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This is an iHeart podcast. What's up everybody? It's snacks from the Trapped nerds. And all October long, we're bringing you the horror Boogity, boogity, boogity. We're kicking off this month with some of my best horror games to keep you terrified. Then we'll be talking about our favorite horror and Halloween movies and figuring out why black people always die first. And it's the return of Tony's horror show Side Quests, written and narrated by yours truly. We'll also be doing a full episode reading with commentary, and we'll cap it off with a horror movie battle royale. Open your free Aha Radio app and search Trap Nerds podcast and listen now. Hey, this is Matt Jones and I'm Drew Franklin and this is NFL Cover Zero. We're just here to try to give you an NFL perspective a little bit different. Did you see the Colts pretzel? That was my other big takeaway from that game. What was that? Oh my. We think NFL coverage should be informative and entertaining. 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For complete details, how to enter prizes and official rules, visit toyotasgamedaygiveaways.com you are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Oh, we got a busy day coming up today. And tonight we got baseball, we got football. The voice of Amazon Prime, Al Michaels will stop by the hall of Fame writer Peter King. Peter King likes overtime in the NFL. Pete will tell you why a little bit later on. He likes ties in the NFL. 8773 DP Show Email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @dpshow Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, download the app if you haven't done so. If you'd like to watch the program. And we say good morning to our radio affiliates around the country. We're in over 400 cities. We had baseball yesterday afternoon and last night, Guardians and the Tigers. That series tied to game of peace. Padres, Cubs, that's tied at a game of peace. The Yankees beat the Red Sox. Tied it a game of peace. The Dodgers move on. They'll face the Phillies with Shohei Ohtani going in game one. The Dodgers bounce the Reds eight to four. More on that coming up. The three playoff games. The winner go home later on today. And tonight, the Niners and the Rams. No Brock Purdy. Really. They're down a couple of wide receivers as well. And the Niners, a wounded animal. They are getting eight and a half. Speaking of gambling, Dylan is in for Fritzi. Fritzi taking the day off due to religious reasons. And Dylan, part of our gambling podcast, sitting in the chair, taking over the responsibilities. Dylan, good to have you. Thank you, Dan. We actually have a wounded animal parlay for later in the show. Would you explain what a wounded animal parlay is? Yes. The 49ers being the wounded animal. Okay, we're kind of digging into the depths of the depth chart. Going to pull out some hopeful winners. Now. What does that mean, the wounded animal that you're looking for? Individual bets with the Niners. The whole team's pretty wound, pretty wounded. So it can be kind of anything 49ers related. All right, we'll have that for you coming up, by the way, the gambling podcast available late later on today after the show with Dylan with Shay and Irving and also Bad Larry, who is back from his European vacation. Poll question Play of the day Stat of the day. So Dylan's in, Seaton's here, Marvin's and also Paulie's in as well in yours truly. Poll question coming up. 877,3DP. Show operator Tyler sitting by. He'll take your phone call. Stat of the Day is always brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of the show. First hour brought to you by Simply Safe. Typical security systems react. Simply Safe is proactive. You can get 50 off your new system. Go to simply safedan.com There is no safe like Simply Safe. I'm watching yesterday, I'm watching last night. I'm fascinated by Mason Miller. He, he is the Padres closer and when he's on the mound, he's bringing three digits. It's a hundred miles an hour. Fifteen total pitches were 100 or more miles per hour by the Padres versus the Cubs yesterday. Eleven of the 15 were by Mason Miller, seven in the seventh inning, four in the eighth inning, four by Robert Suarez, all in the ninth inning. They're just bringing in 104.5 on the FM dial. I mean, it's impressive. And if you wonder why they have a, you know, they're going to be a pitch count because there are more guys throwing, you know, more than 100 miles an hour now. It, I mean, it's jumped up almost 5 miles per hour. That's incredible. We have more on that coming up. But you know, I started to look at just the velocity with the Padres bullpen. They had 15 pitches of over 100 miles an hour. Last time that happened, the Yankees game three of the ALDS, when they had 28 of those pitches. And with