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Hour 1 – Dan Patrick Stood Up by the WNBA, Kevin Frazier vs. Alexei Lalas, Peter Jacobsen
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Here, oversharing is encouraged. Listen to suite 305 with Lele Pons on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. It'll be a busy show. Peter Jacobson, he'll be on the call for NBC. And Peacock Pete, former PGA Tour player, really a great ambassador to the sport. He'll be joining us, Steve Young playing in the event he'll stop by the CEO of American Century, very funny guy, Jonathan Thomas. Nate Bargazi, he is a very funny guy. And Austin Reeves of the Lakers will stop by as well. We say good morning to those watching on Peacock. Thank you. Download the app if you haven't done so. And we say good morning to our radio affiliates around the country, over 400 cities that carry this award nominated program. My starting lineup, we have from Southern Illinois, Polly Pabst. Marvin Prince from Connecticut holding on to that Husky love every. Anybody who might have gone to Connecticut, passed through Connecticut, knows somebody who played at Connecticut. Marvin is their best friend. Todd is there from nyu. Dylan from Denver University as well, and yours truly from the University of Dayton. We don't have any honors, do we? Has anybody gotten a honorary degree? Yes, Paulie, No, But I did go to college for five and a half years. Okay. So I am the smartest. I like you have more education, total amount of classes taken. Okay. Todd, you graduated with honors, didn't you? I graduated salutatorian and junior high school and high school. But an average student at nyu. Oh, well, that's when you discovered girls. I discovered girls and lived at home. They didn't discover you? No, I was, I checked them out from afar. I was a shy type. Dylan, did you graduate with honors? I'd like you to guess, Dan. I would say no, you're correct. And Marvin, what about you honors there at Connecticut? You said it was really easy at Connecticut. It was easier than high school. It was. Well, because I did work. Oh, you did do okay. All right. Well, that's our starting lineup here. We somehow cobble this together and give you a program every day, Monday through Friday. We have a poll question coming up. We have a stat of the day brought to you by Panini America. Got a great guest list here as well. And first hour brought to you by tirerack.com For 40 years they've been helping people, Todd, find the right tires for how and what and where they drive ship fast and free, backed by free road hazard protection. Convenient installation options like mobile tire installation. Tirerack.com the way tire buying should be. All right, poll question today. And operator Tyler sitting by. He'll take your phone calls today as well. World Cup France beats Morocco. You have Spain and Belgium coming up later on today. There's a couple of things that I want to talk about up front. Kevin Frazier from Entertainment Tonight joined us yesterday and this was a surprise because I've known Kevin Frazier a long, long time SportsCenter anchor. He also worked at Fox Sports, and he, of course, has been at Entertainment Tonight for a long time. So Kevin, who has a son who plays soccer, competitive soccer, he's a younger player. I think he's maybe 10 years of age, but he was calling out Alexi Lawless. Now, I had no ide that Kevin Frazier was going to come on the show. Second hour at the end of the show, I look over and I can kind of see somebody, a silhouette of somebody. I. But I don't know who it is. Paulie goes, kevin Frazier's here. Well, I always love seeing Kevin Frazier. Always in a good mood, always having fun. And all of a sudden, he sat down and he had some things to say about Alexi Lawless. Listen, man, we got to stop Alexi Lawless, man. What's going on? What's happening? Alexi, slow down, bro. Slow down. I mean, I've been listening to some of his takes. I thought Terry Henry was going to kill him. Zlatan wanted to take him out at one point, and I was like, wow. And then I've been listening to some of these takes recently. And the way, you know, every four years we lose and we go through this thing where we say, what's the problem with U.S. soccer? And, you know, then he gives his explanation. He's like, oh, the paid for play system works and it's okay. And I'm like, alexi, what are you talking about? You benefited from it like, you know, a kid from the suburbs. But back when us sucked, sucked, sucked in Italy, you were part of the problem. You are part of the problem. Stop talking about U.S. soccer like, you know what you're. You know it. You don't. You are coming in hot today. I was so hot when I read he had a recent tweet about, you know, oh, there's nothing