Hour 1 – Early Heisman Candidates, The NFL Kicks Tom Brady Can Down the Road

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 1

Episode: Early Heisman Candidates, The NFL Kicks Tom Brady Can Down the Road
Date: September 17, 2025

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Episode Overview

Dan Patrick and the Danettes gather for a lively first hour focusing on early Heisman Trophy candidates, MVP races in Major League Baseball, and a deep dive into the controversy surrounding Tom Brady’s involvement as a broadcaster and minority owner in the Raiders’ coaches’ booth. The episode is colored by classic Dan Patrick humor, playful banter, interactive games, and informed commentary on recent sports news.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Baseball Pennant Races & MVP Update (02:46–09:17)

• Significant Achievements:

  • Cal Raleigh hits his 55th and 56th home runs.
  • Shohei Ohtani smacks his 50th, pitching five no-hit innings.
  • Dodgers bullpen woes, losing to the Phillies.

• MVP Odds:

  • Shohei Ohtani: Overwhelming favorite for AL MVP.
  • Cal Raleigh and Kyle Schwarber are contenders, but Ohtani’s two-way dominance makes him almost untouchable.
  • Discussion about the value of home run milestones (see next section).

  “Shohei Ohtani, overwhelming favorite to win the MVP. He’s minus 10,000.”
  —Dan Patrick (08:02)

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2. Home Run Milestones: 50, 60, or 500? (09:17–14:41)

• Historical Perspective:

  • The panel debates the prestige of 60 home runs in a season versus 500 in a career.
  • 60 HR in a year is rare (“only six people have done it”)—Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Judge, Maris, Ruth.
  • 500+ HRs in a career almost guarantees Hall of Fame status.

• Value Judgment:

  • Most would rather have the longevity and consistency implied by 500 HRs over the flash of a single monster season.

  “Six, 60 in a year is more special.”
  —Fritzi Seaton (11:51)

  “But I would rather have—if I’m hitting 500 home runs, I’m going to be a Hall of Famer.”
  —Dan Patrick (11:48)

  • Discussion of “random” big homer hitters and steroid-era suspicions—or lack thereof for this year’s leaders.

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3. 3,000 Hits and Baseball Longevity (14:00–15:11)

• 3,000 Hits as a Milestone:

  • Less flashy than home run records, but still revered for demonstrating career longevity and consistency.
  • It’s becoming increasingly rare in the modern game, as is the 300-win pitcher.

  “But we’re not going to have very many of those guys anymore. We’re going to have guys who hit 60 home runs. But if you look at the number of guys in recent memory who have eclipsed 3,000 hits…very, very few.”
  —Dan Patrick (14:18)

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4. Game: Closest to 3,000 MLB Hits (Active Players) (15:11–17:01)

• The Danettes play “Guess the Active Player Closest to 3,000 Hits.”
  • Clues and guesses lead to Freddie Freeman (currently at 2,420).
  • Discussion of other top hitters: Jose Altuve, Paul Goldschmidt, Manny Machado.

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5. NFL & Tom Brady Conflict of Interest Debate (22:53–27:44)

• Background:

  • Tom Brady, now a minority Raiders owner and future broadcaster, was spotted in the coaches’ booth with a headset during a loss to the Chargers.

• Dan’s Concern:

  • Is there a real or perceived conflict of interest when a broadcasting figure with team ownership is given access to coaching operations and potentially privileged information?
  • The NFL’s response to an inquiry from the show sidestepped the “broadcaster” aspect, focusing on his role as an owner.

  “There are no policies that prohibit an owner from sitting in the coaches booth. Now, once again we ask about a broadcaster, not a coach, or not an owner, and nothing that prohibits him from wearing a headset during the game.”
  —Dan Patrick (24:04)

  “If I’m the Bears… the last thing I’m doing is sharing. I’m not currying favor here.”
  —Dan Patrick (26:07)

  • Media and fan skepticism persists, while the NFL hopes the story fades.

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6. Week’s Big NFL Betting Line: Dolphins vs. Bills (28:38–30:41)

• An interactive segment "Guess the spread" for the coming Dolphins–Bills game.

  • The spread opens at a surprising 12.5 points in favor of Buffalo, far higher than typical divisional games.
  • The hosts discuss when a spread this big is warranted and how rare such large lines are in the NFL.

  “12 and a half against Miami, divisional rival. Surprised at that.”
  —Dan Patrick (31:08)

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7. Callers and Interactive Moments (31:28–52:24)

• Fan Questions:
  • Ryder Cup advice (arrive early for the first tee, says Dan—32:07).
  • Ken Griffey Jr.’s legacy in the “juicing era” and the impact of injuries (33:05–34:38).
• Scenic Baseball Commentary:
  • Discussion about why left-handed swings and shooters are aesthetically more pleasing.
  • Appreciation for Ken Griffey Jr., Darryl Strawberry, Paul Molitor, Barry Bonds, Hank Aaron, and others legendary for their style at the plate.