Miller, Miller's face, nine batters, eight strikeouts and he hit somebody. Sixteen of his 40 pitches are 100 miles an hour or greater. Now, it used to be that you would have a couple of guys who threw hard. I go back to Bob Feller, I go back to Nolan Ryan. And Nolan Ryan, you know, the jugs gun, he probably threw 100, 405 miles per hour. But there is a difference. And I remember we've asked pitchers before, what's, what's the difference between 96 and 100? And hitters will tell you there is a big difference with that. But everything is the speed and how often I see that. And that's where you'll see guys get Locked in, They'll say, throw me that fastball, I'll hit that. I'll eventually catch up to that breaking ball. That's different. Breaking ball will withstand the test of time. Fastball, they can turn on it because they'll see it. You see 100 mile an hour fastball more often. It used to be you'd be like, oh my gosh, I don't see anybody throwing like that now. It's commonplace now. Everybody's built that way. You're encouraged to throw as hard as you can for as long as you can. And then they kick you to the curb. Tommy John, surgery, come on down. Somebody else is going to come on in. Fewer innings now it's about you get in, throw as hard as you can, and then we'll bring in somebody else. Throw as hard as you can. I always wondered why pitchers would start out. And I talked to Kurt Schilling about this many years ago. I said, why do you throw harder the longer you're in the game? He said, well, those pitches mean more and I'm loose. Like I'm, you know, you're, you're building up momentum. My nickname in high school was fast but won't last. And that had to do with pitching as well. Baseball related. Yes, it is. And I could throw really hard, but I couldn't throw, you know, for a long period of time. It'd be like seven pitches. Be like, man, that guy, you know, he can throw hard. And then all of a sudden I have a noodle arm. After that, these guys come in, they know I got about 15 or 20 pitches. That's how, how long I can go. And then you'll bring in the next guy. So starting pitching used to be you were going six or seven inning. Announcers are shocked. Like Yamamoto. He came back for another inning and the announcers were like, oh, he's coming back. It's a sixth inning. But it's just different now. The days of finesse feels like long gone. But you still have that breaking ball. That breaking ball is the great equalizer, in my opinion. And you see that with these guys. You can have a fastball, but you better have a breaking ball, something off speed, because if not, they lock in. And that's where you go. That's 104 mile an hour fastball. And he took it deep. They can, they're geared for that. Even these pitching machines. When we were at the super bowl and we were at the Giants facility in Scottsdale and we asked them, they had the jugs gun down below the Stadium. And we went down there to take BP one day and I said, can you make that throw like Clayton Kershaw curveball? And they said, yes. Like they. They've gotten it so that it's not just they're throwing fastballs. They can throw off speed pitches, they can throw breaking balls, they can throw sliders. That's what amazed me because it's like, even us, you know, with a 85 or 90 mile an hour fastball, you put your bat on it, but if you say, hey, I'm not going to tell you what's coming, and then all of a sudden, you know, you're up there and your legs give out, that's. That's what's still. That's why Clayton Kershaw can still pitch the way he pitches, because he has that breaking ball now. You have to keep him honest with a fastball that is at least in the 90s. But now, and you're watching these guys, like, I would too. Paulie, text me to say Mason Miller's coming in. I went over to watch the game, and he looks the part of a guy who throws 104 miles an hour. He looks like he could be, you know, a linebacker. But that's baseball now. And you saw that yesterday and last night. These guys throw hard for as long as they can. Yes, Marvin. Remember when Tim. Tim Lince came on the scene and everyone was like, man, he's so slight. How is he going to be able to last that long? Because all these guys, just like you said, Mason Miller looks like a linebacker. These guys got to be big also. Well, you still get that guy that defies logic, where you go, how does that guy throw that hard? And there are certain guys, like Pedro Martinez, to me, is one of the most fascinating pitchers of all time, one of the greatest pitchers of all time, one of the most underrated pitchers of all time. Because if you meet him, he's slight, but he had that ability. He was able to make that ball move, but he also had velocity. Even when you're around Mo Rivera, like, you're standing next to him and I'm going, that guy is the greatest closer of