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Ebony K. Williams
This is an iHeart podcast.
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Greg Rosenthal
Who are the 25 greatest football players to grace the gridiron since the year 2000? Introducing NFL Daily's top 25 players of the last 25 years. Join me, Greg Rosenthal and an all star cast of media personalities including Mina Kimes, Steve Wych, Kevin Harlan and more for a look at football's best since the turn of the century. Listen to NFL Daily's top 25 players of the last 25 years starting on June 30 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Ebony K. Williams
Welcome to Pretty Private with ebony, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm Ebony and every Tuesday I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast Network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
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Dani Shapiro
Your entire identity has been fabricated. Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace. You discover the depths of your mother's illness. I'm Dani Shapiro and these are just a few of the powerful stories I'll be mining on our upcoming 12th season of Family Secrets. We continue to be moved and inspired by our guests and their courageously told stories. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Dan Patrick
Check out behind the Flow, a podcast documentary series following the launch of San Diego Football Club. San Diego. Coming to MLS is gonna be a game changer because this region is been hungry for a men's professional soccer team. We need to embrace this community. Listen to San Diego FC behind the Flow on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Ebony K. Williams
Summer's here and with the kids home and off to camp, it's easy for moms to get lost in the shuffle on Good Moms Bad Choices. We're making space to center ourselves with joy, rest and pleasure. Take the kids to camp. You know what? It was expensive, but I was also thinking, you have my kid. This is kind of priceless. Take her, feed her. Make core memories. I don't have to do anything. Main thing, I don't have to do anything to hear this and more. Listen to Good Mom's Bad Choices from Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcast.
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Dan Patrick
You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. We did it. We Made it to a Friday. Yes, it is a meet Friday. Have to wait till lunch to have a meet Friday according to Seton. But welcome in if you're watching on Peacock. Thank you, our streaming partner. Beautiful setup that we have here. Thanks again to Peacock, the folks at NBC and American Century Golf Championship. It's a beautiful setting. The golf tournament starts today. We'll talk to Charles Barkley here in about 15 minutes. We'll talk to the great comedian Nate Borgetzi, Alex Caruso of the world champion Oklahoma City Thunder, and the always sunny in Philadelphia, Rob McElhenny. He's also co owner of Wrexham. He will stop by as well. 877-3-DP show email address dp dan patrick.com Twitter handle @DP Show I said that it was a meat Friday. And we have pulled pork, we have brisket, we have barbecue. Who has it better than we do?
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Nobody.
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All righty. Gang's all here. While Fritzi is in London. Fritz, he's going to call in a little bit later on because he should take a victory lap for what happened on Celebrity Family Feud. He closed it out. In fact, here is the final this is the fast money segment at the end of Celebrity Family Feud last night starring Fritzi.
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25 seconds on the clock, please. When someone asks how many fingers am I holding up? How many are they holding up?
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3.
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Tell me one thing you know about Dwayne the Rock Johnson. He's very muscular. Name something women wish men could surprise them with. Roses. Try again. Jewelry. Name a US City with a lot of professional sports teams. Los Angeles. Name a kind of berry you'd find in a bowl of mixed berries. Strawberries.