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8. College Football Coaching Under Scrutiny (35:52–41:50)

• Brian Kelly’s Press Conference Blow-Up and Apology:

  • Kelly bristles at questions about his offense after a win—deflects, then apologizes (37:07).
  • Dan’s critique: Coaches demand composure from players but lose theirs in the media room.

• Dabo Swinney’s Defense of His Record:

  • Swinney defends his legacy at Clemson amid mounting pressure and fan unrest (39:40).

  “If they tired of winning, they can send me on the way, because that’s all we’ve done is win.”
  —Dabo Swinney (39:40)

  “I got a long way to go. Y’all gonna have to deal with me for a while.”
  —Dabo Swinney (40:16)

• Dan’s Advice:

  • “Be careful what you ask for. …You may not like his approach, but he would get a job by later today.” —Dan Patrick (41:50)

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9. Baseball’s Future: Will the Game Re-Emphasize Hits Over HRs? (50:25–52:24)

• A caller wonders if baseball, like the NBA’s potential three-point correction, will see a return to valuing contact and average over exit velocity and home runs.
• Dan predicts someone will exploit market inefficiency with speed and contact hitting, likening it to Whitey Herzog’s 1980s Cardinals.
• Marvin cites the Oklahoma City Thunder and Shai Gilgeous-Alexander as NBA parallels for a shift in offensive focus.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Dan on Heisman Race:

  “You can’t win it in September, you can lose it in September, but somebody’s going to stand out.” (04:45)

• Fritzi Seaton on Milestones:

  “3,000 hits is still—a hell of a milestone, longevity wise. But it’s not flashy at all.” (14:00)

• On Tom Brady’s NFL Role:

  “If Tom was there, but he wasn’t in the coaching booth, I don’t know if we would be, you know, have a problem with it. …It’s the perceived conflict of interest here. But the NFL is just trying to kick this down the can, down the road.” (25:11)

• Brian Kelly’s Press Conference (audio replay): (37:07)
  “We played the game to win the game.” —Brian Kelly

• Dabo Swinney, defending his career: (39:40)
  “If they tired of winning, they can send me on the way, because that’s all we’ve done is win.”

• Dan on Coaching Hires:

  “Be careful what you ask. …You want to run him out of town, who you bringing in?” (41:57)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 02:46: Baseball highlights, Cal Raleigh/Ohtani, MVP odds
• 09:22: Value of 50 vs. 60 vs. 500 home runs
• 15:11: Game: Closest active player to 3,000 hits
• 22:53: Tom Brady booth controversy and NFL non-answer
• 28:38: Guess the Dolphins vs. Bills betting line
• 31:28–34:38: Callers on Ryder Cup, Ken Griffey Jr., left-handed swings
• 35:52: Brian Kelly’s postgame meltdown & media handling
• 39:40: Dabo Swinney’s passionate defense of his time at Clemson
• 50:25: Will baseball ever shift back toward valuing hits/contact?

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Tone and Style

The conversation is lively, irreverent, smart, and always includes good-natured teasing and inside jokes among the Danettes. Even while discussing serious subjects (like conflicts of interest in the NFL or criticism of college coaches), Dan keeps the tone engaging and relatable, directly involving the audience with games, trivia, and phone calls.

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For a deep-dive into sports’ biggest storylines and insider commentary delivered with a blend of wisdom and wit, Hour 1 of this Dan Patrick Show episode is essential listening.

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[Fritzi Seaton]

Hold on one second, let me pull up. Let me call that up. As they say, vamp, please, if you will.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Vamping. Vamping. I do have the MVP odds. Shohei Otani, overwhelming favorite to win the MVP. He's minus 10,000. Kyle Schwarber is plus 1900. Aaron Judge minus 900. Cal Raleigh plus 475. I know I've been making a case for Schwerber and Cal Raleigh to at least make it close. Cal Raleigh is going to make it close. Kyle Schwaber is not. But with the big dumper there with what he's done and you got a team that's played, I think they won 10 in a row and he's playing the most important position as catcher. And you're hitting 56 home runs as a switch hitter. Aaron Judge, I expect him to hit home runs and the Yankees playoff chase as well, being a contender sh Otani, just the uniqueness of this, meaning it's an oh by the way at 50 home runs and then, oh yeah, and he had five no hit innings. Like just some of this is oh by the way with him. But I think with what Schwarber has done for the Phillies, Phillies have been a good story this year as well. And I don't want it to be that much of a, you know, discrepancy between first and second. But you're going to have that certainly in the National League. All right, Seaton, what do we have?

[Fritzi Seaton]

Well, I was trying to come up with a poll question about hitting. We've talked a bunch about this before the show about getting to that 60 home run mark and how important that is. It's still a line of demarcation, right?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Fritzi Seaton]

So is there. How valuable is hitting 50 home runs in a season?