all time. And he doesn't look like he's a baseball player. It's just like, oh, what do you do for a living? You know, I'm a closer for the Yankees. You know, enter Sandman. Oh, okay. But that's the fascination you have with baseball. There's certain guys who can do certain things with the baseball that we can't, but what they're Teaching now is go out there and they've studied. It's physics, it's probably geometry, algebra, math. All that thrown in there. Spin rate, you know, that's why you get that. You want a little bit of tackiness on the ball, so you get that spin rate there. Pitchers would complain about that early in the year, but it's fascinating to watch. It really is. Yeah. Paulie, that's what I'm curious about. Is it the natural human development, or is it things like less innings so you could throw harder more often? Better medical advice, better workout routines? Because in 2002, the average fastball in Major League Baseball was 89 miles per hour. Now it's 94. It's gone up five miles an hour in less than a generation. Does that mean it's going to keep going that way? It's hard to know. I would have to talk to somebody who is in physiology or smart people. Yes. Yeah. See if you can get somebody at Yale who can join us this morning. Will do. All right. Seaton? Yeah. I think a lot of it is just how good we've gotten at breaking down the mechanics rather than. Than anything else. You have such slow motion, you know, and graphics and technology and all of this stuff that you're able to understand. If you're pushing off at the right angle, you're doing all of these different things, and the leverage that your body creates or the torque that it creates to. To throw the ball, I think. I think we've gotten so good at just figuring that part of it out. I don't know how much better you can get at it, but I think that's a big part of it. When we go to spring training, or I used to go to spring training, I always love to see what pitchers were doing because, you know, hitting hasn't really changed other than, you know, you're swinging up on the ball. You know, you're trying to launch the ball. Launch angle is the big one. But with pitchers, there's always these different kind of routines, exercises. They were doing, like, they would take a towel and then they would, you know, have the pitching motion, and they were just, you know, holding onto a towel, snapping the towel. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, wow, okay. But you're seeing all of these different things, and it goes back to Mark Pryor when he was with the Cubs. Like, these are things that guys have been doing. And Tom House, who's a former reliever with the Braves. He's a pitching coach, but he's also helped Tom Brady. He helps a Lot of these quarterbacks and how you throw the football, you know, how you torque all those things. And teaching a lot of this modern philosophy, it's. It's like the golf swing. When you look and somebody is hitting the ball less than 300 yards, we go, man, what's wrong with him? Okay, now it's, you know, DeChambeau hit at 372, and we go, did he get all of it, Rory? Some of these other guys, we're shocked when somebody doesn't hit at 300 yards. But that's technology. But that's also understanding. They're using the ground. Now, it starts from the ground up. It's not how fast you can swing your arms or how fast you move your hips. You know, you look at John Rahm, it doesn't even look like he's finishing his backswing. They've studied this. It is a science. It's not. Boy, he's just naturally gifted. Rory's naturally gifted. So is Tiger. But they did understand, how do I get more distance? How do I get. And how do I compress the ball? The accuracy, all of those things. That's what they're doing with every sport. It can be kicking a soccer ball, kicking a football, in fact. Speaking of which, Vic Fangio, Dick Fangio, was talking about kickers, and he compared them to the steroid era in baseball. Have that for you coming up. Also, Sean Payton is facing the Eagles this weekend. He defends the Tush Push. We'll have that for you coming up. We got a lot of things to get to today. Your phone call is always welcome. We'll settle on a poll question. We'll discuss that. And the greatest lineups in baseball history, and I'm talking about not hall of Famers lineups that have MVP winners in them. We'll talk about that as well. I think I said in them. I don't think that's a word. I think it's in them. Everyone gets in them. Yeah, Adam, in them. All right, we'll take a break. We're back after this Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9:00am Eastern, 6:00am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app. Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. Join me every weekday morning on my podcast, Straight fire with Jason McIntyre. This isn't your typical sports pod, pushing the same tired narratives down your throat every day. 