wrong with the system. I was like, shut up, shut up. Isn't it good tv, though? Are they providing good tv? Entertainment tv? I think it's going to be cool until Zlatan gets up and just kicks him at some point, right? It's just. It's crazy. It's crazy. Kevin Frazier from Entertainment tonight. Over 1.6 million views on social media. With that. Yes, Paul. So part of the genesis of that is the other day after USA lost to Belgium and they were discussing the future of USA Soccer. What needs to change? Alexei basically said, nothing needs to change. Our development system is fine. The pay for play, as Seton has mentioned on the show before, that's a lot different. Than other countries. And it's Kevin who's knee deep in this. That's what made him really upset. Yeah. And you know, I get it. You know, Lexi Lawless is a firestarter. That's why Fox has him on there. But when you're going to talk about the system and say the system isn't the problem, it's the players, well, they're all intertwined. And I think that that's the problem. We're not finding the players. And when you have the players, you develop the players, then maybe we can compete on a big level. But I don't. Everybody keeps saying, wow, what a great start. We've had this start for 30 years. It feels like it's the finish that doesn't change. And I think if we're going to continue to be what would be applicable to a mid major in college basketball, that's not good enough for us. But I can't. I don't, you know, with Alexi, he's paid to have opinions. Kevin Frazier doesn't have an outlet on Entertainment Tonight, and he's a big sports fan. And he wanted to explain the problem with U.S. soccer. Problem. Because we don't want it to be the number one sport. We want it to be the most profitable sport. And so what they're doing is they're making money off of kids in the suburbs, but those kids in the city. And I've spent the last 10 years because I got a kid who plays at the highest levels, and the last 10 years I've watched how they really gatekeep and some of these best kids from the city. My son's playing in Beverly Hills. He thinks he's Pele, right? And I'm like, dude, you can't play. So I take him. I take them into the city, in the hood, right? And I'm like, bro, let's go. Let's see what you do. And the guy's like, he can practice with us, but this is a program, it's free, and we have kids who can play. And I mean, they're dicing my son up. And it took him like three to four weeks before he even played a game as a nine year old. And I was like, that's the problem. How. How can you be playing in Southern California and there's no Latino kids? I was like, there's something weird going on. I was like, what's happening? U.S. soccer is gatekeeping and they're keeping all these kids out of the. And the best kids we have, they're not getting through so that's Kevin Frazier, and he makes some really valid points. So I said to Paulie, you know, as journalists, we should reach out to Alexi Lawless. Well, Alexi Lawless actually reached out to us in a social media post. Saying what? Paulie? Yeah. Alexi responded to the Kevin Fraser clip we just played and said, quote, hey, Kev, I'm good, but thanks for your concern. I've constantly said that I'd love soccer to be free for kids, but who should pay for free soccer? Also, do you think those who work in youth soccer are greedy and should make less money? If so, why? Hope you're well and respect your passion. So there is really a disconnect here. And, you know, you can look at the system, the system, like, the better you are, like the, the, the more you pay in the United States. And if you look at the other countries, I mean, they, they signed Messi at age 12 on a bar room nap, a napkin. Like, I mean, he's getting paid ever since then. But look, we gotta find the players. They're here or we need to find them to develop them. And I think that's what Kevin is saying. But Alexei's pushing back by saying, there's really no problem here. Everything is fine. It's not. But I think the reason why so many people responded on social media is we're not used to being a mid major when it comes to sports. Like, we're a, wow, you got in. You know, you're in the play in tournament, in the NCAA tournament. That's not good enough for us. And everybody says the same thing. Look at how many hundreds of millions of people we have. And Belgium has, well, 11. 