeah, we did the bird. Did some ham.
LaVar Arrington
Did I say, did y' all do some pig? Did you already answered it?
Jonas Knox
Yeah.
LaVar Arrington
Ham is pig, isn't it?
Jonas Knox
Yeah. I mean, but, you know, it's a little bit. I think you were trying to maybe say that.
LaVar Arrington
What are you trying to say?
Jonas Knox
Like an actual pig sitting on the table that we've got to, like, you know, like, sift through, like. No, no, that' every other day of the year. Mexican culture, they do it different, you know, from time to time.
LaVar Arrington
But I know. I know the Italians don't make it through all of the, you know, all of the. The courses of meals before they get to the turkey, and then they're full before the turkey. Not my words as Dean Blandino saying that. So. Yeah, I don't know. I just figured you would say that. Plow through too many tamales or something.
Jonas Knox
The food is fantast. The food was fantastic. But I. I was shocked because it did feel like a home game. I'm looking around going, where's the. Where's the salsa?
LaVar Arrington
Like a home game.
Jonas Knox
What's the. Hey, is there a. Where's the tortilla maker? That thing's always minutes.
LaVar Arrington
Mac and cheese. Wait a gosh darn minute.
Jonas Knox
Wait a.
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Dan Patrick Show Producer/Announcer
Wait.
Jonas Knox
And you guys. You guys call it Mac and cheese, too. Damn. All these years.
LaVar Arrington
No, you didn't. Right there. No, you did not.
Jonas Knox
I appreciate it. Hey, on behalf of my family to yours.
Dan Patrick Show Producer/Announcer
So.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, it felt like. It felt, you know, growing up sweet. But it is tamale season, so that'll. That'll start.
LaVar Arrington
It is upon us.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, it'll start. It'll. They'll start throwing it down here pretty quick, so. So there is that. Hey, I was thinking about Something. Watching the. The game just starting, you know, backwards from the last game to the early game. I'm watching the. The Bengals and the Ravens. And something occurred to me.
LaVar Arrington
What was it?
Jonas Knox
You and I on Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, which you can hear before the Dan Patrick show weekday mornings here on Fox Sports Radio. You and I, we both had the Ravens going to the Super Bowl. And it occurred to me last night, watching that game, they kind of stink. They're really not. They're just not very good.
LaVar Arrington
They're not good anymore.
Jonas Knox
What happened?
LaVar Arrington
I don't know. I mean, we just talked about there shouldn't be enough defense in the world for. For Cincy to be able to win in Baltimore against that offense. Not enough defense in the world, let alone Cincinnati, to go in there and do it. There you go.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, it's just.
LaVar Arrington
It's the. It's the Joe Burrow effect, though. Like, he's like everybody's kryptonite, you know, sort of this and.
Jonas Knox
And the thing. And. Look, I don't know that Joe Burrow. Look, obviously it doesn't help their defense, and that's really been the problem for Cincinnati, as we've laid out on our show, that Joe Flacco's played well. Like, it wasn't like he was struggling.
LaVar Arrington
While he was in there, but he's not Joe Burrow. Yeah, it's the Joe Burrow impact. The effect.
Jonas Knox
Okay, so that's a really.
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LaVar Arrington
Yes. That's a real thing. Okay, let me ask you this. If you were. If you were going into a game with, I don't know, just say it's a really good ball player that's backing up Kobe Bryant or a really, really good ball player that's backing up Michael Jordan. And you go into the game knowing that MJ or Kobe is out of the game, do you feel the same way? Do you have the same type of confidence level that you would if. And maybe you don't know this. I don't know. Maybe you got to be an athlete to know. But you can. You can assume, right? You can assume. You can assume what?
Jonas Knox
Why'd you. Ryan Clark me? Why do I gotta be Trager? Damn. But point taken.
LaVar Arrington
Here's the point.
Jonas Knox
Point taken.
LaVar Arrington
But here's the point, right? All seriousness, you're going to have more confidence when you have your best player on. On the field, and especially at the main position. If you have your guy at his position. They know Joe Burrow as the guy that took them to the Super Bowl. They know Joe Burrow is the guy that should be a league mvp, probably last year, if not for, you know, the heroics of, you know, other guys, which, I mean, it is what it is, all right? But that. That does have a positive, profound impact on the rest of your team when you have the guy like, you know, let's back Lat's back, like, you know what I mean, You. It definitely does have an impact, and clearly that's a thing because they lose games. They what? They've only won one game without Joe Burrow. When Joe Burrow's out, they've won, like one game. One or two games. I believe it's one. So, I mean, it. It's a real thing.