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Yep. We closed out the Rich Eisen show. We already had the 200 points there. We didn't even need the last question there for Fritzi. But it was a lot of fun. A lot of fun and a lot of people watching that. And Marvin and, and Fritzi, I thought did a great job. It was all about content. I said, if we lose Celebrity Family Feud, let's win the content battle. And we did both. We won both there. All right, we have a poll question, play of the day, stat of the day, all of that forthcoming. I mentioned the guest list and it is the first day of the tournament summer league. Did watch a little bit of that with Cooper Flag, Bronny James. And you know, there's a lot of report cards that'll come in on Cooper Flag. And I look at this and sometimes I overreact to the summer league and probably will with Cooper flag. He shot 21 times. I think he, he might have had one game at Duke where he took more than 21 shots in a game. I was surprised at the volume. But what I look for is where are those shots? I don't think he's a three point shooter yet, but he's 18 years of age. I mean, Vince Carter didn't become one until what, year 15. Jason Kidd became a pretty good, reliable three point shooter. LeBron, it took him a while. Brooks Lopez took him a while to become a good three point shooting big man. So it's going to take a little while for Cooper Flag, obviously, but he was getting his shot. But he gave me intangibles. He gave me offense, defense, gave me a passing, he gave me rebounding, but he also gave me court presence. That's what I'm looking for. He's 18. You run around guys who aren't going to make the roster or if they do, they're not going to play very much. But I wanted to see how they featured him. And this will be pretty probably what I zero in on with the summer league with Cooper Flag. And that's going to be do they try to use him as a point guard? He's 6, 8 and I think Jason Kidd wants him to play some point guard for this team. You're not going to have Kyrie Irving and they got d' Angelo Russell waiting for Kyrie to come back. But I, I think they're going to try to have Cooper Flag get a little run there at point and you know, he'll work on his shot. I don't like his shot right now. Takes him a little while to get that shot off and he'll learn quickly that you better create some space if you're going to try to get that shot off. But watching last night, it was fun, man. It's summer league basketball and Bronnie James, Bronnie had the game in his hands. He wanted to take that last shot there and didn't connect. And that's what Cooper Flag said. Hey, I didn't shoot well, but we won. And really that was, that's the goal every single night that we play. All right, Seaton, what's the poll question, by the way? Good morning once again, if you're watching on Peacock and if you haven't downloaded the app, please do so. Charles Barkley will join us in a little bit. And we say good morning to our radio affiliates around the country. IHeartRadio Fox Sports Radio Stat of the day is always brought to you by Panini America the official trading cards of the program and the first hour, brought to you by the great folks at Mako. And I'm sure your car could use a little tlc. That's what Mako does. Affordable paint jobs like collision repairs. Get a free estimate today. Oh, better get Mako. All right, Se.
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Todd Fritz
Well, Todd sent over a funny one from London.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah.
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Todd Fritz
Would you rather get cheers as an athlete or laughs as a comic?
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Dan Patrick
Laughs as a comic. Because if you've ever been in a room when you don't get laughs as a comic.
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Todd Fritz
Oh, yeah. Having a joke not land is a terrible feeling.
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Dan Patrick
Yes. Like, if I don't get cheered, if I'm doing something athletic, okay. I'm all right. Because there's going to be a part of the crowd that's not going to root for you. If you go into a concert hall and you're a comedian, they're there to laugh at you with you. You go to a sporting event, and they're going to be people who aren't rooting for you or your team. But there's nothing like landing a joke.
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Todd Fritz
Oh, that's the best. Making people laugh is one of the best things you could do.
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Dan Patrick
And that's what Fritzi. He gets addicted to that. And once again, if you. If you have a laugh and you hear that laugh and you hear that crowd, that, to me, it replaces what a crowd can do. Now, if you're getting a standing ovation as an athlete, you know, or the entire. You know, everybody's raucous yelling and screaming, that's one thing. But when you land a joke and you're there with 15,000 people, that's pretty good. Yes.
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Todd Fritz
Like Cooper flag. Like, to your point, he had a dunk last night, and the place went absolutely crazy.
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Dan Patrick
Yeah. Yeah.
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Todd Fritz
That's gotta feel damn good. Especially because I know it's summer league, but you're a kid. I mean, he's a kid, and he's just getting in there, and you have a moment like that.
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Dan Patrick
Hell, yeah, dude. Yeah. And. And it's also what he did to get that standing ovation. So if you have, you know, a highlight dunk and people go crazy, that's one thing. But, you know, if you hit a layup at the buzzer and people go crazy, I mean, it's a layup at the buzzer. He had a dunk. It was a highlight last night. Yes, Paulie.
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Paul Pabst
It is so similar, though. When you whiff on a joke, it's like you feel like you're exposed. Go back to celebrity Family Feud. I was watching last night and you set Fritzi up to imitate Steve Harvey. That's a gutsy move. And Fritz, he has no blinders.
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Dan Patrick
And he did it and he hit it.
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Paul Pabst
And Steve Harvey goes, all right. And he, he goes, I respect the effort. You also had a joke. I don't want to give away everything if you haven't seen it, but you had a joke where your answer was. But it was a real answer, but it was your wife and the whole place loved it. And you got a really great reaction out of it. When you get a reaction, it's like you're emboldened.