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If we will see a time where the average miles per hour of a pitch is at 99, sort of go along with Paul's thought about if it went from 89 to 94. Theoretically. Right. Following the logic of what you're just talking about, in the next 25 years, the average pitch will be 99 miles an hour. And how many is that 25 years from now? Or is it longer than that? Let's say every generation it went up 3 miles per hour. We're going to be on this earth for a long, long time. Like, when was the average pitch 89 miles an hour? 25 years ago, 2000. Okay, so 25 years from now, it'll be 99 miles per hour. Right. And would the max speed go from 101 to 105 now to 109, 110 in 2050? I'd have to have started somebody who studied, you know, physiology or kinesiology or whatever it might be, because it's like the 100 meter dash. How much better can you improve upon that time? And how long is Usain Bolt had that number? Like, we're not close to that number yet. I don't. Can. Can you get to 9, 4, 93 and 100 meter dash at some point? Yeah. Paulie. Or was Usain Bolt an anomaly because Most sprinters are 6:2 or under Usain Bolt by being 6:5. I'm no physicist, but I've read some stuff about this. His stride was longer, so every step he took was 2 inches longer than the guy next to him at the same rate of leg speed. So that means he finishes two meters ahead. Is he the. Like. He's a Standalone. Yeah, yeah. See, we could also put up there. We got two here from Paul. Which is worse. Ties in sports are having to wear a tie. Great question. A fair point. We wore one in high school. I've spent half my life wearing a tie. If you wear an unbelievable, like a banger tie, then it's a great feeling. I kept all of the ties that when I handed out the super bowl trophies, I. I have them in here and you feel, you feel pretty good when you're out there and you go, all right, this good color combination. But, you know, wearing a tie, I would wait to the very, very last minute when I did SportsCenter and I got, all right, I'm gonna put on the tie. And then on the way back over after doing SportsCenter, you'd have that tie off. But I remember when I was little, I had a clip on tie. Even then I was like, I had to go to church every morning, then have to have a clip on tie. And I always thought if you went to church, you always had to have a tie on. And then my mom eventually said, you don't have to wear a tie all the time. And I said, oh, okay. I think she was trying to see if I would like going to church a little more if I didn't have to wear a tie that didn't work. Yeah. Paulie, on Sports center, when you took your tie off, was it all off or did you just slide it off and keep it tied and hang it up? I don't really remember. Come on. No, I think I just loosened it a little bit. And then depending on who was watching, I would slide it off gently just right. So if Carl ravages around. Yeah, like, hey, Carl, check this out. Carl would go, hey, slower. Yeah. I go, all right, Ravi, I'll tie it again. Yeah. Double Windsor. I used to work at a clothing store in high school, so I learned the proper way to tie a tie with the big dimple in the middle. The proper way to do the pocket square to make it blouse out. Okay, look where it got me. Yeah. Yes, Dylan. Can anyone here tie a bow tie? I think I can. I don't like the way it looks fair, but it like, it looks like I've been wearing the tie at the reception for five hours when I put it on. So it kind of looks like, ah, you had a good time. I haven't even started yet, actually tried really hard on this. Yeah, the clip on. The clip ons for those, I think still work. Those play like the one that just clips on the neck and it's already tied. Yeah, yeah, I'm fine with that. Yeah, I have no shame because people will ask you, do you tie that? I go, no, I just clip it on here. I'm going to work that hard. All right. So Sean Payton and the Broncos had the Eagles coming up this weekend and Sean Payton was asked about the Tush push. Yeah, listen, I, I was one that stood up in favor of. The reason I stood up in favor of is the powers to be. Don't want it for aesthetic reasons or competitive reason, you know, or it's hard to officiate, etc. But I've been involved in those meetings for a long time and when all of a sudden health and safety was pulled into that which, which might be the safest play in football, my bull nose kind of went up. Look at the quarterback sneak and I think credit Philadelphia. I'm one that looks at it, you know, as long as the line of scrimmage is clean, it's a well run quarterback sneak. And, and when you really evaluate it, it's more the technique of the sneak than the push. Those are strong comments for a guy who's