Dan Patrick Show Producer/Announcer
And.
Jonas Knox
And that was.
LaVar Arrington
I believe it is.
Jonas Knox
And that was one of the storylines going into the year for Zach Taylor and them was the starts to the season, because that's. That had always been an issue. They would get off to these poor starts. Their record in September was awful. And then it'd be scrambling in this mad dash to try and make the post season like they were last year. And that's why they've missed a couple of years in a row that. In his health. And so this year, well, we're going to have him play in the preseason. We're going to make sure we come in, and there's not a lot of rust. They come in, they start off the year two, and you're thinking, all right, well, at least the plan worked. And then he gets hurt. And then they just went in this downward spiral. Joe Burrow, after the game, talked about his return last night in Baltimore.
LaVar Arrington
Had to knock some rust off there in the first half.
Jonas Knox
So I expect myself to play better, but it was great to be back out there. I was, you know, a lot of emotions running through it at the end of the game. So it's just good to be back with the guys. You know, anytime you can get a big win like this, it's. It's exciting. And guys work really hard for this. You know, we are where we're at, our record, but guys work really hard to go out and put on good performances on Sunday. So when you're able to.
LaVar Arrington
To do that, it feels good.
Jonas Knox
I mean, they would need some things to fall their way, but it's a.
LaVar Arrington
Lot of pressure on them to try to get in there. I mean, but think about it. If they. If they went out, they get in. That's a lot of pressure. But at the end of the day, I don't. I know you're going to go into like scenarios like what needs to play out for them to be able to make the playoffs. Just win, just win, just keep winning. There's enough games left that if they just keep winning, if they go on a tear and take over the second half of the season, which is very, very possible. Right. This Bengals team has so much time, talent on it. They didn't even have Jamar in this game. Like, think about that. Yeah, didn't even have him. And they still go out there and serve up an ass whipping and didn't even have their, their main receiver. So you get, you get Hendrickson back. I'm assuming he'll come back and, and, and continue to be healthy. You, you, you'll get your, you'll get some elements of your defense as a better defense moving forward. You'll have your, your weapons on offense. They might take over the second half of this season and could be a team to beat heading into the postseason. They could very well storm back just based around the idea that, that the Steelers will give away a game. The Ravens, they're giving away games. I mean, I don't know if we call it give it away. I don't. Again, they don't look like they're a very good team. And the Steelers, I know they, they play without Aaron Rodgers, but the Steelers, if Aaron Rodgers injury can't, you know, get rectified to the point of where he's comfortable, I don't know how that all works out with his, you know how that works. But this is not the same team without, without Aaron Rodgers. And I don't know how good they are down the stretch, honestly, if their running game isn't, isn't up to standard of what a Steeler running game should be heading down the stretch. So it aligns for Cincinnati to be able to not only climb back into it, but they could take it over and win it. They could win the AFC north because it's not a very competitive, strong AFC north this year.
Jonas Knox
Yeah. And I mean they've got a couple of division games left. They've got Baltimore again and then they've got the Browns. They're three in one of the division. They've got the best record in the division. So it's, look, it's a long shot. But if they do go on this run, because they're at Buffalo coming up next week and we've seen, look. Yeah, the Bills have not looked.
LaVar Arrington
Yeah, they're not the same.
Jonas Knox
So if, if they were to go on this run and let's just say, you know, for hypothetically speaking, they get into the postseason there, that's a problem, because that's a team with, you know, and we'll get into the Kansas City conversation as well, but that's a team who gets into the AFC playoffs, and all of a sudden, I. I think they've got the best quarterback in the.
LaVar Arrington
Playoffs and receiving tandem.
Dan Patrick Show Producer/Announcer
Yeah.
LaVar Arrington
Outside of Dallas, which I know we're going to get into that. Outside of Dallas, who has a better, more loaded receiving core?
Jonas Knox
Nobody.
LaVar Arrington
Nobody.
Dan Patrick Show Producer/Announcer
Nobody.