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Dan Patrick
Oh, yeah. Because there were some jokes. Now, once again, they, they. We probably shot an hour's worth for a half hour show. And really, it's a 22 minute show. They chop up a lot of things there. But, you know, just the behind the scenes, being there, doing it, going out on stage. Once we put our name tags, it was weird. Once I put my name tag on, I'm like, oh, boy, this is real. And then we had to talk to. There were a couple ladies who were teaching us, telling us about what you're allowed to do. The executive producers. Hey, you can do this. Can't do this. So we're all gathered, you know, behind some curtain. So it's Rich Eisen show and then ours, and they're going over all the rules, do's and don'ts, and I'm going, oh, my God, don't screw this up. And then all of a sudden, like, like I was. Once I saw that you guys were confident, then I was fine. It was. I just. And I think Marvin, when he says Aquaman, as what kind of superhero would you be in the bedroom? That was when I was like, if, if this hits, then we're going to win this thing. And it did. Because I thought, Aquaman. Who's Aquaman in the bedroom? Unless you're Jason Momoa. Well, okay, But Aquaman is nice. I don't know. That's not the superhero I would expect in the bedroom. But you said Aquaman and. And it hit. And then I went, we'll win this thing. It was just weird. Weird confidence there going into it. Maybe I didn't have as much confidence, but I thought we did. We handled it pretty well. Yes.
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Todd Fritz
Well, that's the thing. Like when you're doing a show like that, it, it's a lot. It's a real hurry up and wait kind of thing where you're waiting around all day. Maybe it's waiting to hurry up, but you're waiting around all day to, like, go do this. And then they're like, all right, guys, come on, we're going to walk you through the rules. And then, like, all right, we're going to go up on the set. And all of a sudden, you get up on the set, you walk from behind. You get up there, and there's lights, there's a crowd, there's a hype man dancing. Come on, everybody, let's go. And you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa. What the hell? We're doing this show. It was very. It came at you really fast. And they got your name tag on, they got a mic. They're like, okay, Steve is going to come out. I'm like, what? I thought we were going to do, like, a run through or something. We got to do this right now.
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Dan Patrick
Well, actually said, all right, like, come on up here. We'll do a rehearsal question. And I screwed up hitting the buzzer. And then I. I got scolded. Like, you're not allowed to lift your hand. I go, okay. And. And I did that. And then, you know, I came up there for the first one. It was like, you know, superhero. And I went, Superman. And then we were off to the races. Yeah, Paul.
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Todd Fritz
Yeah.
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Paul Pabst
I think the first round of the superhero one we actually lost. Eisen's team stole it. And it's like, there's no timeout. We're producers. We control the timing of the show. We were at their beck and call. And when it's coming down to you and you see Steve walking down to you, unlike other sports shows like Sports Jeopardy, you choose when to get in. You have no choice. Seat and I were sitting there on one, and I can't remember the category, and we're whispering like ventriloquist under us. And Seaton goes, you got anything? I'm like, I'm blanking, man. I'm blanking. And the woman holds up, stop talking. Stop talking.
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Todd Fritz
Yeah.
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Paul Pabst
We weren't allowed to collaborate.
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Dan Patrick
I know. I tried to do that with Marvin because I knew it was going to come back to me. And then it was Marvin. After that, I said, you got. You got anything for me? And Marvin goes, yeah, I'll have something. But he had it for himself, not me.
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No, no. I mouthed it, and you just kind of looked and like, I don't have any dollars.
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Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to like, Marvin, you got anything for me?
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And it's funny, we won in a dominating fashion, but it's the ones that you don't get that were that are killing you.
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Right? I. Yes, we win. And then I have friends who. Former friends now, but they're sending me text messages making fun of the last question I got in the fast money. It was like berries you put in a cereal bowl. And I don't hear Steve, and. And, you know, we were all there, and I go, God, I didn't hear him. And you can even see me, you know, when he's asking that. And I lean in because I go. I don't. I didn't hear what he said. So I got. My friends are saying, strawberries, blueberries, berry bonds, you know, So I said, okay, all right, everybody's an expert. Let me see you in those hot lights there. Yes, right.
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Todd Fritz
And that's the other thing that you don't get is when you're watching the show, it comes at you really fast. So we're doing this superhero one in the bedroom.
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Dan Patrick
Right.
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Todd Fritz
I think most of our first answers landed. I think. Or at least a few of them did. Right where those were easy. But then all of a sudden, there's seven answers, and six of them are taken. And your group is still going. You're like, man. All right, so a whole bunch. We've probably guessed nine answers already. Two of them were wrong. Six of them. Or, you know, whatever. And you're like, who's the last one? That's the one that sticks with me, actually, is the answer was Thor. And it's like, oh, of course it was Thor, damn it. But when you're up there and. And Steve is working his way down the line, and you're like, I just need one answer. Who the hell is it? You're like, I don't know. Is there a guy named, like, awesome Lover Man?
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Dan Patrick
I don't know.