[Dan Patrick]

50 is big.

[Fritzi Seaton]

It's a massive number still. But it doesn't quite carry it anymore, does it?

[Dan Patrick]

A lot of people have hit 50. It's a shorter list, a really shorter list that those who have hit 60. You know, Sosa did it three times, but there's an asterisk by everything that he did. Bonds the same way and Maguire in there. Maguire twice, Aaron Judge. So if Cal Raleigh, I thought if he got to 60, if he got to 60, then he might be able to win the MVP playing that position. And he's a good catcher, considered better than average catcher. And then you put in the offensive numbers there as well, certainly the home runs for a team, you know, that has been in the playoff chase the entire season, but hitting 60, how many guys have hit 60? There have been five, six. Yeah, Paulie.

[Paulie]

Yeah. And if Cal Righ hits 60, he might be the most random because he, you know, he usually gets about 33, 35 a year. But the player comp with Cal Raleigh, it might be Roger Maris. Roger maris went from 39 to 61, back to 33. He never hit 40 again.

[Dan Patrick]

And there's no suspicion, though, at, you know, with Cal Raleigh, Like, I haven't heard. Hey, well, I don't know. And there have been players where you go, I don't know. That's a big jump. But, you know, Aaron Judge, you don't hear anything. Shohei Otani, Kyle Schwaber. So the guys who are hitting home runs this year, there's no cloud of suspicion with them? Yes.

[Fritzi Seaton]

So you look at what did we say? Six people have hit 60 home runs.

[Paulie]

Is that Bonds, McGuire, Sosa, Judge, Maris, Ruth.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Fritzi Seaton]

I think, you know, about 30 people have hit 500 home runs in their career.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Fritzi Seaton]

Which would you rather do?

[Dan Patrick]

Hit 60 in a year or 500 for a career? 500 for a career.

[Fritzi Seaton]

Just because of the longevity?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. If I'm hitting 500 home runs, I'm going to be a Hall of Famer.

[Fritzi Seaton]

Six, 60 in a year is more special.

[Dan Patrick]

It is, but I would rather have. I mean, Hank Aaron never hit 50 home runs over. No, I'm kidding. Watch yourself. You watch yourself. Yeah, I'd say 500. If you said, if you said 350 home runs or 400 home runs, then maybe I'd look at, you know, the. But hitting 60. And you had that one year and then you came back to earth. I'd like to know what I hit after the, the season after I hit 16.

[Fritzi Seaton]

Home run was always in the 50s.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. If all of a sudden I'm hitting 28 and then I'm going, nah, you know, it's like a Brady Anderson, Luis Gonzalez, you know, you had some of these guys, it's like, where'd that come from? And then all of a sudden they came back to earth. Yeah.

[Paulie]

Paulie, here's some randos that have hit 50 plus. Jose Batista, Matt Olson. Matt Olson, baseball player. Chris Davis, remember him?

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, he's a baseball player. Yeah. Oh, okay. And he hit 50 home runs. Okay.

[Paulie]

No one knows where he plays. Chris Davis, remember his little run?

[Dan Patrick]

Orioles. Orioles, yeah.

[Paulie]

Cecil Fielder, of course. Andrew Jones, Johnny Mize, Brady Anderson, Albert Bell. Greg Vaughn in the 50s.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow. Greg Vaughan. Gone is in Vaughn. Yeah.

[Fritzi Seaton]

See, you know how you can tell we all spend a lot of time together? The way we all just said Orioles like that. We all went Orioles. The exact same tone, the exact same pace, everything.

[Dan Patrick]

We just.

[Fritzi Seaton]

We might spend too much time together. Orioles.

[Dan Patrick]

Matt Olsen, former A Atlanta Brave. Correct. Baseball player.

[Paulie]

Definitely a baseball player.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yeah. Not to be confused with Matt Olsen.

[Paulie]

He was an Oakland A when they were in Oakland. And then he went to the Braves.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

But he went 54. And the year before he went 34. Year after he went 29. The spike season.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I'd rather hit 500 home runs than 60, but I hope Cal Raleigh gets to 60. Then it would be fun to at least have a little bit of an MVP race. Yes.

[Fritzi Seaton]

This is way less flashy than even both of those numbers. 60 home runs or 500 home runs. But 3,000 hits is still. I think there's about 30, maybe 35 people who have done that. That's a hell of a milestone, longevity wise. But it's not flashy at all. There's nothing sexy about three, three thousand hits.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but we're not going to have very many of those guys anymore. We're going to have guys who hit 60 home runs. But if you look at the number of guys in recent memory who have eclipsed 3,000 hits and how many guys have an opportunity to do that in the future? Very, very.