going against the Tush push. And, and we've talked about that ad nauseam that I, I have no problem with it. You guys asked for it, you allowed it, now it's here and now people have a problem with it. Get your votes together and then get rid of it if you want to. But I promise you, with that quarterback and that offensive line, they're still going to be extremely successful. Now, Vic Fangio is the defensive coordinator of the Eagles and he was talking about just how good kickers are and he brought in an interesting comparison. You know what you guys have missed, not just you, but everybody is. You know, we gave up a 65 yard field goal and a 58 yard field goal. These kicking balls that they changed this year have drastically changed the kicking game, field goals particular. So it's almost like they need an asterisk here. Like it was the live ball error or the asterisk for those home runs bonds and Sosa McGuire were hitting. You know, the way they've changed the ball has drastically changed the field goals. Is the shape different? No. In years past, the officials would rub them down or other people would rub them down and you play with them now. Now the balls are in house all week and they kick those balls that they've had and nobody else touches them, which I don't have a problem with. If you're the one using the ball and then your kicker gets to you. It goes back to what I've said about the quarterback. If you wanted a certain way, if you want it a little softer like Tom Brady did, or a little bit harder, firmer, like Aaron Rodgers did, you're the one that's, you know, holding it, throwing it. And if your receivers are fine catching it or running backs are fine with running, then I'm fine with that. You're not. I don't think you're doing anything in a nefarious way like Brady did. Brady lied about it. But, you know, the fact that Aaron Rodgers, Aaron Rodgers said, I inflate it more than it needs to be. And no one said a word, no headlines whatsoever. Tom was deflate. Like the inflator doesn't sound as bad as the deflator. But Aaron Rodgers said, I wanted it to be firmer. Brady, you know, wanted to do it a little bit less than that. But as far as these balls that are now, I never understood this as well. When I played high school basketball, they would give you a brand new basketball to start the game. And I'm thinking, why, why not give you a basketball that you've been using? Home team, home team, pick the basketball. Do we want it? Is the, the aesthetics of that's a brand new basketball. And it'd be slick. And, you know, and, and by the way, high school players should have been using an NBA ball because thicker seams allows you to be able to shoot better. I never understood that they gave you a brand new basketball. So same thing with the football. And those footballs look worn, weathered. They look like they're, you know, they've been broken in. Yes, Marvin. Yeah. In college football, the teams have their own balls, right? So say if it's army versus Wake Forest. There's people on the sidelines. Army, here's your ball. Wake Forest, here's your ball. There's a bunch of ball boys that have balls that are as the army logo, as the Wake Forest logo. So they use their own ball. So I don't understand why it can't be the same in the NFL. It's that now all of a sudden it's the kickers are ruining the game. All they're doing is kicking. They've gotten better, they've gotten stronger. And it goes back to the analytics, it's gotten back to geometry, and it's gotten back to how do I strengthen my leg? Okay. And, you know, how do we block? If you're kicking a 65 yard field goal, well, that ball is going to Be lower. You got to make sure you do your job differently up front, so. But we're seeing more kicks are blocked while more kicks are blocked. It feels like because now we have longer kicks, we have no problem. Like when the ball goes out to the 35 yard line, you're thinking we get two first downs, we're in field goal range. It didn't used to be that way. It was like, man, that's 50 yards. And then all of a sudden it's 60 yards and then Tom Dempsey and then it's 63 yards and you're thinking, these guys can kick 70 yards. I think somebody's kicking a 70 yard field goal this year. But they do it. You watch them when they practice. Now, there's no rush, there's no pressure, but these guys have the leg to get it that far. Yeah, Paulie. And conditioning has to be in play. If you look at the average kicker just eyeballing it, they kind of look like football players now. And back in the 80s, the kicker would stand out, he'd have a gut or, you know, he would just be. He was there just to kick and never do anything else. And it didn't seem like they worked out at all. You know, Seaton. I think the thing that's going to be tough for that is kick kicking the ball that far is how