LaVar Arrington
So, I mean, they could potentially, like I said, if they catch fire this second half of the season and they stay healthy and, you know, they have. They've had enough things not go their way. They have a few things go their way, this Cincinnati team becomes a. A real interesting prospect, a real interesting horse. Do you put your money moving down the stretch of who's going to finish out? They have. They have the ability, they have the experience. They have the understanding of how good they can be because they've made it to the super bowl. So. And they are one of the teams that have proven that that Kansas City kind of before now, that that unbeatable, that unpenetrable Kansas City team there, they can be beat. That was Cincinnati. That was proving that.
Jonas Knox
Yeah.
LaVar Arrington
So to me, it's an interesting conversation because they can get on a run. It was confirmed that Joe Burrow can make the difference in how this team carries out a game plan. Whether he plays defense or not doesn't matter. It's the impact and the energy of knowing that you have your guy back. And all we got to do is step our level of play up, and we step our level up, then it's going to go up for the rest of us as well. And Joe's going to do what he needs to do, and that's exactly what you saw happen in this Ravens game.
Jonas Knox
Now, the Ravens conversation is a separate one because Baltimore look trash. Yeah, there's something off. John Harbaugh, the head coach of the Baltimore Ravens, was asked about potentially maybe health being an issue for Lamar Jackson and had this to say. I just think you try to do the best you can from play to.
LaVar Arrington
Play and game to game to execute and make plays.
Jonas Knox
Fully healthy.
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LaVar Arrington
Yeah, he's fully healthy to play.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, absolutely. So that's more like. Yeah, we're just trying to get through it. You know, he's. He's always on the injury report. There's always something that pops up. They just don't look good, man. And. And if we're being fair about the situation, like the Joe Burrow's been out for a significant amount of time. The conversation about the defense is one thing. We're now two thirds of the season in. You kind of are what you are at this point, right? As the great Pete Prisco would say, you are what you are. And Baltimore's just. They look like a mediocre football team, and I know they've been on a little bit of a run lately, but last night was alarming. They were a seven point favorite at home on a short week against.
LaVar Arrington
We took them, too, didn't we?
Jonas Knox
I think I might have taken Cincinnati, I think.
LaVar Arrington
Did you really?
Jonas Knox
Yeah, I got to look into that. But, I mean, it was a lot of points. I thought, well, you know, listen, I'll, I'll. I'll ride the momentum of Joe Burrow, but I, I mean, I didn't think it was going to look like that.
LaVar Arrington
Did you? Moneyline Ben, The Bengals?
Jonas Knox
I don't know. Probably not, if I'm being honest. Probably not.
LaVar Arrington
I just. I just were where we're at right now in the season. I am so fed up with people disappointing the idea that, that the good teams get better and the bad teams are very wildly inconsistent. I thought we would see a wildly inconsistent game from the Bengals and we would see a Baltimore Ravens team continue to apply themselves and, and, and bring a level of play that says they're getting themselves into form for what's taking place. The. The interview points that you hear from Harbaugh, the things that you see take place with, with this team, the surrounding them is largely, in part, they are a very inconsistent football team. That's not the type of team that can ride that, any type of momentum into a postseason aspiration to try to win a Super Bowl. That's what the Baltimore Ravens are right now. Why are they, this team? It's very perplexing. I don't know. I don't know who has the answer for it. But the question to me becomes, where is Harbaugh as a coach in his tenure with this group? If this is all you can get as a result from your team? I think it raises a lot of red flags if I'm moving forward in terms of what is. Has. We keep asking the question about the Buffalo Bills. Have they hit their ceiling every single week? Have they hit their ceiling? Have they hit their ceiling? I gotta ask the question. Have. Have the Baltimore Ravens hit their ceiling? That's gotta be the number one question coming out of that game yesterday, because there's really no apparent reason as to why you could come to a strong, positive conclusion that the Cincinnati Bengals would have a decisive, dominant victory over the Baltimore Ravens. In Baltimore, if you didn't seem like.
Jonas Knox
If you would have told me that a Cincinnati went in there and they squeaked one out on a, on a field goal late. Evan McPherson hit a, you know, 50 plus yard field goal and they win that game. Oh, man, you know, big. But it's like, hey, but you made the point earlier. That was a beating last night.