[Fritzi Seaton]

It's like 300 wins as a pitcher.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, it's not going to happen. Yeah, it's not going to happen. Ohtani with five hitless innings. Here's the problem. The bullpen has been terrible, allowing 14 runs, 12 hits, five home runs, seven walks, and this is the last 12 innings of work. Six of the seven relievers used have allowed at least one run. Mariners have won 10 in a row, and that's their longest winning streak. And Seattle maintains a half game lead over Houston in the AL West. Yes, I'm hearing rumblings we might be.

[Fritzi Seaton]

Playing the Guess the active player closest to 3000 hits game.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, love that game. I think.

[Fritzi Seaton]

Yeah, yeah, we're just dropping it on you right now.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Okay.

[Paulie]

Who would like to go first?

[Dan Patrick]

Who is the closest to 3,000?

[Paulie]

This gentleman's at 24,22,420. Pretty well known player for sure.

[Dan Patrick]

Paul Goldschmidt.

[Paulie]

No, but I'm gonna give you a blue for that because that's a nice guess.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, thank you.

[Paulie]

Goldschmidt is at 2183.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Paulie]

Schmitty as I call. No one's ever done that.

[Dan Patrick]

You gotta be careful. Anybody else have a guess?

[Paulie]

Chrissy doesn't guess current baseball players.

[Dan Patrick]

That's true. Yeah. He's got somebody from the Astros. Yes. Oh, I love Cesar Sedano. Yes.

[Fritzi Seaton]

Like a Manny Machado type.

[Paulie]

Partial bloop. He is over 2000.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, I'll take that.

[Fritzi Seaton]

I'll take that.

[Dan Patrick]

Marvin, you got somebody?

[Marvin]

Francisco Lindor.

[Dan Patrick]

No.

[Paulie]

He's still working his way up. Second place is Jose altuve of the Astros, 23.79. I'll give you a hint. This player was very popular on a team and then stunningly, was sent out to a West coast team.

[Dan Patrick]

Marvin.

[Marvin]

Freddie Freeman.

[Paulie]

Freddie Freeman is correct.

[Dan Patrick]

Fred Freeman.

[Paulie]

Fredo Freeman.

[Dan Patrick]

Two, four, two. Okay. All right. Alfredo, what do you want on that pasta? Some Alfredo.

[Paulie]

He's got 500. He's got 600 to go.

[Dan Patrick]

Almost. Dang. You're saying he's got a shot here? Got a chance. How old is Alfredo? Say 35.

[Paulie]

Fred Freeman is 36 years old.

[Dan Patrick]

36.

[Paulie]

Just last week.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Happy birthday. All right, we'll come up with a poll question. We'll get to your phone calls. 8773 DP show the NFL responded to our email yesterday about Tom Brady and is there a conflict of interest? We will give you what Todd sent to the NFL. What the NFL sent back to us while still in the process not answering our question that we had for them. Was that by design? I'm gonna say yes. By the way, Dolphins at the Bills tomorrow night. Oh, that's where you play the. We'll play Guess the betting line. The Dolphins at the Bills. We'll take a break. Just getting started here. We're back after this and the Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's me, Rob Parker.

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[Dan Patrick]