low the ball is when it comes off your foot getting over the line. That it's easier to. The longer the field goal is, the lower that trajectory is and it's easier to block. And I think that's probably going to be the biggest problem and probably why you can see them kick 70 yards in practice, but not in a game because you could just. It's going to hit off somebody's head. Yeah. Unless it's the last play of a game, maybe, you know, even the last play of a half, you run that risk of somebody blocking it and running it back. But those are the times when somebody's going to be attempting a 70 yard field goal. I think that that's. It's inevitable that somebody will get that opportunity. Yeah, Paul, if you want to compare it to the three pointer in basketball, it's apples and oranges. But let's say kicking becomes too easy. Deep kicks become too easy. The way to de. Emphasize it. Good idea, bad idea. If you made a field goal worth two points now it's a. There's less high end of that play, there's less upside of that play and you're more likely to go for it and try to get seven Points. I don't know if that's ever a thing down the road, but it could be. Yeah, but I don't. I don't believe in penalizing people for being really good at what they're supposed to be really good at. Like, imagine you go, you know, that guy's unbelievable. Yeah. We got to do something about it. Tiger could talk about that. Yeah, that's not fair, Tiger, you're hitting the ball too well. They were. Yeah, let's Tiger proof this. Let's rearrange thousands of trees, dig them up, and plant them somewhere else or something so that then it's easier to. Or harder. Yeah. Dylan, in that vein of changing the field goal points, don't you think a safety should be more than two points? Make it four. I haven't. I haven't thought about it. Take one point from the field goal, give it to the safety. I would love. Field goals can only take place 50 yards or further. Oh, I love that. That's it. 50 yards or further. Other than that, you go for it. You got to go for it, or you punt. But if you're going for a field goal, it has to be 50 yards or more. Yes, Paul. I think I threw out a rule 10 years ago to de emphasize kickers. A starting position player had to handle all your punting and kicking. And can you imagine the difference? Like, every team has to have someone on the roster who plays right guard and can punt. What about you get. The opposition gets to pick who they want to. Yes, Marvin, I feel that way about punting. If it's 4th and under 5 yards, you got to go for it. Okay? Let's just get rid of it. These are fun ideas. Yeah. I mean, punters have gotten really good, too, but it always seems like the average is around 45.7 yards. You know, when somebody says, oh, man, he's first team All Pro, 45.7 yards or something. All right, a couple of phone calls in there. We will talk about the greatest lineups in baseball history. And I'm talking about lineups like the Dodgers. They have Ohtani. They have Freddie Freeman. They have Mookie having MVPs in the lineup. How many teams have that luxury? And that's 1, 2, 3 in the lineup, which is crazy to think about. And Mookie bets with four hits as the Dodgers advance. Andrew and Sarasota. Hi, Andrew. What's on your mind today? Adp. Hey, Dennis, just a quick question for you. Big Bills fan, big Yankees fan. I got a couple of kids wondering how you guys went about kind of instilling the value of loving sports and maybe the teams you guys root for, but kind of letting them go their own way and make their own decisions about that, too. Well, it's different for me. And thanks for the phone call. It's a great topic. I had already kind of relinquished my fandom when I got to SportsCenter. So that was 1989, and I didn't start having kids until a few years later. And then I said to my son, whoever you want to root for, root for. And he started rooting for the packers and the Red Sox. The Packers. With Favre, the Red Sox hadn't won anything. And he's made, he's stayed loyal to those, those teams. But I didn't guide him one. I did give him a heads up that with the Red Sox, you're probably not winning any time soon, maybe in your lifetime. And he kept saying, didn't matter. He was going to be a Red Sox fan. And he loved the Packers. Yeah, I don't know how the fandom started, but he stayed true to the packers to this day. But, yeah, when you're, if you're a fan of a team that's not very good, do you hand it to your child? Hand it down to your child? You know, we're a, we're a Browns family. Well, you're not going to be a Bengals or a Steeler. You're just not. I don't know if you get a choice there. I think if you're being, if you're being honest, you're probably saying, hey, you know what? He or she's going to go through the same hell that I've gone through. We're going to go through