11 million. They have the size of New York City just about, but their program is better. That's what we have to develop. If we want to take this seriously every single year instead of every four years, then the system has to change. Because if it doesn't change, we're going to be like, hey, we made it to the knockout round. And what happened? We got knocked down. Yeah, Paulie, it's almost like college football. You need a major benefactor, a major booster to do this because you're not going to get government funds. People in America, they don't care that much about soccer that you could get a governmental program to do it to a major level. If, you know, like, if Larry Ellison, the billionaire, if he loves soccer, we'd be all set. If he could fund academies and youth academies and inner city academies. Yeah, but you have these like, img, you have, you have places here that develop basketball players and tennis players. I guess there's academies that they're trying to develop soccer. But that's what's really surprising. And I, look, I appreciate everybody's passion with this, but the passion will dissipate after the World Cup's over. Then we'll move on. We do this with the Olympics. We'll be like, man, I can't believe, you know, we don't dominate in curling. Let's go. We need to be great at curling. Look what we did at basketball. You know, all of a sudden we trot out, you know, college players, and then we lose, and we're like, all right, dammit, let's bring in the pros and we bring in the dream team. And then all of a sudden, we, you know, roughed up people. We need to get Belgium to have their football team against the Seattle Seahawks. And then we get to dominate them and let them know what it feels like. Yes, Dylan. Yeah, well, like, I remember back in the day, the kids that played competitive soccer, they would play their, like, Premier League feeder teams. Like, you'd play for, like, Everton, you know, juniors or whatever. It's like the pipeline already even has you tracking, like, out of the country anyways. Yes, you have to leave the country, it feels like, to be successful. But, you know, Seaton is a big fan. His son played overseas. He's. He's in the middle of all of this. He understands what's going on. And he had some comments with Alexi Lawless as well. I think Seton was siding with Kevin Frazier with this, but it was one of those surprise moments. It was live tv and Kevin, you know, gave the passion, and we wanted to reach out to Alexi Lawless and let him respond as well. All righty. We'll have a poll question the Clippers, Raptors. Kawhi trade is on hold right now. This has been going on for 10 months. I don't know why it's going on for 10 months. It feels like maybe if I have five questions, if you let me in the room and I get to ask five questions, then maybe we could settle this. And as it is right now, Kawhi is not allowed to go to Toronto. It's almost like, let's get him out of the country. Let's send him to Canada, and nobody's going to talk about this. You know, the Clippers are like, yeah, if we get rid of him, maybe we're not in trouble. Well, they're still in trouble. Probably lose draft picks, maybe get fined if. If this Truly happened. But Kawhi, probably not going to be punished, ends up back in Toronto and you're like, okay, sure, let's just move on here. 10 months and I cannot, like, if I'm Adam Silver, you know, this reflects poorly on me as the commissioner. It's 10 months. Are you dodging it? Are you trying to kick the can down the road? That's what's surprising in all of this is Kawhi is probably going, well, I'm not going to get punished by this. Did they, you know, give me money off the books? It certainly seems like that. Well, how long does it take to find that out? Why don't you just hire Pablo Torre and let him go in and, you know, give you his investigative work? Yeah, Paul, there has to be a rule. An NBA season can't be an NBA investigation can't be longer than an NBA season. There has to be a rule. Well, they've already surpassed that. And in case you're wondering, and I know you are, just to give you an idea, Joan of arc, at age 17, she rallied the French army and lifted the siege of Orleans, turning the tide of a hundred years war. And Joan of Arc only needed five months to do that. That's what we need. We need Joan of Arc to be able to lead the investigation here. Yes, Marvin. Joan of Arc couldn't play defense like Hawaii, though she was a very great offensive player. That's right. Yes. More of a shooter. Right. A scorer, not a two way player. By the way, AJ Debanza and Darren Peterson last night going 1, 2 will in the draft and they went head to head. That was a lot of fun. Yes. Dylan, it seems like Kawhi has like the, all the, the investigations waiting to potentially see how if like essentially Ballmer is going to get punished in the Clippers. Kawhi has not even been like mentioned. No. At being culpable at all. They're going to ship him to Canada, who I do believe has extradition with the US So he better be careful. But it seems kind of weird that like he's not at the forefront of it at all. I don't, I don't think they're going to