LaVar Arrington
That was a beating, that game.
Jonas Knox
Like, they, like Cincinnati fed them their ass on national television for everybody to watch. And it looked like a shell of what the Ravens were last year. The. Like, Lamar's not looked that bad in a long time and it just turning the ball over. No answers. They just, they stopped running the it, which you've got all that. I know this. And there's been injuries and there's been all this stuff and key players have been out on defense for their. I get all that. But you still do have Lamar Jackson like you. You still do have talent there. It's not like. It's not like you were down your number one wide receiver like the Bengals were, and that game wasn't close. Like, if, if Cincinnati converts, you know, instead of kicking field goals, if they, you know, convert a couple of more touchdowns and Joe Burrow isn't working through the rust, who the hell knows what that game looks like? Like, that was, that was an ugly performance. And yeah, I do wonder at what point, because, you know, it's the same thing about Mike Tomlin. It's the same thing about, you know, Sean McDermott. It's like, man, there's been a lot of success there, but it hasn't quite gotten to super bowl yet. Like, it hasn't quite gotten to, hey, well, you know, they lost in a Super bowl and you're not hearing any of that stuff about, you know, Andy Reid, you're not hearing. But for some reason, the Ravens don't look the same, the Bills don't look. It just something's off there, man. And I just wonder with Lamar's mobility and the way his style of play, you know, when do we start having the discussion, has he peaked as well, too? Because he's taken a lot of damage. He's been out there and those hits add up. And I'm just wondering if we're at the point in his career where the athletic ability can't carry him the way maybe it did in previous years. I don't want to overreact, but that did not look good. And this season hasn't looked good for that team.
LaVar Arrington
I don't know that you could call it an overreaction at this point to have criticisms towards any aspect of. Of the Ravens team or their game. Right now, I don't think anything is off limits. Maybe Hamlin, maybe that might be it. But otherwise, I think they're. They're all. What?
Jonas Knox
Nothing.
LaVar Arrington
What? What?
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Jonas Knox
Nothing. You know, we're just having, you know, just having conversations about the Ravens, that's all, you know?
LaVar Arrington
Oh, I don't know. This feels like a setup.
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Jonas Knox
It's not. It's not a setup.
LaVar Arrington
What is it? I mean, I was just wondering why you snicker like.
Jonas Knox
No, I just was wondering if maybe there's.
Dan Patrick Show Producer/Announcer
There's.
Jonas Knox
There's something else going on there, you know, like maybe, you know, maybe, you know, Justin Tucker put some sort of a hex on the team. I'm just saying, you know, like one of those neon light hexes, like, hey, you're going to come after me. I'm just. I'm just. I'm asking the question. I'm trying to get some answers here, and I got to know what's going on there in Baltimore. That's all.
LaVar Arrington
So you're saying he has to cleanse the facility of this possibly happening on the road at the facility? I mean, you know, it's possible.
Jonas Knox
Yeah.
LaVar Arrington
I just, you know, I would know. I got an extensive background on people being inappropriate in locker rooms, you know.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, you do. Yeah, you do.
LaVar Arrington
I didn't know.
Dan Patrick Show Producer/Announcer
But.
Jonas Knox
Yeah.
LaVar Arrington
No, I didn't know. Don't. Don't text me up after the show. So you knew? No, I didn't know.
Dan Patrick Show Producer/Announcer
I was.
LaVar Arrington
I was totally unaware, just so we're clear on that.
Jonas Knox
But, yeah, it's. They have not looked good all year, and so I. I don't. I know there's still the overwhelming favor to win that division just because somebody's got to win that division, but I. I don't know.