this together. Hey, when we, when we start to win, we are going to win together. Yeah. Paul, I think a lot of kids under 10 years old would pick the team that's dominant right now because it's feel good. I'll bet you there's a lot of Chiefs fans that are young people over the past decade. When I was a kid, of course I'm a Bears fan, but I would see those Steelers dominating. I'm like, man, that looks like a fun team to root for. All they do is win a lot of football games. And I grew up in Zanesville, Ohio, and that was Cleveland Browns territory. And then I moved to Cincinnati later, and the Bengals just came to Cincinnati and I thought, okay, that's my football team. And I asked my dad, I said, can, can I go back to rooting for the Browns? And he said, no, we're Bengals fans. I go, oh my God. So I, I, the only thing that enjoyment I got out of that is I got to go to Bengal. We'd sneak into the Bengals games and I got to see the opposition. I would go to see whoever they were playing. Yes, Marv. Yeah. To Paulie's point, I grew up a 49ers fan because in 1993, 1994, they were really good. Sorry. I didn't want to watch Dave Brown throw to Howard cross with the Giants every single week. Right. So I was like, you know What? I'm a 49ers fan from here on out. Dave Brown, supplemental draft with the Giants, I believe. Nice call. Supplemental Dave Brown, supplemental draft. Who? Well, Bernie Kosar. Was he supplemental draft as well? Maybe because he was in the usfl, they were after him. I think there's been a couple of supplemental. That's like the commissioner's exempt list where you go, I didn't know that existed. And then all of a sudden it's the supplemental draft. Yes. Marvin was Chris Carter supplemental draft also. I'm gonna double check that. Check on that. All right. All right, we'll take a break, settle on our poll question your phone calls. 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Eight of the 15 meetings between the Sox and Yankees this season have been decided by two or less runs, including each of the last four. That's your play of the day. Play of the Day, brought to you by Rapid Radios, the official walkie talkie of the show. Push to talk service. National LTE coverage. No subscriptions ever. You can get them before bad weather occurs. Visit rapidradios.com up to 60% off and free shipping. Anybody else in the supplemental draft? Was Bernie Kosar in the supplemental draft? Yeah, Dan. So the supplemental draft started back in the 70s for players who couldn't be in the draft for some reason, eligibility whatever it may be, and so teams could draft them, but then they lost another draft pick, Bernie Kosar. 1985 by the Browns out of Miami. He graduated early. Smart guy. Brian Bosworth of Oklahoma was a supplemental draft pick. Chris Carter of Ohio State. Bloop, bloop. Marvin. Yes. Suspended before his senior year for signing with an agent. Supplemental draft, couple others. Bobby Humphrey, the running back for the Broncos. Rob Moore, the wide receiver. Jamal Williams, the running back. So Josh Gordon, the wide receiver out of. For the Browns, who was very good a few years back. A lot of supplemental draft. Speaking of the Browns, Kevin Stefanski is the head coach, and he announced that Dylan Gabriel is going to start against the Vikings. From the second he's been here, he's been working very hard. Very intelligent young man. He's. He's done a nice job throughout practice this whole season. He's been learning how to get yourself ready and understand the rhythm of an NFL week and what that looks like as a backup and obviously now feel like he's ready to go in as a starter. Yeah, I was surprised on the road in London against the Vikings, but I don't know. Put him in the. In the deep end of the pool and let's see what he does. And, you know, he has some mobility there, far more than Flacco does, but. Well, I have more mobility, I think, than Joe does, But, you know, by all accounts, Dylan Gabriel has done a very good job. Picked up the offense, and he gets the ball out quickly. And he's not somebody trying to extend plays, which is what you want out of your rookie quarterback. Take what is there, and then when it's not there, live to call another play. Yes. Dylan Gabriel had a pretty good quote, too. I think it was from this week where he said, basically he was like, it's not Joe Flacco's job to teach me how to do this. It's not his job to be a mentor. It's my job to ask questions. Yeah, you know, that's a. It's a pretty good shift in mindset that we don't normally hear. Yes. Paulie. And Dylan Gabriel's played a lot of football. He played six years of college. Three at UCF, two at Oklahoma, one at Oregon. He had 64 college starts. Experienced kid. He's like 24 years old. Yeah. Him and Jaden Daniels, Bo Nicks, I think they had maybe the most starts