A little bit of time, maybe too much time yesterday talking about the conflict of interest or the appearance of a conflict of interest with Tom Brady in the booth in the coach's booth and having a headset on, helping with the offense with Chip Kelly during the Raiders loss to the Chargers. So I said to Todd, would you reach out to the NFL and ask about broadcasters being in the coaching booth, not owner because Tom is minority owner and Todd sent this to the NFL. Our broadcasters allowed in coaching booths. Is there any statement from the league on Tom being in the Raiders booth? Thank you very much Todd. Then we heard back from the NFL. There are no policies that prohibit an owner from sitting in the coaches booth. Now once again we ask about a broadcaster, not a coach or not an owner and nothing that prohibits him from wearing a headset during the game. Brady was sitting in the booth in his capacity as a limited partner. All personnel sitting in the booth must abide by Policies that prohibit the use of electronic devices other than the league issued equipment, such as Microsoft Surface tablet for the sideline viewing system. Also, Tom continues to be prohibited from going into a team facility for practices or production meetings. He may attend production meetings remotely, but may not attend in person at the teen facility or hotel. He can conduct an interview off site with a player like he did last year a couple of times, including for the Super Bowl. Of course, as with any production meeting with broadcast teams, it's up to the club, coach or players to determine what they will say in those sessions. Once again, we ask about a broadcaster sitting in the coaching booth, not about an owner there. Tom is a minority owner. He's allowed to be in the coaching booth. Is a broadcaster allowed to be there? That was what we wanted to know. Still want to know. But Todd reaching out to the NFL and, you know, I, if I'm the Bears and Tom comes in or we're doing an interview, I mean, I'm instructing if, if I'm Ben Johnson, I'm instructing my entire staff. Let's be very limited. Let's be polite, be professional, be gracious, but let's not share much and it's going to hurt the broadcast. But if I'm the Bears and you're in desperate need of a win, the last thing I'm doing is sharing. I'm not currying favor here. I want to make sure that we're going to win a game. I don't want to tell you anything. I don't want to tell you anything that you're going to be able to tell the Raiders, which. Why wouldn't Tom do that? Is there a separation of church and state where Tom's going to go, hey, Chip Kelly, I can't tell you because I, you know, in my other job, I was told this. I can't tell you about, you know, what the defense is going to do or what they like to do or who's banged up on the other side line of scrimmage. Like there's. Once again, it's the perceived conflict of interest here. But the NFL is just trying to kick this down the can, down the road. Now, hey, once we get to Thursday and then it's not going to be a big deal. Well, it's going to be a big deal when the Raiders play the Bears. Then it becomes a big deal again. But the NFL survives all of this and they don't have to answer anything. You know, if I'm Commissioner Goodell, all he has to say is, hey, the owners don't have a problem with this. I don't have a problem with this. It's you guys in the media, okay? And maybe that's the case. Maybe fans don't care. But it's a conflict of interest that Tom is in. And if you're. If you're going to help the Raiders, let's not be blatant about it because that's how this happened. If Tom was there, but he wasn't in the coaching booth, I don't know if we would be, you know, have a problem with it. Be like, all right, we get it. I still don't like it because I want him to be. If you're going to do the game as a fan, I want you to do the game, do it correctly. Be able to talk to the people you know. What did Ben Johnson tell you? What did he tell you about Caleb Williams, whatever it might be? Why does he hold on to the ball so long? Why did you think Caleb got sacked 68 times late? Like, I don't know. These are questions. Am I going to answer those? How forthcoming are you going to be? But we thought we would at least ask the NFL just so we had them on record. But they didn't say anything about a broadcaster. They said the owner can be there. Yeah.

[Paulie]

Paulie, I would really like to hear Fox's reaction to this. The people who run Fox. My expensive broadcaster is on Monday Night Football with a headset on, and he's. They're doing cutaways on my competing network.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I. We did try to reach out to the head of Fox Sports, Eric Shanks. We didn't hear back. But, you know, once again, Todd's not afraid of reaching out to anybody just so we can get an answer. That's all. I'd be curious. Well, and I'm the Bears. I'm like, tom, sorry, can't do it. I can't do it. All right, we got a poll question ready to go. Ross Tucker will join us. Ross Tucker had something. He had some negative things to say about Caleb Williams. He doesn't think this is going to work out in Chicago. So we'll talk to Ross Tucker coming up next hour about that. Ross is firing away. All right, you got the Bills hosting the Dolphins on Thursday night. Let's guess the draft kings betting line for this game. Todd. Bills favored by, I'm going to say.

[Marvin]

Because it's division rival. Six and a half.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, very good. Seaton.

[Fritzi Seaton]

Five and a half.

[Dan Patrick]

Marvin.

[Marvin]

Ten and a half.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm gonna go seven and a Half.

[Paulie]

I wrote down nine and a half before I got the word. The official line right now is the bills are given 12 and a half to the.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, my God. Dang.

[Paulie]

It's a monster.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow.

[Fritzi Seaton]

They're just begging you to take that.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, they are.

[Paulie]

That's all the Sharps say.

[Dan Patrick]

They're just begging you. 12 and a half. It's not like the Ravens were playing the Browns. And what were the Ravens favored by? Like 11 and a half.

[Caller]

Dang.

[Dan Patrick]

Mike McDaniel. You got to hold on for dear life that this game doesn't get out of reach. Oh, standalone game. Everybody's going to have an opinion at Friday morning. Yes, Marvin.

[Marvin]

So the Dolphins eat a good loss is what you're saying?

[Dan Patrick]

Well, yes, a close loss or a great win, that would help. All of a sudden you lose a couple of games and then you'll hear this. Hey, John Gruden, Dolphins, question mark. Because you're going to get somebody the opposite of Mike McDaniel if you replace him. You're not going to get a nerd type. You're going to get a Dan Campbell type. You're going to get that fiery guy. We got to get him going. Come on in here. We're biting kneecaps. Mike McDaniel is cerebral, nerdy, but in a good way. But 12 and a half, dang, that's insulting. That is tough. How often do we have a 12 and a half point betting line?

[Paulie]

I would say looking at this week's spreads and last week's, there's rarely in the first week do you get anything over eight points, like a big one. This week is the packers are given seven and a half to the Browns and I think the Seahawks are giving seven and a half to the Saints. It doesn't really go past 10 points usually in the regular season.

[Dan Patrick]

We need to find out how often do you have a 12 1/2 point betting line in the NFL. It feels like maybe once or twice a season you might have something like that. Maybe at the end of the season when somebody's banged up or somebody's not going to be, you know, using their starters. Yes, Todd, I know the Dolphins are.