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I don't know what it is. I have no idea. Awesome Lover Man.
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Todd Fritz
I want to be awesome Lover Man. I don't know.
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Dan Patrick
And Rich Eisen had a great line because he said thor. And then Steve say, why Thor? And it goes, because I bring the hammer. Yeah, that's. That's perfect. That was. That was their great line.
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Todd Fritz
Yeah.
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Dan Patrick
Because they didn't give a lot of air time. I said, let's take it and not give it back to them and let them watch us dominate.
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Todd Fritz
I thought when we gave them the superhero one, I was like, oh, crap, this is it. This is how we lose.
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Dan Patrick
All right, we'll take a break. Charles Barkley joins us next year at Lake Tahoe. Back after this, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app.
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Dan Patrick
We are live at Lake Tahoe American Century Celebrity Golf Championship getting underway today. Peacock NBC Golf Channel. You can go to danpatrick.com click on the toy box link to follow along. Got tons of content there, games, interviews, poll questions, etc. A couple of phone calls, then we'll get to Charles Barkley Hunter in West Virginia. Hi Hunter. What's on your mind? Good morning Dan.
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Been a hot minute.
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I decided to take a little bit.
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Of time away after all that terrible.
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Stat of the day. I will. I'll let the pros do that from here on. But I wanted to call in and.
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I wanted to congratulate you guys on.
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The win last night. I know the Boys and Girls Club of Milford are going to put that $25,000 to good use. Congratulations. And if Fritz, he doesn't get the MVD as a result of his performance and gas money.
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Oh, boy.
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But anyway, no, he's won fat. He won that before with most valuable and least valuable. But thanks for the phone call, and I'm sure Fritzy will probably win both awards this year. Charles Barkley joined us yesterday. We were waiting. You know, usually what happens is we. Once the show is over, we kind of stay here on our set. And then we wait till the golfers get done with their round or they're done with, you know, being on the practice range. And all of a sudden, we looked over, and here was Charles Barkley coming up. And he greeted me by saying, dan, you're a coward.
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Dan, why don't you play in this tournament? Oh, you. I guess you injured this year, Dan, this is the best week of the year.
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I would play if I could play with you, because I know that I would beat you then.
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You can't beat me now.
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You had the worst odds to win this thing.
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I don't even understand that.
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I do.
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No, I don't even understand that, because last year I came in 58th. So how do they have. That's 30 more people. How can they have me dead last if I beat 30 some people last year? Am I right?
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I'm betting on you to better your score from last year.
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Well, they got me top 65, right?
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Yeah.
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I'm gonna beat that.
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I'm going under.
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Me, too.
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Yeah. How much you gonna bet on yourself?
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Well, last year I had. I want to bet $500,000.
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And did you?
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So, no, this true story. I placed a bet, and then they tell me I can't do it. They say it's illegal for me to bet on myself. I said, which is total bs, I might add. I guess they knew I was gonna win. But they told me it's illegal for you to bet on yourself. I'm like, if I bet myself to lose, that would be illegal.
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But boxers get to bet on themselves.
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I don't know. I think they were just full of crap. To be honest with you, Dan, I.
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Would have placed the bet for you.
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I would like you to do that. But, yeah, they told me it was illegal, which I didn't understand.
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Okay, so you can give me 500,000.
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Yes.
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And I can bet on you?
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Yes. Let's see if they'll take that this year.
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And do I get a finder's fee or do I get.
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Did you put any money in? No, you didn't put any money in. So if I lose. So you got to find Unfound fee?
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No. What's the number one question, basketball wise, that you'll get out here?
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I have not. I just got in last night. I have not been asked any basketball question yet, to be honest with you. I have not been asked one basketball question. I've only did probably two quick interviews. Nothing, just the most formal one I've done. But I have not been asked one basketball question. But the answer, your question was the number one question I'm probably going to be asked is how close are the Rockets to the Thunder and who's going to be favored in the East? Which are two very good questions because I don't know because basketball is not played on paper. It's played in the gym and I have no idea who the favorite in the East. Did the Rockets get better? Probably. Are they as good as Oklahoma City? I don't know. But the question with the East, I'd have to do some serious thinking because I like the Miles Turner going with Giannis. The Knicks are going to be solid. I like what Orlando did. Atlanta had a great offseason, they did pretty well. But all that stuff is just window dressing. When the basketball starts in October, that's when it starts. Everything looks great on paper.
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Deandre Ayton going to the Lakers does that. What's that solve?