make him pay money back, but I do think the Clippers will be punished somehow here. But Kawhi, Kawhi's like, hey, I don't want to go to the Clippers. What if we give you money off the books? How much? I don't know, 27 million? Suddenly I want to go to the Clippers here. You know, it's like Deshaun Watson. I don't want to go to Cleveland. How about 240 million guaranteed? All right. Okay. I think I could do that. But, yeah, this investigation, this is a long, long time. Ten months. All right. Eight, seven, seven, three DP show. We'll talk to Peter Jacobson. He'll be on the call for the tournament here. Steve Young will stop by. Nate Bargazi, Austin Reeves of the Lakers. So got a busy morning. Oh, by the way, it's a meat Friday. So, Dylan, would you tell me what's on the rec tech grills today? We're having kind of a classic Dan Patrick show barbecue. Dan. We've got a smoked chicken, green chili dip. Okay. Party ribs. Party. That was my nickname in high school. Texas Twinkies was also your nickname in high school. Right. And smoked prime rib. Okay. Who has it better than we do? Nobody. All right, we'll take a break. Also had a uncomfortable situation yesterday with the WNBA and their commissioner. Kathy Engelbert was supposed to be on the show today, but. Well, I'll have to explain it to you what happened yesterday. We're back after this Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to the Dan Patrick show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday morning, 9 to noon Eastern or 6 to 9 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for the Dan Patrick show@foxsportsradio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. Hey, this is Jason McEntire. 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It's lemonade. This is Sweet305. Listen to Sweet305 with Lele Pons as part of my Cultura podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Final tickets for the first time since the draw, it appears almost 1500 tickets are now available directly from FIFA, not resale. Most are priced at $7300. Multiple full sections are available. Wow. FIFA is selling those $7,300. Yes, Dylan, as we've said, notoriously non corrupt organization selling 7, 300 face value tickets. It's not 8,000. No, no, no. Not 7,500. You can get it for the low, low price of $7,300. All right. Yesterday we were hoping to do an interview with Kathy Engelbert. She's the WNBA commissioner. Todd spoke to her a couple of nights ago and we had a pairings party. Todd went up to her. She's been very friendly to the show. Last year at this event was friendly to us. And Todd said, hey, we'd love to have you on. There's a lot of questions. People have not heard answers from the commissioner. And she said yes. So yesterday after the show, we waited almost two hours for her. This was scheduled. She was going to do a meeting in her hotel room, a conference call, and then she was going to join us. So Fritzi, for at least 90 minutes is looking just for an update. We're trying to figure, we're standing by, we're waiting to interview her. They didn't, you know, balk at anything, didn't say, you can't ask anything. And we thought, okay, we're going to be able to finally ask questions about Caitlin Clark, the WNBA expansion. A lot of different things. And we waited and we waited and we waited and then we got word. Todd did that the commissioner said that the WNBA staff, the PR staff said that she is not allowed to do this. They would Prefer that she did not do this. You're the commissioner and you're listening to the PR department, which is fine, but did you check with PR before you said yes to us? We promoted it all day yesterday. Now, look, I know people get busy. People have agendas. The people. Like, it was her opportunity to finally say, hey, you can ask me the tough questions. Okay? I thought this was going to be a good thing for the WNBA because people still want answers here. There's so many people who have an opinion agendas here, and this was a chance to sit down and yes. Would the questions be tough? Yes, yes. And I'm sure that had something to do with it, but she went on a radio station in Kansas City, but from what I was told, she was only going to be asked about expansion. They were not going to be, you know, tough questions. So it's just disappointing. Go back to when the Caitlin Clark incident happened. We reached out to the WNBA all morning long. We needed. Just give us a comment. Does anybody have a comment on this? Is anybody there at the office? We couldn't get a hold of anybody. So Paulie, during the show, is trying to track down somebody so we can at least let the WNBA have their say, have their voice, get out in front of this. We're just trying to be a journalist here. Let's all just trying to ask questions, but