[Marvin]

Off to a slow start, but the mere fact that it's a division game, you can't make that like under double digit spread, even nine and a, which is still too high to me.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, 12 and a half. Man, Buffalo's good. But 12 and a half against Miami, divisional rival. Surprised at that. All right, we'll get a couple of phone calls in here. Eight, seven, seven three DP show Eric. And Syracuse leads us off. Good morning, Eric. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Morning. Thanks, Dan.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Caller]

Six, three and a hardening 250. So Dan, I need your advice for the Ryder Cup. But first I need to Wish A happy 40th birthday to the salt of the earth and the founding father of the BDU's Uncle Craig. Love you, brother. So Dan, for the Ryder Cup, I'm going on Sunday with my dad, brother and 11 year old son. My brother and I are committed to the 4am arrival to make the first tea and have that experience. I asked my son if he wanted to get in live and get to the 4am or if he wants to sleep in and arrive late with grandpa. He said we should let Uncle Dan decide. So what do we do?

[Dan Patrick]

It's, it's a, you know, a once in a lifetime experience. If you can get there, get there for the first tee. I mean it's going to be raucous. I mean I would want to sleep in, but if you get this opportunity, I'd suck it up. Go and then once you go and you'll be happy that you did. So have fun. Eric, I appreciate you calling David in Cincinnati. Hi David. What's on your mind today?

[Caller]

Hey, what's going on fellas? I was just touching base on the baseball statistics you guys are putting out there. Probably one of the best players that would have been ever to play if it wasn't for the juicing error, probably would have been Ken Griffey Jr. Because I believe, you know, he had over 500 home runs. He had over 50, you know, in the season. And I just feel like he would have been a better player in that era if it wasn't for that. And then also on top of that, how do you feel about the Reds making the playoffs? And if they do, do they make a splash?

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, you know, I'm, I'm happy for Tito if they make the playoffs. But as far as making a splash, I haven't followed it that closely. But you know Junior, he hit 56 home runs in 1997 and then hit 56 in 1998. He just got banged up second half of his career, had maybe the best swing in baseball history. He'd be on the short list of that. Why is it right handed hitters don't have a beautiful swing but left handed hitters always do? Why is it a left handed shooter? Man, that looks beautiful right handed, I don't know why that is, but we always like that left handed swing is just majestic. Although McGuire's swing was, you know, a large loopy, you know, that was a long swing, but it feels like, you know, you're a left handed hitter. Oh, that's a gorgeous swing. I go, tawny, that's a gorgeous swing. If we turned him around and then you just looked at it, you know, and it's like he swung right handed, would we feel the same way?

[Paulie]

Yes, Paul, there was a point, and this is obvious, but that When Ken Griffey Jr. Is 26, 27, 28 years old, he was gonna might be the best of all time. He was on pace to be the best of all time. I mean, he had average likability, star power, power, everything glove. And I mean, he finishes 20s, MVP fourth. Man, he was on his way.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, Marvin.

[Marvin]

Yeah. The funny thing about McGuire, Sosa, the year before, it was really supposed to be Maguire, Griffey, because the year before I think McGuire hit 58, Griffey hit 56. So they're like, all right, going into the season, those two should be the ones that are going up there. And then Sosa kind of came out of nowhere.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, well, I know.

[Marvin]

Well, we know.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. Even Bonds doesn't have a glorious swing. That is violent. That is. So I would look at Bonds and Paul Molitor. Now, Molitor wasn't a home run hitter, but as far as quick like just that, it's so short. Boom, right through the, right through the zone. Molitor had a great swing. It was just so quick. But Bonds, the fact that you could go and you could face maybe 20 pitches in a game and you get one strike and he would make you pay with that one strike. Still amazing. Steroids or not. Still amazing. Yes. Todd.

[Marvin]

Darrell Strawberry had a quick one with his. Just a flick of the wrist across the. Had a pretty swing that went across the plate real fast.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Hank Aaron had a very quick him and Mike Schmidt, it was wrist. It was just like a snap. Let's see. Brian in Cincinnati. Hi, Brian. What's on your mind?

[Caller]

Hey, Dan. I got a lot to unpack, so we'll do it quick. It's Drew Brees five, ten and a half, hard 180. Brian Kelly came out during his interview after biting at a reporter saying that how much do you want us to win by? But he chose the strange and arbitrary number of 70 to 0, which is exactly how much my Bearcats won. And everybody in Cincinnati loves watching Brian Kelly suffer so.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, he is still winning there. Winning. His accent is not there yet, but here is. This is after Saturday's win over Florida. Brian Kelly, the LSU head coach, and he is being asked by a reporter this question. Brian in the back, I know you.

[Marvin]

You love these immediate post game sessions, but what are you seeing with your offense? Stop. Really? Is that the first question? We won the game 20 to 10.