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They got bigger. They got bigger. But their best second best player is going to be 41, 42 years old. Can he stay healthy? Is Luka going to be in shape? Are they better than the Rockets? Are they better than Oklahoma City? Are they better than Denver? Those are great questions. I don't just because, because Aiden, his track, I gotta go by his track record and it's not a good track record. Did they. They needed a big guy. But are they better in Oklahoma City, Houston or Denver? I would not say so, no.
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Do you think you know more about football than you do basketball?
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I admire football more than I do basketball. It takes a tremendous amount of courage to play football. I played for one day and I realized I was a puss. I was like, damn, they really are hidden out here.
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But you, you were a big guy in high school.
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I wasn't that big. I grew from 510 to 6 5, but I was like 510 when I played football that one day. But even now, to go out on a football field, you can cheat in basketball. You don't have to play defense. You can be a one way offensive player. You know you can cheat. You cannot cheat in football. If you step on that football field, it's kind of the Same thing with boxing. The reason football and boxing are my two favorite sports, it takes tremendous courage. You cannot step on a football field if you're not all in. You're going to have to quit. I mean, it's just dangerous. Same thing with boxing. You can't cheat football and boxing. You can cheat in some other sports, but in football and boxing you have to be all in.
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I think best athletes are hockey players to do it on the ice. Well, with sticks. They get to hit you with the sticks.
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Well, I would love to beat the hell out of some people and only get, and only get punished for two minutes. Can you imagine that? You get to knock the hell out of somebody and only get punished for two minutes. That would be a, that'd be like a dream come true.
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Okay, how many players would you, looking back, like to have that I, I get to beat you up And I am only out two minutes for roughing.
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Bill Lambert, ML Carr, Popeye Jones. Because Popeye Jones, the one player who dominated me every time I played against him, I would love to just knock the hell out of him for two minutes.
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But when you see Lambert, you're good, we're good.
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Yo, dude, all that stuff should be good. Dude, we 60 year old. If you're 60 years old and still fighting, you're a punk. Anybody who's still fighting is 60. Anybody who's fighting past 25 is a punk. Like, if you're a grown person, you know, you, you dumb, young and dumb and stupid. You get in a fight every now and then. But once you're a grown person, you shouldn't be fighting anybody. Fighting once you pass 30 is just a loser. You see these videos where people out here fighting, you say to yourself, what a damn fool, what an idiot.
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Where would you be if you didn't play basketball?
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Wow, that's a great question. I believe my work ethic would make me successful, but I don't know because I've never did anything but basketball. But I believe my work ethic in basketball helped me be successful because you got to have more than talent to be successful. But I probably would be like a regular worker like in a factory somewhere because nobody's going to ever has gone say, I didn't work hard, but I wasn't going to be overly smart. I'm not going to tell that lie, but I think I would have been successful at something. Probably better been factory related.
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But okay. When do you get that personality? When do you realize you have personality? When, when, when can you entertain? When can you make people Laugh.
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Well, that should be easy.
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But you were in high school, you in college.
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No, not. It didn't happen till I got to the NBA. Once I realized I'd made it. See your life, happiness should be dictated by how good your life is. Like Dan, anybody who plays sports should be the happiest person in the world. You think about it, we get paid a gazillion dollars to do something that's stupid. Think about it. And I'm not saying that to be humbled ever. Like I was sitting there when I first started making my. Like these people paying me millions of dollars to dribble a stupid ass basketball. They're paying me millions of dollars to wear shoes. I should always be in a good mood and I really live my life. People said man, you always in a good mood. I said why would not be in a good mood? Like every NBA player to be like man, these people are paying me millions of dollars to dribble a stupid ball. Like my first contract was four years, $2 million. I was number five pick in the draft. That guy today is probably going to get a four year deal for 30, 40 million. He should be happy from day one. Yeah, I was happy from day one.
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So my song where Devin Booker got two year extension. He's going to get over $70 million a year.
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He should be the happiest person. He should go around. He should just go around shaking people hands.
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Yeah, but he plays for the Suns. How happy can he be?
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Well, he gonna be happy twice a day, twice a month. The 1st and the 15th. Hey, the 1st and the 15th. He gonna be real damn happy. You know, God bless these guys for how much money they make. I made more money than Dr. J and Bill Russell, those guys. But these guys should all be in a good mood.
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Dan.