don't say yes. And then all of a sudden, somebody probably said, in my opinion, oh, maybe we shouldn't do this. Well, at some point you have to do this. I mean, if you want to be treated as a serious league, then do these. This is what happens. These are tough questions, but this is a fair, fair outlet for you, a fair platform. I will treat you with respect, but when you tell me, and then two hours later with no update, and then we get a, you know, a feeble response like, come on, you don't want to do it. You won't. The commissioner of the NFL does not want to come on this show. I've been doing this for 20 years. There's a reason why he doesn't want to come on. I have no problem if he doesn't want to come on. But if he said to me, hey, I'll come on tomorrow. And then all of a sudden he says, the NFL PR department said I shouldn't do it. Like, and she's 50 yards away. She's hitting practice shots out of the bunker. So that's what's disappointing. We deserve more respect than what she gave us yesterday. We want to cover the WNBA The PR staff, somebody did a disservice to this. That's all. Somebody made the call. But Europe, this is an important league. There's expansion, there's conversation. It's been agenda ized. Everybody has something to say about it. Now you have a chance to answer these questions. Are they uncomfortable? Yes. But when I have Rob Manfred on with baseball, when I have Adam Silver on with the NBA, they know they're getting questions that maybe they don't get anyplace else, but they're going to prepare for it. I wanted Kathy to have that opportunity, and I don't know her, but I wanted to get to know her so I can have an opportunity to ask questions like this. And that was what was disappointing. You don't want to come on the show. Tell me you don't want to come on the show. I have no problem with that. But if you tell me you're coming on and you make us wait two hours, that's a problem. And that says a lot about what's going on, in my opinion, with the wnba. Step up, man up, and let's go. Let's talk. Let's answer questions. Let's have a dialogue, a conversation, and maybe it happens one of these days. Maybe. All right, Steve Young will join us. A little later on. We'll talk to the comedian Nate Bargazzi. Austin Reeves of the Lakers will join us as well. Had a chance to talk to Peter Jacobs. Jacobson yesterday. I've known Jake for about 40 years, and wonderful man, great ambassador for the game. He's going to be on the call here. Former PGA Tour professional. And I brought up. I started my conversation with him. I caddied for him at the par three tournament at the Masters, and it didn't go well at all. And that's where I began my conversation with Peter, reminiscing about caddying for him in Augusta. It feels like yesterday. Yeah. No, it doesn't. Dump my bag out. Okay. You asked me to caddy for you. I think it was 80. I think it was 89. Okay. But that's your mistake. You asked me to caddy for you and I had. You had the double. Like, didn't you have the double that I. Your bag? Double. Double strap. Okay. I only had one strap on. Wait a minute. I got to be careful how I say that. My. The bag had one strap on it. Okay. And I remember I could feel the bag starting to fall, and then the clubs all came out. It was slow motion. It's you, me, Payne Stewart. I think Freddie Couples was with us, and you were serious because that's your living. And you tried to laugh it off. And, man, did I learn a lesson there. That Pete's. Pete's got a great sense of humor, but not when his clubs are on the ground. Well, I was playing with you, first of all. I asked you to caddy for me because I thought you knew what you were doing. Number one. That's. I thought you knew the game. That's your first battery. This gig translated into some knowledge that wasn't there. That's first thing. Second of all, it's the par three, so everybody's having fun. So if I was. If I got mad at you, it was in jest. Except when my. My most favorite gap wedge went into the lake. Then I was pissed. Do you know, we got to the ninth hole, and Payne Stewart handed me his wedge. He said, you think it's so easy? Go ahead. And I go, I didn't say it was easy. He goes, on tv, you guys make it seem like it's so easy. Here's the wedge. And I go, I'm not hitting a wedge. We got up to the green, and then he made me hit a putt. I said, where am I hitting it? He goes, I don't know. And so, you know, it's like a double breaker up and over a hill, and I'm just trying to get it close. And, you know, Payne was always pushing you. Like, he was always going to press a button or something. An interesting personality. Pain was so difficult to get to, like when he first came on tour because he thought he was the best player in the world, and he wasn't. He