[Dan Patrick]

Try another question.

[Marvin]

We played the game to win the game.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, how about third down then? What is going on with third down?

[Marvin]

It's one game. Last game we were great on third down. Your micro, you're looking at this from the wrong perspective. LSU won the football game. Won the game. I don't know what you want from me.

[Dan Patrick]

What do you want?

[Marvin]

You want us to win 70 to nothing against Florida to keep you happy?

[Dan Patrick]

No, I think people want to know.

[Marvin]

Why you can't run the ball.

[Dan Patrick]

Quite.

[Marvin]

We can run the ball. Did you see the last play of the game? That.

[Dan Patrick]

That's all you need.

[Marvin]

You just need one. There's a ridiculous questions.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, they're not ridiculous questions. I still am always amazed that coaches implore us to show composure as a player, but they never have composure and they didn't have a running attack. You got five interceptions and you won by 10 points against Florida at home. That, that's a problem. Five interceptions, you win by 10 and I think you rushed for maybe 60 yards and you had 50 yards on one carry. Yeah, running attack is an issue, but you know Brian, after the game he's trying to bully the reporter. And then on Monday, here is Brian Kelly with an apology.

[Marvin]

I've texted with Mike and offered my apology to him for the way I handled the questioning. I think it's important to understand that, you know, my standards relative to how we work with the media on a day to day basis need to be higher. And I take responsibility for that and I'll be better in the future.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay? Brian has been this way his entire career. It's really easy to be better at this. You won the game like you would have thought. He lost the game. All you have to do is say, yeah, you know what? We're going to look at the tape. We got to figure out we should be rushing for more yards than that. Not we won the game. Yes, you did. Because the quarterback for Florida threw five interceptions. Not because of your offense, because of your defense. And that's what the reporter was asking about. But man, and I've been in those press conferences where you get singled out and you got to hang in there. And I give credit to the reporter. Hung in there, didn't back down, not going to Bully me. I'm going to ask my question. Yes, Todd.

[Marvin]

Yeah, I was going to say, too. I love how he stayed in the box. And he said, okay, what about third down? Why do you not have a run game? He doubled down, tripled down. He didn't hide, you know, behind his microphone or his, you know, tape recorder.

[Dan Patrick]

You had the Clemson coach, Dabo Sweeney, talking to the media as the walls are kind of closing in on Dabo there at least maybe the appearance. And the Clemson head coach had this to say.

[Marvin]

If they want me gone, they. If they tired of winning, they can send me on the way, because that's all we've done is win. So if they tired of winning, we've had. We've won this league eight out of the last 10 years.

[Dan Patrick]

Is that not good?

[Marvin]

I'm just asking, is that good? I don't know if that's good or not. To win your league, eight out of 10 years to go to the playoffs, seven out of 10 years being four national championships. Win it twice. Yeah, we look down right now. Take your shots. But I got a long memory, in case y' all don't know. We'll be all right.

[Dan Patrick]

We'll bounce back.

[Marvin]

And, hey, listen, I mean, Clemson's tired of winning. They send me on my way, but I'm gonna go somewhere else. And coach, I ain't going to the beach. Hell, I'm 55. I got a long way to go. Y' all gonna have to deal with.

[Dan Patrick]

Me for a while.

[Marvin]

Got a long way to go. I'm just getting going. I'm just now good enough to be a head coach.

[Dan Patrick]

Good for him. You know, we forget who you bringing in. That's why I always say, all right, you want to run him out of town, who you bringing in? You may not like his approach. He doesn't like the transfer portal, but I know. I think they brought in three starters or three marquee players in the portal. But his point is, if we recruit well enough, we'll have a good enough team, and our players don't transfer. But most of the teams that are bringing in transfers are losing players or players go to the NFL. And a lot of teams, they'll bring in a quarterback. You know, Will Howard comes in at Ohio State. Notre Dame's done this the last couple of years. They've had Cade Club Nick there for a few years at Clemson, but Dabo Sweeney will get a job. If Dabo Sweeney became available, how do you think Alabama would react with what's going on there with Kaylin Devore? They'd probably be like, what's the buyout here? And Clemson, I think, has got a maybe it's $60 million buyout with Dabo. He's available. What do you think Florida would say, Coach, come on down. Now, has he had the recent success of playing for national championship, you know, being in the hunt for that? No, but he's still, he's a great coach and he would get a job. If he's gone today, he'll get a job by later today. Yeah.