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I mean think about Devin Booker, who's a hell of a player. Going to make $70 million to dribble a stupid basketball. Why shouldn't he be in a good mood? He's the luckiest dude in the world. I mean all these dudes I saw, chad Holcomb got 200 some million. Shay just got 300 million. Why wouldn't you be in a good mood? You work six, seven months a year, you get two, three hundred dollars a day per diem. You stay at the risk cost in the four seasons. You work a couple hours a day, four days a week. What you not happy about?
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Keep in that good mood. We'll continue with Charles Barkley right after this.
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Dan Patrick
We'll try to get to some more phone calls here. Coming up, 877 3DP show operator Tyler sitting by. Take your phone calls. We spent some time yesterday with Charles Barkley. We gave you part one. Then we went to commercial break and we promised part two. And I started out by asking Charles Barkley how easy it was to get in trouble on the road when he was playing.
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It's very easy to get in trouble. You got drugs, you got alcohol, you got women troubles. Troubles always there. Trouble you have to go on the road to get in trouble is at home, too.
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But who helps you navigate that when you get to the NBA?
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Because you nobody helps you navigate. You got to surround yourself. First thing you got to do is get rid of your family and friends because they're the biggest freeloaders and they'll never tell you no. They'll use up all your money, too, and they won't tell you no. You got to surround yourself with a few people who, number one, will tell you no, tell you how to invest your money, how to save your money. Tell you, hey, you had too much to drink. I don't think we should be doing this. Pot, cocaine, all these drugs. That's the hardest thing, surrounding yourself with people because we these kids got the same stuff. They just got more of it and they got more money. But there's women, there's alcohol, there's drugs, there's that's everywhere, whether you're at home or on the road. And sometimes they can all get you in trouble. If you don't control them and they are readily available, depending on how much money you got.
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Well, how did you not get in trouble?
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Well, I've done stupid things. I never got into the drug thing.
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But you'd smoke pot before?
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Yeah, five times. I don't understand. You know, my friends keep trying to get me to smoke pot. I smoke pot, like, five times. It just make me want potato chips. It doesn't do anything for me, Dan. And my friends love it. And I say, oh, y' all can do it. I'm just not gonna do it. But pot does nothing for me. I just don't understand it. I've only. Like I said, I think I've done it maybe four, five times at the most. And they're like, you got to try this, this whatever. And I'm like, yeah, where the lay's potato chips and Pringles at? But I've never gotten involved with drugs. I probably did some stupid stuff with women for sure. But, man, it's there if you want it.
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But also, when you. When you think about it, if you go to a team, a bad team or a team, that. That's the culture.
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Yeah, but every guy's not involved in the culture. Like, there's guys. What guys? On teams I bet on, they like to do drugs. You don't have to hang out with those guys. But in bottom line, you got to make your own decisions. I chose not to do drugs. I didn't judge other guys who did drugs. That's them. There's guys. I probably drank too much because I like to drink. But I think the biggest thing you need to be a great player is have a good coaching staff. That's probably the most important thing, the coaching staff. I think more players get ruined by bad coaching staffs because the coaches are cowards. They're scared to coach. Like, I wanted a Pat Riley. I had a great coach, Billy Cunningham, a Greg Popovich, like. But most of these coaches today, they're cowards because the players make so much money. They don't have money control. The players run the team. And the coach needs to realize that player gonna get him fired. But we have taken the power from the coaches away because the players make so much money. But I say bad coaches have ruined more players than anything in the NBA.
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I was wondering this question, if this would be asked on LeBron's podcast, and tell me how you would interpret this. Let's say Steve Nash says to Kevin Durant and LeBron is there, and he says, do you think you're better than LeBron? Do you think it's a fair question to ask KD and what do you think Katie would say?
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Well, I think all questions are fair. You have a right to answer them. I think, Katie, his answer should be yes. You got to always think you, you can't be a great player if you think other players are betting you they gonna have to prove they're better than you. Do I think Katie is as good as Brun? I do not. Because I don't think you have his leadership qualities. But that's a fair question. But I can't answer. Should be yes.
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But did you think you were better than Bird?
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Yes. Yes.
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Did you think you're better than Jordan?
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Yes.
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Was there anybody you didn't think you were better than?