LaVar Arrington
It's the inconsistencies for me, man. Like, they're all inconsistent. Every last one of them are inconsistent. There's no way to put a tag on any of those AFC teams. No way. Like, I'm curious to see what. What Shador does on Sunday, because even the Browns are in the conversation. That's crazy. All four teams are in the conversation as poorly as they have done. They're. They. They could all be in the conversation. Maybe the Browns don't make the playoffs based on where they're at, but they can make a run for it. And, and imagine what that conversation is if they go on a tear with Shadora at, at quarterback. So now Stefanski may save his job. Boom, here you go. You go into an offseason with the momentum of what Shador Sanders has done as your starting quarterback. You got, you got one of the best defensive ends might break the record. He's on, he's on record watch for most sacks in the season. And Miles Garrett, you have pieces now. You, you instead of going for a quarterback with that top pick, go after a receiver, go after a couple receivers in your draft, go after some offensive linemen that can be like anchor offensive lineman for the future of, of your team. Go for those aspects. And now you have a lot of excitement building around the Cleveland Browns. You look at Cincinnati. Cincinnati, all they need to do is address their defense. That's all they need to do. And now they're, they're right on their way. The, the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Balt Ravens may have the biggest questions surrounding them moving into the future out of any of the other teams in the AFC north, and they're the ones on top of the AFC north, which is very interesting because how much time do they have? How much do you have? How much time do you have in Pittsburgh before you really see what, what this roster really truly is? How much time do you have in Baltimore before you see what this roster really truly is? How much time do you have?
Jonas Knox
And, and also, look, if you're cincinnat like, you know last night, you're out there dealing and Joe Burrows working off rust and T. Higgins is out with the concussion and all that. Like, you get him back. Joe Burrow's got a game under his belt. Like I'm telling you, he's the best quarterback in the division in my mind. And it's not close like at this, he's the best quarterback in the division. Especially with Lamar's health and all that. If they, like if he's got his full complement. I know it's, I know it's 13 to 1 on DraftKings for them to win the division. I just, I'm looking at it going, maybe it is possible. I don't know. Maybe it is possible. And then that being said, they could come out, they get their full complement of, of of weapons around Joe Burrow and they get annihilated next week. I don't know. I mean, it's just, it's one of those things. It's inconsistent as hell, but it's the AFC North So there's a. I think.
LaVar Arrington
It makes it, I think it makes it very interesting moving into, moving into where we're going because it is. They are, they have been such amazing teams, such amazing franchises for, for the National Football League, for the afc. They've built the reputation of the AFC North. I mean, all these teams have built the reputation of the AFC north, but the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Ravens have been the gold standard of the division and they've been a gold standard for the National Football League as well. It's interesting to see where these teams, if that, that legacy, if that tradition that they've built through the years, the decision makers that are in play now because there are different, different decision makers at the GM's positions that aren't historically a part of the successes of this, these teams, these franchises, can they write the ships? Can they get these teams going in the right directions? And how, how, how much time is it going to take for them to be able to do. Seemed as though Pittsburgh may have pulled a fast one on us. They got out to the type of start that would make you consider that the steps that they took this offseason weren't worth looking at and, and criticizing. I know I was very critical. It looked as though they got off to a different type of start. But you know, to me now, I don't know, man. I don't know about the Pittsburgh Steelers and I don't know about the Baltimore Ravens and, and I don't know that there's any indicator other than saying for Baltimore you have Lamar Jackson, but you asked a question that's a very legitimate question. Has he hit his ceiling?
Jonas Knox
I just, yeah, I, I don't, I, I don't know, man. There's, there's something off there. There's something off with all of them. But it's fun. You know, it, it is fun to discuss the, the AFC North. It is two pros and a cup of Joe in for the Dan Patrick show here on Fox. It's Laar Arrington and Jonas Knox in for DP and the guys. We are going to take you all the way up until noon Eastern Time, 9 o' clock Pacific. We'll have another edition of in case you missed it. That's a usual on our show. We've got the leftovers. Albert Breer is going to stop by as well too. We're going to get into the news and notes. Big weekend for AB you're going to find out why it's a big weekend for Albert Brier coming up an hour too all of it is yours here on this three hour extravaganza. Up next though, apparently somebody had a plan in the NFL. The plan was laughed at and mocked by many people. But they might have been right. Find out who they are here on fsr.
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It's a Dan Patrick show here. Fox Sports Radio. Levar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys. We'll be doing something that we do on two pros and a Cup of Joe, which you can hear weekday mornings before the Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio called. In case you missed it, that will be yours coming up here in about 15 minutes from now. But right now it is time for the tire rack play of the day. Nate Prescott back slant caught by pick and spins away from the defender first down, heads to the right side, sprints down the sideline, hurdles a man all the way down inside the 10 to the 6. There you are George. You were hiding and you come out to play Cowboys Radio Network on the call that is your tire rack Play of the day. For over 40 years, Tire Rack's been helping customers find the right tires for how, what and where they drive. Shipped fast and free, backed by free road hazard protection with convenient installation options like mobile tire installation. Tirerack.com the way tire buying should be. So you'd mentioned wide receiver duos in the NFL. We didn't get to see the full compliment yesterday of Jamar Chase and T. Higgins with Higgins out with a concussion. But we did get to see George Pickens. Yeah. Who was quiet, as they point out in the call for most of the game. CD Lamb.