eventually became one of the best players in the world. But when I. When I learned his dry sense of humor, and he would push the buttons even when we're competing. It could be the US Open, the Masters. It. It doesn't matter. When you did something that he didn't like or he thought was wrong, he would push the button. And I came to appreciate that, and I would push right back. A lot of guys didn't like it. A lot of guys can give, but they can't take it. We learn that real quickly when you're playing with someone like Payne in an event like this where you know you're going to see bad shots. But how do you kind of disregard what the shot is as opposed to the person who hit the shot? Well, the most important thing is to. I try to find. When we go to a swing, slow mo, I try to look for something that looks good. Whether it's the grip, the backswing, the impact position. And sometimes when you're dealing with, say, Charles Barkley, there's nothing there. It's hard to be able to figure it out early on, Charles, I will say, is one of the most improved golfers I've ever seen play. When Michael Jordan signed with Nike and I was living in Portland, Oregon, Phil Knight called me up and said, would you take this young kid named Michael Jordan? Back then he was Mike. Mike. Now he's Michael Jordan. But we would go play, and he was a 12, 14 handicapper. He was like a sponge. I would say, no, no. When you hit a flop, wedge goes open, you swing left, you throw the head under. He would do it. I've never seen anybody accept instruction and actually replicate it like a Michael Jordan. But Charles Barkley is getting there. If you watch him on the range, he's got some great instruction. He's got a lot of talent. He's got a lot of touch, too. Have you played Jordan for money? I have played Jordan for money. Like how much? During the Olympics, the Dream Team, we went and played in Portland because my buddy PJ Carlissimo was the trailblazer coach. And we would go out and play before the Games, and we'd play for a couple hundred bucks. That's it. I never lost to him. I don't think anybody's ever lost money to Michael. Really? Yeah. Sorry. Okay. I've often. Now, I've been around Mike before at the Jimmy V Golf tournament, and they said Mike will tell you his handicap is better than what he really is, and therefore he loses money. Is that a fair assessment? Yeah. Well, the other. The other part of your arsenal as a player is that you have to think you're a lot better than you really are. You've got to have a really good verbal game as well as a good short game and a good swing. So when we. When we come out here to the American century, it's so fun to see all these competitors that want to take their game from the gridiron or the. The wherever they play and translate it to the fairways. Here at Edgewood Tahoe, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. But what it doesn't do is. Is transfer or translate on a consistent basis, but which is okay because this is not what they do. This is what they choose to do on this week. And all these guys have competitive guts. Yeah, they all do. There's no age limit on desire and the. And the intense drive to get better. And that's what I love about what Charles gone, Charles has gone through. But yeah, it's fun to watch these guys, especially on 17, when they've got the boats and the people and they're throwing footballs at the guys to sign them and they have to get up and they have to hit an eight iron and thread that needle between the boats and the trees. Some can pull it off, some can't. Before I let you go, the future of the golf ball. Is it the golf ball that might be the issue or is it the technology of the driver? Definitely the technology. I don't think it's so much the golf ball as the technology of the club. Obviously, when I was playing, I've got a leg in both generations. When I started, we were playing wood woods. Persimmon. Persimmon woods, and we were using steel shafts. Now we've got, we've got composite heads and we've got composite shafts. You can literally go in and buy a game or you can go in and get on the launch monitor and figure out a game where back in the day, it was trial and error. That's why, in my book, the great Jack Nicklaus became great because he just went out, tried this, tried that. There was no computer to tell him what to use. I'm not saying, I'm not saying it's. I'm just saying it's different now because it's a little bit easier to dial in a drop driver or a wedge or a set of irons to get into the debate. Tiger, Jack. I do get into that, but it's different generations. As I said, you can't compare the two. It's. But if you had to win a major at their best. If I had to win a major at their best, I probably take Tigers simply because Tiger