in college football history, but six years is the max. Yeah, I think after. Come on. Come on. Six years. He had 155 touchdowns in college. That's got to be the record by far. Is it the record by far? I think it has to be because he was a starter for six years. He had the one year at UCF where he got injured. He might be the all time record. He's got more 30 touchdown seasons in college and like the Bears having their history. Yeah, but that's not saying anything. They lay up, still haven't had a 4,000 yard passer. Are they going to get that this year? I think they will with Caleb Williams. So he gets the start against the Minnesota Vikings. That game is in, in London. And I know a lot's been made about Shador Sanders. I, there's nothing to talk about until he, he plays. That's all. This is a clickbait media forest. Rex Ryan, very animated, being critical, you know, it's low hanging fruit. I, I want to be fair to the kid, you know, and I have, you know, people that I talk to and they, they say that he's done a good job. I don't know about him studying or not studying, but I, I, I gotta be fair to what I, how I cover this. Let me wait till he starts again. If there's a reason why he's not playing or he's the third string quarterback or he's not going to be on the roster, okay, then I'd cover that. But the other stuff, you know, does he, he's been the star everywhere he's gone and now you're not a star and that's really hard, especially at that position. He wants attention. He, he wants to be the focal point. He wants to be the star and he's not. And I think that that can sometimes show up in immaturity. Yes, Marvin. And I'm sure it's got to be tough for him because last season he probably thought he was going to be a first round draft pick, top five pick. Right. So it's got to be a very humbling experience. Wait, I'm the third, I'm a fifth round draft pick and now I'm the third string quarterback. Yeah, Dylan. I mean people were like shocked that he didn't get named the starter, but he was the last guy in the depth chart. Like they're just going in order. Yeah, they're trying to make this more than what it is. And look, this is the approach with some shows and some networks, but I got to be fair to the kid and I hope he gets the opportunity. I don't know if he's any good. He, I voted for him third in the Heisman. I thought that much of him when I watched him play. But if he can't Play in the NFL, maybe it's with another team. And you know, at that position, you gotta be mature. You can't be a goofball. Those days are long gone. They're paying you a lot. These guys get a lot of money. You can't be goofball, immature. You know, that's where I hope that he. He reads the room and gets the opportunity to be able to play. Cause that's all you want for any of these guys. Just get a chance to play. Dylan Gabriel is getting a chance to play sooner than I thought. But I do think that he can play. I don't know if he's a franchise quarterback, but I do think that he can play because I saw him play in three different places and he was successful. Yes. Dill, have you noticed that that's kind of the trend now, that it's actually more attractive for a quarterback to play six years in college as opposed to trying to jump early? Because out of any position, the more you can get reps under you, the better. Yeah, but this has to do with COVID and those. Those days are done. You know, the bonus years due to Covid. We won't have this again. Well, hopefully we don't have Covid again. David in Ohio. Hi, David. What's on your mind? Hey, Dan. I got a right tomorrow's headline today, Rams wide Receivers go off. Means no worries unless you try to cover him. Thank you. Okay, a little wordy, but thank you, David. Derek in Wisconsin. Hi, Derek. What's on your mind? Hey, Dan. How you doing? Great. 3, 235. Hey, so it's my birthday today, and in the vein of me being a giving person, I wanted to give back to you. In the NFL, I have solved the overtime rule on how we can make these games go quicker and be more engaging. So if you get the ball and receive it and kick a field goal, the other team just has to go for a touchdown. If you get the ball, score a touchdown and kick an extra point, the team then that receives the ball would have to go down, score a touchdown and go for two. If the first team gets the ball, scores a touchdown and goes for two, game's over. Second team doesn't get to touch it, they're going to make for an awesome game. All right, well, thank you, Derek. I like sudden death. If you get to overtime, all bets are off. You roll the dice and I. It feels like a participatory, you know, situation. Hey, he got it. And now you have to get the ball too. Hey, Josh didn't get to have the ball in overtime, don't go into overtime. 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