LaVar Arrington
That was warriors reference, Right. I mean, did you catch that?
Jonas Knox
Warriors. Him and Dallas.
LaVar Arrington
Oh, they came out and played.
Jonas Knox
They're not.
LaVar Arrington
Dallas came out and played.
Jonas Knox
Now they're not bad, man. I, I know.
LaVar Arrington
Two big wins in a row.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, it's. Tony Romo sifted through whatever that performance was he gave yesterday.
LaVar Arrington
Tony Romo, I mean, he's a homer.
Jonas Knox
He was.
Dan Patrick Show Producer/Announcer
He did.
LaVar Arrington
He's an all the way homer. He. He did.
Jonas Knox
He did point out it was probably something he stole from Jim Nance's notes, but he did point out yesterday that the Cowboys, in the span of four days, beat the last two teams that were in the Super Bowl. Yeah, I mean, it, look, it's something and I don't know if it results in a playoff spot. I don't know if it results in, in Dallas making, you know, making a run at this thing a la potentially Cincinnati. But the defense looks better and they've slowly gotten better and better throughout the course of the year. And the offense has been, you know, clicking for majority of the season. I mean, Dak Prescott's been fantastic and, and Dallas with another big win. Another big win. Who needs Micah Parsons? You know what I mean?
Dan Patrick Show Producer/Announcer
Like.
LaVar Arrington
Well, Micah Parsons is doing what he needs to do where he's at as well, by the way. But that doesn't mean that one has to be untrue, you know, or one has to be. Yeah, right. One has to be untrue for the other to be true. You know what I mean? Like, Micah is what Micah is and they see the impact of that in, in, you know, Green Bay, but you can see the impact of what decisions have been made for, for the Dallas Cowboys. They wanted to shore up the center of their defense and they did. So it's a, it's a very, very stout interior defensive line for, for Dallas. They feel like they can get, get away with it with, with, you know, veterans like Clowney on the outside. It's worked there's balance there. They're. They're getting solid play from the secondary. And like we mentioned, Dak Prescott is playing at an MVP level this year. They don't have the type of running game that. That would say they should have the type of success or balance as a total offense, which they've usually led with the run, but they were able to run. They. They got a nice touchdown run out of. I forget the. The back's name, but Tall back, fast back. They had a nice run from him out of the. But they have largely, in part, been able to cut people up with their passing game. And Pickens and CD Lamb are. That's. That's his. That, to me, that is the best receiver tandem in all of football. And it's amazing that. That Pittsburgh would get rid of him based off of. I get it. Whatever it is that that was going on there, they. They didn't want to deal with it. They unloaded it. I get it. But a DK Metcalf. Pickens is the best wide receiver tandem in the National Football League. I'm wondering what is the common denominator here. Pickens is now in, In Dallas. Dallas has the best receiving core in all of the National Football League. You would have had that in Pittsburgh if you have Pickens with. With. Who am I talking about? With dk DK Metcalf.
Jonas Knox
Well, I think. I don't know if they were going to be able to make both, both. Both of those work. I mean, they could financially, but I think that, you know, Pickens had kind of run its. Run its course there.
LaVar Arrington
How.
Jonas Knox
Look, that's a fair question. This might be. This might be the one receiver that got away from the Steelers where you're like, man, maybe should have held on to him. Like, they've got a history of knowing when to turn the page on receivers. And maybe George Pickens is, you know, in a contract year, so he's looking at this as an opportunity to get paid and then he goes back to his old ways. But he's awesome, man. Like, he's, like, he's been awesome for the Dallas Cowboys.
LaVar Arrington
If we're being honest here. Like. Like, here's a very real moment, okay? He. I know the. Because he's a draft pick to them, and the emotional connection to CD Lamb. You'll say CD Lamb is the main guy. I would challenge you today and say that the main receiver, the most dangerous weapon on that team is Pickens. It's Pickens, then it's CD Lamb. And I'm not trying to Turn this into a thing. I'm just telling you, your, your most dangerous weapon on that team right now is George Pickens.