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Dan, let me tell you this, and I've talked about this publicly before. I did not think Michael Jordan was better than me until he beat me in the finals. Because when I got. When I was in Philly, we actually had success against them. And then they got good and then they beat us in the playoffs one year. But I thought it was just because he had some better players around him. When I got traded to Phoenix, I says, chuck Daly had told me, he says, you're the second best player in the world. I says, I'm the best player in the world. He says, no, that guy right over there is the best player in the world. I said, well, I'm gonna prove it to your ass this year when we play them in the finals. He says, chuck says, I didn't realize how great you were except getting to watch you play every day, how easy the game is for you. You can play with anybody. This is doing the Dream Team practice. And I said, I said, chuck, I'm the best player in the world. I'm gonna prove it to you. I said, we're gonna play the Bulls in the finals. And I remember telling the guys that going in training camp, I said, we're gonna play the Bulls in the finals. How you know that? I said, because I'm the best damn player in the world and I'm gonna prove it. I said, we're gonna play the Bulls and I'm gonna prove I'm the best player in the world. And I remember going home after game two. My daughter was upset, crying because we lost the first two games. I says, hey, just relax. We're gonna be fine. I said, but I gotta tell you something. I never said this in my life. I think that guy might be better at basketball than I am. And I said, but I think I'm better and we'll be fine. Then we win game three, lose game four, win game five, come back home for game six. And my daughter, I says, I told you, I think I'm the best player in the world. I'm gonna prove it. Then they beat us. I remember telling her, I says, I never said to see you before that guy's better at basketball than me. And that's the first time I'd ever. Because it's a team game. But once I got Dan Marlin, Kevin Johnson, I said, we can beat anybody, we can beat anybody. But yeah, I thought Michael Jordan was a better player than me. That's the only player I ever played against, I thought was better than me. Magic, Magic had James Worthy and Kareem. And Magic is great. You know, we owe all our success in the NBA to Larry Bird and Magic Johnson. They're the two most important people in NBA history. They're the reason NBA makes some money today. Obviously Michael took it to a whole nother level, but it wasn't for Matthew Johnson. Larry Bird, the NBA wouldn't be what it was today, plain and simple.
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What if Bird doesn't injure his back?
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Hoisted one of the greatest players ever. I mean, you know, is this a.
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What was it, a 10 year career?
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I think it was more than that. But you have to factor in though, man, the physicality of the game. We all had to go to college for three and four years. You know, these guys, number one, bless these guys, they make a deal how long they play. Number one, they never went to college. And also there's no physicality. You have to factor in. These guys played. I played three years of college. I think Bird played four years of college. Michael played three years of college. Tim Duncan played four years of college. David Robinson played four years of college. So the guys talk about, well, these guys, like I say, and listen, it's a different game now because no physicality. But you have to factor in all the years some of these guys lost going to college. I think Bird went to college. I mean, he went to two or three schools I remember correct. Before he went to Indiana State because. But so, but Bird, man, he was amazing.
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Feels like there's all. There's probably more stories about Bird that are told than any other player because.
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He was the best trash talker ever, you know, so. So Leon Wood was one of my teammates. And we're sitting in a locker room getting ready for the three point shooting contest and I was kind of just talking to Leon, trying to calm him down and good. All these three point shooters in there. Bird comes in and says, which one of you gonna come in second place? Like, which one of you gonna come in second place?
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So first words through the door, which.
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One of you gonna come in second place? Dan.
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It was over.
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I'm sitting around. Nobody said nothing. It was one of the best scenes I've ever like. I'm looking around. I'm not in the contest, so I can't say anything. Nobody said a word. And I says, man, I wish we had casinos we could bet on Khalil Bird gonna win this three point shooting contest. Cause nobody said a thing. I mean, I was like, this thing is over. This is a wrap.
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Did Larry and Dr. J ever talk about that fight that they had?
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So I'm still mad that the NBA found me.
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Yeah, you were holding.
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I wasn't. See, See, I grabbed him to break it up. I didn't know Doc was punching him. I just remember Burke, Chuck, y' all better get this old man off me.
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Wait, he's Saying that about Dr. J?
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Yeah. Oh, Chuck killing him, too. Yo, man, y' all better get this old man off me. He says this five, six, seven times. Doc is grinding now, trying to stop him. He and Bird rolling. I'm gonna kill this old man if y' all don't get him off me. And next thing I know, Doc just snaps, and I just grab Bird. And I'm still mad. I'm telling you, NBA fined me for holding. I said, first of all, I would never hold somebody unless somebody I didn't know. I just tried to break it up. I didn't know Doc was punching him. But, man, after he said about the fifth or sixth time about get this old man off, maybe Doc just snapped.
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So Larry's taking it to Dr. Jack.
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This. This might be Doc's last year. It was one of his last couple years. It may have been his last year. And Bird just killing him and talking trash the whole time. And, boy, Doc just snapped.