was more physically gifted. Was that 2000 that you would take? Tiger? Tiger. Well, tiger for about 10 years was untouchable. Nobody was as good as Tiger. And Tiger's the kind of guy like Jack. And the great players, when they got on the first tee, they just sucked the air, they sucked the energy through no fault of their own. But all the eyes were on Tiger. All the eyes were on Jack and Lee Trevino. And they'd come up there, what's like Larry Bird at the three point shooting contest, who's playing for second, right? It's exactly right. And Tiger was, was, was the iceman. Trevino's talking at everybody and throwing rubber snakes at people. But for some reason, everybody was watching that player and you knew you were playing for a second. He Just wanted to do his as well as you possibly could. Great to see you, Jake. Thank you for stopping by. Have fun this weekend. Next time, I get in the Masters. You're kidding. Oh, thank you. Next time, you swear we'll be. Yes. Okay. Yes, I will be there. Okay. I will be there. We got to call Ridley and get an invite. Yeah. Thank you. Peter Jacobson. He'll be on the call. Steve Sands, the entire crew, NBC and Peacock this weekend at American Century. But he is fibbing a little bit when I spilled his clubs because that's their money maker. And, man, I got the death stare. And I'm there with Fred Couples, the late Payne Stewart, and there's all these people watching. I've never carried the bag like that, that double strap. And all of a sudden I had one strap, and it was, you know, over my shoulder, and I could just feel all those clubs starting to fall out of the bag and. And I thought I just got to let him go. 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Listen to Disgraceland on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We didn't even get a poll question. First hour here, Dylan. My bad. Well, we. We've got one up, Dan. And actually, this was Marvin's brainchild. Which commissioner do you think would come on the show first? Kathy Engelbert or Roger Goodell? Cathie Wood. Well, we've got some early results, and maybe it's recency bias, but 62% say Goodell would come first. No. No Kathy Engelbert. Look, she said yes to Todd the other night, so I don't know what happened in the interim, but all of a sudden, we got word after two hours waiting that WNBA PR advised her not to do the interview. Look, we can save time. You know, we could. We could have saved a lot of time if somebody just said she'd rather not speak right now. Fine. That's all. I. Just be honest with me. I don't have any agenda other than I want to ask the questions that I get asked about the WNBA. Like Caitlin Clark. Was it on the 30th anniversary poster? Why are they under protecting Caitlin Clark? You know, last time you had a conversation with the officials, what are they seeing? What are they calling? Not calling. I just want to clear things up, that's all. I, I, I. This wasn't like Mike Wallace's 60 Minutes where I'm in attack mode. It's exploratory questions. That was all I was looking for. And if you don't want to come on the show, I tell Todd, don't even ask the NFL for Roger Goodell. I'm okay with it. Obviously, if I've been doing this 20 years here and he hasn't come on. He's not coming on. I take it as maybe prideful that maybe doesn't want, you know, to answer my questions. Whatever. Whatever his reason is, it's okay. But if Kathy says yes, then she should come on and she should answer these questions, because that's what commissioners do. You know what was interesting last night? I now I don't gamble anymore, But I did walk through the casino, and I saw the back room guys. You know, Dylan was there. Big day. Ray Mario, the eyes and ears of the show, and they're playing craps. Well, I didn't know. This whole digitizing, like pressing buttons when you're doing craps. I mean, they're trying to speed up the process here to make more money. Can you explain you won money last night playing craps, but tell me, like, when did these screens come onto the scene where you get to, hey, $25, and I'm gonna take this number, and we're ready to go? Well, so they have bubble craps, which is essentially you're just sitting there by yourself, and there's literally, like, two big dice in a tube, and you're just betting craps, hitting the button yourself. They also have sort of a hybrid of, like, a regular craps table and the bubble craps, where you have the actual table and you're throwing dice still, but instead of a bunch of people around the table table, there's your own little kiosk there with the screen, so you can just sit there and bet. So, like, Ray would get up and roll, and then it'd be like, all right, I'll go do it. And then we're all just kind of sitting there doing the. Placing our