[Paulie]

Paulie, the 18 seasons before he arrived at Clemson, they had zero seasons where they won 10 games.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

I mean, it's not even close.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Just be careful what you ask. And, and it's that in the moment, like, you know what, we're getting embarrassed and we don't lose these games. How dare. But then, you know you're going to question his resume. He's gonna, he's gonna hand out his. I thought, why not just hand out your resume to everybody there to remind them. Here you go. Here you go. Here you go. Here you go. All right, let me take a break. More phone calls coming up. We got our play of the day next. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

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[Marvin]

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[Dan Patrick]

The Play of the Day the Day Check this out. The 10 pitch. Otani launches high in the air deep right field. Number 50 emphatically leaves the yard on a night he started the game and threw five no hit innings. He then comes up to the plate in the eighth and launches home run number 50 on the season. But the Dodgers bullpen gave up nine runs in four innings for their second consecutive blown lead loss to the Phillies. They stay two games up on the Padres in the West. That's courtesy of AM570, the LA Dodgers Radio Network. That's your Play of the Day Play of the Day brought to you by some TLC from Mako. They bring your car back to life. Affordable paint jobs, light collision repairs. Get a free estimate today. Oh, better get Mako. We I asked the question how many games are have a point spread of 12 and a half or more? Well, Jay Morrison covers the Bengals for sportsillustrated.com and he said actually a lot. 139 games with a spread of 12 and a half or More since 2015, 75 such games since 2020 and eight games in 2024. This is the start of the day. Thank you Jay. Stat of the Day brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick Show Zach and South Bend Good morning Zach. What's on your mind today?

[Caller]

Good morning Dan. Six three shooter. I want to tell you a quick story before I ask you this question. So I I'm from South Bend, played basketball four years at Holy Cross. Had the Rudy dream. Going over to Holy Cross, getting my grades up, getting my game up and going over Notre Dame. Didn't happen. Our first season we were 0 and 30. Not good. So I haven't been back tailgating. We used to do that a Lot haven't been back tailgating since I graduated about 15 years ago. And in the last week, my buddies and I, we snagged you a Hoya, the Monterey cigar. We heard you talking about it, that you like them, and we wanted to send you one for like an early retirement. And yesterday we were reminded that you guys are going to kill gating at the USC Notre Dame game. So we kind of put the pieces together. Like, man, it'd be awesome if we could bring him the cigar, get a quick picture with him. Wouldn't hang around or anything weird. But we were wondering if there was a creative way to make that happen.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, we're trying to figure out if we can do an audience there. We're going to do our show on Thursday and Friday that week with USC Notre Dame. And we'll give you the details there, Zach. But yeah, we can arrange something coming by. And anybody who's in our studio audience, we tell them if you're there and you stay after the show, everybody gets a picture and we'll be happy to take care of you that way. Thank you. Thank you for the offer and a great cigar as well. Zach in Knoxville. Hi, Zach. What's on your mind today?

[Caller]

Adp, thanks for taking my call. You've talked about the fact that you think the NBA is going to correct itself eventually with just the three point shooting. Do you see that happening in baseball where we put more of an emphasis on getting hits as opposed to someone getting into Cooperstown based off their exit velocity?

[Dan Patrick]

I've been saying this, that at some point I'm going to have half of my games obviously in my ballpark. I want to build my team to my ballpark. I want to have a distinct home field advantage. And I go back to the Cardinals in the mid-80s, they had the fastest team probably in baseball history. Everybody could run. And, you know, it's Whitey Herzogen, great manager. And I just wonder if you get pitching and speed and not everybody can get power but. And not everybody can get speed, but if you corner the market on something like that, I just, I've seen it too many times, whether it was Ricky Henderson or Lou Brock, some of these great base Steelers, the pressure they put on you and it just ruins. It just ruins the pitcher where he's worrying about you. They're making it easier to steal bases. And I know that we don't fall in love with batting average. I mean, how many guys are going to hit over.300 this year? 10. And there's no pride in what your batting average is they they don't care but they're told they don't have to care how many home runs which are on base percentage, all of those things. I think somebody at some point will go you know what, let's build a team this way. Same thing with basketball. Somebody is going to build a team where I'm scoring every single time down low. Now I know the numbers and you're going to shoot the threes. I get that. But somebody will have to almost have a counter attack to say we're going to try to guard you at the three point line. You're not going to be able to guard us inside because we don't value that rim protectors anymore.

[Marvin]

Yes Marvin, I think you saw that last NBA season with Oklahoma City Thunder Shay Gilders Alexander, he's not a three point shooter. He made all of his money past the three point line. So he wasn't they weren't heavy on the three point shooting. So you might see a change in the NBA but not like you would.

[Dan Patrick]

Think, well you got to find somebody like Shay Gilgis who mid range and he can get to the hoop. But I just think that there's still value in doing that. Getting to the free throw line getting you in foul trouble. Not everybody can shoot the three. Not everybody should shoot the three. And you saw that with okc. It's a great point Marvin. Thank you for strengthening my argument there. Ross Tucker is going to join us. He was fired up not too long ago about Caleb Williams said if you ask him if Caleb Williams would be the quarterback in Chicago in three years, Ross said no. Why is everybody down on Caleb Williams? Hour two on the way after this.

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