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Did they ever talk about this?
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No, not. No, that's not to talk about.
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I don't know if Larry would ever say, you know what? No, I'm sorry. I shouldn't have, man. I know. But there's Dr. J. He's royalty.
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Let me tell you something.
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Treat him.
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No, let me tell you something. Let me tell you something about the Sickers and the Celtics. My first experience. So, you know, these old vets, Doc, Bobby Jones, Reese Cheeks, Moses, they don't care about the preseason. It's just like basically a glorified scrimmage. So we play, like, the first four or five games we go to play, the Celtics guys are goofing around the first four or five exhibition games. That's not a sound going on. I pull Andrew Tony aside. I says, is somebody sick or hurt or something? He says, it's the Celtics. And I said, what? He says, it's the Celtics.
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So preseason.
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Preseason. Every time we played the Celtics, it was a different vibe. Anytime we played the Lakers, it was different because Moses was going to try to kill Kareem, because Kareem was the. Moses did that. Moses thought he never got his. Just do it. I don't believe he got it either. But when we played the Celtics, man, regular season, playoffs, it was a different vibe in the building. It was. It was.
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It's great to see you.
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Hey, man, good luck. Hey. I'm proud of you, Dan. You know, your career, to have a career, as long as you've had it, you have to be talented, number one. You have to have a great work ethic, and people have to like you. How many years you been doing this now?
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Probably 40. Almost 40, man.
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You like me, man? You're gonna go your whole life without working? I'm on a six.
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Oh, no. I work. Listen, the guys I'm with. No, I work.
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It's like stealing, Dan.
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This is work.
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It's like stealing.
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Yeah. This isn't exactly your Phoenix Suns team that I've got.
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No, this is my Philadelphia team. The team you wanted out of this. Yeah. Oh, you know, it's so funny. Jimmy Loud and one of my favorite people, one of my Billy cops, my best coach I ever had. Two of my favorites are Rudy Tomjanovich and Jim Lonham. We're playing the Celtics in the playoffs. Us is Jim. Look out there right before a tip off. That's Bird, McHale and Parish. I got Shelton Jones. I'm a new. He says, good luck. I love Jim. Like, every time I see him, he says, good luck.
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Good luck. And I'll leave you with that.
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I'll leave you with that. Hey, guy. Thanks for having me, brother.
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Thank you, man.
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All right.
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Thank you, Charles. He's great. He gave us, you know, half hour of his time. Busy day. Pulled in a lot of different directions. But I do love that, you know, when people say he forced his way out of Philadelphia to Phoenix, well, look at who he had. He had his front line didn't exactly match up with the Boston Celtics there with Bird, mchale and Parrish. And even when Charles finished the conversation, the interview, he's still telling us that story as he's walking off our stage here. And he's like, damn, if they had bird, McHale and Parrish, I had Minute and Shelton. Shelton Jones. I went, wait, Shelton Jones? He went to St. John's he's like, yeah, that's Shelton Jones. Yeah.
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Marvin Shelton Jones played one year in the NBA in the, in the 1988 season for the Philadelphia 76ers.
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Yeah, but he was there with Charles against Bird, McHale and Parrish. Even that conversation where he's talking about bird trash talking Dr. J. And this is late in Doc's career and Larry's, you know, tearing him up. And that's when he kept saying to Charles he was talking about Dr. J. And then Dr. J had had enough, grabs Bird by the throat and Charles grabs Larry. Not realizing that Dr. J is pounding Larry, I was like, oh, my God. Alex Caruso of the Oklahoma City Thunder will stop by and the great comedian Nate Borgetzi will join us as well. Yes, I got a big problem with.
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Todd Fritz
The way Larry Bird treated Dr. J. I do, too. I got a big problem with that.
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Dan Patrick
But that's what I was saying to Charles. I mean, calling him an old man. I mean, I understand Larry that, you know, with trash talking, that's Dr. J.
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Todd Fritz
I feel like the the entire Sex Sixers team should have punched Larry Bird in the face. Not just Dr. J. Everybody should have punched him in the face. You don't talk to him like that. The hell's wrong with you?
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Dan Patrick
One hour in the books on this meat Friday beautiful day in Lake Tahoe. Rob McElhaney, the actor from Always Sunny and co owner of Wrexham in an hour from now. But up next, we'll talk to the OKC Thunder guard Alex Caruso and the comedian Nate Bargetzzzi. Hope you'll stay with us. Hour 2 Dan and the Danite Stan Patrick Show.
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