bets, and we. We had a nice roll down. But. But. But isn't the fun of it? The group around the craps table, where everybody's cheering, yelling, screaming. Well, it is. It is. It is. The most fun spot in the casino is like a hot craps table. But sometimes we're spent. Dan, we don't want to talk to you. We don't even want to talk to each other. So we just sit there at our little station, place our bets. One of us rolls, and I walk by a guy, and he said, hey, how you doing? I go, hey, good. And then he rolls the dice. And then I said, hey, do you want me to roll? He goes, no. I go, okay, I just thought I'd maybe give you some luck here. And he goes, we need an eight. We need an eight. And then he didn't get an eight. He got a six. I said, what's that mean? He goes, Well, I won $10. And then that was it. So that's as close as I've been to gambling in a long, long time. Yes, Todd, what happens to the days? And I'm not a gambler, but you blow on the dice, and, you know, mom needs a new pair of shoes, and all that stuff from the original days of craft is gone, I guess. I know. Yes, Paulie. Yeah, that's how it felt. I was sitting with the back room guys and Dylan and his crew, and it felt removed, like you're two feet back at this little like. Like a iPad, and you're making all your bets. But craps is the most complex game in the casino. I know it, but it took me a while. This has everything on one screen. You could make multiple, I mean, multiple bets rapidly. Because I was watching Dylan and he was hitting. But here's another thing with the casinos, and once again, I, I'm a novice with this, but it feels like the Texas hold' Em takes too long and the casinos want that turnover. You know, there's fewer tables for Texas hold'. Em. It's like blackjack, that's quick. And craps, that's quick. Roulette, that's quick. Like they, they want that quick turnover there. And you can play. But blackjack on your phone. I know, big day. Ray was playing that and he said you could play 15 hands in this, you know, the span of like two minutes. Yeah, you can go. I mean, like they have like the, they have virtual blackjack where it's like you're just sitting there, just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. So you can win a lot of money really quick, but you can also lose, of course. And that's usually what happens. Generally. Yes, Paul. So again, there's this little sidebar where you can just get drinks and watch sports. And I walk up to the guys and every single seat has a digital blackjack table, a little screen. So you're playing as you're ordering your drinks and watching the World Cup. Yeah. Yes. Todd, do we know if Dude Wipe sponsors any of these craps tables? You could put that on the felt. Of course you can. You could do that. Dude Wipes. Yes, Dylan. Yeah, the, the bar setup is actually funny. So you can, if you go sit there and you're playing, your drinks are comped. So you'll be like, this is a great deal. Throw some money in here. And then all of a sudden it's like a sixty dollar gin and tonic. Not bad. I was smoking a cigar with a big German. And he goes, we can smoke at the, in the casino. And I even asked somebody, I said, I got a cigar here, Can I smoke? And they, they looked at me like I was crazy. They go, yes, it's the casino. But nobody was smoking in there. Cigarette? No one. And I thought if I light up a cigar, everybody's going to go, oh, who's the jerk over? Oh, it's the talking hairdo. And I said to the big German, I said, we got to go out. We were out inside in an alley, sitting down on two rusty chairs, smoking a cigar. Last night? Yeah, Paulie. Last thing this morning, I got in the elevator at 4:15am the tape. The door opened on the casino level, not the lobby level. I saw some outlandish stuff going on at 4:15 in the morning. In the brief time that the door is open. Well, we're getting up. Some people haven't been to bed yet or they're going to bed with somebody. Yes, yes, yes. I don't care if you're the luckiest person. Well, you have to assess your life at some point. If it's 3, 4, 5 in the morning, you've been up all night with the slot machines. Why don't you say it to Dylan's face right there? I sent him an email a couple of days ago and he didn't respond. But he won. He actually won money. But until you lose. But that's how it goes. If you win, you think you're going to keep winning and if you lose and you have to chase your losses. So that's why. Well, I was going to get you a gift, Todd, but not anymore. Todd, you are the the one person who takes no risk in life at all. I try to be very careful and still a horrible things happen to me anyway. As careful as I am, I still can't avoid it. Hall of Famer Steve Young will join us. 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