Jonas Knox
Yeah, he's got the CD Lambs, the more consistent receiver, but George Pickens has got some freak to him. Like, there's, like, he. Like that. Well, that play that. I don't mean like that. That play that, That he made where. That we listened to, where he hurdled over the. Like, I thought he was going to take that to the house, and I don't. Look, CD Lamb's a great wide receiver. He's one of the better wide receivers in the league. But George Pickens does some things each game, and he was doing. Look, he did that in Pittsburgh, where he would do things in a game where he'd make a grab and you go, how many guys in the league can do that? And then two plays later, you know, he's getting in a fight. Like, it's just. But he's that, like, he's the perfect Cowboys wide receiver, George Pickens, like, he's, he's perfect for that team.
LaVar Arrington
I, I think he. You. Here's the interesting thing, right? George Pickens in Pittsburgh, he. You hear reports come out of the locker room. You, you hear little things said by the head coach about, you know, conduct, how, how he needs to take steps forward as a person or whatever it is that was being said. You hear former players that, that weighed in and commented on George Pickens, and, you know, dude is a malcontent. This, that and other. I haven't heard one single thing after all. And, and, and mind you, Dallas has no problem trying to create these storylines because they did it to Michael Parsons. So let's not act as though it can't be. It can't be the environment that you're in. Sometimes more so than the player may be. It makes me wonder, is the environment. Was the environment toxic for Micah Parsons for them to be talking about Micah Parsons? Was the environment toxic for George Pickens to be talked about and handled the way he was being handled in Pittsburgh? It doesn't mean that you can't go to another place and be accepted and, and received in a different way, in a different manner? In which where you came from doesn't mean that it's a organization, doesn't mean that Dallas is bad, even though their record and their. You know what? It would say that maybe they're not great, but with Pittsburgh, you're not going to say, okay, this is a bad organization. They got it wrong with George Pickens. But there could be the possibility that they did not get it right with George Pickens, whatever it may have been. There could have been something that was resolved. There could have been some way to, to, to talk through it in the end, end, in the end they are pros and it's about production and that man was productive in Pittsburgh and now he's super productive in Dallas and you've not, you've not heard a word about, about George Pickens in Dallas in terms of him being cancerous in the locker room, him not being about football, him being a malcontent. And the same goes for the guy that departs started Dallas. You haven't heard anything out of any, anybody or, or any types of reports. And Green Bay with Michael Parsons. So sometimes it's just a matter of having a new environment and having a fresh start and, and that's what they did. But I tell you what you made, you got upset for, for Cleveland trading Joe, Joe Flacco to, to Cincinnati. You should be upset that you gave George Pickens away to any other team that had a number one receiver of the caliber Lamb. Damn. That's what you should have been upset with. Why you give, why you give Dallas George Pickens and they have CD Lamb and they're going to have both of those guys on the same team. I know it's on the other side of the division but God dang, who cares. You might have to deal with them because of how good those two are together on the football field.
Jonas Knox
It is the Dan Patrick show here on fox Sports Radio. LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys. Up next we are going to have another edition of in case you miss it. It's something we do on our Monday through Friday show which you can hear before Dan Patrick show. And in that we're going to tell you about the level of concern there is for one quarterback in the NFL from a teammate. That's yours. Next.
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Dan Patrick show here. Fox Sports Radio. Lavar Arrington, Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys coming up top of next hour, a little over 10 minutes from now. Somebody made a bold move a couple of weeks back in the NFL and there's some people calling that into question. We will get into that for you here on FSR. By the way, with the iHeartRadio app, you can stream us wherever you happen to be. Catch us in all of our Fox sports radio shows live 24. 7 in the new and improved iHeartradio app. Search FOX Sports Radio on the app to stream us live all day, every day. And be sure to select Fox Sports Radio as one of your presets in the iHeart app. So it will always pop up at the top of your screen. And for that, we turn it over to our executive producer, the one and only Rowdy Ian Roddy, to find out what the hell's going on.
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Ian.
Jonas Knox
Good morning, guys. How we doing? We are good. I hope you guys had a good Thanksgiving.
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Yeah, thanks.
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Back at you, buddy.
Jonas Knox
But let's start with this. In case you missed it. Justin Jefferson was asked about the Vikings backup quarterback. Max Brosmer is set to start this week in place of J.J. mcCarthy. He said, quote, he's definitely a good QB to be able to fit in with this offense and create a spark for us. That's something we really need right now.
Dan Patrick Show Producer/Announcer
Now.
Jonas Knox
So a little bit of a indirect jab@jj McCarthy. What do you think? Guys, I was being honest.
LaVar Arrington
I mean, dang, I mean, that's kind of the only way to, to interpret it, right? They need a spark.
Jonas Knox
You know, it'd been great if Justin Jefferson, they would have said, hey, so what's the, what's your favorite thing about Max Brosmer? It's like, oh, that he's not J.J. mcCarthy.
LaVar Arrington
That might have been funniest thing that could have been funny just to see.
Jonas Knox
Because, man, the J.J. mcCarthy thing, that is not going well.
LaVar Arrington
Where do you go after that?
Jonas Knox
I Don't as a team.
LaVar Arrington
If you. If you want your players comes out, says that where do you go next? Where do you. Where do we go from here?
Jonas Knox
You know, the other thing that I think gets lost in all of it is because people point out, man, you decided to move on from Sam Darnold and you decided to move on from Darnold, and what did Sam Darnold do since he's gotten to Seattle? They also decided to move on from Daniel Jones, too. Like that. He was also there. Like he. He signed with Minnesota, so it just. It is not gone well.
Dan Patrick Show Producer/Announcer
I mean, it.
Jonas Knox
It's pretty early, but he just hasn't been available. Also, like, he hasn't been able to stay healthy, and now he's out again with a concussion. So. Yeah, it's wild, man.
LaVar Arrington
Oh, wow.
Jonas Knox
Riverside.
LaVar Arrington
Riverside.
Jonas Knox
Yeah. And it's like, well, Max Brosmer is the one that you're saying creates a spark over McCarthy. That's. That's correct. That is correct. Anyway, next up, Ryan Day. He's pulling an interesting move ahead of Ohio State's rivalry game versus Michigan here. He's decided to have his team fly to Ann Arbor for the game as opposed to take the bus as they've historically done for the matchup. Day said the Buckeyes fly to their other road game.
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Jonas Knox
That's what it is. Yeah.
LaVar Arrington
And he knows reaching.
Jonas Knox
He knows they've done the past four years hasn't worked. So he's trying to make some adjustments here.
LaVar Arrington
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Jonas Knox
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Jonas Knox
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LaVar Arrington
She's still around. That's. I mean, that's more looking at your. Your, you know, your Toro cards try.
Jonas Knox
Anything at this point.
LaVar Arrington
I mean, I guess. I guess. Aman. I tell you what happened in the future for you. No, no good things ahead of you. It's.
Jonas Knox
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LaVar Arrington
I don't. I don't know. What. What. What accent that was Jonas. I didn't catch that one.
Jonas Knox
Oh.
LaVar Arrington
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Jonas Knox
What if that wasn't.
LaVar Arrington
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Date: November 28, 2025
Hosts: Jonas Knox & LaVar Arrington (in for Dan Patrick and the Danettes)
Podcast: iHeartPodcasts & Dan Patrick Podcast Network
In this special Black Friday edition, Jonas Knox and LaVar Arrington fill in for Dan Patrick and the Danettes to break down the major talking points from the NFL’s busy holiday slate. The focus: the impact of Joe Burrow’s return for the Cincinnati Bengals, the continued struggles of the Baltimore Ravens, and the rising prominence of Cowboys receiver George Pickens. The pair deliver banter, bold takes, and pointed analysis on the state of the AFC North, receiver tandems, and rumors swirling around key NFL teams.
In this lively, well-informed fill-in hour, Jonas Knox and LaVar Arrington dissect the big swing in AFC North fortunes, highlighting the irreplaceable value of elite quarterbacks, growing doubts around legacy coaches, and how changes in environment can allow NFL stars like George Pickens to thrive. Their blend of humor, directness, and inside knowledge provides a fresh take—while keeping listeners locked in on the drama and unpredictability of the 2025 NFL season.